WEBVTT - Jenn's Taking the Lead! 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.960 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:06.840 and I'm Serena, and we are. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:12.879 Back to recap Jen's episode two, which was a great episode. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.360 I was actually really happy with it. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.560 This was one of the more eventful second episodes that 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.159 we've seen in a while, because I feel like the 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.439 drama that we were seeing in this episode is usually 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:28.520 like week four, week five stuff. So we're driving, we're diving, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.840 we're driving, and we're diving right into it. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.280 Well. I really like Jen in this episode. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.440 I would say the first episode she was still giving 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.880 me more like contestin vibes, where this one I was like, 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.240 all right, che's the lead, She's running the show. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.320 Yeah. I think she definitely had some nerves that were 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.760 poking through on night one, but she seems way more comfortable. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.360 It's also just got to be she's had a few 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.800 days of travel to like settle into the role process everything, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.720 and now she's going on days with guys that she's 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.200 already met, So there is this a little bit of 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.640 familiarity with them, which has to make everything feel a 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.679 little bit more relaxing than just banging out one after another. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.280 Stranger is in your face. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.440 That sounded preferred it. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.080 I know that, but you know what I mean. You know, 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.160 guys coming out of the level one after another. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.440 So we are in Melbourne, Australia, which is very cool. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.480 I love the setting. I am somebody that watches shows, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:35.480 and when they're in pretty picturesque places, I enjoyed it 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.080 even more. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.160 Yeah. I didn't actually think about it until now. I 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.440 was like, this is so cool. They're in Australia. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.160 Except for Aaron's interviews because they got him literally interviewing 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:47.080 in front of a garage. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.640 I don't know what. Yeah, it was just something I noticed. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.320 That's so funny. But no, I liked I liked the 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.160 WEE two travel me too, Me too. I also think 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.080 the jet lag makes everyone a little bit more emotional 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.640 on edge, which is it entertaining for us? 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.040 Yeah? I was actually surprised that right away we get 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.400 a lot of the guys going at it multiple too. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.280 It wasn't just like two guys. There was like multiple 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:10.880 guys involved. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.480 Yeah, so let's set it up. We are going on 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:14.399 a group date. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.880 Yeah, we have eighteen guys traveling with Jen. Group date 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.240 number one. We have eight guys on this group date, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:26.160 which is actually a pretty reasonable size for the first 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.160 group date. I remember there being like a ton of 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.600 girls on my first group date. I can't remember how many, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.520 but it was like there was like sixteen of us 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:35.639 or something huge. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.560 Well, this one, they go into a food market and 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.919 they try what do they try? 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:43.880 They try to vegimite? 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.960 Right, which vegimite? Vegemite? 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:47.519 Vegemite. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.680 It's either veggimite or vegemite. But it's gross. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.400 What is it made of? Again? 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.040 I forget, but it's whatever it is it is. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:03:00.840 They described it as soy sauce, like hell, so we saws, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.160 peanut butter or something like that. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.520 It's gross. I know that. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:04.480 Where did you have it? 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.240 I never had it? 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.840 But I how do you know it's gross? Then? 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.120 I've watched videos I because I don't I can't recall 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.160 what's in it, but I know it's absolutely disgusting. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.640 They had vegimie and then they had a whiskey shot, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.760 and then they chased it with kangaroo testicles. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.200 I was gonna say, reindeer testicles, reindeer testles. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:23.880 Okay, that's the. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.400 My question to you is, would you, if you were 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.840 on that date, would you try kangaroo testicles? 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.399 Okay? Wait before we get into the testes so Vegemite 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:37.480 is a thick, dark brown, salty, savory Australian food spread 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:43.040 made from leftover brewers yeast extract. It's a source of 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:51.000 B vitamins late and it doesn't sound great. That's it 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.120 the end. Okay, So you didn't You didn't like that? 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:55.920 I did that? Do you? I can just see you 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:02.000 irritated right now. I'm trying for people for people. Maybe 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.520 people are curious about what's in it? 