1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin, And 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: this is our second week doing three episodes back to 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: back to back in a week. So today we're gonna 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: get takeaways Quirtchins on a crazy Baseball weekend. Tomorrow because 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft is coming up this week, we're gonna 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: have Mel Kiper, who obviously is just a character of 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: all characters, Dat and an NFL expert in a draft 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: expert for ESPN. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: Right, can't wait for Mel? Way? 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: Do you listen to how weird Mel is? 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Easter weekend is behind this. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Dad. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and I think a lot of families go through this, 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: there was some sickness in the Kirkchten family, so we 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: were unable to all be together. We were supposed to 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: be doing this episode together. But Dad, in natural dad fashion, 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I get a weekend at home when I was supposed 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: to be traveling. So what did I do? Did I 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: go out and play golf with friends? 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: No? 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Did I spend extra time with the family? Kind of 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: What I did was completely repainted the playground in my 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 1: backyard because when my wife found out that we aren't 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: traveling this weekend, she said, time for projects. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Jeff. 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I completely redid our playground, sanded it, stripped it, repainted it, 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: and then I redid the border that the playground sits 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: on and brought in all new mulch. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: Jeff, I'm gonna ask you again, are you sure you 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: are my son? Because as we've acknowledged from the poor 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: Pop Pop segment on this podcas cast, that I stink 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: at so many things. All I tried to do for 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Easter weekend was put a picture of Brooks Robinson, a 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: poster of Brooks Robinson into a frame. A child could 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: have figured this out and I couldn't, so I had 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: to give it to your mom my wife, Kathy, who 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: of course did it in five minutes, did it perfectly. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: Whereas you were out painting and putting together an entire 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: playground in your backyard. 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: I am so honest to god, Jeff's so proud of you. 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: I just don't know how you're so good at this 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: when you are my son. 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: You know. 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I did make a standard dad mistake, though, and that 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: was completely underestimating how much mulch we would need. I 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: think every man and woman who has done any yard 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: work has done that. We got twenty bags, Dad, and 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I went back get this. I went back to the store. 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I got twenty more bags, right, and then I laid 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: out twenty bags and I'm going back after we record 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: the podcast to get twenty more. So Dad, not only 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: did I miss it, I missed times three. R Think 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: about how bad that is, Jeff. 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: I've done it before, I've multiplied it by four and 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: still not had enough, Which is why I don't do 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: the mulch anymore, because I'm not very good at it 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: and I'm really bad accounting. 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: You ever look at it and you're like, oh, if 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I just doubled what I did, that would be good. 67 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: And now I was completely wrong. So that was my 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Easter weekend. To everybody else who celebrated, a happy Easter 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: to you, and we're excited. 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Dad. 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Let's dive right in because you said before we even 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: started recording, this was a crazy weekend in baseball, and 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you are not prone to hyperbole, Dad, So I'm excited 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: to hear what you have for the takeaways. 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: Well, we have to start with Friday at Wrigley Field. 76 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: The Cubs beat the Diamondbacks thirteen to eleven. Sixteen runs 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: were scored in the eighth inning. That's the most run 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: scored in any inning in the history of Wrinkley Field, 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: which of course goes back over one hundred years. It 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: was insane. It was the first nine inning game, nine 81 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: inning game ever in which both teams scored at least 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: ten runs from the seventh inning on. So the Diamondbacks 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: got ten runs in the top of the eighth, the 84 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: Cubs got six in the bottom of the eighth to win. 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: So the Cubs became the seventh team ever to give 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: up ten runs in one inning in a game and 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: still win. 88 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: The game, which is incredible. 89 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: But the interesting part, the most interesting part to me 90 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: was that the official score in the game gave the 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: victory to Ryan Presley, who pitched the ninth inning for 92 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: the Cubs in a save situation. He comes into the game, 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: I had thirteen to eleven. He pitches the top of 94 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: the ninth, which in any case is a save. Instead, 95 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: the official scorer gave him the victory because he thought 96 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: that Ethan Roberts, who had gotten the last out of 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: the top of the eighth, therefore would have made him 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: the winning pitcher. Because the team took the lead in 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: the bottom of the eighth, The official scorer used his 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: discretion here and gave the save to a no save 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: in the game. 