1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. Evidently the five point three liter GM act, 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: the fuel management motor in the six point two liter 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: GM evidently they've got problems to the point that replacement 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: engine assemblies are on restriction. You can only purchase so 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: many the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: They want to know what we can get in terms 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: of a card bear that we can just please plugged 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: in if. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: We use a solar panel, which will just suction cuppers 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: sit on the inside of the dashboard. That solar panel 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: on sunny days will generate enough electricity. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, The Car Doctor. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: the phone and call in. The garage doors. 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: at eight five five hundred and now. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Running. 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Hey, so this is I forgot to take two a 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: minute there, I reset my mouth. I forgot to mention 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: that it's a Father's Day. This is the Father's Day 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: weekend edition of The Car Doctor. And I was thinking 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I should probably tell a dad story, but maybe I'll 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: save that for later on in the hour. I got 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: a dad joke. No, I'm not allowed to do dad 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: jokes my kids? What you are my kids? 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: My kids? 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, do you want to do the joke? My kids 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: have banned me from doing father's jokes dad jokes because 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: they say, they say, I have no sense of humor. 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that. Let's go on with the show. 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a dad joke later. Let's what do 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: you got from me on the phone. Let's go over 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: to Ian in Montreal, by the way, Tom, before we 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: do that. Happy Father's Day, Tom, and back right back 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: at you. 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: It'll be a special one this year because we have 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: a new daughter in law in the family. 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I saw that. I was there, you know, I remember that. 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: You know, By the way, you have to worry me 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: when I have to drive longer than twenty minutes. I 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: want to fill asleep on the way home. Geez, I'm 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: not used to being up until four o'clock in the afternoon. 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long ride for me. That's what 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: about this afternoon? You're gonna fall asleep during the show. No, 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I see, because I'm fixing cars. You know, fixing cars 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: is totally different. I can. My wife will tell you. 49 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: I get home from the shop. It's like I sit 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: in the chair, whoop, I'm out. You know, it's like 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm zoked. But I hear if I hear a car 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: where the flag o wamp wamp womp out in front 53 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: of the house. I'm up and I'm out changing anyway, 54 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: let's let's go to Ian in Montreal. Ian. Welcome back 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: to the car. Doctor, sir, how can I help you today? 56 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, hi, Ron, thanks for taking my call. So the 57 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: car is a two thousand and seven Pontiac Torrents about 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: eighty five thousand miles. We've had it since New Okay 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 4: last month. Last month I changed the wheel bearings and 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: breaks on all four quarters, discs, pads, Mevo tech bearings. 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't get done nothing offshore. Everything was 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: name brand car for about three weeks. We drove quiet 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: and smooth. Last couple of weeks and we took a 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 4: trip to Toronto two weeks ago, which was about eight 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: hundred miles back and forth, and started to get a 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: loud wheel bearing sounding noise coming into the cabin. But 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: we could feel it on our feet, we could feel 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: it in the floorboards. So carran okay, we got home fine. 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: I checked it out the next day doing the lift, 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: one wheel, one wheel on the ground, thing, listening for noise. 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: Maybe I had a bad bearing like you said, yeah, 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: never ever worked. And the wheel bearings were fine, the 73 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: brakes were fine. Now there's a bearing on the right 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: right side axle is a support bearing. It's called the 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: intermediate shaft. Now that's about the only thing that I 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: could see that could be going bad. 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Isn't this isn't this? Is this an all wheel drive. 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: In it's no, sir, front wheel drive? 79 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh, front wheel drive? Okay, okay, yeah, because if this 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: was all we'll drive, I would think more in terms 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: of do we have a bed center support bearing? So okay, well, 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Do you have the option 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: of putting this up in the air and letting letting? Well, 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: you can't, right, you can't spend Now did you change 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: the rear bearings? 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: No? 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: You did not? Or you did? 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: Yes? I did. I changed all four bearings. The noises 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: from the front, we're feeling it in the floor in 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 4: the front under our feet. 