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Speaker 2: He ain't agreed as your boy in O R He's
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Speaker 3: What up is d J e f N.
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Speaker 3: Make something. Got a co host today? Who's our co
Speaker 3: host today? Yo? We have a co host today? This
Speaker 3: is this is an all are you finn? He he?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: My name graf baby? That's right?
Speaker 4: And what's the name of the oh? The members on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 1: DJ ain't grab only show.
Speaker 6: But this brother here that we got today, thank you.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you. He has been an
Speaker 6: industry inside. He has been giving y'all game.
Speaker 5: Beyond game, beyond game beyond game.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of y'all people might think, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes if you if the person is not
Speaker 6: in front of the camera, the person thinks that the person.
Speaker 5: Is capped or or they're like, oh, okay, we don't know.
Speaker 3: I know this brother right right right.
Speaker 6: I know how much he's worked, has he put in,
Speaker 6: I know how much the industry respects him. So today
Speaker 6: we are gonna give this brother his flowers. He is
Speaker 6: going to receive exactly what y'all don't know about him
Speaker 6: in the industry. And I'm gonna we are personally gonna
Speaker 6: give this brother his flowers he deserves. He's a he's
Speaker 6: a legend, he's an icon, he's a and we're gonna continue.
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna make sure that he get his
Speaker 6: fucking flower today because I know who hold on, let
Speaker 6: me let me get right now.
Speaker 5: I know exactly who you are.
Speaker 6: Now I look at your comments and people are like, okay,
Speaker 6: So a lot of times people don't understand that being
Speaker 6: in front of the camera sometimes it is not as
Speaker 6: important to being behind the camera. Right, So I credit
Speaker 6: people like you, like you you were behind the camera,
Speaker 6: but you would like campaign for me being in front
Speaker 6: of the camera.
Speaker 3: We're advocates for the artist.
Speaker 6: Advocates for the artists, and so a lot of times
Speaker 6: when I see I see you fire like a motherfucker
Speaker 6: and I'm looking and I gotta defend you because I'm like, no, he's.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's really so I be like, he's really
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: He's really like the inside And a lot of people
Speaker 6: don't know that because it wasn't cool back then to
Speaker 6: be in front of the camera.
Speaker 5: So let's let's take it from there.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I just want to tell you
Speaker 7: thank you man.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I want to know
Speaker 2: it something so like I don't think people understand. Like
Speaker 2: number one, I'm in the music business full time. This
Speaker 2: podcast thing is like a side thing that it's like
Speaker 2: a passion for me. So when I'm out and about
Speaker 2: and I see people, it's always interesting. So no bullshit,
Speaker 2: Like I knew it is a Virgo by the way,
Speaker 2: the two biggest, two of the biggest three podcasts with Virgos,
Speaker 2: Joe Budden and Norris.
Speaker 7: I always like, I'm like I'm coming.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I see I start walking through the BT
Speaker 2: Awards and I just see Nori, and he stopped me, like, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: I would have made a video on my Instagram like
Speaker 2: God is real.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's how serious.
Speaker 2: I was like yo, because I mean, I want to fly.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm just going I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: Nori know me. I'm telling y'all the biggest podcast to
Speaker 2: know me. He said, my name, ship's real.
Speaker 4: I don't to let you know that.
Speaker 3: So when I got to call it.
Speaker 4: From drink, I said, Valentine's Day on my wife. This
Speaker 4: is what I know. You're a warrior.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I deliberately said, this is the day before Valentine's Day.
Speaker 6: I deliberately said that to what's man, big d the
Speaker 6: weather man, I said, I said, yo, this is the
Speaker 6: day before Valentine's Day because me, you know, I'm scared
Speaker 6: of my wife.
Speaker 5: And I said that. But yo, but let me just
Speaker 5: tell you something. You have online created a whole different,
Speaker 5: a whole different.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say character because it's I know
Speaker 3: who you are, but.
Speaker 6: These people follow you, and so so let's let's let
Speaker 6: let's just take it from there, right, let's take it. Uh,
Speaker 6: there's so many people that want to crack into this
Speaker 6: industry and you talk to them, so let let's talk well,
Speaker 6: because when you want to be in this is like
Speaker 6: a dream, right. And I remember coming up, you know,
Speaker 6: I remember my first person I called this guy in
Speaker 6: Timmy Allen.
Speaker 7: I remember not knowing how to ask for him, you know.
Speaker 2: Like you know, you get somebody number, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: say is this miss Norrie Good. I'm like, hey, is
Speaker 2: this Timmy Allen? And he was like, who is this?
Speaker 2: I saw like a bill collector. So once I got
Speaker 2: his name and I started understanding. It was like David
Speaker 2: Gaffer said on this documentary, I saw people bullshit when
Speaker 2: I seen people around tim getting money in bullshit, and
Speaker 2: I said, I could do that. But I worked at Delta,
Speaker 2: so I know niggas and I'm a nigga.
Speaker 4: Yes, nigga.
Speaker 2: I worked at Delta. A lot of niggas have my
Speaker 2: name and the phone as Ray from Delta for my
Speaker 2: first five years because I knew niggas.
Speaker 4: Wanted to I.
Speaker 5: Was running the bags, nigga.
Speaker 2: So you know, when you're going to Atlanta and you
Speaker 2: got you going to Atlanta to Miami and you going
Speaker 2: through New York. I was a nigga, I got your
Speaker 2: plane and put it on Miami plane.
Speaker 7: I was a nigga that put it this. I was
Speaker 7: working at Delto.
Speaker 3: Still a niggas work.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, No, I ain't gonna lie man. I wasn't
Speaker 2: ship my whole life. That's what I love the most
Speaker 2: about you. No, let me tell you why. That sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 3: Want to tell me what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: When I watched Nori talk, Nori is just being Nori,
Speaker 2: like you became popular being yourself.
Speaker 4: Like. We came up in the industry where you gotta
Speaker 4: talk a certain way, you gotta.
Speaker 2: As Nord don't do that. And I'm watching Norri say
Speaker 2: ship do Ship. I'm like, and it works. So I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 2: we living in the new world. It's not it's not
Speaker 2: the old world. And more like niggas have to leave
Speaker 2: from the front. I remember, I remember coming up.
Speaker 4: In the business.
Speaker 2: You wanted to know Shakir Stewart. You wanted him to
Speaker 2: know your name. You wanted Kate p to know your name.
Speaker 2: They wanted Chris Hicks, they knew your name. That means
Speaker 2: you could eat in this business.
Speaker 3: So we want I remember.
Speaker 2: When I came into the business, and I'm thinking, like
Speaker 2: I'm finally in this shit, and I walking room and
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm seeing Ibody's president and nobody gave a fuck.
Speaker 2: It was like I'm chasing artists now. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I remember chasing the motherfuckers is in the game.
Speaker 7: Now I'm trying to get I'm in the game now.
Speaker 4: They're like yo.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, graph is hard. Yeah, but EFN got
Speaker 2: the numbers, Go get him. But no, but now instead
Speaker 2: of me going to Graph, well, I know I could
Speaker 2: build what I gotta bill with you because you got
Speaker 2: the numbers. So now I got to sell myself to you.
Speaker 2: So now I feel lame. Now I'm coming to you
Speaker 2: like yep, cause you know I'm only here. It's like
Speaker 2: a girl I got to BBL. Once you get the
Speaker 2: motherfucking BBL, nigga, I know you're on my ass now
Speaker 2: because I got a body. It's like, I know why
Speaker 2: you're here now because I'm hot.
Speaker 3: But when before that?
Speaker 2: So for me, my whole thing was and then I
Speaker 2: started noticing how people were just like making money talking
Speaker 2: about being in the business.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he's not in the.
Speaker 2: Business, Like I have the number one songwritter the biggest
Speaker 2: starting to run my partner here. We had the number
Speaker 2: looking up apt by Bruno, Mars and Rosie. That was
Speaker 2: about my nigga were still in this shit every day.
Speaker 2: So I see people chose like I'm like, I feel
Speaker 2: like a poor man. It was like I'm controlling traffic.
Speaker 2: It's like the club. When you wait outside the club,
Speaker 2: you see and you know it's a long line, and
Speaker 2: that's a trick.
Speaker 7: Sometimes, like hey keep the line, onybody inside.
Speaker 2: So I'm a.
Speaker 4: Nigga walking out the club like heyo, y'all.
Speaker 2: They tricking y'all. And then I realized nobody listened. Then
Speaker 2: it was like, oh ship. So for me, I just
Speaker 2: started like putting my ship out there. And like I said,
Speaker 2: it was really the industry that embraced me. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that people fuck with me. I really cared about Nori.
Speaker 2: I really cared about graph, I cared about I didn't
Speaker 2: care about regular no disrespect. I don't care about peons.
Speaker 2: You don't understand what I'm doing. You don't understand what's
Speaker 2: happening behind the scenes. You're just a spectator. So when
Speaker 2: I see Nori and he gave me props, nigga.
Speaker 4: That ship was.
Speaker 2: I made it moment. I don't even think when I
Speaker 2: saw y'all at the EU, y L think you was
Speaker 2: like gonna do the show? I called Mark. I was like,
Speaker 2: they said it, man, But I just can't. I just
Speaker 2: can't understand why they want to.
