1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you and look over there 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: is that the culture? Yes? Wow, loves culture. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Hie love that away. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Wow that was good. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: Hi everyone, Wow, Wow guys sound amazing? 6 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Did you guys sound amazing? 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: I said, if we're gonna come to London, it has 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: to be where we're most comfortable, in a church, a 9 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: place of God. And what you just heard was the 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: song something kind of Ooh, my girls aloud. We were 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: toying with the idea of opening the show with us 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: singing it live, but then we said, what do we say? 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: We said, that's that song is not for God. It's 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: not for God. What so many more words than you 15 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: ever think it could possibly be, because really, in the 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: song something kind of ooh, really all you need is 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: something kind of and that's really. 18 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: All you need. But there's so many words in it, 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: there's so much narrative. How does that like? There? 20 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: What's a moro? Come baby? I won't even know your name? 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: List name is so good. 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: This is for me listening to only that from my 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: flight from l X to London, only for Boeing to say, 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: I don't. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Think we're gonna do it. 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: It's not for Jesus. It's a lot it's a lot 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: of words. 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Should we sit? What's it? Okay? Wow? We we had some. 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: We had some tequila and red bullback stee and I've 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: had three Guinnesses tonight. 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: And you've got three Guinness. 32 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: Well we should also say hi, I'm Matt Rogers and laws. Yeah, 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: and I'm friend of Matt Rogers Bowen Yang. 34 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us. 35 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: And we want to thank you so much for joining 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: us on our tour, which today we decided is called 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: the proper faggot Tour. 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: And because we're in a church, we mean cigarettes. 39 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: I do want you to know also, the second this 40 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: show ends, you gotta run because this place is gonna 41 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: burn down. 42 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Brimstone, will Raine. 43 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: It is not saved from the clearest story architecture majors 44 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: in here, anybody? No, Okay, Well, we're in a Gothic 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: Revival church and that you see this a wide transept 46 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: and a wide nave nave. Oh, you guys know, talk 47 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: dirty to me, talk dirty to me. We don't have 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: this in America. We don't have churches. 49 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: You know. I went to a church once in America. 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was for a funeral. Oh, and I 51 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: was sitting in the back with my mother because it 52 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: was like we didn't know the person, but we knew 53 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: the person. It was like you had to attend, but 54 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: certainly you weren't going to take space in the front 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: because that's for the people that are really heaving sob 56 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: and grieving, and we didn't care that much. So we 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: were sort of in the back. And it was to 58 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: the point of the mass where they're like, okay, now 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: everyone come up and receive communion. 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Where are my Catholics at? 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: So at this point, I'm like twenty three, like two 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: years into being like fully gay to my mother three 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: two or three years, and I say to her, I'm like, 64 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't think I can go up there and receive communion. 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: And she turned to me and said, yeah, if you 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: go up there, this place is going to burn to 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: the ground. And we laughed so hard, and one of 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: the heaving, sobbing, grieving women turned around in the front 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: and goes, wow. And we felt bad and sat right 70 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: in our seat and did not receive communion on the day. 71 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: That's okay, you didn't get you didn't get. 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: The body, but no, and I was always addicted to 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: the taste. Right, you didn't did you spend a lot 74 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: of time in a Catholic. 75 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: Jo was not Catholic, So you never received the body 76 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: of Christ. I never orally did not receive. I might 77 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: have gotten. 78 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: I might have gotten like the cuticle, you know. I 79 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: we got a thin wafer one day and it was 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: like so delicate that I was like, Christ is skinny? 81 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: Christ is Christ is actually acceptable in the zone? 82 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: Diet the zone? What's the zone? Do do people know 83 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: what the zone? Wait? 84 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: The zone is truly like a nineties diet fat that 85 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: Jennifer Aniston was like the face of and the whole 86 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: thing was like no carbs, never a carb. 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: Never. If you even think about a carb, you're not 88 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: loving Joanniston. Then you're not going like her. No, you're 89 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: not going to her. 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: No. 91 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: I feel like Christ, would Jesus Christ have gone on 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: New Zempic if he were alive today. I think Jesus 93 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Christ would have turned Ozembic into yes Manjaro. Well, here's 94 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: the thing. They're always like, you know, Jesus is coming back. 95 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: He's coming back. First of all, it's like TikTok, bitch. 96 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: It can't get much worse than. 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: It is right now. Jesus is gonna come back. It 98 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: needs to be now. 99 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: But also if Jesus did come back, first of all, 100 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: he'd find out about TikTok. He'd be a huge influencer, 101 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: especially with those aps. He'd be so annoying Jesus, he'd. 102 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: Show off his scars, okay, and. 103 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: We'd all be horny about it, but mad like Logan Paul. 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: Jesus would be Logan Paul. Are we horny bit mad 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: for Logan Paul? If you're a horny for Logan Paul, 106 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: make noise. Second, Road just rolled her eyes so aggressively, 107 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: just so you know, I can see you. 108 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Well. 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: In the words of Taylor Swift, I can see you, 110 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: I can see you well. 111 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: It's mid That's okay, that's okay. That was good. By 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the way. First of all, give it up for Olga 113 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Coke everybody. Yeah, you know. 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: What she was talking about her friends eating ass. I 115 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: was like, see, yeah, I would go on. 116 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: It was embic. 117 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: But I still want to eat ass, you know what 118 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: I mean. I don't want to I don't want to 119 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: lose my appetite. 120 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Listen, current events are happening as we speak, and we think, 121 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: we think the best thing about London is English tabloid culture. 122 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: We think it's really healthy the way you guys do things. 123 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: Everyone's making good, noble money off of this. 124 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: So Bowen said he was gonna go pick up some 125 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: tabloids and then we'd sort of flipped through and see 126 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: just how much you, page by page are ruining these 127 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: people's lives and degrading them beyond belief in a way. 128 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: That is truly unfathomable. 129 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: So Megan Markle is on the cover of this, right, yes, 130 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: and all we've well, well, it sounds like we've got 131 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: some royalists in the crowd. 132 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Was this mattering of applause? Yeah? Who here? 133 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: What describe themselves as a royal list? Very anti Megan Markle? 134 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, no, wait, you're being shy now, who is it? 135 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Did you mean that we need to hear this? Lost? 136 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Coaches about different perspectives. 137 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: Bowen is a centrist, leans more conservative. I'm very liberal. 138 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: So it's about different views. That's why they call it 139 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: the view Who hates Megan Markle and thinks she's calculated? 140 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Who said that? I see I see them? Who is it? 141 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Go get up here, come on, get up, get up, 142 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: get up, get up, get up, get up, get up. 143 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Suddenly, yeah, suddenly you want to hide. 145 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: You're like these writers, well. 146 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Mean theirs Cheryl speaking of girls aloud? 147 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: This is there's Cheryl's being reported on, Megan's being reported on. 148 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: I told I kind of gave Matt the condensed, abridged 149 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: version of the Holly and Phil of it all. 150 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: I received none of it. Did you don't love that? 151 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: He? 152 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: So he had an affair with like a twink? Is 153 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: that what happens? 154 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: So I'm so okay. So there're two morning show co hosts. 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: He is an affair with a twink that works with 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: the show. She's upset because they have chemistry. 157 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Someone's shaking her hat? What is that wrong? That was wrong? 158 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: What happened? 159 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: Then? 160 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Yes? Oh is it gonna mood? We'll bring it up. 161 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: What what? What is it? 162 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: And then I want to talk to her friend asked 163 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: the truth of the story, and we'll make humor out 164 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: of it. 165 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: He potentially groomed. He gave him a bang. 166 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: M literally figuratively hair wise. What about our friend back there? 167 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: I saw something? 