1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Straight fire? Fam It's me, Jason McIntyre. Straight fire for 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Friday September. Got A great episode today. It's gonna be 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: a really good one. You have a phenomenal guest. He 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: sets lines for Bet Online, one of the websites. When 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: people ask Jay j where do you bet online, I 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: don't you know, reveal that because A. or do you 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: work for the I R S. B uh, they're not 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: paying me and see do your own homework. Guys. Bet 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Online is a reputable offshore site if you do feel 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: like recreational wagerings. So I brought Dave Mason on to 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: break down the game. Three lines where the big money is. Um. 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: We recorded it on Thursday before steelers Brown, so we 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: didn't get into that because I knew I'd talked about 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: it here on the podcast. At the end of the 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: pot I have all the bets I've made. For College football, 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: only one and NFL plenty. I think you gonna like 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Dave Mason. Um, I just just to tease what he's 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: gonna say. He is a big jets fan this weekend. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 1: He's a big broncos fan this weekend. You can tell 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: where that's going. But what what? We got to get 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: to that in a little bit, but first we gotta 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: start with that ugly, just boring ass football game. steelers seventeen, 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: browns twenty nine. Not The low scoring game we anticipated, 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: but the like boring game. It felt like the crowd 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: was just quiet. I don't know if that was the 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: Amazon factor. It didn't feel like Casey was particularly loud 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: last week and now this week it didn't feel like 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium had much energy. But the game also 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: just kind of was dull. A lot of running and 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: I think the big takeaway. Oh, listen. Obviously the browns 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: did not like finished strong. The defense did not look 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: good in the first half, but they got the win, 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: they get the cover the it went over the total 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: of thirty eight and a half and then, of course 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: they end games shenanigans. If you picked up the browns 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: defense and fantasy, like me and my son didn't two 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: of our four leagues, you benefited from the touchdown, because 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: here I am thinking, Oh, the browns will sack Mr 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: r whisky six times. He's bound for an interception in 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: a fumble, like he does every week. Rabisky played a 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: clean game they only sacked him once late and then 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: they get the gift lateral touchdown. Gosh you love. That 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: didn't impact the spread or the total. It did well. 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: If you tease the steelers, and I don't know why 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: you would Um, then you took an hell, but it was. 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: It was a bonus from my fantasy team. I think 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: the only takeaway from this game is just watching Pittsburgh. 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: They've now played three games this season. They were outgained 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: badly by Cincinnati but got the lucky overtime win. They 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: were out gained by overall hundred and twenty yards against 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots and they were outgame on Thursday night football 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: by the browns and Jacoby Brisette. It's one thing to 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: lose to Joe Burrow. They got lucky and beat him. 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: It's another thing to lose to Mac Jones, who middle quarterback. 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: He was good last year, he ain't all that yet 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: this year. And now you lose to Jacoby Brissette and 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that Trabinsky is not the answer. And 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: you have to wonder, with extra time to prepare, does 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh say, you know what, let's gets Trabinsky out of there, 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: let's get the rookie Kenny pick it some um first 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: team Reps. we've got the jets on deck. That's a 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: very winnable game. We think the jets might win and 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: go two and one, like why don't we? Why don't 65 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: we see what the rookie's got? And of course, you 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: know Mike Tomlin was asked that after the game last night. 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Instantly he's like, definitively no, we're sticking with Mitch, and 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he's just one of these old 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: school dudes who just you know, he wants to go 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: with the safe quarterback that he knows. thinking. You know what, 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: we made the playoffs last year. Why can't we do 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: it again? I mean, I don't know how much of 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: a realist Mike Tomlin is, but at one and two 74 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: you have the jets on deck. If you somehow manage 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: to lose that game at home, and I don't think 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: they will, you're debt. It's over, because after that got buffalo, 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: you're not throwing Kenny Pickett against the best team in 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: the league, not to mention a nasty defensive front. You're 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: not throwing them up the week after that against Tampa, 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: which just eats up quarterbacks. Young, old, good bad he 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: they eat up everybody. And then after that you've got 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Miami in prime time. I don't think you want to 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: pick its first game to be in prime time. Then 84 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: after that's Phil Philly. They got a great defensive front. 85 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: We just saw what they did to kirk cousins in 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: prime time. After that New Orleans, now that one's at home, 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: and Saint Steve. We'll see if they travel. I don't 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: know about them in Carolina this weekend. It's not a 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: bet for me. But bottom line, there's some really good 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: defenses on deck. If you don't go to Drabinsky now, 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you go to him until around Thanksgiving. 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: That's when it eases up. You get the Bengals at home, 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you get the colts, the Falcons. Those three games are weaker, 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: but this has got to be the spot for Robinsky. 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: If you want to pull them. Hey, Mitch, we showed you. 96 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: This is not an indictment. We're just gonna change it 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: up a little bit now. I don't know how much 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: that would of a factor. Uh, the young rookie is 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: going to be because, frankly, that offensive line is Putrid. 100 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Trabinsky ends up scramblings for his life. A lot of 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: times he wasn't terrible. He just doesn't inspire confidence. You 102 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: don't watch him saying, all right, two minutes Drel Trabisky, 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: we got this. You know, I mean, I just if 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: you're a Pittsburgh stealers fan, you've got to be clamoring 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett asked for the browns Um Jacoby percent 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: look kind of good. I don't know. I mean you know, 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: last week's lost to the jets is a brutal one, 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: because otherwise this team should be three and oh and 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: remember there without Deshaun Watson until December. Can they hold 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: it down that long? Next up, ATLANTA FALCONS, a trip 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: to Hotlanta, the dirty birds. That's a team we will 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: definitely be talking about at the end of the podcast. 