1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: This is John, This is Okay Storytime podcast hosts, and 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: we have some stories coming up for you. That's right. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a little morsel of a 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: two minute out break from the sponsors keeping the show delicious. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: H My mother came out as queer. I told her, 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: it's what's ruined our family. Uh, what you're talking about. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right place to 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: go either, since I'm sixteen, female and mostly with my dad. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: But I spent a weekend every month with my mom. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: They divorced three years ago. My mom moved in with 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: my cousin and it was cool because I went there 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: all the time. I guess to hang out with a cousin. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Van Baby Pony and 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: if you want to meet your own stories, good to 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: our slash Okay Storytime subur it. So a year and 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: a half ago, my mom made me go there. I 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: guess to the cousin's place and introduced me to this 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: girl and then came out to me and said they 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: were dating. She and her fiance are engaged. Now wow, 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: we're going we're going straight in. She also said they 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 1: were moving to Victoria in a week. Oh wow. Whoa 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: that did a lot of change happening all at once 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: for a sixteen year old. Yeah, after a week she 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: was gone. From where I am to her, it's a drive, 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: a fairy ride, and another drive. It takes a while 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: to see her, and that's why I can only go 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: once a month since then. Since she left, everything is 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: so sucky between us. Now it's like good morning messages 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: and FaceTime good night for five minutes, So their relationship 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: is kind of not as good as it was. Yeah, 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and everything else that changed with her sucks too. I 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: don't even like visiting her because it's like I don't 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: belong with her and her fiance. But I still go 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: because I thought she wanted to see me, and I 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: miss her a lot every day, So it's like it's 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: like she's been caught out of her own family. Sad 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: kid man, Yeah, that's her mom. This weekend, I was 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: in Victoria and she was facetiming my cousin while I studied. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: They got to talking about the wedding, so the mom 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: and her new fiance, and she started saying stuff like 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: her life is one hundred times better since she left, 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and how she's finally found real happiness and her fiance 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: and how her fiance is her world now and how 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: she can't wait fully move on from her old life. 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I could have said that, and you're hearing that as 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: a kid, dude like this, this sixteen year old is like, oh, 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: like I'm the old life. I'm the Yeah, I'm the 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: old life. It just made me so freaking angry, like 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: her life is so much better with me barely in it, 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: and move on from that old life. I'm from that 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: old life. I guess she noticed I was pissed because 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: at night she tried to talk to me. I said, 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk, but she was like, she 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: deserves to know when something's wrong with her girl, since 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I always seem so depressed whenever I come over, maybe 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: because you're not actually giving her the time of day. Yeah, 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: and that just made me snap. I lost it and 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: started shouting at her. I told her, I effing hate 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: the way she came out because my life got a 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: lot worse and it ruined things between us. I said, 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: it sucks that it feels like she wants me gone 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: because she's happier without me. And that started a pretty 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: bad argument because she was like, I'm blowing it out 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: of proportion. I just don't understand. We read a story 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: about this before where it's like, yeah, your kids aren't 66 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: going to understand, and so you have to make sure 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: that you communicate things clearly and consistently in these big changes, 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: because what will happen if you don't is the change 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: will just build up as resentment because a sixteen year 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: old doesn't know all the intricacies of what it means 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: for a f forty year old woman to come out, 72 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: doesn't know all the intricacy of what it means to 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: even have, like I mean a divorce happened when she 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: was thirteen. Like, she's not going to know everything. Your 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: job as a parent is to explain things that she 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: doesn't understand straight bowl in a china shop. Yeah, Like 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: like she's just like absolutely wrecking all of op's like 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: emotional stability and everything. 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: Like again she's like, Oh, you're basically you're so thrilled 80 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: that you're ditching me. Yeah, that's what it feels like her, 81 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: which is totally fine. And that's what I mean. 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe these things are out of context, but that's what 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: it seems like it is. And Sophia Collin says, mom 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: is self centered that's kind of what it feels like too. Yeah, well, 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: then mom just left the room, but I heard her 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: crying when I walked by her room to go to 87 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: the washroom at night. In the morning, her fiance drove 88 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: me to the ferry right after breakfast instead of after dinner. 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Since then, it's just been texts because I didn't want 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: to talk to her. My dad and his girlfriend have 91 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: noticed my attitude, so yesterday I told him what happened, 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: and he lipped, telling me I couldn't say that crap 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: to my mom and his girlfriend, and I was the 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: a hole for saying it really quick pausing here is 95 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: op the a hole for saying that, because I think 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: maybe what the dad is interpreting this as is like, oh, 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: you're being homophobic to your mom by saying like I 98 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: hate that you came out right, And I think Honeybee says, 99 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: it's not about the gay it's about the abandonment. Yea, 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Beyonce's mom did this at thirteen, dumped him on his 101 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: dad and then moved away with a new partner. Yeah, 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a good That's exactly what it is. 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm kind of shocked that I guess 104 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: the father and the mother were in a relationship for 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: a reason. They say, I'm like two peas in a 106 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: pod of not understanding how to parent your child and 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: be like emotionally aware. 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I think they're they're like chastising op 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: for the wrong thing. They're chastising her for, like the 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe this homophobe comment. We're gonna get 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: more context instead of addressing the abandonment, like you said, 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: exactly well, and she said so. Before I went to sleep, 113 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: I facetimed my mom to talk again, and she said, 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: my happiness is hers, and if she's why I'm depressed, 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: I shouldn't see her until I'm ready. Again missing the point, Oh, 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: missing the point. I'm missing the point now. I don't 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: know if I was wrong to say that crap to 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: my mom or what I should do. Even my fing 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: counselor is still in Barbados, and my dad's at work 120 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: and his girlfriend's staying out of it, and my cousin 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: is too. Again. Sorry, if this is the wrong subura, 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: there's a better one for me post in let me know. 123 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: And we do have an updates that's coming up, so 124 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: I'll a lot of crap has happened. This is my 125 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: last post, and I just feel more crap than before. 126 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't plan on posting here again, but you all 127 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: were so nice. I thought it couldn't hurt to hear 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: what you have to say. But I called my uncle. 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: He wanted to see me because I was scared my 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: dad told him, and that he's ashamed of me too 131 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: because he's attracted to the same gender and he's my 132 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: favorite uncle ever. So she's scared that because she said, 133 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm like annoyed that you came out to her mom, 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: that this uncle that she loves is going to disown 135 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: her or whatever. Yeah, So he picked me up after 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: school and I went to his apartment and he just 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: gave me a big hug because he knew something was up. 138 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: So I told him the uncle what I said and 139 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: why I said it, and that I was scared he'd 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: be mad at me too if my dad was the 141 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: one who told him what I said. He just told 142 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: me he isn't mad and he understands. I played basketball 143 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: at the court nearby until it was time for him 144 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: to drop me off. That was the last time I 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: even felt happy, because the higher rest of the month 146 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: has been absolute prep. It's crazy that the uncle is 147 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: like the only one that understands how to be there 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: for this kid, the only adult so far that gets 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I phone my mom to say sorry the day after 150 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: and talk about how I feel. But all she did 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: was get mad at me for telling my uncle and 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: said I'm not allowed to share stuff about her home 153 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: without her permission. Would isolate your kid more? Yeah, you're 154 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: continuing to exacerbate the problem. Yeah, Like like she like 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: OP doesn't feel like you're listening to her, so goes 156 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: to the one person that does feel like they're actually listening, 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: which they are, and now you're banned. Like like this 158 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: is the mom is banning OP from that that. I mean, 159 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: you're the way to cut off all of her support structors. Truly. 160 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: I said I was sorry about both things, but she 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: said it didn't matter now and just hung up. Then 162 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: her fiance texted and just said to give my mom 163 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: a few days to calm down. That just made me mad, 164 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: because why should I. He's my mom. I should be 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: able to phone her whenever. And I tried, but she 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: declined my call and I think she turned off her phone. 