1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm Sarah Dowdy and I'm Deblane chokerate boarding. And around 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: this time last year, Katie and I did an episode 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: on the artist michel Angelo. And it's a given that 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: michel Angelo, he's one of the most famous artists in history. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: But according to the art historian Peter sim michel Angelo 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: has been surpassed and at least one head to head competition, 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: um and again at least in terms of what's being 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: written about him. Nobody's looking at the art show, attendance 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: or something here. But that raises the question who is 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: the upstart? Interestingly, it's another michel Angelo, except this one 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: who's named michel Angelo Maurice and he's better known as 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Caravaggio and some who works at the University of Toronto. 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: He has studied books, catalogs and Scott Lili papers about 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the two men published in the last fifty years, everything 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of in that time range. And over time the 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Caravaggio related work did in fact outpaced the writings on Michelangelo, 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: especially since the mid nineties or so. Yeah, so Caravaggio 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: is apparently quite popular right now, and um, if the 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: obsession has been growing for the past fifty years, it's 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: really reached new heights this year and last year, which 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: was the four hundredth anniversary of the artist's death. But 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: so far we've had to art world controversies. This is 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: in the past year too, art world controversies which have 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: played out in really dramatic headline fashion. We're going to 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: just read off a few of these headline counterheadlined selections 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: for you. One is from the BBC Vatican reveals Caravaggio 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: painting found in Rome and then later Vatican paper dismissed 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: his own Caravaggio claims it's a little embarrassing. We have 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: another one from the BBC Church Bones quote belonged to Caravaggio, 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: researchers say, but also unearthing doubts about Caravaggio's remains. Yeah, 33 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about that one a little bit 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: more because obviously it's an exhimission of related point for that. UM. 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: There have also been two big exhibits though on the 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: artists in the past year and this year as well. 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: One was of Caravaggio's art at the Scutieri Quirinale, and 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: the other was of his police trail at the Italian 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: State Archives. And that's really the catch of this episode 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: and probably the appeal of Caravaggio in general. He's not 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: just a compelling figure because he's so masterful an artist, 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: and he's not just compelling because he has this realist 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: style that is well before his time. And he's not 44 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: just interesting because he almost seems more like a photographer 45 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: than a painter who lived centuries ago. He's he's a 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: really bad guy. He's a bad boy. That's a good 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: way to describe him. And the documents relating to his 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: life are police documents and court documents, legal statements, things 49 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: like that. He did leave quite a paper trail, and 50 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it does not really paint with pretty picture. Yeah, and 51 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: so I guess that new paper Trails will focus on 52 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the most But first we'll go back to the beginning. 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: He was born in fifteen seventy one, and he was 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: the son of an architect and a majordomo for the 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Marquis of Caravaggio. He was apprentice later at age eleven, 56 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: to painter Simone Patrezano in Milan, and it was sometime 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: in his teens when he was sent off to Rome, 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: and that's where he settles into this bohemian underworld. He's 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: really poor and working for painters at that time who 60 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: were less able than him. They're less talented. Yeah, definitely struggling. 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: And these are kind of the lost years as far 62 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: as his record goes, which I guess with Caravaggio that's 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: a good thing, um, But they're not lost years as 64 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: far as his work goes. He painted about forty pieces 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: during this period, including Boy with a Fruit Basket and 66 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: the Young Bacchus. Those are probably two of his most 67 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: famous works. And finally in fift works like that must 68 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: have caught the attention of certain eyes because he sets 69 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: out on his own and he's brought to the attention 70 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: of Cardinal Francesco Damonte, who was a big shot in 71 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: the papal court. So this is his inn into the 72 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: more elite world of Rome, and he's soon invited to 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: live at the cardinals palace and uh, he's got room 74 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: and board and all these commissions, and by fifteven he 75 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: has a commission to decorate the Contrally Chapel in Rome, 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: which really puts him into the big league. He's only 77 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty four years old, so he put in his his 78 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: difficult years early. Yeah, and it's not a really totally 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: smooth road all the way though. His work for the Chapel, 80 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: which included scenes from the life of St. Matthew, they 81 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: cost quite a stir at the time, and it's because 82 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: these scenes he painted, they weren't idealized in any way. 83 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Matthew basically looks like a laborer off the street, a 84 