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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre Street Fire for Friday,

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Speaker 2: November seventeenth. I wish I opened the podcast with better news,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, But if you watch Thursday night football,

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Speaker 2: you know it was a reminder that these primetime games,

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Speaker 2: the injuries feel magnified. We had Week one Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: goes down, done, Week two, Nick Chubb, and here we

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Speaker 2: are week eleven, Mark Andrews done for the season ankle surgery.

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Speaker 2: And the bigger one is Joe Burrow, who we may

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Speaker 2: have to start calling glass Joe hurt again. It's his risk.

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Speaker 2: There's drama, will dive all in to that Bengals. The

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Speaker 2: cover up is always worse than the crime, as they

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Speaker 2: like to say. But the Bengals lose to Baltimore thirty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty. The run of primetime unders was eleven

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Speaker 2: in a row before this one got out of hand.

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Speaker 2: Lamar look good. The Bengals did not. Joe Burrow went down.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look good. We have a great guest coming

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Speaker 2: up to break Down week eleven. Sometimes, you know, we

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Speaker 2: like to get the front facing talent sometimes. Other times

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Speaker 2: we like to get you know, guys who maybe haven't

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Speaker 2: popped yet. And sometimes we like to go behind the

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Speaker 2: glass to talk to the guys setting the lines, book makers.

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Speaker 2: And this week we are going with Bett onlines. Dave Mason.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys remember him. We had him on

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Speaker 2: last year. You guys love hearing about where the money is,

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Speaker 2: where the sharp action is. He's all over it. It

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Speaker 2: is an interesting weekend. The Sharps have been hammering the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, as expected. The public on the Cowboys, it

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Speaker 2: feels like a bit of a trap. Justin feels his back.

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Speaker 2: How much is Justin Fields worth to the spread? I

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Speaker 2: think you'll be surprised. We'll break that down, but first

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Speaker 2: we got to start with glass.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to be derogatory and come at

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow in any way, shape or for him, but

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Speaker 2: what the hell? Every year it's something with this guy.

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Speaker 2: You want to go back to his Ohio State days.

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Speaker 3: He was hurt.

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Speaker 2: You go back to the LSU game and then Natty

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Speaker 2: he got injured. The acl is a rookie, the appendectomy,

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Speaker 2: which isn't really an injury, but it's something and then

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Speaker 2: he had the calf and now it's a wrist. And

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Speaker 2: here's where the cover up is worse than the crime.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals social media feed posted video of the Bengals

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Speaker 2: getting off the bus in Baltimore business trip or as

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Speaker 2: they say, or whatever it is, and you see some

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Speaker 2: with is cool shades on, cool Joe or Joe cool,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him. And then some folks

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Speaker 2: is he wearing an embrace? What's up with that? And

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Speaker 2: everybody starts making a big to do about it, and

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Speaker 2: the Bengals decided, you know, let's just remove that video.

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Speaker 2: Let's just take that bad boy down. No response, So

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Speaker 2: Burrow starts the game. Obviously looks okay early, they take

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Speaker 2: a lead, and then the Ravens snatched the lead back

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Speaker 2: and then Burrow lands on his wrist and in what,

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Speaker 2: you know, look kind of innocuous at the time. Later,

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Speaker 2: cameras from Amazon are on the sideline. Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 2: gripping a football and trying to throw it. He gets

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Speaker 2: like whoa wait a minute. So this is the same

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Speaker 2: risk that he got off the bus with the brace on,

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Speaker 2: and that's when the can of worms is open. Like

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Speaker 2: didn miss any rips. Okay, I get that, but it's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear if you're wearing a brace off the bus, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe you had. I mean, it's not like the flight

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Speaker 2: What is that like ninety minutes?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't be much more than Vegas to

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Speaker 2: And now the questions are, so is he out? Two weeks?

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Speaker 2: Four weeks six? And folks, listen, Cincinnati Bengals were my

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Speaker 2: I had them winning the Super Bowl. I thought this

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Speaker 2: Burrow's calf and now Burrow's wrist. And listen, I've called

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Speaker 2: they used their bye week obviously back in Week seven.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh next Sunday. Then they are at Jacksonville Monday night

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Speaker 2: Football Primetime, and then it's Indye Minnesota, Pittsburgh CAC Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: The problem is Pittsburgh has a ferocious pass rush. Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: It's safe to say the Bengals ain't going to the postseason. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that ship has sailed. It's over. The division is too tough.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's got too big a lead. I know Cleveland lost Watson,

