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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek
Speaker 1: Eagleton this Tuesday, number four, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode
Speaker 1: number eighty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're live from the s WBC Morty Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: Got Nick and Dave with me. Ambers out today. She
Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow and that's when we'll start getting
Speaker 1: you guys ready for the upcoming Cowboys versus Philadelphia Eagles matchup.
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing today? Great? Derek? You good? Dave? Yeah? Nick, wonderful,
Speaker 1: awesome here see yeah, I mean all right, good you go.
Speaker 1: We we could hear you. I don't think you know,
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm all good to good. We got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a big picture look around the NFL today. And
Speaker 1: it's no better day to take a big picture look
Speaker 1: than today, because thank god we did that show Friday.
Speaker 1: You would have come in here and ben all right,
Speaker 1: first quarter against the Saints, Yes we would. We would
Speaker 1: have had to jump into the game, But we did
Speaker 1: that on Friday. That's old news. That's a team we
Speaker 1: already beat us tonight. Ain't It doesn't matter, it's just
Speaker 1: the Saints five years ago. It does, It absolutely does.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's just really if you go back
Speaker 1: to Thursday and then you factor in everything that happened
Speaker 1: Sunday and then even last night, it seems like everything
Speaker 1: is just going to Cowboys away. All the teams that
Speaker 1: you would want to lose, for the most part, lost
Speaker 1: on Sunday and on Monday, and it's put the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in a really really unique position just from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of where they sit right now. Cowboys are leading the
Speaker 1: division at seven and five. You've got Philadelphia, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you got Philadelphia second at six and six. Washington tied
Speaker 1: with them at six and six, in New York at
Speaker 1: four and eight. Um. The interesting thing about all this
Speaker 1: is there's now a clear scenario as to how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys could win, could clinch the division essentially, if they
Speaker 1: can win the next two games, which will be at home,
Speaker 1: against Philly, then on the road against Indianapolis UM and
Speaker 1: then if Washington loses one of the next two games
Speaker 1: against either the Giants or at the Jacksonville Jaguars Cowboys
Speaker 1: will clinch the nfcast. Amazing that we are here. WTF,
Speaker 1: wtf happened? How did? How did we get here? Which?
Speaker 1: They were three and five? They were three and five,
Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, it's not mathematic, but I mean
Speaker 1: it's not a lock. But I mean, if you beat
Speaker 1: the Eagles, you take basically a two game lead with
Speaker 1: a tiebreaker with three games to play. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: win this game and it's almost impossible for you to
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs over because of what happened last night.
Speaker 1: And I mean a lot of people were like tweeting
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game, like, wit, should I
Speaker 1: did that? Now? Yeah, I mean you kind of think
Speaker 1: about it because you're like, they're not gonna win anything
Speaker 1: with with with Sanche. Yeah, you couldn't have predicted that
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy was gonna also, right, I don't think they
Speaker 1: were gonna win with him. But I think halfway through
Speaker 1: the game I started and actually really before the game,
Speaker 1: I was kind of on the fence. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, Philly's probably the best way to root here,
Speaker 1: but I don't think Washington's going anywhere. So the one
Speaker 1: thing I do fear a little bit if, and I
Speaker 1: think Cowboys fans should, is that Philly gets on a
Speaker 1: roll and you start looking at what some of the
Speaker 1: things that have changed for Philadelphia last Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you can it can happen. Yeah, you can stop it,
Speaker 1: but you look at some of the stuff that's happened. Uh.
Speaker 1: Golden Tate last night gets going for them in a
Speaker 1: big way. He has seven catches ready, five yards in touchdown. Um,
Speaker 1: they get back Darren Sproles who has a touchdown for
Speaker 1: them last night. An important piece They've now found this
Speaker 1: undrafted guy Josh Adams, who is now giving some giving
Speaker 1: them a regular presence as a runner. Last night he
Speaker 1: had what was a twenty carries for eighty five yards
Speaker 1: four point three average. Yeah, ERTs is still being arts,
Speaker 1: Wins is still being wins. The big problem for them
Speaker 1: still is their secondary has just been stripped to to
Speaker 1: to you know, it's been tattered at this point. Ribbons um,
Speaker 1: And so do you think though that that that's a
Speaker 1: legitimate concern that Philly now can get on a role
Speaker 1: and you might be facing a very different team in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia than what you face the first time round. Of
Speaker 1: course it's a concern. But here's the thing that's the NFL.
Speaker 1: Like nobody's gonna do this job for you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you, We're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: games to make the playoffs. That's how this works. And
Speaker 1: the Eagles winning that game put you in a position
Speaker 1: to take care of business by beating them. I didn't
Speaker 1: want Washington to win that game because the Cowboys can't
Speaker 1: do anything about them from here on out. They don't
Speaker 1: play and all of their opponents the rest of the
Speaker 1: way are pretty easy as far as record goes. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I know it's the NFL. The Eagles tougher than I
Speaker 1: thought it was. It is a little tougher, especially to
Speaker 1: what you saw last week. A seat like they're not
Speaker 1: winning those games. Giants, Jags, Giants, Jags, Titans, and Eagles. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's no, that's no teams with winning records zero. So again,
Speaker 1: every game is tough in the NFL, I understand, But
Speaker 1: then go compare that to what the Eagles have to do.
Speaker 1: They go Eagles go to Dallas, I believe, to La
Speaker 1: to La Houston, and then they finish it off with Washington.
