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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what? In Happy October.

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Speaker 2: For everybody listening, thank you for coming through all the

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Speaker 2: way to October since the beginning of our first season.

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Speaker 2: October Baseball is here, and we have Ryan Zimmerman as

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Speaker 2: our guest, a World Series champion in twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 2: greatest Washington National of all time.

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Speaker 1: And Dad, he's going to be an incredible guest.

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Speaker 3: Right and today, Jeff, the postseason begins and nothing in

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Speaker 3: the world makes me happier than October Baseball. But before

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Speaker 3: we get to the postseason, we have to put a

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Speaker 3: bow on the regular season because yesterday Monday, the Braves

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Speaker 3: and the Mets played a doubleheader for the ages. That

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Speaker 3: first game was a game for the ages. It was

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Speaker 3: a game for all ages. It's one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: And it was game number one, sixty one, and the

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Speaker 3: this is why Francisco Lindor was signed to all that

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Speaker 3: our friend who you know well is the is the

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Speaker 3: about six times during the game, and one was this

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Speaker 3: they last won in eighty six. And Gus Ramsey, our pal, said,

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Speaker 3: I've never been so exhausted watching a game. It reminded

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Speaker 3: And so that means the Braves and the Mets now

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Speaker 3: for Major League Baseball. Dad.

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Speaker 2: However, at the end of this incredible day for baseball,

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Speaker 2: a doubleheader, one sixty one, one.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two, What an exciting day.

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Speaker 2: At seven pm Eastern Standard time on Monday night, Pete

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Speaker 1: At the age of eighty three.

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Speaker 2: Dad, this is just, I mean, as breaking as our

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Speaker 3: Right, And Pete Rose, of course, is the all time

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Speaker 3: And I'll start off Jeff quickly by personalizing it. The

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Speaker 3: Pete Rose, for good or for bad. You don't have

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Speaker 3: The Oakland A's have left Oakland, and I just want

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Speaker 2: Crazy for Oral to have that mindset and then he

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Speaker 1: What a special story, right.

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Speaker 3: Also, Luisa Rives, who we've had on like every episode

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Speaker 2: What about the game changer of the week. Can I

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Speaker 3: Of us, Jeff, This isn't an exciting month. This is

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Speaker 3: There is nothing, and I mean nothing better than October baseball,

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Speaker 2: We have to say with the wildcard round, Dad, that

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Speaker 1: We have to talk about what game you're.

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Speaker 3: Called, right. We're doing the game at two thirty Eastern

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Speaker 3: Well, he is the biggest twelve year old, but he

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a great, great series among many

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Speaker 2: Hey, Dad, so I want to get to our best

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Speaker 3: First base is Albert Pooholz, who hit three home runs

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Speaker 3: to protect a three to two league. So you know,

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Speaker 3: of all the great Mariano Rivera things a five any

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Speaker 3: relief appearance by a starting pitcher and pitched a shutout

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Speaker 3: two nights early, three nights earlier. I think that's got

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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 2: Our Kirchin quandary this week is going to have baseball

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Speaker 2: fans of any organization.

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Speaker 1: Really scratching their heads when it comes to what means

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Speaker 1: the most, Dad, what do you have?

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Speaker 3: Well, since it's October first, I thought we should have

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Speaker 3: a quandary about October baseball involving teams. The Martlins we've

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Speaker 3: chosen nineteen ninety three they debuted. Since then, they have

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Speaker 3: a four to fifty nine winning percentage and they have

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Speaker 3: the third worst record in the Major League. Since they

447
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Speaker 3: debuted in nineteen ninety three, they've lost one hundred games

448
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: four times and bid to the playoffs only four times,

449
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: never finished first in any season, but they won the

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Speaker 3: World Series twice. The question is what team has been

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Speaker 3: more successful? The Marlins I just gave you all the

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Speaker 3: bad and the good, or I'm gonna choose the Guardians

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Speaker 3: here because during that same time frame they've played five

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Speaker 3: thirty one baseball, which is almost one hundred percentage points

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Speaker 3: higher than that of the Marlins, but they've won zero

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Speaker 3: World Series. They've been to the playoffs fourteen times, they've

457
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Speaker 3: never lost one hundred games in a season. They went

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Speaker 3: to the World Series three times, losing each time, but

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Speaker 3: they've never won the World Series. So the question is

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Speaker 3: what franchise has either been more successful or which one?

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Speaker 3: Would you rather be a fan of a team that

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Speaker 3: fails repeatedly but has won two World Series or a

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Speaker 3: team that's been pretty darn good for a long time

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Speaker 3: but hasn't won a World Series.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a really good Kirkshin quandary. So breaking

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Speaker 2: it down here you get the two World Series wins.

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Speaker 2: And this is funny because this is nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 2: You've chosen, which is the year I was born, So

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Speaker 2: I can just reference my lifetime as a thirty one

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Speaker 2: year old to be able to kind of understand how

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Speaker 2: long that has been. And I lived in Cleveland for

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Speaker 2: quite a few years. I was at Game seven of

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Speaker 2: the World Series in twenty sixteen when the Cubs took

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Speaker 2: it from underneath the Cleveland then Indians, and how heartbreaking

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Speaker 2: that was for the fans.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the argument is.

