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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are.

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Speaker 2: Back to recap Jen's episode two, which was a great episode.

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Speaker 1: I was actually really happy with it.

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Speaker 3: This was one of the more eventful second episodes that

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Speaker 3: we've seen in a while, because I feel like the

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Speaker 3: drama that we were seeing in this episode is usually

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Speaker 3: like week four, week five stuff. So we're driving, we're diving,

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Speaker 3: we're driving, and we're diving right into it.

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Speaker 1: Well. I really like Jen in this episode.

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Speaker 2: I would say the first episode she was still giving

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Speaker 2: me more like contestin vibes, where this one I was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, che's the lead, She's running the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she definitely had some nerves that were

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Speaker 3: poking through on night one, but she seems way more comfortable.

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Speaker 3: It's also just got to be she's had a few

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Speaker 3: days of travel to like settle into the role process everything,

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Speaker 3: and now she's going on days with guys that she's

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Speaker 3: already met, So there is this a little bit of

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Speaker 3: familiarity with them, which has to make everything feel a

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Speaker 3: little bit more relaxing than just banging out one after another.

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Speaker 3: Stranger is in your face.

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Speaker 1: That sounded preferred it.

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Speaker 3: I know that, but you know what I mean. You know,

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Speaker 3: guys coming out of the level one after another.

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Speaker 2: So we are in Melbourne, Australia, which is very cool.

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Speaker 2: I love the setting. I am somebody that watches shows,

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Speaker 2: and when they're in pretty picturesque places, I enjoyed it

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Speaker 2: even more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't actually think about it until now. I

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Speaker 3: was like, this is so cool. They're in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Except for Aaron's interviews because they got him literally interviewing

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Speaker 2: in front of a garage.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. Yeah, it was just something I noticed.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny. But no, I liked I liked the

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Speaker 3: WEE two travel me too, Me too. I also think

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Speaker 3: the jet lag makes everyone a little bit more emotional

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Speaker 3: on edge, which is it entertaining for us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I was actually surprised that right away we get

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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys going at it multiple too.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just like two guys. There was like multiple

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Speaker 3: guys involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's set it up. We are going on

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Speaker 1: a group date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have eighteen guys traveling with Jen. Group date

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Speaker 3: number one. We have eight guys on this group date,

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Speaker 3: which is actually a pretty reasonable size for the first

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Speaker 3: group date. I remember there being like a ton of

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Speaker 3: girls on my first group date. I can't remember how many,

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Speaker 3: but it was like there was like sixteen of us

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Speaker 3: or something huge.

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Speaker 2: Well, this one, they go into a food market and

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Speaker 2: they try what do they try?

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Speaker 3: They try to vegimite?

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Speaker 1: Right, which vegimite? Vegemite?

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Speaker 3: Vegemite.

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Speaker 1: It's either veggimite or vegemite. But it's gross.

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Speaker 3: What is it made of? Again?

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Speaker 1: I forget, but it's whatever it is it is.

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Speaker 3: They described it as soy sauce, like hell, so we saws,

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Speaker 3: peanut butter or something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's gross. I know that.

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Speaker 3: Where did you have it?

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Speaker 1: I never had it?

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Speaker 3: But I how do you know it's gross? Then?

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Speaker 1: I've watched videos I because I don't I can't recall

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Speaker 1: what's in it, but I know it's absolutely disgusting.

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Speaker 3: They had vegimie and then they had a whiskey shot,

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Speaker 3: and then they chased it with kangaroo testicles.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, reindeer testicles, reindeer testles.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the.

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Speaker 2: My question to you is, would you, if you were

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Speaker 2: on that date, would you try kangaroo testicles?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Wait before we get into the testes so Vegemite

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Speaker 3: is a thick, dark brown, salty, savory Australian food spread

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Speaker 3: made from leftover brewers yeast extract. It's a source of

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Speaker 3: B vitamins late and it doesn't sound great. That's it

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Speaker 3: the end. Okay, So you didn't You didn't like that?

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Speaker 3: I did that? Do you? I can just see you

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Speaker 3: irritated right now. I'm trying for people for people. Maybe

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Speaker 3: people are curious about what's in it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So would you try kangaroo balls?

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Speaker 3: No? I wouldn't. And you know what, I would like

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Speaker 3: to consider myself an adventurous eater. I would say I'll

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Speaker 3: try a lot of things. I have a good palette.