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Okay, if you if you drive this on the lift, 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: do you still hear the noise? I? 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: Yes, we had it in the air. The noise is 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: not coming from the outboard side of the car. It's 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: coming from the center of the car. 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: All right. 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 4: Now the transmission, the transmission is basically right in front 98 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: of the driver. That's why you have this interm. Get 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: one foot shaft with a bearing on it, and there's 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: a support bracket and then it goes to the CV axle. 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: If you hold, if you had on the right front 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: wheel so it doesn't turn, do you still get the noise? 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Right? 104 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: No? 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: No, because when I had the left wheel up and 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: the right wheel on the floor, so now the left 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: wheel is turning free, no noise. 108 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So right then your theory, you know, could 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: it be that? Right now? Can you listen? Can you 110 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: let that right front spin get under the car safely, 111 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: jack stand, support something, et cetera, and listen to that 112 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: bearing with a mechanic stethoscope. 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: I haven't done that yet. However, going slow, you're under 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: twenty miles an hour, it doesn't really do very much. 115 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: When you get up around twenty five thirty miles an hour, 116 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: then that noise gets bad. It's like the whole cars resonating. 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: And then if you go faster than that it actually 118 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: quiets down a bit, but it's still there. 119 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Right. 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to you've got to listen to that 121 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: bearing or as much as you know, it sounds like 122 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: it's in the center. Do you have a bad new 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: right front wheel bearing? You could? 124 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: It's that's that's what I That's what I thought. But 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: when I when I had the when I had the 126 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: right side up, I took the tire off. So now 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm just looking at brakes and bearings and listening, and 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: there was no noise coming from that area. 129 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: How did you listen to it? How did you listen 130 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: to it? 131 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: In just with my ear right next to it. 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: Nah, got to put a stethoscope on it. Do you 133 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: own a mechanic stuff? Do you own a mechanic stethoscope? 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: Uh? No, but I could get on here's the old 135 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: trick with a piece of hose. 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, twenty bucks AutoZone all right, easy? You know, 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: mechanic stethoscopes are cheap. And you look right this way, 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: you look professional. It impresses all the girls, you know, 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: look at that. He's a doctor. 140 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: I married thirty one years. 141 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: My son the doctor. Your wife will go my husband 142 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: the so you know, and it's just it's it's great. 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: It's got a little you know, metal tube bone. It 144 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: lets you pinpoint and you know, you can get very 145 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: precise because then the other thing you can just kind 146 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: of work your way out. This is the you know, 147 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and I realized we're working without a lift, so we're 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: trying to accommodate. But the beauty part is with mechanic stethoscope, 149 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to be right on top of it. 150 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: The probe is about ten inches twelve inches long, and 151 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: you can be a little bit fur away. But you 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: can start at the final drive of the trans and 153 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: work your way over that right side. Listen to the bearing, 154 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: listen to the final drive, listen to that center support. Uh, 155 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, make a determination from there, and you know 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really the best way to go. And listen. 157 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: You're a car guy. This is the second or third 158 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: time you and I have talked. You're gonna be working 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: on cars a long time because either you haven't found 160 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: the mechanic, don't trust the mechanic, or you just enjoy 161 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: working on cars. So to add one more tool to 162 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the toolbox, why not, you. 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I d don't. I have no problem in 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: either there's the wife. We have no problem buying tools. 165 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: Tools are always used, yep. But it's just hard, hard 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: to pin this noise down when you you know, you 167 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: really can't see a failure. I crawled underneath it today 168 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: this morning, and there's like there's no play in the axle. 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: The axle boots are good on both sides. That center bearing, 170 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: it's a support bearing and it's not very big, so 171 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: it almost when when you're running down the road slowly, 172 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: it almost feels it's almost got the same feeling as 173 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: if you were peddling a bike and you can feel 174 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: the individual chain and spra get engaging, you know what 175 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's there. 