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Speaker 2: Would you take all of the heartbreak in the sense

478
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Speaker 2: of getting so close fourteen times? It's almost half of

479
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Speaker 2: the seasons we're talking about. They're making the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: they're not winning the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, though, I would rather have a competitive

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Speaker 2: team every single year, or at least half the years,

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Speaker 2: or at least competing for a playoff spot every year,

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Speaker 2: then losing one hundred games four times and then only

486
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Speaker 2: making the playoffs four times, so then you're just a

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Speaker 2: mediocre team that's losing a lot. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: a World's Series win out weighs enough time of being

489
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Speaker 2: that bad.

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Speaker 1: For that long.

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Speaker 3: To be completely honest, I would rather be the Indian

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Speaker 3: slash Guardians and be competitive every year because I'm giving

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Speaker 3: my fans something to watch. So we'll leave it up

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Speaker 3: to our best fans and our best listeners and our

495
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Speaker 3: best viewers to see what they think.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: You can chime in right now, follow us on Instagram

498
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Speaker 2: and Twitter a great game or what. Every single week,

499
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Speaker 2: our friends at Stratamatic help us out with the simulation

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Speaker 2: a lot of the times that you ask for.

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Speaker 1: And this one, Dad, you know, you mentioned that.

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Speaker 2: We were going to be bringing up the Chicago White

503
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Speaker 2: Sox once again on this podcast, and this is where

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Speaker 2: they're coming up. Stratamatic market leader in sports simulations. We

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Speaker 2: ask them to take this year's Chicago White Sox team

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Speaker 2: and put them up against arguably the other worst team

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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball history, the nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 3: Two Mets, right of course, went forty and one hundred

509
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Speaker 3: and twenty and the White Sox finished forty one and

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty one. So we decided to put

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Speaker 3: the two worst teams at least most losses certainly in

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Speaker 3: modern Major League history that's nineteen hundred on play them

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Speaker 3: in a seven game series and see how it turns out.

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Speaker 3: So how did it turn out?

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Speaker 2: Well, Stratomatic put it all together for us and we

516
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Speaker 2: got to seven games, Dad, to find out.

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Speaker 1: Which of these teams is truly the worst.

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Speaker 2: Jay Hook pitched a complete game in Game seven and

519
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Speaker 2: Sammy Taylor hit a Grand Slam in the fourth inning

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Speaker 2: to give the Mets Game seven victory, seven to five

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Speaker 2: over the twenty twenty four Chicago White Sox.

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Speaker 3: The White Sox allowed sixty runs in seven games, and

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Speaker 3: even though Luis Robert hit four forty eight in this

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Speaker 3: seven game series, the Mets came back to win. They

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Speaker 3: won games Jeff eighteen to three, and then they won

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Speaker 3: seven to five. Sammy Taylor, who hit three home runs

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Speaker 3: during the nineteen sixty two season, hit the big Grand

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Speaker 3: Slam to win in Game seven. And this is my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Jay Hook Jeff, famous pitcher from the sixty two Mets

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Speaker 3: who went eight and nineteen that season. He pitched a

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Speaker 3: complete game, final score seven to five. What people don't realize,

532
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Speaker 3: I'm sure, is that Jay Hook had thirteen complete games

533
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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty two. Max Scherzer is one of our Warriors,

534
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Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame pitcher, Jeff. He has twelve complete

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Speaker 3: games in his career. Jay Hook went eight to nineteen

536
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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty two with thirteen complete games and pitched

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Speaker 3: a complete game to win the World Series against the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four White Sox.

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Speaker 2: It really is incredible. Big shout out, thank you to

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Speaker 2: our friends at Stratamatic. And if you have a simulation

541
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Speaker 2: you want us to run with them, you can let

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Speaker 2: us know act great or what. Our guest is Ryan

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Speaker 2: Zimmerman today. What an exciting guest we have, mister National

544
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Speaker 2: as we call him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's gonna make us laugh. He's gonna teach

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Speaker 3: us about baseball, He's gonna tell us about October, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna tell us about raising kids.

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Speaker 4: Love.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Zimmerman here.

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Speaker 2: He is right now on is this a great game

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Speaker 2: or what? Welcome back to Is this a great game

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Speaker 2: or what?

553
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Speaker 3: And our guest this week is Ryan Zimmerman, in my opinion,

554
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Speaker 3: the greatest player in the history of the Washington Nationals. Ryan.

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00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: This is my son Jeff. We do our own podcast,

556
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Speaker 3: Father and Son. How great is that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Man. That's got to be a

558
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: blast for you to talk baseball and obviously other things,

559
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: but to have him do it with he's got to

560
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Speaker 4: be pretty special.

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Speaker 3: Of course. And Ryan, we do talk a lot about

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Speaker 3: things other than baseball. So we're going to start with

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Speaker 3: you with basketball. I asked you this morning. When's the

564
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Speaker 3: last time you dunked the basketball? So tell us the

565
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Speaker 3: last time you dunked the basketball and what was what

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Speaker 3: were the circumstances of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, well, a couple of basketball stories. I loved

568
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Speaker 4: playing basketball growing up. I played like aau basketball in

569
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Speaker 4: the Virginia Beach area where there were some pretty good players.