Speaker 4: Talk to a nigga like me because I'm because I'm still.
Speaker 2: Trying to prove myself in this world. But in the
Speaker 2: music world, when I walk into these labels, I'm that nigga.
Speaker 2: They can't fuck with me. And I'm a legend now
Speaker 2: because I got black Ball. So now this is all
Speaker 2: people don't understand.
Speaker 7: I got black Ball.
Speaker 2: That's why I did the podcast.
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, usually were saying wait till let's go, let's
Speaker 6: go right right, Okay.
Speaker 7: So so so two thousands for number one.
Speaker 2: I'm the number one nigg in the game. I'm the
Speaker 2: number one nigga at my label. I got all the hits.
Speaker 2: We're talking about Corner Records, So I turned in Sweetie Record,
Speaker 2: tap In and Sweetie Record best Friend it still hers.
Speaker 2: I saw Eilie Chopper, I saw I saw this kid
Speaker 2: named Rambo from the West Coast that was making a
Speaker 2: lot of noise and I was.
Speaker 7: Like the guy and then see vice president.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, the pandemic happens, and then
Speaker 2: the CEO does this thing where he does like an
Speaker 2: emergency call. And in the music business, they don't make
Speaker 2: what Aaron bashuk.
Speaker 4: He's a ceo, he does a he does a call
Speaker 4: like everybody get on the call right now fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking when our artist got killed, I'm like, niggas.
Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking, like somebody is about to be I'm
Speaker 2: like that to begin on, he was like, I just
Speaker 2: want to check on the black folks from the George
Speaker 2: Floyd thing, and I'm like, nigg what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: And then he goes like any black people on the
Speaker 2: call want to speak up about their struggles, and it
Speaker 2: was like three hundred of us. Everybody was quiet. So
Speaker 2: this is my friend. At least I'm thinking we're friends.
Speaker 2: I wrote them a letter like, YO, it's hard being
Speaker 2: black and this shit. I know what you're trying to do,
Speaker 2: but it's hard being one of us, so none of
Speaker 2: us are going to talk up. And I wrote the
Speaker 2: letter and basically I sent it to another black person
Speaker 2: at the company, like, YO, I think this would be
Speaker 2: good for us all to put our name on it.
Speaker 5: He was like, you on your own.
Speaker 2: By the way, he still got his job, so he
Speaker 2: was smarter, right. So I wrote the letter and then
Speaker 2: I sent it to Aaron. I didn't send it to
Speaker 2: him because they was the lawyer was like, it's a
Speaker 2: bad move. So I sent to Larry Jackson. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Larry Jackson for Mega that yeah, we're talking about
Speaker 2: Helve Jackson.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Apple.
Speaker 2: So I sent it to Larry and Larry calls me like, yo, Ray,
Speaker 2: this letter changed my life.
Speaker 5: I'm like really, And then he said good way, yes.
Speaker 2: Because he said that he sent it to he had
Speaker 2: a deal on the table, a whole lot of money
Speaker 2: Apple supposed to giving him. He sent my letter to
Speaker 2: the guy at Top Guy and they signed it that day.
Speaker 3: That's what's up.
Speaker 4: They signed it that day, so he said, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So they signed it that day. So now Larry is like, yo,
Speaker 2: I sent it to this lady at Billboard. They want
Speaker 2: to put on a cover Billboard. I'm like, I give
Speaker 2: a fuck. I'm a nigga in Atlanta, bro, I'm free.
Speaker 2: It's like being a Latino on Miami, Like you can't
Speaker 2: funk with me in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I'm insulated. You can't get to me.
Speaker 2: Nigga, I'm not afraid of white people like most people are, like,
Speaker 2: I'm just unafraid of white folks.
Speaker 7: So she was like, I don't want to put.
Speaker 5: Your name on this.
Speaker 2: I want to put your name on this because I'm afraid.
Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna come after you. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: who's going to come after me? I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling the black experience. So I put the
Speaker 2: letter out. It's changed my life, it changed my whole career.
Speaker 2: I'm literally the number one God. Put the letter out,
Speaker 2: which you mean like they put it on the cover billboard, maxilip.
Speaker 2: It goes viral, but it's anonymous, right. She didn't want
Speaker 2: to put my name, That's what she said. I don't
Speaker 2: want to put your name on it because I'm afraid
Speaker 2: people gonna come after you. And I'm like, Nigga, I'm
Speaker 2: not afraid of nobody. I'm Everything I do is with
Speaker 2: a good heart. I might not always do the right
Speaker 2: thing at that time, but my heart was in the.
Speaker 4: Best place behind it. So I wrote the letter.
Speaker 5: Went atymus.
Speaker 4: It goes crazy.
Speaker 7: It's like they wrote up Dear White It was called
Speaker 7: Dear White Execs. They wrote a Dear White exec for
Speaker 7: the Disney Company. It was like all these black people
Speaker 7: speaking up.
Speaker 2: So now here's what I want to tell everybody in
Speaker 2: the world because this is the lesson I learned.
Speaker 7: Because I'm a real nick number one.
Speaker 2: I wrote the letter and all my white friends, every
Speaker 2: white person I knew in the music industry because I
Speaker 2: was on fire. When I stepped out and said I
Speaker 2: did it, they called me and said they're gonna ask
Speaker 2: you for something. They're gonna ask you what you want
Speaker 2: get paid. All my niggas, my friends and black friends
Speaker 2: are calling me like, Yo, thank you, bro. That was
Speaker 2: some hero shit you did. So now I get on
Speaker 2: the call with Aaron and the guy at the other
Speaker 2: guy time and they're like, what do you want? And
Speaker 2: I said nothing, man, I just want to I didn't
Speaker 2: write that.
Speaker 4: That wasn't your intention.
Speaker 2: My That's why I'm okay with the outcome. But my
Speaker 2: intent wasn't that. So they was like, what do you want?
Speaker 2: I was like, I just want y'all to know how
Speaker 2: this is to work with black people, right. And then basically,
Speaker 2: now this is when they did me dirty. This is
Speaker 2: basically what happens is in the music business. When you're
Speaker 2: in the contract and anybody knows this, they give you
Speaker 2: six months. So if NOI is my seeing vice president,
Speaker 2: I know I'm not gonna sign Norri. I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: Norri and his a lawyer know six months out, Yo, Norri,
Speaker 2: I ain't getting new contract, bro, Take the next six
Speaker 2: months go find some work. That's not what they did
Speaker 2: to me. They called me, Yo, don't go nowhere. You're
Speaker 2: the best guy we got. I know I am, so
Speaker 2: I'm believe in them. They called my lawyer Ray is
Speaker 2: our guy. And what they was doing they was lolla
Speaker 2: buying me to death to get to the secret. The
Speaker 2: two before my contract was up, I'm waiting on a
Speaker 2: new contract, thinking I'm still working. Two days before my
Speaker 2: contract over, there was like nothing's coming, nigga.
Speaker 7: I went home. That's why I loved Kanye so was.
Speaker 2: I went home and I cried every day listening to
Speaker 2: the Donda album because I couldn't believe that I put
Speaker 2: my I don't I'm already good, bro. I didn't need
Speaker 2: to write that letter, but I also felt like it
Speaker 2: needed to be said. So once I saw that play out.
Speaker 2: I was like, think about my business now. Now I
Speaker 2: don't have a job. So what I got to do?
Speaker 7: Call niggas nor I need a job? What Norrie gonna say?
Speaker 5: What happened to you?
Speaker 2: So now I got to explain myself. They put me
Speaker 2: on my heels. So I said, I'm smarter than every
Speaker 2: nigga over there. I'm better than every hand and I
Speaker 2: know how to talk. So somebody asked me a question,
Speaker 2: that's how we get my next job? That was literally it.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 2: Graf asked me a question, you're right, what's the difference
Speaker 2: to your manager? And an investor asked me, I answered,
Speaker 2: put that out. I'm hoping to get a job, nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm not even That's why when you acknowledge me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: y'all acknowledged I'm not a y' I don't understand, like
Speaker 2: I'm really trying to still go run a company right now,
Speaker 2: and that's what I'm really made to do. But I
Speaker 2: started talking online and all of a sudden, Puff posted
Speaker 2: my shit and it just changed everything for me. Puff
Speaker 2: posted me and just left me on his page for
Speaker 2: three days. It shouted in for that, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I know people like to kill people in they down,
Speaker 2: but I'm alway shotting bigga out for change. I'm always
Speaker 2: represent a nigga that did something for me. So when
Speaker 2: Puff posted me, that's when they're kind of getting hot.
Speaker 2: But Nigga, I'm still in the music videits full time,
Speaker 2: so I don't even know what I'm really doing on
Speaker 2: the podcast space. That's why I was like when Noy
Speaker 2: recognized me, I'm like, maybe this is God telling me, yes, nigga, that.
Speaker 7: Shit you're doing is working. Le Red calls me yo,
Speaker 7: that shit you do.