168 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Yes, you who? 169 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: She pretended she didn't know. She's even worse than him. Oh, 170 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: she should be in jail. She pretended she didn't know. 171 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: Oh, she must be. 172 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: Banished to askaband with her, to askaband with her with 173 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: all making her incredibly English reference. Yeah, only only at 174 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: a niche English reference. Askaman, you know what's international? What 175 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: in sync is back? 176 00:10:52,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who here? Thinks Justin Timberlake like he drinks a lot. 177 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: They I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm gonna go on 178 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: the record. Literally we're recording this for the podcast. Don't 179 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: worry people at home home. 180 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: Is in the States. We're sorry, I'm gonna go on 181 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: the record. They all look bad, they all look really bad. 182 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That's bringing the mood down. Is we talk 183 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: about men? Aging is talking about these men? Uh that 184 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: groomer needs to get over here and deal with them, 185 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: give them some real I see I see one two 186 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: thirty four five men in need of a good groomman, 187 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: did you see? 188 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: I was so excited they came back on the VMA. 189 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: Say like we're back haha, and then it was like 190 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: it's a song for trolls. Justin Timberlake has pivoted from 191 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: international pop star to trolls, which makes me think there's 192 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: I think trolls is like the new Scientology or something 193 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: like they have these people like imprisoned. 194 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: It's not good in a contract that makes them put 195 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: out troll songs. 196 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: Look at this, This says Harry, I want my old 197 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: life back. 198 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Who thinks Harry wants his old life back? Yeah? No, No, that. 199 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: Doesn't look fun at all. You're sitting in a big castle. 200 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: Where are the outlets? 201 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: Here's my thing? Yeah, go go. 202 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: You see photos and videos of like the castle, even 203 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: bal Moral, there's no outlets there. 204 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Like for what about like plugging your iPhone? 205 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: You would have to search forty five minutes to even 206 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: find somewhere to plug your iPhone fifteen pro Hey, does 207 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: anyone hear work and set deck at the Crown because 208 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: literally we need to see some outlets at Balmoral. 209 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on. 210 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: I want to read this article because I was reading 211 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: it today in the morning while I was waiting, I 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: was literally waiting for Matt to land here. It says, 213 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: let's let's let's just try out our boone wants to 214 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: read these articles in our British accents. 215 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: And then. 216 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: I want to do I want to do my best rp. Okay, 217 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 3: my best received pronunciation. 218 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: That's what is that. 219 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: It's standard in English. It's like BBC English, you know. 220 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: So the difference between him and me is he knows 221 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: the differences and all my British accents. 222 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Are yeah, yeah yeah, do it do something now? 223 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: Would you like to hear me read about Britney Spears 224 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: and my bad adel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brittany, Sam's not 225 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: getting on a. 226 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Face splay last month. 227 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: Have to one year marriage and it hasn't taken long 228 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: for things to get oklay between Britney Spears and a 229 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: restrained husband Sam asgry. 230 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of getting up. He also allegedly. 231 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: Waived and he claims to Britney's music rights and isn't 232 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: listed on the deeds of their shared home in California. 233 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: You're joking. That's my huge joke. 234 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: You're joking. That's my favorite British ism. You joke, you're joking. 235 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: And the second favorite one is it's a bit ship ship. 236 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: It's really good. 237 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: It's a bit ship in it, bit ship in it. Okay, 238 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: mine's not gonna be to do it. 239 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: This is this is very here we go. 240 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: While Megan's focused on the future, he's stuck in regret 241 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: over the past. 242 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: You're copying me. I'm not. You're doing Robin Lee. 243 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: I pretend I'm on the BBC World service. I'm pretending 244 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm doing BBC News. 245 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: He's been looking gloom of late, failing to even raise 246 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: a smile. 247 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: That Beyonce's l a concert. That's all I got. 248 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: Wait, can I say something? I hate you guys. There's 249 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: a photo of this. There's something in here called Torso 250 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: of the Week guys, and it's like, ye, okay, okay, 251 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: I mean these gays don't go to Dalston Superstore. 252 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: They're they're. 253 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: They're local jokes. Local is gonna get them every time. 254 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I know. 255 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: This is a segment that we like to call explain 256 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: Cheryl call to us. 257 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: She now goes by the mononym of Cheryl. 258 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: Well that's something. I okay, who here things expert. They're 259 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: the biggest expert in the room at Cheryl Cole. You yes, yes, 260 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: come up, Come on up, come on up? 261 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: No, No, you know enough here here? What's your name? 262 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: All right? 263 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: Everyone give it up for tola ta see. So one 264 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: thing about America is we don't know about Cheryl Cole 265 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: at all. And then here in the UK, Cheryl Cole 266 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: is we're told one of the biggest stars here. 267 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: Would you agree? Huge? 268 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: It's been up and down, but I think, yeah, we're. 269 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Can you describe the topography of the ups and downs? 270 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: So how did Cheryl Cole start out? 271 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: I believe it was girls allowed, if anyone was right, huge, 272 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 5: huge girl group here in the UK. 273 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Obviously we do know that, yes, yes, and so the 274 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: girls allowed? 275 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: Is that supposed to be like a riff on, like 276 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: like no girls allowed? And then because it's a l 277 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: O U D right, so it's more girls shouting. 278 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: Indeed, because women before that women. 279 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: Couldn't couldn't shout yeah, yeah, and now. 280 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: They can now. 281 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: Would you say that as a result of girls allowed, 282 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: that women felt empowered to raise their voice? 283 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: I would say so. 284 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 6: I think the response seems to yeah, because you know, 285 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 6: would you say, Tyler, there was a vacuum of women 286 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: shouting the post Spice girl's landscape. 287 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 5: I think before that the only woman to shout was 288 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 5: Margaret Thatcher and. 289 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: We love her, love Queen, May she rest? May she well? 290 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: You know? Can you be honest? 291 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: The only reason Matt Rodgers and I know about something 292 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: kind of oo by Girls Aloud is because Hue the 293 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 3: seminal duo on respector X Factor two Shoes. Did anyone 294 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: else watch the season of X Factor with sher Lloyd 295 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: and One Direction. Yeah, they were, they were their season 296 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: Wow shoes. 297 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: You're familiar with Sharon and One Direction? 298 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? What's your Lloyd up to? 299 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: What is. 300 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: Congrats to show? 301 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Wow? What's amazing? 302 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: I still follow her on Facebook? 303 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh great, lovely? Okay, so so no, wait, taller, you're 304 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: on Facebook with share? Are you a mother yourself? 305 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 3: No? No, I'm. 306 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: To my best friend. 307 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Hot. 308 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: I am like your your your heart's mother, but not 309 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: literally not yes, yes, yes I am a child but 310 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: oh like us. 311 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 312 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: So, just to get back to the trajectory of the 313 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: entire career of Cheryl Cole, she starts out on Girls Allowed, 314 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: and would you say she was sort of the breakout star, 315 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: sort of the Justin of Girls Allowed. 316 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 5: I think it was a little more even like I 317 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 5: could barely name the other four. 318 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: Right right, that's okay, no, stop stop that, stop stop 319 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: that by now. 320 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: Very young labor before my apparently no. 321 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: No, no, there's some Nadine stands. 322 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: Here and and I'm literally making up that that's one 323 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: of their names, because only one of these people crossed 324 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: over into the US lexicon, and that was Ryl. 325 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: This is true. She has many last names she's had 326 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: over time, so I think. 327 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: She's back to Tweety because a big part of her 328 00:19:54,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: story that she was married to famous English footballer As Cole, 329 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: who played for my club, Chelsea. 330 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: I say, with great shame, Hey, hey. 331 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: Hey, the peanut gallery is restricted. 332 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: So she's Cheryl Tweety in the beginning as a girl's 333 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: allowed member. 334 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: She meets this footballer that's probably huge for the tabloids, 335 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: these motherfuckers. And then what happens she becomes Ryl Colin 336 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: sort of passion bexes it. 337 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 5: Up exactly, hanging out with the Coleen Rooneys of the world, 338 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: Victoria Beckham's I think there was tension between her and Victoria. 339 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: Well yeah, if. 340 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 5: I recall I was about eight at the time, it's 341 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: a brag, but it trickled down. 342 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: It trickled down. So you support thatcher, So you support thatcher. 343 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: Okay that's basically what you just said. Huge fan of Reagan, Yes, yes, 344 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: all right, So Cheryl Cole for a while, it doesn't 345 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: work out with the footballer, because when does it ever 346 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: work out with the footballer? 347 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: Am I right? So so then she becomes what. 348 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: Then for a while she sort of disappeared. I'd say 349 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: she did. She did obviously continue. 350 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 351 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: Maybe she was around. 352 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: When does she become the pop star Cheryl? 