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Speaker 4: So I was probably like the sixth or seventh guy

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Speaker 4: on the team. But you know, I played. I never

572
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Speaker 4: played in high school. I feel like I played summer baseball,

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Speaker 4: and then once high school started, I just didn't want

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Speaker 4: to put the time in. But I love the game

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Speaker 4: so much so that I would play it a lot

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Speaker 4: now that I'm retired. And actually, me and Max Sherzer

577
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Speaker 4: used to use it as like an offseason conditioning and

578
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Speaker 4: we would go to Georgetown and they would let us

579
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Speaker 4: use their gym and we would play anywhere from three

580
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Speaker 4: on three or five on five full court, but it

581
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Speaker 4: was more for conditioning and Max would always guard each

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Speaker 4: other so that we knew nobody would get hurt. You know,

583
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Speaker 4: we played you're not really allowed to contest anything going

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Speaker 4: to the hoop. You know, we didn't want any I

585
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: love boonie, but we didn't want any boonie uh boonie

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Speaker 4: boonie incidents happening. So we did that. And then the

587
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Speaker 4: slam dunk story I was telling you about goes back

588
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Speaker 4: to a fantasy football draft, not this year, but last

589
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Speaker 4: year with my buddies at home from Virginia Beach, and

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Speaker 4: you know, about an hour and a half in, people

591
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Speaker 4: are always ready to talk a little talk, a little

592
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Speaker 4: crap because they've had a couple of beers or something

593
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Speaker 4: like that. And so there was a wager that came

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Speaker 4: up that said I wouldn't be able to dunk anymore.

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Speaker 4: So I said, well, I'm still whatever, six two sixty three,

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Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, well you're you're thirty nine, almost

597
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Speaker 4: forty years old. No way you can do it. So

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Speaker 4: I filmed it and it I will say it took

599
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Speaker 4: me three or four tries because I just the first

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Speaker 4: few I got a little nervous. I didn't know if

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Speaker 4: I could still do it, but uh, but I ended

602
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Speaker 4: up doing it, so yeah, I can still. I can

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Speaker 4: still get up a little bit. You know. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: say I'm as surprise as I used to be, but uh,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, I love the sport of basketball.

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Speaker 4: I love playing it and was happy that I could

607
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Speaker 4: still dunk. But it wasn't it wasn't pretty, but I

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Speaker 4: got it done.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you and Max Schurzer would pair

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Speaker 2: up so you're not you're not going up against a

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Speaker 2: sophomore polycy major or something.

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Speaker 4: Well, and when you play with Max, you know, there's

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Speaker 4: always Max rules, so explain. So like we would, we

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Speaker 4: would go work out and then use that as our conditioning,

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Speaker 4: so we are strength the head strength. I used to

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Speaker 4: live in the area and he used to throw at Georgetown,

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Speaker 4: so either the pitching coach or someone for Georgetown would

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Speaker 4: let him into the facility to do that. So we

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Speaker 4: would have sort of that kind of group, and then

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Speaker 4: if the Georgetown basketball team was in there, maybe some

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Speaker 4: of their student you know, coaches and stuff would join.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes Ewing was watching us play one time because it

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Speaker 4: was before before their practice. But so Max would I

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00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: think we would play to fifteen or gosh, I think

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00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: it was fifteen or sixteen. I think it was sixteen

626
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Speaker 4: because when you got to to eight, you had to

627
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: stop and you had to hit free throws because he said,

628
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Speaker 4: I want people to shoot free throws when they're exhausted

629
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Speaker 4: so that they could mentally see what it's like to

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Speaker 4: try and perform in the clutch. And then like the

631
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Speaker 4: only way to the only way to win the game

632
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Speaker 4: was to hit your free throws at the end of

633
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Speaker 4: the game. And then obviously whoever lost had to do

634
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: suicides or something like that. It's just such a It

635
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 4: literally kind of just wraps Max up in a nutshell

636
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: in a game of pickup offseason basketball that he then

637
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: has seven weird roles that somehow ultimately probably help him

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Speaker 4: win the game. And he always had always had special

639
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: rules for him, and we used to call him Max

640
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: Madeoff because he would win. He would win everything he did.

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Speaker 3: So none of this surprised you from Max.

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, I mean I went into it expecting, right,

643
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: expecting some of this, but you also he always he

644
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: also because of that makes everyone around him better, better

645
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: compete more, and at the end of the day really

646
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: want to win because they don't want Max to win.

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Speaker 4: So like that's the kind of person he was, like

648
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 4: obviously on the field, but like literally everything he did,

649
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: that's what he would do, and he it was annoying sometimes,

650
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 4: but it makes everyone around you better.

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Speaker 3: So the same guy who's snorting and snarling on the mound.

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Speaker 3: That's him on the basketball court in three on three,

653
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: five on five in the off season.

654
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like when we didn't I'll be honest, when

655
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: it was the three on three and we're running, I

656
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: mean we're running full court because we're doing it just

657
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: for conditioning. So it was it was quite the workout,

658
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: but it was you know, it's obviously I'm telling the

659
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: story now. It's something I'll never forget. But we we

660
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: had a blast doing it, and uh, you know, it

661
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: made me remember how much I love love basketball.

662
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: How's your fantasy football team doing. Are you still in

663
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: the league with your boys?

664
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do. I do a league at home with

665
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: my Virginia Beach buddies. I do a league yet with

666
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: my UVA buddies that I played baseball with, and those

667
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: are both like kind of keeper leagues where it's more

668
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: just for keeping in touch and you know, smack talk

669
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: and things like that. And I do one real league

670
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: with like some some older baseball guys like Hinsky and

671
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: the Upton brothers and McCann and Hudson and a few others,

672
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: so that one that's a little bit more serious.

673
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: I would say yeah, of that group, who would you say?

674
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: And if it's you, don't be humble. Is the best

675
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: fantasy manager?