Speaker 1: So that's three teams that are likely, two teams that
Speaker 1: are definitely going to the playoffs, one that looks like
Speaker 1: it is in Dallas, and then a division game to
Speaker 1: finish it out. That's rough, you know, like you always want,
Speaker 1: for the most part, what you always want when you're
Speaker 1: talking about division games is you want to want them
Speaker 1: to split. You want the home team to win. And
Speaker 1: that's what happened last night. And I think if it
Speaker 1: comes down to it, if it matters at that last game,
Speaker 1: you'll probably want Washington to beat Philadelphia at that point.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know if it will matter.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a feeling that the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: be playing Tampa Bay two days before Christmas with a
Speaker 1: chance to lock it up, right then, that's what that's
Speaker 1: kind of what So you think they're gonna lose one
Speaker 1: the next two if they're gonna need to Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: to lock it up, I mean, or somebody wins a game,
Speaker 1: Washington wins the next two, they got to win. If
Speaker 1: they lose one of the next two and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia and Indy then Cowboys clinch. Yeah, anything can happen,
Speaker 1: but like it's reasonable to think the Cowboys split these
Speaker 1: next two games. Division game against Philly, who you just
Speaker 1: you could be a completely different team, and then a
Speaker 1: Colts team that's fighting for its playoff life on the road.
Speaker 1: So this has happened at least three times that I
Speaker 1: can think of. Now in December where the Eagles are
Speaker 1: not the favored and they come in Dallas has a
Speaker 1: chance to really do something here. I think Thanksgiving fourteen
Speaker 1: was one. They were kind of hot and Sanchez came
Speaker 1: in there and it did well. Um, I want to
Speaker 1: say in the two thousand and seven season they were ten,
Speaker 1: they won ten in a row and lost through the
Speaker 1: Eagles and Westbrook, and maybe even two thousand and six
Speaker 1: or so when they had a chance on Christmas Day
Speaker 1: and Jeff Garcia came in here and be I mean like,
Speaker 1: it just seems like there's been times where they have
Speaker 1: had a chance to knock out the Eagles and win
Speaker 1: something big and they couldn't do it. So this you could,
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole division turns on this game because
Speaker 1: everything looks so cut and dry right now, But the
Speaker 1: Eagles win that game, they're in first player in first place. Although,
Speaker 1: like I said, though I like, I like this situation
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys because the Eagles have a murderers row
Speaker 1: in front of them. But again going back to my point,
Speaker 1: this is all you can ask for, Like the game
Speaker 1: is in front of you, the opportunities there, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you're not going to build up this unassailable lead by not.
Speaker 1: You have to win games and play your part in
Speaker 1: it too, So this sets you up. It's all right
Speaker 1: there for you. And that's why I think it worked
Speaker 1: out so well if the Eagles won that game. And
Speaker 1: the best part about it, like you said, you're exactly
Speaker 1: right there. And the best part it is is down
Speaker 1: the stretch here. Cowboys have the lead by themselves. That's
Speaker 1: what it was good about Philly when they had the
Speaker 1: lead by themselves. They've got the best team in the
Speaker 1: in the division right now now. I mean, they're playing
Speaker 1: better than the Eagles. They're the most they're the most
Speaker 1: complete team, and they have the most favorable schedule to win.
Speaker 1: What else do you want? You just said it's all
Speaker 1: lined up there for you to go with. Which and
Speaker 1: one more thing I can hear I can hear somebody
Speaker 1: saying it at home. It's like, well, what if the
Speaker 1: Eagles get on a roll, the Cowboys are on a roll,
Speaker 1: so what whatever, let's go. Yeah, what else do you
Speaker 1: want but division rivals playing for the lead in December.
Speaker 1: That's why we do this, right, And if you want
Speaker 1: your mind to be blown even more, take that three
Speaker 1: and five team and consider the fact that they are
Speaker 1: in a great position to even be the third seed
Speaker 1: in the NFCA, not just the fourth seed. Right now,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears are the third seed. They're at eight
Speaker 1: and four, But listen to what they've got left on
Speaker 1: the schedule. They're at home against the Rams this weekend,
Speaker 1: They're at home against Green Bay. The following weekend, they're
Speaker 1: at San Francisco, and finish the season at Minnesota. Three
Speaker 1: of those four teams, I'm sorry, two of those four
Speaker 1: teams are playoff bound teams or at least fighting for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And obviously Green Bay is still green Bay
Speaker 1: when it has Aaron Rodgers. So any given week keeps
Speaker 1: can I keep saying it can be Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers that we know every Friday, I'm
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers and the Packers and every Sunday they embarrassed.
Speaker 1: They just like in this last weekend, which first now
Speaker 1: that they fired their coach, watch them. You know they're
Speaker 1: gonna finish, get a road in one. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: also good for the point. Yeah, that's good for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at this point because you just want them to
Speaker 1: put losses on teams in the division, I mean, in
Speaker 1: the in the conference. That all just helps the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Here's the Green Bay won't get back in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I love having the It's so much fun to when
Speaker 1: you know, when you get to this point in the
Speaker 1: season when you can sort you know, sort of. I
Speaker 1: spend more time than anybody on that stupid ESPN like
Speaker 1: playoff predictor, you know. But the funny thing for me is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, people in my mentions on Twitter are like, well,
Speaker 1: are you sure we want the three seed? I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to the Superdome? How do you eat?
Speaker 1: Like how do you even know how that's gonna shake out?
Speaker 1: Like literally, the Rams. Unless you think the Rams are
Speaker 1: going fifteen and one, that's not over either because if
Speaker 1: the Rams lose another game, then the answer back up
Speaker 1: in first and Honestly, flip a coin. Either one of
Speaker 1: those teams is gonna be a tough out at their place.
Speaker 1: I know what everybody's saying about the Saints, but the Rams.
