1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: are breaking down the news of the weekend and beyond. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Biggest news is. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: That we finally are going to have an end too 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: the incredibly unsuccessful government shutdown that has been going on 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: for forty days. It appears that it will be over 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: officially on Thursday. The shutdown already underway as eight different 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Democrat senators have joined all of the Republican senators. We 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: had to get to sixty in order for that to happen. 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Now. 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the air travel disruption situation, I'm looking at it 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: right now on Fox News, Buck. There are three thousand 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: nearly flights that have been canceled today, over eleven thousand delays, 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: So if you are trying to travel right now, this 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: is frankly a complete mess all over the country. As 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: I think a big part of why we finally got 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: this resolution was because Democrats have recognized one they're not 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: going to get anything accomplished, and two we are now 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: passed the no King's Day and Election in Virginia. But 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: a third part of this is a lot of people 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: were and have become super frustrated overall with everything going 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: on relating to air traffic delays, and so that is 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: where we are positive news. In fact, I believe we 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: have audio from Senator Angus King who went on MSNBC 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: and said, Hey, yeah, by the way, it turns out 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: that the decision to not open the government to shut down. 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Made everything more full as it pertains to all things Trump. 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Can we play that cut from earlier today on MSNBC. 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Please? 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: You have to go back to what the strategy was 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the shutdown. There were two goals, 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: both of which I support. One was standing up to 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. The other was getting some resolution on the 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: ACA premium tax credit issue. The problem was the shutdown 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: wasn't accomplishing either goals, and there was practically, well it 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: was zero likelihood that it was going to In terms 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: of standing up to Donald Trump, the shutdown actually gave 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: him more power, exhibit A being what he's done with 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: Snap and Snap benefits across the country. Oh, by the way, Joe, 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: you're going to love this. Guess who's getting paid during 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: the shutdown? Not the park rangers or air traffic controllers. 45 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: The ICE agents under special law under that big awful 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: bill that they passed last summer. The ICE agents are 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: being paid. Nobody else is. So standing up to Donald 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: Trump did work. It actually gave him more power. 49 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Angus King going on with MSNBC and saying, hey, 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: we've actually ended up in a situation where President Trump 51 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: has more power than he would otherwise. 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Also, by the way, Trump. 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: Is continuing, he is meeting with the new president of Syria. 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Underrated aspect of foreign diplomacy that has not gotten a 55 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: ton of attention was normalizing relations with Syria helped to 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: create more Mid East peace because everybody was lining up 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: against Iran and giving a nod towards the new government 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: in Syria. Helped with the relationships with other Middle Eastern 59 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: countries as it pertains to all of that. Stock market 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: not surprisingly buck up substantially as the government shutdown comes down, 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: and now the big battle has become Democrat senators. Everybody 62 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: is pointing the finger at Chuck sh U. So question 63 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: for you, where does Chuck Schumer go from here? And 64 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: let me give you the scenarios. He's got AOC really 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: after him on the left flank, and that was I 66 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: think a huge part of the motivation for why he 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: decided to allow this shutdown to take place as well. 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: Now eight senators on the right are coming forward and 69 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: saying this is ridiculous. We're not getting anything. We have 70 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: to go back and open the government back up. We're 71 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: getting too much blowback, We're not getting anything. This is 72 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: a negative overall for the party. Where does this leave 73 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer because we play to be a lot of 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: the pressure. 75 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Is he done? Like, how does his career end at 76 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: this point? 