676
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: Oh man? I think being the best fantasy manager is

677
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 4: about just being kind of lucky. Whoever like has their

678
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: injuries exactly, like whoever's first four picks stay healthy for

679
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: the most part, I feel like is in a good chance.

680
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: And there's always the one or two guys that people

681
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: pick up off the waiver wire, like the running back

682
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: for the Rams last year that basically won the league.

683
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 4: For people, I just love love it because it keeps

684
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: everyone together. I mean, all of us are in the

685
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: same kind of you know, time frame in our lives

686
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: where a bunch of us have kids, a bunch of

687
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: us are so busy and it's hard to keep in touch.

688
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: And this makes you, you know, communicate and makes you,

689
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 4: at least every weekend kind of feel free to reach out.

690
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: So I love it because it keeps people in contact

691
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: during these busy times of our lives. And you know,

692
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: obviously competition always always makes things a little bit better.

693
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: Right, Do you have a name for your fantasy team?

694
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: Usually try and use a team like a player to

695
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: make a team bring But like the last two or

696
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: three years. I've been so lazy and like, like every

697
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: I'll be like, all right, tonight, I'm gonna do it,

698
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: and then by like nine thirty, the kids are just

699
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: now getting to bed. So it's like team Team ZIM

700
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: has been been named for the last the last the

701
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: last few years.

702
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: Let's pivot here to golf. Ryan, how much do you play?

703
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: How good are you? And don't be humble about this either, Uh?

704
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: And how much do you love playing golf now that

705
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: you're retired.

706
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so golf is one of the things that I

707
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 4: escape and do. I play a ton in the spring

708
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: and a ton in the fall. The summer is just

709
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: you know, we're busy, we're traveling, and honestly, it's when

710
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 4: it's ninety five humid here, the last thing I want

711
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: to do is go go walk or play eighteen holes

712
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: of golf. But now when the kids are back in school,

713
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: I try and play once or twice a week, and uh,

714
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's fun for me to get out.

715
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: It's it's something I can compete in. And you know,

716
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: I have a good group around here. There's some some

717
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: hockey guys that still live here and we play quite

718
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: a bit and it gives you, uh, gives you something,

719
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: so it's it's fun.

720
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: Is there one player, former player, or celebrity or somebody

721
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: that you've had a chance to play with that really

722
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: blew you away?

723
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you underestimated how good they were.

724
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: That actually just played in the UH the nine to

725
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: eleven first responder program for the Solheim Cup that was

726
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: at RTJ for the Women's Soulheim Cup. I've actually played

727
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: with Ron Rivera, the old coach of the Commanders and

728
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: the Panthers obviously you know legend in the NFL. UH

729
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: and we each played with a first responder and we

730
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: played nine holes, but you teed off, you know, on

731
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 4: the first hole, and it was we played on Wednesday

732
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 4: and it started on Friday, so everything was set up

733
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: and there was there weren't a lot of people, but

734
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: the most people I've ever played with in front of

735
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: and you know, I told him I wish I had

736
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: one of those whoop bands or the heartbeat monitor on.

737
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: When I stepped up, I was trying to put the

738
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: ball on the shoot, you know, and everyone's like, why

739
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: do you get nervous? You used to play in front

740
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 4: of fifty sixty thousand people, and you know, I say,

741
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: it's just it's something that people assume you're going to

742
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: be good at. So you think you're going to have

743
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: to like go up there and be a PGA player.

744
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: But so I guess as as athletes always put so

745
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: much pressure on ourselves to be good at it. But

746
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 4: but yeah, we do that. I'd play. I play with

747
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: tj Ochi and Nick Bax from a bunch to the

748
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: old retired well kind of retired Caps. We're all we're

749
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: all around the same, so we have some good matches

750
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: and there's some great courses to play around here.

751
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: Right, Ryan, Baseball players are really good golfer, so are

752
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: hockey players. Have you played with someone who just hits

753
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: it off the end of the world that even you,

754
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: who I'm sure hits it a million miles, you look

755
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: at it and go, I can't believe how far that

756
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: guy can hit it.

757
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean those hockey tj Oshi hits it a mile.

758
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: John Carlson, the defenseman that plays for the Caps, still

759
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: hits it, hits it a ton. It's amazing to see

760
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 4: those guys. And it's just my favorite thing about the

761
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: game of golf is it really is the only sport

762
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: that has a system that levels the playing field. So

763
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: whether you're a you know, a low one two three handicap,

764
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: or you're playing someone who's on eleven or twelve, it

765
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: always seems to come down, you know, to one six

766
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: foot putt or one you know, you know the last hole,

767
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: which you know, for me is what I'm out That's

768
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: what I'm out there for. That's what I'm trying to replace,

769
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: is you know, that feeling of you against the pitcher

770
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: when it comes to the end of the game. Honestly,

771
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing you miss when you retire. You

772
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: love playing the game, you love being around the guys,

773
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: but there's really nothing in what I call civilian life,

774
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: uh that can that can replicate, you know, you trying

775
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: to get that game winning hit in the ninth inning.

776
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: I know that T ball isn't exactly getting the heart going.

777
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: But is it cool to have your kiddos in sports?

778
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: What is it like when when Ryan Zimmerman shows up

779
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: to his son's T ball game, rights anybody like, all right,

780
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: sim can.

781
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: You help us out with some tips?

