Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe
Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are.
Speaker 2: Back to recap Jen's episode two, which was a great episode.
Speaker 1: I was actually really happy with it.
Speaker 3: This was one of the more eventful second episodes that
Speaker 3: we've seen in a while, because I feel like the
Speaker 3: drama that we were seeing in this episode is usually
Speaker 3: like week four, week five stuff. So we're driving, we're diving,
Speaker 3: we're driving, and we're diving right into it.
Speaker 1: Well. I really like Jen in this episode.
Speaker 2: I would say the first episode she was still giving
Speaker 2: me more like contestin vibes, where this one I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, che's the lead, She's running the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she definitely had some nerves that were
Speaker 3: poking through on night one, but she seems way more comfortable.
Speaker 3: It's also just got to be she's had a few
Speaker 3: days of travel to like settle into the role process everything,
Speaker 3: and now she's going on days with guys that she's
Speaker 3: already met, So there is this a little bit of
Speaker 3: familiarity with them, which has to make everything feel a
Speaker 3: little bit more relaxing than just banging out one after another.
Speaker 3: Stranger is in your face.
Speaker 1: That sounded preferred it.
Speaker 3: I know that, but you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 3: guys coming out of the level one after another.
Speaker 2: So we are in Melbourne, Australia, which is very cool.
Speaker 2: I love the setting. I am somebody that watches shows,
Speaker 2: and when they're in pretty picturesque places, I enjoyed it
Speaker 2: even more.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't actually think about it until now. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is so cool. They're in Australia.
Speaker 2: Except for Aaron's interviews because they got him literally interviewing
Speaker 2: in front of a garage.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Yeah, it was just something I noticed.
Speaker 3: That's so funny. But no, I liked I liked the
Speaker 3: WEE two travel me too, Me too. I also think
Speaker 3: the jet lag makes everyone a little bit more emotional
Speaker 3: on edge, which is it entertaining for us?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was actually surprised that right away we get
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys going at it multiple too.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just like two guys. There was like multiple
Speaker 3: guys involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's set it up. We are going on
Speaker 1: a group date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have eighteen guys traveling with Jen. Group date
Speaker 3: number one. We have eight guys on this group date,
Speaker 3: which is actually a pretty reasonable size for the first
Speaker 3: group date. I remember there being like a ton of
Speaker 3: girls on my first group date. I can't remember how many,
Speaker 3: but it was like there was like sixteen of us
Speaker 3: or something huge.
Speaker 2: Well, this one, they go into a food market and
Speaker 2: they try what do they try?
Speaker 3: They try to vegimite?
Speaker 1: Right, which vegimite? Vegemite?
Speaker 3: Vegemite.
Speaker 1: It's either veggimite or vegemite. But it's gross.
Speaker 3: What is it made of? Again?
Speaker 1: I forget, but it's whatever it is it is.
Speaker 3: They described it as soy sauce, like hell, so we saws,
Speaker 3: peanut butter or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's gross. I know that.
Speaker 3: Where did you have it?
Speaker 1: I never had it?
Speaker 3: But I how do you know it's gross? Then?
Speaker 1: I've watched videos I because I don't I can't recall
Speaker 1: what's in it, but I know it's absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 3: They had vegimie and then they had a whiskey shot,
Speaker 3: and then they chased it with kangaroo testicles.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, reindeer testicles, reindeer testles.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the.
Speaker 2: My question to you is, would you, if you were
Speaker 2: on that date, would you try kangaroo testicles?
Speaker 3: Okay? Wait before we get into the testes so Vegemite
Speaker 3: is a thick, dark brown, salty, savory Australian food spread
Speaker 3: made from leftover brewers yeast extract. It's a source of
Speaker 3: B vitamins late and it doesn't sound great. That's it
Speaker 3: the end. Okay, So you didn't You didn't like that?
Speaker 3: I did that? Do you? I can just see you
Speaker 3: irritated right now. I'm trying for people for people. Maybe
Speaker 3: people are curious about what's in it?
Speaker 1: Okay, So would you try kangaroo balls?
Speaker 3: No? I wouldn't. And you know what, I would like
Speaker 3: to consider myself an adventurous eater. I would say I'll
Speaker 3: try a lot of things. I have a good palette.
Speaker 3: I eat all different types of cuisines. I don't want
Speaker 3: to try any balls. I don't want to try eyeballs.
Speaker 3: I don't want to try tesco balls. I don't want
Speaker 3: to try any like parts that aren't just like a thigh,
Speaker 3: like a chicken thigh or a rib.
Speaker 1: So you'd rather have a thigh than a ball?
Speaker 3: Sure, wouldn't you just thigh over chicken balls? I?
Speaker 1: Agree? But would you try They tried it and didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was.
Speaker 3: See that was even crazier to me than them trying it.
Speaker 3: Like knowing what it is and trying it is one thing,
Speaker 3: Like kudos to you. You're more adventurous than I am.
Speaker 3: Them all being like, yeah, no, biggie, I'll just chase
Speaker 3: this whiskey shot with whatever they just handed me in
Speaker 3: this cup, no questions asked is slightly psychotic. I think
Speaker 3: that my allergy plays a role into this because I,
Speaker 3: as someone with a severe allergy, basically never ever eat
Speaker 3: anything or drink anything without asking what it is first.