176 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: It's it feels chunky, so to. 177 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: Speak, exactly exactly exactly. 178 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: You know. 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: The other thing if you want to buy something, and 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they're very expensive nowadays. I think there 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: are one hundred, one hundred and fifty bucks. Is something 182 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: called a thermal imager. It's kind of like it's it's 183 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: a temp gun and you can you can fix things automotive. 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: I listen, I fixed my dryer at home with it 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: because I found the leaking door gasket and it's just 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: it'll take a thermal image and show you different temperatures. 187 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: It would be interesting to see how much that center 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: support bearing heats up as you're as you're running the car, 189 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: and does it get true, does it get too hot? 190 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes that, you know, I find temperature shows me 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: the problem before the problem actually surfaces. You know, we 192 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: can actually have certain engines when we can get clear 193 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: cut pictures of exhaust manifolds, we'll see a different difference 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: in temperature of the exhaust runner for that manifold, and 195 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: we'll know that cylinder's misfiring before the computer tells us, 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: because that sounds watching that cylinder runs. 197 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: I was watching one of the Saturday morning shows, maybe 198 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: it was Phantom Works from a number of years ago, 199 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: and they were diagnosing a modern engine, and that's what 200 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: he brought out. He brought out an I R gun, 201 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: a heat gun, and they were they were finding that 202 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: They found that there were two cylinders that were completely 203 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 4: dead because the header was cold on that's the idea too. 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: We'll see if I can pick one up on Amazon. 205 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: Not too expensive, Yeah, they're not. 206 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: They've come way down in price. You know. We've got 207 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: some fancy Schmancy five six hundred dollars thing from snap 208 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: on it. I've got two. I've got three in the shop. 209 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: I still like the simple one. The snap on one 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: was kind of you know, after a while you start 211 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: buying toys. You know it'll it'll do everything but actually 212 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: help you fix the car. But it looks cool. Uh, 213 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: but you know, a thermal gun may help you in 214 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: this situation too, So all right, kiddo. 215 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: Okay, very good, very good. I'll get I'll get a 216 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: hold of one of those mechanic steps of sculpts and 217 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: then we'll give it another try. 218 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: All right, you need me, I'm here, Ian be well, 219 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Bye bye. 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't get the phone number out enough, but I'm 222 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: always busy. Eight five to five five six zero nine 223 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. The car Doctor's twenty four seven phone number. 224 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're up on Instagram at at 225 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: ron and Enian is my official Instagram title. And no, 226 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: we didn't do the camera yet, so I we're working 227 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: on it. There's some technical difficulties. Actually, Tom won't give 228 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: me access to the studio. He's got me locked up 229 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: because he's afraid of my picture being everywhere. I know 230 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: what the problem is. We couldn't get the bag for 231 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: your head. Well, that's exactly right. We'll be back after this. 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Don't go away where vehicle not taking you where you 233 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: want to go? Well call Ron. He's the expert at 234 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: making your vehicle take you where you need it. Eight 235 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. And 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: now back to Ron. Hey, let's wander over and talk 237 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: to Fred and Virginia. Fred, welcome to the car doctor, Sir, 238 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: how can I help? 239 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 240 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 6: Hi, Ron, thanks for taking my call. We talked a 241 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 6: long time ago. Last year you were giving away tickets 242 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 6: to Pocono. Sure, I was dating about go and we 243 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 6: chatted for a little bit. Out at any rate, here's 244 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 6: my problem. A friend of mine I know real well, 245 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 6: he's got a twenty ten Ford expedition with the big 246 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 6: V eight motor and coming home the other night just 247 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: slowly stop going and lost everything, lost power, motor won't 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 6: turn over. So he figured it's probably a oil pump 249 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 6: that killed oil pressure and ruin the bearing. So he's 250 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 6: got the oil panned down. Took quite a bit. But 251 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: when you go to take off the bearing, caps. There's 252 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: two bolts. I think they're thirteen milimeters. 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, but then hang on a second freight way. So 254 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: when you say it won't turn over, when when he 255 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: turns the key, what happens? 