782
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 4: Kids? Well? Yeah, like Henry, we missed his first two

783
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: games because we had weddings to go to. Actually, so

784
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: last Saturday was his first T ball game ever, and

785
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: really my first T ball game ever helping, so I

786
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: really had no idea what to get into what I

787
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: was getting into. And I mean, for they all loved it,

788
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: so I guess that's that makes it the best. Because

789
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 4: I asked Henry, you know, he woke up the next

790
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: day and asked if he had a T ball game

791
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 4: again the next day. I said, nobody. Those are only

792
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: once a week. For that's it's probably best for everybody.

793
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: But they were great. I mean, the hitting off the

794
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: tee was fun. It was more. The funny part to

795
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: me was when they played in the field, and you know,

796
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: it's four guys, four kids in the field, including my

797
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: two and a half year old who came along. So

798
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: Henry's out there he's four, and then Benjamin's two and

799
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: a half, and it's just someone barely hits the ball

800
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: off the tee and then it's four or five kids

801
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: running and converging in the ball at the same time.

802
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: It looked like like an on site kicks and more

803
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: than T ball. And then for ten seconds they wrestle

804
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 4: and they try and get the ball, and whoever grabs

805
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: the T ball then just stands up and fires it

806
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: somewhere towards first base and all the parents clap and

807
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: everyone's you know, videotaping, and but you know, it's fun

808
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: for them. And I think that's how you get introduced

809
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 4: to sports.

810
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: All right, Ryan, during the pandemic, I remember talking to

811
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: you and I asked you something like, what's harder to

812
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: do chase three kids around or get a hit off

813
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: of Jacob Degrov at his prime? And I think you said,

814
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: get a hit off da Grov is easier. Now you

815
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: have four kids, what is that like for you? Yeah?

816
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I can confirm baseball is what you do

817
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: it than being home and taking care of four kids.

818
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's uh. I mean you get used to

819
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: it obviously, and you're you're in you get into a

820
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: routine and uh, you know they're in school now and

821
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 4: so but it you know, it's hard. It's a different

822
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 4: type of of grind. And you know, I was such

823
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: such like a type a routine person. And when I

824
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 4: was playing, you know, I would everyone always asking you know,

825
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 4: what your superstition, what did you do when you played?

826
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: And and for me, it wasn't so much a superstition.

827
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: I just like to do things the same every day.

828
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: So if I was late by you know, four or

829
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: five minutes getting ready for the game, you know, So

830
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: I guess my superstition was just kind of I would say,

831
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: doing the same thing every day, but getting ready for

832
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: the game the same way, you know, for seven o'clock

833
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: at four o'clock, at one o'clock, I had, you know,

834
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: a routine that would do. Now, trying to have any

835
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: sort of routine with four kids is about the dumbest

836
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: thing you could try to do. And in Heather and

837
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: my wife, you know, I'm like, you know, the first year,

838
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I'm not like you lose that

839
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: You're either you're either winning or losing. You're you're competing.

840
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: You know, We've talked about that a lot, Like you're

841
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: not winning or losing the day with kids, like you

842
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: don't see you don't see immediate you know, return return

843
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: on investment, I guess you can say. And how she

844
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: has kind of coached me is like, listen, you're you're

845
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: home now. You're home a lot more than a lot

846
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: of other dads are able to be home. You know,

847
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: you might not see it every day, but but the

848
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: kids are never going to forget kind of you being

849
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 4: home in this stage in their life. But Heather's Heather's

850
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: kept me in check and kept me, kept me grounded,

851
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 4: I guess is the best way to put it.

852
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know you brought up your wife, Heather. You

853
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: got married at the Melon Auditorium in Washington, d C.

854
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: And my sister got married in the same place, which

855
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: is just crazy. Yeah, and four dads still recovering from that,

856
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: and that was back in twenty nineteen, right, Ryan, Do.

857
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: You have any money left from the wedding, because I don't,

858
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: it's all gone.

859
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: You know, my wife was actually born in d C.

860
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: So she has she's like, has DC on her birth certificate,

861
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 4: which is pretty cool, which a bunch of people around

862
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 4: here aren't born here. That's such a transient city. All

863
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 4: of our kids were born in DC as well, so

864
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: that she was like, you know, we need to get

865
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 4: married in the city. So we, you know, I say we.

866
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: She looked around at venues and settled on that one.

867
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: And I've said this so much. I mean, DC is

868
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: such a cool city. You know, there's things you can

869
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 4: do there that you can't do anywhere else in the world.

870
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: I've said a bunch of times too. At night. I

871
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: would drive home from games sometimes and instead of taking

872
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: the highway home, I'd go down Constitution and you know,

873
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: on a Wednesday night at midnight, there's basically nobody out there,

874
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: and you got the windows down in the car and

875
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: you're looking at museums and monuments and the White House

876
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: and so to be able to kind of get married

877
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: right there on Constitution. The city has become such a

878
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: big part of my life, and Heather grew up here,

879
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 4: so it's it's a huge part of our family's life.

880
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: But but yeah, the melon is uh. Now, every time

881
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 4: we drive by it, our kids say, that's where you know,

882
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: that's where mom and dad got married and all this stuff.

883
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was Obviously it's a night you'll never forget.

884
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: And yeah, hopefully you recovered, Tim.

885
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: I feel bad for you now I have recovered well

886
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 3: all right, before we get to real baseball, Ryan, again,

887
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: these are the things that I collect because I have

888
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: nothing else to do with my life. But you have

889
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: the most career home runs of anyone whose last name

890
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: begins with a Z. Now, I know that's totally worthless,

891
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: but guys like me love stuff like that. Are you

892
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: aware of that? And do you feel even better about

893
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: yourself today since I told you that?