Speaker 3: It's now just like a habit and routine of mine too,
Speaker 3: So I would just never be like, let me just
Speaker 3: eat this and not ask what it is or what's
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 2: I feel like if I was there, because it's because
Speaker 2: it's a populated food market, I.
Speaker 1: Know I'm not gonna mostly that might even get sick
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 3: So I trust like the quality of whatever it.
Speaker 1: Is, I would be willing to try it.
Speaker 3: But would you try it without question like you would
Speaker 3: do the whiskey shot and then immediately But you know
Speaker 3: what I think it was, So if you saw how
Speaker 3: they handed them the shots. There was a glass, there
Speaker 3: was two glasses stacked, so they pulled the top shot
Speaker 3: glass out, which was the whiskey shot, and then they
Speaker 3: chased it, which was which with what was in the
Speaker 3: other glass. I'm pretty sure, So I don't think they
Speaker 3: mentally like got to the other glass before they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, this is part two of
Speaker 3: the shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would have done it. I would have done it.
Speaker 2: I mean I probably stuck my head in a box
Speaker 2: of cockroaches.
Speaker 3: Would you have asked or would you just done it?
Speaker 1: I would have just went with the flow.
Speaker 3: And then when you found out it was kangaro testicles,
Speaker 3: how would you have felt?
Speaker 1: Oh? I would have been like that was that was gross? Yeah? Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 1: So the first that we see the big drama of.
Speaker 2: This group date is we see Devin pull Jen to
Speaker 2: the side to get ice cream, which I don't think
Speaker 2: we've ever really seen this on a group date.
Speaker 3: No, because it's definitely common for people to like try
Speaker 3: to steal a moment or try to have like a
Speaker 3: little private one on one moment to the side, But
Speaker 3: I've never seen someone be like, let me pull you
Speaker 3: around the corner out of the market for like some
Speaker 3: serious solo.
Speaker 1: Time away from the group.
Speaker 3: Aig away away from the group. And it wasn't even
Speaker 3: like let me just like sneak you away here to
Speaker 3: make out. It was like, I have this whole thing
Speaker 3: planned and on top of it, it's week two, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a little more leniency with stuff
Speaker 3: like that when it's like you're getting close to hometowns,
Speaker 3: like it's very early on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that move, okay, But can you do you
Speaker 1: disagree with it?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I disagree with it. I think
Speaker 3: it's a bit of a gray area. But I would
Speaker 3: not have done that, Okay.
Speaker 1: But if you were the lead, would that be a
Speaker 1: turnoff for you?
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be a turnoff at all, but it would
Speaker 3: be very telling of that person, Okay, because I think
Speaker 3: to be Devin and do that, you have to be
Speaker 3: okay with potentially pissing off the other guys and drawing
Speaker 3: some serious attention to yourself, whether it's positive or negative.
Speaker 3: And that's just not really my vibe. Like I would,
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.
Speaker 2: So we recapped a bunch of the older seasons, and
Speaker 2: I do think the dynamic in the house back then,
Speaker 2: nobody really cared about pissing off the other men or
Speaker 2: other women in the house. It was kind of just like,
Speaker 2: I just want to get time with the lead. Where
Speaker 2: seasons nowadays, I feel like people are more.
Speaker 1: Like, let's be buddy. You see, like all the.
Speaker 2: Guys hang out, all the girls hang out after the show.
Speaker 2: There's there's guy trips, there's girl trips. I personally, I
Speaker 2: don't think I think he made the right move.
Speaker 3: See, I don't know it. It'll be like a time
Speaker 3: will tell situation because it's kind of like Dobbler Dahmer theory,
Speaker 3: like if she's really into him, she probably really liked it,
Speaker 3: but she's not that into him. She's probably like, mm,
Speaker 3: this kind of I want.
Speaker 1: To If she wasn't that into him, she would have
Speaker 1: shut it, probably shut it down.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Have you ever seen a
Speaker 3: lead shut someone down?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Really like I don't want to go ice cream with
Speaker 3: you back?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was an easy and easy out.
Speaker 2: Could have been, hey, we're on a group date. We
Speaker 2: can't do that.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a lead do that. I've never seen
Speaker 3: It's like it's the same as when people come to
Speaker 3: steal leads, like I've never seen them be well, that's
Speaker 3: not true. Sometimes they will stop them, but it's not
Speaker 3: like they're like mmmm, we like, no, I'm not going
Speaker 3: with you, come back in an hour like they do
Speaker 3: kind of let the guys or the girls whoever. The
Speaker 3: contestants are like put themselves out there without shutting them down,
Speaker 3: which I think is a good thing.
Speaker 2: What do you think about how Aaron feels about Deven,
Speaker 2: because that becomes.
Speaker 1: Throughout the first half of the show.
Speaker 2: That's the theme of Aaron first even we could almost
Speaker 2: hop to after the group date they do like what
Speaker 2: is it a cocktail hour or something with the guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can't skip about on the roast, oh
Speaker 3: the roast, but yeah, we do see Erin getting pissed
Speaker 3: off about the ice cream thing. I would be a
Speaker 3: little turned off if I was on the show and
Speaker 3: one of the girls first group date that we've ever
Speaker 3: had pulls the dude. I'd be like, oh, okay, Like
Speaker 3: that's the game they're playing. Like noted, but Aaron just
Speaker 3: seems like a very black and white kind of person,
Speaker 3: like this is what's right, and this is what's wrong.