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Speaker 3: I eat all different types of cuisines. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to try any balls. I don't want to try eyeballs.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to try tesco balls. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to try any like parts that aren't just like a thigh,

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Speaker 3: like a chicken thigh or a rib.

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Speaker 1: So you'd rather have a thigh than a ball?

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Speaker 3: Sure, wouldn't you just thigh over chicken balls? I?

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Speaker 1: Agree? But would you try They tried it and didn't

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Speaker 1: know what it was.

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Speaker 3: See that was even crazier to me than them trying it.

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Speaker 3: Like knowing what it is and trying it is one thing,

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Speaker 3: Like kudos to you. You're more adventurous than I am.

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Speaker 3: Them all being like, yeah, no, biggie, I'll just chase

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Speaker 3: this whiskey shot with whatever they just handed me in

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Speaker 3: this cup, no questions asked is slightly psychotic. I think

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Speaker 3: that my allergy plays a role into this because I,

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Speaker 3: as someone with a severe allergy, basically never ever eat

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Speaker 3: anything or drink anything without asking what it is first.

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Speaker 3: It's now just like a habit and routine of mine too,

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Speaker 3: So I would just never be like, let me just

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I was there, because it's because

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Speaker 2: it's a populated food market, I.

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Speaker 1: Know I'm not gonna mostly that might even get sick

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Speaker 3: So I trust like the quality of whatever it.

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Speaker 1: Is, I would be willing to try it.

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Speaker 3: But would you try it without question like you would

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Speaker 3: do the whiskey shot and then immediately But you know

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Speaker 3: what I think it was, So if you saw how

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Speaker 3: they handed them the shots. There was a glass, there

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Speaker 3: was two glasses stacked, so they pulled the top shot

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Speaker 3: chased it, which was which with what was in the

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Speaker 3: mentally like got to the other glass before they were like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, this is part two of

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Speaker 3: the shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would have done it. I would have done it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I probably stuck my head in a box

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Speaker 3: Would you have asked or would you just done it?

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Speaker 1: I would have just went with the flow.

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Speaker 3: And then when you found out it was kangaro testicles,

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Speaker 3: how would you have felt?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I would have been like that was that was gross? Yeah? Yeah? Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the first that we see the big drama of.

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Speaker 2: This group date is we see Devin pull Jen to

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Speaker 2: the side to get ice cream, which I don't think

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Speaker 2: we've ever really seen this on a group date.

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Speaker 3: No, because it's definitely common for people to like try

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Speaker 3: to steal a moment or try to have like a

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Speaker 3: little private one on one moment to the side, But

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Speaker 3: I've never seen someone be like, let me pull you

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Speaker 1: Time away from the group.

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Speaker 3: Aig away away from the group. And it wasn't even

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Speaker 3: like let me just like sneak you away here to

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Speaker 3: make out. It was like, I have this whole thing

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's a little more leniency with stuff

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Speaker 3: like it's very early on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that move, okay, But can you do you

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I disagree with it. I think

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Speaker 3: it's a bit of a gray area. But I would

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Speaker 3: not have done that, Okay.

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Speaker 1: But if you were the lead, would that be a

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be a turnoff at all, but it would

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Speaker 3: be very telling of that person, Okay, because I think

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Speaker 3: to be Devin and do that, you have to be

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Speaker 3: okay with potentially pissing off the other guys and drawing

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Speaker 3: And that's just not really my vibe. Like I would,

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Speaker 3: I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.

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Speaker 2: So we recapped a bunch of the older seasons, and

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Speaker 2: I do think the dynamic in the house back then,

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Speaker 2: nobody really cared about pissing off the other men or

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Speaker 2: other women in the house. It was kind of just like,

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Speaker 2: I just want to get time with the lead. Where

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Speaker 2: seasons nowadays, I feel like people are more.

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Speaker 1: Like, let's be buddy. You see, like all the.

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Speaker 2: Guys hang out, all the girls hang out after the show.

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Speaker 2: There's there's guy trips, there's girl trips. I personally, I

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Speaker 2: don't think I think he made the right move.

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Speaker 3: See, I don't know it. It'll be like a time

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Speaker 3: like if she's really into him, she probably really liked it,

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Speaker 1: To If she wasn't that into him, she would have

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Have you ever seen a

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Speaker 3: lead shut someone down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Really like I don't want to go ice cream with

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Speaker 3: you back?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was an easy and easy out.