256 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 6: Clank? You here, you're here the starter engage and you 257 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: hear clank. Then he had a denny had a half 258 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 6: inch the longest sock drive. He could get on the 259 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 6: front pulley yanking on it and it wouldn't turn over. 260 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So so we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna agree 261 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: that this is probably a seized engine. Is where is 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: where we're gonna go here? 263 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: Okay, that we're going And we did. We did see 264 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 6: some pieces of crinkled up brass down in the oil pan. Okay, 265 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 6: you got that? 266 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Okay, how many mileage? How many high mileage on this thread? 267 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Out of curiosity? 268 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 6: I think it's like one fifty seven something like that. 269 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 6: All right, But here's the thing. You take down the 270 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 6: two bolts. He started with the rear main, but right 271 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 6: alongside of them, on the outer edge, there's some kind 272 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 6: of oblong pieces that they're not bolt heads, but they 273 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 6: have to come out or down in order to get 274 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 6: the cap down and we have no idea if it's 275 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 6: a special tool. If they if they're pressed. 276 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: In, why are we trying to take this apart? He's 277 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: not expecting to rebuild it, is he? 278 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, he thought he could. He thought he could 279 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: put in new bearings if it's not spoiled too badly. 280 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's think of it like this at well, regardless 281 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: of mileage, there's metal everywhere in that engine, everywhere, all right, 282 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: So let's see, let's say he went through. Let me 283 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: talk you out of this and save save, save you 284 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: guys a Saturday and Sunday and a couple of weekends 285 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: on your back in the garage, all right. If let's 286 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: let's assume it wiped out bearings and wiped out the crank, right, 287 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: because because you said it to me, you said, you 288 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: guys think it's oil starvation. Right, So you know, somebody 289 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: came along and stopped your heart, no blood flow. What's 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: affected everything. Somebody came along and stopped your oil pump. 291 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: What's affected everything? So what's worn everything? Main bearings are scored, 292 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: cylinder walls are scored, valve trained, cam lobe lifters, et cetera. 293 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Why are we worried about main bearings? Aren't. We shouldn't 294 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: be thinking about an engine. 295 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. But this was the thing. 296 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: It was running fine and. 297 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: Then till it wasn't. It was running fine till it wasn't, 298 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and now it's not. 299 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: Well. 300 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but what I'm saying is he was coming home, 301 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 6: he was doing about forty five miles an hour. Everything 302 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 6: was fine, and then it just slowed down. Motor turned off. 303 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: I don't know how that long it ran without oil, 304 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: you know, I don't think it. I don't think it ran. 305 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: You know, usually you start to hear banging and booming 306 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 6: if bearings start to go or something. Okay, and he 307 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 6: didn't hear any of that. 308 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: So it ran long enough to the point where the 309 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: engine locked up and stopped turning. Right, Yeah, okay, So 310 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: if it ran long enough to the point where the 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: engine stopped turning, what do you think What kind of 312 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: damage do you think it did? 313 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 6: Well, obviously, I'm thinking that it probably scored a bearing 314 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: enough that has seized it up. 315 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: But only a bearing, well, I don't. 316 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 6: Know we'd have He wanted to try and figure out, 317 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 6: you know, what it looked like. But I hear what 318 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: you're saying, and I can. It's not my car. If 319 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 6: it were my car, i'd probably do something different. But 320 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 6: my reason for calling mainly was just to find out 321 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 6: what are those two. 322 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: I'd have to wait, I'd have to see a picture 323 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: because I can't picture it in my head. 324 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 6: Oh all right, okay, because it's weird. It's weird whatever 325 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 6: it is that they're right alongside. They go right out 326 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: to the outer end of the bearing cap and you 327 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 6: can look up in there in the casting of the 328 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 6: block and you can see a groove. Right, you can 329 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: see that whatever it is, it doesn't look like it's threaded. 330 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 6: It almost looks like it's tapered or something. 331 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: He is he ready to put a crank shift in 332 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: this thread? 