1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The second hour of Clay and Buck 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: is underway right now. My friends and we had we 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: had talked a little bit at the top of the 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: show about this that in Oklahoma right now, there is 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: a bit of a kerfuffle. There is a protest that 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: has been underway where they seized the state capital. And 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: this is all because of a transgender law, of transgender 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: laws that have not been signed yet as I understand it, 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: but there are issues issues around it. People are upset 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: about it, and we wanted to talk to you about 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: what exactly is going on here. So it's called Senate 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Bill one two nine and well before actually before we 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: get into exactly what's in all these bills, Clay last 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: we had had checked in on this. They had stormed 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: the stormed the capitol and there was a trans Lives 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Matter group, Translives Matter, which I had never heard of 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: this before. I think it's interesting because Blue Lives Matter 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: got so much anger from the left. How dare you appropriate? 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: How dare you appropriate the oppression? All Lives Matter? So 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: much criticism? Um so, but Translives Matter is apparently okay 22 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: for the left, which is so it's so interesting to 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: see is see how this, how this goes um and 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: there there here we actually have some audio here they 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: are chanting just in kise you're wondering translives matter, play 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: it right. So's they're very clear about what they're there 27 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: to do and who they are. So there are about 28 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: over a hundred of them from Oklahoma, Oklahomans for Equality 29 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: and Freedom. Fascinating the way they name these groups, isn't it. 30 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: They were outside the Capitol, they made their way into 31 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: the rotunda. The protesters were calling on lawmakers to vote 32 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: against variety of bills that would have prohibited gender reassignment 33 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: surgery or hormone therapy for those under the age of eighteen, 34 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: specifically the Senate Bill one two nine, which is being 35 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: called the Millstone Act, that would ban treatment for people 36 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: under twenty six years of age by punishing the doctor 37 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: so effectively, Clay, if you're a doctor and you do 38 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: a transsurgery for people under the age of twenty six, 39 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: you can lose your license and even be criminally prosecuted. 40 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: So there are a few different a few different bills 41 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that are all at issue here. Like I said, there's 42 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: the Millstone Bill. There's also a bill, the less restrictive 43 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: House Bill one oh one now that would stop doctors 44 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: from giving a referral for puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, 45 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: and gender reassignment surgery for anyone under twenty one. And 46 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: then there's Senate Bill two five two, which would prohibit 47 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: anyone under the age of eighteen from receiving gender reassignment surgery. 48 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: And then Senate Bill to fifty would prohibit medical officials 49 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: and entities from receiving reimbursement from Medicaid if they do 50 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: gender transition services. So there's a whole variety of stopping 51 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: gender transition surgeries within certain age ranges. In Oklahoma. I 52 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: think that I think the governor stip we're going to 53 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: have them all next hour. I think that they should 54 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: continue through with this. I think the notion that anybody 55 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: under eighteen should have any of this done is barbaric 56 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: and crazy. Yeah, I think the under eighteen is a 57 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: really easy argument. I don't know what the wall will 58 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: ask the governor. I'm not sure what the wall is on, 59 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: for instance, tattoos in Oklahoma, but there are many different 60 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: states out there where you cannot legally as a minor 61 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: get a tattoo, And I think that's always good to 62 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: focus on because let's take it outside the transgender issue 63 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: for a moment. Why would you have that rule on 64 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: tattoos for people under eighteen? Because for everybody out there 65 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: listening right now, if you allowed a fourteen or fifteen 66 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: year old to legally get a tattoo, you might well 67 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: end up with a tattoo that looks really ridiculous when 68 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: you're twenty two or thirty two or forty two, Like 69 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem crazy to me at all to believe 70 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: that that is a law that makes total sense that 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, you may not like the barbed wire tattoo 72 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: that you're sixteen year old got on his biceps, but 73 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: by and large that isn't going to remember when the 74 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: barbedwire tattoos? Has anyone gotten a barbed wire tattooed on 75 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: the biceps since nineteen ninety four? Clay all right, in 76 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, that's my point. Nineteen ninety four you 77 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: got the ba barb wire tattoo. You were a badass. 