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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is our second week doing three episodes back to

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<v Speaker 1>back to back in a week. So today we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get takeaways Quirtchins on a crazy Baseball weekend. Tomorrow because

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft is coming up this week, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have Mel Kiper, who obviously is just a character of

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<v Speaker 1>all characters, Dat and an NFL expert in a draft

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<v Speaker 1>expert for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, can't wait for Mel? Way?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you listen to how weird Mel is? But weird

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<v Speaker 3>in a really good way?

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course another episode on Thursday to get

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<v Speaker 1>you through your work week. So wherever you're listening right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Share the podcast with a friend. Easter weekend is behind this.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, and I think a lot of families go through this,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some sickness in the Kirkchten family, so we

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<v Speaker 1>were unable to all be together. We were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this episode together. But Dad, in natural dad fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a weekend at home when I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be traveling. So what did I do? Did I

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<v Speaker 1>go out and play golf with friends?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I spend extra time with the family? Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>What I did was completely repainted the playground in my

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<v Speaker 1>backyard because when my wife found out that we aren't

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<v Speaker 1>traveling this weekend, she said, time for projects.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely redid our playground, sanded it, stripped it, repainted it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I redid the border that the playground sits

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<v Speaker 1>on and brought in all new mulch.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff, I'm gonna ask you again, are you sure you

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<v Speaker 3>are my son? Because as we've acknowledged from the poor

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<v Speaker 3>Pop Pop segment on this podcas cast, that I stink

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<v Speaker 3>at so many things. All I tried to do for

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<v Speaker 3>Easter weekend was put a picture of Brooks Robinson, a

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<v Speaker 3>poster of Brooks Robinson into a frame. A child could

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<v Speaker 3>have figured this out and I couldn't, so I had

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<v Speaker 3>to give it to your mom my wife, Kathy, who

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<v Speaker 3>of course did it in five minutes, did it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas you were out painting and putting together an entire

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<v Speaker 3>playground in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so honest to god, Jeff's so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know how you're so good at this

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<v Speaker 3>when you are my son.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did make a standard dad mistake, though, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was completely underestimating how much mulch we would need. I

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<v Speaker 1>think every man and woman who has done any yard

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<v Speaker 1>work has done that. We got twenty bags, Dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went back get this. I went back to the store.

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<v Speaker 1>I got twenty more bags, right, and then I laid

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<v Speaker 1>out twenty bags and I'm going back after we record

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast to get twenty more. So Dad, not only

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<v Speaker 1>did I miss it, I missed times three. R Think

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<v Speaker 1>about how bad that is, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done it before, I've multiplied it by four and

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<v Speaker 3>still not had enough, Which is why I don't do

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<v Speaker 3>the mulch anymore, because I'm not very good at it

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm really bad accounting.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever look at it and you're like, oh, if

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<v Speaker 1>I just doubled what I did, that would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I was completely wrong. So that was my

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<v Speaker 1>Easter weekend. To everybody else who celebrated, a happy Easter

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and we're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's dive right in because you said before we even

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<v Speaker 1>started recording, this was a crazy weekend in baseball, and

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<v Speaker 1>you are not prone to hyperbole, Dad, So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you have for the takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have to start with Friday at Wrigley Field.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cubs beat the Diamondbacks thirteen to eleven. Sixteen runs

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<v Speaker 3>were scored in the eighth inning. That's the most run

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<v Speaker 3>scored in any inning in the history of Wrinkley Field,

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<v Speaker 3>which of course goes back over one hundred years. It

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<v Speaker 3>was insane. It was the first nine inning game, nine

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<v Speaker 3>inning game ever in which both teams scored at least

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<v Speaker 3>ten runs from the seventh inning on. So the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 3>got ten runs in the top of the eighth, the

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<v Speaker 3>Cubs got six in the bottom of the eighth to win.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Cubs became the seventh team ever to give

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<v Speaker 3>up ten runs in one inning in a game and

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<v Speaker 3>still win.