333 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: Well he could be, yeah, if he if he can 334 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 6: get one at the right place right, and is. 335 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: He ready to do the rest of it? 336 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean he's worked on cars all his life. 337 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean no, no, yeah, listen, no, no, not a 338 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: disparaging word. I'm not saying he can't work on cars. 339 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: I just you know, if we were at the shop, 340 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: I would pay to watch this because it's going to 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: be great entertainment. I've never I've never seen or heard 342 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: anything good come out of my engine stopped from lack 343 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: of oil pressure. And all I wanted to do is 344 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: change the main bearings, because it becomes mains rods, crank, cam, lifters, 345 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: valve train, one hundred and eighty five thousand miles. I 346 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: get it. I you know what, I'm not trying to 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: be a jerk. I'm just I just I'm floored. But 348 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: I guess this still goes on. I you know, I 349 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: think his I think his efforts, frankly, would be better 350 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: spent trying to find a replacement engine and doing that 351 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: than the time he's spending just trying to patch it together. 352 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Somehow this never works. So but all right, carry on, Fred, 353 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: good luck. I wish you guys all the best. Let 354 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: me know how it turns out. But I'll be kind 355 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: of surprised, and I hope I'm wrong, but just be 356 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: aware oil pressure. Loss of oil pressure affects everything. I'm 357 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: running any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right 358 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: after this run back running in the car, doctor. I 359 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: wonder if Fred was talking about crossbolts on that five 360 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: point four Leader Expedition motor. There are crossbolts that come 361 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: in through the signs. I wonder if he was seeing that. 362 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: But still, I just I can't see taking a part 363 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: in any with that many miles on it that suffered 364 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: an oil pressure problem. I'd actually be taking apart the 365 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: top of the motor if find do I find metal 366 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: up in the valve cover area. If I find metal 367 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: up in the valve cover area, then I know it traveled. 368 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Getting metal in the oil pan is easy. Is there 369 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: metal in the top of it? Up around the valve cover? Fred, 370 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: if you're still listening, everybody pull a valve cover if 371 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: there's oil. If there's metal up top, that means metal 372 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: went everywhere, which I kind of suspect it did. And 373 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: I think he's on a I think he's on a 374 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: folly that's going to end in frustration. So but you 375 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: could try that. You know, is there metal up top? 376 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: But I know where it's going to end. Yeah, good luck, 377 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: Billy and Denver. Next up, five SUPERU Legacy Billy, Welcome 378 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can it helps her? 379 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: Hi? Ron? 380 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: Yes, I had an five Legacy GT with a one 381 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 5: seventy four on the clock. Okay, last year I lost 382 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: radio reception and keyless entry at the same time, so 383 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 5: I assume they're related. I replaced the power supply wire 384 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: to the radio, amplify the antenna apple fire and that 385 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: fixed the radio, but didn't help the keyless entry. Okay, 386 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: so I went to the basics, replace the batteries and 387 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: the fobs. Replace the fobs. I've got a couple of 388 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: low end your Make model scanners that will pull B 389 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: codes and U codes, and they didn't pull anything of notes, 390 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 5: So then I started throwing parts. I tried a keyless 391 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 5: entry module after verifying a power ground to that, and 392 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 5: that didn't make any difference. At this point, I'm kind 393 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: of at a loss as to what to do other 394 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 5: than to condemn the body module when I tryd programs 395 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: into it. 396 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: If sorry, go ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say no, 397 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: I listen. I love your approach. I think you're I 398 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: think you're spot on. It's it's kind of the way 399 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: I would have done it. One of my questions would 400 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: have been, you know, will your scan tools you know, 401 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: can you go into different modules? Is it all BED 402 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: do you have ob D two stuff or is it 403 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: your Make model. 404 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: All the above. I can use my scanning tool to 405 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: act rate the door locks, it'll actuate the keyless beep. 406 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 5: So it seems to talk to everything related but get anywhere. 407 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: So the so the keyless entry module is awake. 408 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: I'm not sure about that. I don't know whether that 409 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 5: keyless entry beep is coming out of the keyless entry 410 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: module or out of the body module. 411 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: Okay, what if we disconnect the keyless entry module and 412 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: try and make it beep? 413 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 5: I think I might have tried that. I don't remember 414 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: what the results were ago. 415 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Now you know, is it? 416 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: No, I get it? Is it? You know? I'm just 418 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: wondering if it lost programming? Does something need to be 419 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: programmed here? 420 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: Uh? 421 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: You know the fact that you have to you have 422 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: two remotes tells me, you know, the odds of both 423 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: remotes being bad all of a sudden ever since the 424 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: radio repair that doesn't I don't buy that. And this 425 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: is all I agree factory stuff. Right, there's no aftermark 426 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: at anything here. 427 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: Right. 