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't sept properly at all since then, 168 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: because I think I ruined things with my mom for good, 169 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: and all she's been doing is texting me and we 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: barely actually talk. Like I keep thinking about it, and 171 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: my thoughts and dreams are all messed up, and it's 172 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: like I've got this soft lump in my stomach that 173 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: keeps coming and going. The more I think about it. 174 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: It feels like I was right about me being part 175 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: of her old life, and I wish i'd never said 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: what I did to her. Yeah, and I saw someone 177 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: in chat up there say maybe she should try living 178 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: with the uncle, because it seems like the uncle's the 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: only one that actually understand Yes. Then it turns out 180 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: I was supposed to get a tetnis shot when I 181 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: was eleven, but for some reason I didn't or not 182 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: anti vaxers, so I had to get it now because 183 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: Dad said VHA was on his butt. I ended up 184 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: having a terrible allergic reaction to it. I got sent 185 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: to the hospital for a while week because of it. 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Apparently it was a super rare reaction. Pray for me 187 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: that messed up my exams too. My mom didn't even 188 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: come see me because she was going to a cabin 189 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: with her fiance. The next day, he's like, I got 190 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: a pack. You got a pack. She talked to my 191 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: dad on the phone and learned how bad it was, 192 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: but all she did was text me saying she knew 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: I'd be better. 194 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh the kitty cat, those things people listen, man, We 195 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: thought we thought it was just us. 196 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Guys, women are apparently just as successful. Oh. She said 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: that if I was still in the hospital when she 198 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: got back, he'd come right away, and that made me 199 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: want to stay in the hospital longer, so she'd come 200 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and visit. 201 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: Dude, when your kid is like, oh, I hope I 202 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: can stay in the hospital longer, So hopefully, like finally 203 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: guilts my mom into coming seeing me. 204 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Something is very wrong. Well, guys, we're not even a 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: tenth of the way through the story. Oh god, not 206 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: even a tenth of the way. Buckle in, buckle in, 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: because it gets a lot crazier. But I do think 208 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: it potentially better by the end. We hold out, hope 209 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: we hold out. She didn't eff income. Everyone else did, 210 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: but not her. My cousin came every day. My dad's 211 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: girlfriend even slept by me for a few days. My 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: nieces came, even my boyfriend's and best friend's moms came, 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: but mine did not. When I got out, all I 214 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: got was a text saying so happy you're out of 215 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: the hospital, baby, with a selfie of her and her 216 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: partner showing off the cabin. 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Included I don't want to see your freaking your freaking cabin. 218 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: I don't want to see your cabin. That's like donating 219 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: a bowl of rice to a starving child and saying like, 220 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: so glad you got the rice, and then flexing in 221 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: front of like a nine course meal in front of 222 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: your mansion. I'm like eating no booths. Yeah, yeah, dude, 223 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I got too. I couldn't stop looking at that stoop photo. 224 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I obsessed over it for days and kept getting that 225 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: awful feeling in my stomach. Eventually, I just smashed my phone. 226 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: My dad's girlfriend heard, and he got an emergency meeting 227 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: set up with my counselor. She's a psychologist, but I've 228 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: always called her that. I told her everything with more details. 229 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: At the end of it, she said, I'm very likely 230 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: depressed and might need treatment. I don't know. I got 231 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: scared and asked her to tell my dad. She did, 232 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: and she told us to get our family doctor to 233 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: give a resperral to a psychiatrist for a proper diagnosis 234 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and treatment, or just get it from the family doctor. 235 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: My dad got scared and made us get the referral. 236 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: The next day, he made an appointment and asked my 237 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: mom to come, but she said you wouldn't be able to. 238 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: She just texted me to stay strong and remember that 239 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm the most important thing in the world to her. Lies. 240 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I don't want meds 241 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: or anything. I just want my mom to love me 242 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: like she used to. Again, if you guys have any 243 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: advice on what to do, I need to because it's 244 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: like my mom isn't even listening to me anymore and 245 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the appointment is on Friday, and I'm feeling scared. Dude, 246 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: there's another update. There's so many updates to this story, Bud. 247 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: How is everyone in Opie's life just failing her so badly? 248 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Any any psychiatrists or psychologists or people that have have, like, 249 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of experience with that, Like, is 250 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: this a normal reaction to just put sixteen year olds 251 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: on meds immediately? I think there is. 252 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: I can't remember if it's a psychologist, but it's a 253 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: psychiatrists prescribes psychology, or therapists explore the mind through questions. 254 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. 255 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: So it's like they're just trying to push push the pills, 256 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, sponsored by counselor sponsored by big pharma and 257 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: uh what op he needs Yeah of someone to I 258 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: think someone said, like skills not pills. 259 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we need to be able to skills up. 260 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: I love all these a little like these these rhymings. Shot. 261 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Dude is freaking' They've always got the bars. Yeah, we 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: need to at a bare minimum give her the tools. 263 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: But like I don't know, like reach out to the 264 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: mom and be like, yo, what are you doing? 265 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. But we got an update. Oh boy, 266 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: we got an update. Are you ready? I'm ready as 267 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: all ever be let's freakin go, so update too. So 268 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: I would have been an update earlier, but I just 269 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: didn't have time. I'm in the hospital right now recovering 270 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: from my ankle surgery, and I just have some time 271 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: before I go home Friday, so I thought I might 272 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: as well update. The day after I wrote my post, 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: I had my niece's mom my cousin in law, but 274 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: she introduces me as her little sister. So sister in 275 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: law drive me to my uncle. Yes, the only competent 276 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: adults in this story, let's go. He just gave me 277 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the biggest hug ever, and I don't know, I just 278 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: ended up crying a little. They calmed me down, and 279 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I told my uncle about the appointment with the psychiatrist 280 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: and how I was scared, even though everybody, you guys, 281 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: was saying it would be okay. I told him I'd 282 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: just been unhappy, and then I missed my mom so much. 283 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: He agreed to go with me and my dad to 284 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: the psychiatrist since my wouldn't be coming. I don't know. 285 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: I just couldn't sleep at all that night. I felt 286 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: so scared in the morning and kept thinking about my mom. 287 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to school either, but I did, 288 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: even though I felt so weird, like that feeling in 289 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: my stomach was just there and wouldn't go away. The 290 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: only thing that felt right was hanging out with my boyfriend. 291 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: At least she has a boyfriend, Daniel Handler. Thank you, 292 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Amy Herring. Oh, I was bothering him. Yeah, I was 293 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: on the brain. Before lunchtime. I ended up falling asleep 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: in class and got sent to the office. They felt 295 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: my dad and he signed me out and dropped me 296 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: off at my uncle's house. My uncle was already taking 297 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: care of my niece, so I felt bad, but I 298 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: went to sleep at the same time as her. He 299 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: took a really cute photo of us sleeping next to 300 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: each other. He woke me up when my dad came back, 301 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and we went the psychiatrist together. Long story shorts. At 302 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the end of the appointment, the psychiatrist prescribed me a 303 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: really low dose of antidepressants because I was still scared. 304 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: I've been taking them and they have been making me 305 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: feel a bit better. I have another I'm in next 306 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: week because my counselor says I might need a higher dose. 307 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: When I vented to my counselor, she said she'd be 308 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: willing to host an extra joint session between me and 309 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: my mom on Zoom if my mom agreed. She thought 310 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: it might help to get my feelings across with the 311 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: third party. I didn't want to do it, but some 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: of you recommended it, and my counselor said it could 313 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: be a good first step. I called my mom. It 314 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: was a short conversation, but she agreed to the counseling session. 315 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: All I had to do was send her the Zoom 316 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Wink so we could set one up for later. I 317 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: had the zoom session in our computer room so i'd 318 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: be alone at first. My mom seems so excited because 319 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: she was like, we can work through our issues and 320 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: put them behind us. I don't want to talk about 321 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: all of it. I mean I couldn't anyway, because I 322 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: don't remember most of it. But it didn't go well 323 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: at all. When my counselor brought up me not being 324 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: with her that much, my mom said that when I 325 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: came to Victoria, i'd obviously stay with her. I just 326 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: told her, after everything, I didn't even want to go 327 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: to Victoria anymore because I would rather go to UBC, 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: which I believe is British Columbia, because everybody here actually 329 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: wants me. My mom said that was ridiculous, since outside 330 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: of Waterloo, Victoria was the best option for software engineering 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: in Canada. Okay, these are schools. This is schools that 332 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: OP would go to for college and UBC, so it's 333 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: University of Victoria, University of British Clumblia, and UBC only 334 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: had electrical computer engineering, so I'd have to go to 335 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: her if I still wanted to do that. She also 336 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: kept saying that she had spent over a decade doing 337 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: nothing but being a mom, and now that she finally 338 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: understood herself, she just wanted time to explore that, and 339 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: I should appreciate it. You don't get to like just 340 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: opt out of being a mom like that and not 341 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: expect your kid to have some adverse reaction. 