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: So Brown's get the win, they get the cover total 114 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: goes over fantasy victory and we have them maybe a 115 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: mini quarterback controversy. All at all. That's a good Thursday 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to night. All right, let's get to our guest, Dave 117 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: Mason of bet online. Jason Likes to think he knows 118 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: dance want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a 120 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: guy who does. Let's just say I know a guy 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: who knows a guy he knows another guy. All right, 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: let's welcome into straight fire a guy you surely know. UH, 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: he's all over the media all the time. He's super popular. 124 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: He runs bet online, a popular gambling site, and his 125 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: name is Dave Mason. Dave, how are you? I'm well, man, 126 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: week three the NFL so busier than ever. It's been 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: a great start to the season. So, uh, I love it. Man. 128 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: You know, summer guy get a little bored and Saraday 129 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and Sunday I don't know how I'm gonna do with myself, 130 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: but now I got stuff to do during the weekends. 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: It's funny. You say, I've been a great two weeks. 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Is it ever a bad week for the house? I 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: mean really, and yeah, you do. You have the if, if, if, 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: the favorites and the overs are covering and you, you get, 135 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you get, you get taken down. Um, you know, you got. 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: When you're in this industry, got, whether you're better or 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: you're booking. You gotta think long term because because you're 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: going to have those weekends. We have one week, I 139 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: can't remember. We had a few weekends last year or 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: as tough, but we have one that was as brutals. 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: As you know, the biggest winning weekend in the history 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: of the company for the public and uh so, so 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you do? You know you'll have bad days, you'll have 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: bad and maybe a bad week here there during here, 145 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna having a bad month and you're 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: not gonna have a bad year. So you know, it's up, down, up, down. 147 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Obviously you're high up at bed online, 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: but is there anybody who comes to you after you 149 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: guys have a bad weekend? It's like hey, Hey, what 150 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: the hell happened? Well, why do we set such bad lines? 151 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Or do they understand it is a long game? We're 152 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: cleaning up over the course of the seasons? Yeah, I mean, Hey, 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you know I'm not too high up, you know, but 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's part of the game. You know, 155 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: it depends if you have a bad line out there 156 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and you're getting beat. You know if you have. That's 157 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: the frustrating part. You know, if the over, if the 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: favorites of the overs, are covering, there's nothing you can 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: do about it. You know, you can only go up 160 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: so high. You know, everybody thinks you get fifty, fifty 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: action on on on a, on a, on a game 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: and you're just scooping the juice, that that's not correct. 163 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: You're you're we're trying to post the sharpest odds. So 164 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, even if money's on the favorite on a 165 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: particular game, Um, you know if that favorite covers, you're 166 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna get beat. But you can't go up too high 167 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: or else you get beat by the shark because they're 168 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: waiting for that price. And so you know, as long 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: as you're doing it that way, no one gets bad. 170 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: But you know that if the guys are slow to trigger, 171 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, if sharp action comes in and you know fifty, 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: you take a fifty bet on one side and you 173 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: don't move it right away and then you, you know, 174 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: taking all these other bets in the screen is moving 175 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: and you guys are saying our guys are slow to 176 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: the trigger and you're taking all this another fifty that 177 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: comes in. That that's when. That's when you have to 178 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: start answering questions like, well, what the heck happened here? 179 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, fifty sharp back came in and you didn't 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: move immediately. You moved a minute later, within that minute, 181 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: you took another hundred thousand dollars. Now you got nifty 182 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: dollars on on the sharp side, the wrong side. So 183 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that's when you saw I started to answer questions. So 184 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: it's not, you know, it's not necessarily okay, you guys lost. 185 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we did everything right, the numbers just 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: didn't fall the right way. But you know, if there 187 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: if you left yourself open for more of a loss, 188 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: then it's like, you know, what the Heck you did? Well, 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, you guys are sleep at the wheel a 190 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: little bit. All right, before we get the week three, 191 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: just a quick question because, like you know, I know, 192 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: market origination is a big topic in the industry as 193 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: the gambling gold rush is going nuts in the last 194 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: five years Um. For you at Bet Online, is it 195 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: a race to beat people to the punch, or do 196 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: you care more about hey, we're willing to take big action, 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: whereas some books, they you know, they just refused to 198 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: take any sharp action. Where do you stand on all that? Yeah, 199 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean we've been known to take sharp action, you know, 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: for years now. You know, I respect books that don't 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, they get called out, but it's like, Hey, 202 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: that's that's there. That's their philosophy. Our owners, the guys 203 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: who run the business. They know we want we want. 204 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: We want volume, right. We want as much volume as 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: that possible. Um. You know, with that sharp action comes 206 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: big volume. So these guys are bent four or five, 207 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: even six figures Um. So you know, it's it's you 208 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: take that sharp action. We open our lines early. Of 209 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: course there's risk management ball if you're not opening, you 210 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: know when you open. These odds are open. I think 211 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: we're opening three thousand dollar size and two thousand totals, 212 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: or maybe it's two and one. Um We're opening pretty 213 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: much before. The industry is a gold rush. Now it's 214 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: it's like people are opening up earlier and earlier. We're 215 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: just kind of good. It's good for the betters, you know. 216 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: We it used to be us, you know, but back 217 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: in the day was another book. Then we started doing 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it first, and now it's it's like, you know, it's 219 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: it's an arms race who's gonna open them first. But 220 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: we still do, I'd say most of the time, open 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: the odds first, and and that's a good thing, for 222 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: the better, because, you know, we're all competing with each 223 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: other now. All these books to to get the odds 224 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: up first. But uh so, anyways, he opened them up, 225 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, to three thousand are two thousand are limits 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know you're not gonna get killed that way. Um, 227 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: you know you'll have some intelligent action coming in on 228 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: those odds, sure, but you're not gonna have those super 229 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: sharp big volume betters. Those guys are waiting until later 230 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: in the week when the limits go up everywhere, because 231 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of aults and, you know, limits 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: or five figures whatever, and then they're they're firing. So 233 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: by then, hopefully your odds are shaped a little bit better. 