1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports talk about some of 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the more interesting aspects of business of sports. So there's 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of cool questions. So this is a fun 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: topic to the country is finally getting the memo about 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: how amazing the sport is. I think the sky's a 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: limit for MLS. We're spending more and more of our 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: time in a digital world, and it's also becoming a 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: really powerful place for commerce. It is so nice to 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: be back and to be able to have fans back 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: in the building. So despite the chaotic schedule, and this 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: is why we do what we do, when you get 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, there's nothing better at the player, an excitement, 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and it's also for the organization sponsors involved. Bloomberg Business 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. This is the Bloomberg Business 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: of Sports show, where we explore the big money issues 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: in the world of sports. I'm Michael barn I'm Scarlett Poom, 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: and I'm Mike Lynch. Coming up today, we're speaking with 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: five time All Pro wide receiver and NFL Hall of 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: Famer Terrell Owens. He's been adding to his resume off 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the field, teaming up with social networking start up True 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: So that's short for truly social. That's straight ahead on 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business of Sports Show. But first, let's look 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: at some of the top stories of the week. Oh 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: my goodness, gracious, congratulations, Lynchi. Major League Baseball, Boston Red 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Sox legend David Ortiz is heading the Cooper's Town. I'm 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: trying to reach David. This is David Ortiz. Hello, David, 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: this is Jack O'Connell with the Baseball Writers Association of Americans. 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm calling you from Cooperstown, New York. But you know 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: that the Baseball Writers have elected you to the National 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall. Un that's sorties getting the call, surrounded by 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: family and fellow Hall of Famer Pedro Martinez by his side. 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: I am gonna start with Lynch on this. Yeah, he's great. 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: He's one of the most popular figures in the history 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: of Boston sports, A big poppy David Ortiz, first time 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: eligible on the ballot. Um We're surrounded by Pedro march Tinas, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: one of his daughters, and his dad was sitting right 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: next to him, and that's where he wanted to be 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: with his dad. I was with David last week at 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: our function in Boston, and he said I'm going to 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: be with my dad, because my dad introduced me to 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the game of baseball. And when I was in the 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: Dominican my dad gave me some checklists. He said, try 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: to make it to the United States, try to make 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: a major League team, try to be a starter, try 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: to be an All Star, try to win a World Series, 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: he says. But my dad never said try to get 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. It was something I never 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: ever thought about. And he said, this would really be 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: something if I was in Cooper's town with all these 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: great heroes of the game, and now he's there, and 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: he couldn't be happier. And only one of the players 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: that get into the Hall of Fame David Ortiz, So 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: that's a big story, and who didn't get into the 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is probably his biggest story as well. Yes, 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens easily, some would argue the best 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: hitter and the best picture in history is certainly during 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: their era, falling way short on their final attempt to 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: be voted into the Hall of Fame. The people who 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: support them make the argument that even before the steroid era, 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: each of these players had Hall of Fame caliber, numbers, um, 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: but it's notable that unlike David Ortiz, who appeared to 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: be universally loved in Boston, is that fair to say 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Lynchy without questions? Okay, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds not necessarily 64 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: universally well liked players are beloved players. Well, one thing, 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: you remember, it takes of the Baseball writers assilization of 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: America to say, hey, you're in big Poppy got almost 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: seventy eight percent. Barry Bonds on his tenth and final 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: tribe by the Baseball writers, he got about sixty six percent, 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I believe, and then everyone else fell after that, and 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Sammy Sosa, oh my goodness, he only got eight teen 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: point five percent. And that's his last attempt at least 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: going through the writers. You know, there's the writers are 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: divided into two camps. There was three writers who vote 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: on this, and broadcasters have never been allowed. And that's 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: one of the unfair it is. And you're trying to 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: tell me that Vince Scully doesn't know as much about 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: the baseball game as any writer, that Bug Hostess doesn't 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: know as much, that Al Michaels doesn't know as much. 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: But that's the rules, and that's that's the way it's 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: it's been going for a long long time. But there's 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: some old school writers who a on principle alone, never 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: vote for anybody on their first ballot, William Mays and 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Hank arrand to not get in and somebody that writers 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: did not vote for them on their first uh first 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: time that they were on the ballot, just strictly on principle, 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: which is absolutely ludicrous. Yeah, I can go on about 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: what you said about big time announcers earning harwell, I mean, 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I can go on, Prince. Yeah, I don't. I don't 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: understand that. Well, they run the press boxes, and they 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: run the and they run the Hall of Fame. They 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: do a very nice job with it. But this is 92 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: going to open up a lot of scrutiny. Now there 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: could be an avenue for Bonds Clemens to get into 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. There's a new Era committee that's 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: going to meet in December, and it's comprised of members 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame, former players and some writers. 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: And if you get twelve out of sixteen votes in 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: this December coming up, it's December, eleven months from now, 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: they could possibly get into the Hall of Fame. So 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: it's not a done deal for these two, but they 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: are no longer on They are no longer on the belt. 