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: He gave the win to Ryan Presley because he. 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: Didn't feel like anyone deserved the victory for the Cubs 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: who had pitched in that eighth, And he do follow this, well. 105 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: It's because and correct me if I'm wrong. Ethan Roberts 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: only faced two batters. The first batter he faced, he 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: gave up a solo homer and then he got one out. 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: So he pitched one third of an inning, gave up 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: one run, and recorded one out. So the official scorer 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: has the discretion to determine was it a win outing, 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: was it an outing that deserved the win? And I 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: think it was a great call. Some people might say, oh, overreach, 113 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: but because technically yes, he was the pitcher of record 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: when they came back and won, but he didn't do 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: he gave up a run, he. 116 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Got one out. 117 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he put in the work to deserve 118 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the win. So I love the call on the official scores. 119 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: The official score has the discretion to decide win or 120 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: save in that situation. So I got three different text 121 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: messages Jeff, just from friends of mine saying have I 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: ever seen this before? 123 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: And the answer is I have. 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Many years ago, Mariano Rivera was going for the all 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: time save record and he was in a similar spot 126 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: and the official score gave him a victory because no 127 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: one else before him pitched effectively. 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Enough to get the victory. 129 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: And marianno greatest guy in the world, said hey, I'd 130 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: rather have the save than the victory. But they gave 131 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: him the victory nonetheless, So these things can happen. 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: Just another reminder. 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: Official scorer job is very difficult, and when you asked 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: the official scorer to give more discretion to something, I'm 135 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: not sure that's always a great idea. The game should 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: tell you exactly who's the winner and who gets the same. 137 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, I know I'm jumping ahead, Dad, but and 138 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: we talked about when we wanted to talk about Max Freed, 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: but I think we have to talk about it here 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: now that we're talking about official scorers. 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Right, yes, right now, this is it. 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: So Max Freed actually lost a no hitter in the 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: eighth inning, but he really lost it in the sixth inning. 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: Let me explain. So the Yankees were playing at Steinbrennerfield 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: against the Rays, and Max Freed gave up an error 146 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: in the sixth inning. Paul Goldschmid the first basement, tough 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: ball to him running to first is the fastest guy 148 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: in major leagues, in the major leagues right now, and 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Chandler Simpson for the Rays, and they ruled it initially, 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the official scorer ruled it an error in the sixth inning, 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: so we can continue. He's got a no hit bid 152 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: between the top and the bottom of the eighth inning. 153 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: The official score changes that error into a hit. So 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Max Freed lost his no hit bid while he wasn't 155 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: even on the mound. 156 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Jeff, look, first off, I watched the play with 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: Paul Goldschmid, who's an excellent defensive first baseman. I would 158 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: have scored that a hit initially because it was a 159 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: tricky second hop, not an easy play, And if you 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: watch where Goldschmidt was on that play, he has ranged 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: way towards second base. Max Freed, great fielding pitcher, would 162 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: have really had to move in order to beat Chandler 163 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: Simpson to first base. He might be the fastest player 164 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: in the league. He's three point nine from home to 165 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: first in the minor league. 166 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: So what I would have looked at was, even. 167 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: If gold Schmid had handled that cleanly, would he have 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: been able to get it to Max Freed on the 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: run to beat Chandler Simpson to first I would have 170 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: scored it. 171 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: A hit at Jeff. 172 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: Again, the official scoer has the discretion to change his 173 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: call at any point during the game, and you can 174 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: change it after the game once it is reviewed. It 175 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: was just a cumbersome situation that Max Freed lost his 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: no hitter without giving up a hit. 177 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: But normally, Jeff, it's the other way around. 178 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: Normally, a guy's got a no hitter and suddenly, I mean, 179 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: he's given up a hit and they change it to 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: an error in order to you know, project his no hitter, 181 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: which you shouldn't do. But Bill Matthews in this case 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: made a decision that he made a mistake earlier in 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: the game that should have been scored a hit. I 184 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: know it's tricky, but I am all for the official 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: scorer doing what he did, because again, it's a really 186 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: really hard job. 187 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: When you examine that play, I think it's a hit. 188 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Let's move on more takeaways from the crazy weekend in 189 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. 