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: Your child is not a newsletter. You cannot unsubscribe. It 343 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: doesn't work like that. I can't cancel the subscription. 344 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can with like adoption. Okay, yeah, 345 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm dang. And also it's like you you 346 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: made it through the first sixty in the years, you know, 347 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: just subscribe for two more years. 348 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Two more, just just see it out and you know what, Hey, look, 349 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: well look at the flip side of the coin. The 350 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: mom has probably finally accepted herself, finally accepted her sexuality, 351 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: and she's like very eager to, like, you know, be 352 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: the person that she actually is. But you can't do 353 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: that at the expense of your child. Be with her, 354 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: But don't do all these things like it doesn't they're 355 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: not mutually exclusive. 356 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could love your your your new wife, and 357 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: your daughter. Yeah, exactly, exactly, child, and maybe you could 358 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: love your child even more knowing that you like fully 359 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: accept yourself and your identity, like I think a lot 360 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: of people can do that. But at the end of it, 361 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: I told my mom that I hated that she didn't 362 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: come see me in the hospital and that she didn't 363 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: even call me. Good for you putting it out there. Yes, 364 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: I told her I was scared i'd pass away, and 365 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: she just said it wasn't that serious because it was 366 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: a vaccine and vaccines protect us, so I shouldn't act 367 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: like it was serious. I don't know that. Maybe mad 368 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: I just muted my mic but because I didn't want 369 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: them to hear me crying. But then I kind of 370 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: had a breakdown and just ran out to my dad 371 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: and his fiance because I was crying. They said they 372 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: ended the session, but I don't know what they said 373 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: to my mom or the counselor Apparently I fell asleep 374 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: crying on the couch while hugging my dad, but I 375 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: don't remember any of it. My dad said I was 376 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: crying really loudly. I think they carried me to their 377 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: bed because when I woke up in the morning. I 378 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: was there. Also, what's your dad doing, saying like, yeah, 379 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: you were crying super loudly last night. 380 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Keep it under a certain decibel limit. Yeah, 381 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: who am I hoping? Yeah, dude, this dad needs just 382 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: the read a freaking room. 383 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I hit you with muscrunching watch house. 384 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 4: Where did you get that? 385 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: I fought it just for him? Well, my dad was 386 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: on a mattress by the door, and she was on 387 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: one by the washroom door. Or at least that's good. 388 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: They said it was to block me because they were 389 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: scared I'd do something. Every time I think they did 390 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: something good. Nope, they just nope. Couldn't be. Oh, couldn't me. 391 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: My dad took my new phone and laptop from me 392 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: for a bit and said it might be healthy for 393 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: me to stay off them for a while. I have 394 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: them back now, you're such an it. Sorry No, oh yeah, yeah, 395 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: you know what. 396 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Her mom isn't talking to her. Let's caught off for communication, 397 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: like with her boyfriend and her friends too. Let's do that, yes, exactly, 398 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: like literally her only support system. Let her watch a 399 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: freaking TikTok. 400 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Bro. It's okay. 401 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: She needs a little stress relief because you're a terrible parent, 402 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: and so is your ex wife. 403 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: We'll just dude, yeah, yeah, man, because called Big Pharma. 404 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to my mom at all since then, 405 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: and I mean not even good morning, good night text 406 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: if she hasn't contacted me at all about my broken ankle, 407 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: even though I had surgery yesterday, and I feel like 408 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't even care that I got hurt, like I, 409 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, dad told her that I'm going to surgery, 410 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: but she hasn't called. I have my phone and laptop back, 411 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: but my dad made me delete ig and Snap because 412 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: he's worried seeing her on there might trigger me. A 413 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: lot of you said I should stop talking to her, 414 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: but I feel bad about it, Like when I think 415 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: about it, it makes me feel worse, like it's over 416 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: now and I don't have her anymore. I just want 417 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: her back. The only time I learn what's up with 418 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: her is if I go to my cousin who my 419 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: mom stayed with after the divorce and ask, and apparently 420 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: she's still happy and is occupied with her wedding planning. 421 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: Priorities are a miss. Like Another thing that sucks is 422 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: that I used to love watching Scream with my cousin. 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: But now I can't even watch it because I feel 424 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: bad for Billy because his mom left him too, And 425 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I feel bad for feeling like that because he's the villain. 426 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh is Billy the the little knife guy? 427 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 428 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, Chucky a Billy and scream that's like, 429 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it might be the guy who's like ianks. 430 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: Seeing you on the phone. 431 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: You're in the house, did that very well? Yeah, and 432 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: the expressions. So I couldn't even get through the rewatch 433 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: and we couldn't even watch the new one. I told 434 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: my counsel that I still feel really bad and sad 435 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: and nothing's changed, and she's like, oup the antidepressants, huh up. 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: And she said I need to bring it up at 437 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: my next appointment with a psychiatrist so we can up 438 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: my toes. 439 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: Oh god, I was joking bier them, Oh joke, we 440 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 2: are we crazy? 441 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Don't do that. There's so much incompetence around ope, so 442 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: much incompetence. It takes a village to fail a child. 443 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: That is what we're learning today. I don't know. I 444 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: feel confused, and I don't like seeing or talking to 445 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: my mom at all. I feel like I've done the 446 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: wrong thing. I've tried to do things we used to 447 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: do with my dad's fiance and my boyfriend's mom, but 448 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: it's not the same, and I just miss her more, 449 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: even though she probably doesn't miss me at all. I 450 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: wish I could see her, but I don't want to 451 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: keep her ruining things for myself because what if he 452 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want me anymore. I'd ran to my counselor about it, 453 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: but I'm stuck in a hospital bed till Friday, so 454 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: I guess that's why I'm back here, looking for advice 455 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: on what to do when I'm out of here. And 456 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: there is another update John. Hey, guys, posting again because 457 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm confused as to what's going on, and I thought 458 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: maybe i'd get some opinions before I bring it up 459 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: with my therapist. Pretty much, I don't know if my 460 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: mom hates me still or if now she wants to 461 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: be my mom again, because everything she's done lately is 462 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: so confusing. My foot is still bad. The doctor says 463 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: it's healing, but I mostly confined to crutches or a wheelchair. 464 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm not really able to go to a lot of places. 465 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: I can go anywhere, but I don't go because it 466 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 1: takes too long to get around. I also love how 467 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: like during this hulk kerfuffle, Opie's foot is just a 468 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: bag of boats. Yeah. Yeah, it's happened. I mean Opie's 469 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: gone to the hospital twice. Yeah, dude, once for the 470 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: fever that our mom didn't care about, once for the 471 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: ankle that our mom didn't care about. We gotta put 472 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: OPI a little bubble, Yeah, antime, mom, bubble. I'm guessing 473 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: my cousin told my mom because apparently she came to 474 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: New Westminster and did her wedding dress shopping there with 475 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: my cousin and her fiance, and she didn't even tell me. 476 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: I know, we hadn't talked since the therapy session, but 477 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: you promised me that I would get to do that 478 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: with her, and she didn't even tell me. I found 479 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: out because when I visit my cousin, she showed me 480 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: the dresses she was going to wear at the wedding 481 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: and at the reception, and the ones my mom and 482 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: her got for me to wear it those. I was 483 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: confused because I was sad she didn't take me a 484 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: bit happy because that meant she still want to be 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: there anyway. Her wedding was on Canada today, and I 486 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: went with my cousin to Victoria a week later. My 487 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: dad did say I didn't need to go, but I 488 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to miss it again missing the point OPI 489 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: wants nothing more but to be close to her mom. 490 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: We we stayed at airbnb that my mom got for 491 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: some of our relatives because her place was too small. 