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Speaker 2: Could have been, hey, we're on a group date. We

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Speaker 2: can't do that.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a lead do that. I've never seen

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Speaker 3: It's like it's the same as when people come to

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Speaker 3: steal leads, like I've never seen them be well, that's

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Speaker 3: not true. Sometimes they will stop them, but it's not

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Speaker 3: like they're like mmmm, we like, no, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: with you, come back in an hour like they do

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Speaker 3: kind of let the guys or the girls whoever. The

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Speaker 3: which I think is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about how Aaron feels about Deven,

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Speaker 2: because that becomes.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the first half of the show.

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Speaker 2: That's the theme of Aaron first even we could almost

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Speaker 2: hop to after the group date they do like what

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Speaker 2: is it a cocktail hour or something with the guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can't skip about on the roast, oh

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Speaker 3: the roast, but yeah, we do see Erin getting pissed

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Speaker 3: off about the ice cream thing. I would be a

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Speaker 3: one of the girls first group date that we've ever

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Speaker 3: had pulls the dude. I'd be like, oh, okay, Like

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Speaker 3: that's the game they're playing. Like noted, but Aaron just

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Speaker 3: This is how you should act, and this is how

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't act, and Devin just seems like someone who

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Speaker 3: kind of lives by his own rules, his own code

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Speaker 3: of conduct, and is like, look, mind your business like

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Speaker 3: you do you all do me Like I don't care

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Speaker 3: how you're acting. You shouldn't care how I'm acting. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah, also like does he even know what Gen's type

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Speaker 3: What did you think of like the ice cream gate

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Speaker 3: Yah no, don't apologize to me, Like keep this up,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Grant and good for him to get

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Speaker 2: May have been in front of Grant and by them

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Speaker 3: It was so weird seeing Jonathan because he was literally

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Speaker 1: I you could tell she's really freaked out about it,

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Speaker 2: like being vulnerable and opening up what she says he

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00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: has a hard time doing.

442
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I had listened to that. I

443
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm watching like American Sniper

444
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: or something like. It was. That was. That was a

445
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: wild story.

446
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: And yeah, whenever you get a chance on this show,

447
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: I feel like to open up to the lead, do it,

448
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: because you get that much closer and now she probably

449
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: feels so much more connected to him.

450
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think they had a good

451
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: It was a very good, solid, first one on one day.

452
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: All around. We're fans of Marcus, so I hope we

453
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: see him for a while. They keep cutting though to

454
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 3: back at the house. Oh wait, no, I'm I'm trying

455
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: to remember when we were jumping back to Aaron and Devon.

456
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: Erin and Devin were just sprinkled through this whole episode.

457
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: But then we go to group day number two, which

458
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: is the Wildlife photo shoot. Yeah, funny, this was a

459
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: really funny day. I liked it overall.

460
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: Me too. Uh.

461
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: My favorite guy was the spider guy. Yeah, he was

462
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: so but you know what from shan Berg, Illinois.

463
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: He was so brave. I loved him so much. I

464
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: would also not want to have a spider like that

465
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: in my body. When they were like, oh, by the way,

466
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna try to crawl up your neck, I

467
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: was like, how about we find a way to make

468
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: that not happen. I'm sure there's ways to prevent that.

469
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm certain there are options to have it not crawl

470
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 3: into his face. Oh so gross.

471
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would. I probably would if.

472
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: I was him, I probably would have been like, nah,

473
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.

474
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm not good. But he I really I thought he

475
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: hated it while I thought he was so.

476
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: I thought he was very funny, very personable. I watched it,

477
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I like him.

478
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 3: And we didn't talk about him much after night one.

479
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: But he was the guy that came in with all

480
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: the balloons on his back. He came in with a

481
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: big personality, and yeah, he was definitely the highlight of

482
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: this group day for sure.

483
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: Everyone else got these like cute little furry animals.

485
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: Well, no, well, what's his name? Who ends up getting

486
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: the one on one?

487
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 3: Dylan?

488
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: Dylan? I mean he did that was a massive snake.

489
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: Okay, but he did it by choice. Okay, but still

490
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: I'm assuming he would not have volunteered to have the

491
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: spider on him.

492
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you have volunteered.

493
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: The spider on me?