Speaker 2: But for me, it was weird because I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: like a nigga playing basketball his whole career. He the
Speaker 2: number one nigga. Now you're trying baseball and everybody like
Speaker 2: you're doing good over there. I'm like, nigga, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to I'm trying to get paid to play a sport. Though, no,
Speaker 2: you look good right there swinging that back. Basketball ain't
Speaker 2: your sport. So it's always so it's been that So
Speaker 2: when I see people like Nori, when Joe Budden, people
Speaker 2: like Wallow that actually like I know you, that shit
Speaker 2: made me feel that shit is like all I needed
Speaker 2: from God.
Speaker 3: I can relye to you.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to say that to.
Speaker 2: Y'all because we all superheroes. We sometimes we don't know.
Speaker 2: NOI just being norrid, y'all. I know you, he don't know.
Speaker 4: He made he confirmed what God needed me to hear
Speaker 4: that Mom that I'm on the right.
Speaker 3: Pal you but you are, thank you.
Speaker 4: So I just want to say that.
Speaker 2: So that's when I started talking online. I was just
Speaker 2: talking to hopefully get a job because I'm the best
Speaker 2: at doing that.
Speaker 7: But it's like they were scared of me. Nobody called me.
Speaker 2: But I still got more records, I still got more hits.
Speaker 2: I and that nigga right there, Tron Thomas had more
Speaker 2: hits than everybody on the Warning staff his half since
Speaker 2: I left. And I just want to sit it on
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying to be disrespected on saying the
Speaker 2: thing you would think they would call us.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 7: They rather fuck with the people who's easy people.
Speaker 6: So let me ask you real quick, do you really
Speaker 6: really really think.
Speaker 3: That rock relation? Let's go. I went to Joey Krack
Speaker 3: that said, Cole, No, we think that.
Speaker 7: No, this is what I think happened. Because I do podcasts.
Speaker 2: I think Joe I think we all talk, you know,
Speaker 2: like camera's not rolling, we talk about ideas what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Not before they off camera. Yoant to talk about.
Speaker 2: Joe saying something like, y'all really like I really want
Speaker 2: to get that cold man, but I know he family.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, so I might chill.
Speaker 2: I can see him saying, nah.
Speaker 3: He ain't family like that no more.
Speaker 2: Really, because Joe said, I need that hundred million in
Speaker 2: my mind. You know this story, you know, you go
Speaker 2: to that place in our life, you, not me, not you,
Speaker 2: but me and you because you and DJ it's different.
Speaker 2: They want to talk to you, but.
Speaker 4: You and me.
Speaker 3: We have to go.
Speaker 5: We have to get in the room.
Speaker 2: Yo's service is this So when you go and when
Speaker 2: Fat Joe says, I don't fuck with j Cole rather
Speaker 2: than I fuck with him, Fat Joe is picking Fat
Speaker 2: Joe the podcasting. He's not thinking like Fat Joe because
Speaker 2: Fat Joe the artist will want the record with Cole,
Speaker 2: but Fat Joe so he picked the podcast. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, by the way, I think he's amazing. I
Speaker 2: think he's he's gonna be so big at it. But
Speaker 2: I do believe that somebody said you, I think you
Speaker 2: should because I say shit out loud, and then they.
Speaker 7: Be like, I don't think you should say that, or.
Speaker 4: I think you should.
Speaker 6: You want me to tell me j Cole and Kendrick
Speaker 6: could have left to some life death.
Speaker 5: Like life deaferent like.
Speaker 3: Betwen Cole and Kendrick.
Speaker 4: I don't think that would have gotten that far, not
Speaker 4: between them.
Speaker 6: But you're making my point that I'm trying to say.
Speaker 6: It's no, no, hear me out. You're making my point.
Speaker 6: Is what I'm trying to say is it's never them.
Speaker 3: That's how you're about to say that.
Speaker 5: It's the people that stand.
Speaker 6: And the people that are standing behind them wants to
Speaker 6: make a point that's true and they will kill.
Speaker 5: Tupus murderers and Biggie's murderers. Wasn't Biggie.
Speaker 3: It was the people that were standing.
Speaker 7: Next to that'm trying to prove themselves.
Speaker 6: So when Jake Cole did that, me, as a black man,
Speaker 6: as an artist, I said, no, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: Got you. But as a black man.
Speaker 6: That's understood and understands what's going on in society, that
Speaker 6: understands that, I.
Speaker 3: Agree with j Cole. Bro I did.
Speaker 6: I was like, Yo, he took a stance. Is it popular? Noah,
Speaker 6: It's not popular, right No? But what was Tupac's popular.
Speaker 5: Was was was was Biggie?
Speaker 6: Like I know, I know all of these guys right
Speaker 6: from Biggie and Tupac's murder.
Speaker 4: I know him all.
Speaker 3: Right, I get it. That's real ship.
Speaker 5: So I understand j Cole's.
Speaker 4: Back to the Joe part of it though about him
Speaker 4: on the podcast even but.
Speaker 2: Even but even then, like but even then, like the
Speaker 2: way Joe spoke about j Cole was like he was.
Speaker 6: A battle just as an artist, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But you know, and so so hit me out.
Speaker 1: He was looking at me out right as in terms
Speaker 1: of hip hop and the culture and battle rapping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't do the right thing. But as a black man,
Speaker 1: if he wanted to protect himself or Kenjick, is where
Speaker 1: it could it go? I get it as a black man.
Speaker 4: As.
Speaker 1: I want to say this, does MC call my name?
Speaker 1: I'm ripping your head off.
Speaker 6: But guess what. Guess what, as dot see, you don't
Speaker 6: claim no motherfucking nationality, right right.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's if that's true.
Speaker 3: You don't claim that's what if you really.
Speaker 6: Know, I'm sorry. You really appreciate being who we are
Speaker 6: and know where it can lead to.
Speaker 1: IM about to say that you got to be prepared
Speaker 1: for where it could go because it can always go left,
Speaker 1: and to say the truth, the most likely event, because
Speaker 1: we got such big egos and be so sensitive about
Speaker 1: our art, it most likely it will go left. You
Speaker 1: got to be prepared. Don't go let Jacob was going,
Speaker 1: we probably knew, like I want to go back to
Speaker 1: l A and whatever. He probably he probably just knew.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need you want the drama because
Speaker 1: I don't need. But like if nobody wants drama, it's stressful.
Speaker 1: You don't choose drama just unless you just out.
Speaker 5: Of your mind.
Speaker 4: But if it come and you ready to handling situation.
Speaker 3: That MC and him was ready to do some m
Speaker 3: C ship but then he saw.
Speaker 4: Its like where he is going.
Speaker 3: He read his car.
Speaker 2: He's like, let's I'm with him because I'm not balaning nobody.
Speaker 2: Like if me and grabbed that problem, I want to
Speaker 2: call him. I don't if he says something.
Speaker 3: That's how you really.
Speaker 2: Felt, really just I'm just too real but human being,
Speaker 2: I'm just like yo, like that's why I feel j
Speaker 2: Cole because I really think that Drake and Kendrick was
Speaker 2: doing this on some fun play ship, like let's do
Speaker 2: it for the culture, and it got ugly. He was like,
Speaker 2: he was like, you, I don't I don't think.
Speaker 3: I do think that they thought it was gonna.
Speaker 7: Go that far.
Speaker 8: It was friendly, but I think they were ready for
Speaker 8: it to go that far as an m C.
Speaker 4: Friendly.
Speaker 6: You're correct too, You're not wrong, but you're not wrong.
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is as there was friends, that
Speaker 6: ship was.
Speaker 4: Bubbling as they were. It was bubbling, but that's my thing.
Speaker 7: But we did, but they never said it.
Speaker 3: That's I mean when you.
Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Kendricks a freestyle on.
Speaker 4: The BT a ward years ago?
Speaker 7: Wasn't he talking to Drake with all the hogho.
Speaker 9: Ark?
Speaker 7: Let me explain, I got you. That is the MC world.
Speaker 4: Bro in the MC world, I hear bars different than
Speaker 4: regular people.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're talking about nobody. Even when he said,
Speaker 2: ain't no big three, it's just big me. I didn't
Speaker 2: know until I heard saying we the big three. I'm like,
Speaker 2: but that was a direct shot.
Speaker 4: I was a shot. So it's like and the mcs
Speaker 4: that know each other, they know they talking and coach
Speaker 4: to each other. That's my point.
Speaker 3: So they was taking I went back.
Speaker 2: You say some ship, ain't you. I can't forgive you
Speaker 2: for ship. I'm a brog. I can't hold on.
Speaker 6: Let me say one thing. I respect every move that
Speaker 6: you made. And let me just say this.
Speaker 3: This is me. Y'all can refute me.
Speaker 6: I knew when he engaged into the battle, and then
Speaker 6: I knew when he got out of the battle. When
Speaker 6: he got out of the battle was I did see
Speaker 6: you know the Luxel hotel where Tupac drove off, and
Speaker 6: I saw that and for that, you know Tupac, that
Speaker 6: was September third, I'm born September sixth.
Speaker 3: I always look at that like a downfall for hip hop.
Speaker 5: Me too.
Speaker 4: Hip hop hasn't recovered since we have no and hasn't
Speaker 4: learned to lessen.
Speaker 2: And hip hop has recovered since the Drake Kendrick thing
Speaker 2: either like we can't like we are not a place
Speaker 2: where like hip hop is in the worst place ever
Speaker 2: because of the giants fought each other. Yes, giants usually have.