492 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: She didn't come and visit me there, but my cousin 493 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: went to meet her, and I didn't go because my 494 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: foot was hurting really bad. When she came back, you said, 495 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: my mom was really disappointed I didn't come as well. 496 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: The day after, I was going to go shopping downtown 497 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: with my cousin, but then my mom came. When she 498 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: saw me, didn't give me a hug like she usually gives, 499 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: just kind of held my shoulders, gave me an awkward 500 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: kiss on the cheek and said she was glad I 501 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: decided to come. Then she kind of turned me over 502 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: to my aunt, my mom's cousin, to go shopping with instead, 503 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: because she and my cousin would be busy that week 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: with all the wedding stuff and making sure it all 505 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: went perfectly, that we couldn't go downtown. I love my aunt, 506 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: so it wasn't bad going downtown with her, and she 507 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: didn't even mind pushing me in the wheelchair. But it 508 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: wasn't what I wanted to do. I want to spend 509 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: time with her mom. Dude. Two days before the wedding, 510 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: they had this really big up meet the family's dinner, 511 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: where my mom and her wife were introducing people to 512 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: their relatives. Because my foot got swollen and the boot 513 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: was hurting in it, I had to go in the wheelchair, 514 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: so my mom didn't even introduce me to people, and 515 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: one of the few times I was able to talk 516 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: to us, this guy related to her wife interrupted us, 517 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: asked who I was, and she just said, don't worry 518 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: about her, and then had an aunt of mine wheel 519 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: me away. Oh we're about to not worry about you. Okay, 520 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: she's again. This seems absolutely crazy, but we have talked 521 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: to people in the chat that things like this have 522 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: happened to It's true. This is like and I think 523 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: some people, yeah, this is aux said never wanted to 524 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: be a mom. I think this is someone who was 525 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: forcing the motherhood and this it's finally coming out that 526 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: she really didn't want to be a mom and she. 527 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's taking out all the resentment of like I 528 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: spent sixteen years of my life dedicated to you and 529 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: da da da da da da. 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: And it's like and she's trying to have this perfect 531 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: wedding that she doesn't want Ope to get in the 532 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: way of. And so all of this is coming to 533 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: a head. And you know, we've seen how she feels 534 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: about Opee through her actions, and now the words are 535 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: finally matching the actings. Rile, you had something to say too. 536 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, like also the way that I think it's symbolic 537 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 6: that Ope is in a wheelchair right now at her 538 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 6: mom's wedding, because that's probably how her mom views. 539 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: Her as a handicap exactly on her life. Dude, metaphor, 540 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: that was how we're reading into the metaphor. That was crazy. 541 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: They're just doing high school where it's like that's the 542 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: yellow mean in this story. It was like, I don't know, p. 543 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, bro bro op is so down bad. 544 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: But but you know what, the one good thing about 545 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: this is maybe now tell me what's good about wheelchair. 546 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: I think that, like you said, the mom's words are 547 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: now matching her actions. Hopefully this will help opie see 548 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: how she's actually acting and kind of be like, look, 549 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: I got to focus on me because I know mom 550 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: right now, in her current state, she's not only not 551 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: doing anything for me, she's making actively worse. 552 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: I need to, you know, focus on the people that 553 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: actually make me feel better. Yes, exactly. Well, well, well 554 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: that may be really upset, but I did feel a 555 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: bit better because her fiance's parents brought gifts for me, 556 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: not my kind of stuff. I think they thought I 557 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: was younger than I am. And the wedding itself was cool. 558 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: My foot wasn't badly swollen then and I was able 559 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: to use my crutches. My mom acted so differently then 560 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: and made me take a bunch of pictures with her 561 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: and with her fiance, and she seemed so happy and 562 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: told me it was the best day of her life, 563 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: only because I came. 564 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait about Tom. I've seen this before. 565 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 6: I've seen this before where they it's they want to 566 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 6: like have a happy family, like I've seen it before 567 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: in another story. I don't know how to how to 568 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 6: word this, but it's like a lesbian couple and they 569 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 6: wanted to be like, oh, look at our happy family 570 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 6: on social media. 571 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: We're so happy. Yeah, it's image space. It's image space. 572 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: They're all doing it for image They're doing it for 573 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: the familial cloud. It's like that guy that gets a 574 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: fake Rolex and flexes in front of her rented or Lamborghini, 575 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm the same kid, just different toys, 576 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, Like which is a real thing that I 577 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: saw someone do, but like that is like that's like, 578 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: so that's just flexing something that you don't have. And 579 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I feel that's exactly what the mom is doing. It's 580 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: flexial family that they don't have. So true. At the reception, 581 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I wore the dress that she got me, but I 582 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: couldn't walk in the crutches while wearing it, not like 583 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: the wedding one. So my aunt made me go in 584 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: that dress and in my wheelchair even though I didn't 585 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: want to, and my cousin said I could wear different jeess, 586 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: but my aunt was like, my mom got that dress 587 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: specifically for me, and we'll be upset if I don't 588 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: wear it. Then the reception, I was seated at the 589 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: table with family near the stage where she and her 590 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: fiance sat, but at the table with kids I didn't 591 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: even know, even though some of my relatives younger than 592 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: me were at the family table. My aunt said, they 593 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: moved me there because my wheelchair. Wait, so they moved 594 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: you away from the main family table. 595 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was other like She's like, oh, I'm 596 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: at the kids table, which maybe they could be like, oh, 597 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's just like with the other kids. There 598 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: was other kids younger than her, who, by the way, 599 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: are not her mom's child, sitting at the like the 600 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: main table. 601 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so where is the kid's table usually placed in out. 602 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Of the way. Yeah, out of the way. Yeah, let 603 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: me let me, let me tuck you over here. My 604 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: aunt said, they moved me there because my wheelchair. But 605 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: I just don't get why I couldn't be with my family. 606 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: My mom didn't even take a photo with me at 607 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: the reception. She just came to me once said high. 608 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: And I wasn't even the family photo because we didn't 609 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: bring my crutches because my wheelchair. So my aunt said, 610 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: my mom told them to leave me because they couldn't 611 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: fit me in. And the day after we were going home, 612 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: my mom came to say goodbye to us. He talked 613 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: to me alone for a minute and then said sorry 614 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: for everything that happened between us before, but she was 615 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: hoping we could get past it as you inflict more damage, 616 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: hoping we can get past it. No, No, we've passed 617 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that road. You are a long time at closing a wall. Yes, 618 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of our road. We're not getting past anything, 619 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: but if we couldn't, she was still happy. I came 620 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: to her wedding. I didn't really get to say anything 621 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: because she just hugged me and sent us on our way. 622 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't feel that sad about everything anymore, though, because 623 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: I think the antidepressants have been helping. Ope, he's just numb. Ope, 624 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: he's just numb. 625 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Like maybe there 626 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: is something about the antire presidents that are not like 627 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: necessarily numbing but are helping the brain chemistryor something. 628 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I could be completely wrong. I know anxiety men's are 629 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: more like the stuff. I feel like we're taking the 630 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: wrong approach with the men things lead wrong completely. I 631 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: have been feeling happier for about a month now, and 632 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: nothing has happened to me like I was afraid for 633 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: the last two weeks. My mom has been texting good morning, 634 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: good night again when I didn't do anything like text, call, 635 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: or phone or FaceTime since the therapy session with her, 636 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't been more than that, but I've been saying 637 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: it back. I'm just confused with why she's acting the 638 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: way she is. You guys, have any clue or advice. 639 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: Edit. 640 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I wish I could say thank you to everybody who's 641 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: commented and given advice. I'm sorry if I didn't respond 642 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: to you guys personally, but it means so much to 643 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: me that you guys cared. I've read everything, and helpful 644 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: you bring it up to with my counselor. I thank 645 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you guys so much. I love you all. And there's 646 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: an update. We're not even halfway done. Well, we're still 647 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: this story. We're still there. We're still going. Oh and 648 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: there is an update coming up. 649 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 650 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: back to the story. So, but here's a quick three 651 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 2: minute break from asper more sponsors. 652 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: So I got a phone call from my mom and 653 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I did answer because I guess I was curious because 654 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: she's only been texting me since her wedding, and she 655 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: said she wanted me to come over even though I 656 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: was really missing her because I was going to go 657 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: with my uncle's family to Seattle that weekend. Basically, Opie's like, 658 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to spend more time with uncle, and it 659 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: feels like the mom was like pulling her away. Don't 660 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: let her do it, don't let her do it, don't 661 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: let her do it. I said no, put your foot down. 662 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Ope mm hmmm, yes, been a good I think I 663 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: would have said no anyway, because I was just planning 664 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: on staying away. Like everybody here suggested yees, stay away 665 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: from her, and my counselor also said that it might 666 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: be good to define my life without her. She said okay. 667 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Within the day after, I think she phoned my dad 668 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: because he came and said that I had to go 669 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: to Victoria instead. I told him I didn't want to go, 670 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: but we ended up arguing and he said that I 671 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a choice and my uncle would take me 672 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: somewhere when I got back. Again, we're just isolating op 673 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: from her only support person. Dude, stop bad. So my 674 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: dad dropped me and my cousin off at the ferry 675 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: and when we got to Victoria, it turns out my 676 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: mom and her wife I guess my stepmm now moved 677 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: into their new house. My mom's wife wasn't there because 678 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: she was in Ottawa for work, but her parents did come. 679 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: They're really nice. They kind of went on about how 680 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: they thought they'd never have grandkids and were so happy 681 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: when they learned my mom had me. They did offer 682 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: to get me some presents this time, but my mom 683 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: let them take me to dinner to some perogi place 684 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: in downtown instead. I don't know what to think about 685 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: the visit, because so much of it was good, but 686 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the one bad part was really bad. When I got there, 687 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to her about the stuff at 688 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: the wedding and everything else, like the fact that she 689 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: literally said get out of the way. Yeah, And I 690 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: wanted to tell her that I would rather have gone 691 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: with my uncle. But then I just felt really nervous 692 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: because I, I don't know, I kind of just felt 693 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: like I'd ruined the entire trip if I did, so 694 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I just didn't did. Maybe that was the wrong thing. 