494
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have the snap, I.

495
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Would take the snake over the spider for sure. Really yeah,

496
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: I think really, you take the spider.

497
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't want either of them, but I've.

498
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: Done the snake thing when I was a kid at

499
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: some like Christmas party at my dad's old office. I

500
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: remember they had like a reptile situation going on and

501
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: they had a snake there.

502
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: What's a more intense dangerous bite?

503
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: It depends, Yeah, I guess it depends. But I don't

504
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: think the snake was venomous. You're I don't think they're

505
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: gonna wrap you up in a poisonous snake.

506
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: No, they're not going to.

507
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: But I think the snake, but you never know.

508
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: If the snake is frustrating snips.

509
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: It was a really good snake noise.

510
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: Thank you.

511
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: But alas Hakim does not get the extra time. It

512
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: goes to Dylan, who we also love. Dylan goes to

513
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: get his one on one night portion with Jen, and

514
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: the rest of the guys sadly stroll back to hotel.

515
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about this. The Dylan conversation with

516
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: Jen is fine.

517
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: I feel like I.

518
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: Feel like we're going to see more of him. Yeah,

519
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: down the lines. We don't need to dive into it

520
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: too much. I feel like they connected mostly on like

521
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: family values, and they definitely expressed having a lot of

522
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: similarities and things in common.

523
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't really know if there's a

524
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: connection there, if I'm going to be completely on us

525
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: watching it. The guys come back and Thomas kind of

526
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: leads the pack of like when when like, I'm really upset,

527
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: like this is crap, Like we didn't get any time

528
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: and we're frustrated.

529
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it.

530
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: Was hard to because it was a very structured group date,

531
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: whereas the food Haullwine was a little more like let's

532
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: wander and stroll and chitty chat. So like I feel

533
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: like leaving after the animal photo shoot, I'd be like,

534
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: I really didn't get any time with her today.

535
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like if you watch this show. If

536
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: you watch this show, this happens.

537
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: All the time where a group of people don't end

538
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: up getting time because something happens and their time gets cut.

539
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean it's not frustrating. That happened twice

540
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: on our season. Actually, okay, it happened on the first

541
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 3: group date where half the people went home, and then

542
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: it happened close to the end, closer to hometowns, where

543
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: half the people got sent home, but then they ended

544
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: up surprising them and bringing them.

545
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: So but it's not your it's not your job or

546
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: your responsibility or your fucking choice to really come in

547
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: the house and be like, hey, us eight guys didn't

548
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: get time, we're going.

549
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: First, because that's fair. Well, the show's not.

550
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Like the contestants don't like unionize and like organize themselves,

551
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: like this is a show like time when you get.

552
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: Time and at the end of the day, it's a competition,

553
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: Like it's about like falling in love and ending up

554
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: with the lead.

555
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: It's not about like yo, like, boys, we got to

556
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: respect each other, Like you can respect you can respect.

557
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: Each other, but you are also fit your character.

558
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are also still competing. I don't know.

559
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: I just to me it was the first time I

560
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: think we've ever even seen that on a show where

561
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: it's like yo, like you let us have our time,

562
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know, just not really.

563
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 3: I was in their shoes. I go back to my

564
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: room with my roommate, and I'd be like the balls

565
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: on those guys to ask me to sit back for hours?

566
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Will they all get time? That's kind of like Dicky,

567
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: But I'm definitely not going to be one of the

568
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: first three four guys to talk to her because I

569
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: don't want to seem like a total jerk. At the

570
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: same time, if it was like, hey, you can talk

571
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: to her right now, or you don't get talked to

572
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: her for the rest of the night, I'm obviously gonna

573
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: take it.

574
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about this. Let's say you're one of

575
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: the guys on the first group tape and you exchanged

576
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: two sentences with Jen before you take it.

577
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: And feel like she barely knows you, and now Aaron

578
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: or Devin more so Aaron, I'd be like, my chat

579
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: wasn't that long and it was shadowed by all this drama,

580
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: Like I need the time too.

581
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm gonna sit back and wait for you

582
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: guys because you're frustrated, Like no.

583
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, And like I think, I don't know it's

584
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: it is a fine line because I don't disagree with

585
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: the like, let's be respectful of these guys. They had

586
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: a hard night, they lost their time. Let's, you know,

587
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: make sure that they get their chance. But at the

588
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: same time, like.