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<v Speaker 2>The game, which is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>But the interesting part, the most interesting part to me

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<v Speaker 3>was that the official score in the game gave the

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<v Speaker 3>victory to Ryan Presley, who pitched the ninth inning for

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<v Speaker 3>the Cubs in a save situation. He comes into the game,

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<v Speaker 3>I had thirteen to eleven. He pitches the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the ninth, which in any case is a save. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>the official scorer gave him the victory because he thought

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<v Speaker 3>that Ethan Roberts, who had gotten the last out of

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the eighth, therefore would have made him

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<v Speaker 3>the winning pitcher. Because the team took the lead in

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the eighth, The official scorer used his

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<v Speaker 3>discretion here and gave the save to a no save

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<v Speaker 3>in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave the win to Ryan Presley because he.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't feel like anyone deserved the victory for the Cubs

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<v Speaker 3>who had pitched in that eighth, And he do follow this, well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because and correct me if I'm wrong. Ethan Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>only faced two batters. The first batter he faced, he

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<v Speaker 1>gave up a solo homer and then he got one out.

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<v Speaker 1>So he pitched one third of an inning, gave up

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<v Speaker 1>one run, and recorded one out. So the official scorer

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<v Speaker 1>has the discretion to determine was it a win outing,

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<v Speaker 1>was it an outing that deserved the win? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a great call. Some people might say, oh, overreach,

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<v Speaker 1>but because technically yes, he was the pitcher of record

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<v Speaker 1>when they came back and won, but he didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>he gave up a run, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Got one out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he put in the work to deserve

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<v Speaker 1>the win. So I love the call on the official scores.

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<v Speaker 3>The official score has the discretion to decide win or

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<v Speaker 3>save in that situation. So I got three different text

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<v Speaker 3>messages Jeff, just from friends of mine saying have I

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<v Speaker 3>ever seen this before?

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer is I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Many years ago, Mariano Rivera was going for the all

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<v Speaker 3>time save record and he was in a similar spot

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<v Speaker 3>and the official score gave him a victory because no

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<v Speaker 3>one else before him pitched effectively.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough to get the victory.

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<v Speaker 3>And marianno greatest guy in the world, said hey, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>rather have the save than the victory. But they gave

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<v Speaker 3>him the victory nonetheless, So these things can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Just another reminder.

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<v Speaker 3>Official scorer job is very difficult, and when you asked

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<v Speaker 3>the official scorer to give more discretion to something, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure that's always a great idea. The game should

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<v Speaker 3>tell you exactly who's the winner and who gets the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know I'm jumping ahead, Dad, but and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about when we wanted to talk about Max Freed,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we have to talk about it here

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<v Speaker 1>now that we're talking about official scorers.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, right now, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Max Freed actually lost a no hitter in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth inning, but he really lost it in the sixth inning.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain. So the Yankees were playing at Steinbrennerfield

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<v Speaker 1>against the Rays, and Max Freed gave up an error

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixth inning. Paul Goldschmid the first basement, tough

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<v Speaker 1>ball to him running to first is the fastest guy

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<v Speaker 1>in major leagues, in the major leagues right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler Simpson for the Rays, and they ruled it initially,

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<v Speaker 1>the official scorer ruled it an error in the sixth inning,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can continue. He's got a no hit bid

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<v Speaker 1>between the top and the bottom of the eighth inning.

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<v Speaker 1>The official score changes that error into a hit. So

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<v Speaker 1>Max Freed lost his no hit bid while he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even on the mound.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jeff, look, first off, I watched the play with

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Goldschmid, who's an excellent defensive first baseman. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have scored that a hit initially because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>tricky second hop, not an easy play, And if you

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<v Speaker 3>watch where Goldschmidt was on that play, he has ranged

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<v Speaker 3>way towards second base. Max Freed, great fielding pitcher, would

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<v Speaker 3>have really had to move in order to beat Chandler

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<v Speaker 3>Simpson to first base. He might be the fastest player

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. He's three point nine from home to

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<v Speaker 3>first in the minor league.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would have looked at was, even.