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: common person, not a very pretty saint. Yeah. And from 85 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: there on out though, he does stick with these religious 86 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: subjects though that's mostly what he's working on. But um, 87 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like you mentioned, the Matthew thing gives a 88 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: pretty good foreshadowing of this. His his work isn't pretty, 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: it's violent, and it's dark. Stylistically, he supposedly would use 90 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: a lantern hung in a dark studio to achieve this 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: really dramatic lighting effect. I mean, if you've I'm guessing 92 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: probably most of you if you're listening to this episode, 93 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: you've seen Caravaggio paintings, but they often look like a 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: photo where there's a big, strong beam of light shining 95 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: on the subject from one direction. Um. And another thing 96 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: he would do is pick poor models, so maybe St. 97 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Matthew was right off the street. Um. He would use 98 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: laborers and and just people he ran into, perhaps even prostitutes, 99 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: which obviously it's gonna sometimes caused some trouble for him, 100 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: and sometimes his work was consequently rejected by its original commissioner. Yeah. 101 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: The Caramel Lites, for example, thought that his death of 102 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: the Virgin looked a little too common and also a 103 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: little too dead. Yeah. They didn't want her to look 104 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: like a normal woman who had just died. They wanted 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: her to be shooting straight up to heaven. And this 106 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: kind of rejection, though, didn't really hurt Caravato's reputation. You 107 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: would think that that having your commissions rejected would be 108 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: a bad thing, but private buyers were very eager to 109 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: snatch up the rejected pieces, and his success really continued 110 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: to grow. He was moving and mingling in the highest 111 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: circles of Roman society, hanging out with cardinals, hanging out 112 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: with princes. So it seemed like he had risen above 113 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: that rough and tumble bohemian life that he started out in. Yeah, 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: but he never really totally left that hard knock life 115 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: behind either. It said that he was given to wrath 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: and riot, and probably the best way to understand him 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: might be to first look up some images of his 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: art and then take a look at his police record, 119 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: which we're going to get into a little bit right now, 120 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: is pretty ridiculous. Yeah, it's kind of crazy actually. May fourth, 121 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: for example, he's arrested for carrying a sword without a 122 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: permit between two and three am. November nineteen six hundred, 123 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: he's sued over beating a man with a stick and 124 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: cutting the guy's cape with his sword at a three 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: am brawl. Then October two, sixteen oh one, he's accused 126 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: of attacking a man with a sword and insulting him, 127 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: adding insult to injury. April sixteen o four, he was 128 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: accused of attacking a waiter over an artichoke related dispute, which, 129 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: because I kind of love that one so much, we're 130 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: going to talk about it a little more in a 131 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: second October nineteenth, sixteen o four, arrested for pelting policemen 132 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: with stones. That's never good. May sixteen o five, he's 133 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: arrested for carrying a sword and a dagger to this 134 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: time without a permit. July sixteen oh five, he's accused 135 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: by a Vatican Notary of striking him with a weapon 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: from behind. So pretty good idea of the kind of 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: shenanigans that Caravaggio was up to. And um the documents 138 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: on view of the archives actually give us a closer 139 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: look at some of these incidents. I mentioned the artichoke one. 140 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: We have the waiters statement, which it'll let you know 141 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: that a lot is based on tone. And it's kind 142 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: of hard to tell here what exactly happened, but here 143 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: it goes. About seventeen o'clock lunchtime, the accused, together with 144 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: two other people, was eating in the Moor's restaurant where 145 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I work as a waiter. I brought them eight cooked artichokes, 146 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: four cooked in butter and four fried in oil. The 147 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: accused asked me which were cooked in butter and which 148 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: fried in oil, and I told him to smell them, 149 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: which would easily enable him to tell the difference. That's 150 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: where tone is important. He got angry and without saying 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: anything more, grabbed an earthenware dish and hit me on 152 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: the cheek at the level of my mustache, injuring me slightly. 153 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: And then he got up and grabbed his friend's sword, 154 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: which was lying on the table, intending perhaps to strike 155 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: me with it, but I got up and came here 156 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to the police station to make a formal complaint. So 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: you know a guy who's who's easy to anger, I 158 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: guess yeah. He seemed to get riled up pretty easily. 