589
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's not as I don't I don't think it's

590
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: a respects well, it's just consideration.

591
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's what I don't agree.

592
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: With you dot feel like they have to give any concering.

593
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be considerate in this moment.

594
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it felt like they wanted to sit down

595
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: and write out a list of names like so and

596
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: so goes number one, and then Thomas goes number two,

597
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: and then you know, Spencer goes number three, and it's like,

598
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: that's just really not how this show works.

599
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: Like here, if I if I now you're only like

600
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: a few days in with these guys too, But if

601
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm rooming with one of the guys right and him

602
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: and I are becoming friends and I got time with

603
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: Jen and he's like, hey, I think any time you

604
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: care if I go in front of you, I'd be like,

605
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: I actually don't care. But if the opportunity comes for

606
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: me to do it first, and like you're not around,

607
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm taking that.

608
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fair Yeah. And it's like I like, it's kind

609
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: of like every man for themselves, and.

610
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: This thing is I would not be the person to

611
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: stand up and pull the lead first. You're really you're

612
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: I guess you are putting a target on putting a

613
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: target on your back. Like it's one thing to be like,

614
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: hey can I steal her? You've been chatting for a

615
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: little bit. You know, I know not all eight guys

616
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: have gone yet, but like I want my time. It's

617
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: another thing to be like I'm going to jump up

618
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: and steal her first. It's like the same thing I

619
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: said about Devan before with like the ice cream, Like

620
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he minds if not, I think he

621
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: like maybe likes being a bit of.

622
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: A star shit star.

623
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely I do agree with that. Okay, So

624
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: then this is where we see the air in Devin conversation.

625
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: We'll touch it briefly on this because we I feel

626
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: like we've talked a lot about them. But the funny

627
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: thing about this is, if you do remember.

628
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: There's actually two more things that we really got to

629
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: get into.

630
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: If yeah, because if this like if you do remember

631
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Tasha Claire's season, there was a guy Bennett and Noah

632
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: who is Aaron's twin brother, where the guy Bennett basically

633
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: gave Noah a book on emotional intelligence, and now Noah's

634
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: twin brother is giving a book about emotional intelligence or

635
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: whatever it was about.

636
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: It was.

637
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: It was called I wrote Principles of Self Growth. Yeah,

638
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: like to me, like and it was so crazy because

639
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: it was such a callback to what happened with Noah

640
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: and Bennett. But to see Aaron in Bennett's position, Yeah,

641
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: not Noah's position giving the book.

642
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like wo and I I don't know,

643
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: because like he he does come across very genuine Aaron,

644
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: and I do like, I don't know if he did

645
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: it in a way of like.

646
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he was trying to be a malicious

647
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: I actually don't. I don't think like Ben did it

648
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: in a way that was like sassy. I don't think

649
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Aaron was trying to be like you need to work

650
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: on yourself, like you suck. I think he was, but

651
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: that's kind of how it came across. There's really no

652
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: nice way to say, like, hey, you need some self growth,

653
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a book about it to

654
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: someone that you don't know, fairy.

655
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah. I think I think that's where it is.

656
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: That's Devin's biggest issue.

657
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's fair. It's like, dude, we

658
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: really like have known each other for under a week,

659
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: like you.

660
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Don't know me.

661
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Aaron's saying a lot of things like and

662
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: look to Aaron's defense, like you spend a lot of

663
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: time with these people. You're with them twenty four to seven.

664
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how many conversations they've had. Maybe they've

665
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time talking. But Aaron has developed

666
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: his opinion of Devin to be someone that is not

667
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: a very deep person and is more of a boy

668
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: than a man, and obviously the book is insinuating that

669
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: he believes he could work on himself to better himself.

670
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: When I saw the book come out, I was like, Okay,

671
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: well now we know moving forward that Aaron and Devin

672
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: will never get along.

673
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: No.

674
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: I don't think they're just not going to get along,

675
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: it's only going to escalade.

676
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: They are the Maria and Sydney of Jen's season.

677
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: And outside of this conflict, they are so different as

678
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: people at their core from what we've seen, like they

679
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: appear to be just I would knowing if I knew

680
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: both of them outside the show, I would never really

681
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: expect them to vibe. Yeah, they're super different people. But yeah.