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<v Speaker 3>If gold Schmid had handled that cleanly, would he have

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<v Speaker 3>been able to get it to Max Freed on the

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<v Speaker 3>run to beat Chandler Simpson to first I would have

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<v Speaker 3>scored it.

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<v Speaker 2>A hit at Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, the official scoer has the discretion to change his

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<v Speaker 3>call at any point during the game, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>change it after the game once it is reviewed. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just a cumbersome situation that Max Freed lost his

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<v Speaker 3>no hitter without giving up a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>But normally, Jeff, it's the other way around.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally, a guy's got a no hitter and suddenly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's given up a hit and they change it to

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<v Speaker 3>an error in order to you know, project his no hitter,

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<v Speaker 3>which you shouldn't do. But Bill Matthews in this case

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<v Speaker 3>made a decision that he made a mistake earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the game that should have been scored a hit. I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's tricky, but I am all for the official

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<v Speaker 3>scorer doing what he did, because again, it's a really

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<v Speaker 3>really hard job.

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<v Speaker 2>When you examine that play, I think it's a hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on more takeaways from the crazy weekend in

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yoshi Ya Yamamoto of the Dodgers is off to an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing start. Dodgers, of course, are still at least through Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>behind the Padres, who are really good. But Yamamoto, he

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<v Speaker 3>first five starts thirty five strikeouts, one point zero zero er.

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<v Speaker 3>So the last Dodger to have an ERA that low

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<v Speaker 3>with that many strikeouts through five starts was Fernando Valenzuela

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty one, which was arguably the greatest start

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<v Speaker 3>to a season by any pitcher ever. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>Valnzuela's amazing nineteen eighty one season. Just a reminder how

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<v Speaker 3>good the Dodgers starting pitching is. And Yamamoto is, who

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<v Speaker 3>was good last year then got hurt, He's even better

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<v Speaker 3>this year. And then they're the Brewers, the relentless aggressive Brewers.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Sunday, they stole nine bases in one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jeff. There are two teams.

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<v Speaker 3>The Tigers and the A's, who don't have nine stolen

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<v Speaker 3>bases this year, and the Brewers did it in one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to bring the athleticism back into the game

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<v Speaker 3>by making the bases bigger, and the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>the rule where you can't throw over, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>to first base more than twice without it being a back.

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff. It's working. But this is how the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers play.

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<v Speaker 3>They put they put pressure on you all the time

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<v Speaker 3>with the way they run the bases. Also, Euhanio Suarez,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a kick out of this. He plays, Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>for the Diamondback. So he's at the plate the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw this, but a pitch

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<v Speaker 3>went in the dirt and then kind of bounced up

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<v Speaker 3>in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>While Euhanio Suarez is at.

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<v Speaker 3>The plate, he reflexively takes his right foot and dribbles

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<v Speaker 3>the baseball on his foot like two or three times,

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<v Speaker 3>and and then using his left foot, he kicks the

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<v Speaker 3>ball over towards the dugout. You know what this shows me, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 3>It shows me that he used.

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<v Speaker 2>To play soccer. And one reason that he's.

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<v Speaker 3>A good Major League baseball player is his feet really work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a story on omarvus Scale, you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, about being this unbelievable great defensive shortstop. So

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<v Speaker 3>I went to see him in Seattle in the off

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<v Speaker 3>season on Super Bowl Sunday, by the way, And while

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to him for this story, we go

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<v Speaker 3>out into his garage and there's a soccer ball in

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<v Speaker 3>his garage and he takes the soccer ball and just

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<v Speaker 3>dribbles it on his foot for like three minutes without

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<v Speaker 3>losing it. And I said, Omar, when's the last time

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<v Speaker 3>you did that? He goes, I haven't dribbled a soccer

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<v Speaker 3>ball in ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Three minutes. He bounced it.