190 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: What do you got? Well? 191 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: Yoshi Ya Yamamoto of the Dodgers is off to an 192 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: amazing start. Dodgers, of course, are still at least through Sunday, 193 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: behind the Padres, who are really good. But Yamamoto, he 194 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: first five starts thirty five strikeouts, one point zero zero er. 195 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: So the last Dodger to have an ERA that low 196 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 3: with that many strikeouts through five starts was Fernando Valenzuela 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty one, which was arguably the greatest start 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: to a season by any pitcher ever. And that was 199 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: Valnzuela's amazing nineteen eighty one season. Just a reminder how 200 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: good the Dodgers starting pitching is. And Yamamoto is, who 201 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: was good last year then got hurt, He's even better 202 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: this year. And then they're the Brewers, the relentless aggressive Brewers. 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: Jeff Sunday, they stole nine bases in one game. 204 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Jeff. There are two teams. 205 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: The Tigers and the A's, who don't have nine stolen 206 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: bases this year, and the Brewers did it in one game. 207 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: Jeff. 208 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: We're trying to bring the athleticism back into the game 209 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: by making the bases bigger, and the you know, the 210 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: the rule where you can't throw over, you know, the 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: to first base more than twice without it being a back. 212 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: All that stuff. It's working. But this is how the 213 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: Brewers play. 214 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: They put they put pressure on you all the time 215 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: with the way they run the bases. Also, Euhanio Suarez, 216 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: I got a kick out of this. He plays, Jeff 217 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: for the Diamondback. So he's at the plate the other day. 218 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this, but a pitch 219 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: went in the dirt and then kind of bounced up 220 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: in the air. 221 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: While Euhanio Suarez is at. 222 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: The plate, he reflexively takes his right foot and dribbles 223 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: the baseball on his foot like two or three times, 224 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: and and then using his left foot, he kicks the 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: ball over towards the dugout. You know what this shows me, Jeff? 226 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: It shows me that he used. 227 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: To play soccer. And one reason that he's. 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: A good Major League baseball player is his feet really work. 229 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: I'll never forget. 230 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: I did a story on omarvus Scale, you know, thirty 231 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: years ago, about being this unbelievable great defensive shortstop. So 232 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: I went to see him in Seattle in the off 233 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: season on Super Bowl Sunday, by the way, And while 234 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: I was talking to him for this story, we go 235 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: out into his garage and there's a soccer ball in 236 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: his garage and he takes the soccer ball and just 237 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: dribbles it on his foot for like three minutes without 238 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: losing it. And I said, Omar, when's the last time 239 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: you did that? He goes, I haven't dribbled a soccer 240 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: ball in ten years. 241 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: Three minutes. He bounced it. 242 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: Off his foot because he could because he had such 243 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: great feet. Another reminder, so that Jose I Glaciers guy, 244 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: the great singer who's also a really good baseball player, 245 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: Omar Viscale told me. 246 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: And I thought Omar had the greatest hands I've ever 247 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: seen on anyone. 248 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: He said, Jose Glaci's hands are just as good as mine. 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: But the reason I'm even better than him defensively is because. 250 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: Of my feet. 251 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: So never ever ever lose track on a baseball player. 252 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: How important his feet are. And we saw that from 253 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: Ujanio Suarez. 254 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Does it make any difference that Eu Hennio Suarez and 255 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: Omar Viskel have all of the vowels in both of 256 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: their names or is that not relating? 257 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: I am so proud of you. 258 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: I taught you about Ujenio Suarez and all the vowels, 259 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: but I did not recognize that Omar Viskell had all 260 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: the vowels too. 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Jeff, boy, I have of your favorite guys. I have 262 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: corrupted you so badly. 263 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: All right, last thing, Jeff, Yesterday at Fenway Park Monday, 264 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: at Fenway Park, they started a game at eleven ten, 265 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: which they do once year at Fenway Park. 266 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: It's a special. 267 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Day and they start a baseball game at eleven ten. 268 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: And I only bring this up because Dustin Pedroia one 269 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: of your favorite players, because you're about the same height 270 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: as Dustin Pedroia. He used to show up Jeff to 271 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: every game eight hours before the game began, so if 272 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: it's a seven pm start, he would be there at 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: eleven am. David Ross was once a teammate of his 274 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: and David Ross is going out for breakfast at eleven 275 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, and he lives in the same 276 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: neighborhood as Dustin Pedroya. He sees Perroi and he goes, 277 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: where are you going? He goes, I'm going to the ballpark, 278 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: and David Ross goes, It's eleven o'clock in the morning. 