353 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: She did that? She did fight for this love? 354 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, which, yeah, that was huge. 355 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: I was in secondary school at the time. 356 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay, that's you gotta fa fa fve. 357 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a bop. 358 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: I would say, it's fantastic. Yeah, seminal work. 359 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Seminal work. 360 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: Now, when did Cheryl Hole the rue Paul's drag Race 361 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: the UK Sees series one Queen step on the scene, 362 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: Cheryl Hole and her whole? Her name is a play 363 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: on Cheryl Cole, which is now an outdated moniker. 364 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: When did Cheryl Hall enter the lexicon for you? 365 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't know in relation to Cheryl Cole. 366 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 5: I don't know the story behind why she opted for that. 367 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Yes, would you agree that Cole rhymes with Hole? I worked? Yes, 368 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: thank you? You're right? Okay, Can I just ask just 369 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: a couple more questions? 370 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: When does Fernandez versini become a thing? 371 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I can't answer that, you said, because can I tell 372 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: you something? 373 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: You raised your hand and you said you were an 374 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: authority on Cheryl Cole? Was the lull? 375 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: That was? 376 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: So I wasn't keeping up with it quite as crazy. 377 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: Do you know about her becoming pregnant with Liam Payne's child, Bear? 378 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: His name is Bear Pain. If I'm lucky, I'm getting 379 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: some Bare Pain tonight. 380 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. 381 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: Do we believe that that child is happy in a 382 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: private school somewhere? 383 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? I hope so too. 384 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: What do you think the relationship is currently between Cheryl 385 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: whatever the fuck she's going by. 386 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: And Liam Pain? 387 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: I assume that co parenting. 388 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna ask you first, and then I'm gonna 389 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: ask the crowd, because this is also going to become 390 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: our opinion. 391 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: It's your opinion of Cheryl Cole. Tweety Vernanda's Varsini. 392 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: Tweety pain, tweety positive or negative? 393 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay? Great? And what about everybody else? 394 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: Well, welcome, Cheryl gone. 395 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: Just kidding, We're all the same page. Everyone. Give it 396 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: up for Tallow. 397 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: You did amazing, You did amazing, You did amazing. Now 398 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: you sit there there, give it up for everybody, everybody, 399 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: and give it up for Sheriff Cole wherever she is. 400 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: Now here's something. Here's something you may notice. We left 401 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: the chair empty over here, and that was sort of 402 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: me telling you that we. 403 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Did get the signal. We did get the signal. We 404 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: got the signal. 405 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm my my sort of field division is kind of limited. 406 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm not able to see that you do not let 407 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: me tell you something about when you have a lot 408 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: of talent, but you do not have eyes in. 409 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: The back of your head. 410 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: And and it was on me only to get the signal. 411 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: Can I tell you something what? I wouldn't change a 412 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: thing about me? No, I would. 413 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that. It's taken you a long. 414 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: Time, yeah, to be able to say that true. I 415 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't change a thing about you. My sister, Hey, who 416 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: is here with their best friend? That's so, if you're 417 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: here with your best friend, I want you to stand up, 418 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: and I want you to look at them. I want 419 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: you to look them in the face and say, baby, 420 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't change a thing about you, And I want 421 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: you to mean it. Maybe I wouldn't change I wouldn't 422 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: change a thing about you. Can everyone just connect? Can 423 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: everyone just connect for a second? 424 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do it? 425 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: Are you guys meaning it? I hope you mean it. Oh, 426 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of love in the room. 427 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change I would. 428 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: Now, And everyone sit down, Everyone sit because there there 429 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: there is that, there is there is royalty in the room. 430 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: There is true royalty in the room. You know, your 431 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: nation has kind of stolen. 432 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Her from us. 433 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's kind of transcended, like xpat because she 434 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: kind of splits her time, yeah, between the States and 435 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: the Kingdom. Well, she goes internationally wherever she needs to go. 436 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know her taxes are hell oh god, 437 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: I want to ask her about her taxes. Oh, she's 438 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: getting like a fucking form from because I think that's 439 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: what everyone wants to hear about, is how. 440 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: The fuck does her account? 441 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so like you have to file an Australian 442 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: tax Like, you get an Australian paycheck, you get a 443 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: British paycheck exactly, you get like it's too much. 444 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, on top of being a noted singer, actress, reality 445 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: television personality, let's just face it, one of the greatest 446 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: judges in reality television history. We are so honored that 447 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: she made the time to come here. This was a 448 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 3: huge ass. I say from the beginning, one of the 449 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: dream guests of this podcast, and it goes way back 450 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: and tonight's the night. 451 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, everyone please welcome to the stage show. 452 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: Wow, people like you is amazing. 453 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 7: What a great crowd. You guys are an amazing crowd. 454 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, shut up. 455 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: I just got off the radio. 456 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you bolted straight here. 457 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: So I ran. 458 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 7: I'm so exhausting. These and those Oh my god, they're 459 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 7: not that high. These are kind of grandma that's. 460 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, grandma ware is that I got jog? 461 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: We were talking about today on the radio. 462 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened? 463 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: It was great. I have the best show on the radio. 464 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just gonna say this. If you haven't listened, 465 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 7: it's Friday night, seven to night. It's fabulous Fridays. And 466 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 7: it's all the music that I get to pick. 467 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: Is it given me a lot of nineties dance, like seventies, eighties, 468 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: nineties dance. 469 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 7: But in America on the radio, you don't get to 470 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 7: pick your music. The boss tells you what you're playing, 471 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 7: and you push the button and you talk in between. 472 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: Here on Radio two, they get to let me pick 473 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: my music. 474 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: Freedom to make a change. Oh my god. So we're 475 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: just talking out here, you being all over the world. 476 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: What the hell are your Texas like? And how does 477 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: your accountant do it? 478 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: The accountant does do it? 479 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Goodbye? 480 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: The account is my husband. 481 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 7: Oh, he's really good with math or maths. He does 482 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 7: the math and I just work and I keep working. 483 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 7: So it is you do have to be responsible for 484 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 7: this country and New Zealand and America. 485 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: So basically I eat Ramen noodles, but I work a lot. 486 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: So there you go. So we're on top of it. 487 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know there's something and I hope to 488 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: one day really work in a country where the queen's 489 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: face is on the money. You know what I mean, 490 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: don't make any sense? Yeah, because I used to be 491 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: a Commonwealth baby. I was going from Australia to Canada 492 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: and then you know, the States, The States are the States. 493 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, is it our thing to. 494 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Default to like hating American when I come here? I do? Yeah. 495 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 7: I remember I was talking about it recently somewhere on 496 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 7: something and somebody got really offended because I said that 497 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 7: it's the countryside is so spectacular here, it is breathtaking, 498 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 7: and I said, I don't really feel like we have. 499 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: That in America. Well, I got read the Riot Act, 500 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: like have. 501 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 7: You ever been out state New York? And I was like, yeah, bitch, 502 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 7: that's the problem. Have you ever been to Surrey? 503 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so okay, so how long have you 504 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: been here on this trip to the UK. 505 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: And also I want to know, like if you had yours? 506 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have Mary Jane's. 507 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I do Mary Jane. He's always got something on his feet. 508 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: So cute. 509 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: You know what the new thing is? 510 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 4: I think what the new thing is in Coco Schnell, 511 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: like take one thing off before you leave the house. 512 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: It's put one thing on that's slightly wrong. 513 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm down, you know, yeah, slightly fucked up. 514 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, like my pinky, what happened happened an unfortunate fisting accident. 515 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: No, actually I was. You know here, we. 516 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: Don't do this in the States. You can park anyway 517 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 7: you want on the road. So if you're going this way, 518 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 7: do do do do do, And there's a spot that 519 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 7: way you can just go heaven, right, Except for the 520 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 7: fact that my door was here and the car was 521 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 7: coming this way. It was trying to be nice and 522 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 7: open the door real quick and get out, and the 523 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 7: entire sure. 524 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: No, the entire friggin nail gone. It was a bloodbath. 525 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Oh I mean. 526 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: So then I went on my Instagram and I'm like. 527 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 7: I'm cutting oh my nail because I can't take it anymore. Also, 528 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 7: every thirteen year old girl has like nails now, so 529 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 7: I don't feel special anymore. So I thought, well, I 530 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 7: want lesbian hands, you want hands, I'm gonna cut. 531 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: But these are a feet of engineering though, I mean, 532 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: can you show this is I'm study. 533 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you? And I told Rue and Ruth said, well, 534 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: it really is. End of days. 535 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: That's not even a lost fingernail. That's like an insurance claim. 