428 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 5: I did try aftermarket Bob's. It didn't make any difference. 429 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Uh you can uh you know, if you 430 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: have a mechanic that you use and he has a 431 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: tire pressure monitoring tool. Most of the TPM TPMs tools 432 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: in the aftermarket have the ability to read key fobs, 433 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: so you can you know, because all it is, well 434 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: it is a transmitter and it'll just you walk up 435 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: to him a boop, but it'll show you the you know, 436 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: at least if you want to erase that one hundred 437 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: percent because what are the op But I mean, what 438 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: are the odds you've got too bad fobs? It doesn't 439 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: lucky you. 440 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna I'll get a TTMS answer done 441 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 5: next week, so I'll have him check the possib. 442 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: All right, you know they should be able to do that. 443 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: But I wonder if you know, and before you condemn 444 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: the body module, uh, you know, or anything, if we 445 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: unplug the keyless entry module, I just want to see 446 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: the keyless entry modules online, you know, is the keyless 447 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: entry online? And then and then okay, how does it? 448 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: How does its antenna work? So how is it? How 449 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: does it communicate with the key fobs? And I believe 450 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: that integration is done through the body module. But what's 451 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: kind of got me, you know, curious, is why radio 452 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: and key fob together. Because I believe in looking at wiring, 453 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to find the tour related 454 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: except for the fact that the radio I believe reports 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: the body and the keyless entry reports the body. Maybe 456 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: that's the clue. 457 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, circuit diagrams for the less entry system don't show 458 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: anything about an antenna. That don't show wiring into the 459 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: main antenna or anything else, So. 460 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Then that's got to be So then that has to 461 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: be through the keyless entry module itself. That has to 462 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: be where the antenna is located or its reception device. Right, 463 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. So let's do this. 464 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: But it's inside the dashboard, so it's basically inside the car, 465 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: which is a fairy cage. So right, and I didn't 466 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: seem like a receptive. 467 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: Let's do Let's verify the fobs are both good. Okay, 468 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: process of elimination. Verify the fobs are both good. If 469 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: you disconnect the keyless entry module, does the beep go away? 470 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Does it still lock the doors because you said you 471 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: could lock the doors by scan tool? Yes, okay, So 472 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: if we take the keyless entry module out of the 473 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: equation and we can still lock the doors and still 474 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: get the fob to work, or still get the beep 475 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: to work, then I've got to believe the body module 476 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: is good, and I would focus more on the keyless 477 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: entry module. But you said you change that correct, I did, well, 478 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: But does that have to be programmed? 479 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: That's where I'm not clear. 480 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I would I would think I would think it would 481 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: have to learn the system because otherwise, you know what, 482 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: every fob has to be unique, right, You just can't 483 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: walk up and I'll take this one and open the door. 484 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: Right. 485 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's got to be unique to your vehicle. 486 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: So somehow they're learning that there's got to be a learned. 487 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 7: Procedure, registration procedure that you do using the UH the 488 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 7: door lock switch, and it responds and acknowledges the beefs 489 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 7: and all that sounds normal. 490 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: It's it's acting like it's taking them. But I still 491 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 5: don't know if those ideas are stored in the body 492 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: module or in the keyless module. 493 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: So is there a reason? See? And why did why 494 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: did replacing the wire for the radio? Why did the 495 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: radio wire go bad? 496 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 497 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 7: It goes through the lift gate patch boot. 498 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it broke and there's nothing else, but there's. 499 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 5: Two you got, Yeah, you got the UH the antenna. 500 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: The antenna amplifier is in the lift gate. So it's 501 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: got UH signal wire and power wire going through the 502 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: boot okay, Yeah, the signal wire doesn't generally go bad. 503 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 5: It's a it's a flexible coax. It's the power wire. 504 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 4: That goes bad. 505 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: And I replaced that and that fixed the radio. 