77 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer's chief comms guy, Okay, here we go. This 78 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: doesn't look good for Chuck right now. Here's what's going 79 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: to happen though. He's going to go into this next 80 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: year gearing up for the midterms, doing a lot of fundraising, 81 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: a lot of pressing of the palms. What he's gonna 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: say is, guys, I thought I thought you got it. 83 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: You know, you can't have these upstarts like AOC. They 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: don't know the game so important that we take control 85 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: of at least the House in this midterm election. And 86 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: I know, and I'm going to fight in the Senate 87 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 4: and I'm Chuck Schumer. He's created the narrative to allow 88 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: him to go to the you know, ten thousand dollars 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 4: or plate dinners or whatever it is, in order to 90 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: present himself as the resistance against Trump. The people will 91 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: forget and this may sound cynical, but I think it's 92 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: quite obviously true. People will forget that this was much 93 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: ado about nothing, and he will turn it into Oh, 94 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: I stood and fought and we got some concessions out 95 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: of Trump when we were in the minority. Just wait 96 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: till we actually have a majority in Congress. Give me money, 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer. That's the whole thing that's going to be 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: the pitch. 99 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: I think. 100 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: So he's going to create a narrative out of this 101 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: that ignores the truth of what really happened here. The 102 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: best asset that he has, by the way, I feel 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: like that's pretty good for Schumer spokesman. 104 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: Not so much. 105 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. 106 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: I think the best asset that Schumer has is that 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: AOC doesn't actually want to be a senator. That's my 109 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: she wants to be president. I don't think she sees 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: that much difference in being a House of Representative member 111 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: or a senator there is, but I think her aspirations 112 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: are higher here. 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: Senate's an excellent stepping stone, especially for Democrats. That's how 114 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: they always see it. Remember, Democrats like to have senators run, 115 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: We like to have governors run. 116 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So question then in that context, and I don't 117 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: know that anybody's even uh talked about this, Mam Donnie. 118 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: We know he could be governor one day, he could 119 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: be senator one day. That's the apex of his power. 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: You can argue New York City mayor is a higher 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: level of office than senator or governor would be. Is 122 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: there a world where Mom Donnie decides to challenge Chuck 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: Schumer if AOC is running for president and we know 124 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: that Mam Donnie can't run for president because he was 125 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: born in Uganda. I'm just trying to play it out 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: for Schumer. A lot of these results bucked to me 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: end with Schumer not running for reelection next year. The 128 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: problem with that is, what else does Chuck Schumer have 129 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: going on such that he would give up power at 130 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: seventy five or seventy six years old, which is young 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: compared to Nancy Pelosi who went all the way up 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: to eighty five. And again that's depending on who has control, 133 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: because if you're in the minority, that's not necessarily very enjoyable. 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm told from people who you know work day to 135 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: day in the Senate, when is. 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: When is Schumer up? When is his turn next year? 137 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Right? Next year? 138 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: So he's up, So I mean by January or February 139 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: of next year, right, meaning like four months from now, 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: we'll start to find out whether anybody is actually going 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: to primary him or not. I'm not sure what the 142 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: filing deadline is in New York, but he's terrified AOC 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: is going to primary him. My thought is AOC doesn't 144 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: actually want to be senator, although maybe to your point, 145 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: she thinks, hey, I can be SoRs not up. 146 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: For re election next year. 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was up in twenty six. 148 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, okay, he's. 149 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Up in twenty eight. 150 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah he's up in he's up in twenty eight. 151 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: So that's this is but this is all right, now, 152 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: maybe you do want to hire me as Schumer spokesman, Clay. 153 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: He just goes into the fundraising cycle for next year. 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: No one's even good by the time he's up, no 155 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: one's even gonna remember this challenge from his h his 156 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: left flank. I always thought that was a little overblown 157 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: as an explanation for this. I think that they realized 158 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: the real problem is that with Obama, they got to 159 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: shore up the boat is taking taking on water with 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: Obamacare in a big way, and that causes big problems 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: for them on the healthcare front. And twenty and in 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: the midterms, healthcare was the quiet issue. Wasn't really that quiet, 163 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: but healthcare was the issue in twenty eighteen that delivered 164 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: the Democrats a big win. 