695 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: The first thing I noticed in her house was her 696 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: giant graduation picture where she's holding a baby me above 697 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: the fireplace. Then my mom surprised me by showing me 698 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: my room and it's perfect. Oh. I have a huge bed, 699 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: a big personal washroom, because remember the mom wants op 700 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: to move to University of Victoria to do the engineering program, right. 701 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: She wants her to do that's right, and so is 702 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: setting up a whole place for her. Riley has an. 703 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 6: ICU, Oh talk to me, you know how like in movies, 704 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 6: everything looks nice, everything looks perfect. 705 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: The one thing that caught my eye so far was 706 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: that she has a picture of her at a graduation 707 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: with a baby her. 708 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 6: I feel like, one day everything's gonna go to crap, 709 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: and that fireplace is gonna be like lit, it's gonna 710 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 6: be super hot and fiery, and it's just gonna remind. 711 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: Her like she's in Hell's. 712 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Riley, Riley digging poetic for I honestly was kind of 713 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: thinking of the same thing, having the thing about the fireplaces. 714 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, that picture's gonna melt it. It's gonna show 715 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: that melted, yes thing. But also I was literally as 716 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: you were saying that, I was thinking Coraline, like the 717 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: thing that looks perfect on the outside but it is 718 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: actually terrible. And Sanity also saw it. It's Coraline mom. 719 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: It is a Coraline mom, you know, giving all these promises, 720 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: but it's actually terrible. Yeah, I haven't seen that movie 721 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: in ages so such a spooky movie. I haven't seen 722 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: it ever. Well, I have a huge bet, a big 723 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: personal washroom, a walk in closet, one of those fancy 724 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: standing desks, and a TV. It's all white because my 725 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: mom was like, when my foot is better, she wants 726 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: me to come and paint and decorate it all with her. 727 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: She even promised she'd never let anybody use the room, 728 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: even if I'm not there that often. Again, I feel 729 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: like she's just setting op up for another emotional, like 730 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: just depth another It's a waste. Come on, Is she 731 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna use it just to put her in the corner? Yeah, 732 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: exactly and lock the door throw out a peep. 733 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 734 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 1: The first night I got back from the PEROHI place, 735 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: my mom, my cousin and I stayed up so late 736 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: just watching TV, and I even fell asleep hugging her. 737 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for the other shoot to drop. 738 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 739 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: The next day we went downtown and my mom took 740 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: a shopping and then to the Royal British Columbia Museum, 741 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: the one with the mammoths. My foot in my hands 742 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: really started hurting afterwards because my mom made me use 743 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: my crutches and not the wheelchair, said it'd be good exercise, 744 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: but we all know it's just because she didn't want 745 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: to push that wheelchair. 746 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and also, by the end of the story, all 747 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: of Opie's bones will be broken. 748 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, how terrible is this person? So then she took 749 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: us to the spa. We took so many pictures and 750 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she put them on Instagram, but I'm 751 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: not allowed on it anymore. Again. I feel like she's 752 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: just flexing for the gram. Yes, yes, so I'm not sure. 753 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I was really tired when we got back, so I 754 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: conked out right away. When I woke up in the morning, 755 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: my mom actually brought me pancakes in bed because my foot, 756 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: because I love it when she makes me those. I 757 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: don't trust this single thing that's happening right now. No, 758 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: it's coraline, coraline, coraline, coraline. Buttons, fries buttons. The rest 759 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: of that day was good to accept. At night, the 760 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: shoe we gonna draw. Here we go. My mom said 761 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: that when I moved in for university, we could make 762 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: every day like this. So she's like, she's like making 763 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: the perfect day. Try to suck her in yeah, it's 764 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: one day one. So I reminded her I might go 765 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: to University of British Columbia instead, Yep, not u VIC. 766 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And we got into a really big argument 767 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: about university and I did scream at her and bring 768 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: up stuff from before, but pretty much my mom said 769 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: that she wants me to go to u VIC if 770 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: I still want to do software engineering. She said that 771 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: if it was any other kind of engineering I wanted 772 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: to do, she wouldn't mind paying for UBC, but that 773 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: it's not a good for software. She did say she 774 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: would still pay no matter where I went, but she'd 775 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: be really disappointed if I chose not to go to 776 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 1: the best university for my degree where I could also 777 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: stay with her, just because I blamed her coming out 778 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: and moving for everything bad that's happening to me since then, 779 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory talk to me, spears e theory and maybe 780 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: this is a little bit too far. I think the 781 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: mom is thinking about her retirement and who is going 782 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: to take care of her in her old aide mmmm, 783 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: and she wants OP to make that money so OP 784 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: can pay for end of life care slash like elderly care. 785 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: When she's older, and I think it's also a grand play. 786 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: It's an Instagram play and it's like a take care 787 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of me when you're when you're old play, and I 788 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: want you to get as much money as possible. 789 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 6: And OB's like sixteen, right, six Yeah, Okay. I was 790 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 6: going to go down the child support route, like, oh, 791 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 6: if she takes care of her, she gets money from 792 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 6: the husband, from the ex husband. 793 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: I was as much. But yeah, I think cause it's 794 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: only two years left, that's my that's my conspiracy there. 795 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? 796 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 4: I am trying to figure out what she's trying to 797 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 4: get out. 798 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Of this, yeah, because it's like she's always been trying 799 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: to get something out of it. Just it doesn't feel 800 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: like it's just altruistic. 801 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, she's one thousand percent doing it for something 802 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: other than out of just be your love for daughter 803 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: and what's best for life. It is absolutely not in 804 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: the daughter's best interest and absolutely is in the mother's 805 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: best interest, don't it could be? It could be I 806 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe it is just the familial that the 807 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: family clout. You know, I'm just like making ooh, is 808 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: it to be looking good for her new wife's family. 809 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 2: But she did, but she did like she was like, oh, 810 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: don't worry about her, I think in front of them. 811 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 5: Mmmm. 812 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: So because there's her wife, got a lot of m 813 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: and the very family oriented. 814 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hope, hope, hope, all right. Fiance fiance's parents 815 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: were like, I thought I would never have a grand baby. 816 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Maybe they want her toys? Say again, they got her 817 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: toys and gifts at the wedding. Toys and gifts at 818 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: the wedding thing. I think the parents of Opie's mom's 819 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: fiance are like, maybe want to support Opie's mom and 820 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: the fiance more. Yes, if there's a grand baby in 821 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: the pictures, Deeter Sathan the in laws, we're so happy 822 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: to have the grandkid. Yes, yes, it's for the wife's mother, 823 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: Samantha Lourie. Yes, yes, that's it. That's also, Oh, if 824 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: you go to college, child support continues. Is that true? 825 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: Interesting? 826 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: And maybe if it's like a specific college double paid 827 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: so she's getting she's getting it from her new her 828 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: new in laws, the grandparents, and still getting it from 829 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: from ex husband like double money. 830 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: Oo wow, yeah this is in Canada. Yes, oh wow, 831 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: Rebecca Perla says the penny drops. Yes, she's trying to 832 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: look good for the in law, so we have been right. 833 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: It's all for show, but it's not just for the 834 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: Graham it's for the fiance's parents. Dude, ho, dude, I 835 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: feel like Reddit Sherlock Holmes right now. Cooked? Oh we cooked, 836 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: absolutely cooked, houcked, Let's go. She also said I need 837 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: to stop exaggerating how bad everything has been because it 838 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't make me change my university plan. I tried telling 839 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: her that's not what I meant, but I couldn't say 840 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: it right, and I have things. Started crying and she 841 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: seemed to get really mad. She didn't yell or anything, 842 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: but she just gave a frustrated sigh and said I 843 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: need to stop crying, grow up and accept that she 844 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: handled things the best way she could and my attitude 845 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: problems were why it's been such a bad year for us. 846 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: It's not me, it's you. That's exactly You're a big woman, 847 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: baby mom. That just made me cry more. And she 848 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: said if I don't grow up, I'm never going to 849 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: get a husband, and then left the room. Oh my gouch, 850 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 1: never gonna get a husband. What are you talking about? 