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Speaker 2: just I can't buy Joe Burrow missing any time. Here,

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Speaker 2: the kid Browning who went to Washington, he just doesn't

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Speaker 2: talking like even the indie game is going to be

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Speaker 2: a massive challenge if you don't have Joe Burrow. So

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Speaker 2: I would say it's over for the Bengals if Burrow

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Speaker 2: he gonna miss time. So it's over for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: And worse yet, if you're the Ravens, you're feeling awesome

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Speaker 2: We got the division on lock. Things are looking good,

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Speaker 2: and then you lose Mark Andrews. According to John Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: dreaded what are they call it, the hip drop where

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Speaker 2: I like the kid Lively? Is it Lively? Isaiah Lively?

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Speaker 2: Bengals stink defending tight ends and the guy gets hurt

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Speaker 2: guh listen these primetime games Thursday night football. It's never great.

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Speaker 2: I know we got we got the kid Kolar from

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Speaker 2: really hurts the Ravens. But if you're a Bengals fan today,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we got robbed as sports fans,

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Speaker 3: Like this was supposed to be the game to me

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Speaker 3: even more so than Sunday's Eagles, or is it Monday's

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Speaker 3: that felt like a bigger game because Chiefs Eagles, both

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Speaker 3: even without Joe Burrow getting hurt, it was an uphill battle.

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Speaker 3: Extremely think they would have been one to five in

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Speaker 3: Then it's tended like they're going back and forth, and

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Speaker 3: These two teams were going to be the next month

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Speaker 3: the fact that it gets marred by an injury to

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Speaker 3: you could tell as soon as it happened that Lamar

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Speaker 3: This is not just he's out for the game, he's

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Speaker 3: was serious. So you're upset for him. And then this

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow thing, My question to you is, and we

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Speaker 3: on it briefly about Joe Burrow's injury history going back

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Speaker 3: to college, like he's basically been hurt or nicked up

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Speaker 3: They gave him a new five year to seventy five

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Speaker 3: million dollar extension, two hundred and nineteen million in guarantees.

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Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow's great. I think he's the second

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Speaker 3: best quarterback in football. But at what point do you

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Speaker 3: to come back to bite him because he just can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extremely difficult. I mean, you know, to defend

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Speaker 2: him briefly, when he had the ACL injury, he missed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's everything you said is true.

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Speaker 3: to the to the Jets, like they did enough where

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Speaker 3: they could have won that game. And the thing is

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Speaker 3: about the Kansas City Chiefs. I would actually argue that

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Speaker 3: in the AFC, Baltimore's peak is probably higher than the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Wait which peak offense or defense is all around.

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Speaker 3: That they can do what they did to the Troit

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Speaker 3: Lions and the Seattle Seahawks is is a site to behold.

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Speaker 3: It's the most dominant things that we've seen this side

436
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Speaker 3: of San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: It's fair.

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Speaker 3: The problem with them though, is they have a higher

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Speaker 3: variance where they could also give you a valley game

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Speaker 3: and then play terribly the way they did against Pittsburgh

441
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Speaker 3: or the way they did against was against the Colts.

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Speaker 3: The Niners floor is much higher than the Ravens. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna get a much more consistent performance out of them

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Speaker 3: than you will from Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: So, feeling that good about the Eagles and Niners, would

446
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Speaker 2: you then bet NFC to win the Super Bowl? I

447
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: would have to look at the odds, but so you

448
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Speaker 2: think the NFC would be favored right now.

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Speaker 3: At this point? Yeah, even though I picked the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: for the season, but at this point, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Interesting not buying the Chiefs. I guess there's something to

452
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Speaker 2: like not winning in dominant fashion. I like the Monday

453
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Speaker 2: against the against the Eagles are gonna be a great game.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's interesting. I would agree with you on

455
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Speaker 2: the Niners. I don't think I think the Niners defense

456
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Speaker 2: is more scary. But again I'll repeat myself, what does

457
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Speaker 2: defense matter? Like the Eagles defense was amazing last year

458
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Speaker 2: and in the second half Mahomes was I think fourteen

459
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Speaker 2: to fifteen. When they get feel like defense just doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I mean as much in the regular season, Yeah, you

461
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Speaker 2: need to win games with defense, but like I don't know,

462
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Speaker 2: even in the playoffs, like Bengals going to Buffalo, run

463
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Speaker 2: it right down their throats. You know, Kansas City likes

464
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Speaker 2: to play with their food often see Jacksonville in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they barely squeaked by Jacksonville this year. Like ultimately,