Speaker 2: It's like you know they are let me tell you.
Speaker 4: They are correct.
Speaker 3: They rolling out.
Speaker 2: They are rolling loud Friday night, cold, Saturday night, Drake,
Speaker 2: Sunday night, Kendrick.
Speaker 7: Think about that. That means that every.
Speaker 2: At the top, you know them little names under all
Speaker 2: those little names, benefited from that day.
Speaker 7: Because I'm on.
Speaker 2: The same ticket as Kendrick, we don't have none of
Speaker 2: that ship no more so, in my opinion, I think
Speaker 2: that like I think that it was playing. They thought
Speaker 2: it was like doing for the culture. They grew up
Speaker 2: in hip hop different. I'm forty six, I'm I was
Speaker 2: sixteen with PAWDD, so I grew up knowing how seriously,
Speaker 2: I remember watching The Wars when Dre said it, So
Speaker 2: I think that they got to this place where they's like, yo,
Speaker 2: let's do it for the culture.
Speaker 4: Like those other guys there were friends. What the first
Speaker 4: what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that's the way with
Speaker 3: it person as a rapper, like, I'm on this side
Speaker 3: and y'all.
Speaker 4: I would like it to be that.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, because I'm an MC in the
Speaker 1: street guy, right, So I look at it in two ways.
Speaker 1: I understand why j Cole did what he did, and
Speaker 1: I actually I was telling my man this the other day,
Speaker 1: the street part of my brain. I wish that Drake
Speaker 1: did that in the beginning too. I was the first
Speaker 1: say that because I was like, when you battle somebody,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I'm telling you. Why when
Speaker 1: you battling somebody in the hip hop shit right, we
Speaker 1: street niggas, so we know it could always go left,
Speaker 1: and most likely it will. You gotta look at this
Speaker 1: scenario and say, is this rap no?
Speaker 5: Is this street?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: If it goes too far, can I handle it? Am
Speaker 1: I ready for what comes after? The after I put
Speaker 1: this this verse out. If you know in the back
Speaker 1: of your mind it's a fight that you might not
Speaker 1: win or you don't really want to engage in. You
Speaker 1: got to play chess and figure out the slick way
Speaker 1: to get out of that ship if you're not ready
Speaker 1: for that smoke, because she could get physical.
Speaker 7: So I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: This why I look at it different, like I want
Speaker 1: to go there.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go all the way.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The way Drake's taking it, like the seriousness the lawsuit.
Speaker 5: You think in his mind, he he knew he was gonna.
Speaker 3: Do all that going.
Speaker 7: I don't think he thought that he hit me out.
Speaker 3: You go into a.
Speaker 2: Battle, now you got to think about how far I'm
Speaker 2: willing to go. That's that's why when no, then he said, Carmen,
Speaker 2: that was you went too far saying somebody name bro
Speaker 2: like it was like you.
Speaker 4: I just disagree with that. I don't feel like there's no rules.
Speaker 2: Because but you, I'm bad at you and I and
Speaker 2: I and I smashed the baby moms.
Speaker 4: That's the first artist by the code. You're wrong that
Speaker 4: you can't battle.
Speaker 3: You're wrong, like because yeah, because because in in in
Speaker 3: the art of battle, like you.
Speaker 5: It should be art.
Speaker 4: But that's no rules. There's one of them, and then
Speaker 4: there's the artists that engage in battling. That's two different worlds.
Speaker 3: That's that's they don't understand the rules.
Speaker 4: That's true when it's a street.
Speaker 1: When it when it came his story and it most
Speaker 1: likely will, the rules is gone only rules. There is
Speaker 1: no woman in kids in terms of physical ship.
Speaker 4: But if if I'm hadding.
Speaker 1: You and I smashed the baby moms.
Speaker 4: It's going in the first balls.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, yeah yeah, but starting with that, we had
Speaker 6: irv Gotti gonna happen. I love her got the one mean,
Speaker 6: but the first four seconds he was saying it was
Speaker 6: like I was wrong.
Speaker 1: But he talked about that's not a battle rap dated.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about battle rapout. This is the battle rap No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was what you So let me tell what I
Speaker 1: say something like that.
Speaker 3: You're making it about.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you some when you fucking somebody,
Speaker 2: that's a secret. No matter what happened, it's a secret.
Speaker 2: Like like if I see somebody fucking before, like twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, we got a secret together.
Speaker 3: We ain't gonna tell nobody.
Speaker 2: So he jay, I think with the nazing, the reason
Speaker 2: why everybody was now because he bothered him and her relationship.
Speaker 3: Well that well, I agree with that's what That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That mean as a human nigga, it's like you we
Speaker 2: learned our lessons.
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm just saying I don't think like the
Speaker 4: big and pop thing.
Speaker 2: Them niggas hate. They they was real war each other went,
Speaker 2: it's a battle. They was like, let's do it for
Speaker 2: the culture. I think probably got word that many probably
Speaker 2: got word that it was going go a little deeper.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know what both of your niggas
Speaker 2: my friends. I'm a chill and he chilled.
Speaker 1: But I think, like I think Cole probably chilled in
Speaker 1: my opinion because it's not got spoken about it. But
Speaker 1: I think he chilled because he realized what could it
Speaker 1: was the raifications of the ship and the stress that
Speaker 1: beef and general brings. It's nobody wants.
Speaker 4: I don't think that was beef, though I thought it
Speaker 4: was about It wasn't beef.
Speaker 5: It could go with him again, I don't think it
Speaker 5: was beef.
Speaker 1: But where it could go, but we could go, is
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I think he sold like this
Speaker 1: can get ugly and I don't want that. I'm friends
Speaker 1: with this man in real life. I don't want it
Speaker 1: to go where it could go, and it might go.
Speaker 1: He might know what he's he will in the right
Speaker 1: he was like, damn what the sun stated this back?
Speaker 1: I gotta pay this back.
Speaker 4: They could go left. I mean, in two seconds, it
Speaker 4: almost felt like two artists that grew up seeing what
Speaker 4: happened to Big Park right and said we could take
Speaker 4: it that far, but not that far exactly what you
Speaker 4: got like that learned the lesson, I think, and I
Speaker 4: think that they probably said we ain't gonna hurt each other,
Speaker 4: but I might say some motherfucking words you want gonna
Speaker 4: like today. And when he says pedophile, Drake is like, hold.
Speaker 3: On, brother, he went too fucking far now with probably friends.
Speaker 5: That's that.
Speaker 2: That is no longer a joke. You're no longer joking
Speaker 2: on me, bro, you went too far by calling me.
Speaker 2: That is different.
Speaker 4: And he said, I'm not your fucking friend anymore. And
Speaker 4: that's what happened. I don't think he said I'm assuming universal.
Speaker 2: Because y'all are letting him say this like he don't understand.
Speaker 2: It was a joke. It was just how we talk
Speaker 2: in the streets.
Speaker 1: But then it't start say he beat. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you, yo that the battle rap brain, there's no
Speaker 1: rules in war. Niggas is not playing nice.
Speaker 3: And Drake is a fan of battle.
Speaker 2: And if I was about to tell you he's missing
Speaker 2: his Drake nor Kendrake nor j call the battle rappers.
Speaker 3: They are artists that can really rap.
Speaker 1: And they know they soul.
Speaker 5: They are.
Speaker 3: Realized that Drake is a big fan of battle. It
Speaker 3: is impossible would Drink to be a battle rapper. What
Speaker 3: way he's got here right now?
Speaker 10: He started when he's acting right now, he's not a
Speaker 10: battle rapper. Well, I said that that was that personally,
Speaker 10: that's not battle rap. Battle rap is you touch me,
Speaker 10: you up, you say whatever you want, say whatever you want.
Speaker 10: Care but this nigga taking it personal. I'm telling you
Speaker 10: he's taking.
Speaker 2: It personal because that was really his friend and he
Speaker 2: was like, Bro, you took it too far.
Speaker 4: Man. That's how they talk, like like bros.
Speaker 3: Okay, listen.
Speaker 4: But he got that top drink. I'm like, there's some
Speaker 4: ship right now.
Speaker 3: I'm telling ship right now.
Speaker 4: Is in let's go.
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm gonna be honest. I love I love
Speaker 5: Drake and.
Speaker 6: Jack's battle. We're being honest too. This this is might
Speaker 6: have been the best battle.
Speaker 1: That was a good yeah period period both Kevin, especially
Speaker 1: when they were going back and forth dropping songs by
Speaker 1: the hour.
Speaker 4: I was like this, bro, Bro, that was the peak
Speaker 4: of hip hop. That was to me. It was like.
Speaker 3: That we saw on social media as well. In the
Speaker 3: real time. For my birthday.
Speaker 4: I'm in Vegas my birthday and my son calls me.
Speaker 4: It's twelve.
Speaker 3: It's nine o'clock our time.
Speaker 7: He's sixteen.
Speaker 3: Dad.
Speaker 2: You hear Drake, Drake your drop because my son is
Speaker 2: a Drake staying he likes you, you can't tell him ship.
Speaker 4: He thinks Drake is gone, like you need a record
Speaker 4: drink drop And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, so you need some doctor. See your son, my son,
Speaker 3: I'm like your dad, little nigga, and your son he's
Speaker 3: like na.