Speaker 3: This is how you should act, and this is how
Speaker 3: you shouldn't act, and Devin just seems like someone who
Speaker 3: kind of lives by his own rules, his own code
Speaker 3: of conduct, and is like, look, mind your business like
Speaker 3: you do you all do me Like I don't care
Speaker 3: how you're acting. You shouldn't care how I'm acting. So
Speaker 3: they're just like so different from one another.
Speaker 2: Well, we always we know how this goes when when
Speaker 2: one person gets frustrated and infatuated with another person on
Speaker 2: the show, that becomes their achilles heel, because then they
Speaker 2: just end up getting lost in that and then not
Speaker 2: end up having a connection with the lead.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. It's very easy, I feel like for
Speaker 3: people to become like hyper fixated on another contestant and
Speaker 3: it totally makes them lose.
Speaker 2: Like, so is Aaron Sydney and Devin Maria right now?
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 3: Is Aaron Sydney and is Devin Maria? A little bit?
Speaker 3: I think there's definitely some similarity to the dynamic, but
Speaker 3: I don't think Aaron's like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 3: think it's as like vicious as the Sydney Maria dynamic.
Speaker 3: Like there was a lot of conflict in Connell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that this is only this is only
Speaker 1: episode two. Okay, so we.
Speaker 3: See could could evolve into something similar for.
Speaker 1: Sure, And then we see the roast.
Speaker 3: Crazy because Aaron's like light hair, and like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: That's who they are. That is that is what's happening.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: We go to the roast where they they all roast.
Speaker 2: It's basically a stand ups, a comedians doing stand up.
Speaker 2: They all go and the guys basically are told they
Speaker 2: have to you know, they have like ten minutes to
Speaker 2: prep and they have to perform, and you know, that's
Speaker 2: kind of the temperature check right there of how the
Speaker 2: guys feel about Devan, because every guy that we see
Speaker 2: goes up basically rips on Devine hundred percent.
Speaker 3: But I also think he just made himself an easy target.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as a viewer, it's hard not to actually
Speaker 2: like him because I feel like he's handling all the
Speaker 2: conflict pretty well. Like even like all the guys are
Speaker 2: making fun of him, he's laughing, he's not getting like it.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of like you're almost kind of rooting
Speaker 2: for him a little bit.
Speaker 3: He to me seems like the guy that likes to
Speaker 3: be in that kind of position.
Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, but so what.
Speaker 3: No, No, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: I don't I think that like he is okay with
Speaker 3: being this like polarizing personality for sure, And I feel
Speaker 3: like there's a part of him that maybe likes that
Speaker 3: and the guy's ripping into him. I mean, A, he
Speaker 3: seems like he has a good sense of humor and
Speaker 3: he can laugh at himself, which is a good quality.
Speaker 3: But B I think he like knows who he is
Speaker 3: and he's okay that he's kind of like riled the
Speaker 3: group up a little bit of anything. I think he's
Speaker 3: probably like enjoying it, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like he's like, yeah, guys, like I took her to
Speaker 3: good ice cream, I spent a bunch of one on
Speaker 3: one time with her. Like you're all jealous. Now you're
Speaker 3: all poking fun at me, Like it's it's all good.
Speaker 3: You know, Devin's doing what he came here to do.
Speaker 2: If you're Jen and you are, you are starting to
Speaker 2: pick up on this. You're obviously you're sitting there listening
Speaker 2: to all this. What is your take on Devin right now?
Speaker 2: Are you more attracted or less attractive?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like this makes him I feel like
Speaker 1: this makes him more attractive to Jen.
Speaker 3: I also just think like Jen throughout so many parts
Speaker 3: of the state has learned so much more about Devin
Speaker 3: than any other guy, like by like himself, him putting
Speaker 3: himself out there, him pulling her aside, like a lot
Speaker 3: of his acts have been very showing of who he
Speaker 3: is and the kind of guy he is. And also
Speaker 3: now the guy's all roasting him, like how he takes that,
Speaker 3: It kind of like is telling of the dynamic in
Speaker 3: the house. The guys maybe like him, don't like him,
Speaker 3: Like there's a bit of spice there. So I don't
Speaker 3: know if it makes if I'm Jenna, don't know if I'm
Speaker 3: more or less attracted to him, but I definitely feel
Speaker 3: like I know him probably better than any of the
Speaker 3: other guys at this point, which is a positive no
Speaker 3: matter what in the situation. That's a positive.
Speaker 2: Later in the episode, we see John do an interview
Speaker 2: where he's basically like, I actually don't really have an
Speaker 2: issue with Devin. It's just he kind of goes about
Speaker 2: everything like a jackass, which which I also think is
Speaker 2: very similar. That's why I keep when I even referred
Speaker 2: to him as Braden last episode.
Speaker 1: That was kind of similar to like the braining.
Speaker 3: He definitely has great and energy.
Speaker 1: He did things, so yeah, we're seeing that. Okay.
Speaker 3: So but I will say, if I'm Jen and all
Speaker 3: the guys are roast everything, Devin's down on this date,
Speaker 3: I think is catching Jen's eye in a good way.
Speaker 3: If I was the lead, I think it would make
Speaker 3: me like Devin Moore. But I don't know if I
Speaker 3: would take him as seriously, if that makes sense. But
Speaker 3: that's very personal to me and like what I look
Speaker 3: for in a guy.
Speaker 1: But I don't. I also don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think when you're the lead at the beginning, there's
Speaker 2: so many guys. I don't think you really need to
Speaker 2: be concerned with who you.