234 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: So so now we're we're a D percent. Bring on 235 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: sharp action. Now. That being said, you know, if guys 236 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: are just paying quarters or, you know, Russian Ping paw 237 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: or something, then it's like, you know, these guys are 238 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: just props and we have to deal with those guys differently. 239 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: But they're firing at you know, the the standard sports, 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: the standard, you know, spread total money line. If they're 241 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: giving US action there, then they're they're gonna be able 242 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: to get down for a good amount. But again, if 243 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: they're just whould wink in us with, you know, third 244 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: quarters and and uh rugby and all the props and 245 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Then it's like come on, guys, you 246 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: know you gotta we need volume, we need will take 247 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: sharp action. As always, you get buy back from the public. 248 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: But YOU'RE NOT gonna get buy back from the public 249 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: then the buy back from the public on a you know, 250 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: a second quarter line or Russian Ping Pong or, you 251 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: know rugby has or God knows what else. You know 252 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I saw him last week. Um, 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, I've been following day on on social media 254 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: for a while and I saw last week, I think 255 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: it was Sunday, that you posted there was a hundred 256 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollar bet on Sunday on someone. I'm forget it. 257 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Was it the the giants? Maybe? I forget who it was, 258 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: but instantly my first question is, okay, a it was 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: it sharp action and be did you move the line? Now, 260 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Dave can't answer all this stuff because he's got a 261 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: lot of followers and you know, the guy may be 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: following him, but I'm curious. Dave, four week three. What's 263 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the biggest bet you've taken? As we record this on 264 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. Oh, biggest bet we've taken. Let's let me 265 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: see here at the check here. Um, I mean a 266 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of the bigger bets don't come until Game Day. 267 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just clicking on here. We've got twelve 268 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on Indianapolis. Um, plus seven. Let's let's see 269 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: we got tonight. So we'll wait. Hold on Indie. Indie 270 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: plus seven. Um, it's now as market wide, probably five 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and a half. Right. So I'm guessing you considered that 272 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: better sharp one. Right. Well, it's, it's it doesn't mean. 273 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: It's just like a sharp better. Um, you know it's 274 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: a it's a sharp number for sure. It doesn't mean it. 275 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: You know you got it. It's a long term game. 276 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Anybody can get a good 277 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: number here and there, but Um, it's, you know, a 278 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: good number. Now. Oh, it's a hell of a good number. 279 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: And now this guy sharp long term. I'm not sure. 280 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: His account number doesn't really ring a bell, but he 281 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: sure as hell got a great number there. I feel 282 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: I feel like a jackass. On Tuesday's podcast I said 283 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: the chiefs were one of my better places this week. 284 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: That was the first bet I made Kansas City. I 285 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: got it six and a half. I thought it would 286 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: go up, because now you know, no pittman, no Leonard. 287 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Now it looks like Pittman's trending towards playing. I know 288 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman is not worth a point to the spread, 289 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: but you know, backs against the wall, all that silly 290 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: narrative stuff. All right, I don't know. I still think 291 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes puts it on him here. It feels like 292 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Indie is the most public side, but maybe I'm just, 293 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, talking to sharp people who are smart and 294 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: I want to get one of Bet Indie. Huh. Well, 295 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean the majority of our action in that game 296 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: is on Casey. Um, you know, and a good sign. Yeah, 297 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's not. It's the biggest bet game for 298 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Sunday so far. Um, I'll tell you that. Much has 299 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: the most volume and the most bet count split. No, 300 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: not at all, at all. percent the well Beck count. Ye, 301 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: the bets are on Casey, where eight percent of the 302 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: cash is on case but uh, it definitely is getting 303 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the most early action. Um, for sure. You Know Casey 304 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: and he's like those games that are right in there. There, 305 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: those those and there's a ton of them. This weekend 306 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: the action is gonna WE'RE gonna have a lot of 307 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: big decisions this weekend because there's a lot of road, 308 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: road favorite those are the games that get the big 309 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: one sided action because you know, you got a team 310 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: like Casey, they're they're looking great. Then you got a 311 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: team on the other side, Indie, that's looking horrible and 312 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: it's minus five and a half. And the people that 313 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: this that all the kind of more recreational bettors who 314 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: just don't understand the home home field advantage. They're looking 315 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: at all. They're looking at that minus five and a half. 316 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: No Way should casey only be given five and a 317 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: half versus Indianapolis. They're not factoring in the UH, you know, 318 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the home field, they're just looking at that number. So 319 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, good God, there there's so many Um, you know, 320 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: road favorites this weekend. So it's gonna be a lot 321 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: of that. It's weird, you know. I know I don't 322 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: care how much. I don't know how much you care 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: about the actual matchup, but all I've heard from people 324 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: was like well, Indie can stop. Remember that game a 325 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: couple of years ago at Arrowhood. I was like guy, 326 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: indie had a real defense. They had a April fluer. 327 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: He's gone. Did you see Trevor Lawrence was like eight 328 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: team for eight team to start the game. This is 329 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: not a good indie defense. anyways. Clearly I got I 330 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: got a bad number and I'm on the public side. 331 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Not a great Combo Da. Fox Sports radio has the 332 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 333 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports radio DOT COM and within 334 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: the I heart radio APP, Search F S R to 335 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: listen live. What about forty niners? They are also road favorites. 