159 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 1: He was even accused of throwing stones at his landlady's 160 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: window after she sued him for cutting holes in the 161 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: ceiling to make his painting. That's the best part. So 162 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is obnoxious behavior, violent, um, 163 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: potentially lethal behavior, and carrying illegal swords around is not 164 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: a good way to stay out of trouble. But he 165 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: reached a new level May sixteen or six when he 166 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: killed a man. He can't really take that back. And um, 167 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the circumstances behind this murder are kind of interesting. Uh. 168 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: The deceased was Rernuccio Toomassini, and he was murder on 169 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: a tennis court in Rome, And so you've probably heard 170 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: that because the location was a tennis court, the dispute 171 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: was somehow related to a game of tennis, or some 172 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: historians have suggested that it was related to a dispute 173 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: over a woman. But either way, something that happened in 174 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: the heat of the moment um, you just let your 175 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: passions get to you and get into a fight, and 176 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: then Renuccio is suddenly dead. But court documents from the 177 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: time show that it really looked a lot more like 178 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: an organized war, not just this argument that started suddenly. Right. 179 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: For one thing, it's not exactly a tennis court where 180 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: this happens. It's a Palacorta court in the Campo Marzio area, 181 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: which was Caravaggio's neighborhood. Paul Acorta is kind of like tennis, 182 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: except there's somehow string involved. We're not really sure how 183 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: it works. Like an explanation of Palacorta for any still 184 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: practicing sport enthusiasts. Yes, email us. The other thing was 185 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: there were eight men who participate hated in this fight, 186 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: and they were chosen ahead of time. They weren't just 187 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: random onlookers. So, as you said, it wasn't just in 188 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the heat of them homet It wasn't people who got 189 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: mad about something that happened to a game and decided 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: to become part of this. It was planned. Yeah, and 191 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Caravaggio himself was there with three other guys. One was 192 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: a captain in the Papal Army again showing he does 193 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: have friends in high places. And one of his friends 194 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: was also badly injured and arrested after the fact. And 195 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: it's during this guy's trial where it comes out that 196 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: the fight was probably started over a gambling debt, so 197 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: something that they could mull over for a little while 198 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: and get their friends together. But Caravaggio is injured in this, 199 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: but he escapes. He's not injured bad enough that he's arrested. 200 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: He gets out of Rome. He's terribly concerned about what 201 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,479 Speaker 1: will happen to him, and rightly so, because he's condemned 202 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: to death in absentia by Pope Paul the fifth. So 203 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: the first place he goes is to the estate of 204 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,239 Speaker 1: the marquis of Caravaggio's relative so Um, a friend of 205 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: his dad's friend. Essentially, from there he goes to Naples 206 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: in early sixteen and seven, and he starts painting again. 207 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: And just remember, throughout his entire flight he's still painting, 208 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: which I think is so interesting. I mean, obviously it's 209 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: partly to make a living, but that you would still 210 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: have it in you when you're running for your life, right, 211 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: and he has to keep moving. He moves on from 212 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Naples to Malta, where he not only keeps painting, but 213 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: he's received into the Order of Malta, which is kind 214 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: of confusing because it's something that requires papal permission. Yeah, 215 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and the Pope has just condemned him to death. I 216 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: think that's interesting. And of course, all the while his 217 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: friends back in Rome were working to get a papal dispensation. 218 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: That's the only way he could be pardoned. But I 219 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: would kind of want those files to be handled in 220 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: reverse order, I think, and and get my life spared 221 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: before I received into the Order of Malta. But either way, 222 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: he's expelled from the Order of Malta not that long after, 223 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: and he's jailed. He escapes from jail and goes to 224 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: Syracuse in Sicily in October sight, and from there he 225 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: goes on to Messina and then to Palermo, all the 226 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: while still working. And it's kind of interesting. Art historians 227 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: have commented on this work because obviously you're going to 228 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: look at at anything done under such for circumstances, but 229 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: apparently he really simplifies things and scales it down, but 230 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: it's still just as skilled and well executed as ever. 231 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: The only way for him. To really get arrest is 232 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: to get the pope's pardon at this point, but Caravaggio 233 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: has friends in high places, like we mentioned, so they've 234 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: been working on this. Seems like a pardon might actually 235 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: be on the horizon. Finally, Caravaggio ends up moving to 236 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Naples again, but when he's there, he's attacked at the 237 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: door of an inn and horribly disfigured on his face, 238 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: and people even get reports that he's dead. By July 239 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: sixteen ten though, he's finally well enough to sail again, 240 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: so he sails for Rome, but he's arrested along the 241 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: way and the boat with all his stuff leaves him 242 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: behind while