894
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I think I was aware,

895
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 4: but I just that's just that's just smart. I mean,

896
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: if I have a last name of S or T

897
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: or you know, it's a you know, I guess me

898
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: like w Z Y you probably But those are the

899
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: those are the groups you want to be a part of.

900
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 4: Anytime you can be, you know, the leader of anything

901
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: in MLB. I think you definitely have to take it

902
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 4: and run with it. But uh, yeah, I actually someone

903
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: told me that a couple of years ago and I

904
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: looked it up. But yeah, it's a it's a good, good,

905
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: good thing to have on your on your resume.

906
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: Right, And here's how pathetic I am. And you became

907
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: the all time Z and Chase Utley became the all

908
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: time You within like a three week period, and I went,

909
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, we have two changes of the guard here.

910
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 3: And everyone's looking at me like, what's wrong with you?

911
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: But I love that stuff.

912
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: So I grew up in the DMV, Right, I grew

913
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: up in Gaithersburg, Maryland.

914
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm currently in spirit of this interview.

915
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm rocking the sweatshirt I bought shortly before the twenty

916
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: nineteen World Series. I was actually living in Las Vegas

917
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: at the time, flew back to go see games.

918
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: At Nationals Park.

919
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: Now, obviously you remember zero wins at National Park and

920
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: you win all the games on the road.

921
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: So all my buddies growing up were like, can they

922
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: please win a game?

923
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: And then they win the World Series and it was

924
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: great and it was amazing. I also had the opportunity

925
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: to go to the first ever Nationals game at RFK Stadium,

926
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: and then I was at when Nationals Park opened up.

927
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not making this about me.

928
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: You hit a walk off home run in the first

929
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: ever game at Nationals Park. Talk about christening a ballpark.

930
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: Is that a pretty cool feeling for you to know

931
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: that you have that under your belt.

932
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I think a lot of things

933
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: about my career has been kind of It's almost crazy

934
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: how it all worked out. I mean, I grew up

935
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 4: in Virginia Beach, went to UVA, got drafted by the Nationals,

936
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: came into an organization that was basically rebuilding. You know,

937
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 4: who knows if I would have been in the big

938
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: leagues as soon as I was, if I was with

939
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: a different organization. It's just funny how all these things

940
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: seem to happen. And you know, you see a lot

941
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: of stories like that in sports, and that's to me,

942
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 4: what's so awesome about all sports is that the stories

943
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: and you know the people that are involved in it,

944
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: and you know that night it's funny. I remember, I

945
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: obviously remember that at bat. I remember lots of it

946
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: bats and I could tell you every pitch when I'm

947
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: sitting there looking at the computer screen what it's going

948
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: to be, you know, O one oh one one. But

949
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: that night we were playing the Brain and Peter Morland

950
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: was pitching, who is one of the best humans on

951
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: the face of the planet, by.

952
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: The way, unbelievable.

953
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: And mccam was catching, who I became really good friends

954
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: with because we sort of came up around the same

955
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: time and played against each other for years. And Peter Mullen,

956
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: if you go back and look at the abbat the

957
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: first pitch was like a fastball, I'll say, right down

958
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 4: the middle. It might have been a little low in

959
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: the strike zone, not low out of the strike zone,

960
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: and the I forget who the umpire was, but he

961
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: baled it and I kind of took it and I

962
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: heard ball and I was like, oh man, And I

963
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 4: looked back at McCann and like he kind of he

964
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know where that's at. So like,

965
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: but it's funny because because that pitch like completely turned

966
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 4: the bat from me. So instead of being down one

967
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: against Peter Moreland, who throws a heavy sinker and then

968
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: has a slider that you have to worry about as

969
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 4: the right handed hitter, but he's more the sinker guy.

970
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: So now I'm one. Oh, And I said, oh one,

971
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, I'm just selling out

972
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: for that that singer that I just saw. I basically

973
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: got a free look at it so I could see

974
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: what it was going to do. And then obviously the

975
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: next pitch is when I when I hit the home run.

976
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: But those are the kind of things that you dream

977
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: about and want to be a part of. And you know,

978
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: I always say, I, you know, the walk off I'm

979
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: runs and the game winning hits and all that, Like

980
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: you know, everyone says, oh, how do you have so

981
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: much success in those situations? And I said, well, if

982
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: you look at the numbers, I don't know if I

983
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: had that. I just I got out plenty of times too.

984
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing is I think you

985
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: have to want to be in those situations. And I

986
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 4: got a chance to do the one of the UVA

987
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: commencement speeches this year, and I was scared to death

988
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: and it took me two months to write it. But yeah,

989
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I going to tell these kids

990
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: that now have a college degree of which I don't have?

991
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: And I'm to be giving these guys advice. But but

992
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: one of the things was sort of that part of

993
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: my career is I was known as getting walk off kids.

994
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: And I said, I didn't really have a great plan

995
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: or anything. I said, the only thing is I wanted

996
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: to be in that situation. I would rather be in

997
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: that situation with a chance to win the game and

998
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: fail than not have a chance to win or lose

999
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: the game.

1000
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Ryan, So October baseball is upon us, and you have

1001
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: quite a bit of experience in October baseball. When you

1002
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: talk about that mentality, What are these players feeling right now,

1003
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: especially some of the younger guys who might be doing

1004
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: this for the very first time.

1005
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's there's nothing like October baseball. And you know, we,

1006
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: like you said, we had a lot of experience in October.