466
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs probably are are not getting great looks from

467
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Speaker 2: you because you know, you loose to the Broncos and

468
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Speaker 2: what we knew was a great danger spot. They lose

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Speaker 2: to the Lions without without Chris Jones opening night, they

470
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Speaker 2: don't overwhelm the Jags like they beat the Jag seventeen nine.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine ers went in there and smashed them thirty

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Speaker 2: four to three. They barely beat the jet like. The

473
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Speaker 2: only convincing win was against the Bears. That was the

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Speaker 2: first Taylor Swift Travis Kelce game. And otherwise the Chiefs

475
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Speaker 2: have not looked like world beaters. But Rob, I'll end

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Speaker 2: with this before we get to Dave Mason. How much

477
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Speaker 2: of that is? Guys, We've been to three Super Bowls

478
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Speaker 2: and last four or five years, like, regular season doesn't

479
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Speaker 2: mean that much. Let's just get out of here. There's

480
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Speaker 2: no style points for winning fifty to ten, you know,

481
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Speaker 2: let's just do handle our business, reveal as little as

482
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Speaker 2: we can, and just you know, win and move on.

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Speaker 2: How much of that is like not regular season apathy,

484
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Speaker 2: but it's from I'm guessing it's a little tough for

485
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Speaker 2: them to get up for all these games knowing that

486
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Speaker 2: they're big favorites, that they're probably super Bowl bound, and

487
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Speaker 2: you know, it's all about the playoffs. It isn't really

488
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Speaker 2: the regular season. I e. The Golden State Warriors, you know,

489
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Speaker 2: the year after they won seventy three with KD Like, oh,

490
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Speaker 2: they won seventy three without KD, how are they gonna

491
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Speaker 2: win with KD like seventy six? Like, no, it doesn't

492
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Speaker 2: work like that. They knew they were the best. They

493
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Speaker 2: took plenty of nights off. I'm not saying the Chiefs

494
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Speaker 2: are bagging games, but I just I don't see that

495
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Speaker 2: urgency to dominate. Having been to the top of the

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Speaker 2: mountain that could be true.

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Speaker 3: The only problem with that argument is they supposedly got

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Speaker 3: up for the Dolphins game and A only scored fourteen points.

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Speaker 2: I think it was in Germany.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean just saying so far that they haven't

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Speaker 3: shown the capability, and Travis Kelsey has said that several

502
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Speaker 3: times in his podcast. You know that they got to

503
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Speaker 3: get things corrected and he's very disappointed in their performance.

504
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Speaker 3: And we'll find out very soon because their schedule is

505
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Speaker 3: really coming up, so we'll find out if they have

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Speaker 3: that extra gear they can get to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Tyson had like a lethal knockout punch when

508
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Speaker 2: he's throwing haymakers, like lookout, it's over. I don't know

509
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Speaker 2: that the Chiefs have that. They don't have Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: game breaking Kelsey's death by a thousand paper cuts like

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Speaker 2: Rashi Rice. Come on, even Pacheco slowed down the last

512
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Speaker 2: couple weeks. Trust me, I'm a fantasy odo right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, man. I mean I can't believe we're here.

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Speaker 4: What is it?

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Speaker 1: NFL Week eleven already. College football regular season's almost sober.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the football season just goes.

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Speaker 4: By so quick, man. But it's so fun, man. I

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Speaker 1: I love it's the busiest time of year, but it's

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Speaker 1: also the most fun for us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those weeks right before Thanksgiving where I

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Speaker 2: you know, and next week obviously Thanksgiving, you see family

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Speaker 2: let my guard down struggle a little. So we brought

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Speaker 2: you on to give us an analysis of what the

563
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Speaker 2: hell's going on with the books. First of all, it

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Speaker 2: seems like this season the public is kind of sort

565
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Speaker 2: of have its way. They're they're doing really well this season.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Macro on the gambling NFL this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it definitely started out that way. September was, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a grind for us, right. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say we lost, because that's not true,

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Speaker 1: but you know, the margins are down, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're always looking at those margins and all those KPIs

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Speaker 1: as the marketing people always like to stay you know,

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Speaker 1: and uh, your margin is probably the most important KPI

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Speaker 1: besides you know, your active of active betters. It all

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Speaker 1: goes up and down throughout the season. But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: the the margins were a little rough first month, but

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Speaker 1: we picked it up. You know, it's that's how the

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Speaker 1: football season goes up, down, up, down, up down. You know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, you're usually up that

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Speaker 1: you know, a certain amount of percentage point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're we're you know, we take sharp actions, so our

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Speaker 1: our our margin, our margin isn't going to be as

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Speaker 1: high as some of these other books that you know

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Speaker 1: don't want any sharp production. So you know, our our

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Speaker 1: margins at the end of the season. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: a high volume, low margin book. So we're looking at

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Speaker 1: you know, holding right around four percent, four to five

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Speaker 1: percent hopefully, and you know in September was around three percent.

