Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you and look over there
Speaker 1: is that the culture? Yes? Wow, loves culture.
Speaker 2: Hie love that away.
Speaker 1: Wow that was good.
Speaker 3: Hi everyone, Wow, Wow guys sound amazing?
Speaker 1: Did you guys sound amazing?
Speaker 3: I said, if we're gonna come to London, it has
Speaker 3: to be where we're most comfortable, in a church, a
Speaker 3: place of God. And what you just heard was the
Speaker 3: song something kind of Ooh, my girls aloud. We were
Speaker 3: toying with the idea of opening the show with us
Speaker 3: singing it live, but then we said, what do we say?
Speaker 3: We said, that's that song is not for God. It's
Speaker 3: not for God. What so many more words than you
Speaker 3: ever think it could possibly be, because really, in the
Speaker 3: song something kind of ooh, really all you need is
Speaker 3: something kind of and that's really.
Speaker 1: All you need. But there's so many words in it,
Speaker 1: there's so much narrative. How does that like? There?
Speaker 2: What's a moro? Come baby? I won't even know your name?
Speaker 2: List name is so good.
Speaker 3: This is for me listening to only that from my
Speaker 3: flight from l X to London, only for Boeing to say,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Think we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: It's not for Jesus. It's a lot it's a lot
Speaker 3: of words.
Speaker 1: Should we sit? What's it? Okay? Wow? We we had some.
Speaker 3: We had some tequila and red bullback stee and I've
Speaker 3: had three Guinnesses tonight.
Speaker 1: And you've got three Guinness.
Speaker 3: Well we should also say hi, I'm Matt Rogers and laws. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm friend of Matt Rogers Bowen Yang.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3: And we want to thank you so much for joining
Speaker 3: us on our tour, which today we decided is called
Speaker 3: the proper faggot Tour.
Speaker 1: And because we're in a church, we mean cigarettes.
Speaker 3: I do want you to know also, the second this
Speaker 3: show ends, you gotta run because this place is gonna
Speaker 3: burn down.
Speaker 1: Brimstone, will Raine.
Speaker 3: It is not saved from the clearest story architecture majors
Speaker 3: in here, anybody? No, Okay, Well, we're in a Gothic
Speaker 3: Revival church and that you see this a wide transept
Speaker 3: and a wide nave nave. Oh, you guys know, talk
Speaker 3: dirty to me, talk dirty to me. We don't have
Speaker 3: this in America. We don't have churches.
Speaker 1: You know. I went to a church once in America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was for a funeral. Oh, and I
Speaker 3: was sitting in the back with my mother because it
Speaker 3: was like we didn't know the person, but we knew
Speaker 3: the person. It was like you had to attend, but
Speaker 3: certainly you weren't going to take space in the front
Speaker 3: because that's for the people that are really heaving sob
Speaker 3: and grieving, and we didn't care that much. So we
Speaker 3: were sort of in the back. And it was to
Speaker 3: the point of the mass where they're like, okay, now
Speaker 3: everyone come up and receive communion.
Speaker 1: Where are my Catholics at?
Speaker 3: So at this point, I'm like twenty three, like two
Speaker 3: years into being like fully gay to my mother three
Speaker 3: two or three years, and I say to her, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I can go up there and receive communion.
Speaker 3: And she turned to me and said, yeah, if you
Speaker 3: go up there, this place is going to burn to
Speaker 3: the ground. And we laughed so hard, and one of
Speaker 3: the heaving, sobbing, grieving women turned around in the front
Speaker 3: and goes, wow. And we felt bad and sat right
Speaker 3: in our seat and did not receive communion on the day.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you didn't get you didn't get.
Speaker 3: The body, but no, and I was always addicted to
Speaker 3: the taste. Right, you didn't did you spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time in a Catholic.
Speaker 1: Jo was not Catholic, So you never received the body
Speaker 1: of Christ. I never orally did not receive. I might
Speaker 1: have gotten.
Speaker 4: I might have gotten like the cuticle, you know. I
Speaker 4: we got a thin wafer one day and it was
Speaker 4: like so delicate that I was like, Christ is skinny?
Speaker 3: Christ is Christ is actually acceptable in the zone?
Speaker 1: Diet the zone? What's the zone? Do do people know
Speaker 1: what the zone? Wait?
Speaker 3: The zone is truly like a nineties diet fat that
Speaker 3: Jennifer Aniston was like the face of and the whole
Speaker 3: thing was like no carbs, never a carb.
Speaker 1: Never. If you even think about a carb, you're not
Speaker 1: loving Joanniston. Then you're not going like her. No, you're
Speaker 1: not going to her.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I feel like Christ, would Jesus Christ have gone on
Speaker 3: New Zempic if he were alive today. I think Jesus
Speaker 3: Christ would have turned Ozembic into yes Manjaro. Well, here's
Speaker 3: the thing. They're always like, you know, Jesus is coming back.
Speaker 3: He's coming back. First of all, it's like TikTok, bitch.
Speaker 3: It can't get much worse than.
Speaker 1: It is right now. Jesus is gonna come back. It
Speaker 1: needs to be now.
Speaker 3: But also if Jesus did come back, first of all,
Speaker 3: he'd find out about TikTok. He'd be a huge influencer,
Speaker 3: especially with those aps. He'd be so annoying Jesus, he'd.
Speaker 1: Show off his scars, okay, and.
Speaker 3: We'd all be horny about it, but mad like Logan Paul.
Speaker 3: Jesus would be Logan Paul. Are we horny bit mad
Speaker 3: for Logan Paul? If you're a horny for Logan Paul,
Speaker 3: make noise. Second, Road just rolled her eyes so aggressively,
Speaker 3: just so you know, I can see you.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: In the words of Taylor Swift, I can see you,
Speaker 3: I can see you well.
Speaker 1: It's mid That's okay, that's okay. That was good. By
Speaker 1: the way. First of all, give it up for Olga
Speaker 1: Coke everybody. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: What she was talking about her friends eating ass. I
Speaker 4: was like, see, yeah, I would go on.
Speaker 1: It was embic.
Speaker 4: But I still want to eat ass, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 4: lose my appetite.
Speaker 3: Listen, current events are happening as we speak, and we think,
Speaker 3: we think the best thing about London is English tabloid culture.
Speaker 3: We think it's really healthy the way you guys do things.
Speaker 4: Everyone's making good, noble money off of this.
Speaker 3: So Bowen said he was gonna go pick up some
Speaker 3: tabloids and then we'd sort of flipped through and see
Speaker 3: just how much you, page by page are ruining these
Speaker 3: people's lives and degrading them beyond belief in a way.
Speaker 1: That is truly unfathomable.
Speaker 3: So Megan Markle is on the cover of this, right, yes,
Speaker 3: and all we've well, well, it sounds like we've got
Speaker 3: some royalists in the crowd.
Speaker 1: Was this mattering of applause? Yeah? Who here?
Speaker 3: What describe themselves as a royal list? Very anti Megan Markle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, no, wait, you're being shy now, who is it?
Speaker 1: Did you mean that we need to hear this? Lost?
Speaker 1: Coaches about different perspectives.
Speaker 3: Bowen is a centrist, leans more conservative. I'm very liberal.
Speaker 3: So it's about different views. That's why they call it
Speaker 3: the view Who hates Megan Markle and thinks she's calculated?
Speaker 1: Who said that? I see I see them? Who is it?
Speaker 1: Go get up here, come on, get up, get up,
Speaker 1: get up, get up, get up, get up, get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Suddenly, yeah, suddenly you want to hide.
Speaker 3: You're like these writers, well.
Speaker 1: Mean theirs Cheryl speaking of girls aloud?
Speaker 3: This is there's Cheryl's being reported on, Megan's being reported on.
Speaker 3: I told I kind of gave Matt the condensed, abridged
Speaker 3: version of the Holly and Phil of it all.
Speaker 1: I received none of it. Did you don't love that?
Speaker 4: He?
Speaker 1: So he had an affair with like a twink? Is
Speaker 1: that what happens?
Speaker 3: So I'm so okay. So there're two morning show co hosts.
Speaker 3: He is an affair with a twink that works with
Speaker 3: the show. She's upset because they have chemistry.
Speaker 1: Someone's shaking her hat? What is that wrong? That was wrong?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh is it gonna mood? We'll bring it up.
Speaker 1: What what? What is it?
Speaker 3: And then I want to talk to her friend asked
Speaker 3: the truth of the story, and we'll make humor out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: He potentially groomed. He gave him a bang.
Speaker 3: M literally figuratively hair wise. What about our friend back there?
Speaker 3: I saw something?
Speaker 1: Yes, you who?
Speaker 3: She pretended she didn't know. She's even worse than him. Oh,
Speaker 3: she should be in jail. She pretended she didn't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, she must be.