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<v Speaker 3>Off his foot because he could because he had such

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<v Speaker 3>great feet. Another reminder, so that Jose I Glaciers guy,

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<v Speaker 3>the great singer who's also a really good baseball player,

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<v Speaker 3>Omar Viscale told me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought Omar had the greatest hands I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen on anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, Jose Glaci's hands are just as good as mine.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reason I'm even better than him defensively is because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my feet.

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<v Speaker 3>So never ever ever lose track on a baseball player.

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<v Speaker 2>How important his feet are. And we saw that from

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<v Speaker 2>Ujanio Suarez.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it make any difference that Eu Hennio Suarez and

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<v Speaker 1>Omar Viskel have all of the vowels in both of

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<v Speaker 1>their names or is that not relating?

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<v Speaker 2>I am so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I taught you about Ujenio Suarez and all the vowels,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did not recognize that Omar Viskell had all

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<v Speaker 3>the vowels too.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, boy, I have of your favorite guys. I have

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<v Speaker 2>corrupted you so badly.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, last thing, Jeff, Yesterday at Fenway Park Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>at Fenway Park, they started a game at eleven ten,

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<v Speaker 3>which they do once year at Fenway Park.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a special.

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<v Speaker 3>Day and they start a baseball game at eleven ten.

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<v Speaker 3>And I only bring this up because Dustin Pedroia one

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<v Speaker 3>of your favorite players, because you're about the same height

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<v Speaker 3>as Dustin Pedroia. He used to show up Jeff to

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<v Speaker 3>every game eight hours before the game began, so if

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<v Speaker 3>it's a seven pm start, he would be there at

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<v Speaker 3>eleven am. David Ross was once a teammate of his

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<v Speaker 3>and David Ross is going out for breakfast at eleven

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock in the morning, and he lives in the same

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood as Dustin Pedroya. He sees Perroi and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>where are you going? He goes, I'm going to the ballpark,

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<v Speaker 3>and David Ross goes, It's eleven o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>The game is in eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is when the Red Sox played that eleven

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<v Speaker 3>AM game, when Pedroia was there, he would get to

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<v Speaker 3>the ballpark at three o'clock in the morning. He would

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<v Speaker 3>alert all the clubhouse guys and all the security guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be year at three in the morning. You better

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<v Speaker 2>be here for me. How about that, Jack?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that that work ethic is next level from paint.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he needed to do in order to be

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<v Speaker 3>ready to play. Get their eight hours in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into the quirk gins from the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that thirteen to eleven game was an entire quirk gin,

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<v Speaker 3>but we also kind of had one Sunday where the

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<v Speaker 3>Reds beat the Orioles twenty four to two, and Noel

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<v Speaker 3>v Marte and Austin Wins of the Reds, the eight

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<v Speaker 3>and nine hitters in the game drove in thirteen runs.

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<v Speaker 3>So the last time any eight nine hitters drove in

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<v Speaker 3>that many runs was the famous August twenty two to

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and seven game when the Rangers beat the

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<v Speaker 3>Orioles thirty to three, and Jared Salto, Lamachia and Ramon

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<v Speaker 3>Vasquez in that game combined for fourteen RBIs out of

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<v Speaker 3>the eight and nine spots in the order. And that game,

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<v Speaker 3>of course was also played at Candod Yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I got such a big kickout of. So in

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<v Speaker 2>that thirty to three victory, Wes Lyttleton, if you remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the save, which we've got such a kickout of

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<v Speaker 3>because his team won the game by twenty seven runs,

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<v Speaker 3>and he got the save because he pitched the last

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<v Speaker 3>three innings of the game effectively, and by rule, you

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<v Speaker 3>get the.