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.720 Okay, So would you try kangaroo balls? 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.920 No? I wouldn't. And you know what, I would like 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.160 to consider myself an adventurous eater. I would say I'll 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.920 try a lot of things. I have a good palette. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.520 I eat all different types of cuisines. I don't want 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.200 to try any balls. I don't want to try eyeballs. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.120 I don't want to try tesco balls. I don't want 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.800 to try any like parts that aren't just like a thigh, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.200 like a chicken thigh or a rib. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.640 So you'd rather have a thigh than a ball? 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.840 Sure, wouldn't you just thigh over chicken balls? I? 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.440 Agree? But would you try They tried it and didn't 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.159 know what it was. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.600 See that was even crazier to me than them trying it. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.680 Like knowing what it is and trying it is one thing, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.520 Like kudos to you. You're more adventurous than I am. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.760 Them all being like, yeah, no, biggie, I'll just chase 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.919 this whiskey shot with whatever they just handed me in 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.839 this cup, no questions asked is slightly psychotic. I think 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.120 that my allergy plays a role into this because I, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.200 as someone with a severe allergy, basically never ever eat 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.120 anything or drink anything without asking what it is first. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.640 It's now just like a habit and routine of mine too, 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.120 So I would just never be like, let me just 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.719 eat this and not ask what it is or what's 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:19.040 in it. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.640 I feel like if I was there, because it's because 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.400 it's a populated food market, I. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.320 Know I'm not gonna mostly that might even get sick 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:27.840 from it. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.200 So I trust like the quality of whatever it. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.680 Is, I would be willing to try it. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.000 But would you try it without question like you would 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.200 do the whiskey shot and then immediately But you know 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.680 what I think it was, So if you saw how 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.880 they handed them the shots. There was a glass, there 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.559 was two glasses stacked, so they pulled the top shot 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.320 glass out, which was the whiskey shot, and then they 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.839 chased it, which was which with what was in the 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 other glass. I'm pretty sure, So I don't think they 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:59.880 mentally like got to the other glass before they were like, oh, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.120 I guess it's you know, this is part two of 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:02.559 the shot. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:03.560 Yeah. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.120 I would have done it. I would have done it. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.680 I mean I probably stuck my head in a box 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:07.400 of cockroaches. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.400 Would you have asked or would you just done it? 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:10.520 I would have just went with the flow. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.520 And then when you found out it was kangaro testicles, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:13.760 how would you have felt? 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.680 Oh? I would have been like that was that was gross? Yeah? Yeah? Okay. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.320 So the first that we see the big drama of. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:27.000 This group date is we see Devin pull Jen to 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.120 the side to get ice cream, which I don't think 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.320 we've ever really seen this on a group date. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.880 No, because it's definitely common for people to like try 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.479 to steal a moment or try to have like a 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:43.839 little private one on one moment to the side, But 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.120 I've never seen someone be like, let me pull you 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.479 around the corner out of the market for like some 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.280 serious solo. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.600 Time away from the group. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.680 Aig away away from the group. And it wasn't even 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.279 like let me just like sneak you away here to 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.160 make out. It was like, I have this whole thing 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.760 planned and on top of it, it's week two, Like 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.880 I feel like there's a little more leniency with stuff 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.640 like that when it's like you're getting close to hometowns, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.520 like it's very early on. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:15.400 Yeah, but that move, okay, But can you do you 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.400 disagree with it? 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.840 I don't know if I disagree with it. I think 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.720 it's a bit of a gray area. But I would 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.120 not have done that, Okay. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.920 But if you were the lead, would that be a 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:27.680 turnoff for you? 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.360 It wouldn't be a turnoff at all, but it would 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:37.080 be very telling of that person, Okay, because I think 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.680 to be Devin and do that, you have to be 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:47.000 okay with potentially pissing off the other guys and drawing 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.400 some serious attention to yourself, whether it's positive or negative. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.240 And that's just not really my vibe. Like I would, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.520 I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.160 So we recapped a bunch of the older seasons, and 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.680 I do think the dynamic in the house back then, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:10.120 nobody really cared about pissing off the other men or 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.440 other women in the house. It was kind of just like, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.720 I just want to get time with the lead. Where 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.880 seasons nowadays, I feel like people are more. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.920 Like, let's be buddy. You see, like all the. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.600 Guys hang out, all the girls hang out after the show. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.160 There's there's guy trips, there's girl trips. I personally, I 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.160 don't think I think he made the right move. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.880 See, I don't know it. It'll be like a time 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.280 will tell situation because it's kind of like Dobbler Dahmer theory, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.480 like if she's really into him, she probably really liked it, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.920 but she's not that into him. She's probably like, mm, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.840 this kind of I want. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.920 To If she wasn't that into him, she would have 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.040 shut it, probably shut it down. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.320 No, I don't think so. Have you ever seen a 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:56.360 lead shut someone down? 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:57.120 Yeah? 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.040 Really like I don't want to go ice cream with 0:08:59.080 --> 0:08:59.840 you back? 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.320 Well, I think it was an easy and easy out. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.040 Could have been, hey, we're on a group date. We 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:04.600 can't do that. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.800 I've never seen a lead do that. I've never seen 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.280 It's like it's the same as when people come to 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.720 steal leads, like I've never seen them be well, that's 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.880 not true. Sometimes they will stop them, but it's not 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.319 like they're like mmmm, we like, no, I'm not going 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.040 with you, come back in an hour like they do 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.480 kind of let the guys or the girls whoever. The 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.560 contestants are like put themselves out there without shutting them down, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.400 which I think is a good thing. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.720 What do you think about how Aaron feels about Deven, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.480 because that becomes. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.040 Throughout the first half of the show. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.480 That's the theme of Aaron first even we could almost 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.920 hop to after the group date they do like what 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.200 is it a cocktail hour or something with the guys. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.240 Yeah, well we can't skip about on the roast, oh 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.920 the roast, but yeah, we do see Erin getting pissed 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.400 off about the ice cream thing. I would be a 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.960 little turned off if I was on the show and 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.439 one of the girls first group date that we've ever 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.880 had pulls the dude. I'd be like, oh, okay, Like 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.520 that's the game they're playing. Like noted, but Aaron just 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.560 seems like a very black and white kind of person, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.439 like this is what's right, and this is what's wrong. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.120 This is how you should act, and this is how 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.760 you shouldn't act, and Devin just seems like someone who 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.120 kind of lives by his own rules, his own code 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.360 of conduct, and is like, look, mind your business like 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.199 you do you all do me Like I don't care 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.360 how you're acting. You shouldn't care how I'm acting. So 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.520 they're just like so different from one another. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.960 Well, we always we know how this goes when when 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:42.320 one person gets frustrated and infatuated with another person on 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:47.280 the show, that becomes their achilles heel, because then they 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.760 just end up getting lost in that and then not 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:52.560 end up having a connection with the lead. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.400 One hundred percent. It's very easy, I feel like for 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.560 people to become like hyper fixated on another contestant and 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.000 it totally makes them lose. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:11.120 Like, so is Aaron Sydney and Devin Maria right now? 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:12.240 Is that what's happening? 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.040 Is Aaron Sydney and is Devin Maria? A little bit? 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.160 I think there's definitely some similarity to the dynamic, but 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.480 I don't think Aaron's like, I don't know, I don't 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.559 think it's as like vicious as the Sydney Maria dynamic. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.640 Like there was a lot of conflict in Connell. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.960 Yeah, I mean that this is only this is only 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.520 episode two. Okay, so we. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.360 See could could evolve into something similar for. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.640 Sure, And then we see the roast. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.559 Crazy because Aaron's like light hair, and like, oh yeah. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.120 That's who they are. That is that is what's happening. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:43.800 That's crazy. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.640 We go to the roast where they they all roast. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.520 It's basically a stand ups, a comedians doing stand up. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.080 They all go and the guys basically are told they 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.760 have to you know, they have like ten minutes to 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.040 prep and they have to perform, and you know, that's 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.920 kind of the temperature check right there of how the 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.480 guys feel about Devan, because every guy that we see 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.079 goes up basically rips on Devine hundred percent. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:10.120 But I also think he just made himself an easy target. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.720 Yeah, but as a viewer, it's hard not to actually 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.280 like him because I feel like he's handling all the 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:21.319 conflict pretty well. Like even like all the guys are 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.439 making fun of him, he's laughing, he's not getting like it. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.680 It's it's kind of like you're almost kind of rooting 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:29.600 for him a little bit. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.640 He to me seems like the guy that likes to 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.679 be in that kind of position. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.360 Though. Yeah, but so what. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.760 No, No, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying, like, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:45.600 I don't I think that like he is okay with 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.240 being this like polarizing personality for sure, And I feel 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.800 like there's a part of him that maybe likes that 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.440 and the guy's ripping into him. I mean, A, he 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.360 seems like he has a good sense of humor and 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.720 he can laugh at himself, which is a good quality. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.200 But B I think he like knows who he is 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.520 and he's okay that he's kind of like riled the 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.240 group up a little bit of anything. I think he's 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.959 probably like enjoying it, do you know what I mean? 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.840 Like he's like, yeah, guys, like I took her to 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.800 good ice cream, I spent a bunch of one on 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.120 one time with her. Like you're all jealous. Now you're 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.960 all poking fun at me, Like it's it's all good. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.040 You know, Devin's doing what he came here to do. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.800 If you're Jen and you are, you are starting to 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.160 pick up on this. You're obviously you're sitting there listening 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:38.160 to all this. What is your take on Devin right now? 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.400 Are you more attracted or less attractive? 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.520 Because I feel like this makes him I feel like 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.200 this makes him more attractive to Jen. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.800 I also just think like Jen throughout so many parts 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.960 of the state has learned so much more about Devin 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.600 than any other guy, like by like himself, him putting 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.360 himself out there, him pulling her aside, like a lot 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.200 of his acts have been very showing of who he 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.760 is and the kind of guy he is. And also 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.960 now the guy's all roasting him, like how he takes that, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.800 It kind of like is telling of the dynamic in 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.160 the house. The guys maybe like him, don't like him, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.400 Like there's a bit of spice there. So I don't 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.240 know if it makes if I'm Jenna, don't know if I'm 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.360 more or less attracted to him, but I definitely feel 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.840 like I know him probably better than any of the 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.920 other guys at this point, which is a positive no 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.920 matter what in the situation. That's a positive. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.480 Later in the episode, we see John do an interview 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.560 where he's basically like, I actually don't really have an 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.040 issue with Devin. It's just he kind of goes about 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:50.120 everything like a jackass, which which I also think is 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.600 very similar. That's why I keep when I even referred 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.760 to him as Braden last episode. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.360 That was kind of similar to like the braining. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.000 He definitely has great and energy. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.320 He did things, so yeah, we're seeing that. Okay. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.880 So but I will say, if I'm Jen and all 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.480 the guys are roast everything, Devin's down on this date, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.640 I think is catching Jen's eye in a good way. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.560 If I was the lead, I think it would make 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.000 me like Devin Moore. But I don't know if I 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.400 would take him as seriously, if that makes sense. But 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.200 that's very personal to me and like what I look 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.080 for in a guy. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.200 But I don't. I also don't think. I don't know. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.400 I think when you're the lead at the beginning, there's 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.720 so many guys. I don't think you really need to 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.160 be concerned with who you. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.760 Have to take serious. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.720 I think it's all just about who's kind of standing 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.680 out and who's making. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.240 You laugh in the beginning. Sure, but I mean like 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.640 it goes by so fast that to some extent you 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.800 kind of always have to be like clocking those guys 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.440 in the back of your mind of like, this guy's 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.800 really exhibiting husband material, yeah, or this guy's really exhibiting 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.960 fun boyfriend material. There guy's exhibiting you know, we have 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.960 no connection he's going to go home. Yeah, okay, So 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.640 we go to the night portion of the group date. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.600 We see her have some really great conversations with Grant 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.400 and with Jonathan. But aside from Jen's time with the guys, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.880 we see Aaron and Devon get into it and they 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.200 basically have like a one on one chat where Devin 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.640 or no, Aaron's is to Devon she doesn't want to 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.680 be with a boy, and the whole vibe of the 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.800 chat is like Aaron's just pissed off the way Devon's 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:34.320 been acting. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:39.520 Yeah, also like does he even know what Gen's type 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.160 is and who Jen is even into? 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.000 But yeah, that is one hundred percent thing like maybe 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.640 Jen does want to be with a boy, like you 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.440 actually have no idea? Yeah, you don't know. I think 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.800 that's that's done across the board with contestants, not just Aaron, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.600 where they really think, like they know what the lead 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.880 is looking for, and usually the archetype is something that 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.760 resembles themselves and that's so hard to not do in 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.880 that environment. But like you have to kind of scrap 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.560 your assumptions of what this person is looking for and 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.239 really figure it out because it might not be what 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.600 you think it is, And I really will say, like, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.720 I feel like every lead has a different image of 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.720 what it means to be like a great husband and 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.640 a great partner. Yeah, Like there are obviously some crossovers, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.080 but like Jen seems to be really into Devin, Like 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.920 maybe that is what she's looking for. Maybe she does 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.280 want this like aful, young energy. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.520 Yeah, And I actually think that's kind of the vibe 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.160 I feel like Jen gave on Joey season and kind 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.400 of what I saw from her night one. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.880 What did you think of like the ice cream gate 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.399 situation where Devin came in to steal Jen from Aaron 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.639 and was like, hey, man, I've got ice cream? Can 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.280 I stealer? And Aaron was like no, and he was 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:51.159 like I wasn't asking. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.040 Yeah, And then. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.439 Aaron came back and was like can I steal her? 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:54.560 And he was like, I wasn't asking. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:59.040 I thought that was a bad look for both guys totally. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.159 If I was Jen, I'd be like, this sucks. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.960 They should have just they should have just called it 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.360 quit after the first one. Let the first I don't 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.919 remember which guy stole her first, but just kind of 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.280 be the bigger person in that situation because then it 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.920 becomes just a pissing contest, and I thought they both 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:14.480 looked bad. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.760 Yeah, and it's awkward because Jen's just sitting there like okay, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.919 you guys are just kind of bickering in front of me. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.200 This is really awkward. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.679 And they all kept saying sorry. They both kept saying 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.840 sorry to Jen, like sorry, like sorry, this had to happen. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.920 It's like, okay, well then just like let's stop. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.560 Yah no, don't apologize to me, Like keep this up, 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.280 and you guys are gonna be the one that our 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.280 story because it's going to ruin our relationships. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.280 So yeah, that was yeah, bad luck, bad luck for 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:39.840 both guys. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.919 Yeah. So then we end off the night portion with 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.679 Grant getting the group date Rose. We're going to be 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.240 having Grant on later this week for an exclusive interview 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.159 on Bachelor Happy Hours, so be sure to tune in 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:54.840 for that, and we're going to learn more about him 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.159 his time with Jen and kind of has taken all 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.880 this drama in the house, so be sure to tune in. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.480 Yeah. I like Grant and good for him to get 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.560 that group date Rows. And there you go. It's like 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.320 those two guys. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.520 May have been in front of Grant and by them 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.560 bickering back and forth, they lose, they missed the opportunity. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.440 I really liked Grant, I really liked Jonathan on this 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.560