Speaker 1: Have to take serious.
Speaker 2: I think it's all just about who's kind of standing
Speaker 2: out and who's making.
Speaker 3: You laugh in the beginning. Sure, but I mean like
Speaker 3: it goes by so fast that to some extent you
Speaker 3: kind of always have to be like clocking those guys
Speaker 3: in the back of your mind of like, this guy's
Speaker 3: really exhibiting husband material, yeah, or this guy's really exhibiting
Speaker 3: fun boyfriend material. There guy's exhibiting you know, we have
Speaker 3: no connection he's going to go home. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 3: we go to the night portion of the group date.
Speaker 3: We see her have some really great conversations with Grant
Speaker 3: and with Jonathan. But aside from Jen's time with the guys,
Speaker 3: we see Aaron and Devon get into it and they
Speaker 3: basically have like a one on one chat where Devin
Speaker 3: or no, Aaron's is to Devon she doesn't want to
Speaker 3: be with a boy, and the whole vibe of the
Speaker 3: chat is like Aaron's just pissed off the way Devon's
Speaker 3: been acting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, also like does he even know what Gen's type
Speaker 2: is and who Jen is even into?
Speaker 3: But yeah, that is one hundred percent thing like maybe
Speaker 3: Jen does want to be with a boy, like you
Speaker 3: actually have no idea? Yeah, you don't know. I think
Speaker 3: that's that's done across the board with contestants, not just Aaron,
Speaker 3: where they really think, like they know what the lead
Speaker 3: is looking for, and usually the archetype is something that
Speaker 3: resembles themselves and that's so hard to not do in
Speaker 3: that environment. But like you have to kind of scrap
Speaker 3: your assumptions of what this person is looking for and
Speaker 3: really figure it out because it might not be what
Speaker 3: you think it is, And I really will say, like,
Speaker 3: I feel like every lead has a different image of
Speaker 3: what it means to be like a great husband and
Speaker 3: a great partner. Yeah, Like there are obviously some crossovers,
Speaker 3: but like Jen seems to be really into Devin, Like
Speaker 3: maybe that is what she's looking for. Maybe she does
Speaker 3: want this like aful, young energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually think that's kind of the vibe
Speaker 2: I feel like Jen gave on Joey season and kind
Speaker 2: of what I saw from her night one.
Speaker 3: What did you think of like the ice cream gate
Speaker 3: situation where Devin came in to steal Jen from Aaron
Speaker 3: and was like, hey, man, I've got ice cream? Can
Speaker 3: I stealer? And Aaron was like no, and he was
Speaker 3: like I wasn't asking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then.
Speaker 3: Aaron came back and was like can I steal her?
Speaker 3: And he was like, I wasn't asking.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a bad look for both guys totally.
Speaker 3: If I was Jen, I'd be like, this sucks.
Speaker 2: They should have just they should have just called it
Speaker 2: quit after the first one. Let the first I don't
Speaker 2: remember which guy stole her first, but just kind of
Speaker 2: be the bigger person in that situation because then it
Speaker 2: becomes just a pissing contest, and I thought they both
Speaker 2: looked bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's awkward because Jen's just sitting there like okay,
Speaker 3: you guys are just kind of bickering in front of me.
Speaker 3: This is really awkward.
Speaker 2: And they all kept saying sorry. They both kept saying
Speaker 2: sorry to Jen, like sorry, like sorry, this had to happen.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well then just like let's stop.
Speaker 3: Yah no, don't apologize to me, Like keep this up,
Speaker 3: and you guys are gonna be the one that our
Speaker 3: story because it's going to ruin our relationships.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was yeah, bad luck, bad luck for
Speaker 1: both guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then we end off the night portion with
Speaker 3: Grant getting the group date Rose. We're going to be
Speaker 3: having Grant on later this week for an exclusive interview
Speaker 3: on Bachelor Happy Hours, so be sure to tune in
Speaker 3: for that, and we're going to learn more about him
Speaker 3: his time with Jen and kind of has taken all
Speaker 3: this drama in the house, so be sure to tune in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Grant and good for him to get
Speaker 1: that group date Rows. And there you go. It's like
Speaker 1: those two guys.
Speaker 2: May have been in front of Grant and by them
Speaker 2: bickering back and forth, they lose, they missed the opportunity.
Speaker 3: I really liked Grant, I really liked Jonathan on this
Speaker 3: group date definitely standouts yea in the best way.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was so weird seeing Jonathan because he was literally
Speaker 3: we've only seen him in like a face bandage and
Speaker 3: a hospital gown. So seeing him like fully dressed up
Speaker 3: with glasses talking to Jen, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: such a switch.
Speaker 1: I also think they look really good together.
Speaker 3: Grant and Jen. No, Jonathan, I'm sorry Jonathan and Jen, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I agree. Okay, So then we go into the one
Speaker 3: on one date, the first one on one date, which
Speaker 3: goes to Marcus skydiving date.
Speaker 1: I you could tell she's really freaked out about it,
Speaker 1: which is great for Mark because he is very comfortable
Speaker 1: jumping out of planes. He was an army ranger. What.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, I just just the phrase comfortable jumping
Speaker 3: out of planes. I'm like, that's so crazy, like that
Speaker 3: anyone feels comfortable doing that. But I know there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people out there that do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's people.