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly. 166 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: It was healthcare that they said was what was h 167 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: you know, propelling them for forward. 168 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I said in the last hour, I 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: think the issue they could have going forward is they 170 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: may well have created real obstacles for themselves on the 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: only issue that really they show up in a positive vein. 172 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Now I know people, the economy is just it's a 173 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: negative frankly for everybody because there's just a lot of 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: unhappy people, border crime, very positive Trump issues. I think 175 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: the economy by next year is going to be a 176 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: Trump issue if Democrats don't have health care, if a 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: lot of people start to have the conversation that we 178 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: did last Hour where they look around and say, wait 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: a minute. The reason why healthcare companies have increasingly more 180 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: and more power is because the Democrats just gave them 181 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars in handouts. I think a 182 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: lot of people might start to say, wait a minute, 183 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: Democrats have totally screwed this up and Obamacare has made 184 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: everything worse. And I think, to your point, the idea 185 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: with obama Care, honestly, it feels like it's designed to 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: fail so that they can just to your point, say, hey, 187 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: government's got to take over everything otherwise everybody's going to die, 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: which is. 189 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: That was always that was always the opposition to Obamacare 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: from the start was that the way it was constructed 191 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: was destined to fail, but that failure would lead to 192 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: a single payer system, which is Medicare for all, which 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: is what Bertie Sanders is always saying. Which you want 194 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: to talk about out of control costs and blowed in 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: bureaucracy and waiting. I mean, you know, if the government 196 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: is writing all the checks for everybody's health care and 197 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: you have something like this in the UK where the 198 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: government also controls the output of healthcare right National Health Service, 199 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: which means that not only are they paying for it, 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: but they are the deliverers of the product, and the 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: NHS has blown an enormous hole in the UK economy 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: for decades. The whole thing's a disaster. I thought this 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: was interesting, though, Clay that of the eight Senate Democrats 204 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: who have voted to end the shutdown, none of them 205 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: are up for reelection next year. So the thing that 206 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: they have going for, the thing that they all have 207 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: in common, is that they're not facing angry AOC leftists 208 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: next year because it's a it's a pretty wide You 209 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 4: got Dick Durbin out of Illinois. 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Several of those guys too are stepping down buck like 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: Seth Raheen, like they're just they're just waving on their 212 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: way up. 213 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: So these are the Democrats that it's safe for them 214 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: to stop the mat is quartes masto. Nevada, Well, you 215 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: got a purple state there, but she's not up next year, 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: you know, uh to Tim Kaine or Virginia, Angus King 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: of Maine, Jackie Rose in Nevada, Jean Shaheen New Hampshire, 218 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: none of them are up. 219 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting. 220 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: The most vulnerable incumbent in fact is John Ossoff, who 221 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: next year Georgians will be deciding, hey, are we going 222 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: to reelect this guy? There's a primary battle underway to 223 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: figure out who the Republican nominee is going to be. 224 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: He supported this and Georgia you talk about a state 225 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: that is truly up for grabs. All of the elections 226 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: in Georgia have been very close, notwithstanding the statewide when 227 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: that Brian kempad that was so substantial in twenty twenty two, 228 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, in twenty twenty six. 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Gentlemen, 266 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: start at this holiday season, see how you feel by 267 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: springtime talking healthcare, but get some of your calls and 268 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: your thoughts on that. I did think this was interesting 269 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: play because we call balls and strikes here based on reality. 270 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: One of the these days I would say unique selling 271 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: propositions of this show is that we just see things 272 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: that are happening and say what we think or what 273 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: we know to be true about those things. And that 274 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: is in short supply these days in a lot of 275 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: places in the media. And that includes the completely manufactured 276 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: freak out about the Trump ballroom situation, where there was 277 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: a whole week of news cycle where people look, oh, 278 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: my gosh, he's destroying all the history of the White House. 