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Remember I said, if the TV ratings this past weekend 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: weren't sky high, I was going to turn in my 104 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: Ry Rogers membership card. Well I'm keeping it because this 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: According to Nielsen, the epic football playoff game, especially between 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: Buffalo and Kansas City, reached nearly forty three million TV 107 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: viewers on Sunday. That's the most for any event since 108 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: last year's Super Bowl. And the NFL just struck gold 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: with just a great weekend. All four of those divisional games, 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: it averaged thirty eight point to TV and digital viewers 111 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: UMW pent over last year and the best ever for 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the league's divisional round of playoffs, according to the Nielsen 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Company's car I think the Kansas City UH Buffalo game 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: is the one that really takes the cake because in 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Kansas City, that game got share. So that means nine 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: out of every ten TVs in the Kansas City market 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: that we're on during that time, we're watching that game, 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: and you know they watched every minute of it because 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: that game was a nail biter. Oh yeah, that Bill's 120 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs game. In fact, when it got down into overtime, 121 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: there was fifty one point seven million people watching that. 122 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: It was absolutely spectacular. And and this is going to 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: have a fallover effect to this weekend with the championship 124 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: games on Sunday at three o'clock for the a f 125 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: C and six forty for the NFC game. People are 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, if that weekend was good, how can 127 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: they possibly top it this weekend, So people are gonna 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: be tuning in, and of course as we get down 129 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, that's when the audience absolutely swells 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: for football. Speaking of Sunday, the championship game for the 131 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: NFC between the Rams and the Well, the folks at 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: so Far they said, listen, you can only this is 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: how it started. You can only buyd tickets if you 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: have an l A zip code. Wells just win debo 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: on them. And they finally said, look that's okay, we 136 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: change your mind. Okay, it's it's open to anybody. Scar, 137 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how in the word you're gonna keep. 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: It's in the state of California, so you're gonna keep 139 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: forty Niners fans from so Far Stadium at most the 140 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: longest commute. It will be six hours from San fran 141 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. A team really can't control who tickets 142 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: are sold to, especially with secondary market places for tickets, right, 143 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it comes down to. But it 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: does speak to what happened at the end of the 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: regular season when so fi Um was overtaken by forty Plans. 146 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: When the forty Niners played the Rams, it seemed like 147 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: there was more red and gold in the stands and 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: there was what are the Rams colors? Purple and yellow 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and gold? Okay, sorry, oh okay, that makes sense, but 150 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it was notable because the home field advantage should be 151 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: your home field advantage, but not when the opposing team's 152 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: fans are all in the stands and making noise when 153 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: they should be quiet. They played, remember they played the 154 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: end of the regular season, and Matthew Stafford, the home quarterback, 155 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: had to go to a silent count because he couldn't 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: hear and none of his teammates could hear him barking 157 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the signals on a home game, home game. And we 158 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: gotta remember fans, they travel well, they do, they do, 159 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: and they're all over the place. I mean, wasn't there 160 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: no l a base football team for a number of years. 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: After the Raiders and Rams left for a number of years, 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the Rams went to St. Louis, the Raiders went back 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and forth to to Oakland, and there was not a 164 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: team there. So a lot of Southern California fans had 165 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: to adopt the team. Some adopted the Charges, many adopted 166 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: the San Francisco There you go. Plus this is a 167 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: spell over effect from the great baseball rival between the 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants and the Los Angeles Dodgers. So there's 169 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of it's a lot of city, 170 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot of civic pride here more than team pride. Now, 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Mrs Barr see, we got that story on because she 172 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: was mad as a hornets when I first came out. 173 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: She said, you better get this on, Like, okay, you 174 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: better not bother Mrs Barnes Sunday. Oh gosh, No, She's 175 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: got all the time she wants in the world. I'm 176 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna get that bean dip for you. Up next on 177 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: the show, we speak with five time All Provide receiver 178 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: and NFL Hall of Famer Terrell Owens. That's straight ahead 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Business of Sports. I'm Michael Barr you can 180 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at Big Bar Sports. I'm on 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Twitter at Scarlett Fool and I'm Mike Lynch. You can 182 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: follow me at Lynch w CBB. Young almost falls down, 183 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: throws to the end zone. God caught it. They caught it. 184 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: They caught it. Twenty five yard to eny caught the ball? 185 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: How he makes the winning touchdo catch? Hard off? And 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: that's not my wife, a die hard forty Niners fan 187 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: with that call. That's the forty Niners radio network for 188 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: that legendary NFC Wild Card come from behind victory against 189 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Just one moment in a career 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: full of highlights and records for the five time All 191 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Pro wide receiver NFL Hall of Famer Terrell Owen Oh 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: t O. Thank you so much for joining us and 193 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: and hoping that you're having a great day to day. 194 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. Anytime you can wake up, man, it's 195 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: it should be a great day, especially considering everything that 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: has going on in the world the last couple of years. Yeah, 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you're right through that. I'm going to dedicate this first 198 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: question to my wife, Mrs San Francisco forty er fan. 199 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: She said she wanted me to ask you what was 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: it like playing for the San Francisco forty man number one? 201 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I get it was. It was a blessing, especially uh 202 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: for a small town guy myself, and you know, a 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: kid that you know, I grew up where, you know, 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: played a number of sports and really wasn't you know, 205 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: Harold as uh a table as a five star four 206 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: or five star athlete coming out of a small town 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: and um going to a small school at uh you 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: teach at Nooga where I was really just blessed to 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: get in our coportunity to play football. And when I 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: left there, I I honestly, I didn't have any dreams 