336 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: That's Sunday night football. I'm assuming about decision. That's gonna 337 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: be massive. I mean the Prime Time Games are always 338 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, I just said that the case, and indie 339 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: getting the most actions so far, but when it's all 340 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: said and done, Sunday, the night game, will definitely have 341 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the most action. Those standalone games are big and this 342 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: game will be big. You know the forty niners, and 343 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: now Jimmy G's under center broncos. They're struggling. This is 344 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: one of those games, man. We're gonna be huge broncos fans. 345 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: You Got Forty niners are looking good now and the broncos, 346 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: who don't look that great early, cashes on the forty niners. 347 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: Um Seventy of the early bettors are on the forty nurs. 348 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: They actually opened plus one and a half Um and 349 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: they're now currently one and a half point road, road favorites. 350 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: So is that the a sign that the general public that, 351 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, the guys who are fans and betting twenty 352 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: bucks and not doing a ton of analysis, and the 353 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: guys who are betting, you know, not twelve thousand but five, 354 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars? Everybody on the niners? Oh, you know, 355 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: so far. I mean I'm looking at our biggest bets 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: here Um and again. These, these these bets will be 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot bigger comes Sunday, but you know, a lot 358 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: of not a not a lot of big wagers. Yet 359 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: you got three thousand on. Three thousand on those big 360 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: bets come into Game Day, man. I mean you know 361 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: they come in the big on gay day, whatever reason. Well, 362 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: first of all, the limits are bigger, but we raise 363 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: our limits. You can get down for substanceal amount of money. 364 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: But you know that that that just proves too that 365 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot of these big betters aren't really sharp. You know, 366 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: one thing I've learned in this industry, Um, is a 367 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of people have a lot of money out there 368 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing how much. I mean there's so many 369 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: rich people out there and so it's it's just incredible 370 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: that how much they bet on these games. And it 371 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're sharp. And you know, it's probably smarter 372 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: than the average better, but you know, uh whatever. But 373 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: uh now we're we're definitely gonna need Denver. You know, 374 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: it's just one of those games where San Francisco's trending 375 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: up and Denver has been a disappointment. So, you know, 376 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: small spread. It's we're we're gonna need Denver, without a 377 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: doubt will be, and then hopefully they'll get it done. 378 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: So I already I told you my first bet was chiefs. 379 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: My biggest bet this week, actually bigger than any of 380 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: the bets I made the first two weeks, is the falcons, 381 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and I see I clearly didn't get the three. That's gone. 382 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: It's now pick them. I am curious. Are you seeing 383 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: any action at all? There's a crap game right two 384 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: bad teams. It's just one of these under the radar games. Um, 385 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, Falcons were a road dog, but they still 386 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, they stayed on 387 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the West Coast this week. They did not go back 388 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. A lot of bonding happening. I just think 389 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Seattle's total garbage. Yeah, I mean they shoot that week. 390 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: One game was awesome and that that was. That was 391 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: that was a prime example kind of kind of talking 392 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: about what I would have said earlier where we don't 393 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: book because we needed Seattle so much in that week 394 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: one game and we didn't move the number and and 395 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: because we knew sharp should take it. If we knew, 396 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: moved the number and we dug our heels in the 397 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: sand and and took a position on that game and 398 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: it worked out great. Now, of course, it doesn't always 399 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: work out that well that way, but whatever. Um fout. Yeah, 400 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: sevent early money's Atlanta with you? Sixty seven percent that 401 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: early bedders are on Atlanta. Took some sharp acts and 402 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: on the Falcons at plus two and a half and yeah, 403 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: we open it. I think Atlanta plus two and a 404 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: half and and uh, it's not getting a lot of 405 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: overall action, but who knows? Comes Sunday, you know who knows. 406 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: But looking at the board right now it's UH, the 407 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: only game getting less action is Carolina Saints. I bet 408 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: raiders titans. Oh really, I thought raiders would be a 409 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: slam dunk there. That's a bit of a surprise. Not yet, 410 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: but again, again, we're early. You never know, you just 411 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: never know. Let me ask so, Dave. You look at 412 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's injury report for Thursday, you see both 413 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: safeties are out. You see one of their defensive tackles out. 414 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: They basically they're down four starters as of right now. 415 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Could be as many as six. They're on a short week. 416 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Do you just let the market decide where where the 417 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: lines going, or do you say, you know what I mean, 418 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm I watch the NFL, I set the lines, I'm 419 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: gonna move this ahead of the market down toward Miami, 420 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: or do you wait for the bets? Well, a little 421 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: bit of both. You know well what. We'll tweak it, 422 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: without a doubt. If, if, with deed be Um. Let 423 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: me see where we open that one. Let me see. 424 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: It's definitely moved. I know that. And without yeah, it's 425 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: been six, five and a half. Five, it was four 426 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: and a half for for a minute. So so yeah, 427 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's trended down. But you know, if, if 428 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: people bet it, that's the thing now as well, with 429 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: with just so much information out there that people can 430 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: beat you this information so fast. You know what I 431 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: mean this twitter. I mean we all got we all 432 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: have our tweet decks loaded in and all the information 433 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: coming in. But you know, back in the day, you 434 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: know all these shark guys are hustling and getting newspapers 435 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: from me, you know, all over the country. You know, 436 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: that stuff to say every at everybody's fingertips. Now with 437 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: twitter you're getting in seconds instead of rustling for newspapers 438 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: and calling up beat writers across the country. So it 439 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: just made everything so much easier for for the better, 440 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: to get this information too. So so, yeah, it is 441 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: a challenge, but no, we'll move it off that information 442 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And but, but nothing makes the number 443 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: move more than sharp action. Not Public Action, not not 444 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: our opinion. It's all about the sharp action. We let 445 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: the sharp s dictate where that number is gonna go. 