279 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: It's terrible, and anybody who actually knows the White House 280 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: is like, well, it's kind of a dingy area that 281 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: he was getting rid of, and they actually need to 282 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: do something here. And none other than mister Bill Maher, 283 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: who does come hang out with us in Sanityville sometimes 284 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: always well, everyone's always welcome in Sanityville. Here he is saying, 285 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: look the freak out over the trump ballroom. That was 286 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: just nonsense. It's actually a good idea play seven. 287 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 6: I don't give a I really don't give ah. I 288 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 6: was reading it shows you like how the media is, 289 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: everything is always on one side or the other. When 290 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: he first mentioned it, it was like all about, oh 291 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: my god, he's desecrating the White House. Then I finally read, oh, well, 292 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: you know they've done to the white House before. It's 293 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 6: just a building. I think also, like I realized after 294 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 6: reading other people, we don't have a place when they 295 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 6: have state dinners. 296 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: They're doing it in an attent. This is America. 297 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 6: So do I give that he's doing this to the 298 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 6: White House? 299 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I really don't. 300 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, look here. 301 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 6: Always in money, Yeah, you know kind of Newson wants 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 6: to knock it down when. 303 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: He's president and get savior, ire for the things that matter. 304 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: You know. 305 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: That was uncle Bill there. He'll be with us on Thursday. 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: By the way, he had a very strong appearance on 307 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: on Bill Marshaw Bill Riiley. I always enjoy talking to 308 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: to Uncle Bill, but he was weighing in there at 309 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: the end. But Clay, anybody who's looking at the situation 310 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: of the ballroom honestly would say, yeah, actually, this is 311 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: gonna be great for future administrations too. This is a 312 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: smart thing to do. Objectively. 313 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I mean, if you're a history person, 314 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: there have been so many adjustments made, so many renovations 315 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: made to the White House over the years, the Truman 316 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Balcony and everything that Harry Truman did. He basically took 317 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: the White House down to the studs. And what Trump 318 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: is trying to do here is going to benefit every 319 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: administration for a long time to come. And I would 320 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: think just purely from a security aspect, when you consider 321 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: all of the heads of state having to come in 322 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: and out, the difficulties associated with tinting the lawn and 323 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: everything that builds around it, this is just a no brainer. 324 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: And Trump is has decided basically that in a relatively 325 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: short period of time he's going to address everything. He's 326 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: just going to find problems and he's going to solve them. 327 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: I think he was impressed to find out that somehow 328 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: there's not major zoning restrictions on the White House, because 329 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: as a builder, one of the most frustrating things you 330 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: have to deal with is all the different regulatory approvals. 331 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: And he just jumped right in and said, Hey, I'm 332 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: going to solve this once and for all. 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So over the weekend, in addition to many 360 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: other things that were going on, President Trump decided to 361 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: fly Air Force one over the NFL game taking place 362 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: in the DC area between the Lions and they will 363 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Forever be to me the Redskins, and then he went 364 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: to the game as the guest of the Washington Commander's Slash. 365 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: Redskins owner Josh Harris and Bucky decided to go into 366 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: the broadcast booth with the Fox broadcasters, leading to these 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: discussion points, my world's colliding. I'm sitting watching the NFL 368 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: and suddenly. 369 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Trump is in the booth breaking down the game. 370 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: Here he is talking about Joe Namath back in the day, 371 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: Jets and Giants. By the way, the Giants just fired 372 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: their head football coach for those of you out there 373 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: that are WR listeners, long suffering Jets and Giants fans, 374 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: Jets fans especially, and talked to Drew Brees as well. 375 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: Cut nine, We'll take you back to the sixties. You 376 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: got the Jets, got Joe name, he got the cow. 377 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 7: We had a lot of things, a lot of a 378 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: lot of interesting was your team. So I love the 379 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 7: Jets and I love the Giants. I had a lot 380 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 7: of friends Baptish and some people that owned the Giants 381 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 7: at the time. As we're going along and progressing, and 382 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 7: you know, look, we had a couple of Super Bowls 383 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 7: with the Giants. The Jets have been having a little 384 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 7: bit of a hard time. 385 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: What. 386 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 7: He's a great guy. He's a great friend of mine. 387 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 7: Get it together, yeah, take it a little time. Well, 388 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 7: I loved Joe Namath and it was a great talent. 