1007
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: A lot of it was never passed their first round, unfortunately,

1008
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 4: but I think all those failed experiences led us ultimately

1009
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 4: to twenty nineteen. And very rarely do you see a

1010
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 4: team or a core group of guys on a team

1011
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 4: get to the playoffs and make a run to the

1012
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: World Series or win the World Series that first time.

1013
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 4: In October. Baseball is just so much different than regular

1014
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: season baseball. I mean, everything's magnified. You know, you have

1015
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 4: to take advantages of the mistakes. You know, if a

1016
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: starting pitcher gives up three or four runs and two innings,

1017
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: they're out of the game. So it's just such a

1018
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 4: different animal in the postseason. But I think the coolest

1019
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: thing about the twenty nineteen run was, you know, being

1020
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: in the first round, however many times it was. Before

1021
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: we got past the first round, you kind of see

1022
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: the media and you know, the concentration of the focus

1023
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: on your series in that first round. And then we

1024
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: finally got past the first round. In the second round,

1025
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: it gets a little bit more and then you keep

1026
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: going and then you get to the World Series, and

1027
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: I just thought the World Series was the greatest stage

1028
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: you walk out for the first time when you're taking

1029
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 4: VP and you're like four people deep from third base

1030
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 4: to first base around the field of media and people

1031
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: there to watch VP, and I just remember walking out

1032
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: there and being like, holy cow, this is like the

1033
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: coolest thing I've ever done. You know, this is why

1034
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 4: you work, this is what you this is what you

1035
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 4: want to get to. And I'll never forget that night

1036
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 4: in Houston looking at the big out of town scoreboard

1037
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 4: in left field there and seeing only the one game

1038
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 4: and like I get like goosebumps, like talking about it now,

1039
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: but like like you're the only game in the world

1040
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: of baseball that matters, like on this night. It's just

1041
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: a really really cool feeling that night.

1042
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: And what was the feeling like when you won the

1043
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: World Series? Did you cry?

1044
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: Who did you call?

1045
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: What was that?

1046
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: Like? Yeah, I mean I'll that that inning, you know,

1047
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: I think we were up three, four, four runs something

1048
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: like that, and you know, we got one out and

1049
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: then and I've been I played for a long time,

1050
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: so I got and I enjoyed talking to people on

1051
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: the field. I you know, I'm relaxed on the field.

1052
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: Everyone's like, how you talk to this person that person?

1053
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: And I made pretty good relationships with all the umpires,

1054
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: and I'll never forget we got the first out and

1055
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: I turned to the umpire and he's like, hey, Zim,

1056
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: congrats man, Like, you know, couldn't happen to a better person.

1057
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you. And I'm like, dude, there's

1058
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: one out, Like what what are you doing? You know, like,

1059
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 4: you know, the the superstitious baseball person like really kicked

1060
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: in and like and he's like, dude, you're fine, Like

1061
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: I just wanted to do it before it happened because

1062
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: it's going to be crazy, and like, you know, so

1063
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: I remember that, and then obviously Howdy strikes out Brantley

1064
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: and and I just I, you know, from there it

1065
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: gets a little cloudy. You just kind of like, you know,

1066
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 4: you work so hard to get to that point. And

1067
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: then I remember running over and me and Rendon jumping

1068
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: and hugging each other like basically like what my son's

1069
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: tea ball? So I guess we reverted all the way

1070
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: back to the beginning. The ride with that team was

1071
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: so crazy, and you know, everyone was like, oh, did

1072
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 4: you go party that night? Did you go? And once

1073
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 4: you finally like calmed down and went inside you were

1074
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: just mentally exhausted from that run because every single pitch,

1075
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: especially in the playoffs and of course in the World Series.

1076
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: I mean you were locked in on every single pitch

1077
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: to the point where by like midnight or one o'clock

1078
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: that night, I was probably the most tired I've ever

1079
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: been after a baseball game.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, last question for you, I just want

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: to hear just because you know, we have a couple

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: of these guys you had the opportunity to play with

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: that are still in the game and going to be

1084
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: experiencing some October baseball. Jan Soto Trey Turner specifically, who

1085
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: were on that team back in twenty nineteen. Give us

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00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: a little bit on these two guys, because from the

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00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: outside looking in as a fan, Wow, they're both incredible

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: athletes and you were teammates with them.

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Speaker 1: What sets them apart?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the two of the greatest players in

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00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: our game right now, I think, and it helps that

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: they're probably two of the best people as well. I mean,

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00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: you know, we'll start with one. I think you can't

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: watch him play and not smile, I think, because that's

1095
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: all he does, you know, and you know, he just

1096
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 4: works hard. I mean, the story about him wanting to

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00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: learn English and learning English in less than a year,

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00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: and you know, they're saying, you can have a translator

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00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: in your interviews, and he's saying, you know, no, the

1100
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: only way I'm going to learn is go out there

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 4: and speak English and do it. And like, I tell

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: that story because that's him. You know, if he's going

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: to do something, he's going to work, he's going to

1104
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: perfect it, and he's going to go out and do it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, anything from learning English to being arguably

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: the best hitter on the planet. And then Trey is

1107
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 4: probably one of the most exciting exciting players on the

1108
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: field at all times. You know. The one thing I

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: will say about both of them is their baseball IQ's

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: and them knowing how to play the game reminds me

1111
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: of I don't want to sound like an old man,

1112
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: get off my lawn here, stuff like that. But you know,

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: the game has changed a little bit, and we have

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Speaker 4: some of the most talented, athletically gifted people I think

1115
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: that have ever played the game of baseball, you know,

1116
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 4: but I think the baseball IQ and knowing the little

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: the little things, and you know, a lot of a

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: lot of the things that we were taught at a

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01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 4: young age. I think a lot of these kids don't

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: get taught that anymore, and they learn it obviously, they

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01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 4: learned the game. But but Wan and Trey, like Trey

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 4: from the day he came up, was one of my

1123
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: favorite players because he played the game hard, He played

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01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: the game the right way. He never made excuses. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I do play with a broken finger for like the

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: entire season.