682
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: And then Aaron slips up and he calls Devin Dylan yeah,

683
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: which is obviously just a total accident, but Devin uses

684
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: that to his argument of like, you don't even know

685
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: me to the point where you're like messing up my name.

686
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: How do you feel comfortable sitting here saying that I'm

687
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: not a deep person. So the whole conflict was just great,

688
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: not great overall, these two just are not going to

689
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: be friends. They don't need to be friends. They should

690
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: just avoid each other. But you know, getting to the

691
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: rose demmony because we're running out of time, Devin pulls

692
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: her first, which pisses off a lot of the guys,

693
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: specifically Thomas, our friend Thomas, who was here last week. Yeah,

694
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: go check out our interview with Thomas. Tell me what

695
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: you thought about this interaction of Thomas interrupting Devin and

696
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: Jen's time to pull Devon into like literally the hallway,

697
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: like not even down the stairs, into the front yard,

698
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: like right around the corner from Jen and kind of

699
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: reco one.

700
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we interviewed Thomas first, who was the first

701
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: guy we've interviewed on this podcast, and I do really

702
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: like nice guy.

703
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: This was maybe one of the worst moves I've ever

704
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: seen on the show. Yeah, how do you think this

705
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: makes you look? On top of the fact that you

706
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: don't you.

707
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: Don't deserve the conversation, Like you don't you don't deserve

708
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: the time. First just because you didn't get time. And

709
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: I actually this is where I was like, I really

710
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: now I'm really starting to see who Jen is. And

711
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I really I really like her because she had what

712
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: she said was like, you took.

713
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: Away my independence. This isn't your that's not your choice

714
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: to make. This is my choice. This is my show.

715
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm the fucking lead. And that's why I was like, Okay,

716
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: nice and that's just the truth.

717
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like, I actually think there was something good

718
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: about this because the conflict kind of pushed her deeper

719
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: into being the baucherette early on, and I think she

720
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: almost like needed that, or we needed that as viewers

721
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: to really see her like step into that role.

722
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if she would have just kind of like

723
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 2: zap back and be like, oh, like whatever, it would

724
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: have kind of been like, oh, this show, this is

725
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: gonna be a shit show because the guys are just

726
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: gonna run loose with this. Yes, and we're all it's

727
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna be basically twenty four to seven conflict the entire sey.

728
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's clearly locking it down. Thomas does Saylorter

729
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: in the episode that he's a pretty emotional guy. To me,

730
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: this seemed like this was not the first thing that

731
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: Devin did to piss people off. This is not the second,

732
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: this is not the third. He's done a few things

733
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: at this point that have aggravated the guys. Thomas got

734
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: really heated, and I think he just thought, like, I'm

735
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: gonna be the voice of the people here and go

736
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: let Devin know that, like this is not okay and

737
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: you can't act like this. But his method was not

738
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: it Like he should have waited until Devin and Jen

739
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: finished speaking, or just gone and like stolen her, Like

740
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: you walked all the way up there. Why didn't you

741
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: just like, hey, can I steal her now? Can I

742
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: have my time?

743
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Like?

744
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: And if he was like no, then you say, look, Devin,

745
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: you got a lot of time with her. I didn't

746
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: get any time with re esterday. Would you mind just

747
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: letting me and some of the other guys have some

748
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: time now? And that's that. He could have literally had

749
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: like a really nice conversation with Jen right then and there,

750
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: but he decided to use that time to scream at

751
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: Devon in front of Jen. He also could have waited

752
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: till later in the night when him and Devon were

753
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: both free.

754
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: I pulled him aside and I don't have an issue

755
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: with him calling at either. It's just it's just like

756
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: there's a time and.

757
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: A place, yeah, you. And the truth is he.

758
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Actually wrote down okay, and he's saying that like he

759
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: basically is also calling out Devan. I'm for saying, like,

760
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: you're not a man of.

761
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Your word like you said you would let us do it,

762
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: and his words for Batim war, I'm not gonna fall

763
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: back to the end of line, but you guys deserve

764
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: a little more time. Yeah, But that's not him really,

765
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically not him agreeing. Yeah.

766
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Like I if he said that to me, I'd be like, okay,

767
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: Dick had you're not gonna You're not gonna agree to this, yea,

768
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: And now I no, I.

769
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Know then Thomas did say, you know, we agreed that

770
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: Spencer whoever it was, was gonna go to pull her first.