Speaker 3: Banished to askaband with her, to askaband with her with
Speaker 3: all making her incredibly English reference. Yeah, only only at
Speaker 3: a niche English reference. Askaman, you know what's international? What
Speaker 3: in sync is back?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who here? Thinks Justin Timberlake like he drinks a lot.
Speaker 4: They I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm gonna go on
Speaker 4: the record. Literally we're recording this for the podcast. Don't
Speaker 4: worry people at home home.
Speaker 3: Is in the States. We're sorry, I'm gonna go on
Speaker 3: the record. They all look bad, they all look really bad.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That's bringing the mood down. Is we talk
Speaker 3: about men? Aging is talking about these men? Uh that
Speaker 3: groomer needs to get over here and deal with them,
Speaker 3: give them some real I see I see one two
Speaker 3: thirty four five men in need of a good groomman,
Speaker 3: did you see?
Speaker 1: I was so excited they came back on the VMA.
Speaker 3: Say like we're back haha, and then it was like
Speaker 3: it's a song for trolls. Justin Timberlake has pivoted from
Speaker 3: international pop star to trolls, which makes me think there's
Speaker 3: I think trolls is like the new Scientology or something
Speaker 3: like they have these people like imprisoned.
Speaker 4: It's not good in a contract that makes them put
Speaker 4: out troll songs.
Speaker 3: Look at this, This says Harry, I want my old
Speaker 3: life back.
Speaker 1: Who thinks Harry wants his old life back? Yeah? No, No, that.
Speaker 3: Doesn't look fun at all. You're sitting in a big castle.
Speaker 3: Where are the outlets?
Speaker 1: Here's my thing? Yeah, go go.
Speaker 3: You see photos and videos of like the castle, even
Speaker 3: bal Moral, there's no outlets there.
Speaker 1: Like for what about like plugging your iPhone?
Speaker 3: You would have to search forty five minutes to even
Speaker 3: find somewhere to plug your iPhone fifteen pro Hey, does
Speaker 3: anyone hear work and set deck at the Crown because
Speaker 3: literally we need to see some outlets at Balmoral.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3: I want to read this article because I was reading
Speaker 3: it today in the morning while I was waiting, I
Speaker 3: was literally waiting for Matt to land here. It says,
Speaker 3: let's let's let's just try out our boone wants to
Speaker 3: read these articles in our British accents.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I want to do I want to do my best rp. Okay,
Speaker 3: my best received pronunciation.
Speaker 1: That's what is that.
Speaker 4: It's standard in English. It's like BBC English, you know.
Speaker 3: So the difference between him and me is he knows
Speaker 3: the differences and all my British accents.
Speaker 1: Are yeah, yeah yeah, do it do something now?
Speaker 3: Would you like to hear me read about Britney Spears
Speaker 3: and my bad adel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brittany, Sam's not
Speaker 3: getting on a.
Speaker 1: Face splay last month.
Speaker 3: Have to one year marriage and it hasn't taken long
Speaker 3: for things to get oklay between Britney Spears and a
Speaker 3: restrained husband Sam asgry.
Speaker 1: It's sort of getting up. He also allegedly.
Speaker 3: Waived and he claims to Britney's music rights and isn't
Speaker 3: listed on the deeds of their shared home in California.
Speaker 1: You're joking. That's my huge joke.
Speaker 4: You're joking. That's my favorite British ism. You joke, you're joking.
Speaker 4: And the second favorite one is it's a bit ship ship.
Speaker 4: It's really good.
Speaker 3: It's a bit ship in it, bit ship in it. Okay,
Speaker 3: mine's not gonna be to do it.
Speaker 1: This is this is very here we go.
Speaker 3: While Megan's focused on the future, he's stuck in regret
Speaker 3: over the past.
Speaker 1: You're copying me. I'm not. You're doing Robin Lee.
Speaker 4: I pretend I'm on the BBC World service. I'm pretending
Speaker 4: I'm doing BBC News.
Speaker 3: He's been looking gloom of late, failing to even raise
Speaker 3: a smile.
Speaker 1: That Beyonce's l a concert. That's all I got.
Speaker 3: Wait, can I say something? I hate you guys. There's
Speaker 3: a photo of this. There's something in here called Torso
Speaker 3: of the Week guys, and it's like, ye, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I mean these gays don't go to Dalston Superstore.
Speaker 1: They're they're.
Speaker 3: They're local jokes. Local is gonna get them every time.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: This is a segment that we like to call explain
Speaker 3: Cheryl call to us.
Speaker 1: She now goes by the mononym of Cheryl.
Speaker 3: Well that's something. I okay, who here things expert. They're
Speaker 3: the biggest expert in the room at Cheryl Cole. You yes, yes,
Speaker 3: come up, Come on up, come on up?
Speaker 1: No, No, you know enough here here? What's your name?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Everyone give it up for tola ta see. So one
Speaker 3: thing about America is we don't know about Cheryl Cole
Speaker 3: at all. And then here in the UK, Cheryl Cole
Speaker 3: is we're told one of the biggest stars here.
Speaker 1: Would you agree? Huge?
Speaker 5: It's been up and down, but I think, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1: Can you describe the topography of the ups and downs?
Speaker 1: So how did Cheryl Cole start out?
Speaker 5: I believe it was girls allowed, if anyone was right, huge,
Speaker 5: huge girl group here in the UK.
Speaker 1: Obviously we do know that, yes, yes, and so the
Speaker 1: girls allowed?
Speaker 3: Is that supposed to be like a riff on, like
Speaker 3: like no girls allowed? And then because it's a l
Speaker 3: O U D right, so it's more girls shouting.
Speaker 2: Indeed, because women before that women.
Speaker 3: Couldn't couldn't shout yeah, yeah, and now.
Speaker 1: They can now.
Speaker 3: Would you say that as a result of girls allowed,
Speaker 3: that women felt empowered to raise their voice?
Speaker 2: I would say so.
Speaker 6: I think the response seems to yeah, because you know,
Speaker 6: would you say, Tyler, there was a vacuum of women
Speaker 6: shouting the post Spice girl's landscape.
Speaker 5: I think before that the only woman to shout was
Speaker 5: Margaret Thatcher and.
Speaker 1: We love her, love Queen, May she rest? May she well?
Speaker 1: You know? Can you be honest?
Speaker 3: The only reason Matt Rodgers and I know about something
Speaker 3: kind of oo by Girls Aloud is because Hue the
Speaker 3: seminal duo on respector X Factor two Shoes. Did anyone
Speaker 3: else watch the season of X Factor with sher Lloyd
Speaker 3: and One Direction. Yeah, they were, they were their season
Speaker 3: Wow shoes.
Speaker 2: You're familiar with Sharon and One Direction?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? What's your Lloyd up to?
Speaker 3: What is.
Speaker 2: Congrats to show?
Speaker 1: Wow? What's amazing?
Speaker 2: I still follow her on Facebook?
Speaker 1: Oh great, lovely? Okay, so so no, wait, taller, you're
Speaker 1: on Facebook with share? Are you a mother yourself?
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm.
Speaker 2: To my best friend.
Speaker 1: Hot.
Speaker 3: I am like your your your heart's mother, but not
Speaker 3: literally not yes, yes, yes I am a child but
Speaker 3: oh like us.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So, just to get back to the trajectory of the
Speaker 3: entire career of Cheryl Cole, she starts out on Girls Allowed,
Speaker 3: and would you say she was sort of the breakout star,
Speaker 3: sort of the Justin of Girls Allowed.
Speaker 5: I think it was a little more even like I
Speaker 5: could barely name the other four.
Speaker 3: Right right, that's okay, no, stop stop that, stop stop
Speaker 3: that by now.
Speaker 2: Very young labor before my apparently no.
Speaker 1: No, no, there's some Nadine stands.
Speaker 3: Here and and I'm literally making up that that's one
Speaker 3: of their names, because only one of these people crossed
Speaker 3: over into the US lexicon, and that was Ryl.
Speaker 1: This is true. She has many last names she's had
Speaker 1: over time, so I think.
Speaker 5: She's back to Tweety because a big part of her
Speaker 5: story that she was married to famous English footballer As Cole,
Speaker 5: who played for my club, Chelsea.
Speaker 2: I say, with great shame, Hey, hey.
Speaker 3: Hey, the peanut gallery is restricted.
Speaker 1: So she's Cheryl Tweety in the beginning as a girl's
Speaker 1: allowed member.
Speaker 3: She meets this footballer that's probably huge for the tabloids,
Speaker 3: these motherfuckers. And then what happens she becomes Ryl Colin
Speaker 3: sort of passion bexes it.
Speaker 5: Up exactly, hanging out with the Coleen Rooneys of the world,
Speaker 5: Victoria Beckham's I think there was tension between her and Victoria.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, if.