506 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I'd be curious. I don't buy the antenna wire 507 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: breaking either. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. 508 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Let's process of elimination, Billy, and you call me back 509 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: and I'll have more intro for you. Let me do 510 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: a little research. Send me the VIN on this vehicle, 511 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: all right, Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. Give me the 512 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: seventeen digit VIN and let me run down some wiring 513 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: and look at some wiring during the week and then 514 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: we can talk next weekend or you know, whenever you 515 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: get a chance to go through and do the things 516 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: that good things we're doing. So yeah, all right, kiddo, 517 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. No worries. Always like a challenge, 518 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Always like a challenge, always like something good. 519 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: If not, I think I know this communications guy, he 520 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: works with me. He'll explain it to me. So I 521 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to him. A five five, five 522 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running any of 523 00:26:50,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor will be right back, don't go away. 524 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ronanini and the Car Doctor here at eight 525 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, here 526 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: to take your calls and answer your questions. That's twenty 527 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: four to seven phone number once again, eight five five 528 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero call, leave a 529 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: message and look for us up on social media face Gram, Facebook, 530 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: face Gram, Facebook and Instagram at ronananian as our Instagram 531 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: thing and Ronananie and the Card Doctor obviously on Facebook. 532 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Fred and Virginia eleven Toyota Camri 533 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: with a noise at Idol. Fred. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 534 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: How can I help? 535 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the call Ron your show. 536 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, sirmuch on. 537 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven Camri, two point five one hundred and fifty 538 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: two thousand miles. When it's hot hiding in gear and 539 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: you engage compressor, it just makes this horrible rattling noise, 540 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: went on to describe it, and you could kick it 541 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: out of gear. It's it goes okay. Everything else is fine. 542 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Air conditioning works good, you know, I know they used to. 543 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: There was a provision from when you turn the air 544 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: condition on, it would kick the RPMs up a couple 545 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: hundred or so, but I never see a tack move 546 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: when I turned the air conditioner on. So I had 547 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: a shop look at it, and they really couldn't figure 548 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: it out. But they service to air condition and the 549 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: place to refrigerate. And what do you think? 550 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: So well, I think i'd be curious why the ac 551 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: idol up doesn't work? All right? You know, does does it? 552 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: Or does it? You just can't tell? Well, it should 553 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: bump up something. It's got to compensate something for the load. 554 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: You know. 555 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: The rule of thumbos used to be six by two. 556 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: You'd see its six hundred. You'd see it go up 557 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: two hundred with the AC on and gear, you know, 558 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: just something to compensate for the loads. So i'd want 559 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: to measure that. I'd want to look at that by 560 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: scan tool, all right, if I turned if I turned 561 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the AC on, Let's be scientific about it. Science never 562 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: hurts and math never was. So you know, do we 563 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: see the AC go up? If not, let's let's just 564 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, think about that. Do we have a problem 565 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: with something as simple and basic as a dirty throttle plate? 566 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: Has the throttle plate ever been cleaned? You know, has 567 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: anybody ever done a throttle body service, you know, and 568 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to start, you know, throwing things out 569 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: and talking about maintenance, Fred. But you know, maintenance as 570 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: as they age, like human beings, as we age, things 571 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: come into play. You know, the perils of youth catch 572 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: up to us as we age, and the lack of 573 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: maintenance catch up to the cars as they age. So 574 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: clean throttle body, all right, just go through that, and 575 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: then you know, afterwards, let's relearn the idle speed. Let's 576 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: disconnect both battery cables if we can tie them together 577 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: with a jumper wire and bleed the pcum down for 578 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: five or ten minutes and then hook it back up. 579 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: It will stall on first startup. That's normal, that's what 580 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: toyotas do. And then it'll learn, and you know, just 581 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of sit there, let it idle, put it in gear, 582 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: turn the AC on, let it, you know, let it learn. 583 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: It'll take about fifteen twenty minutes. Let it figure out 584 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: who it is and where it is. It lost its identity. 