Speaker 2: This guy dive for a living, and he was kind
Speaker 2: of like he was very chill, and I think that's
Speaker 2: I think that's beneficial to him because Jenna is internally
Speaker 2: and outwardly freaking out. But he I really like him.
Speaker 2: I think like it makes like when when we watch
Speaker 2: the show like guys that get the first dates, it
Speaker 2: makes sense you're like, Okay, this is actually it's going
Speaker 2: back to what you said.
Speaker 1: She's taking this guy serious. Yeah, don't you think?
Speaker 3: I think so for sure. I mean he's giving off
Speaker 3: serious energy and I feel like in return, she's taking
Speaker 3: the relationship very seriously. Yeah, but I think they had
Speaker 3: a good conversation. He opens up the fact that he
Speaker 3: was an army ranger for eight years. He talks about
Speaker 3: his experience when he was deployed and his serious injury
Speaker 3: that he suffered due to a grenade.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was honestly, that was.
Speaker 3: That was an intense story, like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very intense story that you know. It was him
Speaker 2: like being vulnerable and opening up what she says he
Speaker 2: has a hard time doing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I had listened to that. I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm watching like American Sniper
Speaker 1: or something like. It was. That was. That was a
Speaker 1: wild story.
Speaker 2: And yeah, whenever you get a chance on this show,
Speaker 2: I feel like to open up to the lead, do it,
Speaker 2: because you get that much closer and now she probably
Speaker 2: feels so much more connected to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think they had a good
Speaker 3: It was a very good, solid, first one on one day.
Speaker 3: All around. We're fans of Marcus, so I hope we
Speaker 3: see him for a while. They keep cutting though to
Speaker 3: back at the house. Oh wait, no, I'm I'm trying
Speaker 3: to remember when we were jumping back to Aaron and Devon.
Speaker 3: Erin and Devin were just sprinkled through this whole episode.
Speaker 3: But then we go to group day number two, which
Speaker 3: is the Wildlife photo shoot. Yeah, funny, this was a
Speaker 3: really funny day. I liked it overall.
Speaker 1: Me too. Uh.
Speaker 2: My favorite guy was the spider guy. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: so but you know what from shan Berg, Illinois.
Speaker 3: He was so brave. I loved him so much. I
Speaker 3: would also not want to have a spider like that
Speaker 3: in my body. When they were like, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna try to crawl up your neck, I
Speaker 3: was like, how about we find a way to make
Speaker 3: that not happen. I'm sure there's ways to prevent that.
Speaker 3: I'm certain there are options to have it not crawl
Speaker 3: into his face. Oh so gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would. I probably would if.
Speaker 2: I was him, I probably would have been like, nah,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm not good. But he I really I thought he
Speaker 1: hated it while I thought he was so.
Speaker 2: I thought he was very funny, very personable. I watched it,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I like him.
Speaker 3: And we didn't talk about him much after night one.
Speaker 3: But he was the guy that came in with all
Speaker 3: the balloons on his back. He came in with a
Speaker 3: big personality, and yeah, he was definitely the highlight of
Speaker 3: this group day for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Everyone else got these like cute little furry animals.
Speaker 1: Well, no, well, what's his name? Who ends up getting
Speaker 1: the one on one?
Speaker 3: Dylan?
Speaker 1: Dylan? I mean he did that was a massive snake.
Speaker 3: Okay, but he did it by choice. Okay, but still
Speaker 3: I'm assuming he would not have volunteered to have the
Speaker 3: spider on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you have volunteered.
Speaker 3: The spider on me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have the snap, I.
Speaker 3: Would take the snake over the spider for sure. Really yeah,
Speaker 3: I think really, you take the spider.
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't want either of them, but I've.
Speaker 3: Done the snake thing when I was a kid at
Speaker 3: some like Christmas party at my dad's old office. I
Speaker 3: remember they had like a reptile situation going on and
Speaker 3: they had a snake there.
Speaker 1: What's a more intense dangerous bite?
Speaker 3: It depends, Yeah, I guess it depends. But I don't
Speaker 3: think the snake was venomous. You're I don't think they're
Speaker 3: gonna wrap you up in a poisonous snake.
Speaker 1: No, they're not going to.
Speaker 3: But I think the snake, but you never know.
Speaker 2: If the snake is frustrating snips.
Speaker 3: It was a really good snake noise.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: But alas Hakim does not get the extra time. It
Speaker 3: goes to Dylan, who we also love. Dylan goes to
Speaker 3: get his one on one night portion with Jen, and
Speaker 3: the rest of the guys sadly stroll back to hotel.
Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about this. The Dylan conversation with
Speaker 2: Jen is fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like I.
Speaker 3: Feel like we're going to see more of him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: down the lines. We don't need to dive into it
Speaker 3: too much. I feel like they connected mostly on like
Speaker 3: family values, and they definitely expressed having a lot of
Speaker 3: similarities and things in common.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't really know if there's a
Speaker 2: connection there, if I'm going to be completely on us
Speaker 2: watching it. The guys come back and Thomas kind of
Speaker 2: leads the pack of like when when like, I'm really upset,
Speaker 2: like this is crap, Like we didn't get any time
Speaker 2: and we're frustrated.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it.
Speaker 3: Was hard to because it was a very structured group date,
Speaker 3: whereas the food Haullwine was a little more like let's
Speaker 3: wander and stroll and chitty chat. So like I feel
Speaker 3: like leaving after the animal photo shoot, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I really didn't get any time with her today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like if you watch this show. If
Speaker 1: you watch this show, this happens.