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: or aspirations thinking that I was uh gonna be playing 212 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: beyond the collegiate level. So uh, honestly, like I said, 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: to be drafted to the San Francisco forty and ninety 214 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: six and and and play, you know with the franchise 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: that uh, you know, six championships and and playing with 216 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: you know some of the you know, the great you 217 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: know that now who I have joined in the Hall 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: of Fame. We think of Jerry Rice and and Steve 219 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: Young and and so many other of my teammates. I mean, 220 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: it was it was true, truly truly, Uh, in honor 221 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: you know Martin Hanks, you know Tim McDonald, Leewood, all, um, 222 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: all these guys. I mean, I would have never imagined 223 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: in a million years that I would have set number 224 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: one played in the National Football League. But to accomplish 225 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the things the things that I did. You know, I'm 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna follow on that and we'll definitely get to the 227 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: business of sports and your business opportunities moments, Hurley. But 228 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Steve Young was on with us a few weeks ago 229 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: and he was talking about taking the mantle from possibly 230 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: the goat of quarterbacks, Joe Montana. You similarly came in 231 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: as an understudy to one of the goats to play 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: your position, Jerry Rice, who, by the way, was also 233 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: your favorite player growing up. So, Darrell, looking back, now, 234 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: what do you want people to understand about how you 235 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: took on that challenge and how it motivated you to 236 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: become the player that you became. Well, yeah, I mean 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, as I mentioned, Uh, you know, 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: one of them, he was one of my favorites. I 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: think when I grew up, I had a love and 240 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: a passion and still do today for basketball. Um, Michael 241 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Jordan was obviously like uh, you know every kids, you know, 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: idol at that time. I mean I wanted to be 243 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: like Mike, just like like every other kid, uh, you know, 244 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: on a basketball court somewhere. And for me, like I said, 245 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: just to have the opportunity to play with the San 246 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: Francisco for the Niners. And Jerry Rice you mentioned, I 247 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: considered him the greatest of all time. And um, you know, 248 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you you think about the things that he accomplished. UM me, 249 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: I think the thing that about both of us. We 250 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: had that drive, um, that willingness to do whatever it 251 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: took to to to be better and get better. And 252 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: I always talk about, you know, my three pillars of success. 253 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Um this is and I thought of these three pillars, 254 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: you know, back in ten when I first was nominated 255 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. Um, because I had no idea, 256 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, really kind of what that what that was. 257 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,479 Speaker 1: And I and I went back to um my, my 258 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: my condo, and I and I started seeing all the 259 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: highlights and you know, everything that I had done, you know, 260 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: in my fifteen year career. And I'm like, man, how 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: did I get here? A small kid from Alexander City, Alabama. 262 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: And I thought about my three DS and Um. The 263 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: first one is desired, and the other one is dedication, 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: and the last one is disciplined. Um. When you think 265 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: about and you put all those things together, UM, that's 266 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: what it takes you know, to uh, to be successful 267 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: into in life and and for me at that time 268 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: to be the receiver that I became. And so those 269 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: three ds are applicable to any and everything, um that 270 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: I've done, um since then, and even when I speak 271 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: to businesses or you know, I'm on conference calls or 272 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: zooms or even you know high school kids that have 273 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: watched watching me play and uh you know college kids 274 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: or what have you. Um, I truly UM really emphasize 275 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: that if you have a desire to be or do 276 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: anything in life, those other two ds are very vital 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: and an integral part of of you becoming who you 278 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: are and what you want to be. And you have 279 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: to dedicate yourself and discipline that really literally that's the 280 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: bridge of you know, when you're talking sports, Uh, if 281 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: you're an athlete, you know, with you know, if your 282 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: your skill set isn't where it needs to be at 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: at where you are at that point, discipline is the 284 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: bridge you know, from from going and being good to 285 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: to ultimately being great at whatever it is that you're 286 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to to to be or accomplished as your profession. Hey, 287 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: t O, it's Michaelinch up in Boston. I'll continue with 288 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the football theme here. We'll get the business a little 289 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: bit later in the conversation. But when Antonio Brown walked 290 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: off the field, uh, down at the MetLife Stadium, you 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: came out and said, at forty years old, the Bucks 292 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: should sign you. And that also an NFL owner had 293 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: told you to be ready in case they needed you 294 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: this year. Are you serious about both of those? Um? Yeah, 295 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean that that honestly truly happened. Um. I think 296 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: anybody that knows me a much gonna just make up 297 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: some fairy tale or something else about you know, things 298 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: that that that that I may encounter. Um. And at 299 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: this point in time, like, yeah, things happened, you know 300 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: throughout the summer. My daughter's plays club volleyball, um kylie, 301 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I was in Vegas, you know, at 302 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: a restaurant and that owner just happened to be in there, 303 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: and I've met him before, and so he looked at 304 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: me and head man, you look like you're in shape 305 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: and so we had that conversation. UM. You know. UM 306 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: he basically said, okay, well let me talk to the coach. 307 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Let me talk to the the GM about it. UM. The 308 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: next day, I'm getting ready to go to my my 309 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: daughter's volleyball UM. Next morning her her volleyball matches, and 310 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I missed a call and I called the coach back 311 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and I talked to him about it. He was like, well, 312 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? And I was like, yo, 313 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: I can still play, um, as as the owner mentioned. 