536 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: I know. That's like, I know, I feel like instroduction 537 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: days you had the naturally grown full nail. I'm sorry, 538 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: the induction days you had the naturally grown full nail. 539 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 7: Those were my no, yes, wow, six inches. We've all 540 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: been to six inches. Yeah, well I hope, yeah, we 541 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: all have those stories. So I definitely grew them myself 542 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 7: for all that time. 543 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: And on the cover of the Soul System record, those were. 544 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: My yeaessm, wait a minute, Matt, and I had a 545 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: really gross question. 546 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: I have a I have a sort of ghost question. 547 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: So you're on the Bodyguard soundtrack that is the biggest 548 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: soundtrack of all time. Correct, So let's the biggest film 549 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: time track of all time. 550 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: Soul System give it up for Soul system. 551 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 7: Track nine Yes track track You Are Good, the only 552 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 7: non Whitney song that made it into the movie. 553 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Wowow. So how often do the check come in? 554 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 7: Okay, I am glad you asked ye because I am 555 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 7: no longer in the lawsuit. 556 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh, the checks came. 557 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 7: This is full disclosure. My parents were losing their house 558 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 7: and my first paycheck came. 559 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. 560 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: It wasn't millions, So don't worry because I it was 561 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 7: a remake of the Bill withersong. So guess who got 562 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 7: most of the money estate Yeah, yeah, and then it 563 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 7: was produced by C and C Music Factory, which we 564 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 7: all know the history of that them. So I did well, 565 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 7: but I didn't make millions. But the first check came in. 566 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 7: So I bought my mom and dad house. 567 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean that's true. 568 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 7: They were losing their house, so I bought them a house, 569 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 7: and then I bought them a car, and I brought 570 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 7: my brother, my brother a car. Then after like two years, 571 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 7: the lawyer says, oh, your checks are going to get 572 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 7: smaller and smaller, and I was like, okay, that makes sense, 573 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 7: because you know, you sell less records and I don't 574 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 7: know how it works. I'm twenty three years old. I 575 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 7: have no idea. So come to find out years later, 576 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 7: that lawyer calls me, you know, twenty thirty years later 577 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 7: and says, oh, they told me to stop paying you. 578 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 7: What So I was only paid on seventeen million records 579 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 7: when forty five were sold. 580 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a third. That's a third of the record. 581 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: So I tried to do math. 582 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, well done by it. 583 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 7: There's a statute of limitations X amount of years go by. 584 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 7: I'm fighting, fighting, and I can't do anything because I missed, 585 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 7: because I missed the date. 586 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: So and this is why we got right. 587 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: This is it, This is it. 588 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 3: Unbelievable though, So you're when you're told, like, as a 589 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: member of Seduction, you're going to be on the Bodyguard soundtrack. 590 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: That was Sol System, this is the next group. 591 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, after production made zero money, I then signed 592 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 7: with them again. 593 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 3: So so you're told you're going to be on the 594 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: Bodyguard soundtrack? Yes, And are you thinking that's going to 595 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 3: be the biggest thing of all time because it's. 596 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: Whitney Houston, Kevin Cosner or were you assuming that was 597 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: going to be? Well? 598 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 7: I assumed that I was going to be Madonna two 599 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 7: point zero from the beginning and that didn't happen, so 600 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 7: I thought this next time, it was a better deal. 601 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 7: I got to write the rap that I did on 602 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 7: the Bodyguard, so Clive Davis himself signed me. They brought 603 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 7: me in for the meeting. Clive was like, you are 604 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 7: a pop staw and I was like, you're right, sir. 605 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought this was. 606 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: Gonna be my moment. 607 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 7: And I did actually record most of an album that 608 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 7: never got delivered so as a Lord as Soul Assistant 609 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 7: featuring Michelle Vissage. Yeah, so it got never got delivered 610 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 7: on time, so they axed us. 611 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: They dropped us. 612 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 7: But when Clive said I'm gonna put that song on 613 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 7: the Bodyguard soundtrack, it was. 614 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Like, we don't know. I just hear Whitney Houston. 615 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: That's all I get. 616 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 7: You don't know, really it's going to be in a movie. 617 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 7: That's a big deal. But you know, lots of songs 618 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 7: go in movies. Every movie has songs, but not every. 619 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: Movie hits the way that did. 620 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, so that was just an honor to be able 621 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 7: to be on anything near Whitney Houston. 622 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so you ever get to meet her 623 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: and mix with her at that time, I did. 624 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: I got to interview her. 625 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 7: I did morning radio for a very long time for 626 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 7: seventeen years, and I got to thank Whitney in person 627 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 7: for for basically buying my parents. 628 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: But really changing my life in that way. And she 629 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, Jersey woo and I was like. 630 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, that's two Jersey girls. That's beautiful. 631 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: The bad bad Wait a minute, Okay, so Michelle and 632 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 4: I think, well, I suggested this because you use this 633 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: in conversation. 634 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: I think it's time for us to bring Oh I 635 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: heard about this. It's time for us as a culture 636 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: to bring. You know, you're not going to say we're 637 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 3: going to bring bacha be. 638 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, but this this is how what happened. We 639 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 7: were texting yes, and you know, can't be traced Americans. 640 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 7: Americans don't WhatsApp. You know this, right, Americans? I message 641 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 7: and every English person, a British person is like, why 642 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 7: what is that thing you're doing? 643 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: That's an I message? 644 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 7: So we were voice memoing back and forth and I said, 645 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 7: I'm gonna come see you beach. 646 00:36:53,040 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, g I did us. 647 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, you just said and I'm so ready for the 648 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 7: return of being ready. 649 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready. Why did we get rid of it? 650 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 651 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean he told me about it. I didn't even 652 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 3: have to question it. I was like, yeah, for sure, 653 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: back in the lexicon. Why I did it go away? 654 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the title of this EPP is Beyonce. 655 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: You that's title of that beat with Michelle visage from 656 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: I Love. 657 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: This episode is Islington beyon. 658 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: I feel like we threw the baby out with the 659 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: bathwater when we all decided, you know, bitch is a 660 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: hard bad word. It's very you know, and I think 661 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 3: we've come back around on bitch as being all purpose. 662 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 663 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 3: And I think BA can have that same sort of 664 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: like Swiss army quality to it where. 665 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, claiming my beach Beyonce. 666 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: Is very like metrosexual, where it's like you're saying something 667 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: but only ninety percent of the way. 668 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 669 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: And then when they said bitch, it was like when 670 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 3: metro sexuals were like, yeah, we're gay, you. 671 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: Know what I mean? 672 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: And now I want to bring back metro second Yeah, okay, okay, 673 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm going back. 674 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm in what's next? Zeek Cavalci, I was very American? Sorry, wait, 675 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: what was it? Am I too old? No? No, No, 676 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: I think I just misheard Zekavacci's. Do you remember them. 677 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 7: They were a type of pant that were very tight here, 678 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 7: and the straight boys, the guidos, the very It's how 679 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 7: you knew York. Those kind of guys would wear them, 680 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 7: and they were tight here, and then they'd kind of 681 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 7: balloon out and then they go. 682 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: Tight at the ankles, and you'd wear them with kipezios. 683 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, so tight at the waist, balloon 684 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: out and they come thank you, Yeah, I gotcha. 685 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 7: That was the hottest guy very International mail catalog. Hello, 686 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 7: I'm going back to the late eighties. 687 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: Yle it. 688 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: You'll be very happy. 689 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: He'll be back any second. 690 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: The gayest men you've ever seen. And I had the 691 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: hots for all of them. 692 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: Well yeah, Now did you in your adolescence did you? 693 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: Were you sort of attracted to a fleet of gay men. Yes, 694 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 3: and so your gaitar wasn't there, but you were. You 695 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: knew I want to be a. 696 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: Part of it. 697 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 7: I liked effeminine men, I see, yeah. I liked a 698 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 7: fancy boy. 699 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 700 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 7: Who liked hair gel. I don't know a guyliner. It 701 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 7: was like the new wave of romantic era. And I 702 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 7: would have sex with them. You would and then they 703 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 7: would go, Okay, I have something to tell you. 704 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 705 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 7: So it was that not every time, but if you know, 706 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 7: I helped them, I help them come out. 707 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're welcome. 708 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 3: And it would be sixss it would yeah please, yes, 709 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm here to do. 710 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: That's what I'm here too. I was a slag and 711 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I don't really honestly. 