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Speaker 4: So well, yeah, and we're badling back.

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Speaker 1: But it's you know, the volume's good that the as

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Speaker 1: long as you get the volume in there, and you

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Speaker 1: trade the big volume bets, then then you're gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's start with week eleven, so uh,

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Speaker 2: Sunday on Monday, there were five double digit favorites, and

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Speaker 2: the lines for three of them have moved significantly. Miami's

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00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: out to it looks like thirteen thirteen and a half.

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00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: The Bears have taken money now the Justin Fields is

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Speaker 2: in and in what it looks to be the biggest shocker,

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants are taking money with mister DeVito.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Danny Divdo's kid, but Tommy

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Speaker 2: DeVito at quarterback. Now, you talk talk me through these.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've had a week yet with five

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Speaker 2: double digit favorites. We're now down to three. I guess

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on those three and the double digit favorite situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know it's it's it is.

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Speaker 1: The spreads have been pretty tight all year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but you know we're getting to that part of

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Speaker 1: the season where the good teams are good the.

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Speaker 4: Bad teams are bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so you know that those games,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of from an action standpoint, the volume on

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Speaker 1: the straight bets is down on those big, those big spreads, which.

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Speaker 4: Is kind of unfortunate. Yeah, the closer the spread is

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Speaker 4: to a pick them, the better.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's the games that get the most action,

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Speaker 1: Like there's three point road chalk, you know, minus four

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Speaker 1: you know where it also gets one sided. You know

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Speaker 1: where where one team you know it looks looks perceived

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Speaker 1: to be a lot better, but they're only given four

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Speaker 1: on the road.

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Speaker 4: You know, those the.

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Speaker 1: Best, you know, because what you can start getting those

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Speaker 1: double digit spreads. You know a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: want to lay that many points, but you know the

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Speaker 1: other side factors, the other people don't want to bet

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Speaker 1: on the horrible team either. But where you do see

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Speaker 1: good action is the teasers and the and the money

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Speaker 1: line parlays. I mean, people are teasing all those games down.

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Speaker 1: You know, anything over a touchdown, people are just teasing down. Well,

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Speaker 1: six and a half is popular too, but you know

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Speaker 1: that's when you see those big teasers and this big

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Speaker 1: money line parlays. I mean, people parlay all those big

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Speaker 1: spreads up together. You know, instead of laying you know,

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Speaker 1: eight to fifty on the Dolphins minus eight fifty on

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, they'll they'll couple that with the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: a few others other teams to get them down right

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Speaker 1: around to pick them. But you got to win whatever

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Speaker 1: four or five games three, four or five games.

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Speaker 2: So so last week I don't love the double digit favorites,

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Speaker 2: but I did lay it with Dallas. It was a

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Speaker 2: it was a great windfall and with it otherwise a

643
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: crappy week. This week I did lay it with Miami.

644
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: That number just seems to be going to the moon.

645
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm curious what are you seeing? Are you seeing? Are

646
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: you seeing like sharp action on Miami at twelve or

647
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: anybody touching the raiders? What do you see?

648
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: If now we saw sharp action Miami minus ten, minus eleven,

649
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: minus twelve of minus thirteen too, where are we at

650
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: now We're at thirteen and a half. Yeah, so so

651
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: definitely sharp action on Miami. Let me see where the

652
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: public action is here overall overall, not a lot of

653
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: oh wait.

654
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: That's why is actually sorry? Clicking on a few different

655
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: tabs here to see the overall action. Yeah, overall actions

656
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: a little closer to even.

657
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: It's about fifty eight percent of cash is on Miami.

658
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: But but yeah, definitely the sharp side is Miami as

659
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: of now.

660
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and guess that the public is

661
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: just hand over fist on the Dallas Cowboys. They are

662
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: the one road favorite that's double digits. However, and I know, listen,

663
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: trends are whatever you can say with the whatever that

664
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: you want. But I have seen the number that and

665
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: I put this out there because we've used it this season.