78 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: By two thousand and four, you were like, why did 79 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I ever think getting a barbed wire tattoo on my 80 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: bicep was cool. Everybody's like, why do you think you're 81 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: an in sync? Yeah, that's true, and so people make 82 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: bad decisions with tattoos. But in the grand scheme of things, 83 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you can get a tattoo removal. I think, like all 84 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: those things if we're as a reason society out there 85 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: of the opinion, Oh, we gotta keep tattoos away from 86 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: kids under eighteen. We gotta keep beer away from kids 87 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: under twenty one. We gotta keep rental cars, which to 88 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: me is still pretty crazy. A lot of you out there, 89 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: remember you couldn't rent a car in college. You gotta 90 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 1: keep rental cars away from kids until they're like twenty five. 91 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: How in the world does it make sense to allow 92 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: someone to get their breast removed at fifteen? That's child abuse? Like, 93 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't even understand how this is remotely controversial. And 94 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: this is where this moved very quickly, Buck from we're 95 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: trans and we just want the right to live our 96 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: lives as we are. Two. If you don't agree with 97 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: a six year old's ability to choose their own gender, 98 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: then you're barbaric transphobe. I mean, Buck, I had a 99 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: friend talked about this I think on the show before, 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: and I bet there are people out there listening to 101 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: us right now, especially if you're in New York or LA, 102 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: or you're in a big city, a left wing location. 103 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: There are regular emails that go out where they say, hey, 104 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: so and so is six years old, and she now 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: identifies as a boy, or she dialed identifies as gender 106 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: non binary, and so we're going to take it seriously. 107 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: And my wife we had this conversation, and I think 108 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: it's perfect for anybody out there. As a parent. We 109 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: don't let our six year olds choose what they eat 110 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: because we don't think that they have the mental you 111 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: know wherewithal Because a six year old would say I 112 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: want cake or I want ice cream for every meal, 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Say no, you know, if you're gonna have a cookie, 114 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: you've got to eat your broccoli or whatever it is beforehand. 115 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: That's what parenting is Parenting now in some of these 116 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: communities and in some of these schools, and this is 117 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: happening increasingly in elite, high end private schools is where 118 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: this is taken off. You're gonna threat a six year 119 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: old like they can choose their gender. I mean, this 120 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: is madness. I also want everyone to know that while 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: this is playing out in Oklahoma, the issue of transgenderism 122 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: for children for minors has for one exploded by the numbers. 123 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: And anyone who is looking at the data honestly will say, 124 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: this is something that is more a fad than a 125 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: scientific reality. That's just this is clear. There's there's a 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: rapid onset. Gender dysphoria was the term coined by the 127 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: Brown University study that looked at, hey, what happens when 128 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: a seven year old says I think you know, a 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: seven year old boy says I think I'm a girl. Oh, 130 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: all the adults gather around, they make a big deal 131 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and oh, what can we do for you? And what 132 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: are the other seven year old sink? Who are? You know, 133 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: maybe at a point where they're a little unsure of 134 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: themselves that they're seven, they're kids, they don't know anything. 135 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: They go, well, if I say I'm a girl too, 136 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: then everyone's gonna oh, what can we do to cater 137 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: to you and make sure that you're happy? And oh, 138 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: you're so brave, You're so brave. This is the stuff. 139 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: And they can show this through the data that the 140 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: chance of another kid in the class, all of a sudden. 141 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Now I know the activist they thoughts because they're just 142 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: finally willing to speak out that they're trans too. They're 143 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: seven years old. They probably thought they were a platypus 144 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: the month before. It's absurd. We all recognize this is absurd. 