712 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 7: That's people ask me how I what's the the secret 713 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 7: the key to I've been married for twenty six years 714 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 7: to this, to the same man. 715 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 2: I was a penis to. 716 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 7: The same penis, and they said, what's the secret? I 717 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 7: was like, well, I had many years of slaggotry. 718 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're done, you're retired. 719 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm done. Yeah yeah yeah. 720 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: Do you ever do you ever think about it? There 721 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: You're like, ohy hun, let's open it up. Let's really 722 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: become a part of gay culture. 723 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, touche. 724 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. 725 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 7: Listen, if he I am very open, I really am. 726 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 7: So if he said to me, I don't, I don't know, 727 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 7: Like if he's not being fulfilled, I'm married. 728 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: So I stopped giving head obviously, right, Wow, that's what you. 729 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: Do and he still does your taxes. 730 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: I know, Oh my god, oh I know, wow, I 731 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: have to do other things. 732 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, but I you know, I said, He's like, 733 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 7: it's very sad. 734 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I know, I'll do. 735 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 7: I'm just hired, like I work all ye, like I'm tired, 736 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 7: and you know, I really feel like I was like, 737 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 7: just go get a rubin tug, like. 738 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: Do go doo. 739 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's. 740 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: Like, seriously, I'm like, gow, I don't just go. 741 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 7: That's too shy, I know, but you know it doesn't 742 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 7: but so would I open. 743 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if this is not 744 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: for fishing for compliments, do not clap. I don't need it. 745 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I could still pull. 746 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 747 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: I've been all I swear to you. 748 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 7: I have been around gay people for one hundred and 749 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 7: twenty five years. I don't know if the pussy still 750 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 7: got power. I don't know, Shika, I don't know, you. 751 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. 752 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm not fisher. 753 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 754 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: You know what the thing is though. 755 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays straight men love to be around 756 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 3: gay guys, whereas back in the day they were like, oh, 757 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't know gay guys. 758 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 759 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: Nowadays, straight guys they gravitate towards gay guys because A 760 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: the women, yeah, the women, and b they can actually 761 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: because straight men, I think, do want to talk about 762 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: their feelings. They do, but they just can't do it 763 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: to each other. So when they find comfort in a 764 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: gay man, so many straight men will spill their guts 765 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, and I'll be like, wow, it's another 766 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 3: element of the repression. 767 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right. 768 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: So when you're surrounded by gays, these straight men in 769 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 3: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty three are gonna 770 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 3: come flocking. 771 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: And then Michelle, you're gonna be pulling. 772 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't, you're gonna be pulling. I should try a 773 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 2: straight bar every now. Do they exist? 774 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: They're out there. 775 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 3: We were just at one across the street. 776 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: What is it called Compton Arms. Compton Compton Arms. 777 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's straight that felt and then we went to 778 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: the pub's a go team. 779 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Go Team. 780 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 3: I drank three guinnesses before I got here, like I 781 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 3: was in football, dude, Yeah, I know, wow bro, oh yeah, 782 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: I have a coach dad and everything. 783 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 7: I tell you. 784 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: I was a code switching icon really yes, oh yeah, 785 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah yeah not not now you can tell 786 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 3: by my sort of pulled together Look, it's. 787 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 8: Fabulous code switch, are you? 788 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: You know? 789 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: Years ago it was like one of the first conversations 790 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: I ever had with Rue, and it was it was 791 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 3: we were talking about monogamy and I was dating someone 792 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, I'm wanting to bring 793 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 3: up monogamy and my boyfriend's not into it, and we're 794 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: having a conversation and Ruder's flat out. 795 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Goes, well, monogamy is unrealistic and doesn't exist. 796 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: It's a tough thing to do. It's a tough it's 797 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 2: a commitment, flat out Yes. 798 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 799 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: I love the way the world is going. I love that. 800 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 7: It's like if it works for you and it works 801 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 7: for your partner and protect yourself and be happy. 802 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see what's wrong with that. 803 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. 804 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: So you got to know what works for you and 805 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: figure it out. 806 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we've been joking that, like this entire conversation, 807 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: there's going to be like sniper red dots on us 808 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 3: in this church, like ready. 809 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 2: To get Surpris church still standing right? 810 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 3: Are we? At any moment? It's gonna be burning down? 811 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 3: So every time we have a guest on Lost Culture RASA. 812 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: So this is a moment in time having you here, 813 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 3: we have to ask the question. So the central question 814 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 3: of last culture is thus, which is Michelle Visage? What 815 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: was the culture that made you say? Culture was for you? 816 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 3: So this is the defining like movie, piece of music, 817 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 3: pop culture, television show that you can think back and say, wow, 818 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 3: that is the thing that made me. 819 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: Turn into who I am. But sex yeah, wow, now 820 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: honestly for me. 821 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 7: So there's a few elements of culture in my life 822 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 7: that made me who I am today. 823 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: Will want to hear them all. 824 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 7: One of them was Broadway musicals, yes, or musical theater 825 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 7: does it could be West End to number two, UK 826 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 7: punk rock, the sex Pistols, the Damn the Buzzcocks. 827 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 2: All of that was my shite. I wanted to marry 828 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 2: Sid Vicious. I didn't know that he was problematic. 829 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. 830 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: He were a padlock in bled I thought that was cool. 831 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 7: And then hip hop nineteen seventy nine, hearing Sugarhill Gang 832 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 7: and then get full I am so cultured in old 833 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 7: school hip hop. People don't know that about me. That 834 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 7: is a passion and a love. And then going into 835 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 7: dance music. Dance music changed my life. So when dance 836 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 7: music came around, and of course I'm talking about Madonna 837 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 7: going forward from there because Madonna was everybody. Yeah, I mean, 838 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 7: everybody knows how I feel about Madonna. 839 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: And there's other ones too. Donna Summer was a game 840 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: changer for me. 841 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 7: There's many, many, many music because I was kind of 842 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 7: a loner and a loser and a misfit and a rebel, 843 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 7: and I didn't have many friends, so I spent a 844 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 7: lot of time with the radio and it spent a 845 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 7: lot of time with records, so well, music was very 846 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 7: important for me. But when I moved to New York City, 847 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 7: I went to university there. 848 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: I went to Musical Theater College because I. 849 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 7: Wanted to be on broad and in America you have 850 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 7: to be twenty one to get into the bars. And 851 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 7: I was seventeen when I graduated high school and moved 852 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 7: to New York. And my mother sent me a fake 853 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 7: ID because she's like she. 854 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: Did because she knew. 855 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 7: Believe it or not, this is going to blow a 856 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 7: lot of people's minds. I don't drink and I never did. 857 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 7: I don't party, I never did, never tried a drug. 858 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 7: I know It's hard to believe because I'm a maniac, 859 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 7: but I was always virgo, very focused in control. 860 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: So for me, I needed to go out to be discovered. 861 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 7: No cell phone, no computer, no Google, no map Quest, 862 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 7: none of that stuff. So she sent me a fake 863 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 7: ID and I went out to a club called the Underground, 864 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 7: which was very big in those days, and I remember 865 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 7: walking down. 866 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: These dark steps. 867 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 7: I grabbed a girlfriend from college as that come with me, 868 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 7: and it was dark, and this beautiful, brown skinned boy 869 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 7: comes up to me and he said, oh you your face, 870 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 7: You're so beautiful, and I was like me, but nobody 871 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 7: really ever said that. Apart from my mother. I never 872 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 7: felt beautiful. I never felt wanted or you know what 873 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 7: I mean. 874 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: I never fit in. It just wasn't for me. 875 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 7: And he brought me down the steps and he opened 876 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 7: this curtain to the darkest room with the thirty or 877 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 7: forty of the freakiest looking misfits I've ever seen in 878 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 7: my life, and I fucking knew I was home at 879 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 7: that moment. It was a moment of these are my people. 880 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 7: They were voguing and I was like, what are they doing? 881 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 7: And you know, I, being this color, was welcomed into 882 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 7: a Latin ex house of all Dominican and Puerto Rican 883 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 7: people with dark skin and beautiful crazy hairdoos. And they 884 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 7: just brought me into their family. And I became a 885 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 7: member of the House of Magnafique. And then yes, and 886 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 7: then I was brought into the Harlem ballroom culture. Never 887 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 7: a question asked, Never you can't sit with us, Never 888 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 7: too white, too black, too tall, none of that shit, 889 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 7: No cancel culture. 