279 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: The game is in eight hours. 280 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: The point is when the Red Sox played that eleven 281 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: AM game, when Pedroia was there, he would get to 282 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: the ballpark at three o'clock in the morning. He would 283 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: alert all the clubhouse guys and all the security guys. 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: I'll be year at three in the morning. You better 285 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: be here for me. How about that, Jack? 286 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I love that that work ethic is next level from paint. 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: That's what he needed to do in order to be 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: ready to play. Get their eight hours in advance. 289 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Let's jump into the quirk gins from the weekend. 290 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: What do you have? 291 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, that thirteen to eleven game was an entire quirk gin, 292 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: but we also kind of had one Sunday where the 293 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: Reds beat the Orioles twenty four to two, and Noel 294 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: v Marte and Austin Wins of the Reds, the eight 295 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: and nine hitters in the game drove in thirteen runs. 296 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: So the last time any eight nine hitters drove in 297 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: that many runs was the famous August twenty two to 298 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven game when the Rangers beat the 299 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: Orioles thirty to three, and Jared Salto, Lamachia and Ramon 300 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Vasquez in that game combined for fourteen RBIs out of 301 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: the eight and nine spots in the order. And that game, 302 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: of course was also played at Candod Yards. 303 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: Which I got such a big kickout of. So in 304 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: that thirty to three victory, Wes Lyttleton, if you remember. 305 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: Got the save, which we've got such a kickout of 306 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: because his team won the game by twenty seven runs, 307 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: and he got the save because he pitched the last 308 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: three innings of the game effectively, and by rule, you 309 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: get the. 310 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: Save for doing that. 311 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: And yesterday, I mean Sunday, Randy Winn of the Reds 312 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: got the save, his first career save, and he gave 313 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: that his team won by twenty two russ, which I 314 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: just how is he ever going to forget his first 315 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: career save out of the game which is t won 316 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: twenty four to two. And the other thing, of course, 317 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: which was mentioned to me several times by my dopey friends, 318 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: and that's why I love them, is so the battery 319 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: at the end of that game was Randy Win and 320 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: Austin wins. 321 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: So that was our battery at the end of the game. 322 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: People asked me if I noticed that. The answer is, 323 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: what else do I notice? 324 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: Those are the only things I really care about, our 325 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: goofy crazy things like that. 326 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of I want to shout out jj Elliott, 327 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: who messaged us on Instagram at great game or what. 328 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: You can see exclusive videos and more on our Instagram page, Dad, 329 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: he said. Saturday in Baltimore, Hunter Green pitched against Brandon Young, 330 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: making his MLB debut. This is the newbie matchup. It's 331 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: Young against Green. You know when somebody is green to something, 332 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: all right? 333 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty great. 334 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: Look anytime that our listeners and our viewers are adding 335 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: to the show, you can count me in Young and Green. 336 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: I like it. That's good, all right. 337 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: Also this week, Jeff the Pirates won a game one 338 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: to nothing. O'Neil Cruz led off the game with a 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: homer and that was the only run scored. In the 340 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: game one to nothing on a home run hit. 341 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: By the first batter of the game. The Pirates have 342 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: been around for well over one hundred years, and that 343 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: is only the second time a Pirate player ever let 344 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: off a game with a homer and they ended up 345 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: winning that game one to nothing. 346 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: Carlos Garcia did it nineteen ninety three against the Marlins. 347 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: And for me, O'Neil Cruz is the only player in 348 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball history that I can think of that 349 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: has a name better if it were switched, he should 350 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: be Cruise Oz. Every time I see his name, I think, 351 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel right to me. 352 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know, he was named after Paul O'Neill. That's 353 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: why he's got the first name, O'Neil Cruise. 354 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: That's so cool. I didn't know that. 355 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of Cruise, Jeff Dylan Cruz of the 356 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: Nationals different spelling, crws great young prospect. He went sixty 357 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: at bats this year, sixty played appearances this year without 358 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 3: an RBI, and then he drove in four runs. 359 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: In one game. 360 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: So I checked with Frank at the Elias. When's the 361 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: last time anyone went sixty played appearances into a season 362 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: without an RBI and then got four. 363 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Of them in the next game. 364 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: Ridolfo Castro did that for the Pirates in twenty twenty two. 365 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: He was the last guy to do it. But things 366 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: like that jump out to me speak, all right. 