389 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: He had that arm. His legs weren't so good, but 390 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: his arm made up for it. 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 6: Right. 392 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: That's all you need at quarterback. 393 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 7: When you talk about a quick release. He hadn't he did, 394 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 7: by the way. 395 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 4: Was the President Jonathan first round ground pick by the Jets. Wow, 396 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: two thousand and I. 397 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Got traded and the rest is history. I got that. 398 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 7: Beautiful baby right there. 399 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: That's pretty nice and traded, so I know all about it. 400 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: All right then. 401 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: Also Buck, he discussed let's see, they brought up Trump's 402 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: high school football career, put up a picture of him 403 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: from when he was in high school. 404 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Here was cut eleven. 405 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 7: But we had a good time, and I loved it. 406 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 7: I actually loved playing football. 407 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: We had a good time with him. 408 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: So we were trying to look up your stats, and 409 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: we wanted so many touchdowns did you have back then? 410 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure I had any. 411 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 7: Sad a long time ago, but I know at least 412 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 7: you realized that I never tell a lie. Right, That's 413 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 7: very good. I haven't seen that picture. 414 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: Tack and Buck. Culturally, I thought it was impactful. The 415 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions scored a touchdown. Uh, they ended up winning 416 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: the game, blue out Washington. Detroit's got a really good 417 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: football team the last few years, believe it or not 418 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: for long suffering Lions fans. And they did the Trump 419 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: dance on the field and pointed it up to Trump 420 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: in the in the owner suite as a part of 421 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: the celebration. And so it just feels like again culturally 422 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: in Trump one point zero. They would have never thought 423 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: about putting him in the broadcast booth during an NFL game, 424 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: letting him call the game, and then also the players 425 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: on the field doing the Trump dance. Some people might say, Okay, well, 426 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: how does this matter. I do think it's significant culturally 427 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: in the overall impact that it has created both athletes, coaches, owners, 428 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: and even the media networks being more comfortable just embracing Trump. 429 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: The number one comment that I got Clay when I 430 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: reached that nigh impossible goal of one hundred and three 431 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: mile an hour serve as a middle aged man with 432 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: a bad shoulder and a bad ankle, was why didn't 433 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: you do the Trump dance and celebrate? And to that 434 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: I did not have a good response that, in retrospect, 435 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: the only thing that could have made that one hundred 436 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: and three mon hour serve that much sweeter would have 437 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: been a Trump dance right afterwards, the Trump dance iconic. 438 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: It is, and I mean again it's crossed the I 439 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: think it's emblematic and reflective of young men and how 440 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: they have come to see Trump as in some way 441 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: their avatar. And I was having a conversation with somebody 442 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: over the weekend. By the way, thank you for everybody 443 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 2: who bought the book Balls, that is still out in 444 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: stores everywhere. Over a thousand of you got autographed copies. 445 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: Those are headed out to you. But we had this 446 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 2: conversation and I wrote about it in the book. I 447 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: know it's hard to see the world through people's eyes 448 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: that are way younger than you, But for just a moment, 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: imagine that you are a fourteen or fifteen or sixteen 450 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: year old boy. There's almost not a world where Trump 451 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: hasn't been a huge figure in your life. Trump came 452 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: down the escalator back in twenty fifteen, and to a 453 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: lot of us out there, twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five, 454 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: it feels like it passed in the snap of your fingers. 