890 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: You are one of us, You are our daugha. You 891 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: are going to learn. 892 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 7: And I became, if the first one of the first 893 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 7: biological females to walk in a vogue category in the 894 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 7: balls and that's how it started for me. Wow, So 895 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 7: that moment would probably be the moment. That moment when 896 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 7: I became a magnifique and walked in the ballroom culture 897 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 7: and did all of that up in Harlem, where I 898 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 7: felt that I had a family, a chosen family, was 899 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 7: probably the biggest. 900 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: Event for me. 901 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Incredible. 902 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: So I wonder like in the past, like really ten years, 903 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: but really more five years, like what is it like 904 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 3: to see ballroom culture really be celebrated in the mainstream 905 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 3: and now with like Beyonce's Renaissance Store, It's like completely. 906 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it is monoculture. 907 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: I wonder what it's like for you, as someone that 908 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 3: was on the ground, being really a part of that authentically, 909 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 3: what is it like to watch it explode like this? 910 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, It's deserved. 911 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 7: These kids are so talented, these kids, the magnifiques that 912 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 7: were in my house. 913 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: You know, you watch Poe's. 914 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 7: And you learn a little about it. So interesting, you know, 915 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 7: none of us lived together. Like there were some truths, 916 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 7: but a lot of them were you know, made grander 917 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 7: for TV. But it was amazing to see this culture 918 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 7: be told and it is more known now, but more 919 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 7: to learn of where it came from and what it 920 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 7: was about and what it meant to these kids where 921 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 7: a lot of them were living on the streets, a 922 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 7: lot of them were kicked out or being raised by 923 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 7: their grandparents and had no money, had nothing, and their 924 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 7: way of celebrating each other was coming together and having 925 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 7: these balls. 926 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 2: These were a. 927 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 7: Really big deal because we would make things for each 928 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 7: other or steal things for each other. 929 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 2: That's just the way that it was, you know. 930 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 7: And we would walk and we would compete, and there 931 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 7: was so much pride in our in our trophies and 932 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 7: our awards, So it was a really big deal. So 933 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 7: have people like a freakin' superstar like Beyonce pay homage 934 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 7: to it is like, yeah, yeah, of course it's incredible 935 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 7: and incredible. 936 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 4: It's incredible because and it kind of at this point 937 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 4: now it has to be a little educational because like 938 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 4: you do need Pose to sort of like give people 939 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 4: like a digestible version of like what this time was. 940 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: You need legendary to kind of. 941 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 4: Have you teach like the standards and conventions of voguing 942 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 4: and like and like drag Race definitely and like has 943 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 4: broken the seal on that and helped that kind of 944 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 4: all come in. And I think like we're about to 945 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 4: move into like hopefully we move into a future where 946 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: it's like it's it's pretty shorthand and everyone kind of 947 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 4: has an understanding of like what this is. 948 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 7: Well, let's hope and let's not forget because I did 949 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 7: live through the AIDS crisis in New York City and 950 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 7: seeing that happen, So having POS tell that story is 951 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 7: just as important as having Pose explain what ballroom culture 952 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 7: is so we don't forget. We can't forget what we've 953 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 7: been through and what our brothers and sisters have fought for. 954 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 7: So it's really important to have all that. I would 955 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 7: love for it to be shorthand so people understand it. 956 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 7: But there's so much more to learn because ignorance is 957 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 7: coming on stronger than gay education. So we need to 958 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 7: block that and educate through love not hate. Everything could 959 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 7: be taught, and it's people needing to realize that who 960 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 7: a person is, who they love, who they are, gender sexuality, fluidity, whatever. 961 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 7: I have a non binary kid who I want to 962 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 7: make this world a better place for, and in order 963 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 7: to do it, we need to do that through love 964 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 7: and education. 965 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Did you get a chance to see the 966 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 3: Renaissance store? 967 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 7: I did not get a chance to see it, but 968 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 7: I am living all of it through TikTok and the 969 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 7: friends in ts Madison gave me the run down. 970 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean we actually came and saw it here in London. 971 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 3: Was anyone at the London uh? 972 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 4: And I praised Tattenham Hotspur and then people got mad. 973 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: They were like, Dad, that's not a cloud. I'm all right, 974 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: that is a whole thing. That's the whole thing. I 975 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: didn't realize. 976 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 3: Just keep your mouth shut, right, But it's a it's 977 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 3: a fabulous venue that I'm sorry to shoot on New 978 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 3: Jersey East Rutherford. 979 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: Could never is. 980 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like the stadium, Mett Life Stadium, it 981 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 3: is the it's a trap, Todd and we got to 982 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 3: walk out. We went to a pub, we killed time, 983 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 3: and then traffic was dead, and then we went home. 984 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, is no better in California? 985 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: Is no better? 986 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 3: Also, you can't you go into a concert at so 987 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 3: Far you can't hear it. 988 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how to. 989 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 3: Explain, but it's a it's a heat conduction and you 990 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 3: can't hear it. 991 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 7: That doesn't worked very well for concerts nor annoying. 992 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 3: I was really excited last year on Dragons when they 993 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 3: did the Night of a Thousand Beyonces because I feel 994 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 3: like that was like overdue. Is there a night of 995 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 3: a thousand Blanks that you would like to see on 996 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 3: drag Race that we haven't done? 997 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: Madonna's done well? 998 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done well? 999 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 2: Was that shady? 1000 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: No? 1001 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: I like, you must have been so shook for a 1002 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 3: night of one thousand Madonna's when four kimonos came out, girl. 1003 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: And like, not, who the fuck is gonna choose that? 1004 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 7: Honestly, Canal Street, there is not one bridle, not one 1005 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 7: like a virsion, not one borderline. 1006 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 2: I had that hat made the minute that freaking song 1007 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: came out. 1008 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: I know, I know, we are owed a good Madonna runway. 1009 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: We'll do it again. Now there's a lot. 1010 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 7: There's a lot, ninety one thousand Eliza's thank you very much, 1011 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 7: oh terrific. 1012 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: All of them coked out singing something wearing. 1013 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 4: Now, before we move on to I don't think so, honey, 1014 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 4: I need to ask an essential question off of vibes alone, 1015 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 4: between Matt and I. 1016 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: Who is the Michelle and who is the Leah Remedy? 1017 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: Who is who is too? I know the answer to this, 1018 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: you do. 1019 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm Leah one hundred percent, one hundred percent. You're made. 1020 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 4: I mean you okay, okay, and you know what? This 1021 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 4: is a Remedy impression. Are you ready. 1022 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm the kind of person who tells you the kind 1023 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 3: of person I am. She always starts her sentences off 1024 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 3: with I'm the kind of person who who leaves the yeah, yeah, 1025 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 3: you know. I'm so proud of her, But I'm like, 1026 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 3: the thing is like I have always been such a 1027 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 3: Leah Reven fan, like ever since childhood, since since all 1028 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 3: of it. I mean the King of Queen's like just genius, 1029 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: and you have been her very best friend. 1030 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: For like how long twenty I think twenty years. 1031 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: So through the scientology Oh. 1032 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody scattered like cockroaches and you study. 1033 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1034 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 3: So when she's in scientology, are you thinking like this 1035 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 3: is a little weird, but like at some point like 1036 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 3: she'll get out of it, or are you thinking like 1037 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 3: that's the thing. 1038 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know, you don't know. 1039 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 7: So one of the first things I asked her when 1040 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 7: I met her was like, so tell me, because you know, 1041 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 7: I did entertainment reporting for all those years on the. 1042 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 2: Radio and you'd hear about but you don't know what 1043 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 2: it is. It's elusive. So I go, what is this 1044 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 2: scientology thing? 1045 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: What is it? 1046 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a church where well, and she's she would 1047 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 7: do what she was told, which was well, listen, if 1048 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 7: you wanted to know what a Catholic mass was, I'd say, 1049 00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 7: go to church. 1050 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 2: Why don't you come with me to the Church of 1051 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: Scientology and check it out. 1052 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 7: That was my Lee impersonation. So I went, yeah, and 1053 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 7: this is my scientology story. Are there any scientologists in here? 1054 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: Whoo? Okay, thank you, Bun this was my story. You can. 1055 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 7: They start out and they get you in good with 1056 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 7: some really important courses that can help your your way 1057 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 7: of life. 1058 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: Always What did you do the one in New York? No, no, no, no, no, 1059 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: the one in New York. 1060 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 3: I went to the one in New York when I 1061 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 3: was in When I was in two thousand and eight, 1062 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 3: I was eighteen years old. I had just gotten too 1063 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 3: n YU. Me and my friend Lizzie were walking in 1064 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 3: Times Square and I was like, let's go in and 1065 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 3: see what the fuck? 1066 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 2: So I gave you take your personality test. 1067 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: I gave him a fake name. 1068 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 1069 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: I went in. 1070 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 3: They put me in what I can only describe as 1071 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,439 Speaker 3: the pre showroom to Tower of Terror. Okay, like where 1072 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: it's like this bunch of like bound books and they 1073 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: closed the doors. And then it's like, I was like, 1074 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 3: so you're watching a video and they're doing the thing. 