367 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 3: So, Jackson Holiday hit two grands hit his second Grand Slam. 368 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: Remember of the Orioles, So Frank Robinson. Frank Robinson played 369 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: six years for the Orioles. He only hit two Grand 370 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: Slams in six years. Frank one of the great home 371 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: run hitters of all time. But he hit both those 372 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: Grand Slams in the same game against the Set in 373 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy. I mean, what are the odds of that? 374 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: In fact, Frank's final thirteen seasons he only hit two 375 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: Grand Slams total, and they both came in the same game. 376 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. And Jackson Holiday's only twenty one years old 377 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: and he's done it twice for the Orioles, right on 378 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you have 379 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: for us? 380 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: All right? 381 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Well, in nineteen seventy, Tom Severs struck out nineteen San 382 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: Diego Padres in a two. 383 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: To one victory. First up, Jeff. Nobody finishes a two 384 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: to one. 385 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: Game these days, right, there's always a reliever to pitch 386 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: the ninth. But the point is Tom Seavers set a 387 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: major league record with ten consecutive strikeouts. 388 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: In that game. 389 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: The point is with the last ten batters he faced. 390 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: Think about that for a minute, talk about being strong 391 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: at the end. The last ten batters of that game 392 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: against Tom sever struck out. So he struck out the 393 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: last guy of the sixth inning and then struck out 394 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: the side in the seventh, eighth, and ninth. That's how 395 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: great Tom Seaver was. We will be talking about him 396 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: later in this week when we talk about the greatest 397 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: mets of all time. 398 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: And last thing, Jeff. 399 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: From this date, April twenty second, Tito Francona's birthday. He 400 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: is sixty five years old. I want to say today, 401 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: so a happy birthday to Tito. We had him on 402 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: the on the podcast just about a year ago this 403 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: time when he was retired manager. Now he's the manager 404 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: of the Cincinnati Reds. Do you remember any great stories 405 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: from Tito a year ago. 406 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Well, my favorite story is the fact that when I 407 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to sing the national anthem in Cleveland 408 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: before a then Indians game, he looked at me and 409 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Dad you introduced us. I had met him before, but 410 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: reintroduced us, and he had said, you know, you said, 411 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Jeffson in the national anthem, you know this is going 412 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: to be great. And he says, Oh, way to go, Jeff, 413 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: don't f it up. And it totally loosened me. And 414 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: we talked to him about that because it was one 415 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: that I will always remember as a longtime performer. That's 416 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: one thing that was really awesome. 417 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: Terry Francona offering that, of course my favorite Tito story, 418 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna. 419 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Tell it again because it's my favorite. 420 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: His first year, his only year at ESPN, they put 421 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: me in charge of him for some reason because his 422 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 3: sense of direction is so bad he needed someone to 423 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: get him around. So I'm covering spring training with Tito Francona. 424 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: And the first place they put us on our spring 425 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: training tour was a place called Camp Wilderness. 426 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: In a It was a Disney property, Jeff. It was 427 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: not a hotel. 428 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: It was a series, a set of cabins set in 429 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: the woods. 430 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: You got your own little cabin. So I can't believe 431 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: what we're looking at. And Tito checks into. 432 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: His cabin and he calls me like five minutes later 433 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: because they're like, Jeff, it was like there were bunk 434 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: beds in there. 435 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: It was like we were in the cubs gouts and 436 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: we're both grown men. 437 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: And he had won two World Series as a member 438 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: as the manager of the Boston Red Sox. So after 439 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: about five minutes he called to see if I have 440 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: the same setup there, because he thought it was a joke. 441 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: He thought like people were. 442 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: Gonna jump out and say, no, no, no, you're not 443 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: really staying here. So five minutes later he calls me 444 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: back in my cabin and says, hey, do you want 445 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: to come over to my cabin. We can go out 446 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: in the backyard and make some snores. That's what it 447 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: was like being with Tito. 448 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: He is the man. He is the absolute best. So 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: a happy birthday to Terry Frankcona, thank you so much 450 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: for being a guest last year. You know, you can 451 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: always go back. All the episodes are archived wherever you're 452 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: listening right now, so go back if you miss that interview, 453 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: especially keeping in mind that we interviewed him while he 454 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: was on the beach so to speak. You know, he 455 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: wasn't managing at the time and he was just playing 456 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: golf a lot so for Cincinnati Reds fans. If we 457 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: want to get to know Terry Francona even better, maybe 458 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: go back to season one of Is this a Great Game? 459 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: Or what? 460 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Scroll around find Terry Francona because he was a heck 461 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: of a fun interview. 