314 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: And so I had a couple of conversations and conversations 315 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: with the GM, the coach at that time. And uh, 316 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I said, from that point on, throughout the summer, UM, 317 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I started training, you know a little bit more than 318 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, than I usually do. And so these opportunities 319 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: came about. UM. Like I said, for that team, it 320 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: didn't happen. UM, but you know things, you know, throughout 321 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: the course of the season, injuries happened. UM. And unfortunately 322 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: for for the Buccaneers, they lost Chris Goddi to an 323 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: a c L injury. UM. And then I'm like, okay, cool, 324 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, they're they're down one of their 325 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: main stars. UM. And then UH, some weeks later, a 326 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: week and so later then uh, Antonio Brown's incident the 327 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: count happened, and I'm like, man, this is probably like 328 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: the most perfect opportunity for me, uh to Obviously, you know, 329 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to play if they saw fit 330 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: to bring me in. Um. So other than that, man, 331 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: like I said, Uh, if the situations uh and the 332 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: opportunity aligned and they brought me into that, I brought 333 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: me into play, then I feel like with what I 334 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: had done throughout the course of the summer, um, I 335 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: would be able to come in and play not fifties 336 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: sixty seventies nows, but you think about third third down situations, 337 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: direct zone and and sometimes experience sometimes be talent, and 338 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: with my knowledge of the game, that's where I would 339 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: be obviously a big fit and advantageous to to an organization. 340 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: Let's continue our conversation now with five time all pro 341 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver in NFL Hall of Famer tarret Onins and 342 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: his business venture. And it's called true So, which is 343 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: short for truly Social. Now you gotta tell us about 344 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: this video based social networking app. Sir. Oh yeah, so, 345 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, uh, it means truly social and truss. 346 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: It's like a it's a real video and audio social 347 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: app that brings real people together, you know, for real 348 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: time you know, conversations and uh you know, it's it's 349 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: different from other social uh network uh networking platforms like 350 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: like Clubhouse and others that are on the market. And 351 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: so for this, I mean you can drop in and 352 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: and and on one of the video communities and you 353 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: can talk you know, business gym's faith, uh you know, 354 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: health wellness, wellness tips and a lot more. And uh 355 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: we recognize that you know, a lot of these social 356 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: media apps are dominated by uh several players who offer 357 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: great products and services and things of that nature. Um, 358 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: but I honestly, I don't feel like they compared to 359 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: what we try to aim to accomplish with with the 360 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Truth's trusso to to solve some of those things. And 361 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: so for me, for us, do we have this this 362 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: motto uh for us by us? And what I mean 363 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: by that, you know, it's a black owned company created 364 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: by you know, some of the top you know, black 365 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: creative innovative minds, and so uh we realized that some 366 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, really sometimes a lot of the black voices 367 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: are being muted on some of these mainstream social media platforms. 368 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: So you know, we're we're I am We're excited about 369 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: um where this is gonna where this is gonna go. 370 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm interested in hearing about how you came across this opportunity. 371 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: How are um these opportunities to invest in and become 372 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: kind of the face of an enterprise. How are they 373 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: presented to you or do you go out and seek 374 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: them out. I'm just wondering about your screening process or 375 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: filtering process. Well, I think you know, just at the 376 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: start of the show, we talked about it, you know, 377 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: you the acculation things that you mentioned. Me being a 378 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer plan for you know, the San Francisco 379 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: forty nine is me establishing, you know, somewhat of a 380 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: brand for myself. When I played, UM, people got to 381 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: know uh Tarall Orange, the football player. They got to 382 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: know t O the name that everybody knows. And I 383 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: think you know the things that that that that the 384 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: game of football has afforded me to do. Um, you know, 385 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: my name is out there and uh fortunate fortunately I've 386 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: run into a friend of mine and honestly, I had 387 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: no idea years later that we would be doing a 388 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: business venture together and so we've remained friends or what 389 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: have you. Um, everybody knows on social media active media 390 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: active and kareem grinds who plays preach on All American UM, 391 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: that's that's add on the CN network. UM. He reached 392 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: out to me, and everybody follows me or whatever, they 393 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: know that I'm charismatic. He knows me on and off 394 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: the field. And there's there's two different people. I'm one 395 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: way very competitive on the field, I'm pretty chilled and 396 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: laid back. And those are some of the things that 397 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: he remembers and and people follow me on on my 398 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: social media uh platforms, and so he reached out to 399 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: me about the opportunity. And I have a business manager 400 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: that when this things like this come across uh you 401 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: know my my desk or would have you, Um, I 402 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: run it by them, and you know, I've I've run 403 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: into some pitfalls of of of of of businesses and 404 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: things of that nature. And so I ran it by 405 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: one of my uh my business consultants and got got 406 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: them on the line, uh with the people at hand 407 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: on the side of Trousseau, and he was very encouraged 408 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: about it. We had several you know, meetings about it. 409 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: We did a beta you know, meeting our test with 410 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, some of the software and innovative things and 411 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: talked about where this is gonna go where it is now, 412 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: and those are the type of opportunities that come across us. Um. 413 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: You know that I come across because of who I 414 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: am and what I've done and so um, like I said, 415 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm very truly blessed to have done the things that 416 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: I did on the football field because it has open force. Right. 