Speaker 5: I recall I was about eight at the time, it's
Speaker 5: a brag, but it trickled down.
Speaker 3: It trickled down. So you support thatcher, So you support thatcher.
Speaker 3: Okay that's basically what you just said. Huge fan of Reagan, Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: all right, So Cheryl Cole for a while, it doesn't
Speaker 3: work out with the footballer, because when does it ever
Speaker 3: work out with the footballer?
Speaker 1: Am I right? So so then she becomes what.
Speaker 5: Then for a while she sort of disappeared. I'd say
Speaker 5: she did. She did obviously continue.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: Maybe she was around.
Speaker 1: When does she become the pop star Cheryl?
Speaker 2: She did that? She did fight for this love?
Speaker 5: Yeah, which, yeah, that was huge.
Speaker 2: I was in secondary school at the time.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's you gotta fa fa fve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a bop.
Speaker 2: I would say, it's fantastic. Yeah, seminal work.
Speaker 1: Seminal work.
Speaker 4: Now, when did Cheryl Hole the rue Paul's drag Race
Speaker 4: the UK Sees series one Queen step on the scene,
Speaker 4: Cheryl Hole and her whole? Her name is a play
Speaker 4: on Cheryl Cole, which is now an outdated moniker.
Speaker 1: When did Cheryl Hall enter the lexicon for you?
Speaker 2: I don't know in relation to Cheryl Cole.
Speaker 5: I don't know the story behind why she opted for that.
Speaker 1: Yes, would you agree that Cole rhymes with Hole? I worked? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you? You're right? Okay, Can I just ask just
Speaker 1: a couple more questions?
Speaker 3: When does Fernandez versini become a thing?
Speaker 1: I can't answer that, you said, because can I tell
Speaker 1: you something?
Speaker 3: You raised your hand and you said you were an
Speaker 3: authority on Cheryl Cole? Was the lull?
Speaker 1: That was?
Speaker 2: So I wasn't keeping up with it quite as crazy.
Speaker 3: Do you know about her becoming pregnant with Liam Payne's child, Bear?
Speaker 3: His name is Bear Pain. If I'm lucky, I'm getting
Speaker 3: some Bare Pain tonight.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do we believe that that child is happy in a
Speaker 3: private school somewhere?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I hope so too.
Speaker 3: What do you think the relationship is currently between Cheryl
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck she's going by.
Speaker 1: And Liam Pain?
Speaker 2: I assume that co parenting.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna ask you first, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 3: ask the crowd, because this is also going to become
Speaker 3: our opinion.
Speaker 1: It's your opinion of Cheryl Cole. Tweety Vernanda's Varsini.
Speaker 3: Tweety pain, tweety positive or negative?
Speaker 1: Okay? Great? And what about everybody else?
Speaker 3: Well, welcome, Cheryl gone.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, We're all the same page. Everyone. Give it
Speaker 1: up for Tallow.
Speaker 3: You did amazing, You did amazing, You did amazing. Now
Speaker 3: you sit there there, give it up for everybody, everybody,
Speaker 3: and give it up for Sheriff Cole wherever she is.
Speaker 3: Now here's something. Here's something you may notice. We left
Speaker 3: the chair empty over here, and that was sort of
Speaker 3: me telling you that we.
Speaker 1: Did get the signal. We did get the signal. We
Speaker 1: got the signal.
Speaker 3: I'm my my sort of field division is kind of limited.
Speaker 3: I'm not able to see that you do not let
Speaker 3: me tell you something about when you have a lot
Speaker 3: of talent, but you do not have eyes in.
Speaker 1: The back of your head.
Speaker 3: And and it was on me only to get the signal.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something what? I wouldn't change a
Speaker 3: thing about me? No, I would.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that. It's taken you a long.
Speaker 3: Time, yeah, to be able to say that true. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't change a thing about you. My sister, Hey, who
Speaker 3: is here with their best friend? That's so, if you're
Speaker 3: here with your best friend, I want you to stand up,
Speaker 3: and I want you to look at them. I want
Speaker 3: you to look them in the face and say, baby,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change a thing about you, And I want
Speaker 3: you to mean it. Maybe I wouldn't change I wouldn't
Speaker 3: change a thing about you. Can everyone just connect? Can
Speaker 3: everyone just connect for a second?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do it?
Speaker 3: Are you guys meaning it? I hope you mean it. Oh,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of love in the room.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change I would.
Speaker 3: Now, And everyone sit down, Everyone sit because there there
Speaker 3: there is that, there is there is royalty in the room.
Speaker 3: There is true royalty in the room. You know, your
Speaker 3: nation has kind of stolen.
Speaker 1: Her from us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's kind of transcended, like xpat because she
Speaker 3: kind of splits her time, yeah, between the States and
Speaker 3: the Kingdom. Well, she goes internationally wherever she needs to go.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know her taxes are hell oh god,
Speaker 3: I want to ask her about her taxes. Oh, she's
Speaker 3: getting like a fucking form from because I think that's
Speaker 3: what everyone wants to hear about, is how.
Speaker 1: The fuck does her account?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so like you have to file an Australian
Speaker 4: tax Like, you get an Australian paycheck, you get a
Speaker 4: British paycheck exactly, you get like it's too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on top of being a noted singer, actress, reality
Speaker 3: television personality, let's just face it, one of the greatest
Speaker 3: judges in reality television history. We are so honored that
Speaker 3: she made the time to come here. This was a
Speaker 3: huge ass. I say from the beginning, one of the
Speaker 3: dream guests of this podcast, and it goes way back
Speaker 3: and tonight's the night.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, everyone please welcome to the stage show.
Speaker 2: Wow, people like you is amazing.
Speaker 7: What a great crowd. You guys are an amazing crowd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shut up.
Speaker 2: I just got off the radio.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you bolted straight here.
Speaker 2: So I ran.
Speaker 7: I'm so exhausting. These and those Oh my god, they're
Speaker 7: not that high. These are kind of grandma that's.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, grandma ware is that I got jog?
Speaker 3: We were talking about today on the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2: It was great. I have the best show on the radio.
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just gonna say this. If you haven't listened,
Speaker 7: it's Friday night, seven to night. It's fabulous Fridays. And
Speaker 7: it's all the music that I get to pick.
Speaker 3: Is it given me a lot of nineties dance, like seventies, eighties,
Speaker 3: nineties dance.
Speaker 7: But in America on the radio, you don't get to
Speaker 7: pick your music. The boss tells you what you're playing,
Speaker 7: and you push the button and you talk in between.
Speaker 2: Here on Radio two, they get to let me pick
Speaker 2: my music.
Speaker 3: Freedom to make a change. Oh my god. So we're
Speaker 3: just talking out here, you being all over the world.
Speaker 3: What the hell are your Texas like? And how does
Speaker 3: your accountant do it?
Speaker 2: The accountant does do it?
Speaker 1: Goodbye?
Speaker 2: The account is my husband.
Speaker 7: Oh, he's really good with math or maths. He does
Speaker 7: the math and I just work and I keep working.
Speaker 7: So it is you do have to be responsible for
Speaker 7: this country and New Zealand and America.
Speaker 2: So basically I eat Ramen noodles, but I work a lot.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So we're on top of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know there's something and I hope to
Speaker 4: one day really work in a country where the queen's
Speaker 4: face is on the money. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: don't make any sense? Yeah, because I used to be
Speaker 4: a Commonwealth baby. I was going from Australia to Canada
Speaker 4: and then you know, the States, The States are the States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it our thing to.
Speaker 1: Default to like hating American when I come here? I do? Yeah.
Speaker 7: I remember I was talking about it recently somewhere on
Speaker 7: something and somebody got really offended because I said that
Speaker 7: it's the countryside is so spectacular here, it is breathtaking,
Speaker 7: and I said, I don't really feel like we have.
Speaker 2: That in America. Well, I got read the Riot Act,
Speaker 2: like have.
Speaker 7: You ever been out state New York? And I was like, yeah, bitch,
Speaker 7: that's the problem. Have you ever been to Surrey?
Speaker 3: I don't think so okay, so how long have you
Speaker 3: been here on this trip to the UK.
Speaker 1: And also I want to know, like if you had yours?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have Mary Jane's.
Speaker 1: I do Mary Jane. He's always got something on his feet.
Speaker 2: So cute.
Speaker 1: You know what the new thing is?
Speaker 4: I think what the new thing is in Coco Schnell,
Speaker 4: like take one thing off before you leave the house.
Speaker 1: It's put one thing on that's slightly wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm down, you know, yeah, slightly fucked up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like my pinky, what happened happened an unfortunate fisting accident.
Speaker 2: No, actually I was. You know here, we.