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<v Speaker 2>Save for doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>And yesterday, I mean Sunday, Randy Winn of the Reds

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<v Speaker 3>got the save, his first career save, and he gave

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<v Speaker 3>that his team won by twenty two russ, which I

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<v Speaker 3>just how is he ever going to forget his first

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<v Speaker 3>career save out of the game which is t won

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to two. And the other thing, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>which was mentioned to me several times by my dopey friends,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why I love them, is so the battery

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of that game was Randy Win and

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<v Speaker 3>Austin wins.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was our battery at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>People asked me if I noticed that. The answer is,

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<v Speaker 2>what else do I notice?

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the only things I really care about, our

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<v Speaker 3>goofy crazy things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of I want to shout out jj Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>who messaged us on Instagram at great game or what.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see exclusive videos and more on our Instagram page, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. Saturday in Baltimore, Hunter Green pitched against Brandon Young,

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<v Speaker 1>making his MLB debut. This is the newbie matchup. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Young against Green. You know when somebody is green to something,

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<v Speaker 1>all right?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>Look anytime that our listeners and our viewers are adding

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<v Speaker 3>to the show, you can count me in Young and Green.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. That's good, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Also this week, Jeff the Pirates won a game one

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<v Speaker 3>to nothing. O'Neil Cruz led off the game with a

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<v Speaker 3>homer and that was the only run scored. In the

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<v Speaker 3>game one to nothing on a home run hit.

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<v Speaker 2>By the first batter of the game. The Pirates have

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<v Speaker 2>been around for well over one hundred years, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is only the second time a Pirate player ever let

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<v Speaker 2>off a game with a homer and they ended up

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<v Speaker 2>winning that game one to nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Carlos Garcia did it nineteen ninety three against the Marlins.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, O'Neil Cruz is the only player in

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball history that I can think of that

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<v Speaker 1>has a name better if it were switched, he should

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<v Speaker 1>be Cruise Oz. Every time I see his name, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't feel right to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, he was named after Paul O'Neill. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why he's got the first name, O'Neil Cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And speaking of Cruise, Jeff Dylan Cruz of the

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<v Speaker 3>Nationals different spelling, crws great young prospect. He went sixty

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<v Speaker 3>at bats this year, sixty played appearances this year without

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<v Speaker 3>an RBI, and then he drove in four runs.

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<v Speaker 2>In one game.

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<v Speaker 3>So I checked with Frank at the Elias. When's the

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<v Speaker 3>last time anyone went sixty played appearances into a season

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<v Speaker 3>without an RBI and then got four.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them in the next game.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridolfo Castro did that for the Pirates in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the last guy to do it. But things

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<v Speaker 2>like that jump out to me speak, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Jackson Holiday hit two grands hit his second Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember of the Orioles, So Frank Robinson. Frank Robinson played

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<v Speaker 3>six years for the Orioles. He only hit two Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Slams in six years. Frank one of the great home

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<v Speaker 3>run hitters of all time. But he hit both those

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Slams in the same game against the Set in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy. I mean, what are the odds of that?

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Frank's final thirteen seasons he only hit two

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Slams total, and they both came in the same game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. And Jackson Holiday's only twenty one years old

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<v Speaker 1>and he's done it twice for the Orioles, right on

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<v Speaker 1>this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you have

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<v Speaker 1>for us?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in nineteen seventy, Tom Severs struck out nineteen San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego Padres in a two.