Speaker 4: He took by the way, my son time that ship personal.
Speaker 2: People really took it personal when Drake lost the battle,
Speaker 2: like my son. Really, they ain't got over that ship.
Speaker 2: But that was the peak, that was the moment. It
Speaker 2: was a Saturday. If it was a fucking satur niggas,
Speaker 2: I'm on a night, I'm eating dinner at National Restaurant.
Speaker 6: We can't say Drake lost the battle. This to east
Speaker 6: the zoom. I mean right, he lost that ship.
Speaker 1: Though against as soon as I heard they're not like us.
Speaker 4: But let me take it.
Speaker 3: What's crazy.
Speaker 1: It goes back to my statement about.
Speaker 4: Rules and wall.
Speaker 1: When I first heard they not like us, right.
Speaker 3: Check it.
Speaker 4: I heard what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Besides the pedophile ship that put out the most everybody
Speaker 1: else me is a street nigga. I heard him turning
Speaker 1: Cali against the nigga. I said, Atlanta, I said, you let.
Speaker 4: Him check check, check check.
Speaker 1: It is important you let him turn the battle from
Speaker 1: Drake first, Kendrick to Drake versus Cali. I was like,
Speaker 1: my nigga, if I was you when I heard this song,
Speaker 1: I would probably make a video talking like I fuck
Speaker 1: with Cady. I just sink fucking with a boy. Let's not,
Speaker 1: let's not, let's not. I don't want to lose a state.
Speaker 1: I'm battling a dude, a rapper, not a state. He
Speaker 1: that was a chess move. He took his whole state
Speaker 1: with you. He from you, I mean, turned Atlanta on you.
Speaker 1: He called the names right like.
Speaker 7: He like that was That's why I said I was
Speaker 7: a big chess.
Speaker 4: Chess move I seen I was like against Canada. That
Speaker 4: was such a chess move.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you know we aretist signed to me
Speaker 2: when he was in Atlanta with me when this she
Speaker 2: was like, I would have got here in the car
Speaker 2: me eleven eleven my artists.
Speaker 7: He's like, yo, bro. He beat a nigga up in
Speaker 7: the club that night when he.
Speaker 2: Was in front of the club, I'm lying, I lie
Speaker 2: my girl right there. He beat a nigga in the
Speaker 2: club up because he was like, I'm tired of people
Speaker 2: think of Toronto soft.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm like, no, nobody think Toronto soft. But let
Speaker 2: me just say this, Drake, you should have known better.
Speaker 2: I got so many cardinal officials, My brothers, they and
Speaker 2: friends are nice ass guys that I would let stay
Speaker 2: in my house.
Speaker 7: They could, they could bring their kids stay.
Speaker 4: In my house.
Speaker 3: CALLI.
Speaker 2: Niggas do Burke pees on the fucking block.
Speaker 3: They fuck it. It's all they do.
Speaker 2: Bro, you shouldn't have battled them, bro, like it's only thing.
Speaker 2: Was like, by the way, I think, I personally think
Speaker 2: Drake has a better catalog than Kendrick. I think Kendrick
Speaker 2: is more gifted as an artist, but I listened to
Speaker 2: Drake music more so I'm more of a Drake fan,
Speaker 2: but I respect what Kendrick does.
Speaker 7: I'm Drake fran. I'm like, yo, I don't think you
Speaker 7: should fight that.
Speaker 5: I don't think you.
Speaker 7: Should do that.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 7: Plus, you gotta go to Canada. You gotta go to La.
Speaker 7: You get your money in La.
Speaker 5: He don't get no money in Canada.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: When y'all land, when y'all land on the plane, don't
Speaker 2: think that them niggas don't got niggas at TSA like yo,
Speaker 2: such and such, just laying from Drake Crew, Nigga's la.
Speaker 2: They got a whole network out there. They three hours
Speaker 2: behind us. They kept the rules in Wolf if you
Speaker 2: think like that.
Speaker 1: If he was thinking like that in the beginning, he
Speaker 1: might have been like, I'm not going to detain this
Speaker 1: battle because I gotta go to Cali. Unless you want
Speaker 1: to go to wall You gotta think all the way left.
Speaker 1: You can't just be like, oh, it's the battle, we're friends,
Speaker 1: nahu all that's on the street.
Speaker 4: He could have battled by ignoring and just putting out
Speaker 4: a hit record.
Speaker 1: Did he heard the Big three line said it's not
Speaker 1: good enough, come harder, and it's left it like that?
Speaker 4: Then it would have went away. You would have still
Speaker 4: been a nigga.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you run and play chess back.
Speaker 1: He out smart as you.
Speaker 4: Hip hop has we We we appreciate that they engage
Speaker 4: each other. I'm gonna talk to honestly. You said you
Speaker 4: said there was nothing positive. I think one of the
Speaker 4: main positive things that came out of is that hip hop.
Speaker 3: The youth. They engaged in lyrics again, they were yeah,
Speaker 3: they were picking apart the lyrics.
Speaker 4: It was amazing ciphering them, and I love that as
Speaker 4: an older hip hop and like, yo, now y'all we're.
Speaker 3: Doing we was doing you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: hadn't seen that in a long time.
Speaker 2: And then and then not like after they dropped, Think
Speaker 2: about it, when have we had anything good?
Speaker 5: The last thing exciting and hip hop?
Speaker 2: Cole just dropped out and he about to do three
Speaker 2: hundred thousand plus we we were having niggas do Yes,
Speaker 2: we have a niggas under one hundred thousand our stars
Speaker 2: right now. So to me, we kind of tricked ourselves
Speaker 2: out our position if you ask me, Like, hip hop
Speaker 2: gotta stop being so competitive. We gotta start being a
Speaker 2: little bit more collaborative like pop artists, absolutely, but.
Speaker 3: Hip hop is competitive.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't just say.
Speaker 3: He hit them.
Speaker 2: It's like black folks when we walk into the room,
Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out how to take each other out.
Speaker 7: We're trying to figure out like we don't.
Speaker 5: Need each other.
Speaker 3: And what I'm telling is that we.
Speaker 2: Got to start thinking more group economics, more group like nigga.
Speaker 2: I say good shit about everybody. Even now, I don't
Speaker 2: think I said nothing. People talk about how controversy. A
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm saying that controversy. I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 2: saying what I'll see as a coach.
Speaker 7: Like I'm like Joe said, Yo, y'all.
Speaker 2: Want a hundred million? Fuck it, Jake, And I was like,
Speaker 2: I wish you to say that. I'm listening, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: just heard you say. You basically say I want a
Speaker 2: hundred million. So fuck another artist, a fellow artist that
Speaker 2: can go and get you as a podcaster. But he's
Speaker 2: showing us where his head is at, and I think
Speaker 2: he should be there because he's just as good, if
Speaker 2: not better, as a.
Speaker 7: Podc casta means an artist.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we fal for the record, we
Speaker 2: have Fat joe last single with a Need on DJ Kelly.
Speaker 7: I bet Fat Joe didn't know that that that was.
Speaker 2: On the phone with his people working out the splits
Speaker 2: last year when he dropped direk in Toronto.
Speaker 4: Wrote that ship.
Speaker 7: So I want to see everybody win.
Speaker 2: But you got to ask, like when I'm in the room, Norie,
Speaker 2: I asked, I remember this.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say this. I never said this on record.
Speaker 2: I remember being in the room with no id and
Speaker 2: Cardinal officier and and Drake just dropped and I was like, gone,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this isn't gonna be the biggest artists in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 4: It was like, just drop one.
Speaker 7: I'm like, Nigga, he the cheat cold, he's beige.
Speaker 4: I'm raising beage kids, my nigga, So were you your kids?
Speaker 3: Are your kids?
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 2: My kids are beige. They a little bit of black,
Speaker 2: a little bit of white. Day my daughter's my daughter
Speaker 2: is non she's a K pop DMA hunter. She's bage
Speaker 2: were raising bige kids. So I'm looking at Drake, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you have Jewish, you have black, your dad's from the States. Nigga,
Speaker 2: you can do anything. Drake can do one dance. You
Speaker 2: literally had no nothing to stand in front of you
Speaker 2: in the world in your face, but hip hop caught you.
Speaker 2: The culture caught you. And I wish I was in
Speaker 2: the room as an American and say, we don't.
Speaker 3: Need that shit.
Speaker 2: What's the worst that Let's look at the best thing
Speaker 2: can happen in the worst, right, Okay, what do we
Speaker 2: think You're gonna get more popular after this battle?
Speaker 3: Them little white girls?
Speaker 4: I love you.
Speaker 7: Don't give a fuck about Kendrick.
Speaker 5: Don't give a.
Speaker 3: Fuck about what he's saying.
Speaker 2: You give it his worst powers, nigga.
Speaker 3: That's what I saw watching out these niggas. I mean
Speaker 3: want do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Artists called me, Everybody calls me for information, like Yo, Ray,
Speaker 2: what should I do?
Speaker 4: This is my scenario. I wish you would call me.
Speaker 4: I would tell him a bro number one Kendrick.
Speaker 2: I think Kendrick could beat you because he played he
Speaker 2: gonna play dirty and in you you Canadian, you're gonna play clean.