666
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Home dogs of ten plus on an eighteen and six

667
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: ats tear haven't since twenty twenty two eighth to one,

668
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: including Dallas went to Arizona earlier this year double digit

669
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: favorite lost again. Carolina is borderline unplayable. But I mean,

670
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: do you have to kind of consider Dallas off the

671
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: billion point win over the Giants. For me, it's like

672
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: Carolina or nothing. But I don't know what do you

673
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: is anybody touching Carolina for you?

674
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: Uh?

675
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: The action overall action is the money's two to one

676
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, beck count even higher than that, it's

677
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: about what is it about?

678
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: About about about seventy on the Cowboys? Yeah, and again that'll.

679
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Be one of those where people are teasing it down.

680
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: You know who the heck's gonna bet on the even

681
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, those those trends are kind of music to

682
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: my ears.

683
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: You know there's something behind them.

684
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: It Again, you say what you want about friends, but

685
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: still that that tells you, Hey, you know, getting a

686
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: lot of points. This is the NFL getting a lot

687
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: of points at home, is you know? And it makes

688
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: sense that being said, it's the Cowboys, right right, a

689
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus the god awful Panthers team. So you know,

690
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: how the hell, how the heck do you bet the Panthers?

691
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: But come to your head, I guess you have to

692
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: take those points. But but now the public's on the Cowboys. Yeah,

693
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: it's it's again. That'll be one of those teaser games too.

694
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Most of the money will be on teasers of moneyline parlays.

695
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I like that again, you say that,

696
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: but Dave, last week, listen, everybody in their mom had

697
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: a Bengals in a moneyline parlay teaser lost. Everybody had

698
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: Baltimore money line parlay teaser lost. I had them in

699
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: two of them, lost both of them. I wonder if

700
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: people are going to be a little skittish going back

701
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: to the wells, and I mean people like the small

702
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: money better, not the big smart, smart rich guys. But

703
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I don't see this

704
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: as a huge teaser weekend because because the numbers are

705
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: so big, maybe like a Vikings, you can put the

706
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: vikings in a teaser because Denver can't get margin, and

707
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: then Buffalo down to win. But Buffalo another one. What

708
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: were they seven and a half couldn't or seven and

709
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: didn't win against Denver.

710
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: People bet it.

711
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at the teaser actually right down

712
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: this and it's let me see that's it's it's like

713
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the cash on teasers on the

714
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: two options there? What on the Cowboys? Yeah, and let

715
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: me let me see that the money line parlay here,

716
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: let me.

717
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: But you're not even teasing. Well, yeah, I guess you

718
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: could go through seven, but you're not getting through three.

719
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: No, you're not getting through three. It doesn't matter.

720
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: They just they they don't care.

721
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.

722
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean the book, the book, you know, the book.

723
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: As far as money line on money line parlays, that

724
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: is ninety seven Nah, yeah, about ninety six nine percent

725
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the cash on money line parlays is on Dallas. So yeah,

726
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: it kind of blew up a little bit last week,

727
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: but you know that's that's that's how players bet it,

728
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's the same thing

729
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: as saying, oh my god, all all unders and underdogs

730
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: covered last week?

731
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 4: Are people going to.

732
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Start betting underdogs and unders now betting what they do,

733
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and ben betting the chalk in the over.

734
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: You mentioned totals, I don't I for whatever reason, I

735
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: have not had a lot of success with them, so

736
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't dabble. But the Steelers Browns, I'm seeing what

737
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 2: thirty two thirty three?

738
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pathetic.

739
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's a preseason Yeah, it's like an

740
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Iowa football game.

741
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Right, unbelievable. But is any is anybody betting this?

742
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, you know, sure absolutely, Let me see more

743
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: bets on the under.

744
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, the action is pretty fifty to fifty there.

745
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so we don't like the action fifty You guys

746
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: love action fifty to fifty. Are there any of those

747
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: eighty twenty splits this week? I thought Dallas would get there.

748
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: I thought Miami would. But it doesn't sound like your

749
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: shot bet online.

750
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: Well, it's still early. I mean we're we're still talking. Shoot.

751
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, eighty to ninety percent of the money's coming in,

752
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: so we'll get I mean it's let's won't be that

753
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: high because again we take sharp actions, so you know,

754
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: it's we'll get that buy back, you know, if.

755
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: It's too high.

756
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: The biggest public's right now, let me see, Yeah, like Cowboys,

757
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: like I said, is about sixty seven percent forty nine

758
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: or sixty eight percent chief seventy three percent.