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<v Speaker 2>To one victory. First up, Jeff. Nobody finishes a two

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<v Speaker 2>to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Game these days, right, there's always a reliever to pitch

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<v Speaker 3>the ninth. But the point is Tom Seavers set a

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<v Speaker 3>major league record with ten consecutive strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>In that game.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is with the last ten batters he faced.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that for a minute, talk about being strong

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<v Speaker 3>at the end. The last ten batters of that game

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<v Speaker 3>against Tom sever struck out. So he struck out the

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<v Speaker 3>last guy of the sixth inning and then struck out

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<v Speaker 3>the side in the seventh, eighth, and ninth. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>great Tom Seaver was. We will be talking about him

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<v Speaker 3>later in this week when we talk about the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>mets of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>And last thing, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>From this date, April twenty second, Tito Francona's birthday. He

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<v Speaker 3>is sixty five years old. I want to say today,

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<v Speaker 3>so a happy birthday to Tito. We had him on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the podcast just about a year ago this

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<v Speaker 3>time when he was retired manager. Now he's the manager

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<v Speaker 3>of the Cincinnati Reds. Do you remember any great stories

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<v Speaker 3>from Tito a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my favorite story is the fact that when I

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to sing the national anthem in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>before a then Indians game, he looked at me and

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<v Speaker 1>Dad you introduced us. I had met him before, but

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<v Speaker 1>reintroduced us, and he had said, you know, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffson in the national anthem, you know this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. And he says, Oh, way to go, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>don't f it up. And it totally loosened me. And

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to him about that because it was one

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<v Speaker 1>that I will always remember as a longtime performer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that was really awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry Francona offering that, of course my favorite Tito story,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell it again because it's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>His first year, his only year at ESPN, they put

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<v Speaker 3>me in charge of him for some reason because his

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.479
<v Speaker 3>sense of direction is so bad he needed someone to

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<v Speaker 3>get him around. So I'm covering spring training with Tito Francona.

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<v Speaker 3>And the first place they put us on our spring

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<v Speaker 3>training tour was a place called Camp Wilderness.

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<v Speaker 2>In a It was a Disney property, Jeff. It was

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<v Speaker 2>not a hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a series, a set of cabins set in

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<v Speaker 3>the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>You got your own little cabin. So I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>what we're looking at. And Tito checks into.

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<v Speaker 3>His cabin and he calls me like five minutes later

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<v Speaker 3>because they're like, Jeff, it was like there were bunk

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<v Speaker 3>beds in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like we were in the cubs gouts and

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<v Speaker 2>we're both grown men.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had won two World Series as a member

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<v Speaker 3>as the manager of the Boston Red Sox. So after

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<v Speaker 3>about five minutes he called to see if I have

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<v Speaker 3>the same setup there, because he thought it was a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought like people were.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna jump out and say, no, no, no, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>really staying here. So five minutes later he calls me

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<v Speaker 3>back in my cabin and says, hey, do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to come over to my cabin. We can go out

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard and make some snores. That's what it

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<v Speaker 3>was like being with Tito.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the man. He is the absolute best. So

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<v Speaker 1>a happy birthday to Terry Frankcona, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for being a guest last year. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>always go back. All the episodes are archived wherever you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening right now, so go back if you miss that interview,

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<v Speaker 1>especially keeping in mind that we interviewed him while he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the beach so to speak. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't managing at the time and he was just playing

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<v Speaker 1>golf a lot so for Cincinnati Reds fans. If we

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to know Terry Francona even better, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>go back to season one of Is this a Great Game?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Scroll around find Terry Francona because he was a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a fun interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Jeff, I need to clarify something from last

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<v Speaker 3>week's podcast where we talked about, because you know your

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<v Speaker 3>former umpire little level, I'm a former umpire equally small level.

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<v Speaker 3>But remember we said last week that any runner who

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<v Speaker 3>intentionally gets hit by a ground ball and therefore the

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<v Speaker 3>ball is dead batter gets a hit. The umpire has

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<v Speaker 3>the discretion to say no, no, you can't do that. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't step in front of a double play ball get

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<v Speaker 3>hit on purpose, so you only get one out on

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<v Speaker 3>the play. What I learned from Rich Mazzati, who's our

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<v Speaker 3>base is my umpire expert out there. Rich told me

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<v Speaker 3>a story on why that rule was changed. And in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty seven, Don Hokee, a very good third baseman

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<v Speaker 3>for the Pirates during his day, a very good defender