462 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: Right now, Jeff, I need to clarify something from last 463 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: week's podcast where we talked about, because you know your 464 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: former umpire little level, I'm a former umpire equally small level. 465 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: But remember we said last week that any runner who 466 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: intentionally gets hit by a ground ball and therefore the 467 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: ball is dead batter gets a hit. The umpire has 468 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: the discretion to say no, no, you can't do that. You 469 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: can't step in front of a double play ball get 470 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 3: hit on purpose, so you only get one out on 471 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: the play. What I learned from Rich Mazzati, who's our 472 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: base is my umpire expert out there. Rich told me 473 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: a story on why that rule was changed. And in 474 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty seven, Don Hokee, a very good third baseman 475 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: for the Pirates during his day, a very good defender 476 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: is in that spot as a base runner first and 477 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: second and he's running to third on this okay ground 478 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: ball to the shortstop that he knows is going to 479 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: be a routine double play. John Hoak not only intentionally 480 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: let it hit him. He caught the ball, he fielded 481 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: the ball, and it was that play, according to Rich Mazzati, 482 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: that that's when baseball changed the rule that you cannot 483 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: do anything like that, because a really clever guy like 484 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: Don Hoak says, if I get hit by this, there's 485 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: only one out, and they said no, no, no. He 486 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: not only got hit by it, Jeff, he fielded a 487 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 3: ground ball, just amazing. 488 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: And that was all the jumping off point from the 489 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: almost no hitter from the unc pitcher in which the 490 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: final out was made because a runner on first who 491 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: reached not from a hit but reached otherwise, was hit 492 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: by a batted ball and the game was over and 493 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: everybody celebrated like it was a no hitter, but technically 494 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: not technically by the rules, that's a hit for the 495 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: batter and an out on the base pass because he 496 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: was hit by a batted ball, and so and that's 497 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: it stood. And the point of that was Dad, even 498 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: though we're saying the same thing, it's different. There was, 499 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, no chance for that first base or 500 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: second baseman to field that ball. It would have been 501 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: in right field, it would have been a hit. 502 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: So it's just the correct call. 503 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: Jet again, the official scorer has he made the right 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: call because you can't punish a hitter just because it 505 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: had hit a batter when that ball clearly would have 506 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: gone in. So a pitcher lost a no hitter on 507 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: the final play of the game, and the final play 508 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: of the game was a hit, which is just incredible. 509 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: And we have a little bit of time on today's podcast. 510 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Can we rip them really fast and do it's. 511 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: In the cards? Of course. 512 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I've had this pack next to me for like months 513 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: and we need to rip them. It's been a while, Dad. 514 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: We did not find the Paul Skins rookie card, by 515 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the way, Yes, well it wasn't us, so we can't 516 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: retire early. Trey Cabbage of the Angels is our first 517 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: poll out of this deck of cards. 518 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: I believe he was on our All Irish team, right, 519 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: all Saint Patrick's Day team. All right, we couldn't find 520 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: anyone named Bob corn Beef, but we had Trey Cabbage 521 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: on our All Saint Patrick's Day team. 522 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: We go into Anthony Rizzo of the New York Yankees 523 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: is our next poll. 524 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 525 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: I love Anthony Rizzo not playing this year. His career 526 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: might be over. 527 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Who knows. I just know Anthony Rizzo was one of 528 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: my favorite guys to cover. 529 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: He used to tell me every spring training. He would 530 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: go there to spring training, even in the prime of 531 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: his career, and he would struggle so badly as all 532 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: hitters do. 533 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: At the beginning of spring training. 534 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: He would always ask himself, can I still do this? 535 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: Can I still hit in the major leagues? That's how 536 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: difficult that skill is, especially today. 537 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: One of your favorites, Jackson Merrill, is our next call 538 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: card from the podject. 