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: So let me, let me, let's drill down on the 447 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: sharps for a second, if you don't mind. So. Obviously 448 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: there's these groups, these syndicates. I have a couple of 449 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: buddies who are involved in some of them and you know, 450 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: every time I hear like, Oh, the sharp action sharps 451 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: are hammering like Dave. Can you just explain in depth 452 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: what you think that means? Because these guys, you know, 453 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: it's not like they're winning seventy percent of the time 454 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: or eighty percent of the time, God now. Now, absolutely, 455 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: they just have more money, right or think where you 456 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: respect that bet because they've been doing it what we 457 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: consider sharp. We look at two things, a long term 458 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: winner and be we we look more of it, but 459 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: these are two main things. At long term winner, anybody 460 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: can go on a win streak for a day, a week, 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: a month, even even longer. Anybody. Not Anybody can, but 462 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot people can, you know. But so long term winner, 463 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, over a season, over a year, over a 464 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: number of years, etcetera. Also, are they getting the best 465 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: of the number? Are they beating that closing line? And 466 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I see that over all over twitter too. You need 467 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: that closing line value. You need to be you know, 468 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: you need be betting games at you're getting it at 469 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: plus three when it closes plus two and a half. 470 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: If you get that long term, you're gonna beat the 471 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: house because that, especially in the NFL, I mean that's it. 472 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: That's such a hard sport to beat because you know, 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: we can do this stuff blindfold of these NFL spreads 474 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: and training. There's so much volume. It's just so, so 475 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: much easier than any other sport to book. But if 476 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: you can do that long term, beat that closing line value, 477 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, the sport, doesn't matter the bet type. If 478 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: you can do that you're gonna beat the house. So 479 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: that's what we look at. You know, I'll get guys 480 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: who have sheets, affiliate sheets, whatever, and I was like all, 481 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: this guy's beating the heck out of my sheet this month. 482 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: He's up with x amount of money. I'm upside down. Blah, blah, blah. 483 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: I haven't sent it to to our main odds guy 484 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: who's the best of the business at this, and I said, 485 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, this guy is sharp. If we want to 486 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: we need to know. And he'll look at it and 487 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: and he'll look those are the things he looks okay, well, 488 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: run it like now he's he's down x amount lifetime. 489 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: He's just on a great run to last few weeks. 490 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: or he'll be like, well, he's up, he's X UP 491 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: X Y Z's over the last three years. And and 492 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: then he looks at his bets and he's like Oh yeah, 493 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: this guy's. This guy's beating the closing number without a doubt. 494 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: So there's that, but there's there's all sorts that, man. 495 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of different kind of sharps and you 496 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: got guys that are scalping. You know they're they got 497 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: bots and they're scalping the numbers and all sorts of stuff. 498 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: But those true originators, I mean those guys, you're tracking 499 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: their bets when they're when their bets come in, we 500 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: notice it and we're moving the odds so that they're 501 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: they're out there. They're out there. It's not just about 502 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: van is about long term winners and if they're getting 503 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the best of the number. I think what hurts most 504 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: about closing line value for instancide the panthers last week. 505 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: I think they've flipped as dogs to maybe one point 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: favorites at close and you're feeling good going in. They 507 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: fumble the freaking opening creek offs and then they get 508 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the ball back and they fumble again and I'm just like, 509 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: you know, what am I gonna do with the closing 510 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: line value on that? It's just frustrating. But, like you said, 511 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: if you could do that historically, yeah, multiple seasons. The 512 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: numbers are gonna bear out in your favor. Let me. 513 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: Let me ask about my jets. This week. There seems 514 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: to be a divide Um. It looks like money's coming 515 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: in and again, correct me if I'm wrong. On the 516 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: Bengals here, despite them being going to jets coming off 517 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: a big win. What are you seeing on the Bengal jets? Uh, 518 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna need the jets con that's gonna be. That's 519 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: right now. That's our most lopsided, most lopside and neat 520 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday again, all this can change early cash is 521 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: on the bengals. Minus six. That'll be a that'll be 522 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: a huge, huge, huge teaser game. Those six points spreads, 523 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: seven point spreads, are just huge teaser games. Everybod he's 524 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: gonna be teasing that down to pick them. So that's 525 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a huge need on Sunday. Without a doubt. 526 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: The money line parlays to you know, those games. Everybody's 527 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: teas in those six point favorites. You know, minus two 528 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: forty five. They'll be teased with. You know, the bills 529 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: and and and all these other teams that are right there. 530 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: And then minus two hundred, three hundred range and they 531 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: tease four or five of those teams to get plus 532 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: two hundred or whatever, and so they start hitting nearly 533 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: oh my God. So so, without a doubt we'll be 534 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: on the jet. We'll need the jets big on Sunday. 535 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: So it sounds like you need the house, will need 536 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos, the jets. I'M gonna go ahead and toss 537 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: Washington in there. Washington, let me let me see. On 538 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: Washington off off Philly's huge win on Monday. Now like 539 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: a contender in the NFC. Everybody's and hurts at the 540 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: wrong time to win M v. As of now? No, 541 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: as of now, no. Again, it's early. But yeah, as 542 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: of now more money is actually on Washington, but I 543 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: think by Sunday that will without a doubt that'll flip. 544 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: You know this. You're talking about n moneys yet to 545 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: come in. So, uh, that count. That count. There's more 546 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: betters on the eagles, but there's more money on Washington, 547 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: and that's you know, this early too. It's like a 548 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: few big bets can just put that at all out 549 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: of whack. You know, it's like that's kind of like 550 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: I tweet the splits, you know, and the early in 551 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: the week. I'll do that count because you know, a 552 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: couple of big bets can just put it all out 553 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: of whack. And then later in the week I'm my 554 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: splits are I do the money. But yeah, by Sunday 555 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm confident and we'll need the eagles. But I'll be 556 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: a big teaser game too, because they're they're minus six 557 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: the eagles or minus six and hats. Everybody's gonna be 558 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: teasing that down to, you know, minus a half a point. 