145 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: The Biden White House, meanwhile, we remember this. This is 146 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: just back a few months ago. This was about a 147 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: year ago. March of twenty twenty two, they put out 148 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: the Equality and Visibility for Transgender Americans Statements, specifically specifically 149 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: singling out how we need to make sure that transgender kids. 150 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: Children are a focus of this effort. And you know 151 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: they're talking about reinforcing protection for transgender kids and including 152 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: this is the key part gender affirming care. So while 153 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: you know the left wing activists and everything, you can 154 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: see that, you know, the crazy blue haired, nose ring 155 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: maniacs running around shrieking translives matter. You know they're doing that. Clay, 156 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: everything needs to understand Biden White House is totally on 157 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: board for this, pushing this, using federal power to try 158 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: to advance this as well. This is not a minor thing, 159 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: This is not a side effect. This is the main effort. 160 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, I think It's also important to emphasize 161 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: they chose this battle, so everybody's out there like, why 162 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: can't you just leave? Because that's the other argument they'll make, Well, 163 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: why does this bother you so much? Why can't you 164 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: just leave trans people along alone? Well, because we don't 165 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: think that fourteen year olds should get their breast removed, 166 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: like that's a surgery that we don't think should occur 167 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: for minors. We don't think that fourteen and fifteen year 168 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: olds and younger twelve year olds should be given puberty blockers, 169 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: which keep someone from hint going into puberty and have massive, 170 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: as you can well imagine, develop mental issues. In fact, Buck, 171 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: there was even in the New York Times the story 172 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: recently where they said, hey, if you take puberty blockers, 173 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: the overall strength of your bones is brittle, because puberty 174 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: is when you get all of those extra hormones that 175 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: help to strengthen your body and your bones. And if 176 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: you get that delayed, then in your twenties and thirties 177 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and certainly on for the rest of your life, you're 178 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: more likely to have significant issues with your bones. That 179 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: seems like a really big deal. So we're not choosing 180 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: this battleground they are. We're just trying to provide some 181 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: sanity here. The lifestyle lives who won't buy apples unless 182 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: they're organic because they're so concerned about pesticides, you know, 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: won't put that their bodies a temple. They won't do that. 184 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: But they think that puberty blockers for a twelve year 185 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: old there. You know, that's a great idea. That's gender 186 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: just even the term it is Orwellian gender affirming care. 187 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: Notice they have gone from gender transition. It used to 188 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: be called gender transition surgery because you were trying to 189 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: change from something. Now what they say is it's affirmation. 190 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Affirmation implies you already are this. We're just making it 191 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: more clear that that's what you really are. It is intentional, 192 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: it is dishonest, it's odious, and another way that you 193 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: can tell this argument clay is made in bad faith. 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: These protesters, for example, the ones in Oklahoma, they're referring 195 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: to these legislative acts as genocide. That is a quote 196 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: genocide because of all the trans youth that they claim, 197 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: whom they claim will commit suicide unless doctors will cut 198 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: off their breaths at fifteen and give them puberty blockers. 199 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: A twelve they're going to commit to you are literally 200 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: killing kids, they say, unless you let us chop off 201 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: their genitals. This is how insane the left has become. 202 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Just for everybody out there listening, how many huge percentages 203 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I would bet of listeners have been tom boys themselves. 204 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Remember when that was a phrase, you know, like you'd 205 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: have a seven or eight year old girl, maybe I 206 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: don't know, twelve thirteen year old girl before puberty running 207 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: around thinking and feeling like she had a lot of 208 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: boy characteristics. And how many of those girls as they 209 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: age become women and are very happy to be women. Now, 210 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: how much different would that be if when we were 211 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: all seven or eight years old, if instead of saying, oh, 212 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, she's just kind of going through a phase, 213 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: let's let her develop, you know, and she'll decide what 214 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: she wants to do she gets older. What if we 215 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: had said, oh, yeah, you're a boy, let's stop puberty 216 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: from happening, let's totally change your gender, let's keep let's 217 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: have a surgery to remove your rest. Which of those 218 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: feels like a healthier way to treat seven or eight 219 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: year old kids say Hey, you know, you're probably gonna 220 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: work through it. It's a phase you're going through. You'll 221 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: be fine. And by the way, if you don't, when 222 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: you become twenty two, you have the right to change 223 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: your gender. Almost all of those girls out there, almost 224 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: every single girl who had tomboy characteristics. A lot of you, 225 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I bet are listening to us right now, your kids 226 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: or your grandkids. Maybe it was you. You grew up 227 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: your girls. You're totally happy. And how much different would 228 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: that be if everybody gathers around the Buck's Point and says, oh, 229 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, you must be a boy in a girl's body. 230 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead. And you never hear about the people 231 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: and they exist, and you've heard from their interviews with them, 232 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: the people that went through that went through this, and 233 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: they realize they've destroyed their lives. They'll never have children there, 234 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: they'll never be gender normal, they'll never have a normal 235 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: love life, they'll never have an orgasm, they'll probably be 236 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: in continent, their bones will break. What about what about 237 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: the suicides of those people, Oh no, you can't talk 238 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: about that, just even the mental health of those people. 239 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: What they're doing is monstrous. This is when they do 240 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: this to children. It is monstrous, and everybody should understand that. 241 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: Imagine waking up tomorrow to text messages and emails from 242 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: your bank and credit card companies letting you know guess what, 243 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Your bank accounts empty, your credit cards have been maxed out. 244 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: That's a worst case scenario of online identity theft, but 245 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: some cyber hackers have probably gotten ahold of your information, 246 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: pretended to be you, and at some point in time 247 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: have tried to take both your money and your good credit. 248 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Online identity theft can be a huge disruption to your life. 249 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Recovering from it can take a while, and it quickly 250 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: can depend on two things type of identity theft and 251 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: how quickly you act. 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She is a little bit 270 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: earlier in the program, but we can't forget Jen Saki, 271 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: the original spokesperson for Joe Biden in his administration. Jinsaki said, 272 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden needs to do tonight in his State 273 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: of the Union is tell a story, because he's an 274 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: amazing story I can't even an He's an amazing storyteller, 275 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: she says. Elissa giving a speech that even if it's 276 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: forty million people watch it, which is less than the 277 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl, but still that's a huge number of people. 278 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: That's a big opportunity for any President's the biggest speech 279 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: of the year any president gives. But what he needs 280 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: to do is tell a story. Joe Biden is an 281 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: amazing storyteller. I mean, you sit in the Oval Office 282 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: and he can story tell for six hours. He needs 283 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: to do that in this speech tonight. People aren't sitting 284 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: at home and just like writing down data points, right, 285 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: they support people that they feel something from. So he 286 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: needs to tell the story an amazing story. I mean 287 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: he tells a lot of lies. Book. They also are claiming, 288 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: did you see this story that Joe Biden wrote the 289 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: entire speech by himself. There is to do a sequel 290 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: to the corn Pop story. Remember that maybe that could 291 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: be the theme of the entire entire State of the Union. 292 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: He and Cornpop sit down and have a good discussion. 293 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: I want I want Biden to tell some of the old, 294 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: the old classic Biden stories where even the staunchest Democrats 295 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: look at him like, what is this crazy old man saying? 296 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: But he had harry legs and the kids would feel 297 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: the hair standing up on my legs. You guys all 298 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: remember that that was that was bizarre at a level 299 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that I still can't begin to fathom what he thought 300 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: he was even talking about. But you know, he's president somehow. 301 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: What would Biden's stay to the Union actually sound like 302 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: if he truly wrote every word in the State of 303 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: the Union. I mean, I mean I would love to 304 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: hear that. That would be worth watching, Yeah, I would. 305 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: I would make sure that I had a stiff drink 306 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: with me and could kick back, and I was ready 307 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: to roll. We're gonna watch it tonight because that's what 308 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: we do. We watch it so we can tell you 309 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: what's going on, and if something you want to watch, 310 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be some moments in the Tunnel of 311 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: the Towers Foundation, my friends delivers on its promise to 312 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: do good and never forget the sacrifices America's heroes have 313 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: made for US. Heroes like Air Force Senior Master Sergeant 314 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Israel del Toro, Junior. Israel promised his father he'd take 315 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: care of his family and his son, that he wouldn't 316 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: grow up without a father. 