1075 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 2: Did you go on the cans? 1076 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: I didn't go on the cans, but it was not 1077 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: far away. 1078 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 2: I could, Okay. 1079 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 3: So then they're like, hey, just sign all this paperwork 1080 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 3: and then we'll start emailing you and I'll never forget 1081 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 3: what happened. So as I'm filling out the paperwork with 1082 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 3: a fake name and a fake email. I say to 1083 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 3: the guy, so, why are you in scientology and why 1084 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 3: do you think it's good for you? 1085 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: And he says, you know, when I started scientology, I 1086 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: was in a relationship that really wasn't working for me, 1087 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: and I just noticed that every day I was really angry. 1088 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I got involved with scientology. 1089 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not angry anymore. 1090 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, O, yay, yeah, you seem great. 1091 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 3: And so then we like flat so you didn't take 1092 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 3: any course, No, but essentially you understand why they get you, 1093 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: because in the beginning, at least, what I'm understanding is 1094 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 3: it's base that's a therapy. 1095 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 2: So in a way, but they're like courses. 1096 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 7: Like they'd say to me, well, yeah, you'd pay for 1097 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 7: courses in university or college, so why wouldn't you pay 1098 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 7: from here. So there's like data, and then there's like 1099 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 7: overcoming the ups and downs in life and how to 1100 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 7: be a better parent. And I had young kids, so 1101 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 7: I was like, I want to I want to be 1102 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 7: a good parent. I probably suck, you know, I didn't know. 1103 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 7: I didn't know what I was doing. I had kids, 1104 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 7: and I had no mother. So I was like, I'm 1105 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 7: going to fuck these kids up. I don't mean too, 1106 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 7: but I didn't know. They don't come with a manual. 1107 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 7: You don't know what you're doing. I did my best. 1108 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 7: Here we are, so so I go in to take 1109 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 7: these courses and then I did the fifty dollars ones 1110 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 7: and then one hundred dollars ones. Now, mind you, I 1111 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 7: was working on the radio, so I didn't have a 1112 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 7: lot of salary. So it came to like the eighteen 1113 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 7: hundred dollars one. I said, I don't have the money. 1114 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 7: I didn't have the money to do it. And they said, well, 1115 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 7: you can. 1116 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: Borrow a friend's credit card. And I was like, what 1117 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 2: kind of friends you think I got? 1118 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, And they were like, you know, I don't know 1119 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 7: if this is relevant here, but there's an actress called 1120 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 7: Jenna Elfman. 1121 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we love Jenna Elfman, big scientologist. Never mind, 1122 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 3: don't we love Jenna. 1123 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 7: We left door, we left arvingreg So when they said 1124 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 7: they said, and I quote, when Jenna wanted to go clear, 1125 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 7: going clear as getting rid of all. 1126 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: The defeat the Michigan this shit. 1127 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 7: Then when Jenna wanted to go clear, she borrowed a 1128 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 7: friend's credit card, and I was like. 1129 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 2: Good for Jenna. 1130 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1131 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of a friend. So the 1132 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 2: guilt came right. 1133 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 7: They put me on the cans and my husband was 1134 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 7: like eye rolling and all that stuff, and I'm not 1135 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 7: I'm just telling you like it is. You guys can 1136 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 7: make up your own minds. I'm not an sp but 1137 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 7: well yes I am. So it came down to that 1138 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 7: and I was like, I can't afford it, and Leah's 1139 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 7: mother stepped in trying to make it affordable. The idea 1140 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 7: of paying for me to do it is not really 1141 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 7: on the cards because you have to do it for yourself. 1142 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 7: So I moved back to New York to do a 1143 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 7: radio a radio job, and I said, all right, I'll 1144 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 7: go back to the church and I'll take this course. 1145 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 2: I took this course. This is when I left. 1146 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 7: Okay, So I've taken about six courses at this point 1147 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 7: and it was time to make a commitment or get out. 1148 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, am I going to do it or not? 1149 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 7: I still was like some and doesn't feel right because 1150 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 7: when I say the cans, they give these things that 1151 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 7: look like two soup cans and it's. 1152 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 2: Called an e meter. 1153 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 7: It's supposed to measure your energy to see if you 1154 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 7: worked through what was in the course. I bullshitted my 1155 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 7: way through those e meters like you could totally. It's 1156 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 7: like a lie detector. Anyway, I get to the course 1157 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 7: and they start explaining something called the tone scale, and 1158 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 7: that tells you where people are rated in life. So 1159 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 7: murders and pedophiles are down at like one hundred, and 1160 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 7: like you know, a deity, a god is like at 1161 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 7: zero whatever. I started going through the scale and literally 1162 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 7: at like ninety something was pedophiles, Uh huh, murderers and homosexuals. 1163 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I took. 1164 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: The book and I shut it. 1165 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 7: And when they do that, they come over and they say, 1166 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 7: because there's a teacher walking around the whole time making 1167 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 7: sure you understand. 1168 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 2: And he said what word didn't you understand? 1169 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 7: And I was like that homosexuals are pedophiles and murderers. 1170 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: And he said, what are you talking about. 1171 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 7: I said, gay people are on the same tone and 1172 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 7: I said I quit and I walked out. He's like, 1173 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 7: you can't quit as a girl by yeah. And I 1174 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 7: called Leah's mother and I said, I'm never going back. 1175 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 7: And they called me for months and I told lean Liah's. 1176 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Like I get it. 1177 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 7: I get it, and I'm like, how can you do it? 1178 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 7: And it kind of slowly started to dwindle and then 1179 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 7: she started uncovering shit. 1180 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she had to do it her. 1181 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 7: Way, and it's been it's been rough man, but she's 1182 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 7: a fucking beast. 1183 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's amazing. 1184 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 3: I read her book and I watched the A and 1185 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 3: E series Put Yourself out There, and I know it's 1186 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: still hard. 1187 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 7: It is hard to this day because they see everything 1188 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 7: she's doing. But she's only speaking her truth and letting 1189 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 7: people speak their truth and letting She's trying to help 1190 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 7: and that's what, ironically, scientology is supposed to do. 1191 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1192 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 3: All I want to is for her to be in 1193 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:51,919 Speaker 3: more things because second act she. 1194 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Was okay and best Buds. 1195 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Second Act was my favorite movie of the year because 1196 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 3: this happened. 1197 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: This was a choice that Leah Remedy made in second act. 1198 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 3: So j Loo's like, I'm stressed out because business and 1199 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 3: also you know, juggling my life as a mom, and 1200 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Leah remone She's like, all right, listen, and before she answers, 1201 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 3: she unbuttons the top button of her pants and then 1202 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 3: she goes, here's what you gotta do, But before she 1203 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 3: could give the advice, she's like, let me unbutton. 1204 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: This top button. That's that's a choice. 1205 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 2: That's I said. 1206 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: That is a real comedic icon right there. 1207 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Amazing, She's amazing, and we celebrate, Oh my gosh, give 1208 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 3: it up. But I always wonder about like clearly cool 1209 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 3: people who are in it, and then like, you know, 1210 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 3: all you want is for people to see the light, 1211 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 3: but it feels like it's tiny. 1212 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: It's a small amount of people. Now I live next 1213 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: to the Scientology Celebrity Center in LA and there ain't 1214 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: nobody in there. 1215 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 2: More than you know. 1216 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the best, and that dove tails perfectly. And 1217 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, wouldn't you say, Bowen? This 1218 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,919 Speaker 1: is I don't think so honey. 1219 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 4: This is our segment we do every episode of the podcast. 1220 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 4: We take one minute to rail against something in pop culture, 1221 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 4: the culture in general. 1222 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 2: What did you choose tonight, Bowen? 1223 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Well you'll see, you'll see matdam Bowen. 1224 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 3: So Boone's gonna go first tonight because I'm gonna I'm 1225 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 3: actually do something sort of uh form breaking and exciting. 1226 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: So Bowen, such a rebel I'm the leah. 1227 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 2: Yes you are button your pants. 1228 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: I actually just did have to button the back. But 1229 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: we have moved, all right. 1230 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 3: So Bowen Yang, this is your I don't think so, honey. 1231 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 3: I do have a phone that I can time you. 1232 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 3: So Bowen Yang is gonna take his one minute right 1233 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 3: now to rant against something in pop culture that needs 1234 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 3: a railing against Bowen Are you ready? 1235 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's it's yeah, I'm ready. 1236 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. This is down, Yanks. I don't 1237 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 3: think so many as time starts now. I don't think so, honey, 1238 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Percy Pigs because because because wait, wait wait wait wait, 1239 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 3: Decoram let him get do it, Decora because Decoram Now. 1240 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 3: MNS Foods has a fucking choke hold on these things 1241 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 3: and it's holding them hostage. How dare you have exclusive 1242 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 3: sale over the best candy in the world, thank you? 1243 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 3: And I can't go to a food so anything and 1244 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 3: buy one along with my dental fluss. 1245 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: How dare you? I'm not going to M and S 1246 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,439 Speaker 1: for anything else. 1247 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm not buying one of your fucking sandwiches, bitch. I 1248 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 3: only have to donat you to buy this candy, and 1249 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 3: then I feel like a fuck I look like a 1250 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 3: groomer walking sentence with all the candy, looking like a groomermines, 1251 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 3: you're making me look crazy, like a damn pedo, as 1252 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 3: they say in the UK. 1253 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Five seconds. 1254 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 4: I just need a one stop shop where I can 1255 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 4: order Percy pigs off of uber eats or deliver like 1256 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 4: any self respecting person in the UK would do. 1257 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: And that's one minute. 1258 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 3: And can I say, yes, I just tried them backstage 1259 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 3: from us. 1260 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Yes, how dare you? 1261 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 3: That's made with real Jews, real Jews. And you can 1262 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 3: really tell, you can tell. I felt vitamin C flowing 1263 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 3: through me. I said, our candy is horseship. 1264 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: It's true. 1265 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 3: It's true, Bohen, I really feel like you struck a nerve. 1266 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, did you see the topography of that 1267 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: was because they thought that you were going to drag it. 1268 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,919 Speaker 1: They hated it at first. 1269 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 3: They thought you were agreed that they thought you were 1270 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 3: dragging it based on quality. You were dragging it based 1271 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 3: on the availability availability it creates. 1272 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm so done with artificial scarcity. 1273 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Fuck off. Yeah, it's out there. 1274 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 3: Put it out there, and we're taking all four bags 1275 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 3: of it and we're bringing it home and customs can 1276 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 3: eat our ass. 1277 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 7: Well, if they're filled with thirsty pigs, they might they. 1278 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 3: Might quite enjoy it, Sirs and Madams. 1279 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,439 Speaker 1: All right, so here's here's what I'm doing. Okay, four break. 1280 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 3: So you know, Bowen and I used to do a 1281 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 3: live show based on this segment called I Don't Think 1282 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 3: So Honey Live, where we'd bring fifty comedians on stage. 1283 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 3: This is back in the day, back in Brooklyn. We 1284 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 3: bring fifty of our friends on stage and everyone would 1285 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 3: do a I don't Think so honey. And if someone 1286 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 3: didn't have an idea, they could reach into what. 1287 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Was called the troll bowl. 1288 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 3: Yes, people, and they would have to do and I 1289 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 3: don't Think so honey on that topic. Now, usually that 1290 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 3: topic was a beloved thing that it would be hard 1291 01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 3: to talk shit about. 1292 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Julie Andrews, Julian Andrews one, yeah, Malala, Malala. Yeah. 1293 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 3: So basically what I want is I'm gonna do the 1294 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 3: trouble tonight. Who hasn't I don't Think so honey topic 1295 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 3: that they feel it would be hard for me to 1296 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 3: drag through? Absolute it's so easy. 1297 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: What did you say, Princess d got it? 1298 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 4: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think some money on 1299 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 4: Princess Die. His time starts now. 1300 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Princess Dye learned to drive. 1301 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,439 Speaker 3: Your own fucking carn Tell where you're going. I don't 1302 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 3: think so, honey, Princess Die. Your sons are fucked up, babe. 1303 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 3: There had to be something that you could do. 1304 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't think's, honey, Princess. 1305 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 3: Di Dody, Mama, we had everyone in the world and 1306 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 3: went with Doe. 1307 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: You getting in the backseat with Dony. You're going nowhere fast? 1308 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think so, honey, Princess Die. They 1309 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: have not figured you out on the crown, Mama, Miss 1310 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: thing playing you is too tall. 1311 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: What's Mama's name is Elizabeth de VICKI too tall? Fifteenth 1312 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 3: too tall? Princess died. The name is a little on 1313 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 3: the nose. 1314 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think, soney, Princess died. We're really How can 1315 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you get even a little wet for Charles? You liar, 1316 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you're some fake princess. That one minute? Oh great rough? 1317 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Wh Michelle did not like that row. That's the name 1318 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: of the I don't think so, honey. Game okay gets 1319 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:54,959 Speaker 1: a little rough. 1320 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm on my way to becoming a national treasure. 1321 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 1: There I know, And yet you have to share the 1322 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: stage with me a heave. 1323 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. I want to say, 1324 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: do not reflect my opinion. 1325 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: We love Princess Die. I believe none of what I said. 1326 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Donty loved her, Don't he loved Don't you point your 1327 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 3: finger at me? He loves her, Donty love love her? 1328 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,759 Speaker 3: Loved I'm just saying, here's the deal. If I'm looking 1329 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 3: like Princess Die, I'm not checking up with Dody. 1330 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: But he was so rich, he was so rich. 1331 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 2: I went to Harod's. 1332 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 7: He would you get anything in harrod It's just fucking magical. 1333 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 2: It's one giant palace of ood. 1334 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 4: Dude like this this, Oh my god. I didn't go 1335 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 4: to Selfridges until recently. 1336 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 2: Love it sausages. 1337 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: We call it sausages. 1338 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Sausages just because it sounds like sausages. 1339 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: Are these old doughty things. 1340 01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 3: No, Harrod's was a Diana Well, herod was a yeah, Mohammed, Yes, 1341 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: the father, it is the father. And he was here 1342 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 3: Muhammad al Fayette, Yes, Tony Fayette being the Soviet correct 1343 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 3: and he shucks up with Princess Di and he loved her, 1344 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 3: and he loved her. 1345 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 1: Michelle, Now, no, no, okay, how do you want to proceed? 1346 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to do one? 1347 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 3: No? 1348 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Because you I don't know. I didn't have one. 1349 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: There's nothing that grind, there's nothing that. 1350 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 3: Irritates you on a day to day basis. Well, well, 1351 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 3: well it doesn't have. 1352 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 4: To be pop cultural, obviously, it can be something going on. 1353 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 3: You know, the color green, the color green. I don't 1354 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 3: think so many of the color greens you've got. You've 1355 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 3: got one minute on the color Now they're starting to 1356 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 3: come for you about your hatred of the color green. 1357 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 3: They're like, Michelle, you can't actually positively hate color green 1358 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 3: this much? 1359 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Why do you hate it? 1360 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 3: Oh? 1361 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Okay, this is your moment. 1362 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 3: This is Michelle, This is Michelle Vesage's I don't think 1363 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 3: the money on the color green. 1364 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: Tarley starts now. 1365 01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 2: I don't think so, motherfucker, the color green. 1366 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,719 Speaker 7: If I was a pink person, the color green wouldn't 1367 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 7: be so bad. 1368 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,799 Speaker 2: But I am yellow. 1369 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 7: So if I if I had to wear a yellow 1370 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 7: based green, people would go, I'm so sorry about the 1371 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 7: hepatitis C. 1372 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know. If I wore a yellow. 1373 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 7: Based green, I would absolutely look like well, I need 1374 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 7: some in you. 1375 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Know, infusion. 1376 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 1: That's the one that I'm looking for. 1377 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 2: But I don't do that too. 1378 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 7: I don't think so, honey, because then we go to 1379 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 7: dark green. Dark greens look good on certain color skin. 1380 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 7: But every drag queen that comes up has to counterbalance 1381 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 7: with color correction. Right for the most part, we have oranges, 1382 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 7: we have yellows, and you know what color doesn't look 1383 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 7: good on that green very much. You don't want to 1384 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 7: look like you're dying. The key is to look like 1385 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:51,919 Speaker 7: you're alive. 1386 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 2: Yes, In turn, stay the fuck away from pond scum green. 1387 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 2: There we go, Yeah. 1388 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: And now we know, honestly, alexis Michelle found hopefully not 1389 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: green in the future. 1390 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,600 Speaker 2: There are greens I like. Just to clear it up, 1391 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,480 Speaker 2: I love jade, and I love Hunter. 1392 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,759 Speaker 1: Green, Kelly Green Kelly. 1393 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 7: When you start to go green screen or you start 1394 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 7: to go baby shit, that's when I'm. 1395 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Out baby shit. 1396 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 3: Okay, So everyone out there looking to put their RuPaul's 1397 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 3: Drag Race audition tapes together, Hunter Green, Kelly, green. 1398 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 7: Emerald green, amal green, jewel tones are beautiful on everybody. 1399 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 7: But I will say this, people of color, dark skinned 1400 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 7: people look beautiful in every green, so there's that jealousy 1401 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 7: right here. 1402 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Or if you're a not green eyed person. 1403 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm green eyed too. It doesn't work everyone. 1404 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 1: This has been so much fun. 1405 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming our guest Massicious, But it's ma 1406 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,639 Speaker 3: Roger the Moon. 1407 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah you know. 1408 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: What day cat that movie