Speaker 2: Then niggas gonna play dirty. So nigga don't battle the
Speaker 2: nigga and then Kendrick might be a good kid. But
Speaker 2: he say a good kid.
Speaker 4: From what y'all a mad sh niggas.
Speaker 2: The mad niggas is around him, like let me and
Speaker 2: you gotta think about that. If you and nigga that
Speaker 2: ain't been cool with a nigga, I think about this.
Speaker 2: If you and a nigga ain't been cool with Kendrick
Speaker 2: because he don't answer your phone because you're baking them
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars six months ago and you need another
Speaker 2: end and you heard it over your nigga somewhere. I
Speaker 2: might just go take that change just to show Kencher
Speaker 2: he look, Bro, I'm still cool with you. That's why
Speaker 2: you gotta think I'm thinking like a war general that
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying. It's war.
Speaker 1: But that's why you see the points you made when
Speaker 1: when he when you said to him, if you was
Speaker 1: cool and you would have said, what do you gain
Speaker 1: from this battle? That's what I would have said.
Speaker 3: Respect? Check it. Respect.
Speaker 4: But look, if let's.
Speaker 1: Say Drake one, he probably would have beef and Cali.
Speaker 3: So are you winning? You know?
Speaker 4: When?
Speaker 3: Are you listening?
Speaker 2: But he was on a double like a back to
Speaker 2: back tall, you already won. I want to tell you
Speaker 2: you't get to celebrate that ship. Ship and he's up
Speaker 2: in this back. I want to tell you something to
Speaker 2: look at it. I want to tell you something to
Speaker 2: you colde. Let me ask you a question. Grab, I'm
Speaker 2: just being honest with you. My whole thing is is
Speaker 2: this is that is?
Speaker 4: I forgot my question.
Speaker 7: Man, I'm high.
Speaker 3: I forgot my question, y'all. I'm at what I know.
Speaker 8: To leave me alone, right, hilarious.
Speaker 6: I really wanted to give your flowers, bro, because you
Speaker 6: know why, there's a lot of people don't understand what
Speaker 6: you've been through. In this industry, bro, I saw it.
Speaker 6: Let me give your flowers.
Speaker 3: Let me give your.
Speaker 4: I saw it.
Speaker 5: I know who you are. I know, and I know
Speaker 5: the fact that you know a lot.
Speaker 6: More that you even don't put out.
Speaker 4: I know this, and.
Speaker 3: I would be remorse.
Speaker 6: I would be a fake person to not say like,
Speaker 6: I always wanted to give you your flowers. He always
Speaker 6: wanted to tell you how much, because you know why,
Speaker 6: in the industry we need to give people flowers. That's
Speaker 6: behind the scene. I'm glad you said that, you know.
Speaker 6: It's it's so many times there's people that don't get
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like they're over there, and.
Speaker 5: There's people like you who you know the industry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
Speaker 6: So I don't agree with every single thing you say,
Speaker 6: but I agree with.
Speaker 5: Ninety nine of this is you say.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you, bro, and by the way, thank you
Speaker 7: for real.
Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there and I'm liking your likes. But
Speaker 6: then I have to say to myself and I gotta say, man,
Speaker 6: I can't like his like secretly, I have to do this,
Speaker 6: by the way, that's real shit. So this is the
Speaker 6: reason why I wanted you to be here, because I
Speaker 6: really want you to know, like you're the secret beliefs
Speaker 6: of the industry.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Like there's so many people that's like him, right, that
Speaker 6: it is amongst the industry, because the industry has nothing
Speaker 6: to do with the people.
Speaker 5: That's in front of the camera.
Speaker 3: Bro. Right, that's the fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 5: It's mostly the rays of the business that really.
Speaker 2: Remember I'm on the number one hip hop podcast. In
Speaker 2: the word I'm gonna say this is important for black
Speaker 2: men to listen, all all men, minority men to the
Speaker 2: number one thing holding us all back from being great.
Speaker 7: It's the words emotional discipline.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: You have to be emotionally disciplined in this world to
Speaker 2: be successful as a black man.
Speaker 5: That's why I just look at like this.
Speaker 2: When we in the club and we all black, we all,
Speaker 2: we all, we all been in the club, and when
Speaker 2: a fight break out the club, use if niggas asked,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna go do? Yeah, you see bar
Speaker 2: fights all the time. White men just walk out their
Speaker 2: eyes bloody like oh he got me that day. But
Speaker 2: they have the emotional disciline and understand if I go
Speaker 2: to the car and do something, this might end my life.
Speaker 2: If I do something stupid, and to me, that's the
Speaker 2: one thing holding us back. Like even me, like I've
Speaker 2: been like, I've never said the story of being black
Speaker 2: ball until now. I was waiting to get on the
Speaker 2: biggest motherfucking platform to say their names. Nigga, I want
Speaker 2: you to be scared when y'all see you know why
Speaker 2: they don't expect that they see a nigga like me,
Speaker 2: and they count niggas like me out, Like where a
Speaker 2: nigga gonna go? Nigga, I'm from this ship, bro. I
Speaker 2: never had a teacher, my nigga. I learned everything watching.
Speaker 2: I learned every nigga. I learned everything watching. So for me,
Speaker 2: you know, when I saw this ship, I was waiting
Speaker 2: to get on here to say what I was thinking
Speaker 2: to say, Yeah, they black ball. I've never said I
Speaker 2: was black ball, but I was nigga. They can't black
Speaker 2: ball greatness nigga.
Speaker 3: Fact.
Speaker 2: So I tell everybody said a worry about what they
Speaker 2: think about you, focus on being fucking great. Can't stop greatness.
Speaker 2: You can stop a nigga. Thats trying, though, but nigga greatness.
Speaker 2: We've seen that. I'm a Knicks fan, Nigga. I want
Speaker 2: your Knicks fan, nigga. I seen my majority of kick
Speaker 2: we checked out. I cried every time we lost. I
Speaker 2: know you, when you see greatness, sometimes you gotta just
Speaker 2: go to it.
Speaker 6: I gotta apologize for everybody else's watching this. When you
Speaker 6: say you're a Knicks fan, that means not proud.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 4: You know, Knicks man.
Speaker 2: You the Knicks taught me about love. The Knicks taught
Speaker 2: me what love is as a Knicks fan. I'm not
Speaker 2: lying to you, bro. I've said a hundred times, like
Speaker 2: every time the season start.
Speaker 5: Fuck these niggas, man.
Speaker 2: Fuck these niggas. I'm tired of these niggas. I don't
Speaker 2: want to watch them. I want to be a Laker fan.
Speaker 2: I want to go for the fucking champions. And then
Speaker 2: I'll see a nigga try and running the ball.
Speaker 4: Keep going. I can't help it.
Speaker 3: I can't help it.
Speaker 7: That's the only from New York, nigga.
Speaker 2: I got it. I built a sixty thousand dollars New
Speaker 2: York basketball court at my crib.
Speaker 5: Nigga.
Speaker 7: I love the Knicks, bro, I can't help it. So
Speaker 7: I was a kid. I loved them.
Speaker 5: That's all I had in New York.
Speaker 2: As a kid was the Knicks. Watch we play touch
Speaker 2: football on the parks, nigga nigga New York. On a
Speaker 2: part tackle, we might get your ass killed. I know
Speaker 2: you play though, So yeah, so I learned a lot
Speaker 2: of love. I looked a lot about love from the
Speaker 2: Knicks because every year I cheered from But we're good
Speaker 2: this year, so hopefully we go far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get up to the fucking niggas.
Speaker 3: Let's go for the.
Speaker 4: Plap.
Speaker 8: But we cool with that, Miami he.
Speaker 4: But I just say, man greatness is, and so for me,
Speaker 4: I'll just focus on his greatness, bro.
Speaker 7: And that's why I look at this shit.
Speaker 2: So even when I talk like and I've said things
Speaker 2: that I regret, I've said things that I know. I
Speaker 2: only said one thing I regret and that was about
Speaker 2: it Shanty. I didn't like that one because they edited up. Well,
Speaker 2: we were talking about IRV Gotti and basically said, what
Speaker 2: people don't understand about me is that I'm a nigga.
Speaker 7: I'm a real nigga. So I talk like a real nigga.
Speaker 2: So they said, why do you think a Shanty got
Speaker 2: to IRV Gotti the way she did?
Speaker 4: Like IRV is that nigga. He was that nigga, he
Speaker 4: had all the bitches. Why did that one get to him?
Speaker 2: That's what they asked me, and I said, because he
Speaker 2: gave her his one cheat code. I got one cheek colde.
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna marry one motherfucker. I'm an marry.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take somebody to do the marry process. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get him remakes.
Speaker 5: And he picked a.
Speaker 7: Shanti and she't stay lord to him in his eyes,
Speaker 7: so that's what made him hurt.
Speaker 2: But it came off but I said, basically, he gave
Speaker 2: her the biggest cheat cold of all time. So it
Speaker 2: came up like I was disrespecting her, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was really saying, you know this, when youre a
Speaker 2: nigga graft, you're like, yo, somebody ill nor y'all. I
Speaker 2: got an opportunity for something a female artist. It's like,
Speaker 2: i'mnna give it to who I want to. If you
Speaker 2: give it to somebody that and they don't repay you,
Speaker 2: that shit hurts you more than anybody. Because IRV coun
Speaker 2: create another shanty, because if he could, he would have.