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Speaker 3: All right, last week for me, hopefully we'll leave us

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: with a smile. I was doing a gay with Aaron

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01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: Boone in the booth from Seattle like ten years ago,

1130
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: and Ryan Zimmerman sends a text to Aaron Boone during

1131
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: the game and said, tell tell Tim to fix his

1132
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: heads and he looked ridiculous. Do you remember that?

1133
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: So that's one of my favorite things to do is

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: And I'm actually I've been doing some TV now with

1135
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: the Nats, right, so I understand, like, now, how ridiculous

1136
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 4: is the text? People? But like I love like doing

1137
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 4: stupid stuff like that because, like, you know, when you're

1138
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: doing the game every single day, or when you do,

1139
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 4: like you know, something like that that makes you smile

1140
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: and breaks up the monotony of just calling a baseball game, like,

1141
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, that's the To me, that's the coolest thing

1142
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: about baseball is I play with Boonie one or two years.

1143
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: Knew his dad really well because he was with the

1144
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: Nationals organization for a while. But I think that just

1145
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: shows you the game of baseball. Like I'll text Boonie

1146
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: all the time now we're all. You know, they were

1147
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: in town playing the other day and I brought my

1148
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: kids out there because they wanted to meet Aaron Judge

1149
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. And you know, I think there's

1150
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: nothing that really brings people together like playing on a

1151
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: major league baseball team together and to the point where

1152
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: I can feel comfortable enough to text him and tell

1153
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 4: Timmy to fit this nud set on National TV. I

1154
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: mean I was, I'm like Aaron, like, maybe you should

1155
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: have told me you can't let you can't let your

1156
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: good buddy be on National TV like that. That's like

1157
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: the person who doesn't tell you have spinach. That's a

1158
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: terrible friend.

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01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: Well, and Ryan, thank you so much for smiling with

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: us today and having a laugh with us today and

1161
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: share with us today. And we're so thrilled that you

1162
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 3: could still dug it. That is so great.

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't show you. I was in the

1164
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: cold tub for the next two days. Other than that,

1165
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: well we'll leave that part up. But yeah, thanks for

1166
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: having me. It's, you know, as an honor to be

1167
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 4: on with you guys, and so cool to see you

1168
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 4: being able to do this with your son. And yeah,

1169
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 4: thanks for everything you've done for the game toom it's

1170
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: it's pretty cool.

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: Thank you Ryan Zimmerman for being an amazing guest for

1172
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: our October edition of Is This a Great Game?

1173
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 4: Or What?

1174
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: And we will be coming to you weekly, mind you

1175
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: during the playoffs, so just keep up with us if

1176
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: you can during this exciting time in Major League Baseball. Now, Dad,

1177
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: you mentioned and you congratulated Ryan Zimmerman for having the

1178
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: most home runs for a guy with the last name Z.

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: That's the very last letter in the alphabet. Can you

1180
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: give me a through why.

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna run through these quickly, all right? As Hank,

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: Aaron B, Barry Bond, C, Miguel Cabrera, D, Carlos Delgado, E,

1183
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: Edwin and Carnacion, F, Jimmy Fox, G Ken, Griffy Junior H.

1184
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: I love this shared by Frank and Ryan Howard. They

1185
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: have the same last name. Raez is I, Reggie Jackson

1186
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: as Jay K, Harmon, killerbrew el Is, Carlos, Lee m Is,

1187
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: Willie Mays, n Grey Nettles, O, David Ortiz, p Albert

1188
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: pooholz q hard One, Carlos, Quinton, r a Is, Babe

1189
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: ruth S, Sammy Sosa, t Jim Tomy, you the aforementioned

1190
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: Chase Utley V I love this Joey Vado, who finished

1191
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: with three point fifty six his final home run of

1192
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: his major league career, put him past Greg Vaughan for

1193
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: the most homers ever by someone whose last name starts

1194
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: with a v W. Of course, Ted Williams. There is

1195
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,479
Speaker 3: no one named X. No one name X has ever

1196
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: played in the major leagues, let alone hit a homer.

1197
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: Why is Carly Streemsky and z is our guest from

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01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: this week, the great Ryan Zimmerman.

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Speaker 1: Pretty amazing, Dad.

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01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: I love that you came up with that, and I'm

1201
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: glad you could share twenty six other letters with us

1202
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the podcast. So next Tuesday we

1203
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: will have a whole lot to talk about. We will

1204
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: be in the middle of an American League and National

1205
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: League Division series. We're excited don't forget, Dad will be

1206
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: broadcasting the Astros series in Houston with Michael Ka and

1207
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: Todd Frazier, so make sure to be watching that Dad,

1208
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: and enjoy your time in Houston.

1209
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: Jeff, It's October baseball. Nothing, I repeat, nothing is better

1210
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: than that.

1211
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. As always, thank you for being

1212
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: a part of our family.

1213
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: Boy,