he's in jail, so he's trying to chase 243 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: down this boat. He gets as far as Porto Ricole, 244 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: where he dies at thirty eight, so he never reaches 245 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: the boat, never gets his pardon while he's alive. He 246 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: is actually pardoned three days later. After three days later, 247 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: so um, yeah, that's that's sad to say the least, 248 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's interesting though, but the circumstances around his death 249 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: are appropriately controversial too. He's often believed to have died 250 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: alone on the beach, which is terribly depressing and probably 251 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: seems plausible, right, But his first biographer, Giovanni Biony, sort 252 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: of made things even worse. He painted a picture um 253 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: saying quote, finally having arrived in a place on the beach, 254 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: he was put in bed with a high fever and 255 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: having no human help. Within a few days he died 256 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: as miserably as he had lived. I think that makes 257 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: it worth It makes it seem like, not only does 258 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: he die alone on the beach, somebody puts him in 259 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: bed and then leaves him and then abandons him. Then 260 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: he dies alone, definitely taking it up a notch. But 261 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: his death was really not quite that dramatic. Records from 262 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: the Archives exhibit show that Caravaggio was found delirious on 263 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: the beach, but then he was taken to the hospital 264 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: and he died there two days later, presumably not entirely 265 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: abandoned by everyone at the hospital. Um. It's still unclear 266 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: though what killed him, right, Maybe it was malaria, could 267 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: have been not maybe the Knights of Malta, or maybe 268 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: even the pope. I mean, during his successful, the very 269 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: stressful career on the run, he was kind of afraid 270 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: that Papal hitman were after him. Yeah, it was a 271 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: concern of Caravaggios at least, But we also have to 272 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: address those bones that were supposedly Carrathaggios and identified as 273 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: his last summer um. First of all, though, why would 274 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: this even be an issue here? You know, presumably an 275 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: artist is famous as Caravaccio would have a monument and 276 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: a marker set up immediately after his death. But even 277 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: though it's pretty hard to believe, after Caravaccio's death, he 278 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: faded into obscurity almost immediately. I mean, he had an 279 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: influence on later artists, but people pretty much forgot who 280 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: he was until he had this big resurgence at the 281 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: beginning of the twentieth century. So that's why we knew 282 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: he definitely died in Porto Coole, but we didn't know 283 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: exactly where he was in Silvio Vincetti, who is the 284 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: president of a private organization that seems to go around 285 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: and I d the remains of illustrious deceased Italians, which 286 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: as Dante announced that his team had identified bones of 287 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Caravaggio from the Porto Coole crypt. Yeah, and you may 288 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: be asking how did they do this? So here's a 289 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: little bit about their method. They examined eleton's at the crypt, 290 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: eliminating ones that didn't fit Caravaggio's specs. Basically, they carbon 291 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: dated things down to one skeleton, and then they tested 292 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: that sample against the DNA from families who were named 293 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: MAURICEI or Mauricio from Caravaggio. So they did this basically 294 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: because Carvaggio didn't have any kids of his own, and 295 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: the committee couldn't find his actual descendants, his siblings descendants, 296 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I should say, so they kind of had to take 297 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: their best guests. Yeah, and that's one thing that makes 298 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: people a little uncomfortable with this finding. But the group 299 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: also concluded that the presumed Caravaggio skeleton had suffered from 300 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: lead poisoning, which would would also add up for an 301 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: artist at the time had suffered from syphilis and had 302 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: died from sunstroke. But art historians have been really, really 303 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: skeptical of this claim, to say the least. The New 304 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: York Times article that we mentioned earlier had quote from 305 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: quite a few art historians with varying tone of dismissal, 306 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: but I included one trim Tamaso Montinari of the University 307 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: of Naples, who said, quote in the four hundredth anniversary 308 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: of Caravaggio's death. This committee has concocted a compelling discovery, 309 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: thinking it will attract tourists. It's all very depressing. Yikes. Yeah, 310 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: so're not very confidence inspiring. No, not at all. So 311 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess I'm hoping that we'll find out more in 312 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: the four hundred and first anniversary of Caravaggio's death, because 313 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't like my my exlamations to be depressing in 314 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: up in the air. Yeah, you don't want your exclamations 315 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: to be disproved and almost immediately. No, No, I'd like 316 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: there to be solid evidence behind them. So that about 317 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: wraps it up for this illustrious yet troubled painter. I'm 318 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: sure lots of you, especially those of you who frequently 319 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: request that we cover more art his story, have favorite 320 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Carcaggio stories, or maybe some of you