Speaker 7: Don't do this in the States. You can park anyway
Speaker 7: you want on the road. So if you're going this way,
Speaker 7: do do do do do, And there's a spot that
Speaker 7: way you can just go heaven, right, Except for the
Speaker 7: fact that my door was here and the car was
Speaker 7: coming this way. It was trying to be nice and
Speaker 7: open the door real quick and get out, and the
Speaker 7: entire sure.
Speaker 2: No, the entire friggin nail gone. It was a bloodbath.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean.
Speaker 2: So then I went on my Instagram and I'm like.
Speaker 7: I'm cutting oh my nail because I can't take it anymore. Also,
Speaker 7: every thirteen year old girl has like nails now, so
Speaker 7: I don't feel special anymore. So I thought, well, I
Speaker 7: want lesbian hands, you want hands, I'm gonna cut.
Speaker 3: But these are a feet of engineering though, I mean,
Speaker 3: can you show this is I'm study.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you? And I told Rue and Ruth said, well,
Speaker 2: it really is. End of days.
Speaker 3: That's not even a lost fingernail. That's like an insurance claim.
Speaker 3: I know. That's like, I know, I feel like instroduction
Speaker 3: days you had the naturally grown full nail. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: the induction days you had the naturally grown full nail.
Speaker 7: Those were my no, yes, wow, six inches. We've all
Speaker 7: been to six inches. Yeah, well I hope, yeah, we
Speaker 7: all have those stories. So I definitely grew them myself
Speaker 7: for all that time.
Speaker 2: And on the cover of the Soul System record, those were.
Speaker 4: My yeaessm, wait a minute, Matt, and I had a
Speaker 4: really gross question.
Speaker 1: I have a I have a sort of ghost question.
Speaker 3: So you're on the Bodyguard soundtrack that is the biggest
Speaker 3: soundtrack of all time. Correct, So let's the biggest film
Speaker 3: time track of all time.
Speaker 1: Soul System give it up for Soul system.
Speaker 7: Track nine Yes track track You Are Good, the only
Speaker 7: non Whitney song that made it into the movie.
Speaker 1: Wowow. So how often do the check come in?
Speaker 7: Okay, I am glad you asked ye because I am
Speaker 7: no longer in the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Oh, the checks came.
Speaker 7: This is full disclosure. My parents were losing their house
Speaker 7: and my first paycheck came.
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 7: It wasn't millions, So don't worry because I it was
Speaker 7: a remake of the Bill withersong. So guess who got
Speaker 7: most of the money estate Yeah, yeah, and then it
Speaker 7: was produced by C and C Music Factory, which we
Speaker 7: all know the history of that them. So I did well,
Speaker 7: but I didn't make millions. But the first check came in.
Speaker 7: So I bought my mom and dad house.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean that's true.
Speaker 7: They were losing their house, so I bought them a house,
Speaker 7: and then I bought them a car, and I brought
Speaker 7: my brother, my brother a car. Then after like two years,
Speaker 7: the lawyer says, oh, your checks are going to get
Speaker 7: smaller and smaller, and I was like, okay, that makes sense,
Speaker 7: because you know, you sell less records and I don't
Speaker 7: know how it works. I'm twenty three years old. I
Speaker 7: have no idea. So come to find out years later,
Speaker 7: that lawyer calls me, you know, twenty thirty years later
Speaker 7: and says, oh, they told me to stop paying you.
Speaker 7: What So I was only paid on seventeen million records
Speaker 7: when forty five were sold.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a third. That's a third of the record.
Speaker 2: So I tried to do math.
Speaker 1: I know, well done by it.
Speaker 7: There's a statute of limitations X amount of years go by.
Speaker 7: I'm fighting, fighting, and I can't do anything because I missed,
Speaker 7: because I missed the date.
Speaker 1: So and this is why we got right.
Speaker 2: This is it, This is it.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable though, So you're when you're told, like, as a
Speaker 3: member of Seduction, you're going to be on the Bodyguard soundtrack.
Speaker 2: That was Sol System, this is the next group.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, after production made zero money, I then signed
Speaker 7: with them again.
Speaker 3: So so you're told you're going to be on the
Speaker 3: Bodyguard soundtrack? Yes, And are you thinking that's going to
Speaker 3: be the biggest thing of all time because it's.
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston, Kevin Cosner or were you assuming that was
Speaker 1: going to be? Well?
Speaker 7: I assumed that I was going to be Madonna two
Speaker 7: point zero from the beginning and that didn't happen, so
Speaker 7: I thought this next time, it was a better deal.
Speaker 7: I got to write the rap that I did on
Speaker 7: the Bodyguard, so Clive Davis himself signed me. They brought
Speaker 7: me in for the meeting. Clive was like, you are
Speaker 7: a pop staw and I was like, you're right, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought this was.
Speaker 2: Gonna be my moment.
Speaker 7: And I did actually record most of an album that
Speaker 7: never got delivered so as a Lord as Soul Assistant
Speaker 7: featuring Michelle Vissage. Yeah, so it got never got delivered
Speaker 7: on time, so they axed us.
Speaker 2: They dropped us.
Speaker 7: But when Clive said I'm gonna put that song on
Speaker 7: the Bodyguard soundtrack, it was.
Speaker 2: Like, we don't know. I just hear Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: That's all I get.
Speaker 7: You don't know, really it's going to be in a movie.
Speaker 7: That's a big deal. But you know, lots of songs
Speaker 7: go in movies. Every movie has songs, but not every.
Speaker 2: Movie hits the way that did.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that was just an honor to be able
Speaker 7: to be on anything near Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so you ever get to meet her
Speaker 1: and mix with her at that time, I did.
Speaker 2: I got to interview her.
Speaker 7: I did morning radio for a very long time for
Speaker 7: seventeen years, and I got to thank Whitney in person
Speaker 7: for for basically buying my parents.
Speaker 2: But really changing my life in that way. And she
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, Jersey woo and I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, that's two Jersey girls. That's beautiful.
Speaker 4: The bad bad Wait a minute, Okay, so Michelle and
Speaker 4: I think, well, I suggested this because you use this
Speaker 4: in conversation.
Speaker 3: I think it's time for us to bring Oh I
Speaker 3: heard about this. It's time for us as a culture
Speaker 3: to bring. You know, you're not going to say we're
Speaker 3: going to bring bacha be.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, but this this is how what happened. We
Speaker 7: were texting yes, and you know, can't be traced Americans.
Speaker 7: Americans don't WhatsApp. You know this, right, Americans? I message
Speaker 7: and every English person, a British person is like, why
Speaker 7: what is that thing you're doing?
Speaker 2: That's an I message?
Speaker 7: So we were voice memoing back and forth and I said,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna come see you beach.
Speaker 2: And I was like, g I did us.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you just said and I'm so ready for the
Speaker 7: return of being ready.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Why did we get rid of it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean he told me about it. I didn't even
Speaker 3: have to question it. I was like, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 3: back in the lexicon. Why I did it go away?
Speaker 1: I mean, the title of this EPP is Beyonce.
Speaker 3: You that's title of that beat with Michelle visage from
Speaker 3: I Love.
Speaker 2: This episode is Islington beyon.
Speaker 3: I feel like we threw the baby out with the
Speaker 3: bathwater when we all decided, you know, bitch is a
Speaker 3: hard bad word. It's very you know, and I think
Speaker 3: we've come back around on bitch as being all purpose.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think BA can have that same sort of
Speaker 3: like Swiss army quality to it where.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, claiming my beach Beyonce.
Speaker 3: Is very like metrosexual, where it's like you're saying something
Speaker 3: but only ninety percent of the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then when they said bitch, it was like when
Speaker 3: metro sexuals were like, yeah, we're gay, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And now I want to bring back metro second Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going back.
Speaker 2: I'm in what's next? Zeek Cavalci, I was very American? Sorry, wait,
Speaker 2: what was it? Am I too old? No? No, No,
Speaker 2: I think I just misheard Zekavacci's. Do you remember them.
Speaker 7: They were a type of pant that were very tight here,
Speaker 7: and the straight boys, the guidos, the very It's how
Speaker 7: you knew York. Those kind of guys would wear them,
Speaker 7: and they were tight here, and then they'd kind of
Speaker 7: balloon out and then they go.
Speaker 2: Tight at the ankles, and you'd wear them with kipezios.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, so tight at the waist, balloon
Speaker 3: out and they come thank you, Yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 7: That was the hottest guy very International mail catalog. Hello,
Speaker 7: I'm going back to the late eighties.
Speaker 1: Yle it.
Speaker 2: You'll be very happy.
Speaker 1: He'll be back any second.
Speaker 2: The gayest men you've ever seen. And I had the
Speaker 2: hots for all of them.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Now did you in your adolescence did you?