Speaker 2: All the time where a group of people don't end
Speaker 2: up getting time because something happens and their time gets cut.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean it's not frustrating. That happened twice
Speaker 3: on our season. Actually, okay, it happened on the first
Speaker 3: group date where half the people went home, and then
Speaker 3: it happened close to the end, closer to hometowns, where
Speaker 3: half the people got sent home, but then they ended
Speaker 3: up surprising them and bringing them.
Speaker 2: So but it's not your it's not your job or
Speaker 2: your responsibility or your fucking choice to really come in
Speaker 2: the house and be like, hey, us eight guys didn't
Speaker 2: get time, we're going.
Speaker 1: First, because that's fair. Well, the show's not.
Speaker 3: Like the contestants don't like unionize and like organize themselves,
Speaker 3: like this is a show like time when you get.
Speaker 2: Time and at the end of the day, it's a competition,
Speaker 2: Like it's about like falling in love and ending up
Speaker 2: with the lead.
Speaker 1: It's not about like yo, like, boys, we got to
Speaker 1: respect each other, Like you can respect you can respect.
Speaker 3: Each other, but you are also fit your character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are also still competing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just to me it was the first time I
Speaker 1: think we've ever even seen that on a show where
Speaker 1: it's like yo, like you let us have our time,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, just not really.
Speaker 3: I was in their shoes. I go back to my
Speaker 3: room with my roommate, and I'd be like the balls
Speaker 3: on those guys to ask me to sit back for hours?
Speaker 3: Will they all get time? That's kind of like Dicky,
Speaker 3: But I'm definitely not going to be one of the
Speaker 3: first three four guys to talk to her because I
Speaker 3: don't want to seem like a total jerk. At the
Speaker 3: same time, if it was like, hey, you can talk
Speaker 3: to her right now, or you don't get talked to
Speaker 3: her for the rest of the night, I'm obviously gonna
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about this. Let's say you're one of
Speaker 1: the guys on the first group tape and you exchanged
Speaker 1: two sentences with Jen before you take it.
Speaker 3: And feel like she barely knows you, and now Aaron
Speaker 3: or Devin more so Aaron, I'd be like, my chat
Speaker 3: wasn't that long and it was shadowed by all this drama,
Speaker 3: Like I need the time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm gonna sit back and wait for you
Speaker 1: guys because you're frustrated, Like no.
Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, And like I think, I don't know it's
Speaker 3: it is a fine line because I don't disagree with
Speaker 3: the like, let's be respectful of these guys. They had
Speaker 3: a hard night, they lost their time. Let's, you know,
Speaker 3: make sure that they get their chance. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, like.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not as I don't I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a respects well, it's just consideration.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's what I don't agree.
Speaker 3: With you dot feel like they have to give any concering.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be considerate in this moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it felt like they wanted to sit down
Speaker 3: and write out a list of names like so and
Speaker 3: so goes number one, and then Thomas goes number two,
Speaker 3: and then you know, Spencer goes number three, and it's like,
Speaker 3: that's just really not how this show works.
Speaker 2: Like here, if I if I now you're only like
Speaker 2: a few days in with these guys too, But if
Speaker 2: I'm rooming with one of the guys right and him
Speaker 2: and I are becoming friends and I got time with
Speaker 2: Jen and he's like, hey, I think any time you
Speaker 2: care if I go in front of you, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I actually don't care. But if the opportunity comes for
Speaker 2: me to do it first, and like you're not around,
Speaker 2: I'm taking that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fair Yeah. And it's like I like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like every man for themselves, and.
Speaker 3: This thing is I would not be the person to
Speaker 3: stand up and pull the lead first. You're really you're
Speaker 3: I guess you are putting a target on putting a
Speaker 3: target on your back. Like it's one thing to be like,
Speaker 3: hey can I steal her? You've been chatting for a
Speaker 3: little bit. You know, I know not all eight guys
Speaker 3: have gone yet, but like I want my time. It's
Speaker 3: another thing to be like I'm going to jump up
Speaker 3: and steal her first. It's like the same thing I
Speaker 3: said about Devan before with like the ice cream, Like
Speaker 3: I don't think he minds if not, I think he
Speaker 3: like maybe likes being a bit of.
Speaker 1: A star shit star.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely I do agree with that. Okay, So
Speaker 2: then this is where we see the air in Devin conversation.
Speaker 2: We'll touch it briefly on this because we I feel
Speaker 2: like we've talked a lot about them. But the funny
Speaker 2: thing about this is, if you do remember.
Speaker 3: There's actually two more things that we really got to
Speaker 3: get into.
Speaker 2: If yeah, because if this like if you do remember
Speaker 2: Tasha Claire's season, there was a guy Bennett and Noah
Speaker 2: who is Aaron's twin brother, where the guy Bennett basically
Speaker 2: gave Noah a book on emotional intelligence, and now Noah's
Speaker 2: twin brother is giving a book about emotional intelligence or
Speaker 2: whatever it was about.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was called I wrote Principles of Self Growth. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like to me, like and it was so crazy because
Speaker 3: it was such a callback to what happened with Noah
Speaker 3: and Bennett. But to see Aaron in Bennett's position, Yeah,
Speaker 3: not Noah's position giving the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like wo and I I don't know,
Speaker 2: because like he he does come across very genuine Aaron,
Speaker 2: and I do like, I don't know if he did
Speaker 2: it in a way of like.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was trying to be a malicious
Speaker 3: I actually don't. I don't think like Ben did it
Speaker 3: in a way that was like sassy. I don't think
Speaker 3: Aaron was trying to be like you need to work
Speaker 3: on yourself, like you suck. I think he was, but
Speaker 3: that's kind of how it came across. There's really no
Speaker 3: nice way to say, like, hey, you need some self growth,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a book about it to
Speaker 3: someone that you don't know, fairy.