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I was not paying attention 335 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: of the music. We came back to. Yeah, it gets 336 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot faster. We you know, we should. I gotta 337 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: come into like the there we go now I recognize 338 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: there we go ninety nine. Okay. Anyway, now that part 339 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: first part I didn't get it. I had to get 340 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: the beat picked up. There I've been, I've been. I've 341 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: been bothering our team to play that ever since the 342 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: balloon went up. So thank you team. It's like, where's 343 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: my where there is my ninety nine balloons? Yeah, but 344 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: the ninety nine balloons was many too many because we 345 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: only needed one peak balloon. Um. So that song, by 346 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: the way, is about balloons traversing from West Berlin to 347 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: East Berlin, triggering defense systems that then lead to nuclear 348 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: war and the annihilation of the planet. So I'm just 349 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna say happy, way happy or sounding than I would 350 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: have presumed for for something that would be reflecting of 351 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: that design. As The New York Times describe it, a 352 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: bunch of balloons floats over the border between West and 353 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: East Germany, triggering defense systems and leading to a war 354 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: that destroys the planet. That is what that song is 355 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: actually about. So when you're in the bar and you're 356 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: having that seventh shot of Quervaux and you're like ninety 357 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: nine balloons, you're you know, yelling it. It's about the 358 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: end of the world. Just so everybody knows, man, what 359 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: a downer. I mean, everybody was in a good mood. 360 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: You just brought them right back to the square. You 361 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: sound like Biden doing the State of the Union. No joke, 362 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: that's like you know how you know when you were 363 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: a kid, do you ever hear people playing a ring 364 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: around the rosie? Right? People? Yeah, that I know that, 365 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: but I know that story. Yeah. People say it's from 366 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the Black Deck and that this is supposed to They 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: taught kids this and the idea is that it would 368 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, ward away the any active about as effective 369 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: as typle masking outside of just the modern day mask. So, 370 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: Karine Jean Pierre, since I got to play the song 371 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: that I've been wanted to play for days. Karine Jean 372 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Pierre was on the View because when you are addressing 373 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: an urgent matter of national security importance, Clay, where do 374 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: you go? You go to the geniuses of the View. 375 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: Obviously that's the first stop on the media tour. So 376 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: you can have you know, Joy behar way in on 377 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: whether we should send apaches to Ukraine, etc. Right, I'll 378 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: send all the fanciest plays bad. Joy behar is the 379 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: dumbest person on television daily. I don't know that she 380 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: would be any worse analyzing information. And Joe Biden is 381 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: which is really kind of scary. But if joy behar 382 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: was in the situation room, I don't know that she 383 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: could be much worse than Biden is. I actually have 384 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: a a before we get to the view. I have 385 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: a real question for you. Something really bad China invades Taiwan. 386 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: Ye okay, it's happening. The flotillas have mobilized, their first 387 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: air strikes have happened. It's on, and you only have 388 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: a choice between Joe Biden answering that phone call on 389 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, the red phone, or Kamala Harris. Who do 390 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: you prefer to answer that call if it were to happen, 391 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, in the next year. Kamala Harris. Not because 392 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: not because I think that Kamala Harris is in any 393 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: way should be in the position that she is in. 394 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: But I think that given the fact that she is 395 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I think fifty eight, I think she could synthesize information 396 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: and competing arguments better than Joe Biden could, which could 397 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: lead to a better result. I think I was actually 398 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: talking about this buck with my wife yesterday because we 399 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: were talking about the balloon and her argument. I think 400 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: it's a good one. She's like, I know, Joe Biden 401 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: is ostensibly the commander in chief, that is, the military 402 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: officials have to come speak to him and say, mister President, 403 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: here's I don't think that they speak to him and 404 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: that he in any way is actually the commander in chief. 