455 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: But I've got a fifteen year old He basically has 456 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: not lived in a world that he can remember where 457 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: Trump is not the signature figure on the entire stage 458 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: of American life. And that has become the case for 459 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: a lot of kids out there. And so for those 460 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: of you who grew up when Ronald Reagan was president, 461 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: or maybe you grew up, you know, when somebody has 462 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: a decent tenure on the stage, maybe it was Bill 463 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: Clinton being president, maybe it was Barack Obama. Those formative 464 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: years can really impact the way that you see the world. 465 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example of this connecting with 466 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: Trump being in the in the press box there Buck 467 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: there was a study that came out recently and I 468 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: read it and I said, you know what, this makes 469 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: total sense, and I bet it will reflect even your experience. 470 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Not even being a huge sports fan. 471 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: They say that you become or don't become a die 472 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: hard sports fan primarily between. 473 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: The ages of eight and twelve. 474 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: You pick your team, you are committed to them for 475 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: the rest of your life. You might live to be ninety, 476 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: but the ages of eight to twelve are so impactful 477 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: in terms of you remember them far better. And I 478 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: think about that now as I get older and I've 479 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: tried to spend as much time with my kids as 480 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: I can. I would encourage you certainly as your boys 481 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: start to get older. Kids remember what they did when 482 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: they were ten way better than they do what happens 483 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: to them at thirty or twenty five. Those formative years, 484 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: if you remember, if you can take yourself back, the 485 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: difference between when you were in fourth grade and fifth 486 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: grade felt huge the oldest in elementary school. The difference 487 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: between seventh and eighth grade, those years in print on 488 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: us in a way that doesn't happen as you become 489 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: an adult. And so I think the positivity associated with 490 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Trump is just now starting to resonate from him being 491 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: on the national stage for ten years. 492 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Think about it, by the. 493 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Time we get to twenty twenty nine, they're going to 494 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: be eighteen year old kids coming out to vote in 495 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight that can't even remember a world where 496 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was not a formative figure in American life. 497 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: And I think that branding that is happening for a 498 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: lot of these young men is connected to Trump, and 499 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: one of the challenges is going to be taking it 500 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: to the next generation in whatever happens in twenty eight 501 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: I've already started to think about this because I do 502 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: become deeply nostalgic for the late eighties, which I remember, 503 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, you were getting out of grad school. But 504 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: the late eighties was a time that great movies, great 505 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: cultural stuff, but also Reaganism and how I came of 506 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: age in American politics with Reagan as the the thing 507 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: and people. I'm not trying to get into this discussion 508 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: or argue with anybody, but Reagan was like the greatness 509 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: by which all other Republicans of the era would be 510 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: judged or should be judged. 511 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: You know, we need a return to Reaganism. I've already 512 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 4: started to think about this in twenty years or people 513 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 4: would be like, oh, Trump really was the guy who 514 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: got it, understood it culturally, turned the cut. 515 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes, I do. 516 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: I think that in twenty years people will be speaking 517 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: about Trump the way that in the year nineteen ninety 518 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: eight people were speaking about Reagan. 519 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're one hundred percent right. 520 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: And I think people, I think this is why these 521 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: people could say, well, why do I care if Trump's 522 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: in the broadcast booth, Why do I care if athletes 523 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: are doing the Trump dance? You win with culture and 524 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: what I saw in trump one point, oh Buck, was 525 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: everybody was terrified. 526 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: To even admit publicly that they had voted Trump. 527 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: And now you've got athletes, white, black, Asian, Hispanic celebrating 528 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: Trump on the field, whether it's soccer, whether it's UFC, 529 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: whether it's the NFL. And I think, and I've made 530 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: this argument, and I haven't heard a real aggressive pushback 531 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: against it. I think it's not athletes seeing Trump and 532 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: responding in that way. I think it is just young men, 533 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: and the athletes are a reflection of the way that 534 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: young men feel about Trump, as opposed to it being 535 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: directly athletic. And you want to talk about culture, Remember 536 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Trump one point zero was all feuding about whether athletes should. 