851 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with anything you m I 852 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: just kind of kept crying because I don't feel like 853 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: any of that is true, and the husband part was 854 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: so effing weird, and I honestly can't stop thinking about 855 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: that part specifically. Half an hour later, she came back 856 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: with water and made me drink and started yelling me 857 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: at me how if I wanted to do computer or 858 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: electrical or any other engineering, she'd support UBC, but the 859 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: UVic is the best for software outside of Waterloo, and 860 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to send me so far away, but 861 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: would still pay for it if that's what I'd do. 862 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why she wanted to keep talking about that, 863 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't, so I just agreed when she said 864 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: she'll take me to talk to an advisor to convince 865 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: me next time I come over. Me and my cousin 866 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: left early next morning, so yesterday me and my mom 867 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: said she'd try to come over for my birthday because 868 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: her in laws really wanted to attend. The in laws 869 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: really wanted to attend, remember that, and that she'd try 870 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: and make an appointment at YUVIC once my foot's better. 871 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: The thing is, that argument was the one bad thing 872 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: about the visit. Everything else would have been perfect because 873 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: it was just like it used to be with her, 874 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't even know if I'd be posting if 875 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: it had been. But I just can't stop thinking about 876 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: the stuff that she said when we argued. I don't 877 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: even know why she said the husband thing. I just 878 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: don't get what the FG means by that or why 879 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: she would bring it up. I'm not going to smash 880 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: my phone this time, but i do feel mad thinking 881 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: about it. I told my cousin about the argument we 882 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: had on the way back, and she told me she 883 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: personally thinks I should go to UBC and would try 884 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: to convince my mom, but that she thinks she just 885 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: wants me to live with her again. I told my 886 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: dad and his fiance about it, and he apologized for 887 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: make me go, but said that he had to. He 888 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: and his fiance have checked on me a dozen times already, 889 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm getting that stupid effing feeling in my stomach 890 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: and every time I think about it, and I wish 891 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: I would be able to go with my uncle instead, 892 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: but I'm going to spend the rest of the week 893 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: at his apartment, so I guess it's fine. I'm going 894 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: to go to my counselor again. Today before my uncle 895 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: picks me up. Does anybody have any advice for what 896 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: I could bring up? Because we went through the comments 897 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: posted to Hea last time, and we have another update. 898 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: We have another third of the story left. Wow, another third. 899 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 2: And uncle is up next and they've discussed the Reddit 900 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 2: posts and stuff together. 901 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: That's who she was doing in the comments with. So 902 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: it seems like Redda is helping. Reddit's helping. 903 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: And I love the fact that the uncle is like 904 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: sitting down and like discussing this stuff really good. 905 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: No, no, I think it's the dad. Oh the dad. 906 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, I mean better than better 907 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: than nothing. Yeah, dad's acting like a dummy, But it 908 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: does seem he is like apologizing for for when I 909 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: had to What is it? 910 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: But there's a little, yeah, a little like what I 911 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: had to. 912 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 4: Everyone is so heated with the story. 913 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Op's mom is going to get me a record 914 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: and my own true crime podcast. Yeah, people are trigger warning, Yes, 915 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: trigger warning for crappy mother. I mean I guess well 916 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: update by Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to 917 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: these stories. But here's three of its dads from our 918 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: sponsors that keep the show alive, so some stuff happened. 919 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: I've pretty much just been texting with my mom since 920 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: my visit to her. I try to keep it to 921 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: good night, good morning. But when I didn't respond to 922 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: her other messages, she phoned my dad and he told 923 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: me I didn't have to phone her, but to at 924 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: least respond to her other messages. I did have to 925 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: go to the Victoria for Thanksgiving because her wife's whole 926 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: family was going to be there, and she told my 927 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: dad I had to go again. When the wife's whole 928 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: family is there, who needs to show up? Ope? Like magic? Yeah, 929 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: it's all postering. 930 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 5: Ooh. 931 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I was only there for three days with my cousin, 932 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: and the first two days my mom pretty much spent 933 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: with me and it was like it used to be again, 934 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: like she and I went shopping, we even cuddled to 935 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: sleep watching TV again. But the third day dinner, wife 936 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: were focused on the dinner and the guests and everything, 937 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: So I get it. Yeah, I was upset that she 938 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: paid really little attention to me, but her wife's entire 939 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: immediate family was there, and I get that she needed 940 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: to focus on them. But when we left after dinner, 941 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: we had to take the really late ferry. My mom 942 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 1: said bye and she was going to book a meeting 943 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: at a University of Victoria to take me two and 944 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: didn't even give me a second to talk about it 945 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: before waving us goodbye. And then it went back just 946 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: texting good morning, good night until my birthday. So literally, 947 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: when there needs to be a performance, the mom's like, oh, like, 948 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: let's have the perfect day. And as soon dude, as 949 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: Opie's gone out of sight, out of mind Emmy Award 950 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: winning performances. When when something Emmy Awards. 951 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 6: Old, Yes, I would love to plant like an audio 952 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 6: something so we could hear what this mom says about 953 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 6: her kid whenever she's not around. 954 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So then my mom and her wife came 955 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: with my wife's parents because my mom was like, they 956 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: really wanted to celebrate my birthday again. The wife's parents 957 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: are there. Yep, I guess they're my step grandparents, but 958 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: I really like them and they seem to really like 959 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: me too. I mean, step grandma said the best thing 960 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: about the wedding was that they finally got a grandchild 961 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: and they brought a lot of presents for me. The 962 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: step grandparents, they have a niece around my age and 963 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: they had her go out with them and just get 964 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: so much stuff, and they think someone my age will 965 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: like it, and I do like it. My mom got 966 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: me an album of pictures of us and said to 967 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: look at the photos whenever I miss her, because it'll 968 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: make it like he's right there with me. 969 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: No. 970 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: At the party, Mom and Dad seemed to get along 971 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: just like when they were married, like they were laughing, 972 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: telling jokes, even had me do goofy pictures with them 973 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: like we all used to. Mom's wife got along with 974 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: Dad's fiance and with my uncle, his son, and his 975 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: son's wife. My mom didn't talk to my uncle at 976 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: all beyond when he came to say hi to her, 977 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: and she said hi and a really mean tone to him, 978 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: which was weird since they used to be so close. 979 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: I guess she's still mad at him for when I 980 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: talked to him about what was going on. She was 981 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: really weird with my boyfriend and was non stop making 982 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: jokes about him and me getting married and making her grandma. 983 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: She straight up said to him, I don't want you 984 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: to wait until I'm gray and in my forties to 985 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: make me a grandma. But his mom also got into 986 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: the jokes, so I guess it was just a mom thing. 987 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: My mom and her wife left after only about an 988 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: hour and a half to go stay at a fancy 989 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: hotel all the way over in Cole Harbor, even though 990 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: my dad did offer them a room. 991 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 2: Cole Harbor ninety five percent complete halfway through the final episode. 992 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Good. Mom just said she doesn't feel it'd 993 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: be appropriate to stay in the same house as him, 994 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: and it's too painful for her because he designed the house. 995 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: When I asked her why she couldn't stay, So I guess, 996 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to stay in the same house 997 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: as husband. It had missed me off because they came 998 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: at four and so when everyone was setting up, so 999 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: I guess that means they missed the actual party. My 1000 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: step grandparents stayed though, and only left in the morning 1001 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: when my mom and her wife came to pick them up. 1002 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: Then at eight thirty, my mom did a FaceTime with me, 1003 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: but it looked like she and her wife were in 1004 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: the hotel, spa or something. Doesn't make sense because I 1005 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: thought those clothes pretty early in the day, but they 1006 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: were wearing those robes and looked like they were someplace 1007 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: really fancy. Then my mom was like she has to 1008 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: hang up because she doesn't want me to see them 1009 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: without clothes on. Weird, and they were both giggling at that. 1010 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: That really effing pissed me off. And they ditched my 1011 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: birthday to go hang out in a spa. Yep, yeah, 1012 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: here we are again. Who could have predicted this? Dude, 1013 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: who could have predicted it? 1014 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 6: And close thing because like now they're about to go 1015 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 6: to a spa and not have clothes on either. I'm 1016 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 6: I'm just trying to do things. 