771
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if there was like more extensive

772
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: conversations hot about guess, And I mean, who knows, maybe

773
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: Devin never really fully committed to this and people just

774
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: assumed he did. But either way, it was a bull move.

775
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: Everyone's saying, you know, we're gonna let one of those

776
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: guys pull her first, and he did like he's stepping

777
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: on people's toes, especially when you got a lot of

778
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: time on the group day. Yeah, but at the end

779
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: of the day, he's still there and Thomas is still there.

780
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: Devin did say a line of I see all the

781
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: roses in my lap, like he's like, I don't like

782
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: basically saying like I don't even care about this rose,

783
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: like I'm getting all the roses, like I see myself

784
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: at the end with Jen.

785
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I And I've basically been pretty much

786
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: pro Devin this this entire recap, but he is also

787
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: starting to give me like you're like, everything's about Jen.

788
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: But is everything about Jen? Or is this a competition?

789
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. He's got to be careful. Yeah,

790
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: it's not the easiest thing to do, but you got

791
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: to separate the competition with the relationship. And he's kind

792
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: of starting to blur the lines a little bit, saying

793
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: like I see all these roses in my laugh.

794
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: It's like she's even like is she just a trophy

795
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: at this point? Like she's the endgame because like all.

796
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: These guys are against you, and now you feel the

797
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: sense of like I'm gonna prove them wrong. Screw these guys.

798
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: They're roasting me at the comedy. They're yelling at me

799
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: in front of Jed like I'm about to get to

800
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: the end of this thing and seal the deal with

801
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: this girl.

802
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah and all of you. Yep.

803
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the energy was giving. I do

804
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: think he likes her. I think they actually have chemistry

805
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: and they have a connection. But it doesn't mean that

806
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: the competitive nature can't like seep into that.

807
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see.

808
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: I think that's a recap. The great thing moving forward

809
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: is Jen decided to keep Aaron, Sevin and Thomas, so

810
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: this little triangle of beef is not going anywhere at least.

811
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm actually totally fine with. I'm down to see this

812
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: play it again next week.

813
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: I was actually sure I really thought she was sending

814
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew Aaron was still fine because I

815
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: still think, like, I don't like, I don't like what

816
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: what Thomas did. I think is like a good reason

817
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: for the lead to send that person home, because but

818
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: what Aaron did not really not yet I don't think

819
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: so to.

820
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Me, what Thomas did, if I was Jen is saying,

821
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: like my time and this conflict is more important than

822
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: your journey to find a husband, and I have no

823
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: problem interrupting your conversation to deal with my like emotional distress.

824
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: But I really don't think he's a bad guy. I

825
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: think he just got like way too heated and he

826
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: needed to like have a drink and talk to Devin later.

827
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have been surprised if Jen was like, look,

828
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: this is just not going to work out. Like that

829
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: was so offside. I've never seen anyone do that before. No,

830
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: maybe like a total wild move, but I'm glad all

831
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: three of them are still here. I also like that

832
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: they're showing a lot of what the other guys are

833
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: saying about it. I'm sure we're not getting like all

834
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: of their one hundred percent candid opinions, but you're kind

835
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: of seeing that, like people don't really fuck with Devin,

836
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: but they also are like, this is just kind of

837
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: who Devin is, so just like let him do his

838
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: thing like he owns it.

839
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: Well, you could tell there's a.

840
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: Group of guys it almost seems like the house is

841
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: somewhat split, and you could tell there's a group of

842
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: guys that are kind of like, hey, like it's really

843
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: about her and not us all being friends and like

844
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: if this guy's going to keep stepping out, like you

845
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: may not like it, but it's like, don't you know,

846
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: hate the game, not the player, whatever the fuck.

847
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: Essentially, it's kind of and I think there's I think

848
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: there's a majority of there's a a group of guys

849
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: that feel that way the game, and then I think

850
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: there's other guys that are kind of like, uh, we

851
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: don't like this. This is bullshit, this isn't fair.

852
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that is That's a recap everyone, Thank you for

853
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: listening to Beat your Happy Hour. Make sure you subscribe,

854
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: tune in. We are going to recap every episode this season,

855
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: and later this week we are going to have Grant on,

856
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: so we are going to talk to him, get to

857
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: know him more and his opinions on everything this going

858
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: on in the house.

859
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't free to subscribe and thanks for listening.

860
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Speaker 1: Bye bye m