539 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: Jackson Merril on the disabled list hamstring injury, signed a 540 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: huge contract. Just had a birthday the other day. Maryland guy, 541 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: really really good player. 542 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: Oh. 543 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was a Baltimore, Maryland guy. 544 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: Wow. 545 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I know friends of mine who played 546 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: against him, saw him in high school all that. 547 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and his birthday was this past Saturday from Run 548 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: of Park, Maryland. 549 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: Wow, twenty two years old, now, I believe. 550 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: And then last, certainly not least Brian Reynolds of. 551 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: The Pirates whoops, that dropped it. 552 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian Reynolds can really hit switch hitter boy. The 553 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: Pirates got to score some more runs though, for Paul 554 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: Skiings and for everyone else. 555 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I know that can be the most frustrated. I'd never 556 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: ever want to be in a dugout when you know 557 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: a pitcher gets up one run and they lose one 558 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: to zero. 559 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: Started a pitcher, It happens. Yeah, all right, Jeff, before 560 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: we go. 561 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: Easter weekend just to recap, was absolutely great. Had such 562 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: a good time, even though we missed you and McKinley 563 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: and Emily because of sicknesses and everything else. But I 564 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: did have one poor pop pop moment over the weekend, 565 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: and I think it's I need to share it. The 566 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: snake is back at our house? 567 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 568 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: Now, Famously, five years ago, two snakes showed up at 569 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: our house, both in the garage, both on our doorstep 570 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: like wanting to get into the house. Scared the life 571 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: out of me and Uncle Matt of course took care 572 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: of the snakes. We sent them down to the river 573 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: and gave them a nice home somewhere away from our house. Well, 574 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: it was a snake that came back the other day 575 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: that Jeff. Again, I'm sure it's just a black snake, okay, 576 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: but it was. It was five feet long, and it 577 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 3: scared the life out of me because as far as 578 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm concerned, it's an anaconda out on our front driveway 579 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: and it was close to the house. So I panicked 580 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: because I'm afraid of everything, and I couldn't and Uncle 581 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: Mac isn't here anymore to. 582 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Help me, so all I could do. 583 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: All I could do was go in the house and 584 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: get an umbrella, and I launched the umbrella. I threw 585 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: the umbrella at the snake. I startled him like a javelin. 586 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: I threw it like Mary Poppins. 587 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. It was so bad, and. 588 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: I didn't hit him, so I didn't hurt anybody. I 589 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: didn't hurt a snake, a harmless black snake. Your cousin 590 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: Christopher would have been there. He would have just gone 591 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: out and picked up the snake and put him, you know, 592 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: in the grass somewhere. But that's Christopher, not me. I'm 593 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: the opposite. I'm scared to death of snakes. I can't 594 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: even get so I threw an umbrella like Julie andrews 595 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: at him. It was so bad, but he disappeared, but 596 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: the point is he's still around the house. 597 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: Something to keep in mind for Poor Pop Pop. 598 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Let's just say, in retrospect, Dad, you are closer to 599 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Julie Andrews than you are to Dick Van Dyke in 600 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: that movie. Can you just establish. 601 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: That that is absolutely clear? 602 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: Dick Vandyke one of the great comedic actors of all time. 603 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: Dick Van Dyke Show, third greatest sitcom in history to 604 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: me behind Get Smart and on the family. As long 605 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: as we're making a list here and I have a 606 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: list for everything, as you know. 607 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you had a Poor Pop Pop because 608 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: I have about ten in the bank that I was 609 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: going to use today, So I'm glad you had that one. 610 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: Well, we'll use another one on Thursday for our third 611 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: episode of the week. And let's not forget what do 612 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: we have tomorrow. 613 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Jeff mel Kiper will join us tomorrow Wednesday wherever you 614 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: listen to your podcast, And of course the NFL draft 615 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: ad starts on Thursday, so what perfect timing to have 616 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: him a full episode just that great interview with is 617 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: this a great gameer? 618 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: What? 619 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Mel Kiper joins us, and. 620 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of football there of course, 621 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: but it's mostly a baseball discussion, including the day that 622 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: he met Brooks Robinson and Joseph Abank. I got such 623 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: a kick out of that. Usually you meet Brooks Robinson, 624 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: you meet him at the ballpark or a hall of fame, 625 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: or he met him at a men's clothing store. 626 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm I can't. I just love that story. 627 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: That mel Is gonna tell join us tomorrow on is 628 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: this a great game or what? Thanks for listening and 629 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: as always, thank you for being a part of our family.