Speaker 3: Were you sort of attracted to a fleet of gay men. Yes,
Speaker 3: and so your gaitar wasn't there, but you were. You
Speaker 3: knew I want to be a.
Speaker 1: Part of it.
Speaker 7: I liked effeminine men, I see, yeah. I liked a
Speaker 7: fancy boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 7: Who liked hair gel. I don't know a guyliner. It
Speaker 7: was like the new wave of romantic era. And I
Speaker 7: would have sex with them. You would and then they
Speaker 7: would go, Okay, I have something to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it was that not every time, but if you know,
Speaker 7: I helped them, I help them come out.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're welcome.
Speaker 3: And it would be sixss it would yeah please, yes,
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm here too. I was a slag and
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I don't really honestly.
Speaker 7: That's people ask me how I what's the the secret
Speaker 7: the key to I've been married for twenty six years
Speaker 7: to this, to the same man.
Speaker 2: I was a penis to.
Speaker 7: The same penis, and they said, what's the secret? I
Speaker 7: was like, well, I had many years of slaggotry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're done, you're retired.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm done. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you ever do you ever think about it? There
Speaker 3: You're like, ohy hun, let's open it up. Let's really
Speaker 3: become a part of gay culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, touche.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Listen, if he I am very open, I really am.
Speaker 7: So if he said to me, I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 7: Like if he's not being fulfilled, I'm married.
Speaker 2: So I stopped giving head obviously, right, Wow, that's what you.
Speaker 1: Do and he still does your taxes.
Speaker 2: I know, Oh my god, oh I know, wow, I
Speaker 2: have to do other things.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, but I you know, I said, He's like,
Speaker 7: it's very sad.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I know, I'll do.
Speaker 7: I'm just hired, like I work all ye, like I'm tired,
Speaker 7: and you know, I really feel like I was like,
Speaker 7: just go get a rubin tug, like.
Speaker 2: Do go doo.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's.
Speaker 2: Like, seriously, I'm like, gow, I don't just go.
Speaker 7: That's too shy, I know, but you know it doesn't
Speaker 7: but so would I open.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if this is not
Speaker 2: for fishing for compliments, do not clap. I don't need it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could still pull.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've been all I swear to you.
Speaker 7: I have been around gay people for one hundred and
Speaker 7: twenty five years. I don't know if the pussy still
Speaker 7: got power. I don't know, Shika, I don't know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not fisher.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know what the thing is though.
Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays straight men love to be around
Speaker 3: gay guys, whereas back in the day they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know gay guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nowadays, straight guys they gravitate towards gay guys because A
Speaker 3: the women, yeah, the women, and b they can actually
Speaker 3: because straight men, I think, do want to talk about
Speaker 3: their feelings. They do, but they just can't do it
Speaker 3: to each other. So when they find comfort in a
Speaker 3: gay man, so many straight men will spill their guts
Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, and I'll be like, wow, it's another
Speaker 3: element of the repression.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 3: So when you're surrounded by gays, these straight men in
Speaker 3: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty three are gonna
Speaker 3: come flocking.
Speaker 1: And then Michelle, you're gonna be pulling.
Speaker 2: I don't, you're gonna be pulling. I should try a
Speaker 2: straight bar every now. Do they exist?
Speaker 1: They're out there.
Speaker 3: We were just at one across the street.
Speaker 1: What is it called Compton Arms. Compton Compton Arms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's straight that felt and then we went to
Speaker 2: the pub's a go team.
Speaker 1: Go Team.
Speaker 3: I drank three guinnesses before I got here, like I
Speaker 3: was in football, dude, Yeah, I know, wow bro, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I have a coach dad and everything.
Speaker 7: I tell you.
Speaker 3: I was a code switching icon really yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah yeah not not now you can tell
Speaker 3: by my sort of pulled together Look, it's.
Speaker 8: Fabulous code switch, are you?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Years ago it was like one of the first conversations
Speaker 3: I ever had with Rue, and it was it was
Speaker 3: we were talking about monogamy and I was dating someone
Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, I'm wanting to bring
Speaker 3: up monogamy and my boyfriend's not into it, and we're
Speaker 3: having a conversation and Ruder's flat out.
Speaker 1: Goes, well, monogamy is unrealistic and doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: It's a tough thing to do. It's a tough it's
Speaker 2: a commitment, flat out Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love the way the world is going. I love that.
Speaker 7: It's like if it works for you and it works
Speaker 7: for your partner and protect yourself and be happy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see what's wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: So you got to know what works for you and
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we've been joking that, like this entire conversation,
Speaker 3: there's going to be like sniper red dots on us
Speaker 3: in this church, like ready.
Speaker 2: To get Surpris church still standing right?
Speaker 3: Are we? At any moment? It's gonna be burning down?
Speaker 3: So every time we have a guest on Lost Culture RASA.
Speaker 3: So this is a moment in time having you here,
Speaker 3: we have to ask the question. So the central question
Speaker 3: of last culture is thus, which is Michelle Visage? What
Speaker 3: was the culture that made you say? Culture was for you?
Speaker 3: So this is the defining like movie, piece of music,
Speaker 3: pop culture, television show that you can think back and say, wow,
Speaker 3: that is the thing that made me.
Speaker 1: Turn into who I am. But sex yeah, wow, now
Speaker 1: honestly for me.
Speaker 7: So there's a few elements of culture in my life
Speaker 7: that made me who I am today.
Speaker 1: Will want to hear them all.
Speaker 7: One of them was Broadway musicals, yes, or musical theater
Speaker 7: does it could be West End to number two, UK
Speaker 7: punk rock, the sex Pistols, the Damn the Buzzcocks.
Speaker 2: All of that was my shite. I wanted to marry
Speaker 2: Sid Vicious. I didn't know that he was problematic.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: He were a padlock in bled I thought that was cool.
Speaker 7: And then hip hop nineteen seventy nine, hearing Sugarhill Gang
Speaker 7: and then get full I am so cultured in old
Speaker 7: school hip hop. People don't know that about me. That
Speaker 7: is a passion and a love. And then going into
Speaker 7: dance music. Dance music changed my life. So when dance
Speaker 7: music came around, and of course I'm talking about Madonna
Speaker 7: going forward from there because Madonna was everybody. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: everybody knows how I feel about Madonna.
Speaker 2: And there's other ones too. Donna Summer was a game
Speaker 2: changer for me.
Speaker 7: There's many, many, many music because I was kind of
Speaker 7: a loner and a loser and a misfit and a rebel,
Speaker 7: and I didn't have many friends, so I spent a
Speaker 7: lot of time with the radio and it spent a
Speaker 7: lot of time with records, so well, music was very
Speaker 7: important for me. But when I moved to New York City,
Speaker 7: I went to university there.
Speaker 2: I went to Musical Theater College because I.
Speaker 7: Wanted to be on broad and in America you have
Speaker 7: to be twenty one to get into the bars. And
Speaker 7: I was seventeen when I graduated high school and moved
Speaker 7: to New York. And my mother sent me a fake
Speaker 7: ID because she's like she.
Speaker 2: Did because she knew.
Speaker 7: Believe it or not, this is going to blow a
Speaker 7: lot of people's minds. I don't drink and I never did.
Speaker 7: I don't party, I never did, never tried a drug.
Speaker 7: I know It's hard to believe because I'm a maniac,
Speaker 7: but I was always virgo, very focused in control.
Speaker 2: So for me, I needed to go out to be discovered.
Speaker 7: No cell phone, no computer, no Google, no map Quest,
Speaker 7: none of that stuff. So she sent me a fake
Speaker 7: ID and I went out to a club called the Underground,
Speaker 7: which was very big in those days, and I remember
Speaker 7: walking down.
Speaker 2: These dark steps.
Speaker 7: I grabbed a girlfriend from college as that come with me,
Speaker 7: and it was dark, and this beautiful, brown skinned boy
Speaker 7: comes up to me and he said, oh you your face,
Speaker 7: You're so beautiful, and I was like me, but nobody
Speaker 7: really ever said that. Apart from my mother. I never
Speaker 7: felt beautiful. I never felt wanted or you know what
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 2: I never fit in. It just wasn't for me.
Speaker 7: And he brought me down the steps and he opened
Speaker 7: this curtain to the darkest room with the thirty or
Speaker 7: forty of the freakiest looking misfits I've ever seen in
Speaker 7: my life, and I fucking knew I was home at
Speaker 7: that moment. It was a moment of these are my people.
Speaker 7: They were voguing and I was like, what are they doing?