759
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: So those are our biggest lopsided.

760
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: But again, you know, well there's one giant low volume,

761
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: but the giants over Washington has as the most is

762
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: the most unbalanced, I guess, and that's that's right around. Yeah,

763
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: but again it's there's no one's ben in Washington, you

764
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's still low, it's very low volume.

765
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: So there's so many factors, right, you know, but by

766
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard to put too much you know,

767
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: thought into this.

768
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 4: But a our Vegas right.

769
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: Now, has it? Have you taken any big six figure bets?

770
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: You know that everybody loves to hear all one hundred

771
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on the Kyler Murray to pull the upset

772
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: in Houston? Any any huge bets this week that you guys, not.

773
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Not yet, they late, not yet, they could they come

774
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: in late. Nothing and nothing scares us.

775
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: But I'd like that attitude.

776
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: I mean, we we take you know, we we offer

777
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: big limits.

778
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna we have that re bet functionality

779
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: which no other book has.

780
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: I think one book in Vegas adopted it.

781
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Where you have high limits and you let them bet

782
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: that keep betting that limit over and over again after

783
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: every odds move for sixty one seconds, which ever comes first.

784
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: Like I said, I mean, we we take sharp action.

785
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: We take players with a pulse. A lot of books

786
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. That's perfectly fine, you know

787
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot of books like oh, people are like in Twitter,

788
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: O their horror, you know, but hey, that's their business model.

789
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: Whatever. Man, they want more.

790
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: Recreational players, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, But we're here

791
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: for the guys, guys with the pulse. You know.

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Speaker 2: Did you have any of those last week where it

808
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: was just like somebody kept the big hammering with big money?

809
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, there was, there was plenty. I'm sure I

810
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: kind of can't remember off the top of my head,

811
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: but out at.

812
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: The look at my Twitter because sometimes I tweet him.

813
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put them out on all right. Let me

814
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: ask this, Deshaun Watson out for the season your number.

815
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: It was not a radical move on your number. I

816
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: don't know if that's an indictment of Watson or DTR

817
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: or Steelers. I don't know. Talk to me about how

818
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: you guys handicapped that move.

819
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went from four and now it's one, so

820
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: I guess that's three points.

821
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: But you know you.

822
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Cross the three too, so that's that's more than just

823
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: one point in value, right, So I.

824
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: Mean his injury might have been cooked in baked into

825
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: the that four two.

826
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: So you know we have him at about four four

827
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: or five points, four and a half points. You know,

828
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: it's not like this is a DeShawn even though he

829
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: played good last weekend, it's not. Yeah, you know, this

830
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: isn't the Shawn Watson of pre legal issues here. Then

831
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: you're talking probably seven points, right. He hasn't been the

832
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: very mobile, you know. It's so, I mean, he's still

833
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: worth four to five points, you know, probably closer to five,

834
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: but you know it's not that that Shaun Watson of

835
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: a number of years ago.

836
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: Well, the quarterbacks are interesting because I'm sure some people

837
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: saw Tyson Pagent was in and it was ten and

838
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: a half and then Justin Fields is in it's nine

839
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: and a half or nine, and I'm like, geez Fields.

840
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, people, I guess just don't think that highly

841
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: of them. The books. What do you what do you

842
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: what is fields worth of Watson three three and a

843
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: half four? What's Field one and a half?

844
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 4: Two?

845
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're at we're at a line seven and

846
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: a half now.

847
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: So oh yeah yeah, yeah, so.

848
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: He's worth two to three points, you know, I mean,

849
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's been struggling to I mean his last

850
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: two outings are good.

851
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: Right, he had what was Washington had four touchdowns and

852
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: zero no, no, for sure, So he's he was.

853
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Turning around right before he got injured, right, Yeah, some

854
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: really good outings and they were able to put some

855
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: points on the board, and then he got injured and

856
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: fell fount in her face. But yeah, I mean that's

857
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: a that's a two and a half, two and a

858
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: half one from ten and now it's seven and a half.

859
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: So that's that's two and a half. It's probably what

860
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: he's worth two and a half to three and a

861
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of his backup. Course, you know, we always concentrate,

862
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: we over hear how much is a quarterback worth? How

863
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: much is a quarterback worth to a spread? I mean,

864
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: it's kind of what people don't talk about either, is

865
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: the flip, Well, what's that backup quarterback forth too? You

866
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: know that that that factors in the equation and and uh,

867
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, but three points justin field sounds about right

868
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: versus that backup. Now, if heinik Ors somebody you know,

869
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: a better backup, or Minshew or there's somebody like that,

870
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: a better backup was backing them up, then you know,

871
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: not that minshe's a backup anymore, but then then yeah,

872
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: not as much.