537 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: Stand for the national anthem. 538 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: Now they're having him in the press box to talk 539 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: about Veterans Day. That's, by the way, why he was 540 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: at the at the game, because they had a great 541 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: Veterans Day and he actually swore in a bunch of soldiers. 542 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Now there was booing whose oh, what are you gonna 543 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: talk about the book? 544 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Washington, d C. It's Washington, d C. 545 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: Are you surprised that people who overwhelmingly are federal employees 546 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: would boot the president during a shutdown, even while he 547 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: is swearing in a new batch of soldiers. No, I'm not, 548 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: But I do think it's interesting how whenever there is 549 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: negative attention on the president, it becomes an ap head 550 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: story and when everybody cheers, as has happened at most 551 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: of these sporting events, they just pretend it's not an 552 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: actual story. But it is to me culturally significant. Trump 553 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: did a good job. He actually said at the end 554 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: of the broadcast, I'd like to have your job one day, 555 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: to the to the broadcasters that interviewed him. 556 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: I don't want the president to get any ideas, but 557 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: he is the only president in my lifetime that he 558 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: could sit down and do three hours of radio no problem, 559 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: and he'd be. 560 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Good at it. 561 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: It's a lot of effort. In time, I think he 562 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: would grow tired of it. It's a lot of energy. 563 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying he has that persona and that 564 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: entertainment slash communication ability back Obama couldn't do a three 565 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: hour Barack Obama would run out of things to say 566 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: pretty fast. 567 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: I know, I couldn't have done a fifteen minute interview 568 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: with us that show. 569 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he couldn't be a guest on the show for 570 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: five minutes. I mean Biden was a total mess, you know. 571 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: Bush people said he was domb He wasn't dumb. I've 572 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: always pointed that out to people. He wasn't a dumb guy. 573 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: He can say a lot of other things about it, 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: but he couldn't do a radio show. I mean, it's 575 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: a particular skill set and you and I know the 576 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: skill set because we've now been doing this for for 577 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, almost two going on two decades. Trump could 578 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: do a three hour radio show. Yes, I know very 579 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 4: few politicians across the board who could pull that off. 580 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: So the fact that he was actually pretty good at 581 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: play by play or you know, calling her from the 582 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: booth is not a surprise to anybody. 583 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: No, he would be very good at it. 584 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: I give credit to Fox Sports for putting him on, 585 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see how much criticism there will 586 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: be because this is like the ultimate fear of everybody. 587 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: During Trump one point zero, the idea was, how dare 588 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: you platform Adolf Hitler? And now you know, Adolf Hitler's 589 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: just hanging out telling us about the importance of different 590 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: plays speaking of the awfulness of actual Nazis. Anti Semitism 591 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: is unfortunately at one of the highest levels we've seen 592 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: in the country since World War Two, and synagogues, Jewish 593 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: schools being threatened, some communities being targeted as well. Silence 594 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: isn't an option. This is the moment to take a stand. 595 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, that's the IFCJ 596 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: is on the front lines providing real help where it's 597 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: needed most. They're giving food and shelter to Jewish families 598 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: that feel under threat. They're helping survivors of hate rebuild 599 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: their lives. And they don't just respond to crisis, they 600 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: work every day to prevent it. Your gift of forty 601 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: five dollars will help support their life saving work by 602 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: helping provide food, shelter, and much more. Supporting The IFCJ 603 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: is a spiritual stand as well, so please call eight 604 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: eight eight four eight eight if CJ. That's eight eight 605 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: eight four eight eight four three two five. You can 606 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: also go online to IFCJ dot org. Every dollar helps, 607 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: don't wait, be the difference. Visit IFCJ dot org or 608 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: call eight eight eight four eight eight if CJ. 609 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: Now, I want to get to some of your calls 610 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: and your talk facts and your emails and more we have. 611 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: Let's see what we've. 612 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Got here, Bill and Michigan bucket. 