Speaker 1: Have you watched them lately, They're gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: out at their place, just like if you get tough
Speaker 1: out at there. If we can assume today that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Rams one and Saints two, I would much
Speaker 1: rather go to LA. That's just because you haven't faced
Speaker 1: the Rams this year. It's because I've been to the
Speaker 1: Superdome for a big game and I know what a
Speaker 1: tough place that is to play. That's really all it
Speaker 1: comes down. I'm not certainly wouldn't be the same thing
Speaker 1: in LA. They've turned that fan base into well. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: there'll be some silver and blue in the stands in LA, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but there'll be some silver and blue in New Orleans
Speaker 1: as well, but as much. Yeah, but I just think
Speaker 1: that both those teams on the field, both those teams
Speaker 1: are gonna be a tough Games are tricky because you
Speaker 1: don't really have a huge advantage to go buy those tickets,
Speaker 1: you know, as a home team. I remember when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys played the Packers the game that you know, the
Speaker 1: days non catch or whatever. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans tons at the end. Remember they were holding
Speaker 1: the finished this fight signs. And I remember there has
Speaker 1: been times here when the Cowboys have won a playoff,
Speaker 1: made it to the playoffs at home, and then kind
Speaker 1: of scrambling to sell out the tickets that week. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of a chaotic thing that happens. I think
Speaker 1: they've gotten better at it by putting it into the ticket.
Speaker 1: It cracks me up, like, Yeah, people clowned on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys four or five years ago for putting playoff tickets
Speaker 1: in their season ticket package, Like that's just smartest smart.
Speaker 1: It's like everything the year that they won. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think it is ironically because I mean in what like
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen was when Jerry was like it's going to
Speaker 1: be an uphill battle man and they went twelve and four.
Speaker 1: Which leads me back to the overarching point, which is like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're talking about it's every every game
Speaker 1: when you when you think about points in the seasons
Speaker 1: since you've been here like five or six years, I
Speaker 1: mean like twenty fourteen they lost to the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was a sea of red. You know, yep, Kent,
Speaker 1: but it reminds been one of the Kent's best lines.
Speaker 1: But that and then you're like, there's no way this
Speaker 1: team's gonna do anything. And they go twelve and four,
Speaker 1: you know, and then and then like in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: they're two and oh and they're looking looking really good,
Speaker 1: and then they go four and twelve, and then Romo
Speaker 1: gets hurt in sixteen You're like, okay, but that's exactly
Speaker 1: the reason why. And we remember back, go back to
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, and we're having the conversation
Speaker 1: about you know, they always just at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, all the networks are talking about like, okay,
Speaker 1: who's the O and two team that will who's the
Speaker 1: team that will go on in two because their percentages
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs or so I'm like, that's irrelevant.
Speaker 1: The only reason why that statistic holds up is because
Speaker 1: typically if you go into you're a bad team, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that if you go into you're not gonna
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They're two different things, and you're seeing
Speaker 1: it more and more in the NFL now. Team to
Speaker 1: sometimes get off to these tough starts, they somehow start
Speaker 1: turning it around and before you get to the end
Speaker 1: of the season they're on a role. Houston was that
Speaker 1: team this year, Like they go three and three and
Speaker 1: then went on a run, lost to the New York
Speaker 1: Giant sacks, right, and then went on a run. So
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think it's not about it's
Speaker 1: not about the start necessarily. It's about if you're a
Speaker 1: bad team and you continue to be a bad team,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna make the playoffs. If you're a bad
Speaker 1: team that gets better, then you have you still have
Speaker 1: everything in front of you. You remember when when you
Speaker 1: were doing the Houston preview and you were like laying
Speaker 1: out these things like, well they're second in sacks, and
Speaker 1: their offense is average, you know, ninth and in scoring,
Speaker 1: and Hopkins is this and that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why do they suck? Yeah, You're like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And they didn't, Right, they did not suck. They were
Speaker 1: just having a rough time. I mean, but that lot
Speaker 1: was coming back after being out the whole previous year.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of stuff that But the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this year, I mean three and five, I mean,
Speaker 1: like against Tennessee like they sucked, Like that was bad,
Speaker 1: and that's I keep thinking about that too again going
Speaker 1: the time that I've been here, and I mean, we've
Speaker 1: never seen in my time, we've never seen a trade
Speaker 1: like this where you do something like go get to
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper. So I'm obviously you're talking about a different
Speaker 1: not in season. No am I crazy year that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened with Roy Willams with him here? I was
Speaker 1: years for me? Really? Are you serious? Ten years ago?
Speaker 1: You know my timing is sold ten years ago for
Speaker 1: Roy Williams. Ten years ago. Yes, I was in college.
Speaker 1: That was like that seems recent to me? No, um wow.
Speaker 1: My point was even the last Roy Williams. My point, sorry,
Speaker 1: was that we have never seen a Cowboys team in
Speaker 1: my time transformed like this like you, like I said
Speaker 1: this last week, like usually by mid October to Halloween,
Speaker 1: you know what the Cowboys are like last year? They well,
Speaker 1: actually they transformed last year for the worst. I guess
Speaker 1: you could say by this point we've known what they
Speaker 1: are twenty fifteen. They you know, they're two and seven.
Speaker 1: Even when Romo came back, it was a fools hope
Speaker 1: that they're going to do anything twenty six unprecedented winning
Speaker 1: street twenty fourteen. By Thanksgiving they were eight or nine
Speaker 1: and four. They were pretty good even you know, in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen they had a winning record, but that defense,
Speaker 1: like nobody was under any impression they were winning anything
Speaker 1: with that defense. So to sit here on December fourth
Speaker 1: and literally six weeks ago, I mean I would have
Speaker 1: bet my life we'd be talking about draft picks right
Speaker 1: now on October fifteenth. Think about what you just said, though,
Speaker 1: the two seasons that you pointed out that were anomalies
Speaker 1: last year and this year for two different reasons, one
Speaker 1: going the wrong way, one going the right way. In
Speaker 1: both those instances, there were two big things that happened
Speaker 1: to cause the change. Last year, they had gotten on
Speaker 1: a bit of a run, and then they lost Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott and that changed everything, right, and they lost all
Speaker 1: those other guys by the way as well, But that
Speaker 1: changed everything last year. This year, I think personally, as
Speaker 1: much as you talk about Amari Cooper, I think he
Speaker 1: added something to this team. But I also think the
Speaker 1: changes they made on the offensive line made just a
Speaker 1: huge difference. So I think those two things combined were
Speaker 1: the reason why we saw the ascension of this team
Speaker 1: to where they are now from where they were at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. And I think Sean Lee's
Speaker 1: injury is as weird as it sounds. I think that
Speaker 1: was actually a blessing for the for the Cowboys because Sean,
Speaker 1: not for Sean, not for Sean. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Layton vander esh is one of the
Speaker 1: best linebackers in football right now. He's playing at a
Speaker 1: high level. If he's gonna win Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be close, because Derwin James is playing out
Speaker 1: out of his mind. Oh my gosh. And the guy
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Darius Leonard, is playing really well. He's got
Speaker 1: great stats. I don't think he's gonna he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to win it. But I'm just saying, Layton Vanderes
Speaker 1: is playing at a Pro Bowl level, not just Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. And I don't know if that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with Sean Lee still in there. And now if
Speaker 1: Sean can come back. And I know you wrote a
Speaker 1: story about saying a great segue and where you're going
Speaker 1: to as you started talking about I was like, thank you,
Speaker 1: Nick for the segue. We're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, We're gonna talk about with Jerry
Speaker 1: right about Sean Leean where he fits into this linebacking core.
Speaker 1: Whenever he comes back, we'll debt women come right back.
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Speaker 1: It's the second segment of the Break, live from the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We're talking big picture
Speaker 1: today Cowboys and where they sit in the NFC, in
Speaker 1: the NFC Easton, in the NFL. Right before the break.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna ruin your segue, but I do
Speaker 1: think it's worth pointing out just you know, we spend
Speaker 1: so much time talking about the division thing like, thanks
Speaker 1: to everything that happened over the weekend, wildcard is in
Speaker 1: play for the NFC that I know, No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: had I had that, and because Nick took it a
Speaker 1: different direction, I thought, well, I might not bring it back,
Speaker 1: but let's take it back. Let's let's jump in that
Speaker 1: real quick in before before we get over to what
Speaker 1: Jerry had to say. Never in my life would have
Speaker 1: thought that would happen either. We all concluded at mid
Speaker 1: season that was not an option. Wildcard was not an
Speaker 1: option for the Cowboys or anybody from the NFC's for
Speaker 1: that matter. And right now, here's where they sit. You've
Speaker 1: got Seattle at seven and five as the top wildcard
Speaker 1: at this time. They are the only team that has
Speaker 1: a record the same him as the Cowboys, and they
Speaker 1: obviously have a tie break over the Cowboys. Everybody else
Speaker 1: right now as it sits, is below the Cowboy for
Speaker 1: Cowboys for even a while. That second wildcard spot. You
Speaker 1: got Minnesota at six, five and one. You've got Carolina
Speaker 1: who is just mightily sliding like they are. Things are
Speaker 1: going bad for them. And by the way, yeah, and
Speaker 1: by the way, Greg Olsen might be done for the season.
Speaker 1: I know he said, he tore, he ruptured his plants,
Speaker 1: are fascists whatever it's Yeah, it sounds very painful. And
Speaker 1: they've got the Saints twice. They're six and six, and
Speaker 1: then you got obviously Philly in Washington. Listen to what
Speaker 1: the schedule looks like for Minnesota, for Carolina, Minnesota for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, they'll play Seattle, so one
Speaker 1: of them has to take a loss at Seattle. They'll
Speaker 1: play Miami, then they'll play at Detroit, and then they
Speaker 1: finished the season against Chicago, So they got two games
Speaker 1: there that are gonna be really tough for them, and
Speaker 1: then Carolina plays at Cleveland, they play New Orleans at home,
Speaker 1: they play at Lanta at home, and then they finished
Speaker 1: the season at New Orleans. So two games against New Orleans. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe that last game at New Orleans may not matter,
Speaker 1: who knows, But all that being said, those two teams
Speaker 1: are gonna battle each other a little bit. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be some jockeying for position there. And so it does
Speaker 1: line up to where even if the Cowboys lose to Philly,
Speaker 1: they still are sitting in a really really good spot
Speaker 1: to finish out. If they can finish out strong, to
Speaker 1: finish out and be able to be a wild card team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if Philly, If Philly is capable of getting
Speaker 1: on the type of role that you're describing, obviously, like
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to beat some good teams to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if Dallas and Philly both make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, you don't want which is amazing. You
Speaker 1: don't want that in that four or five game, if
Speaker 1: Dallas is the four, you know you have to go
Speaker 1: to Philly. No way, just play him again. Yeah, are fat?
Speaker 1: I tell you the one that I think is the
Speaker 1: most favorable. I mean, if you can get to three,
Speaker 1: I guess that that's that's fine. You might have to
Speaker 1: face an NFC team. I have to face the Vikings,
Speaker 1: But um, I think being a four seed and play
Speaker 1: in Seattle like yesterday at the hospital visits, which by
Speaker 1: the way, is one of my favorite things we get
Speaker 1: to do now, it really is. It's a humbling thing.