417 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: Just just a quick follow up though, out of ten 418 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: offers that come to you, how many do you say 419 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: yes to? Um? It just depends, it depends on if 420 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: it if it makes sense or not, you know. Um, 421 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, obviously for me, if it aligns with you know, 422 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: who I am, UM, what I'm trying to accomplish, and 423 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: and if it aligns with you know, my brand, you know, 424 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: back to truth. So tell me how people can monetize 425 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: and profit from from this social media platform. Well, that's 426 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: a good question, um It. Monetization is possible, but it 427 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: requires a combined minimum number of viewers and followers, which 428 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: utterly only benefits a small group of a group of people. Um. 429 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's uh, you know, a crowdfunding, uh element 430 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: uh to what we're doing, and people can invest. Um. 431 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: They can go to uh the site of www dot 432 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: start Engine dot com forward slash true so um to 433 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: get a lot more information about that. UM. But yeah, 434 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: we have, you know, opportunities for people that that want 435 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: to uh get involved, get involved early. UM. You know, uh, 436 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: we're allowing others to take advantage of of a promising startup. UM. 437 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: It's like you know, and imagine if you would have 438 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: had an opportunity, um as a non credited investor to 439 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: invest in Facebook or or Amazon or Young. Um the 440 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Jobs Act you know had had made it possible for 441 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: those uh not in the one percent, um, the non 442 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: credited investors. UM, we encourage them, you know obviously to 443 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: really go to the site, review the campaign and join 444 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: the waitlist of beder testers and so to do that, 445 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: you can go to uh www uh dot John dot 446 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: joined Trousseau dot com. T O. You know, we can't 447 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: let you get out of here without asking about this 448 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: big NFC title game between the forty niners and the Rams. 449 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: Please give me a prediction, of course, of course not obviously. 450 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: I mean I I have to I have to go 451 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: with and ride with the team that gave me an 452 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to to to play the game that so many 453 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: people love. And UM, honestly, this this game sometimes is 454 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: based on momentum. And as we've seen, UM, you know, 455 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: we've seen some teams upset UM over the last few weekends. 456 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: And you know, with the Niners, they they've been playing, 457 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, at a high level. UM, they've hit a 458 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: streak and sometimes the game this is, like said, based 459 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: on momentum, and they've been playing very good football. UM. 460 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the makeup of of 461 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: their team defensively, UM, offensively, UM, and every phase of 462 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: the game included special teams UH, which which came up 463 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: came up huge against the Green Bay Packers, UM when 464 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: they blocked up blocked the field goal and a punt. 465 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: And so you think about the the individual plays of 466 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: of of certain guys on on both sides of the ball, 467 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: and you think about the play I'm talking about mainly 468 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: of Deebo Samuel UM. This guy has really, honestly, he's 469 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: been the m v P of the team, especially the 470 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: last four or five games of the regular season and 471 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: into these playoffs. UM, he's he's their X factor. I mean, 472 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: he's doing everything uh, you know obviously to to to 473 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: to keep the game exciting what he's doing out of 474 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: the backfield and as a receiver. Um. Again, I'm looking 475 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: for really this this for this trend, this momentum to 476 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: to to continue against the Los Angeles Rams although they're 477 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: playing well um and they have a stout defensive front 478 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: led by Aaron Donald um and and with the addition 479 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: of Von Miller um and and and and the great 480 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: play of j Jalen Ramsay and the secondary um, it's 481 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a great game. And they have Matthew Stafford, 482 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: they have Cooper Cup who's catching a thousand passes and 483 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: you know, over ten thousand yards it seems like in 484 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: one in one season. And with the addition of O 485 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: b j. Uh, he's been a great addition to uh 486 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: to their team and he started to jail and really 487 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: become the O B J that we've known over the years. Um. 488 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a great game NFC matchup, and 489 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking honestly for the Niners to pull it out. 490 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, the divisional playoffs were incredible and we were 491 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: talking about the ratings just how uh it's been the 492 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: most ever for a divisional round. The game has never 493 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: been more popular, but from NFL ratings have actually been 494 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: kind of struggling, at least for the NFL. What do 495 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: you think has changed about the sport? I mean a 496 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of it comes back to people were saying, oh, 497 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: during those four or five years, people were distracted by politics, 498 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: by the election, um, by racial justice issues coming up 499 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: in NFL games, and politicians politicizing all of that. What's 500 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: changed in the past year that's brought the NFL back 501 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: to being the one event that people will gather to 502 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: watch life. Man. I think what has happened over the 503 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: last couple of weekends with these great games, uh, I 504 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: think you know, you think about you know, uh the 505 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: game with you know Tampa Bay and uh them playing 506 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: and and and almost coming back, you know, um and 507 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: and with the Rams and what Tom Brady has done. 508 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: You think about the game the Buffalo Bills came in, 509 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, games like that, that just I mean, 510 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: the exciting games like that. That's what has brought uh, 511 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the excitement back. And I think it's gonna be here. 512 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be back, you know, to to stay 513 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: uh for some time there. I think everybody's gonna be 514 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: tuned in and glued to the TV because there's been 515 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: some upsets. I mean a lot of people that are 516 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs that we expected to be here 517 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: at the end are gone now, you know, namely uh 518 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Tom Brady UM and Aaron Rodgers UM. I think you 519 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: know whomever had brackets or you know, their money banked 520 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: on those guys obviously playing in the NFC Championship or 521 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: one of those making to the Super Bowl, they're crushed. Uh. 522 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: And it's great for other other teams as well, and opportunities, 523 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: uh for for a lot of other players to to 524 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: really reach their goal of of of holding that Lombardi 525 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: Trophy and Cities winning, you know, a championship. So I 526 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: think just the exciting play of the last over the 527 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: last couple of weekends, I think that has brought the 528 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: excitement back, uh to football because I mean watching those 529 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: games and honestly, I I was I felt nervous probably 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: the first time since I played why watching those games 531 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: because it was just so such great football being played, 532 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: especially by you know, Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, UM, 533 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I mean I played under and you Reid. 534 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: We went to the Super Bowl and just I was 535 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: nervous for him. I was watching this game. I think 536 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: everybody was sitting, you know, sitting on their hands, and 537 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: it's like really sitting like on pins and needles of 538 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: what is gonna happen? What's the outcome those I mean, 539 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: just the the Dallas Cowboys in that game and how 540 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: it unfolded. And then seeing how you know, with the 541 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: same amount of our second less um that that that 542 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes you had to drive the almost the length 543 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: of the field just to tie the ball game and 544 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: then they go into overtime. It's just it was just 545 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: so much suspense, you know, Like I said, I knew 546 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: what it felt like, honestly to be a fan um 547 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: at that given time, watching watching those great games. Well, 548 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: now you can only give me one answer here. You 549 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: would come back and years old and you have to 550 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: pick one quarterback Brady Rogers, Mahomes, Borrow, Josh Allen Stafford, 551 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, one quarterback man that you can't say, well, 552 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: so I don't want to. Yeah, he's good, he's good. 553 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: I want one answer, one answer. Oh my gosh, Oh, 554 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna honestly, I'm going to have to go with Imbou. 555 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: To go with Aaron Rodgers, you don't have to go 556 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: really yeah. And the reason that I say that is 557 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: because of the way that I know and my knowledge 558 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: of the game. Just on any one given play, it 559 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: may not be perfect, but if I had someone to 560 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: if that play broke down, and a quarterback of that 561 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: can compliment my game and I know what he can 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: do and he can get outside of that pocket and 563 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: make things happened with his feet, it's Aaron Rodgers. Okay, 564 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: what if it was fourth quarter skons left? Oh that 565 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Oh you're a sneaky and oh man, I mean in 566 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: that case, I have to go with the guy that 567 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: that that did it, and that's that. That would be 568 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. But he's so similar, he's so eerily similar, 569 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, to to Aaron Rodgers. And in what he 570 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: can do, they both, like said, are very their their 571 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: dual threats. They're very uh you know, cerebral, and they 572 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: can extend plays and so obviously like you said, to 573 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: to be in the West Coast offering offense, um, when 574 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: when I was you know, really being uh just groom 575 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: to to be the receiver that I that I that 576 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: I was and became we had something what we call 577 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the the scramble drill, and so that's you know, if 578 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: a play breaks down and the quarterback gets out of 579 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: the pocket, wherever you are on the field, you have 580 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: to be in relationship with that quarterback. We had certain 581 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: routes of things that we had to do, and so 582 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: I realized that and I understood that once I got 583 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: the concept um and so that was really I said, 584 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I benefited, you know from that scramble drill because wherever 585 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback was, I had to get into his vision 586 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: because he had to get rid of that ball because 587 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: he had, you know, defenders breathing down his neck. And 588 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: so uh, that's where I felt like I was advantageous. 589 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I chose Aaron Rodgers because you know, 590 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: you think about those two that I mentioned, Patrick Mahomes 591 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: and Aaron there, they're they're very similar and what they 592 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: can do once they get outside of the pocket to 593 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: extend place, let alone what they can do standing in 594 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: the pocket with with a lot of time. I have 595 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: to ask you about today's NFL compared to when you 596 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: first got in the NFL. From a business standpoint, one 597 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: thing that has changed is that college athletes now trying 598 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: getting into the NFL. They have the name, image and 599 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: likeness that's going for him and they can profit from. 600 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: Steve Young was on our show, UH several weeks back, 601 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: and he had this to say about that issue. You know, 602 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: you don't have five bucks for pizza as a student, 603 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're battling for thousands, if 604 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: not tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars and you're 605 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: seeing other guys getting it. A lot of colleges are 606 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make it more egalitarian 607 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: and kind of take the N I L for the 608 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, for the team. Football is not gonna work 609 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: like that. That's the hard part is that when when 610 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: somebody in football is making lots of money and run 611 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: around campus and somebody is not, It's just it adds 612 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: complexity to an already tough situation. T Oh, can you 613 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: imagine if you had N I L when you were 614 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: in college? Um? I can. But I think I was 615 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: still be in the same boat because I wasn't. I 616 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that good. I'm just being honest, though, I Mean, 617 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't see how it would have benefited me. At 618 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: all because like I was a late bloomer, so my 619 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: skill set and what everybody got to see on Sundays, UM, 620 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody saw that, you know, I saw 621 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: those things happening. UM, But I do understand, you know, uh, 622 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: really what Steve Young was, you know, explaining and sharing 623 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: uh with you guys, because again, you know, you have 624 