have even gotten 321 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: to go to these exhibits in Rome and you can 322 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: tell us a little more about him. Apparently the art 323 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: exhibit was lit very dramatically, with a dark room with 324 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: spotlights on each canvas, so if you saw that, let 325 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: us know how it was. Sounds interesting, um, and I 326 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: guess that brings us to listener mail. This one's from 327 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: Daniell in Canada, and I'm very sorry if I just 328 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: muspronounced your name, She says, I just finished listening to 329 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: the podcast on seventeenth century Dutch tulip Mania, and it 330 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: made me think of another story about tulips. I live 331 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: not far from Ottawa, which is the capital of Canada 332 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: and located in Ontario, and one of the things that 333 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: Ottawa is known for is their annual Tulip Festival. The 334 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: history of the Tulip Festival is that it started as 335 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: a way of recognizing Canada's role in liberating the Dutch 336 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: during World War Two, and specifically for providing safe harbor 337 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: for the Dutch royal family. The Tulip Festival's website does 338 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: a much better job of explaining this, and she gives 339 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: it to us here. It's www dot Tulip Festival dot 340 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: c a. But essentially, during World War Two, the Canadian 341 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: government temporarily declared a room at the Ottawa Civic Hospital 342 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: to be Dutch territory so that Princess Marguerite could be 343 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: born a Dutch citizen on Dutch soil as a thank 344 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: you the people of the Netherlands and the new Princess's mother, 345 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Princess Juliana, sent many gifts to Canada, including a hundred 346 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: thousand tulip bulbs. The festival is now almost sixty years 347 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: old and it's the largest tulip festival in the world, 348 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: and the tulip is Ottawa's official flower, which, as the 349 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: event site notes, makes Ottawa the tulip capital of North America. 350 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought that was a really sweet story, 351 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: and actually a few people sent it to us. We 352 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: got a similar story from Christina and Toronto and John 353 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: who also told us about a Tulipmania board game, which 354 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: sounds awesome. Um, definitely want to check out. Yeah, I mean, 355 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: I love games about commodity. What if the notities involved 356 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: were tulips? That would be so much fun. Um. I 357 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: just have one more of these Tulip or Holland related 358 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: emails to share, and this one is from Yost. Initially, 359 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: he emailed to let us know that the Kingdom of 360 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: the Netherlands does not consist of the Antilles anymore, since 361 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: they were dissolved on October tenth. And I was really 362 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: shocked to see that information because after doing the most 363 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: of the big research on the tool of episode, I 364 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: looked at to make sure I knew exactly what the 365 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Netherlands were, and I looked on the official website of 366 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions, which apparently is 367 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: not updated yet. I sent them an email after I 368 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: got this this correction, alerting them out of awkward. Yes, 369 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: that's a little awkward to do now that you mention it. 370 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: But he also shared a really interesting story and I 371 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: kind of like it because it has the pronunciation in 372 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: it that no one no one can fault us for 373 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: for mispronouncing. But here it goes. During the German occupation, 374 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: the Allied bombers and accompanying fighters had to fly over 375 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: Holland to reach Germany. As a result, a lot of 376 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: plans were shot down over Dutch ground. If the pilots 377 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: were lucky enough to survive and not get caught by 378 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Germans going to the crash site, they fell into the 379 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: hands of the resistance and were smuggled back to England. Obviously, 380 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: they were disguised as normal Dutch citizens during their transport. 381 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: When German patrols encountered people they felt were not true Dutch, 382 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: they would order them to say, shinkafigan, that's my best approximation. Um, 383 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: this is the name of a Dutch coastal town. For 384 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: non native Dutch speakers, it is almost impossible to make 385 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: the truck sound the way a Dutch would, since it 386 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: is a sound distinguished to our language. If the persons 387 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: would fail the test, Germans knew they were dealing with 388 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: British or Americans, and the proper action was taken. So um. 389 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I listened to a few different pronunciations of this word, 390 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: and the best I can tell, it's sort of a 391 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: combination of the t an s sound from a snake 392 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: in an s h like chicaf andingen. But I don't 393 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: think I would pass this test unfortunately, So it's good 394 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: I was not a pilot flying over Holland in World 395 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: War Two. In many ways, in many ways, but um, yeah, 396 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, I thought that was a really 397 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: interesting story, and thanks for sharing it. Yeah, we love 398 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the sun more. We have an email address that you 399 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: can send them to its history podcast at how stuff 400 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: works dot com. 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