613 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: That's what I was going for. You read my mind, 614 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 4: or rather you read the screen. Well done, Bill in Michigan, 615 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: go for it. 616 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 5: So it's easy to bash hospitals, physicians, health insurance companies. 617 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 5: And I just wanted to make a couple of points 618 00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: I'm an almost fifty year healthcare executive hospital administrator, grateful 619 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 5: that I'm retired, but I just want to make a 620 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 5: couple points. The problems with healthcare all go back to 621 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 5: nineteen sixty five when the federal government created Medicare and 622 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 5: Medicaid basically nationalize the rules, and everything since then has 623 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: been dictated by them, including the way doctors practice, the 624 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: way health insurance companies work, and the way hospitals and 625 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 5: healthcare providers communicate their charges, fees, all that. 626 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. 627 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: It's a mess, and I love to talk about it 628 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: because I can talk about it and layman terms that 629 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: most people can understand. 630 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: So if you had a magic wand and we were 631 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 2: just trying to design healthcare that would work better for 632 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: the average American, what would it look like. 633 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 5: Well, I've got a lot of ideas and I think 634 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: I could solve it, but it wouldn't be popular because 635 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 5: no one wants that. I would say, it's almost impossible 636 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: to unbake the cake that was created back in nineteen 637 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 5: sixty five, and the politicians have convinced us all that 638 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 5: healthcare is are right and you should get whatever you 639 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 5: want whenever you want it. To me The solution is 640 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 5: go back to the free market, if you limited liability 641 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: so that if a doctor made a mistake or didn't 642 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: order the right task, they weren't sued, and put the 643 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 5: physicians back in charge of making decisions. They can ration, 644 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 5: they can tell you, tell the patient what they really need. 645 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: You got to trust your physicians. But no one would 646 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 5: ever accept that we're going to end up with a 647 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 5: nationalized health insurance program like England and Canada by default 648 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 5: because it's going to collapse. 649 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: Totally looks Look, we totally agree with you, by the way, 650 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: And also I want to be clear, I don't ever 651 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: blame blame doctors. In fact, the doctors that I know 652 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: are victims of the system very much in the same 653 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: way that a lot of patients are, and that they 654 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 4: want to do. I was just talking to a doctor 655 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 4: Clay last week as a friend of mine, and he says, look, 656 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: I know I've had to just cut back and change 657 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 4: things with how i can see patients because the insurers 658 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: are having him see forty patients a day. I'm like, 659 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: how do you even see forty patients in a day? Yeah, 660 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: thirty five to forty patients a day. How much time 661 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: can you spend, he said, not enough time. It's not 662 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: as much time as I want to. He actually wants 663 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 4: to help people. But the way that they structure these 664 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: things because of the way that the you know, the 665 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: people that are using the what is the green eyeshadow, 666 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: green eye shade, whatever you call it, you know, looking 667 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: at the costs and looking at the expenses. But we 668 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: need to get back to an actual insurance system. We 669 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 4: don't have insurance. We have something else. 670 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he points out by the way to something significant, 671 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: which is one reason why doctors order so many tests 672 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: is to try to prevent from getting sued if a 673 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: small minority. 674 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Chance they miss something. 675 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: So we actually over over medicate and over bill. We 676 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: could probably cut half of all the medical treatment and 677 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: not impact it in any way results. 678 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: We'll talk more about the aftermath here, not quite after math, 679 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 4: because it's still technically shut down, but the ending the 680 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 4: final days we believe of this government shutdown, the longest 681 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: one in history, clay, which is pretty noteworthy, already the 682 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 4: longest in history. And we'll also take a look at 683 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: some other aspects of the New York City election fallout, 684 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: the tariff situation, what's the sucreme Coort going to do 685 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 4: on that, what's the economy looking like, and basically just 686 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: going to make sense of everything. We're just going to 687 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 4: solve all the problems played. 688 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: That's what we got coming up for you next Monday edition, 689 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: as the shutdown inches closer to being over once and 690 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: for all.