559 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: One last game to look at the how are you 560 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: handling to Justin Herbert cartilage injury? Uh, it looks like 561 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: you guys are at seven now. Seven seems to be 562 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: a market number against the Jaguars, who are kind of frisky, 563 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess this year they're very frisky and people are 564 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: betting him in this game. Let's see, it's about about 565 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: sixty four. Early cash is on the JAGS. Let me 566 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: see back count here and about early bedders are on 567 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: the JAGS. So so yeah, I'll be one to keep 568 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: an eye on. We I think we have a six 569 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: and a half. Now. Where is it? Seven? Um, I 570 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: think six and a half right. Yeah, the chargers historically 571 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: have been choke artists as big favorites. But Again Justin 572 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Herbert is not Philip rivers or whoever the hell else 573 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: they had in the past. But on the injuries, you know, 574 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: especially to a quarterback. Um, was there a big downgrade 575 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: to like a Dak Prescott, to Cooper Rush? Yeah, Um, 576 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean the super bowl odds one from the one 577 00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: fifty one for that game and itself. Last weekend they 578 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: went from two and a half point favorites down to 579 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: seven point underdogs and of course they went out right. 580 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: So what the Hell? What the hell does everybody know? 581 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: And now you've got the media speculating the cooper rush 582 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: and nonsense quarterback battle. Yeah, right. So, Um, you know, 583 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: it's I mean shoot, you know, they think they got 584 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle there one week and we'll see 585 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: how it goes this weekend and going forward. But I'm 586 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: a Philly Guy, so I hope they we needed him 587 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: last week and that's our biggest decision of the weekend 588 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: last week that we need them big time. Um, last weekend. 589 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: So so glad. It's hard rooting for Dallas being from Philadelphia, 590 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: but you know, games like that, I'll do it. I'll 591 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: make exception. So I guess we can wrap up on 592 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: this one. You know, as the gambling gold rush really 593 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: gets popping, and you know Fox and all the other 594 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: networks are talking about gambling, are you seeing a significant 595 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: rising handle every week? Say you're over years, say verse, Twenty, nineteen, 596 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Um like. I mean, how significant are we seeing? Or 597 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: what's your guests as to spinning this forward, I guess 598 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: part two. Where are we in three years? Are there 599 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna be more operators? Will there be a consolidation? That's 600 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: that's that's a tough old band. Well, it's the first thing. 601 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: You our business is better than ever, you know, and 602 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: when all these new books entered the market a few 603 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: years ago, I was a lot more pessimistic. But Um, 604 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's more gamblers out there. That's the thing. 605 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: It used to be. You know, you you watch Fox 606 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: or you know, you watch all the sports shows, all 607 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: sports networks, and no one could mention odds. Everything was 608 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of Hush Hush, wink wink, some kind of vague reference. 609 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Now it's everywhere. I mean you turn on these sports 610 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: shoes and there's there's odds just everywhere. So that's and 611 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: and the competition is this everywhere. So let's just turning 612 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: more betters on and and you know we're here. We've 613 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: been here for, you know, two decades and we know 614 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: what we're doing and we've were an established brand. So 615 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, we've been around here forever. So you know, 616 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: we we have a great product. The earliest opening odds, 617 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, if you like baseball or 618 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: dimelines are some of the best for a lot of 619 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: these new operators don't even know if dime lines are. 620 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: So we're giving great value. Um. So so yeah, I 621 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: mean business is better than ever. So going forward, I 622 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: mean that's a great question. I mean, you know, you 623 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: got a couple of couple of these on new nuance 624 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: shore's they're they're they're just everywhere and some other ones 625 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: are are struggling, I think, but I don't know, man. 626 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean we're here for the long haul. We have 627 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: a we have a great loyal player base who love us. So, Um, 628 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, every year I expect us like, okay, this 629 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: is it, we can't get any bigger, but we keep 630 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: it getting bigger. I would have lost a lot of 631 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: money betting my boss because he was a lot more 632 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: optimistic than I was. But I can be a kind 633 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: of a class half empty kind of guy sometimes, you know, 634 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: being from the northeast and kind of somewhat miserable, but 635 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: it's having that philly attitude, right. But I would have 636 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: lost some money on that. But no, it's awesome, man. 637 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: We're we're killing it. I mean Sunday, the Sunday Nfl Sunday, 638 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: was our we had. That was our second biggest day 639 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: of active sports bettors on the site. The only bigger 640 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: day was last year's Super Bowl. So in the history 641 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: of the site. Yeah, we're getting bigger every year, though, 642 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: and I think that, like I've been here to shoot 643 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: twelve years. Every year we've grown except I think, was 644 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: it two thousand eighteen or two thousand nine? DM COVID 645 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: was a throwout year, right, I mean it screw that 646 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: Um throwout year. But even even then, when football came back, 647 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: I mean we we grew from nineteen, I think was stagging. 648 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: It was either eighteen or twenty nineteen, where it was 649 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: just level. We didn't nothing really happened. But every year, 650 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: other year, has been been growth. Man, it's it's incredible. 