Speaker 7: And you know, I, being this color, was welcomed into
Speaker 7: a Latin ex house of all Dominican and Puerto Rican
Speaker 7: people with dark skin and beautiful crazy hairdoos. And they
Speaker 7: just brought me into their family. And I became a
Speaker 7: member of the House of Magnafique. And then yes, and
Speaker 7: then I was brought into the Harlem ballroom culture. Never
Speaker 7: a question asked, Never you can't sit with us, Never
Speaker 7: too white, too black, too tall, none of that shit,
Speaker 7: No cancel culture.
Speaker 2: You are one of us, You are our daugha. You
Speaker 2: are going to learn.
Speaker 7: And I became, if the first one of the first
Speaker 7: biological females to walk in a vogue category in the
Speaker 7: balls and that's how it started for me. Wow, So
Speaker 7: that moment would probably be the moment. That moment when
Speaker 7: I became a magnifique and walked in the ballroom culture
Speaker 7: and did all of that up in Harlem, where I
Speaker 7: felt that I had a family, a chosen family, was
Speaker 7: probably the biggest.
Speaker 2: Event for me.
Speaker 1: Incredible.
Speaker 3: So I wonder like in the past, like really ten years,
Speaker 3: but really more five years, like what is it like
Speaker 3: to see ballroom culture really be celebrated in the mainstream
Speaker 3: and now with like Beyonce's Renaissance Store, It's like completely.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is monoculture.
Speaker 3: I wonder what it's like for you, as someone that
Speaker 3: was on the ground, being really a part of that authentically,
Speaker 3: what is it like to watch it explode like this?
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, It's deserved.
Speaker 7: These kids are so talented, these kids, the magnifiques that
Speaker 7: were in my house.
Speaker 2: You know, you watch Poe's.
Speaker 7: And you learn a little about it. So interesting, you know,
Speaker 7: none of us lived together. Like there were some truths,
Speaker 7: but a lot of them were you know, made grander
Speaker 7: for TV. But it was amazing to see this culture
Speaker 7: be told and it is more known now, but more
Speaker 7: to learn of where it came from and what it
Speaker 7: was about and what it meant to these kids where
Speaker 7: a lot of them were living on the streets, a
Speaker 7: lot of them were kicked out or being raised by
Speaker 7: their grandparents and had no money, had nothing, and their
Speaker 7: way of celebrating each other was coming together and having
Speaker 7: these balls.
Speaker 2: These were a.
Speaker 7: Really big deal because we would make things for each
Speaker 7: other or steal things for each other.
Speaker 2: That's just the way that it was, you know.
Speaker 7: And we would walk and we would compete, and there
Speaker 7: was so much pride in our in our trophies and
Speaker 7: our awards, So it was a really big deal. So
Speaker 7: have people like a freakin' superstar like Beyonce pay homage
Speaker 7: to it is like, yeah, yeah, of course it's incredible
Speaker 7: and incredible.
Speaker 4: It's incredible because and it kind of at this point
Speaker 4: now it has to be a little educational because like
Speaker 4: you do need Pose to sort of like give people
Speaker 4: like a digestible version of like what this time was.
Speaker 1: You need legendary to kind of.
Speaker 4: Have you teach like the standards and conventions of voguing
Speaker 4: and like and like drag Race definitely and like has
Speaker 4: broken the seal on that and helped that kind of
Speaker 4: all come in. And I think like we're about to
Speaker 4: move into like hopefully we move into a future where
Speaker 4: it's like it's it's pretty shorthand and everyone kind of
Speaker 4: has an understanding of like what this is.
Speaker 7: Well, let's hope and let's not forget because I did
Speaker 7: live through the AIDS crisis in New York City and
Speaker 7: seeing that happen, So having POS tell that story is
Speaker 7: just as important as having Pose explain what ballroom culture
Speaker 7: is so we don't forget. We can't forget what we've
Speaker 7: been through and what our brothers and sisters have fought for.
Speaker 7: So it's really important to have all that. I would
Speaker 7: love for it to be shorthand so people understand it.
Speaker 7: But there's so much more to learn because ignorance is
Speaker 7: coming on stronger than gay education. So we need to
Speaker 7: block that and educate through love not hate. Everything could
Speaker 7: be taught, and it's people needing to realize that who
Speaker 7: a person is, who they love, who they are, gender sexuality, fluidity, whatever.
Speaker 7: I have a non binary kid who I want to
Speaker 7: make this world a better place for, and in order
Speaker 7: to do it, we need to do that through love
Speaker 7: and education.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Did you get a chance to see the
Speaker 3: Renaissance store?
Speaker 7: I did not get a chance to see it, but
Speaker 7: I am living all of it through TikTok and the
Speaker 7: friends in ts Madison gave me the run down.
Speaker 1: I mean we actually came and saw it here in London.
Speaker 3: Was anyone at the London uh?
Speaker 4: And I praised Tattenham Hotspur and then people got mad.
Speaker 1: They were like, Dad, that's not a cloud. I'm all right,
Speaker 1: that is a whole thing. That's the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize.
Speaker 3: Just keep your mouth shut, right, But it's a it's
Speaker 3: a fabulous venue that I'm sorry to shoot on New
Speaker 3: Jersey East Rutherford.
Speaker 1: Could never is.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like the stadium, Mett Life Stadium, it
Speaker 3: is the it's a trap, Todd and we got to
Speaker 3: walk out. We went to a pub, we killed time,
Speaker 3: and then traffic was dead, and then we went home.
Speaker 7: Yeah, is no better in California?
Speaker 1: Is no better?
Speaker 3: Also, you can't you go into a concert at so
Speaker 3: Far you can't hear it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to.
Speaker 3: Explain, but it's a it's a heat conduction and you
Speaker 3: can't hear it.
Speaker 7: That doesn't worked very well for concerts nor annoying.
Speaker 3: I was really excited last year on Dragons when they
Speaker 3: did the Night of a Thousand Beyonces because I feel
Speaker 3: like that was like overdue. Is there a night of
Speaker 3: a thousand Blanks that you would like to see on
Speaker 3: drag Race that we haven't done?
Speaker 2: Madonna's done well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done well?
Speaker 2: Was that shady?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I like, you must have been so shook for a
Speaker 3: night of one thousand Madonna's when four kimonos came out, girl.
Speaker 2: And like, not, who the fuck is gonna choose that?
Speaker 7: Honestly, Canal Street, there is not one bridle, not one
Speaker 7: like a virsion, not one borderline.
Speaker 2: I had that hat made the minute that freaking song
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, we are owed a good Madonna runway.
Speaker 1: We'll do it again. Now there's a lot.
Speaker 7: There's a lot, ninety one thousand Eliza's thank you very much,
Speaker 7: oh terrific.
Speaker 1: All of them coked out singing something wearing.
Speaker 4: Now, before we move on to I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 4: I need to ask an essential question off of vibes alone,
Speaker 4: between Matt and I.
Speaker 1: Who is the Michelle and who is the Leah Remedy?
Speaker 1: Who is who is too? I know the answer to this,
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 2: I'm Leah one hundred percent, one hundred percent. You're made.
Speaker 4: I mean you okay, okay, and you know what? This
Speaker 4: is a Remedy impression. Are you ready.
Speaker 3: I'm the kind of person who tells you the kind
Speaker 3: of person I am. She always starts her sentences off
Speaker 3: with I'm the kind of person who who leaves the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm so proud of her, But I'm like,
Speaker 3: the thing is like I have always been such a
Speaker 3: Leah Reven fan, like ever since childhood, since since all
Speaker 3: of it. I mean the King of Queen's like just genius,
Speaker 3: and you have been her very best friend.
Speaker 2: For like how long twenty I think twenty years.
Speaker 1: So through the scientology Oh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody scattered like cockroaches and you study.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when she's in scientology, are you thinking like this
Speaker 3: is a little weird, but like at some point like
Speaker 3: she'll get out of it, or are you thinking like
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 7: So one of the first things I asked her when
Speaker 7: I met her was like, so tell me, because you know,
Speaker 7: I did entertainment reporting for all those years on the.
Speaker 2: Radio and you'd hear about but you don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. It's elusive. So I go, what is this
Speaker 2: scientology thing?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a church where well, and she's she would
Speaker 7: do what she was told, which was well, listen, if
Speaker 7: you wanted to know what a Catholic mass was, I'd say,
Speaker 7: go to church.
Speaker 2: Why don't you come with me to the Church of
Speaker 2: Scientology and check it out.
Speaker 7: That was my Lee impersonation. So I went, yeah, and
Speaker 7: this is my scientology story. Are there any scientologists in here?
Speaker 2: Whoo? Okay, thank you, Bun this was my story. You can.
Speaker 7: They start out and they get you in good with
Speaker 7: some really important courses that can help your your way
Speaker 7: of life.
Speaker 1: Always What did you do the one in New York? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the one in New York.