585 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: When that when that's correct, and then you see a 586 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: little bit of an idol surge, you know, fifty seventy 587 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: five one hundred. I don't think it'll be two hundred 588 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: on this car, but it might but six by two 589 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: is always my rule of thumbs as a as something 590 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: to look for. Then if we still have the noise 591 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: and we seem like we're idling at the correct rpm, 592 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: then what if we you know, what does the belt 593 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: tensioner look like? Is it rattling and banging around? 594 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: You have the tentioners and the and the idlers are. 595 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Good, well good? How how do you know they're good? 596 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: Well, they were replaced with a belt change about thirty 597 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: thousand miles ago. 598 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so thirty thousand miles ago was thirty thousand miles ago. 599 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: You know, let's never assume we both know what a 600 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: dangerous word that is, right, And it would literally take 601 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: a mechanic all of about three and a half minutes 602 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: to find the wrench that fits the end of the 603 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: bolt on the idler pulley or the tension or pulley. 604 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: And what if we just applied a little bit of 605 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: tension to it? You know, what if what if we 606 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of what if we kind of help the tensioner, 607 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: because when you find out they changed the pulley and 608 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: not the physical tensioner or the bracket and not the 609 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: physical tension or won't we feel silly? Right? You know, 610 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: tensioners wear out, So if we just give it a 611 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: little bit of tweak, all right, let's let's do that, 612 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, why not? Uh? Then the then the next 613 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: thing I want to try is, if we're in gear, 614 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: what if I power break it? What if I bump 615 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the idol speed up just to touch with my foot 616 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: one foot on the brake, one foot on the gas 617 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: and just kind of sneak it up just a hair, right, 618 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: if the problem goes away, do I possibly have an 619 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: engine mount issue? Mounts dried out hard rubber, right, you know? So, 620 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: so a couple of things to think about. Is this 621 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: a noise or a sensation or a combination of both. 622 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: It's definitely loud. So yeah, that's good point. Right, Well, 623 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: you give me some things to check. 624 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the game. That's how we do this. So 625 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: but that's that's what we'd be looking for if we 626 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: were talking about it at the shop. 627 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: All right, Fred, thank you very much. 628 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Welcome, sir, you need me, I'm here, yes, sir, absolutely, 629 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Brother eight five five five six 630 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. The card do Actor's coming 631 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: back right after this, Welcome back running any of the 632 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Car Doctors. We wind down this weekend of Car Doctor 633 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: and phone numbers eight five five five six zero nine 634 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. 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It's kind of gratifying to 653 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: see people going, do you remember that car? Probably not 654 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: in a good way, but that's kind of funny stuff. 655 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: Thoughts about dad. You know, it's Father's Day. It's no 656 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 1: secret you guys know this. You know, my dad's been 657 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: down a long time. I was twelve. I was eleven 658 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: going on twelve when my dad passed. And I've got 659 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: to say my dad was probably the biggest influence in 660 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: me becoming a mechanic out of anything else in my life. 661 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: He was lead mechanic for American Airlines during the Second 662 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: World War. He worked on Roosevelt's DC three. He was 663 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: superintendent of maintenance for American Airlines. You know, I still 664 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: have a toolbox in the basement at the house with 665 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: these gigundis wrenches, you know, and every once in a 666 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: while I kind of go down there and look at 667 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: him and go, you know, did this touch the President's plane? 668 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: Did that touched the President's plane? You know, you have 669 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: these crazy thoughts, but I think one of the most 670 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: important things my dad ever taught me, and I can 671 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: still you know, you still think about that, right it's 672 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: Father's Day. You think about what did they leave you, 673 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: what do they do for you? I was fortunate because 674 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: I had a good one while I had them. He said, 675 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: you're always going to find yourself in a spot, sooner 676 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: or later. Life just sort of sneaks up by me. 677 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: And he said, when you're in that spot, you have 678 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: to think your way through and keep a level head, 679 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: and that's how you get out of it until you 680 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: find the next one. So you know what, I've always 681 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: tried to do that, And I'm grateful to him to 682 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: have said that, and I'm grateful to be here for 683 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: you guys till the next time I'm running aiding the 684 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive. You're priceless, see ye