Speaker 7: My only chance to create a Shanzi was with you
Speaker 7: and now you not with me.
Speaker 2: So nigga, I know that feel to give your whole,
Speaker 2: your whole thing to somebody and they don't love you
Speaker 2: the way you think they should. So that's what I
Speaker 2: was saying, but it came out wrong. But everything I say,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much back. I support because I'm speaking from
Speaker 2: a good place, and I also admit I'm wrong. I
Speaker 2: was wrong about the damn shit I said, but I
Speaker 2: want to make it. I have a brilli important take.
Speaker 2: I want to say to y'all at the table and
Speaker 2: see what y'all think. I think that the reason why
Speaker 2: we're fucked up in black music is because of one moment.
Speaker 3: In history exactly.
Speaker 2: No, I'm serious, hit me out when Dame Dash cursed
Speaker 2: out Kevin.
Speaker 5: Lyles and Randy Aker, who works with us.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who RADIAKA was.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I knew Kevin Lowles was, and I think at that
Speaker 2: moment when he cursed out Kevin Lowles and we saw
Speaker 2: a president of a company again talked to like that
Speaker 2: nobody wants to be an executive no more.
Speaker 7: Everybody want to be Dame.
Speaker 3: And that was in the movie. That was That was
Speaker 3: in bat that says in high school.
Speaker 2: When I saw that ship, I was like, I want
Speaker 2: to be Dame.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be Kevin. But look at look
Speaker 4: at Kevin is great.
Speaker 2: Kevin is so company for three hundred and thirty million,
Speaker 2: He's still here.
Speaker 7: So you just start learning.
Speaker 2: But I think that because when I nobody black wants
Speaker 2: to be in the business. Everybody wants labels. They want
Speaker 2: to own that's our ship. I don't want to work
Speaker 2: my own my ship. But if anybody working in there,
Speaker 2: how are we gonna get people to own ship?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: But yeah, sure you got to have a friend in there.
Speaker 2: When when Joey II does his deal with Todd, Moscow
Speaker 2: is tired. He looked out for Todd. That's why Todd
Speaker 2: at that boysel. They look out for each other. So
Speaker 2: we need a nigga in the building to tell us
Speaker 2: like I do, like, yo, this is this what they
Speaker 2: trying to do?
Speaker 5: Get your money? We don't have that absolutely right, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: Right, And it's a letter that everybody's at the top
Speaker 4: of the letter.
Speaker 2: You got to disagree and what not, even you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, not even though what is that shit
Speaker 2: called half a second millisecond, not even a midic because absolutely,
Speaker 2: Because when I was in the building, when I started realizing,
Speaker 2: can I.
Speaker 5: Can I say something? You know who you know who's
Speaker 5: the biggest fan?
Speaker 6: I am that Adam Sama exactly saying really, Adam, I
Speaker 6: love him too.
Speaker 3: Okay did you I didn't know?
Speaker 4: I know me and you were I know.
Speaker 5: But let me just tell you something. You know who
Speaker 5: was in Adam Sandler's movie?
Speaker 3: His people? His friends?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he just all the time.
Speaker 1: I respect that too, you know you those in every
Speaker 1: one of my movies, system of his front people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, facts.
Speaker 6: I want to be because that's gonna sound a little crazy,
Speaker 6: say I want to be the black Adam Sounder because I.
Speaker 4: Know I get it though.
Speaker 1: I want to be Norri you sad about him howering
Speaker 1: your people and keep up.
Speaker 3: I want to be that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: I don't want to be that.
Speaker 6: I looked at Adam Sandler's movies. Mm hmm, every one
Speaker 6: of his movies, every one of his people, same crew,
Speaker 6: from his wife yep, even if he's playing his enemy
Speaker 6: in the actual movie.
Speaker 5: Right then you got all his children.
Speaker 6: So when you see the thing where his daughter walks
Speaker 6: in Chanelle and she walks in Chanelle and she has
Speaker 6: that ship. Is that ship is put together? Yeah, and
Speaker 6: if we as people can do the same thing, we
Speaker 6: would be the most powerful gun on the planet on
Speaker 6: the planet, right, That's a fact we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't put each other on. We do tell each
Speaker 1: other that.
Speaker 2: Let me say, when I had that mentality tall something
Speaker 2: when I work. Chubby Baby rest in peace, Chubby baby
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 7: I got chubby Baby as job at Epic. I did that.
Speaker 7: I walked him in the room. I flew him up.
Speaker 5: Annie.
Speaker 7: I get everybody.
Speaker 2: I look out for everybody and get them jobs because
Speaker 2: it's like they tell us that's laying no having the
Speaker 2: jobs cool as fuck, especially if you needed people. I
Speaker 2: took Big U to the CEO of Warner. It was
Speaker 2: the the whole staff was nervous.
Speaker 7: Her Big You was coming. I'm like, well a, y'all
Speaker 7: scared for Like I just want to.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to be in business with him. Like he
Speaker 2: got the streets. We want the streets. Y'all keep telling
Speaker 2: me try to sign these street artists. Who the fuck
Speaker 2: you think I'm calling? Get to that people to tell
Speaker 2: him I'm legit. Let's get when I get into a building.
Speaker 2: If I'm in a building, I am the opportunity zone
Speaker 2: for everybody. I don't want to see everybody eat. That
Speaker 2: is what I'm here for. I'm only here to help
Speaker 2: my people eat. And sometimes people think of helping me
Speaker 2: and say yo, Nord, let me piece you all.
Speaker 4: Sometimes helping nigga eat saying.
Speaker 7: Go that way instead of that way.
Speaker 3: That's sometimes that's helping the nigga eat.
Speaker 5: That's how I see it.
Speaker 2: So, you know, I think that that moment Kevin lewles
Speaker 2: because because I was like, why don't nobody want to
Speaker 2: be an exec?
Speaker 5: No more?
Speaker 2: Everybody want to be puff Jay Dame. Nobody wants to
Speaker 2: be Kevin Laos And he was the biggest one. Why
Speaker 2: because he got cursed out on camera and made fun
Speaker 2: of on camera.
Speaker 7: Nobody wants to be that nigga.
Speaker 4: I'd rather be the nigga.
Speaker 7: That so and by the way, none of.
Speaker 4: These he took it so so so.
Speaker 7: Ask you this right because that was emotional disciline.
Speaker 2: By the way Kevin laws, because he did handle it, huh,
Speaker 2: I was emotional discipline. That's just that's important to say.
Speaker 2: He handled his ship. And now he's worth a hundred
Speaker 2: million I said, but he pieced other people off. I'm
Speaker 2: dripping on one third, but he handled his business and
Speaker 2: he exit, he's on the golf course.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He did it right.
Speaker 2: So sometimes as black folks, we don't have enough of
Speaker 2: that in our society.
Speaker 5: Like nigga, we are only fifty years old.
Speaker 4: But you also you also and not everything's in front
Speaker 4: of the camera. Everybody got to realize that not everything's
Speaker 4: in front of the camera.
Speaker 6: Then God bless me, because God bless you because you
Speaker 6: said this, But then you also said he said, damn man, Jerry.
Speaker 3: Should kind of look out.
Speaker 2: That's how I lost little respect. That's why I said
Speaker 2: I was wrong. Dame called me and cursed me out.
Speaker 2: Wait what nigga da That's what I'm saying, Like I'm
Speaker 2: not trying, Dame.
Speaker 7: Dame is my nigga.
Speaker 2: Dame called me and said, nigga, that shit wasn't cool,
Speaker 2: and he was right. It was like somebody asked me
Speaker 2: and they said that he it was. It was like
Speaker 2: in the moment like breaking like we're feeling right now,
Speaker 2: somebody say breaking news, Dame has lost it all. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love a nigga. That's my nigga I love.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, if he had this true man in
Speaker 2: the art of war. You know how this shit with war.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta crush that under me totally. I'm like, Jay,
Speaker 2: he's crushed totally. Now now is the time to lift
Speaker 2: them back up, because that's what that's what others do
Speaker 2: for each other. You'll go bankrupt, they say, Yo, Mary,
Speaker 2: one of my items is Jerry Wyntroup. You want to
Speaker 2: break up, bankrupt all his friends rally around you take
Speaker 2: my boat, take my plane, take my house, take three
Speaker 2: months to go figure it out.
Speaker 7: We don't do that to each other and one of
Speaker 7: us lose.
Speaker 3: We laugh.
Speaker 2: That's why we ain't got shit. I want to be
Speaker 2: the person that changes the fucking narrative and talking shit.
Speaker 3: And another thing.
Speaker 4: I also think we look at successful people like they
Speaker 4: know it all. They just like us.
Speaker 2: They'll say the same thing and get a check, just
Speaker 2: like a regular niggas say the same thing and get
Speaker 2: a check. So sometimes you just need a nigga in
Speaker 2: the room with perspective. My father went around, So because
Speaker 2: my father went around, I never have perspective, So I
Speaker 2: teach it to niggas cause I'm like, Man, if my
Speaker 2: father's in my life, I'd be worth a hundred million
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong trying. I'm good, you know, own
Speaker 4: all my shit. I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, if I had a dad to tell me,
Speaker 2: don't believe what they're saying, you could do it, I
Speaker 2: would have.