Speaker 3: I went to the one in New York when I
Speaker 3: was in When I was in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 3: I was eighteen years old. I had just gotten too
Speaker 3: n YU. Me and my friend Lizzie were walking in
Speaker 3: Times Square and I was like, let's go in and
Speaker 3: see what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So I gave you take your personality test.
Speaker 1: I gave him a fake name.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I went in.
Speaker 3: They put me in what I can only describe as
Speaker 3: the pre showroom to Tower of Terror. Okay, like where
Speaker 3: it's like this bunch of like bound books and they
Speaker 3: closed the doors. And then it's like, I was like,
Speaker 3: so you're watching a video and they're doing the thing.
Speaker 2: Did you go on the cans?
Speaker 1: I didn't go on the cans, but it was not
Speaker 1: far away.
Speaker 2: I could, Okay.
Speaker 3: So then they're like, hey, just sign all this paperwork
Speaker 3: and then we'll start emailing you and I'll never forget
Speaker 3: what happened. So as I'm filling out the paperwork with
Speaker 3: a fake name and a fake email. I say to
Speaker 3: the guy, so, why are you in scientology and why
Speaker 3: do you think it's good for you?
Speaker 1: And he says, you know, when I started scientology, I
Speaker 1: was in a relationship that really wasn't working for me,
Speaker 1: and I just noticed that every day I was really angry.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I got involved with scientology.
Speaker 1: And I'm not angry anymore.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, O, yay, yeah, you seem great.
Speaker 3: And so then we like flat so you didn't take
Speaker 3: any course, No, but essentially you understand why they get you,
Speaker 3: because in the beginning, at least, what I'm understanding is
Speaker 3: it's base that's a therapy.
Speaker 2: So in a way, but they're like courses.
Speaker 7: Like they'd say to me, well, yeah, you'd pay for
Speaker 7: courses in university or college, so why wouldn't you pay
Speaker 7: from here. So there's like data, and then there's like
Speaker 7: overcoming the ups and downs in life and how to
Speaker 7: be a better parent. And I had young kids, so
Speaker 7: I was like, I want to I want to be
Speaker 7: a good parent. I probably suck, you know, I didn't know.
Speaker 7: I didn't know what I was doing. I had kids,
Speaker 7: and I had no mother. So I was like, I'm
Speaker 7: going to fuck these kids up. I don't mean too,
Speaker 7: but I didn't know. They don't come with a manual.
Speaker 7: You don't know what you're doing. I did my best.
Speaker 7: Here we are, so so I go in to take
Speaker 7: these courses and then I did the fifty dollars ones
Speaker 7: and then one hundred dollars ones. Now, mind you, I
Speaker 7: was working on the radio, so I didn't have a
Speaker 7: lot of salary. So it came to like the eighteen
Speaker 7: hundred dollars one. I said, I don't have the money.
Speaker 7: I didn't have the money to do it. And they said, well,
Speaker 7: you can.
Speaker 2: Borrow a friend's credit card. And I was like, what
Speaker 2: kind of friends you think I got?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And they were like, you know, I don't know
Speaker 7: if this is relevant here, but there's an actress called
Speaker 7: Jenna Elfman.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we love Jenna Elfman, big scientologist. Never mind,
Speaker 3: don't we love Jenna.
Speaker 7: We left door, we left arvingreg So when they said
Speaker 7: they said, and I quote, when Jenna wanted to go clear,
Speaker 7: going clear as getting rid of all.
Speaker 1: The defeat the Michigan this shit.
Speaker 7: Then when Jenna wanted to go clear, she borrowed a
Speaker 7: friend's credit card, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Good for Jenna.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of a friend. So the
Speaker 2: guilt came right.
Speaker 7: They put me on the cans and my husband was
Speaker 7: like eye rolling and all that stuff, and I'm not
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you like it is. You guys can
Speaker 7: make up your own minds. I'm not an sp but
Speaker 7: well yes I am. So it came down to that
Speaker 7: and I was like, I can't afford it, and Leah's
Speaker 7: mother stepped in trying to make it affordable. The idea
Speaker 7: of paying for me to do it is not really
Speaker 7: on the cards because you have to do it for yourself.
Speaker 7: So I moved back to New York to do a
Speaker 7: radio a radio job, and I said, all right, I'll
Speaker 7: go back to the church and I'll take this course.
Speaker 2: I took this course. This is when I left.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I've taken about six courses at this point
Speaker 7: and it was time to make a commitment or get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, am I going to do it or not?
Speaker 7: I still was like some and doesn't feel right because
Speaker 7: when I say the cans, they give these things that
Speaker 7: look like two soup cans and it's.
Speaker 2: Called an e meter.
Speaker 7: It's supposed to measure your energy to see if you
Speaker 7: worked through what was in the course. I bullshitted my
Speaker 7: way through those e meters like you could totally. It's
Speaker 7: like a lie detector. Anyway, I get to the course
Speaker 7: and they start explaining something called the tone scale, and
Speaker 7: that tells you where people are rated in life. So
Speaker 7: murders and pedophiles are down at like one hundred, and
Speaker 7: like you know, a deity, a god is like at
Speaker 7: zero whatever. I started going through the scale and literally
Speaker 7: at like ninety something was pedophiles, Uh huh, murderers and homosexuals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I took.
Speaker 2: The book and I shut it.
Speaker 7: And when they do that, they come over and they say,
Speaker 7: because there's a teacher walking around the whole time making
Speaker 7: sure you understand.
Speaker 2: And he said what word didn't you understand?
Speaker 7: And I was like that homosexuals are pedophiles and murderers.
Speaker 2: And he said, what are you talking about.
Speaker 7: I said, gay people are on the same tone and
Speaker 7: I said I quit and I walked out. He's like,
Speaker 7: you can't quit as a girl by yeah. And I
Speaker 7: called Leah's mother and I said, I'm never going back.
Speaker 7: And they called me for months and I told lean Liah's.
Speaker 2: Like I get it.
Speaker 7: I get it, and I'm like, how can you do it?
Speaker 7: And it kind of slowly started to dwindle and then
Speaker 7: she started uncovering shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she had to do it her.
Speaker 7: Way, and it's been it's been rough man, but she's
Speaker 7: a fucking beast.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 3: I read her book and I watched the A and
Speaker 3: E series Put Yourself out There, and I know it's
Speaker 3: still hard.
Speaker 7: It is hard to this day because they see everything
Speaker 7: she's doing. But she's only speaking her truth and letting
Speaker 7: people speak their truth and letting She's trying to help
Speaker 7: and that's what, ironically, scientology is supposed to do.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: All I want to is for her to be in
Speaker 3: more things because second act she.
Speaker 1: Was okay and best Buds.
Speaker 3: Second Act was my favorite movie of the year because
Speaker 3: this happened.
Speaker 1: This was a choice that Leah Remedy made in second act.
Speaker 3: So j Loo's like, I'm stressed out because business and
Speaker 3: also you know, juggling my life as a mom, and
Speaker 3: Leah remone She's like, all right, listen, and before she answers,
Speaker 3: she unbuttons the top button of her pants and then
Speaker 3: she goes, here's what you gotta do, But before she
Speaker 3: could give the advice, she's like, let me unbutton.
Speaker 1: This top button. That's that's a choice.
Speaker 2: That's I said.
Speaker 1: That is a real comedic icon right there.
Speaker 3: Amazing, She's amazing, and we celebrate, Oh my gosh, give
Speaker 3: it up. But I always wonder about like clearly cool
Speaker 3: people who are in it, and then like, you know,
Speaker 3: all you want is for people to see the light,
Speaker 3: but it feels like it's tiny.
Speaker 1: It's a small amount of people. Now I live next
Speaker 1: to the Scientology Celebrity Center in LA and there ain't
Speaker 1: nobody in there.
Speaker 2: More than you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the best, and that dove tails perfectly. And
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, wouldn't you say, Bowen? This
Speaker 1: is I don't think so honey.
Speaker 4: This is our segment we do every episode of the podcast.
Speaker 4: We take one minute to rail against something in pop culture,
Speaker 4: the culture in general.
Speaker 2: What did you choose tonight, Bowen?
Speaker 1: Well you'll see, you'll see matdam Bowen.
Speaker 3: So Boone's gonna go first tonight because I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: actually do something sort of uh form breaking and exciting.
Speaker 1: So Bowen, such a rebel I'm the leah.
Speaker 2: Yes you are button your pants.
Speaker 1: I actually just did have to button the back. But
Speaker 1: we have moved, all right.
Speaker 3: So Bowen Yang, this is your I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 3: I do have a phone that I can time you.
Speaker 3: So Bowen Yang is gonna take his one minute right
Speaker 3: now to rant against something in pop culture that needs
Speaker 3: a railing against Bowen Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's it's yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. This is down, Yanks. I don't
Speaker 3: think so many as time starts now. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 3: Percy Pigs because because because wait, wait wait wait wait,
Speaker 3: Decoram let him get do it, Decora because Decoram Now.