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<v Speaker 3>is in that spot as a base runner first and

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<v Speaker 3>second and he's running to third on this okay ground

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<v Speaker 3>ball to the shortstop that he knows is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a routine double play. John Hoak not only intentionally

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<v Speaker 3>let it hit him. He caught the ball, he fielded

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, and it was that play, according to Rich Mazzati,

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<v Speaker 3>that that's when baseball changed the rule that you cannot

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<v Speaker 3>do anything like that, because a really clever guy like

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<v Speaker 3>Don Hoak says, if I get hit by this, there's

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<v Speaker 3>only one out, and they said no, no, no. He

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<v Speaker 3>not only got hit by it, Jeff, he fielded a

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<v Speaker 3>ground ball, just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was all the jumping off point from the

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<v Speaker 1>almost no hitter from the unc pitcher in which the

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<v Speaker 1>final out was made because a runner on first who

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<v Speaker 1>reached not from a hit but reached otherwise, was hit

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<v Speaker 1>by a batted ball and the game was over and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody celebrated like it was a no hitter, but technically

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<v Speaker 1>not technically by the rules, that's a hit for the

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<v Speaker 1>batter and an out on the base pass because he

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<v Speaker 1>was hit by a batted ball, and so and that's

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<v Speaker 1>it stood. And the point of that was Dad, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we're saying the same thing, it's different. There was,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, no chance for that first base or

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<v Speaker 1>second baseman to field that ball. It would have been

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<v Speaker 1>in right field, it would have been a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just the correct call.

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<v Speaker 3>Jet again, the official scorer has he made the right

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<v Speaker 3>call because you can't punish a hitter just because it

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<v Speaker 3>had hit a batter when that ball clearly would have

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<v Speaker 3>gone in. So a pitcher lost a no hitter on

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<v Speaker 3>the final play of the game, and the final play

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<v Speaker 3>of the game was a hit, which is just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a little bit of time on today's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we rip them really fast and do it's.

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<v Speaker 2>In the cards? Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had this pack next to me for like months

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to rip them. It's been a while, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We did not find the Paul Skins rookie card, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Yes, well it wasn't us, so we can't

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<v Speaker 1>retire early. Trey Cabbage of the Angels is our first

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<v Speaker 1>poll out of this deck of cards.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he was on our All Irish team, right,

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<v Speaker 3>all Saint Patrick's Day team. All right, we couldn't find

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<v Speaker 3>anyone named Bob corn Beef, but we had Trey Cabbage

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<v Speaker 3>on our All Saint Patrick's Day team.

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<v Speaker 1>We go into Anthony Rizzo of the New York Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>is our next poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Anthony Rizzo not playing this year. His career

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<v Speaker 3>might be over.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. I just know Anthony Rizzo was one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite guys to cover.

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<v Speaker 3>He used to tell me every spring training. He would

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<v Speaker 3>go there to spring training, even in the prime of

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<v Speaker 3>his career, and he would struggle so badly as all

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<v Speaker 3>hitters do.

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<v Speaker 2>At the beginning of spring training.

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<v Speaker 3>He would always ask himself, can I still do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I still hit in the major leagues? That's how

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<v Speaker 3>difficult that skill is, especially today.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your favorites, Jackson Merrill, is our next call

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<v Speaker 1>card from the podject.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Merril on the disabled list hamstring injury, signed a

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<v Speaker 3>huge contract. Just had a birthday the other day. Maryland guy,

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<v Speaker 3>really really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize he was a Baltimore, Maryland guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I know friends of mine who played

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<v Speaker 3>against him, saw him in high school all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and his birthday was this past Saturday from Run

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<v Speaker 1>of Park, Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, twenty two years old, now, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>And then last, certainly not least Brian Reynolds of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pirates whoops, that dropped it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Brian Reynolds can really hit switch hitter boy. The

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<v Speaker 3>Pirates got to score some more runs though, for Paul