1017 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: Riley's metaphors. This is continuing. He's diving in deep to 1018 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: the Reddit metaphors. 1019 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 5: And so the symbolism, yes, yeah, yeah, we're finally seeing 1020 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 5: underneath the clothes of what's really there, and it's a stinky, 1021 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 5: stinky body. 1022 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: Of your mother. 1023 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 5: Yep. 1024 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe they were actually doing something else, but I 1025 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: honestly don't want to even think about that beyond what 1026 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: I have to. Then there's the album that she gave 1027 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: me as a present. I didn't really think about it 1028 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: a lot then because I was happy that she came. 1029 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: But I did try yesterday because my dad's fiance was 1030 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: meeting with some of her relatives for last minute planning 1031 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: because her and dad's wedding is on Sunday. I wasn't 1032 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: with them because I studied, but when I did leave 1033 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: my room to get my charger, I heard them talking 1034 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: about me. My dad's fiance was saying the best stuff 1035 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: about me, but her relatives were saying some crappy things 1036 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: about my mom and she wasn't stopping them. So maybe 1037 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: finally everyone's seeing how crappy the mom is. Yeah, they 1038 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: understand it. Okay, this could be good, could be great. 1039 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: She was also talking about how my mom is forcing 1040 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: my dad's hand to send me to her over winter 1041 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: break instead of my uncles because that's when their honeymoon is. 1042 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to spy, and I get now that 1043 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: i'm writing about it that what they were saying wasn't 1044 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: exactly wrong, and they were only saying because they didn't 1045 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: think i'd hear it really having pissed me off and 1046 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: still does. I was upset, and I looked at the album, 1047 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: and it's pictures of both of us, my mom and I, 1048 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: from when I was a baby until now, and behind 1049 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: each picture she slid a note about why the memory 1050 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: is special or what the picture means to her if 1051 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: she can't remember. But It just made me angry because 1052 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: of how few photos there are from after she moved 1053 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: to Victoria. Most of them are ones from the wedding 1054 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: day and barely anything before that, so it's like she 1055 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 1: just started collecting these photos once she needed to yes 1056 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: to prove to this to the fiance's parents. There's only 1057 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: one photo in it that was like a month before 1058 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: she came out, and it's when she lived in my 1059 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: cousin's house, and pretty much I surprised her with cookies 1060 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: that my cousin and I made that day. When I 1061 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: surprised her, she hugged me so tight and told me 1062 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: she was proud of me. My cousin took the photo 1063 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: on her phone. But that night I found her crying 1064 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: in a room and she said it's because I'm growing up, 1065 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: and said something like how she wishes she could live 1066 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: in the moments like that forever and she's so proud 1067 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: of me. And it makes me so mad because that's 1068 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: what I want back. And the fact that I'm not 1069 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: even in photos of her pre wedding events and reception 1070 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: and so much other stuff in Victoria just makes it 1071 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: seem as if it's an album giving proof that I've 1072 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: barely been in her life and that I should be 1073 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: happy for it. And I know I shouldn't be thinking that, 1074 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: because she's actually gave me a good gift and I'm 1075 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: poisoning it with my own mindstead value it and all 1076 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: the memories inside. But my therapist has been trying to 1077 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: help me define life without her, and it's hard because 1078 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to, because I can't let go of 1079 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: this feeling that it could be good again, and I 1080 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: don't want those people to be right. But my therapist 1081 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: says it's all right to want that, but for my 1082 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: own sake, I need to in case it doesn't ever 1083 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: happen again, and it will help once I'm in university. 1084 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: So I've been trying, but I hate it. So I 1085 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 1: guess I came here to ask for advice and stuff 1086 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: I can bring into therapy. There's another update. The day 1087 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: after my dad and his fiance got married, I guess 1088 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: she's also my stepmom. Now. I had to go to 1089 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: Victoria because my mom wanted me there. My cousin was 1090 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: supposed to come, but she changed plans because her boyfriend 1091 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: got time off work, so they went to Whistler instead. 1092 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: When I got to my mom's house. I was there 1093 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: for half an hour and found out my mom and 1094 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: her wife were going to Ottawa for her wife's job, 1095 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: so I'd be staying with my step grandparents until Christmas weekend. 1096 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 1: I call them step grandparents here because it makes sense 1097 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: for some reason, but in real life I've started calling 1098 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: them Nana and Papa. I'll be honest. I had so 1099 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: much fun with them. I really love them both so much. 1100 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: Step Grandpa loves basketball as well, and he's also a 1101 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: Lakers fan. Step Grandma taught me how to knit. I'm 1102 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: not that good, and they made me amazing breakfast and 1103 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: lunch every day was there. We would go out for 1104 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: dinner every night. And they live even closer to you 1105 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: Vic than my mom does. So they said if I 1106 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: go there, they turn a room in a study room 1107 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: for me. 1108 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 3: Oh. 1109 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: The thing is, when my mom came back and I 1110 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: went back there, she told me that she found out 1111 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: while in Ottawa that they got a new car for 1112 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: me for Christmas. 1113 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: Whoa the grandparents, dude, they are She's got now her 1114 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: own like sick room, a study room and a new car. 1115 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 2: Finally someone that actually, yeah, dude, yeah, the dark that 1116 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,439 Speaker 2: is so that is some symbolism right there. Dude, Riley 1117 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: went from finding. 1118 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: Dude, Oh my god, Riley's an artist right here. With 1119 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: this story. Mom was kind of angry because she thinks 1120 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: it's too much, and I was honestly just scared because 1121 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: I've never had something so expensive. The mom's pissed, but 1122 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: my mom talked to that with my dad and apparently 1123 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: it's all right. So on Christmas, they bought me the 1124 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: car and it was really cool. I was so nervous 1125 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: to drive it, but I do like it. I left 1126 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: in Victoria because I don't want to drive it myself yet, 1127 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: and my mom got me a lot of presents, and 1128 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean a lot. There was so much there it 1129 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: fell over. After Christmas, we saw the new Disney movie 1130 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: Strange World, because my mom and I both love those 1131 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of movies, and in it, the main character is 1132 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 1: a teenager who has issues with his dad and grandpa 1133 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: and he's also attracted the same gender, but it's just 1134 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: who he is and it's handled like a normal movie. 1135 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: But as soon as it became clear he was attracted 1136 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: the same gender, my mom got really quiet and just 1137 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: kind of shut down. She just went to her room. 1138 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: When the movie was done. Didn't even say good night 1139 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: to me. When I went to brush my teeth, I 1140 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: could hear crying really badly to her wife, and I 1141 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: know I should spy, but I just had to. He 1142 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 1: was crying about how it's so normal now and how 1143 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: she wishes she could have come out as a teenager 1144 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: and lived her life the way he should have, and 1145 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: how she and her wife could have gotten married way before. 1146 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: I felt really bad, and then I heard her talk 1147 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: about how many years he wasted as a soccer mom, 1148 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: and I got mad as well and just went to 1149 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,280 Speaker 1: my room. I was kind of prepared to argue about 1150 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: the movie the next morning, but my mom didn't even 1151 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: come out of her room. Her wife said she was 1152 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: feeling sick, and I went to say good She stopped 1153 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: me because she was like, my mom doesn't want me 1154 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: to see her like that. I heard my mom throwing up, 1155 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: and when I said good morning through the door, just 1156 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: checking her, she said it back, but then started crying 1157 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: again really loudly, and had her wife take me away 1158 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: because she said she can't let me see her cry. 1159 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: I just stayed watching TV after that because I felt 1160 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: really bad, because it was my idea to watch that movie. 1161 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: Her wife kept going back and forth and try to 1162 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: get her somebody to eat, and apparently she ate some bread, 1163 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: but then she threw that up too. Then my step 1164 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: grandparents came because they were worried, and they went driving 1165 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: with me to distract me. They went to Dairy Queen 1166 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: even though it was really cold, and it did get 1167 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: my mind off things. And still step grandpa answered a 1168 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: call from my mom's wife. Then he was telling her 1169 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: to take my mom to the hospital. But I heard 1170 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: her mention how my mom would rather pass away than 1171 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: go there, and how she didn't see her parents in 1172 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: the hospital and didn't even go to see me. So 1173 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: I think maybe the mom is feeling bad. Oh, maybe 1174 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: the mom is actually really a afraid of hospitals, as 1175 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: a fairy of hospitals, because she said, yeah, I didn't 1176 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: go to see op and I didn't go to see 1177 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: the parents. 1178 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm That's what it sounds like to me too. 1179 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 2: She has some sort of hospital phobia. 1180 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: When my step grandparents asked if that was true, I 1181 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: said it was about me, and I tried not to, 1182 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: but I did cry. It got me to stop, and 1183 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: I feel effing embarrassed that I cried in front of them, 1184 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: but we had a good day together. When my step 1185 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: grandparents dropped me off, my mom was on the couch 1186 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: and called me over. She then gave me such a 1187 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: big hug, but it was like she was holding in tears. 