Speaker 3: MNS Foods has a fucking choke hold on these things
Speaker 3: and it's holding them hostage. How dare you have exclusive
Speaker 3: sale over the best candy in the world, thank you?
Speaker 3: And I can't go to a food so anything and
Speaker 3: buy one along with my dental fluss.
Speaker 1: How dare you? I'm not going to M and S
Speaker 1: for anything else.
Speaker 3: I'm not buying one of your fucking sandwiches, bitch. I
Speaker 3: only have to donat you to buy this candy, and
Speaker 3: then I feel like a fuck I look like a
Speaker 3: groomer walking sentence with all the candy, looking like a groomermines,
Speaker 3: you're making me look crazy, like a damn pedo, as
Speaker 3: they say in the UK.
Speaker 1: Five seconds.
Speaker 4: I just need a one stop shop where I can
Speaker 4: order Percy pigs off of uber eats or deliver like
Speaker 4: any self respecting person in the UK would do.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute.
Speaker 3: And can I say, yes, I just tried them backstage
Speaker 3: from us.
Speaker 1: Yes, how dare you?
Speaker 3: That's made with real Jews, real Jews. And you can
Speaker 3: really tell, you can tell. I felt vitamin C flowing
Speaker 3: through me. I said, our candy is horseship.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 3: It's true, Bohen, I really feel like you struck a nerve.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, did you see the topography of that
Speaker 1: was because they thought that you were going to drag it.
Speaker 1: They hated it at first.
Speaker 3: They thought you were agreed that they thought you were
Speaker 3: dragging it based on quality. You were dragging it based
Speaker 3: on the availability availability it creates.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm so done with artificial scarcity.
Speaker 1: Fuck off. Yeah, it's out there.
Speaker 3: Put it out there, and we're taking all four bags
Speaker 3: of it and we're bringing it home and customs can
Speaker 3: eat our ass.
Speaker 7: Well, if they're filled with thirsty pigs, they might they.
Speaker 3: Might quite enjoy it, Sirs and Madams.
Speaker 1: All right, so here's here's what I'm doing. Okay, four break.
Speaker 3: So you know, Bowen and I used to do a
Speaker 3: live show based on this segment called I Don't Think
Speaker 3: So Honey Live, where we'd bring fifty comedians on stage.
Speaker 3: This is back in the day, back in Brooklyn. We
Speaker 3: bring fifty of our friends on stage and everyone would
Speaker 3: do a I don't Think so honey. And if someone
Speaker 3: didn't have an idea, they could reach into what.
Speaker 1: Was called the troll bowl.
Speaker 3: Yes, people, and they would have to do and I
Speaker 3: don't Think so honey on that topic. Now, usually that
Speaker 3: topic was a beloved thing that it would be hard
Speaker 3: to talk shit about.
Speaker 1: Julie Andrews, Julian Andrews one, yeah, Malala, Malala. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So basically what I want is I'm gonna do the
Speaker 3: trouble tonight. Who hasn't I don't Think so honey topic
Speaker 3: that they feel it would be hard for me to
Speaker 3: drag through? Absolute it's so easy.
Speaker 1: What did you say, Princess d got it?
Speaker 4: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think some money on
Speaker 4: Princess Die. His time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Princess Dye learned to drive.
Speaker 3: Your own fucking carn Tell where you're going. I don't
Speaker 3: think so, honey, Princess Die. Your sons are fucked up, babe.
Speaker 3: There had to be something that you could do.
Speaker 1: I don't think's, honey, Princess.
Speaker 3: Di Dody, Mama, we had everyone in the world and
Speaker 3: went with Doe.
Speaker 1: You getting in the backseat with Dony. You're going nowhere fast?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think so, honey, Princess Die. They
Speaker 1: have not figured you out on the crown, Mama, Miss
Speaker 1: thing playing you is too tall.
Speaker 3: What's Mama's name is Elizabeth de VICKI too tall? Fifteenth
Speaker 3: too tall? Princess died. The name is a little on
Speaker 3: the nose.
Speaker 1: I don't think, soney, Princess died. We're really How can
Speaker 1: you get even a little wet for Charles? You liar,
Speaker 1: you're some fake princess. That one minute? Oh great rough?
Speaker 1: Wh Michelle did not like that row. That's the name
Speaker 1: of the I don't think so, honey. Game okay gets
Speaker 1: a little rough.
Speaker 2: I'm on my way to becoming a national treasure.
Speaker 1: There I know, And yet you have to share the
Speaker 1: stage with me a heave.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. I want to say,
Speaker 2: do not reflect my opinion.
Speaker 1: We love Princess Die. I believe none of what I said.
Speaker 3: Donty loved her, Don't he loved Don't you point your
Speaker 3: finger at me? He loves her, Donty love love her?
Speaker 3: Loved I'm just saying, here's the deal. If I'm looking
Speaker 3: like Princess Die, I'm not checking up with Dody.
Speaker 1: But he was so rich, he was so rich.
Speaker 2: I went to Harod's.
Speaker 7: He would you get anything in harrod It's just fucking magical.
Speaker 2: It's one giant palace of ood.
Speaker 4: Dude like this this, Oh my god. I didn't go
Speaker 4: to Selfridges until recently.
Speaker 2: Love it sausages.
Speaker 1: We call it sausages.
Speaker 2: Sausages just because it sounds like sausages.
Speaker 1: Are these old doughty things.
Speaker 3: No, Harrod's was a Diana Well, herod was a yeah, Mohammed, Yes,
Speaker 3: the father, it is the father. And he was here
Speaker 3: Muhammad al Fayette, Yes, Tony Fayette being the Soviet correct
Speaker 3: and he shucks up with Princess Di and he loved her,
Speaker 3: and he loved her.
Speaker 1: Michelle, Now, no, no, okay, how do you want to proceed?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do one?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Because you I don't know. I didn't have one.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that grind, there's nothing that.
Speaker 3: Irritates you on a day to day basis. Well, well,
Speaker 3: well it doesn't have.
Speaker 4: To be pop cultural, obviously, it can be something going on.
Speaker 3: You know, the color green, the color green. I don't
Speaker 3: think so many of the color greens you've got. You've
Speaker 3: got one minute on the color Now they're starting to
Speaker 3: come for you about your hatred of the color green.
Speaker 3: They're like, Michelle, you can't actually positively hate color green
Speaker 3: this much?
Speaker 1: Why do you hate it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is your moment.
Speaker 3: This is Michelle, This is Michelle Vesage's I don't think
Speaker 3: the money on the color green.
Speaker 1: Tarley starts now.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, motherfucker, the color green.
Speaker 7: If I was a pink person, the color green wouldn't
Speaker 7: be so bad.
Speaker 2: But I am yellow.
Speaker 7: So if I if I had to wear a yellow
Speaker 7: based green, people would go, I'm so sorry about the
Speaker 7: hepatitis C.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. If I wore a yellow.
Speaker 7: Based green, I would absolutely look like well, I need
Speaker 7: some in you.
Speaker 2: Know, infusion.
Speaker 1: That's the one that I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: But I don't do that too.
Speaker 7: I don't think so, honey, because then we go to
Speaker 7: dark green. Dark greens look good on certain color skin.
Speaker 7: But every drag queen that comes up has to counterbalance
Speaker 7: with color correction. Right for the most part, we have oranges,
Speaker 7: we have yellows, and you know what color doesn't look
Speaker 7: good on that green very much. You don't want to
Speaker 7: look like you're dying. The key is to look like
Speaker 7: you're alive.
Speaker 2: Yes, In turn, stay the fuck away from pond scum green.
Speaker 2: There we go, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now we know, honestly, alexis Michelle found hopefully not
Speaker 1: green in the future.
Speaker 2: There are greens I like. Just to clear it up,
Speaker 2: I love jade, and I love Hunter.
Speaker 1: Green, Kelly Green Kelly.
Speaker 7: When you start to go green screen or you start
Speaker 7: to go baby shit, that's when I'm.
Speaker 1: Out baby shit.
Speaker 3: Okay, So everyone out there looking to put their RuPaul's
Speaker 3: Drag Race audition tapes together, Hunter Green, Kelly, green.
Speaker 7: Emerald green, amal green, jewel tones are beautiful on everybody.
Speaker 7: But I will say this, people of color, dark skinned
Speaker 7: people look beautiful in every green, so there's that jealousy
Speaker 7: right here.
Speaker 1: Or if you're a not green eyed person.
Speaker 2: I'm green eyed too. It doesn't work everyone.
Speaker 1: This has been so much fun.
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming our guest Massicious, But it's ma
Speaker 3: Roger the Moon.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know.
Speaker 1: What day cat that movie