651 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, I would have lost a lot of 652 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: money betting on that. Yeah, Geez, all right, Dave Mason 653 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Bet online. Um, Dave, congrats on all your success. I 654 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: would say good luck this weekend, but you know I'm 655 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: betting against you, obviously. I I don't want the how 656 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: to beat me. Uh. You know, thanks for taking the 657 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: time and I enjoy the games anytime. Thanks for having me. 658 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in 659 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 660 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: radio DOT COM and within the I heart radio APP, 661 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Search F S R to listen live. The only thing 662 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: better than sitting on your couch watching the game. He's 663 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: making money while you do it. Here's your best bat. 664 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Good stuff from Dave Mason. It's very clear. I really 665 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: like listening to kind of his breakdown of the Games 666 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: and the money and the public. Like that stuff. Just 667 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: I eat it up. I hear it. It's interesting listen. 668 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: It's not the end all, be all. You can never go, 669 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, a long distance and gambling just by basing 670 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: everything on that. That's just part of the equation, right 671 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: that you break down the games, you track the market 672 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: like it's a big bowl of soup and you hopefully 673 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: you'll you'll cook up something really good tasty that you like. 674 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: So obviously you know my chiefs bet listen, I get it. 675 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: I got a bad number schooling the other way on me. 676 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: I still have confidence at the end of the day. 677 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about Patrick mahomes indoors against a defense coached 678 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: by a guy named Gus Bradley. You guys familiar with 679 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: his work. All mahomes has done is just destroy him 680 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: throughout his career. Gus Bradley has been with the chargers, 681 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: he's been with the raiders and he's always gotten torched 682 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: by mahomes. Now maybe he can change his stripes mix 683 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: things up. I know the indie offense will be all 684 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: geeked and ready to go. I don't know, I'm sticking 685 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: with case. I'm not buying out of that. Elsewhere, your 686 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: boy has clocked in and some of these numbers are gone. 687 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I think I've talked about him earlier in the week. 688 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: Packers Tampa under forty two, niners Denver under forty four. 689 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: And of course watch this started by Cleveland Pittsburgh on 690 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: Thursday be the week that understop cashing and the over 691 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: his flop. Of course, you know that's how life works. Um, 692 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: what else do we have here? Um, we have raiders. 693 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: You know listen, I don't like the raiders. I just 694 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: really don't like the titans. And if you look at 695 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: the injury report, and maybe I'm reading too many injury 696 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: reports this week, honestly every day, you gotta look at 697 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: that Sucker, the titans are beat up. That offensive line 698 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: is decimated. The bills pushed him around. Taylor the one out. 699 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean Sydney Cross, Not Sydney crossy. Max crosby could 700 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: absolutely wreck that game. Now, yeah, Jeffrey Simons, Simmons is 701 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: likely to do the same for Tennessee, but the back 702 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: end of the of the titans. The second area, I 703 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: mean Stefan digs just running all the wide open and 704 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Adams is coming off a small game where he didn't 705 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: virtually nothing in the lost Arizona. This is this is 706 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: a Raider's team that was competitive against the chargers, who 707 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: we all think is the top ten team. It should 708 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: have beat the cardinals up twenty and nothing. Just blew 709 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: the game. I think. I think the raiders will decide here. 710 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't love the travel spot. If you can find 711 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: a three amazing but definite only uh Las Vegas Raiders. 712 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: I am on the New England patriots, a juice three 713 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: it looks like Um, and the under forty three and 714 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: a half as well. It looks like Lamar Jackson. Whatever 715 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: his little practice thing was Wednesday was fine. On Thursday 716 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: he's he's a go, he's throwing. I still think low 717 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: scoring game. Now maybe Mac Jones opens it up like 718 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: two and they exploit that Baltimore Secondary. But I do 719 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: think the Patriots are the side. I'm still a little 720 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: tick that pulled off the Patriots last week because of 721 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: the Mac Jones stuff and they handily be handled. Pittsburgh easily. Um, 722 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: I did take a nibble of Washington at seven, but 723 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: a juice seven. That's long gone and I do wonder. 724 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Is Philly the side in survivor? So I'm in three 725 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: of my four survivors. I almost took Cleveland. I wish 726 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I had in hindsight. You always say that, but it's 727 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, the two most likely sides are Vikings, who 728 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: let me down all the time and they are notorious 729 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: for lifetowns, and the chargers, who have a banged up 730 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: quarterback and also have a history of letdowns. And Jacksonville 731 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: offensively can hang. I don't know if they could stop 732 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: Herbert and company. And and then you keep looking around. 733 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: You're like, what about filling on the road? Will Short Week? 734 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: Everybody loves him. Carson went to revenge game, you know, 735 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: in air quotes and laugh about it. I don't know. 736 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I could see philly losing this game. PHILLY's Philly has 737 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: been just awesome through two games. And I was looking 738 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: at Washington again because I was on Jacksonville in week 739 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: one and Christian Kirk ate him up, just carved him 740 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: up in the slot. Well, what did Amara St Brown 741 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: do in week two in the slot? Washington has no 742 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: chance against him. We think, we think WADDLE'S gonna do. 743 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now, waddle, what do you Davante Smith is 744 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: going to do out of slot? Confusing my Alabama receiver 745 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL, a j Brown, is going to have 746 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: a field day. I like them. I mean they went 747 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: on on the road in Detroit. The problem is this 748 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Philly d for whatever reason on the road. They let 749 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: Detroit come in the back door. Could Washington do that? 750 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: Could Wentz do that? He's not. You know, Wensa gotta 751 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: quit in his first game back in Philly. Sorry, not 752 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: in Philly against Philly. He's gonna be the extra motivation 753 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. That all every show was going to talk about. 754 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: I took Washington plus seven, but it's a juice seven minus, 755 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: so like h bucks to one a hundred, to keep 756 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: it simple. Um, I don't know, guys, I don't love it. 757 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the Eagles and survivor. Um. I had 758 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: teased this on coward, the biggest bet of the season 759 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: so far. I have, and every time I do that 760 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: at jinx myself it's on the Atlanta Falcons. I was 761 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: reading about the Falcons all week because I missed them. 762 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: I think I got him in a bet, but not 763 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: on the contest in week one, and then I passed 764 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: on them against the rams, even though all week I 765 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: talked about kind of liking them or not liking the rams. 766 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: At ten, now three, the rams look good. Falcons come back. 767 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: It feels like a team that's not gonna quit. And 768 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: they did not return to Atlanta after the loss to 769 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: the rams. They just went right up the coast to Seattle. 