Speaker 1: We did it yesterday and the guys were great. DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing in so many ways. But and he
Speaker 1: you know, he said something before the Saints game, obviously,
Speaker 1: and he was right about how how he was. He
Speaker 1: was right, I'm detailed on how we're gonna how they
Speaker 1: gonna win that game. He was asked about a fan
Speaker 1: that one of the kids as a Seattle fan, and
Speaker 1: he he asked them about, you know, the question was
Speaker 1: do you did you turn him? Did you turn him
Speaker 1: as a as a Seattle fan? And they still you know,
Speaker 1: or they cowboy fans down. He's like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't think we turned him. But it's okay. He'll
Speaker 1: know because we have to play them coming up in
Speaker 1: a few weeks and it'll be I mean, he's just straight,
Speaker 1: like like he really thinks that was on the schedule,
Speaker 1: and I was like already putting him in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's what's gonna have to be. I think
Speaker 1: he acts. He said that about the Saints too, Like
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure after the game he was like, we
Speaker 1: don't need to talk because we'll see him again or
Speaker 1: something like he's kind of matched up four versus five.
Speaker 1: They win and then they go to FLA. I think
Speaker 1: his mentality is probably just like everybody who ain't us
Speaker 1: is in the way. I mean, I don't know which
Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, he is hands down my favorite player
Speaker 1: on this team probably. I mean just the you know,
Speaker 1: between production on the field, personality off the field, genuine dude,
Speaker 1: good dude. Yeah. Just I think he took that that
Speaker 1: spot for me yesterday too. I actually walked around with
Speaker 1: him at the hospital and just the things that he
Speaker 1: that he does and the stuff he thinks about, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's got so much in front of him, so much
Speaker 1: going on. He's the leader of this defense right now. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know he's worried about going back to room
Speaker 1: twenty four twelve because the little girl was crying and
Speaker 1: didn't want to make sure that she she remembered the cowboys,
Speaker 1: as you know, when she was crying, you know, they
Speaker 1: woke her up basically. So he came back in there
Speaker 1: and she was in a better mood. And that was
Speaker 1: you know, his focus. Some little girl, you know, who's
Speaker 1: beautiful girl, bald head, just going through chemo, and she
Speaker 1: wanted a different toy, a specific toy, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you want that for okay, And he turned around to
Speaker 1: the pr lady that was working there and he said,
Speaker 1: write that down, please, her name and all that, because
Speaker 1: he's gonna make sure it happens. Yeah, I'm glad you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should have talked about at the top of the show, Joe.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so cool when they do those visits.
Speaker 1: I was with um, I was with Dak Jalen, Byron
Speaker 1: Travis and some other guys at the Children's hospital in Dallas,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, the way those kids and you
Speaker 1: know obviously the kids, but in their families too. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't even imagine like living my life
Speaker 1: in a hospital with my kid, and I mean and
Speaker 1: the worst part of that being you can't take away
Speaker 1: what's harming your child. Yeah, like nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just comfort them. That's as much it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know parents are Cowboys fans too. It lights there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just it's cool to see
Speaker 1: the impact that those guys, the brand. You always talking
Speaker 1: about the brand and the star and all that. Just
Speaker 1: the impact of it. And I mean, as great as
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is, these little kids don't know DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: and they know two players on the team, probably Um
Speaker 1: and and that, you know, just just by face and
Speaker 1: they see him and they definitely don't know Damian Wilson
Speaker 1: or cheerleaders, but the uniform and start in the star
Speaker 1: and then they come in and just like you said,
Speaker 1: it just kind of it brightens their day. I mean,
Speaker 1: they woke up some parents, you know, they had long nights.
Speaker 1: Parents are there, you know, and they're trying to get
Speaker 1: their phone and to take pictures and all that. It's
Speaker 1: just it's awesome. It's really one of the best things
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys do. I'm glad they do it. I'm
Speaker 1: glad we get to kind of tag along for it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are those are the really cool moments to show
Speaker 1: you that what you do, because I know sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: have conversation with different people and they'll be like, you
Speaker 1: know they you know they're a doctor or their teacher,
Speaker 1: or you know, they have careers that that really matter.
Speaker 1: And what I mean is like they are touching people's lives.
Speaker 1: And it takes moments like that for you to realize
Speaker 1: how much these jobs and I'm talking about working for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can affect people's lives because it does have
Speaker 1: a way of bringing joy to people. It does have
Speaker 1: a way of helping people escape from their reality. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's a pretty hard reality, and so really it does
Speaker 1: in a way have its own place in society of
Speaker 1: being able to be a help to people in times
Speaker 1: of need. Ye, this little kid, he I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was dealing with, but I'm sure it was
Speaker 1: terrible based on the setup in his hospital room. But
Speaker 1: they woke him up to it, like this little kid.
Speaker 1: And this little guy woke up and dak Byron Jaalen
Speaker 1: or like at his bedside, like that's like the first
Speaker 1: thing he saw when he woke up from his nap.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's probably pretty cool. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. You wake up, dad, don't wake me up
Speaker 1: right now, Like I'm in this great dream. Don't wake
Speaker 1: me up. It was actually funny. I'll change something a
Speaker 1: little bit. Last night at the Christmas party, I was
Speaker 1: standing with a couple of people and we looked up
Speaker 1: and you know Steven, and Steven kind of walks around
Speaker 1: and works the room a little bit. So he's standing
Speaker 1: there and he's talking to to take and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wonder what that conversation is, Like he's like patting,
Speaker 1: I'm on the back, yeah, And I'm like, I wonder
Speaker 1: what that conversation is, Like, I wonder what exactly is
Speaker 1: being said in them home. It's probably nothing, but you
Speaker 1: could probably go and put some pretty funny lines that
Speaker 1: you could add to that conversation. Hey me, he can't
Speaker 1: right now anyway. That's he's like, I can't. I gotta
Speaker 1: wait till February. Although February soon enough. Yep, it's it's
Speaker 1: soon enough, all right, So let's let's flip back over
Speaker 1: to that other conversation. Actually, we do need to take
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Speaker 1: a couple of things to say this morning on his
Speaker 1: local on his show with the local radio station, The Fan,
Speaker 1: he did mention that Tyren Smith um looks like he
Speaker 1: should be able to come back this week against Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: That's a big thing for the Cowboys, I think, um,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that more as the week goes on.
Speaker 1: And we started talking about the matchups. But in addition
Speaker 1: that he also talked about Sean Lee and his statement
Speaker 1: was that Sean Lee is going to resume his role
Speaker 1: as a starter. Um, but he was the caveat he said,
Speaker 1: but we're not going to rush him back. So I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of things to take from that.
Speaker 1: What did you guys take from from that statement from Jerry? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems like, I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: have something to talk about, I guess. So, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the big debate. I was tweeting about it this morning.
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't bring myself to get worked up
Speaker 1: about this. If it was quarterback, I would understand. But
Speaker 1: for the millionth time since they drafted Layton Vanderesh, like
Speaker 1: you need three guys to play two spots, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who's listed on the program as the starter. Like
Speaker 1: I you know, I think they'll find a way to
Speaker 1: use them all. They'll rotate them. If that means that
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's on the field for the first series of
Speaker 1: the game, that's cool, because Layton Vanderesh has been too
Speaker 1: good to play a signal Like they're not just going
Speaker 1: to take him off the field, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I actually I was curious about this. I went and
Speaker 1: looked it up. From the time, you know, from the
Speaker 1: first time League got hurt, which is when vander Esh
Speaker 1: really took over and started playing well as a starter.
Speaker 1: They've only all been healthy for one game. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Sean came back for Washington and then he got
Speaker 1: hurt the next game like halfway through the Tennessee So
Speaker 1: they've only really been healthy. So the snap count in
Speaker 1: that game, there were sixty defensive snaps. Sean played thirty
Speaker 1: eight of them, Jalen played fifty eight of them, and
Speaker 1: Vanderesh played twenty one, which obviously that's a little low
Speaker 1: on the Vanderesh side, but that was also that was
Speaker 1: really before he kind of hit his stride, because it
Speaker 1: was the Eagles game where he really kind of announced
Speaker 1: himself and he's been playing great ever since. So I'm
Speaker 1: flipping that. Yeah, no, I I guarantee you, and we
Speaker 1: don't for we don't know if Sean will be available
Speaker 1: for this game. He said on Friday that he hopes
Speaker 1: to come back to practice this week. We'll see tomorrow. Um,
Speaker 1: but I you know, if they play sixty five snaps
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, I can't imagine Vanderesh playing less than
Speaker 1: forty of them. You know, I watched the Eagles and
Speaker 1: we'll get into their offense, I guess tomorrow. But but um,
Speaker 1: you know, it just looks like because you know, when
Speaker 1: you when you watch fantasy, when you have when you're
Speaker 1: playing fantasy football, and you see like you want to
Speaker 1: know who's on the field, and they actually on Monday
Speaker 1: nights show you every play. Like the guys that are
Speaker 1: out there, it's a lot of three receiver sets a lot,
Speaker 1: and so I think they might have found something with
Speaker 1: the Jordan Lewis thing playing in some dime, I could
Speaker 1: see that that happening a little bit more. And they
Speaker 1: don't have they don't have Kamara, but they've got a
Speaker 1: Sprowls and he's similar, you know, similar. I mean he's
Speaker 1: not the same as Kamara, but I mean he's he
Speaker 1: was he was at one point he was Kamara before.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the Saints have had four or five
Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean he wasn't as Smara gets
Speaker 1: the ball in the middle of the field more than
Speaker 1: than than you know, than I remember, like a Sprowls
Speaker 1: getting you mean runs up the middle, runs up but
Speaker 1: oh no, for sure. Yeah, and again they have a
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. Not sure why they don't give Ingram
Speaker 1: the ball and some of that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: He gets it plenty who Ingram? Yeah, he gets a plenty.
Speaker 1: I just I they're gonna they'll they will find they
Speaker 1: will find jobs for all of them, and having all
Speaker 1: three of them healthy for the home stretch can only
Speaker 1: be a good thing. Like, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I'll ask this question, Um, Sean Lee is a guy
Speaker 1: that before this year, I think he was probably regarded
Speaker 1: by most people as, if not the best in one
Speaker 1: of the two best players on this defense. Is there
Speaker 1: something that that vander esh and Jalen Smith can do
Speaker 1: that you don't think Sean Lee can do? Good question? Um,
Speaker 1: I would imagine at this at this point, and they're
Speaker 1: they're a little bit more athletic than he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're just they're freaks of nature and they're better tacklers
Speaker 1: in terms of the contact was made at the twenty
Speaker 1: five and the ball is now going to be spotted
Speaker 1: at the twenty five or the twenty six. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that Sean Lee goes on you know, piggyback
Speaker 1: rides and all that, but I'm saying just from a
Speaker 1: strength standpoint, those guys and Rolando McClean was better than
Speaker 1: Shan Lee at that as well. I mean, bigger, stronger.
Speaker 1: You know from the press box, that was a Rolando hit.
Speaker 1: That was a or Jalen hit. Sean doesn't provide those
Speaker 1: type of hits, but that's the one thing he does better,
Speaker 1: and then he's always overcome everyone else with his instincts.
Speaker 1: They have the instincts as well, so they're better linebackers
Speaker 1: than Shan Lee is. Right now, That's okay, I think so,
Speaker 1: But that's my question because I look at Sean Lee
Speaker 1: and I think he is a playmaking linebacker. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were many years that Sean Lee was the only guy,
Speaker 1: the only guy, one of the few guys on this
Speaker 1: defense that you could that could make a play for
Speaker 1: you and you needed it. And so I do think
Speaker 1: to some degree this is one of those situations where
Speaker 1: his injury status is clouding people's judgment about him as
Speaker 1: a player well and his injury status, and maybe he
Speaker 1: struggled a little bit because of that too, because honestly,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I agree with you like Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: His hits don't just jump off the tape at you
Speaker 1: the way that like a Jalen Smith does. But before
Speaker 1: this season, he was such a sure tackler, like if
Speaker 1: he got his hands on you, you were not going
Speaker 1: to break the tackle. And I remember him making tackles
Speaker 1: behind a lot of scrimmage with a guy didn't get
Speaker 1: an extra yard, he dropped it. He it's an art form,
Speaker 1: like he's the tackle for Lost King, and it's mainly
Speaker 1: instincts like that got it done for him. But this season,
Speaker 1: in the early going, when he was still healthy, like
Speaker 1: it kind of he seemed like you saw that slip,
Speaker 1: like miss tackles against Carolina, miss tackles in the Seattle
Speaker 1: game before he got hurt, which you know, chalk that
Speaker 1: up to more of an aberration because we've seen him
Speaker 1: been doing it for so long. But it was definite
Speaker 1: Seattle game. I thought he had about ten tackles in
Speaker 1: the first two drives. He probably did. I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember it being it feels like ancient history. But in
Speaker 1: September I remember multiple times being like, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: that's not what you're used to see him from Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee specific the Carolina game specifically, um and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think I think it's easy
Speaker 1: to forget how good a guy is when he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a chance to be out there making plays. To
Speaker 1: that point, the play you know, that that amazing play
Speaker 1: that Layton made in Philly on the screen, that's a
Speaker 1: shan Lee Like that's Sean Lee's play, and which was
Speaker 1: what made it so impressive. It's like, whoa, this guy's
Speaker 1: doing Sean Lee stuff at the age of twenty two.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So um, it's just hard to say because
Speaker 1: we haven't seen much of him this year, which that's
Speaker 1: a theme unfortunately. But that's also why I mean, when
Speaker 1: I look at it, I think this is much ado
Speaker 1: about nothing. If you've got three really good linebackers at
Speaker 1: all can make plays for you, the more the better.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have a problem with taking Layton or
Speaker 1: j Jalen off the field. It just means to me
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fresh, and all the three of them
Speaker 1: will be fresher than they would have been if it
Speaker 1: were just two that they were rotating in. I would
Speaker 1: like to it doesn't really, it doesn't concern me from
Speaker 1: that standpoint. This is a question for brought us. We
Speaker 1: should talk to him about this, but like, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1: You're gonna obviously rotating is good, I think, but you're
Speaker 1: not just gonna rotate arbitrarily like you're gonna have so
Speaker 1: who do you want in there? On third and long?
Speaker 1: Who do you want in there? It's you know, are
Speaker 1: you sure you're not? Just because it did seem like
Speaker 1: when they all three were playing, it would be like
Speaker 1: a series, this guy's in and in a series, this
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be out, and it seemed like they were.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like what they were running backs
Speaker 1: back And remember the drive that the Redskins scored, They
Speaker 1: drove down. It was the first drive of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: screen passed two bibbs bibbs and Layton wasn't really on
Speaker 1: the field. Sean started the game and they went down
Speaker 1: the field and scored. And that's really the only time
Speaker 1: that I believe that Washington drove the field and for
Speaker 1: at least for a touchdown. They might have drove down
Speaker 1: for some field goals, yeah, because their other touchdown was defensive.
Speaker 1: So I mean, and I just I remember tweeting about it, like, um,
Speaker 1: can we get Vanderesh out there where we weren't even
Speaker 1: doing that back then. That's that's how crazy this season is.
Speaker 1: Like this dude has a whole You see his girlfriend
Speaker 1: on Instagram last night the picture. Yeah did you see
Speaker 1: that cowboy's Christmas party? Everybody gets dressed up to the nines. Uh,
Speaker 1: Layton and his girlfriend took a photo and he draped
Speaker 1: a freaking wolf over his shoulders in the you know,
Speaker 1: you know, coming to America. Yeah, yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was like the head, the wolf head, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was I'm just like a badass. And last he
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, no, I couldn't quite wear
Speaker 1: it all the way here, Like I thought about, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've spent time around Layton vander Esch,
Speaker 1: like great guy obviously, like he's so enthusiastic and passion
Speaker 1: on the field, Like he's not like that, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's not that guy that's much more laid back,
Speaker 1: laid back, but like he's unassuming. He's from freaking Riggins, Idaho,
Speaker 1: Like he's not he could never call himself the wolf
Speaker 1: Hunter with a straight face. I don't think like if
Speaker 1: we named DeMarcus Lawrence the wolf Hunter, he'd be walking
Speaker 1: around T shirt. He would have a T shirt and
Speaker 1: he would say, call me wolf and he would have
Speaker 1: a wolf head. He would just big wolf medallion. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Layton, although Layton. Did you see Layton's ring? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does have a wolf ring, like it's a big
Speaker 1: gold wolf hid on a ring. I'm actually pretty cool
Speaker 1: that dude hits the crap out of people and has
Speaker 1: literally killed wolves, Like, I don't want to mess with him.
Speaker 1: And as great as Derwin James is playing right now,
Speaker 1: they're they're almost playing the same position because I saw
Speaker 1: several times the other than he is. He's up there
Speaker 1: playing like a linebacker. Um, remember he was drafted two
Speaker 1: spots ahead. It wasn't like the Cowboys had the choice three.
Speaker 1: Actually to think, I thought it was seventeen nineteen. Anyways, anyways,
Speaker 1: you're thinking right ahead, and the Cowboys would have had
Speaker 1: to move up for it. And that's actually important. Was
Speaker 1: it sixteen or seventeen? Because which draft pick do you
Speaker 1: have to let go? I think I think right now,
Speaker 1: even if you think James is better, there's no way
Speaker 1: James is better than him and Gallop. And you're saying, right,
Speaker 1: I think everybody. I mean, you know he's not gonna
Speaker 1: win offensive Rookie of the Year. About everybody is pretty
Speaker 1: encouraged by what Michael Gallup is doing. And I think
Speaker 1: I said after the like, in an alternate universe, Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup has like three hundred more yards and four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Like if Dak it just gets five plays go the
Speaker 1: other way like a Gallup a few Washington Saints game,
Speaker 1: I mean the Panthers game, that crossing route, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Michael Gallup. He's they're like easily
Speaker 1: left like two hundred yards on the field. But you
Speaker 1: can also think about it like this, if you didn't
Speaker 1: have Layton vandersch this season and Sean Lee did what
Speaker 1: he did, which typically happens when those injuries, where would
Speaker 1: this team be right now? If Jalen's out there and
Speaker 1: you've got Damien Wilson out there with him. Not nothing
Speaker 1: against Damian Wilson, but he's not Layton Vandrett and Jodha
Speaker 1: has been hurt too, So it's not like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's that would you would have been in a real
Speaker 1: pitch at linebacker had you not had Layton Vandersh Here
Speaker 1: staggering how well that plan came and he's really you know,
Speaker 1: when you think about the take Shawn Lee out because
Speaker 1: he's been hurt. The four best players on defense, this
Speaker 1: might be kind of harder. Four best players of Tank
Speaker 1: we know, Vandersch, Byron Jones, there you go, Jalen, and
Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of a toss up between him
Speaker 1: and Crawford. I think Crawford. I think Jayleen's probably here
Speaker 1: for the mccrawford's at close fifth. I love Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: to death, but he Jalen Smith is a freak right
Speaker 1: and and but Crawford played much better for his role.
Speaker 1: I think he's all right top five. And that's fine
Speaker 1: because where I'm going with this is that personality wise,
Speaker 1: and he fits right in the middle, you've got two
Speaker 1: guys that that like the camera, they liked to be
Speaker 1: out there, they liked him, I guess, yes, Tank and
Speaker 1: jal Yes, that's a great point. You've got two guys
Speaker 1: that they're they guy's personality, but they but they're they
Speaker 1: don't mind being quiet and laid back in both Layton
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones. And then Crawford's kind of in the
Speaker 1: middle him, Yeah, thanks pulling him. Yeah, he might be
Speaker 1: all in over, but those guys are good to have
Speaker 1: it's good to have a Layton that kind of does
Speaker 1: this thing. It's good to have. I mean, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what, Daniel Ross and Antoine Woods, they owe a
Speaker 1: lot of what they've been able to do to Jalen
Speaker 1: I mean Tank, I mean, he just kind of makes
Speaker 1: them part of the team and the and they thrive
Speaker 1: off it and they've played pretty good for those are
Speaker 1: those are those glue kind of guys that you just
Speaker 1: need him to play the role and play the role well.
Speaker 1: And that's what they are there are mind, I'm remind
Speaker 1: of a guy like Brandon Noble was never a great player,
Speaker 1: but he was one of those glue kind of guys.
Speaker 1: They end up getting a pretty good contract to be
Speaker 1: able to leave. But he's just a good, solid player.
Speaker 1: You need those kinds of the problems. He was the
Speaker 1: best player on the defense. He was He wasn't, but
Speaker 1: he was just he was just a good player that
Speaker 1: was in a position where he was asked to be
Speaker 1: the best player on the defense. That's the story of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jack Crawford and Terrell McLean were those guys
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and they went and got better
Speaker 1: contracts elsewhere. And if these guys keep playing that way,
Speaker 1: I'll probably happen for them too, you know, and real quick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have the time a little bit, so, but just
Speaker 1: we could talk about this another time. But you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you gotta give credit to to Will McClay,
Speaker 1: Jerry Stephen, Jason. You know that then they're drafting every
Speaker 1: one of those guys is a guy that's been drafted
Speaker 1: other than maybe David Irving who's not here, Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: and well, okay, you're right, but I mean, I they
Speaker 1: deserve credit for bringing those guys in. And yeah, they
Speaker 1: go and find a lot of those guys. Those are
Speaker 1: gems that they find that other people are kind of
Speaker 1: throwing away. So but mean, swell Field is a good example.
Speaker 1: But the drafting of of you know, DeMarcus Lawrence and
Speaker 1: yeah Layton and jay Len, I mean, those are moves
Speaker 1: that you're like, sure, we want to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and look and Cheeto and those guys and
Speaker 1: look what it's got them Woods. Yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: graphic I think in the Eagles game. Woods is the
Speaker 1: only guy that's playing a meaningful role for this team
Speaker 1: that wasn't found in offense or defense. Just defense, just defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but still it's huge. That's huge. All right, We appreciate you, guys,
Speaker 1: Joan us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll start breaking down
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