1188 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: He told me that she wasn't feeling good at all 1189 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: and asked if I wouldn't mind going back to my 1190 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: step grandparents. The day after, her wife said that maybe 1191 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 1: they should send me back to Vancouver and I could 1192 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: stay with my uncle, and my mom just got so angry. 1193 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: I actually got really scared. They're just sending ope everywhere. 1194 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: She went on a rant about how she's not going 1195 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: to let me see him, and how he's been trying 1196 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: to turn me against her, and he just hates her 1197 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: because she doesn't have AIDS trauma that it makes sense 1198 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: because my uncle doesn't have AIDS, and she said he 1199 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: needs to get over himself and remember that my is 1200 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: his brother, not his son, and to focus on his 1201 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 1: actual granddaughter. I feel like she's mad because the uncle 1202 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: is showing them up and being a good parental figure 1203 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: over her exactly. 1204 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 2: She's like, Oh, you're gonna make me look bad because 1205 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, I know I'm being a crap mom, and 1206 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 2: here we are being a great uncle and actually caring 1207 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 2: for her. 1208 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: Who Yeah, they feel threatened, Yes, feel threatened one thousand percent. 1209 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: Her wife tried to calm her down, but then she 1210 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,479 Speaker 1: just yelled out that she wishes that my uncle would 1211 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: just effing pass away. That was the worst decision of 1212 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: her life to pity my dad and to not just 1213 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: take me with her when she left. I really didn't 1214 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: know that she hated him that much. Like when I 1215 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: was younger. They were always so close and Dad would 1216 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: even joke sometimes about her stealing his brother. I honestly 1217 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: started crying really badly because he is my favorite uncle. 1218 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: But that just made my mom angrier, and she was 1219 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: like to her wife that it just proves that nobody 1220 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: understands and that my uncle is trying to steal me 1221 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: because I'm the best thing in her life. Maybe you 1222 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 1: should just be a better mam. Then she actually yelled 1223 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,959 Speaker 1: at me to effing's up, crying that I cried more 1224 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: than I did when I was a baby, and she 1225 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: said the thing about me not getting a husband again. 1226 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: Her wife just took my mom to their room and 1227 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: they left me on the couch. I didn't know, I 1228 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: just couldn't stop crying, and I just fell asleep there 1229 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't feel like I could move. In the morning, 1230 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: I woke up and was still on the couch, but 1231 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: there was a blanket on me and my head was 1232 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 1: in my mom's lap. I really felt like crying again, 1233 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: but I held it in. Then my mom actually said sorry. See, 1234 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: she said she doesn't know what's been happening to her 1235 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: since we saw the movie, but it was no excuse 1236 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: to yell at me for crying. She was so sorry 1237 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: that she hurt me so badly, and she was starting 1238 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: to understand how horrible she's been to me over the 1239 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: entire winter break, how about the entire couple years. Yes, 1240 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's not just acknowledge this little thing. 1241 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 2: And also it just feels so disingenuine and just like, oh, 1242 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: apologize to just be able to go right back to 1243 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: it exactly, it's like, actually make a change. 1244 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:55,439 Speaker 1: Yes. 1245 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 6: Also, I just I'm looking through some of the comments. 1246 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 6: She's only thirty five turning thirty six. 1247 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: The mom moves, Oh so she had op like pretty 1248 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: young twwenty Oh wow. She called her wife over and 1249 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: made her apologize to me too. After breakfast. We had 1250 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: a really big, long talk about how she was feeling. 1251 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: She seemed really sorry and said she would never get 1252 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: mad at me for crying again. But what mattered to 1253 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: me when she said she was sorry that she took 1254 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: out all her anger on my uncle and put it 1255 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: on me. He said it was wrong to do that 1256 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: and wrong to let me know how she feels, because 1257 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: it would be wrong to make me stop loving him good. 1258 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: He said, she knows I might not forgive her, but 1259 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: even if I do, she'll never forgive herself. He promised 1260 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: to try to change back to who I need her 1261 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: to be so we can get back to normal. She 1262 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: did offer to let me go to him, and I 1263 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't say yes, but I kind 1264 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: of felt like I still had to stay. I talked 1265 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: to her wife, too, and she said he was really 1266 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: sorry for what happened because she'd never seen my mom 1267 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: that way before. Just wanted to calm things down. She 1268 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 1: told me she was wrong not to take my side, 1269 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: and apparently my mom was mad at her for not 1270 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: doing that. He felt really guilty, and she's the one 1271 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: that put the blanket on me. She stayed by me 1272 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: until four am, when my mom came and took over. 1273 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: She also said she'd do whatever it took to get 1274 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: my forgiveness and wished she'd never hurt me. She told 1275 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: me I've been become such an important part of her 1276 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: life and she's so grateful. I love her parents. For 1277 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the break, my mom didn't really talk 1278 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: that much. She did start eating, but it wasn't that much. 1279 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: My step grandparents came over every day to check on me. 1280 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: Thank God the step grandparents are there. Mom did seem 1281 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: to get a little bit better on New Year's and 1282 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: every time I'd ask how she felt, though, you'd just 1283 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: say she's fine, and it's her job to worry about me, 1284 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: not the other way around. But you're not giving op 1285 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities to not worry about you. 1286 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1287 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: I did go home the day after New Year's because 1288 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: school was starting, but I had to go back on Friday. 1289 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: I just got back Sunday night because I had a 1290 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: meeting at UVic. Mom seemed really different when I saw 1291 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: her again. She seems smaller now, and she definitely looks skinnier. 1292 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: I know it's been only two weeks, but she seems 1293 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: skinnier and she still seems sad, but like she was 1294 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: at least pretending to be happy. The meeting at YUVIC 1295 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: went really well, and it really does seem like an 1296 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,919 Speaker 1: amazing place to go to school. Even though I don't 1297 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: know if I want to do engineering anymore, there's still 1298 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot there. My mom did make me sign up 1299 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: to go check up UBCs if you len Gara Langera 1300 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: as well. She also said she's going with her wife 1301 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: to Ontario in February and we could do a road 1302 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: trip together while her wife is working. We can check 1303 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: out other universities like Waterloo, McMaster and uf T. She 1304 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: said she wanted me to know I can choose to 1305 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: go to them, but she's confident that I'll come to her, 1306 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and I'm confident that it'll come to us. For full 1307 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: episodes of stories, just like this, but maybe a little 1308 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: less stressful, just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your 1309 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 1: favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's another elevant update, 1310 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: but let's discuss. Oh, it's been a journey. I don't 1311 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: even know if we're turning a full leaf here. 1312 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I mean, I think we 1313 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 2: have the uncle, we have the step grandparents, so you 1314 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: have the step grandparents. I think it's honestly, op sixteen, 1315 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I think this is the beginning of a long journey 1316 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 2: to get to a place where she can kind of 1317 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 2: realizes what the mom is doing and figures out the 1318 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 2: right balance of like, you know, engaging with her, but 1319 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: then more importantly, getting the actual love, care and attention 1320 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 2: from the people who do love her and care for 1321 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 2: her like like they should. 1322 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like, I feel like OPI is on 1323 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: the path, but I think it's going to take some Yeah, 1324 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: it's going to take some time. And I really do 1325 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: think she just needs to distance herself from her mom. 1326 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is a mess. Live with Gary, live with uncle, yeah. Yeah. 1327 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: But aside from the meeting, he didn't leave home at all. 1328 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: I did get to hang out with my step grandparents. 1329 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: When I was there, she couddled me almost the entire 1330 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: day unless we were eating. Her wife told me she 1331 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: was working from home. I don't know what to make 1332 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: of any of it, Like if this means I'm getting 1333 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: my mom back like she used to be, or she's 1334 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: going to keep changing, or she's depressed now. I wasn't 1335 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: planning on posting, but I feel like I need people's 1336 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: opinions on what could be happening to her, and that 1337 01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: is where that story ends. Benito, whoo who baby, So 1338 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: let us know what you think op should do. Please. 1339 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I feel like Opie needs distance from the mom. Stay 1340 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: with the step grandparents, stay with the uncle. But I think, 1341 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: get away from all these terrible adults that they're giving 1342 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: you so much bad advice. Get therapy. Get your mom 1343 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: to get therapy, got everyone, get your daddy, get therapy. Yeah, 1344 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: everyone needs it, but I think the therapist is right, like, 1345 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: see what your life is without your mom, because I 1346 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: feel like she's just giving her nothing but pain. Agreed, 1347 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: that is where that story ends. So if you love us, 1348 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: makes her to subscribe. We love you and see it 1349 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow