1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: have a special guest, Blake moins Is. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 3: On Ashley's birthday was yesterday. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 4: So birthday did you do anything? Did you do? What 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 4: did you do for anything? Fun? 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 5: Well, Ben, I needed to tell you this. I had 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 5: the worst massage of my life. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Blake. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: He's a massage guy, Like he goes to a massage 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: like once a week or like he's had points in 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: his life where he's done that, and like he he 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: gives the best massages too. So anyway, yesterday, Ben, it 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: was like the woman was applying just suntand lotion to 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: me for like an hour. 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 5: Okay, it was just all she did. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: So go like this and I'm like what and I 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: this is a good conversation topic. 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 5: But do you tell them you need more pressure? 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: No, that's one thing I don't have have in me. 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: I can if they ask, I feel like it's appropriately 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: be like yeah, deeper, yeah, but they they There's been 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: many occasions to that stand out. I guess Jess just 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: had one of these where like you've get gotten a 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: really bad massage and it's mostly like the hardest hour 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: of your life, because you're like, I was looking forward 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: to this for so long. 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: The hardest hour of your life. 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: And you're like, this is just awkward. I have some 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: humans just like petting me. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: That is exactly what it was. And then the light 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: was on and I'm just like, I feel so weird. 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: She's just like gracing my skin. It was the weirdest thing. 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 4: You like, this is why this is what you do. 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: You need to go in and book a deep tissue 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: to let off light. 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: Okay, exactly, I think we should keep this all in. 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: This is the way that we. 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Were starting this podcast guys, with Blake Moy's welcome, We're 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: talking about massages. I felt the same way Blake. I 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: was like, I could tell them to just you know, 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: a little bit less. But then I've never been in 44 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: the situation where I had to say a little more, 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: and especially since I'm pregnant and it was a prenatal massage, 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know whether she was just trying to be 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: delicate with me. And I'll say this, so it was 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: like five minutes in that she asked about the pressure, 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: and at that point she had just done like my 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: my back, like my shoulders, and I was thinking like, Okay, well, 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: maybe she's being super gentle because it's prenatal. So that's 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: why I especially said, yeah, that's good. But then as 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: soon as she started doing other regions and it was 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: truly just like applying suntand lotion on me, I was 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: just like, I made a mistake. 56 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: What is like, Okay, so I see prenatal in there 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: when I like sign up? What what did they like? 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: Why do they need to right? 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 5: What is the difference? 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure except for the fact that like it 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: comes with all like the cushions, so like there's the 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: belly slot and there's like a booby slot, and that's 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: really nice. But in the other prenatal massages I've had before, 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: which is only even two, they felt very just normal 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: except for the cushions. 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: Ashley, we still want to wish you the happiest of birthdays, 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: because you deserve to be celebrated. We are very happy 68 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: you were born. We mean that. I'm sorry about yesterday. 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: I would just it was. 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 5: A fun story and I was like, this is great content. 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: Here's the best way to fix the problem that exists 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: right now. Just book yourself another massage. 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: Go do it. 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Again, just go for it. Why not you deserve it? Blake, 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: You're with us today to talk about a lot of things, 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: love life, but also the strip that you just got 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: back from from South Africa was Zach Clark. Zach Clark 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: came onto the podcast a few months ago. Just an 79 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: incredible episode, not because there's a lot of juice that 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: came from it, but there's a lot of honesty that 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: came from it. Can you kind of give us a 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: rundown just for those who are not aware and maybe 83 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: don't follow you on social what you were doing in 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: South Africa? Why Zach came? 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: What is it all about? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 4: So I just got back and I leave tomorrow for 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: another exhibition. But yeah, South Africa was one hundred kilometers 88 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 4: bike run, kayak and endurance challenge over three four days 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: to raise money for an organization out there that's trying 90 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: to purchase land to connect protected areas for wildlife together 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: to make bigger areas for wallet because right now everything's fragmented, 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: so there's protected area, agriculture, human disturbance that blocks them 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: from getting to the other protected area, and you need 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: these areas all connected for biodiversity to thrive to elephants 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: to be able to migrate all of these things. So 96 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: it was a fundraiser through challenge and Zach came along 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: with me to do that one because he's one that 98 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: would actually love to do it. Yeah, because these things 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: aren't for everybody being in that environment. And then the 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: one hundred clumbers. He's also a runner, so I felt like, 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: you know, he was a great one to tag along 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: because if you have the bad apple out there who 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: just isn't into it when they get out there, it 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: can ruin everything for everybody. So he was a great 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: person to come along and do that and just we're 106 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: we've been very tight since the since the show three 107 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: years ago. So yeah, that's why it was him because 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: he gets. 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: Well we saw in your social media at least I 110 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: did a video of you crashing. So my big question 111 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: for you is did you finish this challenge? And do 112 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: you have a broken hip? 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: No? I don't actually have a broken hip. It was 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: more like an embellishment exaggeration of how hard I fell. 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: I did technically finish. I came ten k short on 116 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: the run. The last day was a thirty four kilometer 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: like marathon run. 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, this is my life. 119 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 4: I've never trained, so I never have ran more than 120 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: two point five k ever in one so so then 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I tried to do this and 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: my feet so I don't. I don't know if you 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: guys remember there was a huge infection I had when 124 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: I did my wildlife training last year where I like 125 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: almost lost my foot due to blistering and infection that 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: set in. I had to get surgery in South Africa 127 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: last year. So when this started setting in and I 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: got all the blisters on the bottom of my feet 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: twenty k in, I went to the doctors like, listen, 130 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: I can't afford to do this. I have another expedition 131 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 4: coming up. They're like, hey, well, probably smart to pull out. 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 4: We'll treat the bottom of your feet and get rid 133 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: of these blisters so you're able to go. So technically 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: ten k short out of the one hundred, which unfortunate, 135 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: but it is what it is. I had to be 136 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: smart about it. 137 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: Sure that makes complete sense. Don't lose your foot over this. 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: There's a lot of did Zach finish though? 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: Did he did? He's strong runner, right, So when it 140 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: came to the last day of one, was It was 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: funny though, put him on the bike, cause I have 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: a ton of experience in the kayak, in the biking aspect, 143 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: just through all the schooling and the stuff that I've 144 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: been through. So it was funny seeing him on a 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: bike getting used to that, and then funny enough, I'm 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: the one who crashes and makes a fool of myself 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: on it. 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: But I was so hard actually, I don't know if 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: you saw this, I will say this, what you know, 150 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: Blake's life is one that's admirable. I enjoy the content. 151 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: You're an idiot. Honestly, I was watching this. I was like, 152 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: this dude is going down a mountain side filming himself 153 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: and it's not just like a like when I was 154 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: in Peru for a while we did like a bike 155 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: ride now in like the most dangerous road. This was 156 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: not a road. This was a rocky path and Blake 157 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: is filming himself and I'm like this, what is he 158 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: thinking is going to happen here? Like there's no way 159 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: this does not end how it did. 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: The thing is is there was a break where it 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: was when you're going so fast and he've never been 162 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: on this trail before, there was like what I could 163 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: see not as rocky was a little bit and then 164 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like it's changed, the terrain changed 165 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: and you have one hand on and you're like and 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know we'll switch is head 167 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: over heels. 168 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm good you, I'm glad You're okay though, So I 169 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: just wanted to say I wanted to get it out 170 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: there that like, if if we were closer and your 171 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: friend of mine, I would have texted you been like 172 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: what were you thinking? But I get to tell you here. 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: I got enough of those anyways, so it's okay. 174 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: Did you and Zach like sit together on the long 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: plane ride? 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: I was traveling with Zach uh Zach's Zach is just 177 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: so even keel, calm and everything. He's the he was 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 4: the easiest to travel with. We didn't get to sit together. 179 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: He had a like not the not the he had 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: a seat up, like an upgrade up because he, I guess, 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: travels with United all the time, so I an economy. 182 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: Same with Ben. Ben gets upgrade all the time because 183 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: his United miles are like, well okay, yeah, he logs 184 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: them every other day. The man is on a United 185 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: plan every other day just. 186 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: To get upgraded. That's all I want to do. Actually, 187 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: I just want to get upgraded all the time. 188 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: A bit about that though, I get it. 189 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, Blake, as we kind of close up, what's 190 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: this next expedition? You know, I'm curious kind of what 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: is life looking like for you? And you're going on 192 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: these expeditions and you're raising funds for wildlife protection and 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: these protected areas and these animals, but kind of how 194 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: does life look on a day to day basis? Like 195 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: make it make sense all of us? 196 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: Okay, So how do I explain this and short? The 197 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: next expedition I'm going on is tomorrow. We're running. I 198 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: partner with nonprofit organizations to help get funding for them. 199 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: That happens in a bunch of different ways. One being expeditions. 200 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: So we bring people along on conservation impact style expeditions 201 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: where they get to interact with animals, sometimes get hands 202 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: on and some of the research and all that stuff. 203 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: And so I run a bunch of these. We have 204 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: a bunch more coming up. We're about to launch three 205 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: shark ones back to back in Florida of South Africa 206 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: in May. I have another trip to Kenya right after that, 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: where we're doing work with elephants and putting satellite callers 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: on elephants for tracking and research purposes. So it's expedition 209 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: or research project one after another with nonprofit organizations for 210 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: the most part, and that's kind of my life is 211 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: traveling and doing this work. But it's also a lifestyle. 212 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: So it's been really rewarding to be able to make 213 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: work my passion and then it also gives back. So 214 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: that's really takes me away from the life that I 215 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: have had here and which also makes it difficult to 216 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: find somebody in this lifestyle. The partner, my partner would 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: need to be on board, and it just doesn't seem 218 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: like it's easy to find. 219 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we want to get into that in a second, 220 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: but we also I want to ask you, and we 221 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: know that you were involved with wildlife before the show, 222 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: but would you have been able to do these partnerships 223 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: so successfully if it for it? 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: No, the show, I mean, the show has been a 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 4: massive part in letting that all play out. I was 226 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: always involved in wildlife, but not to the stream of 227 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: exotics and be able to work with nonprofits for conservation 228 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: because if very quick. 229 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: Now you're like the celebrity contest well, not contestant, but 230 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: like participant. 231 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so realistically, I mean what it comes down 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: to is the value liese in voice. There's just not 233 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: voices in conservation or want to dedicate their time to that. 234 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: So the partnership is very mutual, and so my value 235 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: is that voice and be able to uplift and provide 236 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: a voice for their initiatives and projects. So yeah, the 237 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: show has definitely helped in that capacity. Now it's just 238 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: sustained itself because of all the shit that I've been 239 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: doing for two years that have I wouldn't say classifies 240 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: me as an expert, but I've been in master classes 241 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: now with you know, Shark Week experts and people that 242 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: have expertise and rhinos and elephants and translocations and vet work. 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: So I have now very very good understanding and knowledge 244 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: base and that can just continues as I continue to 245 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: do all this work in all these different specialties. 246 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: Where does this lead? Like kind of where do you 247 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: see yourself with this in five years? What are you 248 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: working towards? 249 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: So I mean interestingly enough, and I haven't necessarily signed NDA, 250 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: so I can speak on a little bit. We just 251 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: got back from Peru and Bolivia, but Perue. Mostly we're 252 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: in the infancy stage and we have funding to start 253 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: shooting a long feature documentary with some good backing and 254 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: some already a lot of interest from some networks, which 255 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: is great and it's good be mission driven. So there's 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: that we're working on in the background, aside from all 257 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: the exhibitions and stuff that I'm doing. There's a couple 258 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: lines in the water just in terms of other potential 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: TV appearance things in this space as well too that 260 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: I can't speak on right now, but there's things happening 261 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 4: on that front. So you know, I don't know exactly 262 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: what things look like in the wildlife space, but I 263 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: would say that there's more I do this, the more 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: interest there is in that, and a lot of reach 265 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: outs are coming from the TV space, but just expedition 266 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: is nonprofits, all these things, so I just continue to 267 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: continue to see it kind of flourish in that direction. 268 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 5: Now to dating. So it sounds the way you disworded it. 269 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: In your tone, that like it's unfortunate for you that 270 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: you are having a hard time finding somebody who's okay 271 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: with the lifestyle. 272 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: That yes, that, but I also am finding a hard 273 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: time how do you prioritize both right? Both require lots 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: of effort and time. One's the stuff that I'm doing 275 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: right now, which is taken up all of my time, 276 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 4: and so it's hard to then break off of that 277 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: and be able to give effort and time to letting 278 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: a relationship first connection happen to an extent where you 279 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: want to then put in the work for it to 280 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: make it blossom. And so it's hard to do both 281 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: of those things. Sometimes I'm remote and I can't even communicate, 282 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: So how do you even get a relationship going at 283 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: that point or a connection going? And then how do 284 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: you maintain and sustain it when other people have needs? 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: And if I can't, it's been hard to manage both. 286 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes I get excited about a certain person that I'm 287 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: dating or seeing, and then I'm off for three weeks 288 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: and it kind of might dissipate, or you know, sometimes 289 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: I feel like I have an obligation once you start 290 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: connecting with somebody to try to provide, and you're not 291 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: providing emotionally or like getting to texts or getting to 292 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: calls or being physically present. So I'm finding there's a 293 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: balance there, and I'm not balancing it very well right now, 294 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: and so I don't know where it goes, to be honest, 295 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: right now, I'm kind of lost in the relationship space 296 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: and how to go about it. 297 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Is it one of the reasons why you went on 298 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Paradise was the idea that you would be able to 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: focus on it for a bit and then did I mean, 300 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: I guess it's a two part or if something from 301 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: Paradise would have worked out for you, like, how do 302 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: you think that works out in the real world? 303 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: Then yeah, So to that two part question, I in 304 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: this really really weird way we have. I mean, and 305 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: you probably both know this. Even though you're in relationships, 306 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: there are so many distractions in everyday life right now 307 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: that it's the I find it's the hardest to actually 308 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: connect and then maintain before something like fizzled out. There's 309 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: so many distractions, whether it's work, other people, dating apps, 310 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: all of these things. Weirdly enough, Paradise for the amount 311 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: the time that we're there every day, no phones, no music, 312 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: no job I can go to, no business stuff, no 313 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: other distraction aside from other women coming down. You literally 314 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: are That's what we need nowadays. Put the phones away 315 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: all and just focus on that person. That's why I 316 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: was able to develop feelings for Jesh, which was so nice. 317 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: I remember them being like thinking that I was going 318 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: to be walking away with her, and things obviously didn't 319 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: turn out that way. But yeah, I loved Paradise for 320 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: that because it forced you to get away from the 321 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: that doesn't allow us to connect nowadays, right, all the distractions. 322 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: They're all so loved it for that. The second part 323 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: was you asked how would it have worked out? 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 325 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: Good question. I don't really know what I could say. 326 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: I think to that is, I also do have the 327 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: ability to bring people along with me and my partner 328 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: or along with me on these things. Would they be 329 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: able to at every time? 330 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 6: Know? 331 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: But I would be able to have them come for 332 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: whatever they wanted to. Would I also try to maybe 333 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: dial back the amount that I'm away, Yes, especially if 334 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: I really believed in that relationship. So I don't know, 335 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: but I think that the issue here is trying to 336 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: find a connection where I then have to make that 337 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: decision right now. Mection that reform. Never had to think 338 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: about it. But I think if someone really made sense 339 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: for me, I would find a way to pull away 340 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: from you know, these guys here a little bit then, 341 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 4: and and you know, and find that space for to 342 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: be able to give enough of that to foster that 343 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 4: relationship which had to make that decision yet. 344 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: No, but it's it's I like the way you talk 345 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: about it. It's sweet, Like you can definitely tell it's 346 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: a priority in life, as you could tell on the 347 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: show that it was a priority in life for you. 348 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: I've been a relationship person all of my twenties two 349 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: and a half years, two years, three years, three and 350 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: a half years, and then the show. Stuff has happened 351 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: and it has made things and it's been difficult, it's 352 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: been challenging. As you know, we come off the show. 353 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: There's just it's just everything's weird. It's different, you look 354 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 4: at things different. There's so I am a little lost 355 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: in that space for sure right now. And I and 356 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: I always used to be so confident in it. 357 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the big question then for 358 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: people that follow you are rooting for you, that are 359 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: wanting you to find what you're looking for. I know 360 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: you just said you're lost, but kind of what I'm 361 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: sure it crossed your mind. How are you seeing dating 362 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: for you in the next couple of years? You know, 363 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: how do you see that looking? 364 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: I have been trying to put myself out there more 365 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: and I have been going on dates and connecting with people, 366 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: and there's like lots of potential there. I don't. I 367 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: don't really I'm hoping ben, to be honest with you, 368 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: I'm hoping I go on one of these expeditions and 369 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: there's a girl like my space that I'm just like, wow, 370 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 4: and she gets it. She wants to be out there 371 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 4: with me and want or at least shares the same 372 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: passions though I'm out doing these things. She's like, good 373 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: for you. I wish who's like gets that feeling that 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: animals can bring to people, or those those awe aha 375 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: moments out in wild life, that like she would never 376 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: want to take those things away, or I can be 377 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: I'm just hoping I find someone in my space to 378 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 4: be honest, and hopefully I go on enough of these 379 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: that she just pops up one day. Because outside of that, 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: like being here in my hometown or wherever I'm traveling, 381 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: like it's gonna be difficult, But I don't close the 382 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: door either, right, It's like, hey, well I'm not ready. 383 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: I can't give my time to somebody yet but in 384 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: saying like, Okay, well I'm gonna stop dating, Well, I 385 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: don't want to ever close that door. That I'd be stupid, 386 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: So I keep it open and hoping that someone just 387 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: rips it wide open and gives me that feeling of like, hey, 388 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: now I'm gonna you know, because it's a disservice to 389 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: myself too, because I naturally want it. I want somebody 390 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 4: I you know, I lay in this bed, I'm and 391 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: he's watching a wrong com or whatever. I'm like, like, 392 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: I haven't had that forever. Like I love that, we 393 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: all want it, but and I would do myself a 394 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: disservice to turn that off and be like because I'm 395 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: gonna you know, I love what I do, and it's 396 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's a it's a challenge for sure. 397 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 5: Did Zach talk about his dating life at all with you? 398 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: Oh? Why did I feel like you're gonna go there? 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: I knew it. I just knew it. 400 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: Good job, Ashley. 401 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: Yes, and no, to be honest, I mean you probably 402 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: see that. I mean the rumors and all those things. 403 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: It probably plays into you know. You see, Zach doesn't 404 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: comment on all and any of those things. He's just 405 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 4: very nonchalant and the guy when I have asked, he 406 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: is very it's almost like, you don't. I don't want 407 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: to tell you anything because then you get wrapped up 408 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: in it and people know we're close, so people are 409 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: going to know that you potentially know stuff. And so 410 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: when I ask, you know, I went to the New 411 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 4: Year's thing and all that stuff, like yes, do I 412 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: know that they are hanging out and have yes? But 413 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 4: he does not give me the guts because when I 414 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: have asked, he makes it awkward and so, Okay, I'm 415 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: just not going to go there again with you. He 416 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: just doesn't want to feed and play into that, and 417 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: he's just not he's all business and he's just he's 418 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: not a very emotional guy with me in that sense. 419 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 4: But I think he also is in some way protecting 420 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: me from whatever is going on on that he doesn't 421 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: want me wrapped up in it because he knows everyone 422 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: knows we're tight, and so that I don't. It's he 423 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: makes it awkward to talk about, so we just don't 424 00:21:50,200 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: really talk about it. Well. 425 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: One of the things that's admirable about Zach too is 426 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people go through this world and then 427 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: they're looking left and right for the next headline. And yes, 428 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: a lot of what he's doing right now could create 429 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: some very spicy headlines, some headlines that would definitely attract 430 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: people to have Zach's name on their computers or on 431 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: their phones every day. I think the lack of his 432 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: interest in creating a headline as something admirable, and I 433 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: think it shows the authenticity and the genuineness to whatever 434 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: connection exists. If it does, if it doesn't, you know, 435 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: whatever comes up. I think that is something that not 436 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people in this world invest into. But 437 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: I think Zach's one of those guys, especially after you're 438 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: talking about on the podcast, that really cares about, Hey, 439 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: if I'm going to do this thing, it's not because 440 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 3: it's going to make me more money or it's going 441 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: to keep my name out there. 442 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, he is. He moves with so much bois 443 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: and just calmus, and he's so happy in his own 444 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 4: life and so wrapped up in trying to continue to 445 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: help people through Lease Recovery Foundation and all his work 446 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 4: that there's no there's no money aspect to this at all. 447 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 4: There's no ulterior motives to it, and you know, it's 448 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: just it's just part of the course with that guy. 449 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: That's why he's just easy to be around in that sense, 450 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: because there's no other noise, there's nother you just get 451 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: an actual true friends. The show stuff is just so 452 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: and the public stuff is so to the side. He's 453 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 4: just you know what I mean. So it's nice because 454 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: when I'm with him, I mean, as you probably both know, 455 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 4: once you've done this show and you're around the other 456 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: people done the show, the show is like just seems 457 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: to be always part of the conversation With Zach. I 458 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: never we never talk about the show. It's about what 459 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: he's doing. I'm doing the work. It's never show based conversation, 460 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: which is a really nice disconnect because a lot of 461 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: the times when I'm in these group settings, it always 462 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: always built the show this or that episode, and there's 463 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: none of that with him, which is such a breath 464 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 4: of fresh air. 465 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: Okay, so speaking of the show, actually I do have 466 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: one question here, speaking of the show, speaking of love, 467 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: speaking of some of our favorite people in the world, 468 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: have you and Rachel ever made out. 469 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: Rachel this Rachel season? 470 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 5: We know now no, Rachel Lindsay, No, sure, no, Reky Oh, 471 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: Rachel Rekia. Oh my god, how did I not. 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: On a trip together? They We talked to Rachel about 473 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: this and we she this was I think pre trip 474 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: and I see the two of them being really good together, 475 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: and so I want to know, like they spend time together, 476 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: they're friendly, they like each other. Has it ever been anything? 477 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, They've totally made I which you guys 478 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: could have seen his face. 479 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: That's no. 480 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: I swear I'm very much, very much a book, And 481 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: I would just tell you if we have. We legit 482 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: have not, but like maybe tell you if I would 483 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: tell you if we if we did, I would we 484 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: are like she is my go to She's my go 485 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: to confident with and not front okay dating. 486 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that leads in perfectly to my next question. So 487 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: your friends, you're close with Zach and with Rachel. Of 488 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: all the three seasons you've done, the Tasia, Claire, the 489 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: Katie and then Paradise, which cast would you do it 490 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: all over again with? 491 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: Mhm? 492 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: The first the first one Claire Claire. That was a 493 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: good cast. It was the most It was really good. 494 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: The guys were awesome. But you know, it's not to 495 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 4: take away from Katie's season and those guys there. But 496 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 4: you know, when you do it for the first time, 497 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: it's exciting, it's new. It's different when you When I 498 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: went back for KS, it's just like, can've been this before? 499 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 4: The same excitement wasn't there on like the experience aspect. 500 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: The excitement was there for Holy this is a really 501 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: blossom relationship with that excitement was there, but the show 502 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 4: experienced itself the first time in that cast and going 503 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: through it with everyone. 504 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: Is speaking of Tasha and clar Season Ben Smith, I 505 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: don't know how close you were, but did you see 506 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: that Britney Spears posted a picture of him. 507 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: I someone said it to me. I remember, and I 508 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: was like I didn't. I was like you, being like, what, 509 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: how what? I don't understand. I still don't. I know 510 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: he does some type of work in that space with 511 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: like musicians and things like that. 512 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: Oh really, yeah he does. 513 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: Like I know he does stuff with oh oh oh 514 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: oh DJs one of my favorites and I'm blanking on 515 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: them hard. 516 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 5: Like a big DJ, like a DJ that like is 517 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: a household name sort of thing. 518 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he travels with things that. 519 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Oh, so you're saying that it could just not be 520 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: a random photo that Brittany posted from the Internet. 521 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: I don't. Yeah, it could very well be that there's 522 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: maybe some link there where he's helping. He helps with 523 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: like not just mental health, but I think keeping people 524 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: on track, so like you know, not drinking, and they'll 525 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 4: do you know, work together and workouts on the road 526 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So I think he does stuff 527 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: in that space, so there could be some there. Maybe 528 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: he actually does work with her. I don't really know. 529 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: Oh, appreciate that insight. 530 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: I did DM him no response, but also it didn't 531 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: look like he read it. However, when he saw the 532 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: first line of the message, he definitely knew it was 533 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: about and probably didn't open it. 534 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 4: Hard to say, but that it's not that random to 535 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: me knowing that he was post there because I know 536 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: he's done space work in that space with other notable 537 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: people before. 538 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: Alrighty, and then my last question for you is just 539 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: you talk to Jess anymore? 540 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yes, yes, she she and I have It's a 541 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 4: very just good, healthy relationship. We have not explored in 542 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: a romantic sense, but I think yeah, I mean, it's 543 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: it's an interesting one, right, Like there's a general curiosity there, 544 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: but I think no, Okay, Like I said, all the 545 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: things I've already talked about, is what plays into like 546 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, the potential? I don't know. 547 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Blake, you are close with Kylie and we know 548 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: that she had quite the breakup post the airing of 549 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise. We need I'd love to know more 550 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: about this. I know that Nick had her on her 551 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: on the podcast and we got some more details about 552 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: that breakup and the cheating and all that that went down. 553 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 5: Did would there ever be a thing with you two? 554 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: Since we saw that you were so close on the 555 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: show that we thought that you were going to make. 556 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: Out when you got in the black car. 557 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: No. No, and Jess Mercedes and Kye lived together now 558 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: in San Diego. 559 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: Oh, that would be a very sloppy situation. 560 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: Very very very not one that I have the mental 561 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: capacity to handle or entertain in any way. And so no, 562 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 4: I mean from Kylie's front, she wouldn't and I wouldn't. 563 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: And no, there's nothing, nothing there. But I'm seeing the 564 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: rumors that the potentially back together are trying to make 565 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: things work again. I don't know. I've traveled so much 566 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: that I I just see the headlines. 567 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: Do you Okay? 568 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: Sorry? 569 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: As my eyes are bugging out. 570 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: Well. 571 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: Last week when we had Braydon on, he heard that 572 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: one of the the Paradise couples that had broken up 573 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: were trying to rekindle things. He teased this for us, 574 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: didn't give any names even and Kylie would have been 575 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: the last. 576 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: I would assume would be rekindling, and Blake is giving 577 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: us other information with his facial expressions right now. 578 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: No, I honestly, i'd be surprised too. I think obviously 579 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: when something like that happens, there's that's a big hurdle 580 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: to overcome to try and rekindle and trust and all 581 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: that stuff. So I'm with you, I'd be I would 582 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: be surprised, But I don't know. My my rumors are 583 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: as good as your rumors. 584 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: Who is the couple that you think could possibly get 585 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: back together? 586 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: Like, I really when I'm thinking about them, I really, 587 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: that's the only one that I feel like. 588 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 6: Was strong enough to begin with, I enough to begin 589 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 6: with to then you know, re try to even write 590 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 6: so because none of the mouse makes sense to me 591 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 6: that they would try to none stand out. 592 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: Now that we're just on the topic, I gotta throw 593 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: these names out for you. What the heck happened with 594 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: Aaron and Eliza because we saw that Eliza moved on fast. 595 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: That there's just there wasn't even an acknowledgment of the 596 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: ending of it. 597 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: It was just Yeah, she never even acknowledged him honestly 598 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: on her social media. 599 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. I know, that's an interesting one. I mean, you know, 600 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: we talked there. I have not talked to her since. 601 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: I just feel like she's really disconnected and that kind 602 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: of shows. 603 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: Okay, well, thanks for the dish. 604 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: We really are I always like a little gossip, you know, 605 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 2: I've got to throw it in there with the serious stuff. 606 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: This has been another Almost Famous podcast. We have one 607 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: of Bachination's favorites, one of the names that continues uh 608 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: to interest people not only because of who he was 609 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: on the show, but who he is outside of the show. 610 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: Blake Moys. Thanks for joining us today. 611 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's great to be here. 612 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 613 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: Bake. 614 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: All right, until next time, I've been, Ashley and. 615 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: I've been been. We'll see you later. Guys. 616 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 617 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.