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, so many you know, at every university, you 625 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: have your top your star athletes, and most of those 626 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: are your four or five star athletes coming out of 627 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: high school and and obviously with a promising career obviously 628 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: to extend that and and and obviously to enhance on that, 629 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, at the collegiate level. UM. And I think 630 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'll use an example because I was I'm 631 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: born and raised in Alabama, and so just think about Alabama, 632 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: University of Alabama, who who has won a number of 633 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: SEC championships, national championships, um, in general, and you think 634 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: about the just the top guys, you know, especially it's 635 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: usually the quarterback, one or two guys on offense, and 636 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: you think about one or two guys you know sometimes 637 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: on defense. And so for Alabama you have those those 638 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: those those standouts, those stars and Uh, they're using you know, 639 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: their number to to to entice and promote and brand 640 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: uh you know Alabama football. And just think about the 641 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: millions and billions of dollars over the years, uh that 642 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: they've generated using not their name but their number. And 643 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: if they use their name to um in certain promotions 644 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: and you got boosters, you know, raising money uh you know, 645 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, funding for for the university, and those kids 646 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: got to see probably a lot of fraction of that money. UM. 647 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: But with with Alabama, I mean the facility, I've been 648 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: down there. The facilities are beyond what I could have 649 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: ever imagined that facility, Uh, the structure of it, UM, 650 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: the coach, they're doing things far greater and better than 651 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: some some NFL franchises. So UM, I whole hardly agree that, 652 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, uh, when there's such a disparity, you know, 653 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: with that it brings it's it's so complicated, there's a 654 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: complex city to it. So I'm all in favor for 655 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: n I l uh. It gives these kids an opportunity. Uh, 656 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, everybody's not going to make it to 657 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: the National Football League, UM where they can make you know, 658 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. And while you're in college and you're 659 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: able to to to make to make money because essentially 660 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: you're you're you're working, you're working, you know, in in 661 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: in a sense for for a living while you're in 662 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: college and you're not able to capitalize or monetize. And 663 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: you see certain guys you know, driving around in nice 664 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: cars or whatever the case may be. UM. Now everybody 665 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: from you know, the the last guy on on the team, 666 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: UM can can can benefit UM if they have a 667 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: business sense of the n I l uh infrastructure. UM. 668 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Now that they have, I I love it. Tel. Let 669 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: me ask you about coming out of college, like every 670 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: other college graduate, coming to the NFL, all of a sudden, 671 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: is all kinds of money being thrown at you, and 672 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: you all of a sudden you gotta do it with 673 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: rent or mortgage, utilities, credit cards, by an automobile, show 674 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: up at practice. I'm involved with the thing in Massachusetts 675 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: called financial literacy, where we're going into high schools and 676 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: teaching these kids how to deal with this. What would 677 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: you say the preparation level is for the average college 678 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: graduate coming to the National Football League is prepared for this. 679 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: They financially literate. UM. Well, that's a good question, UM 680 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: that that they definitely aren't prepared. And I think that's 681 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: something UM that a lot of these UH colleges and 682 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: universities should really prioritize, especially when there's been so many examples, 683 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: including myself, where you know, athletes have been taken advantage 684 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: of by agents uh financial advisors. UH. Because coming out 685 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: of college, if you're not you know, if you're not 686 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: in a family or household UH where you're around and 687 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: you're being taught, um, everything that there is to know 688 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: about business or anything related to finance, then you don't know. 689 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: And if you're going to see if you're not going 690 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to school for uh that particular study or you know, 691 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: uh as an undergraduate or whatever the case may be, 692 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: these are things that you don't know. You're just you're 693 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna learn on the fly. And so I have a 694 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: podcast and we have guys that come on and UH 695 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: these are things that we talk about. And they're young 696 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: guys now that realize and have seen the pitfalls of 697 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: of of of athletes of across the across the board, 698 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: you know, from baseball, basketball, or whatever the case may bay, 699 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: football and an athletes that they personally know, UM and 700 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: they want to change that and so they're they're they're 701 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: they're creating and and and coming up with with you know, uh, 702 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: these these opportunities to educate not only themselves but others 703 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: on how to avoid uh, these pitfalls. And I think 704 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: it's a it's a great thing. And uh sometimes your 705 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: your best teacher, teachers of of of of avoiding certain 706 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: things is experiences and so and and and and Unfortunately, 707 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, it comes at a great cost, you know, 708 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: for some people. And I am one of those. And 709 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm an advocate of of really spreading the 710 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: word of really trying to really change that narrative of 711 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: what we're talking about when it comes to these kids, 712 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, not being able to when they leave u 713 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: going into college, leaving high school, of learning about what 714 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: it is to to to to be in the business 715 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: world and understand what it's like to to write or 716 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: check understanding you know, stocks and assets and and all 717 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: these things that are related to finance, because you know, 718 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: you never know, I had no idea that you know, 719 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: you're you're you're an adult, but you don't know these 720 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: things until you've reached the adult world. And when you 721 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: don't have your mom or dad to do the things 722 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: that you know, you that they've been doing for so 723 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: many years for you, and you have to do it 724 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: on your own. Uh, it's