405 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: So I think, really the question here, Buck, is who 406 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: is the military official? Who is the decider? Right? What 407 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: should happen is when we select a president, we are 408 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: selecting the decider in chief. Whatever the toughest issues are 409 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: in the world, they come to his desk. You've been 410 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: in there for these briefings, Bucks, Yes, you have a 411 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of smart people, this is true, who have elevated 412 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: themselves inside of the government, and they will make the 413 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: case we should choose option A, mister president, and they 414 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: will give you all the reasons why option A should 415 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: be selected. Then B and C, and they're all really 416 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: good options. And the job of the president is to 417 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: decide between several challenging options the best. He's the decider 418 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: in chief. That's what scares me the most about Biden. 419 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I think you're right about the Kamala choice between the two. 420 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: I think maybe Biden twenty years ago I would take 421 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: over Kamala. But but Biden now I think I think 422 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: Kamala is the right choice under that very very frightening 423 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: so choice. She's the best of two bad the least 424 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: bad option of the two of them, if that phone 425 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: call to were to come along. And then also on 426 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: those kinds of briefings and those moments, you know, one 427 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: thing I will say, I'm very critical of the deep 428 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: state and the apparatus and everything that goes on from 429 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: the top level, whether it's FBI, CIA. There are freakishly 430 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: smart people who can sit there and just tell you 431 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: everything that you would ever ever want to know about 432 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: every Soviet missile system devised in the last fifty year. 433 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Those people do ex in the CIA and the DA, 434 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: and you know they're there. They're just not the ones 435 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: that are, you know, going for big photo ops with 436 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: the president. They're not the ones that are appearing on NBC. 437 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: They're not the ones that are you know, So just 438 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: to be clear, there is that repository of knowledge that exists, 439 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: but they're not involved in the political nonsense. And they're 440 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: also not the ones who you'll you'll be hearing about 441 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: the opposite of those super brilliant people that know a 442 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: lot about a lot of things and they just quietly 443 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: do their work every day inside the intelligence community and 444 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: inside the Pentagon and the military intelligence would be the 445 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: View does not bring a lot of knowledge, skill and 446 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: wisdom to anything, certainly not to daytime television. Karine Jean 447 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: Pierre though this was interesting to me. She went on 448 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: the View to talk to them about blocking US transmissions 449 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: from the ground to the balloon play too. One of 450 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the things that we were able to do is to 451 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: make sure none of the sense set of security information, 452 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: national security information on the ground was transmitted. So we 453 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: were able to block that. But at the same time, 454 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: we're able to gather information form the balloon as it 455 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: was traveling on its path and then when the time 456 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: allowed and it permitted the President who was also the 457 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: commander in chief as we all know, and when it 458 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the balloon got over water, and as he had asked 459 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: for the Pentagon to do, which is to take it down, 460 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: they took it down. By the way, can we just 461 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: say shoot it down? We shot it down? Yeah, we didn't. 462 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: We didn't take it down like you know, like party 463 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: streamers in the office birthday set up, like we we 464 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: shot it down. Let's just use their real terminology, I think. 465 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: So we just like gently glided it to the ground. 466 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Um but clay, but clay first of all? Okay, so 467 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: let's let's say we just take this at face value. 468 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: They able to block the transmission back to China? Were 469 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: they able to block it the whole time? Where are 470 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: we to believe that they were just hovering there blocking 471 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: the trends? How long was that going? This one on 472 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: for days? Right? This thing doesn't move fast? And also 473 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: the Chinese never they didn't have some uplink that would 474 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: send back the I mean, if they thought a slow 475 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: moving balloon was going to have to get back to 476 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Chinese airspace intact, this is the crappiest surveillance plan you 477 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: know in history. I mean, you'd be better off with 478 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: a hot air balloon back in the Civil War days. Right, 479 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: So something's up. Well, not only that, what did China 480 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: expect that? We spend a lot of time talking about 481 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: what we do, right, But a big part of this 482 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: to me is figuring out what were China's motivations. I 483 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: asked the question earlier, Buck, where did China launch this from? 484 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Did China when they did their briefing on what the 485 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon was going to accomplish? Did they ever, 486 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: in any part of their analysis think this balloon's going 487 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: to enter United States airspace in Alaska and exit off 488 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: the coast of South Carolina, and then the United States 489 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: going to shoot it down? Like, what did they think 490 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: my expectation would have been if I were China? The 491 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: United States is going to shoot this thing down over 492 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Alaska as soon as it significantly enters airspace, right, Like, 493 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: I think the story of the Trump thing may be true, 494 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: but I think they were kind of probing, Hey do 495 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: they notice if we go into Hawaiian airspace a little bit? 496 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Hey do they notice if we go into Florida airspace 497 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: a little bit? Do they have the NORAD defense mechanisms 498 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: in place to recognize where this balloon is? I think 499 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: that was their test. I don't think they ever expected 500 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: that it would go all the way across the entire 501 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: continental United States, And so I suspect that they adjusted 502 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: the game plan, like they are like, Okay, well we're 503 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: in Montana, why don't we go over this Montana airfield 504 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna drift down. I think they thought 505 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: that this thing would get shot down. So if that's 506 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: what they thought was going to happen, what is their 507 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: analysis right now in China of what took place. To me, 508 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: it looks like, oh, the United States defense mechanisms are 509 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: not very strong. Biden does not have the political will 510 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: to act aggressively in short order when given new information, 511 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: Which is why I think your question, Buck is such 512 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: a good one. What is he going to do if 513 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: he gets woken up at three am in the middle 514 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: of the night and they say China has begun its 515 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: invasion of Taiwan. Everybody's asked about this, by the way, 516 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: claims that well rather agrees that no one really knows 517 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: what the US would do, that this strategic ambiguity is 518 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: really a we're not sure what we would do. We 519 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: think we have strategic ambiguity with regard to Taiwan so 520 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: that we keep China on its on its toes, you know, 521 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: so we don't give away the game, But actually we don't. 522 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: That's the truth. We don't know what we would do. 523 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: And Buck, here's the other question, what are Biden's top 524 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: advisors going to suggest to him to do? Because if 525 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: my wife's right, and basically Biden is commander in chief 526 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: and name only, then whomever those top military advisors are, 527 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: whatever their recommendation is is what Biden is going to do. 528 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: So don't worry. That's a lot of power. Secretary of 529 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: Defense of the Future Buddha Judge will be handling it, 530 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: just like he's handled the transportation situation in this country. 531 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: So it'll all be fine, folks. You know, Clay and 532 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I really do love learning. We consume data and information constantly, 533 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: and we love sharing what we learn. I mean, we 534 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: have these you know, nerddom sessions every day here we 535 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: talk about random history, all kinds of stuff. We love it. 536 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Hillsdale shares a passion with us for learning. Hillsdale College. 537 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: That's why they're offering some thirty online video courses. 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We're gonna 556 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: be joined in the top of the next hour by 557 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stith to talk about the crazy transgender 558 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: protests going on in his state. We're also going to 559 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: be joined by Gordon Chang. We'll ask him that question 560 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: about it potentially Taiwan invades China, what the impact would 561 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: be there, And also certainly discussed with him the Chinese supply, 562 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: the Chinese balloon spy issue. But Buck, I got a 563 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: confession for you last night, and I may need advice 564 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: from from the Clay and Buck audience out here. Did 565 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: you play horse against your dad when you were a 566 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: kid growing up. Ever, I'm gonna lie I definitely defeated 567 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: him in horse many many a time. So last night 568 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: I played against my twelve year old son, my sixth grader, 569 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: and he beat me h O r se to nothing. Now, 570 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: we have in the Travis household pretty regular matchups between 571 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: the two of us, and we have a belt championship 572 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: belt that it's bestowed depending on who wins. But when 573 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: you get beat h O r se to nothing, it 574 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: was a it was a dark moment. I mean, it 575 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: was sobering to get crushed like this by your sixth grader. 576 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know what at this point I should do. 577 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: There are a lot of different suggestions out there. I'm 578 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: only forty three, but there were a lot of claim injuries, 579 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, trick shoulders, a lot of 580 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: issues associated with that. How do you handle one of 581 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: your offspring becoming better than you at a sport, particularly 582 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: at this age. It's one thing, like you know, sixteen, 583 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, when a kids hit puberty, twelve year old 584 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: beating you pre puberty is a tough one to take. 585 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Humility is an important thing clay. So however you achieve it, 586 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I think it's all for the better. The funniest comment 587 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: buck was that I saw and I can't keep up 588 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: with all the comments because I tweeted about it last night. 589 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: The funniest, funniest comment was one guy said, you should 590 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: have just told him you slept with his mom, which 591 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: is which is accurate and also and also hysterical. I'm 592 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to put that one in the back pocket 593 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: because there is some trash talk that goes on sometimes 594 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: during the course of the horse game. But when you 595 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: get blanked h O r se to nothing, no letters 596 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: on him, there's not a lot of trash talk I 597 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: could be involved in. I'm pretty sure sometimes with my 598 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: dad back in the trash talking days, a lot of 599 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: it was around ping pong. By the way, the sextons 600 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: were really and we all I had a grandfather. Who's 601 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the best pong in your family? I mean, I'm the 602 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: best at ping pong in my family. My brothers are 603 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna right now, they're freaking out, especially if the but 604 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're not listening so they won't even know. 605 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Some days they do, some days they don't. I am 606 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the best at ping pong. I am absurdly good for 607 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't play very off. Okay, So, like, do 608 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: you have spins? Like is there substantial spinning or you 609 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: more of like a like if you watch really really 610 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: good ping pong players, they have an inordinate amount of 611 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: ability to spin. I'm talking about, Like, are you just 612 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: a kind of a traditional player? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm 613 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: a traditional player. But I mean I I look when 614 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I play, it's like when Forrest Gump is doing his 615 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: thing in the movie on the ping pong. So you're 616 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: taking full swings like it's I think I'm pretty good 617 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: at ping pong too. I'm racking the oh okay, okabe, 618 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: there there's gonna be some big wagers. Do you have 619 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: a ping pong table at the at the Travis Resides. 620 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: We do not because I've been so afraid of my 621 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: boys are so competitive, all three of them, and you know, 622 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I am concerned with introducing paddles into 623 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: the house for fear of what those paddles might do, 624 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: both as weapons and also as projectiles that could break 625 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: things all throughout the house depending on who's winning or losing. 626 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: We used to have the brothers three brothers and our 627 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: cousins would even set up our own paintball wars in 628 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: the backyard when we would go upstate. That didn't always 629 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: end well, I can tell you because because you know, 630 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: when you shoot somebody with a paintball gun and you 631 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: think that maybe they didn't actually have the ball, you 632 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: know it didn't splat, maybe you shoot him three or 633 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: four more times. People don't like that, So things can 634 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: get those out there. Those things hurt too. They do hurt. 635 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: You take a paintball in the wrong place, like it 636 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: is a It is painful. And I got hit in 637 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: my hands a few times in the fingers. Let me 638 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: tell you, the fingers is one of the worst places 639 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: to get hit with a paintball. I took one in 640 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: the back of the head one time. In paintball. Usually 641 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: you have like some protection over the eyes, hopefully. But 642 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you to you know a line 643 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: that you know when I when I would sort of 644 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: talk trash to my dad other in basketball or ping 645 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: pong back in the day, or at the rifle range. 646 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: You know what you would just say to me sometimes 647 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: I made you which which is which is true? That's accurate, 648 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: not a bad line. Not a bad line. I'm gonna 649 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: have to trow that one. I like I slept with 650 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: your mom. I think you would have a tough time 651 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: dealing with that one.