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<v Speaker 3>Skiings and for everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that can be the most frustrated. I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to be in a dugout when you know

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<v Speaker 1>a pitcher gets up one run and they lose one

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<v Speaker 1>to zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Started a pitcher, It happens. Yeah, all right, Jeff, before

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<v Speaker 2>we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Easter weekend just to recap, was absolutely great. Had such

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<v Speaker 3>a good time, even though we missed you and McKinley

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<v Speaker 3>and Emily because of sicknesses and everything else. But I

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<v Speaker 3>did have one poor pop pop moment over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's I need to share it. The

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<v Speaker 3>snake is back at our house?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Famously, five years ago, two snakes showed up at

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<v Speaker 3>our house, both in the garage, both on our doorstep

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 3>like wanting to get into the house. Scared the life

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<v Speaker 3>out of me and Uncle Matt of course took care

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<v Speaker 3>of the snakes. We sent them down to the river

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<v Speaker 3>and gave them a nice home somewhere away from our house. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a snake that came back the other day

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<v Speaker 3>that Jeff. Again, I'm sure it's just a black snake, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was. It was five feet long, and it

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<v Speaker 3>scared the life out of me because as far as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm concerned, it's an anaconda out on our front driveway

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<v Speaker 3>and it was close to the house. So I panicked

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm afraid of everything, and I couldn't and Uncle

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<v Speaker 3>Mac isn't here anymore to.

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<v Speaker 2>Help me, so all I could do.

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<v Speaker 3>All I could do was go in the house and

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<v Speaker 3>get an umbrella, and I launched the umbrella. I threw

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<v Speaker 3>the umbrella at the snake. I startled him like a javelin.

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<v Speaker 3>I threw it like Mary Poppins.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put it that way. It was so bad, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hit him, so I didn't hurt anybody. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't hurt a snake, a harmless black snake. Your cousin

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<v Speaker 3>Christopher would have been there. He would have just gone

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<v Speaker 3>out and picked up the snake and put him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the grass somewhere. But that's Christopher, not me. I'm

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the opposite. I'm scared to death of snakes. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>even get so I threw an umbrella like Julie andrews

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<v Speaker 3>at him. It was so bad, but he disappeared, but

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<v Speaker 3>the point is he's still around the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Something to keep in mind for Poor Pop Pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say, in retrospect, Dad, you are closer to

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Andrews than you are to Dick Van Dyke in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. Can you just establish.

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<v Speaker 2>That that is absolutely clear?

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<v Speaker 3>Dick Vandyke one of the great comedic actors of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Dick Van Dyke Show, third greatest sitcom in history to

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<v Speaker 3>me behind Get Smart and on the family. As long

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<v Speaker 3>as we're making a list here and I have a

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<v Speaker 3>list for everything, as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you had a Poor Pop Pop because

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<v Speaker 1>I have about ten in the bank that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to use today, So I'm glad you had that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll use another one on Thursday for our third

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<v Speaker 3>episode of the week. And let's not forget what do

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>we have tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff mel Kiper will join us tomorrow Wednesday wherever you

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to your podcast, And of course the NFL draft

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<v Speaker 1>ad starts on Thursday, so what perfect timing to have

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<v Speaker 1>him a full episode just that great interview with is

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<v Speaker 1>this a great gameer?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Mel Kiper joins us, and.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be a lot of football there of course,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's mostly a baseball discussion, including the day that

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<v Speaker 3>he met Brooks Robinson and Joseph Abank. I got such

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<v Speaker 3>a kick out of that. Usually you meet Brooks Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>you meet him at the ballpark or a hall of fame,

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<v Speaker 3>or he met him at a men's clothing store.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I can't. I just love that story.

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<v Speaker 1>That mel Is gonna tell join us tomorrow on is

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<v Speaker 1>this a great game or what? Thanks for listening and

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<v Speaker 1>as always, thank you for being a part of our family.