770 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: Had some team bonding. Um. Some of the Atlanta Journal 771 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: Constitution wrote about it. I think the athletic had a 772 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: piece as well about the stuff they were doing to 773 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of bond and, like you take yourself away from 774 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: all the distractions and the you guys choked away two 775 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: games and uh, there's no long term solutions. And what's 776 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: the problem with Kyle pits? They got away from all 777 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: the noise. I think they kind of put on Seattle here, 778 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: and I'm not a believer in Seattle. Again, I know 779 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: everybody first impressions or everything. And you watch Geno Smith 780 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: and that first half at home against Denver g you know, 781 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: looked like decent. You know, Seattle had what three months 782 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: to put that game plan in place and they look good. 783 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: Guess what they've done since then? Absolutely nothing. Now you 784 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: could say, well, they played the niners and the broncos 785 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: and the Falcons. Don't had that could have a defense. 786 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I would argue falcons. You know, they got a couple 787 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: of good cornerbacks, Grady Jarrett in the middle. I don't 788 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: think see I was gonna have a ton of success. 789 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't buy Gino Smith. So I like Atlanta. It's 790 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: at pick now. I got plus one end pick. They'll 791 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: probably close his favorites. Um, I took the dolphins getting six. 792 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: I will probably hate this bet Friday if all the 793 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: buffalo bills who were injured return to practice I saw 794 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: five defensive, sorry, five offensive and defensive starters had miss 795 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: practice Wednesday and Thursday. That's a lot of guys to 796 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: miss on a short week. Buffalo clearly the better team, 797 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: but you start taking away Gabriel Davis, uh the boat safeties, 798 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips in the middle, and you know this Miami 799 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: team is going to be live to come back with 800 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: the receivers they got, and it looks like Buffalo is 801 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: probably gonna be starting two rookies on the outside. There's 802 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: a dangerous spot for Buffalo. The line has moved significantly. 803 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: I took the dolphins. It's getting six and we shall see. Um, 804 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: I think for my five picks for the contest, I'm 805 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,479 Speaker 1: looking hard. Obviously Falcons, but I think the Minnesota Vikings 806 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: are gonna get in there. I have I'm gonna I 807 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna probably ride with the chiefs, unless that 808 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: line continues to drop significantly. I think I'm looking at Dallas, 809 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that game for Monday's podcast. I 810 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: think I like Dallas. Um, Dallas taking money. By the way, 811 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: giants opened his favorites. I don't know how the hell 812 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: their favorite over anybody. None of the analytics. Like the 813 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: giants raiders, I think I like the rams. If you 814 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: can get a flat three rams against the cardinals. I've 815 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: looked at the matchup history is just like the cardinals 816 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: never show well against the rams. Kingsbury's lost six of 817 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: seven to McVeigh. A lot of the movement blow out. 818 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: The Rans to scored thirty or more points, I think 819 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: in six of the seven meetings or five of the seven. 820 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray, obviously last year, the last two games, 821 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: he was atrocious against this rams defense, the pressure up 822 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: the middle. He doesn't have any receivers on the outside. 823 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean Greg Dorte was their leading receiver. Like, if 824 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: you think Kyler Murray is just gonna scramble around for 825 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: thirty minutes and bail them out again, good luck. Okay, 826 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: you can do that against the raiders. I don't good 827 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: luck doing that against Aaron Donald and company. I just 828 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: don't think he wants that smoke from Aaron Donald and 829 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: I know he had a good game against the rams 830 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: early last season but if memory serves the rams had 831 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: just beaten like Tampa or some it was like a 832 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: massive win and there was a clear come down coming 833 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 1: and I think I even faded them the following week 834 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: and Lord behold, they got smacked by the cardinals. Cardinals 835 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: played well early last year. Still No deandre Hopkins. So 836 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: I think the rams of the side. And finally, I 837 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: really wanted to take Denver. I just can you take 838 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: Denver if there's no judy and no certain their best cornerback, 839 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: their number two receiver, their number three receiver, Tim Patrick, 840 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: who might be there too, is out for the season. 841 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: It's like Kj Hamilon who's always hurt. And then you 842 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: got to deal with Nathaniel hacket. Like I had the 843 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: broncos in UH bets in week one, lost frustrated, and 844 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: I had them in the contest and we two lost frustrated. 845 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: Can I go down three straight weeks with these losers? 846 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: It's just it's tough to swallow. I mean, Nathaniel Hackett 847 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: is so idiotic and Moronic and over his head right now. 848 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: But of course they're underdogs at home. That's different than 849 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: laying nine and a half or whatever it was to 850 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, or laying what was it six, six 851 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: on the road to Seattle. So now you're getting a 852 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: point and a half at home. You're an underdog. I 853 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: think it's I think Denver has to be this Denver 854 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: Pass for me. So anyways, that's my week three breakdown. 855 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: The one college football bet I made came in from 856 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 1: a buddy. I'm not gonna say where he played college football. 857 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: Knows one of these teams extremely well and he said 858 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: lay it with Clemson. So I laid it with Clemson. Seven. 859 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: It's a juice seven. Um. He said it with confidence, 860 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm backing him blindly, as he knows one 861 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: of those teams very, very well and M he told 862 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: me last week about this team's game. Said and I 863 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't make the play because you know, we're friendly, 864 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not super tight with the guy. I was 865 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: like okay, and then I see the result and I 866 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: was like wow, that wasn't a lay up. He's like yeah, 867 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: I know them very well, and so I laid it 868 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: with Clemson against wake forest, Clemson on the road. It 869 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: looks like it's headed towards seven and a half. I 870 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: don't think it'll touch eight, but clemson minus seven in 871 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: college football. All right, guys, have a great, great weekend. 872 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: Talk to you Monday.