873
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: So it's it's there's two factors in there. How much

874
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 4: a quarterback is worth?

875
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Uh?

876
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: The divisional matchups are seven of them this week early

877
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: in the season. I just got destroyed on the divisional matchups.

878
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: It was painful. I think I'm gonna be on Chicago

879
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: in the content this week. I mean it was at

880
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: nine earlier. I haven't looked at the lines yet, but like,

881
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: I kind of like Chicago, and I'm I'm looking at

882
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: a lot of the dogs in the vision. It's like,

883
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: for me, it's giants are passed the one I can't

884
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: wrap my head around. Help me here. What are you

885
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: seeing on Jacksonville, Tennessee. It's a crap game. It's Will Levis.

886
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: I know nobody likes the division. Jacksonville off a brutal loss.

887
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: Tennessee looked like garbage against Tampa. But I'm seeing what

888
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: six and a half? Seven? It's just going hot above

889
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: seven to seven and a half or down to six

890
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: and a half.

891
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll six opened a six and a

892
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: half At six and a half now that the action

893
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: is horrible, it's at least picking on.

894
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 4: The board right now. I mean that there's no making

895
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: that one sound pretty man. I mean the action we

896
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: did take eighty.

897
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: Percent of the cast and seventy five percent of the

898
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: betters are on Jaguars, but that's kind of a small

899
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: sample size. This will be a big teaser game too.

900
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean there'll be so much that this will be

901
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: a no one will be betting this straight, but teaser

902
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: teaser action will be through the roof on the jag

903
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Is betting it down to a pick or misquen or

904
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: pick that's going to be the play there.

905
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: I got knocked out of one of my Survivor leagues

906
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: in week two on the freaking CJ strout on the road,

907
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: or maybe it was week three beating Jacksonville like thirty

908
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: seven to seventeen, and I have like PTSD had trouble

909
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: going back to Jacksonville. Man, I mean that lost hurt, dude.

910
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: That was a game where I think the Houston guy

911
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: had like a full a white fullback who ran back

912
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: a kickoff for a touchdown. I was like, what's happening yet?

913
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know about Jacksonville. Now, I will say

914
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: this the sneaky divisional matchup that I kind of like,

915
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: and I've laid it. Are the Rams at home against Seattle?

916
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's going to be Stafford. Is that official?

917
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

918
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: I believe so, yeah, I believe. So we open Seattle

919
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: mines two and a half down the one. Yeah, I

920
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: saw some sharp on Seattle plus one. They're getting points

921
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: at a point and then LA plus two and a

922
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: half actions pretty shoppy bets are on Seattle. Fifty six

923
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: percent of cash is on LA. So so yeah, I

924
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: get again, not too much action on that one yet.

925
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. The My logic would just be McVeigh

926
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: owns Carroll. Like in this divisional matchup, he covers the

927
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: spread every single time against the sixth straight. I mean

928
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: he just dominates THI yeah, and and like I mean

929
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: they rolled him in week one without Cooper Cup. Now

930
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: you bring Cooper Cup back. Like, I like Seattle a lot, man.

931
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: I just every week up and practically every week back,

932
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: and they can't stop anybody the secondary that's supposed to

933
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 2: be so hyped. I mean, Sam Howell looked like Joe

934
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Thaisman last week. I mean, I don't know if you

935
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: saw that, Like he went up and down the field

936
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: against him in the second.

937
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: Half well, he sold me. I'm betting the Rams after this,

938
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: after I get off this interview, please.

939
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: No, But but are you seeing You're not seeing anything

940
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: on Ram Seattle here. It's probably a low, low bed game, right, It's.

941
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: It's nothing great, but it's it's about the middle of

942
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: the road. The action is close to fifty to fifty.

943
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: A little bit more on on the Rams. Let me

944
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: see if there's anything sharp here. Actually, yeah, there is

945
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: some sharp there whereas it's Rams is the sharper side.

946
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: I believe there, it is there.

947
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: It is.

948
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: It's not me though, but it's someone all right. We

949
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: could wrap up with the big Monday night game, obviously

950
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: the rematch of the Super Bowl. I'm gonna go ahead

951
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: and assume if this were Sunday night football would be

952
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: one of the most bet games of the season. And

953
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: maybe that's still the case on Monday. But I'm assuming

954
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: not a ton of bets on this one yet, or

955
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: what are we seeing?

956
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: It's well, a ton of Kansas City bets. It is definitely, Yeah,

957
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: that's definitely the now it's gonna be. It's gonna be

958
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: a good one. It's gonna be a big one. Super

959
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Bowl rematch Kansas City's getting more bets. What did I

960
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: say earlier about Yeah, like seventy three percent early action

961
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: is on Kansas City. Nothing sharp yet. There hasn't been

962
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: much of a line move at all. So so now

963
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: this will be a monster and will definitely need the

964
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: Eagles on Monday Night without a doubt. I mean unless

965
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: it goes yeah, absolutely, I mean that two and a half.

966
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: If that goes, if that goes to three, then which

967
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: is headed that way? Because it's two and a half

968
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: minus one eighteen?

969
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: So can you guys tell me how you how you

970
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: determined two and a half without you don't have to

971
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: give away the secret sauce, But like, why wouldn't this

972
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: automatically be three?

973
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: You know, I'm confused about that too. You know.

974
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: In my own personal power rankings, I have Casey a

975
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: little bit of Philly. I mean, the Eagles are coming

976
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: off of by they were banged up, and hopefully they'll

977
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: be healthy going into the game. You know, But I mean,

978
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: I I'm confused myself why that isn't three. I really am.

979
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by it, and that that's hence the one

980
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: sided action, which is you know, uh that tells me

981
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: something too, though, because whenever I see these where it

982
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: confuses me.

983
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: But we're getting one.

984
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: Side of the action, but we're staying staying put, you know,

985
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: we're taking a side that I kind of tells you something.

986
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: A book's taken a side on something like that. So

987
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: which is final me because I'm from Philly and I'll

988
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: be room for the Eagles and there is.

989
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 4: A lot more fun winners.

990
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a lot more fun when uh, when

991
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: we need them to.

992
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: Let me do. So I read this. I don't know

993
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: this guy. I mentioned him a couple of times on

994
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: the pod. Jeff Fogel, I don't know if you know.

995
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: Vegas guy puts out like this newsletter thing on gambling,

996
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: and his theory is if the line is two and

997
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: a half, it means the sharps don't want the favorite.

998
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Otherwise we see three. And does this mean that the

999
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: sharp big money will come in maybe later closure to

1000
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: kickoff on the Eagles, because if it were already in,

1001
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: it would be on the Chiefs. We'd see three. Just

1002
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the two and a half

1003
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: because two and a half and three and a half

1004
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: are obviously right around the key number three.

1005
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: Right, Absolutely, No, I mean that's a good point, but uh,

1006
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, it's still you know, sometimes

1007
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: sharps just don't pile in the lake. I mean it's

1008
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, as limits go up, you know, limits

1009
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: go up through the week, and sometimes they're really going

1010
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: to make a play. They want the limits up everywhere

1011
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: where they can maximize their play. But but you know,

1012
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: if it stays two and a half, I don't see

1013
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: how the sharps don't take case. But again, maybe I'm

1014
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: just looking at the very square point of view. You know. Yeah,

1015
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: we took a little bit of sharp action on both sides,

1016
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, Casey minus two and a half and Philly

1017
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: plus two and a half.

1018
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 4: Nothing substantial, just a little bit, but there's nothing there

1019
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: at the moment.

1020
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: Because I contrasted with that Chargers packers. So where are

1021
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: you guys on that You're at a flat three?

1022
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 4: Right?

1023
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Or is it three juice.

1024
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: Or what chargers packers? Let me see that? Yeah, three

1025
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: three minus one sixteen?

1026
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're headed toward three and a half, right.

1027
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it will get to three and a half.

1028
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: But if it's going to go either way, it's going

1029
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 4: to go to three and a half.

1030
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't three All well, there you go,

1031
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Looking at the action, now was it three

1032
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: and a half? We got impact sharp sharp money plus three?

1033
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 4: Interesting? Yeah, there's yeah, there's they got hit.

1034
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 2: The Chargers are almost like a team I cannot bet

1035
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: on at this point. You don't know what this team's

1036
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: gonna deliver every week, Like are they gonna be awesome

1037
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: and crush someone or are they gonna get killed? They

1038
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: had less than two hundred yards against the Jets passing, Like,

1039
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what to make of this team.

1040
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: Now you got to go on the road in Green Bay.

1041
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: It's just it's a rough week.

1042
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1043
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1056
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1057
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1061
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