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah. I think I think that's where it is.
Speaker 3: That's Devin's biggest issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's fair. It's like, dude, we
Speaker 2: really like have known each other for under a week,
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 1: Don't know me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Aaron's saying a lot of things like and
Speaker 3: look to Aaron's defense, like you spend a lot of
Speaker 3: time with these people. You're with them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many conversations they've had. Maybe they've
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time talking. But Aaron has developed
Speaker 3: his opinion of Devin to be someone that is not
Speaker 3: a very deep person and is more of a boy
Speaker 3: than a man, and obviously the book is insinuating that
Speaker 3: he believes he could work on himself to better himself.
Speaker 2: When I saw the book come out, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: well now we know moving forward that Aaron and Devin
Speaker 2: will never get along.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're just not going to get along,
Speaker 2: it's only going to escalade.
Speaker 1: They are the Maria and Sydney of Jen's season.
Speaker 3: And outside of this conflict, they are so different as
Speaker 3: people at their core from what we've seen, like they
Speaker 3: appear to be just I would knowing if I knew
Speaker 3: both of them outside the show, I would never really
Speaker 3: expect them to vibe. Yeah, they're super different people. But yeah.
Speaker 3: And then Aaron slips up and he calls Devin Dylan yeah,
Speaker 3: which is obviously just a total accident, but Devin uses
Speaker 3: that to his argument of like, you don't even know
Speaker 3: me to the point where you're like messing up my name.
Speaker 3: How do you feel comfortable sitting here saying that I'm
Speaker 3: not a deep person. So the whole conflict was just great,
Speaker 3: not great overall, these two just are not going to
Speaker 3: be friends. They don't need to be friends. They should
Speaker 3: just avoid each other. But you know, getting to the
Speaker 3: rose demmony because we're running out of time, Devin pulls
Speaker 3: her first, which pisses off a lot of the guys,
Speaker 3: specifically Thomas, our friend Thomas, who was here last week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: go check out our interview with Thomas. Tell me what
Speaker 3: you thought about this interaction of Thomas interrupting Devin and
Speaker 3: Jen's time to pull Devon into like literally the hallway,
Speaker 3: like not even down the stairs, into the front yard,
Speaker 3: like right around the corner from Jen and kind of
Speaker 3: reco one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we interviewed Thomas first, who was the first
Speaker 2: guy we've interviewed on this podcast, and I do really
Speaker 2: like nice guy.
Speaker 1: This was maybe one of the worst moves I've ever
Speaker 1: seen on the show. Yeah, how do you think this
Speaker 1: makes you look? On top of the fact that you
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 2: Don't deserve the conversation, Like you don't you don't deserve
Speaker 2: the time. First just because you didn't get time. And
Speaker 2: I actually this is where I was like, I really
Speaker 2: now I'm really starting to see who Jen is. And
Speaker 2: I really I really like her because she had what
Speaker 2: she said was like, you took.
Speaker 1: Away my independence. This isn't your that's not your choice
Speaker 1: to make. This is my choice. This is my show.
Speaker 1: I'm the fucking lead. And that's why I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: nice and that's just the truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like, I actually think there was something good
Speaker 3: about this because the conflict kind of pushed her deeper
Speaker 3: into being the baucherette early on, and I think she
Speaker 3: almost like needed that, or we needed that as viewers
Speaker 3: to really see her like step into that role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if she would have just kind of like
Speaker 2: zap back and be like, oh, like whatever, it would
Speaker 2: have kind of been like, oh, this show, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be a shit show because the guys are just
Speaker 2: gonna run loose with this. Yes, and we're all it's
Speaker 2: gonna be basically twenty four to seven conflict the entire sey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's clearly locking it down. Thomas does Saylorter
Speaker 3: in the episode that he's a pretty emotional guy. To me,
Speaker 3: this seemed like this was not the first thing that
Speaker 3: Devin did to piss people off. This is not the second,
Speaker 3: this is not the third. He's done a few things
Speaker 3: at this point that have aggravated the guys. Thomas got
Speaker 3: really heated, and I think he just thought, like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be the voice of the people here and go
Speaker 3: let Devin know that, like this is not okay and
Speaker 3: you can't act like this. But his method was not
Speaker 3: it Like he should have waited until Devin and Jen
Speaker 3: finished speaking, or just gone and like stolen her, Like
Speaker 3: you walked all the way up there. Why didn't you
Speaker 3: just like, hey, can I steal her now? Can I
Speaker 3: have my time?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: And if he was like no, then you say, look, Devin,
Speaker 3: you got a lot of time with her. I didn't
Speaker 3: get any time with re esterday. Would you mind just
Speaker 3: letting me and some of the other guys have some
Speaker 3: time now? And that's that. He could have literally had
Speaker 3: like a really nice conversation with Jen right then and there,
Speaker 3: but he decided to use that time to scream at
Speaker 3: Devon in front of Jen. He also could have waited
Speaker 3: till later in the night when him and Devon were
Speaker 3: both free.
Speaker 2: I pulled him aside and I don't have an issue
Speaker 2: with him calling at either. It's just it's just like
Speaker 2: there's a time and.
Speaker 1: A place, yeah, you. And the truth is he.
Speaker 2: Actually wrote down okay, and he's saying that like he
Speaker 2: basically is also calling out Devan. I'm for saying, like,
Speaker 2: you're not a man of.
Speaker 1: Your word like you said you would let us do it,
Speaker 1: and his words for Batim war, I'm not gonna fall
Speaker 1: back to the end of line, but you guys deserve
Speaker 1: a little more time. Yeah, But that's not him really,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically not him agreeing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I if he said that to me, I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 2: Dick had you're not gonna You're not gonna agree to this, yea,
Speaker 2: And now I no, I.
Speaker 3: Know then Thomas did say, you know, we agreed that
Speaker 3: Spencer whoever it was, was gonna go to pull her first.
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if there was like more extensive
Speaker 3: conversations hot about guess, And I mean, who knows, maybe
Speaker 3: Devin never really fully committed to this and people just
Speaker 3: assumed he did. But either way, it was a bull move.
Speaker 3: Everyone's saying, you know, we're gonna let one of those
Speaker 3: guys pull her first, and he did like he's stepping
Speaker 3: on people's toes, especially when you got a lot of
Speaker 3: time on the group day. Yeah, but at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, he's still there and Thomas is still there.
Speaker 3: Devin did say a line of I see all the
Speaker 3: roses in my lap, like he's like, I don't like
Speaker 3: basically saying like I don't even care about this rose,
Speaker 3: like I'm getting all the roses, like I see myself
Speaker 3: at the end with Jen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I And I've basically been pretty much
Speaker 2: pro Devin this this entire recap, but he is also
Speaker 2: starting to give me like you're like, everything's about Jen.
Speaker 1: But is everything about Jen? Or is this a competition?
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. He's got to be careful. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not the easiest thing to do, but you got
Speaker 3: to separate the competition with the relationship. And he's kind
Speaker 3: of starting to blur the lines a little bit, saying
Speaker 3: like I see all these roses in my laugh.
Speaker 1: It's like she's even like is she just a trophy
Speaker 1: at this point? Like she's the endgame because like all.
Speaker 3: These guys are against you, and now you feel the
Speaker 3: sense of like I'm gonna prove them wrong. Screw these guys.
Speaker 3: They're roasting me at the comedy. They're yelling at me
Speaker 3: in front of Jed like I'm about to get to
Speaker 3: the end of this thing and seal the deal with
Speaker 3: this girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah and all of you. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the energy was giving. I do
Speaker 3: think he likes her. I think they actually have chemistry
Speaker 3: and they have a connection. But it doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: the competitive nature can't like seep into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 2: I think that's a recap. The great thing moving forward
Speaker 2: is Jen decided to keep Aaron, Sevin and Thomas, so
Speaker 2: this little triangle of beef is not going anywhere at least.
Speaker 3: I'm actually totally fine with. I'm down to see this
Speaker 3: play it again next week.
Speaker 2: I was actually sure I really thought she was sending
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew Aaron was still fine because I
Speaker 2: still think, like, I don't like, I don't like what
Speaker 2: what Thomas did. I think is like a good reason
Speaker 2: for the lead to send that person home, because but
Speaker 2: what Aaron did not really not yet I don't think
Speaker 2: so to.
Speaker 3: Me, what Thomas did, if I was Jen is saying,
Speaker 3: like my time and this conflict is more important than
Speaker 3: your journey to find a husband, and I have no
Speaker 3: problem interrupting your conversation to deal with my like emotional distress.
Speaker 3: But I really don't think he's a bad guy. I
Speaker 3: think he just got like way too heated and he
Speaker 3: needed to like have a drink and talk to Devin later.
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have been surprised if Jen was like, look,
Speaker 3: this is just not going to work out. Like that
Speaker 3: was so offside. I've never seen anyone do that before. No,
Speaker 3: maybe like a total wild move, but I'm glad all
Speaker 3: three of them are still here. I also like that
Speaker 3: they're showing a lot of what the other guys are
Speaker 3: saying about it. I'm sure we're not getting like all
Speaker 3: of their one hundred percent candid opinions, but you're kind
Speaker 3: of seeing that, like people don't really fuck with Devin,
Speaker 3: but they also are like, this is just kind of
Speaker 3: who Devin is, so just like let him do his
Speaker 3: thing like he owns it.
Speaker 1: Well, you could tell there's a.
Speaker 2: Group of guys it almost seems like the house is
Speaker 2: somewhat split, and you could tell there's a group of
Speaker 2: guys that are kind of like, hey, like it's really
Speaker 2: about her and not us all being friends and like
Speaker 2: if this guy's going to keep stepping out, like you
Speaker 2: may not like it, but it's like, don't you know,
Speaker 2: hate the game, not the player, whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: Essentially, it's kind of and I think there's I think
Speaker 1: there's a majority of there's a a group of guys
Speaker 1: that feel that way the game, and then I think
Speaker 1: there's other guys that are kind of like, uh, we
Speaker 1: don't like this. This is bullshit, this isn't fair.
Speaker 2: Okay, that is That's a recap everyone, Thank you for
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