a. It's a. It's sometimes 725 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: it's a rude of five time all Pro wide receiver 726 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: in NFL Hall of Famer Tarrell Owens into his latest 727 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: business venture, trus So. It's a video based social networking 728 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: app te O. Thank you man for joining us. We 729 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: we are so appreciative you took time out of your 730 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: busy day and just to sit down and talk with us. 731 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir oh Man. Thank you guys so much, appreciate, 732 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Wow, Scarlett, I always get excited 733 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: when when we have just Hall of famers from the NFL, 734 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: UH and TiO. Obviously no exception, scar He's a legend 735 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: in your household. He's a legend in my household. Seeing 736 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: as we are uh married to die hard forty Niners fans. 737 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting to see how excited he is still to 738 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: talk about the sport itself, and how engaged he is 739 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: and how passionate he is about it. Since it's always yeah, 740 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean because obviously you're from the big Boston area 741 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: and and well known there, so you're a New England 742 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: Patriots guy, but it's still got to be a thrill 743 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: when you when you get to talk to him. Well, 744 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: they were the model in the eighties and the nineties, 745 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,959 Speaker 1: the forty Niners winning all those Super Bowls and which 746 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: every team tried to emulate, and eventually the Patriots sort 747 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: of matched and succeeded and exceeded what the forty Niners 748 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: had pulled off. One of my big takeaways from there, 749 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: I asked him which quarterback if he came back right 750 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: now at eight and I was expecting Tom Brady. So 751 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: he picked Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, that was very surprising 752 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: to me. He didn't pick one of the young guns. 753 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: He picked up He picked out the seconds left. But yeah, 754 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: fascinating conversation. And you know one of those guys that 755 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: just you know, grew up in a small town in 756 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: Alabama and got an opportunity in the National Football League. 757 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: And it's very flamboyant and very stylish, but he was 758 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: productive and that's why he's in the Hall of Fame's 759 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: not in the Hall of Fame because of some of 760 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: his shenanigans and antics. He's there because he was a 761 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: football player. And now you know, he's become you know, 762 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: the rule rather than the exception. He's interested in business. 763 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: He runs all those You had a great question to 764 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: the Scarlett of of ten opportunities to come along, how 765 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: many would he take? And he's talked about the filter 766 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: process that he that he goes through. Yeah, I mean 767 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: with true So I mean he's into that with the 768 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: the video based social networking app and uh and he's 769 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: got some solid partners behind him. And it's always great 770 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: when when I see smart people, uh, you know, from 771 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: the National Football League or MLB or whatever, any sports 772 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: figure and and they channel that into a very smart 773 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: business venture. I always like to see that mondros Wick 774 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: that's kids feels better to be than one than number five. 775 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll wear a number because of Mike. We have a 776 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: chance to go for three and a row good numbers 777 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: at a good time. When I first started wearing the number, 778 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: how we just have the im proud Bloomberg business of sports. 779 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: The number of the week now here we came and 780 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, it's time we have a 781 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: theme now for the number of the week. All right 782 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: here we goduction is that the game? Uh, yes, you 783 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: know what it is? Herb Alpert's Spanish Fleet, which they 784 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: played on the Dating Game all the time. I love 785 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: that song. Uh. We have two games. We have the 786 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: a f C Championship Game, in the NFC Championship Game. 787 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: In the a f C Championship Game, we have Cincinnati 788 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: against Kansas City and Joe Burrow obviously quarterback for the Bengals. Uh, 789 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there now. He signed a four year contract. 790 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: What I want to know is how much is that contract? 791 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: When did you sign this? Lets I believe you make 792 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: sure rink? Yeah, think I know this one. Well, I'm 793 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna let Lynch you go first. Then I'm gonna say 794 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: the whole package, right, Michael Barr, Yes, I think it's 795 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: pretty much standard for I want to go thirty six million, sci, 796 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say thirty six point five million. Oh danks, Scarlett. 797 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: If you would have just said thirty six point one, 798 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: you would have won the game. It's thirty six millions. 799 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: I knew Lynch was going to be pretty much on 800 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: the on the ball on thirty seven dollars. And that 801 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: includes a twenty three point eight million dollars signing bonus. 802 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: H and it's it's gonna be a great weekend folks 803 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: to just turl back any blowout scores if it's going 804 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: to happen, I bet I better not say what I 805 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: was gonna say, so I don't want to get in 806 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: trouble because my wife does listen to this game. If 807 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: it happens, it depends on how the forty Niners get started. Okay, 808 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: how about this. Are we going to get any low 809 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: scoring games? Uh? Not with Kansas City, Not with the 810 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Kansas Yeah, that one is guaranteed to be. Yeah. I 811 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: mean the Niners don't have a great offense, but the 812 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Niners have beat the Ramps the last six times they played. 813 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: They get that going for Well, they're playing in their 814 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: second home stadium. Yeah, and so fine. This is the 815 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports show. We are here each and 816 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: every week at the same time, plus online wherever you 817 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: get your podcast. You can catch those Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. 818 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr on Twitter in Big Bar Sports. I'm 819 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: Scarlett Fu. I almost one number of the week. I 820 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: was off by about four, but you know we'll get there. 821 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm at Scarlett, can't wait for next week for the rematch. 822 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Lynch at Lynch e w CBP. I hope 823 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: you like our theme gang. Thanks for joining us. Tune 824 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: in again next week for the latest on the stories 825 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: moving big money in the world of sports. You're listening 826 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio around the world.