Speaker 4: Did it from early on too.
Speaker 5: That's my point.
Speaker 2: So I always look back in revisionous history, like why why.
Speaker 4: Do I because ain't no black people in the buildings.
Speaker 2: And if they are, and they are docile, that's the
Speaker 2: fact of doing what they are told to do. Nigga,
Speaker 2: I was in the best that they read it. But
Speaker 2: I'm asking any nigga, I don't tell fire me if
Speaker 2: this shit don't work. I want to win more than
Speaker 2: I want to be here, y'all. I don't just want
Speaker 2: to be here. That's another reason why these labels.
Speaker 4: Suck, because they got people in there that just want
Speaker 4: to keep their job. Most of them is like that.
Speaker 2: Think about you in the NBA, just speak, ain't gonna
Speaker 2: make ITGGA, not.
Speaker 5: Gonna make it.
Speaker 2: If you want to play ball, though, play ball and
Speaker 2: let the chips fall what they make.
Speaker 1: That's a big fact they're not risking it all the pudden.
Speaker 1: They want to keep a job. Yeah, and they do
Speaker 1: what's safe. And if you're taking no risks, you can't win.
Speaker 3: Big bro.
Speaker 2: When I was in them companies, Brore, I was a
Speaker 2: spook that coach. I was literally there to learn to
Speaker 2: teach us because I hate giving another motherfucker power over us.
Speaker 2: I hate making it feel like because that nigga got something.
Speaker 2: Because what I'm gonna tell my kids ims me telling
Speaker 2: my kids. Man, I can't eat ause Nor, he says,
Speaker 2: So I got to kill Nor before I let that.
Speaker 2: Tell my kid that I'm not saying I can say.
Speaker 2: And I said, that's how I see the worry.
Speaker 7: That's my job, nigga.
Speaker 2: If something is in my way, I'm going to get
Speaker 2: around it or I'm going to run through it. And
Speaker 2: my kids. I have never once went home and told
Speaker 2: my family we ain't making no money today. That's a fact, nigga.
Speaker 2: I take the check home, nigga. So I'm the big guy,
Speaker 2: like focused on just doing what.
Speaker 5: You got to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually that's real.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's the reason why when I see your
Speaker 6: ship and I'm like, this motherfucker's been holding back for a.
Speaker 1: Long man, man, do give jewels or because even when
Speaker 1: I did this podcast, right, he gave me mad jewels
Speaker 1: and I took him with me. But I tell everybody
Speaker 1: you told me the one thing I took him when
Speaker 1: you saw the barber. But the way you said it,
Speaker 1: you was like, okay, what do you what do you
Speaker 1: find I was representing? Grab said, well, I represent the
Speaker 1: culture in New York City and his lyricism. He was like,
Speaker 1: well take that and put building blocks on top of it.
Speaker 1: You got to take your base and build on top
Speaker 1: of it. So maybe she'd do like a ball. I said, Barbara,
Speaker 1: show about.
Speaker 4: Some rap ship.
Speaker 1: After that, he said, you want your own show. I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 1: did that. I had it in my mind already. So
Speaker 1: you put that jewel there. I didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do it when you told me, I said, I need
Speaker 1: to keep the jewel in my head.
Speaker 3: And he said you want to show?
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, if anybody went to if anybody,
Speaker 2: I'm gonn tell you how I see the world.
Speaker 7: We used to be able to lead from the back.
Speaker 7: You can't lead from the back no more.
Speaker 2: You gotta lead from the front right combined every car
Speaker 2: company in the world. You don't know the CEO of
Speaker 2: Mercedes BMW hont the number?
Speaker 5: Everybody know the CEO of Tesla.
Speaker 4: That's why Tesla's worth more than all of them put together.
Speaker 5: With the owner.
Speaker 7: What's the most famous?
Speaker 2: Who the most successful football team money wise in the game?
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones?
Speaker 5: We know the owner.
Speaker 2: Everybody who leads from the front, take their ship far them.
Speaker 2: Niggas that lead from the back, they usually the piece
Speaker 2: of shit guys. Those are the guys in the f
Speaker 2: SCEA file. That's why I don see nobody worried about that,
Speaker 2: but the people that leave from the front, because you
Speaker 2: got to like me now, dog, I love what I love,
Speaker 2: but I'm leaning from the front now, so I can't
Speaker 2: put it on them. Just walked out of the way. Man,
Speaker 2: I wanted to have fun, but nah, this might go
Speaker 2: bad for the team. I got. Nigga lives in my
Speaker 2: hand right now. I can't afford to make no mistakes.
Speaker 2: Come leading from the front, but I'm from the back.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let that shot all that ship back here.
Speaker 4: Nigga, say that ship back here.
Speaker 7: That's why we said that's some email.
Speaker 2: That's some file emails like that's leading from the back,
Speaker 2: Like I can't littlebody know what I'm doing, so but
Speaker 2: I leave from the front. That's why my ship working.
Speaker 2: And I think transparency is going to be key for
Speaker 2: anybody that leads from the front. And that's why these
Speaker 2: labels suck because nobody knows. The CEO ofver labels should
Speaker 2: be talking like I am right now, like a fucking like, yo,
Speaker 2: my company is here.
Speaker 4: What makes us different?
Speaker 2: No, they wait for the fucking the artists to get hot,
Speaker 2: come in the room, and they give the same speech.
Speaker 2: If everybody you know howe chopper. I told his mother
Speaker 2: straight up, I said, look, I know you got a
Speaker 2: lot of people want to sign him, and your mother
Speaker 2: I talked to like a mother. I said, I promise
Speaker 2: you on my dead father, I will never tell your
Speaker 2: son to do something that I wouldn't tell my son
Speaker 2: to do. And I think that was important because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see him as I'm a man first before i
Speaker 2: see him as an artist that makes money. So for me,
Speaker 2: it's like it's big on just being human and leading
Speaker 2: from the front. We don't have enough of that.
Speaker 1: Well, none of that, so coming that's.
Speaker 3: What y'all doing. Let's tape what y'all doing? A boy
Speaker 3: having me here?
Speaker 2: No, he pulled me to the front. Infl y'all pulled
Speaker 2: me to the front. That nigga's important. Come up here
Speaker 2: with us. That's what that's what we're supposed to do
Speaker 2: for each other. And think about it. We do that
Speaker 2: for each other. Dog, Dame Dash is never gonna fail.
Speaker 2: He might have a lot of problems with people that
Speaker 2: he knew, but he's never gonna fail because he's been
Speaker 2: the inspiration.
Speaker 5: There's so many others.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he might be down for somebody gonna say,
Speaker 2: put your name on my bowling alley, nigga, because you
Speaker 2: Dame Dash, because he led from the front.
Speaker 7: He wasn't the CEO stealing money. He was always there.
Speaker 2: So I think that that's what we are in society,
Speaker 2: and now you gotta lead from the front. And that's
Speaker 2: why I was fucked up because everybody want to hide
Speaker 2: their hands, right, nigga, My hands is showing and I'm
Speaker 2: still in it. That's because I'm good at what I do.
Speaker 2: Not like niggas that hot is usually not good. And
Speaker 2: by the way, it's so much ship. I would go on,
Speaker 2: but I'll just be respectful because you know, you gotta
Speaker 2: gotta give people a chance to like the people to
Speaker 2: see and get mad first. But I know what's happened
Speaker 2: in the music business. They're killing it, bro, But you.
Speaker 11: Still transparency and that's the exist exists robbing it and
Speaker 11: they have to though, they have to because that but
Speaker 11: the artist is not in favor of the artists is
Speaker 11: a bad loan nigga. So it's like, if you're going
Speaker 11: to do bad beness with somebody.
Speaker 3: You got to hide in the back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so not money, you did that? Accountan did that
Speaker 7: you nigga?
Speaker 2: Because they can't do nothing without coming to your office
Speaker 2: and making sure you're.
Speaker 7: Cool with it.
Speaker 3: That's the fact.
Speaker 5: You can't do nothing without us cold sign of that fact.
Speaker 6: But I'm the fucking artist that actually signed those deals, right,
Speaker 6: and it was.
Speaker 4: Smaller ones, more mad.
Speaker 3: It was horrible for me, So yeah, that's a big fact.
Speaker 1: I remember when I first got in the business, right,
Speaker 1: my first three deals I had on the table, All
Speaker 1: three of them were bad, but I couldn't afford to
Speaker 1: pay my lawyer, so he get a percentage of the deal.
Speaker 1: The worst, the worst deal was the was the one
Speaker 1: with the biggest bread on it. He told me to
Speaker 1: sign that one because he gets paid the most. I'm
Speaker 1: fucking nineteen years old.
Speaker 12: I'm like, I know the Floyds with each other. It's
Speaker 12: a thirty game, bro, thirty game. I'm gonna hold my tongue. No, No,
Speaker 12: they're all friends.
Speaker 2: They're all they're all friends, all work together.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Let's go.
Speaker 2: I all work together, they all together, and they all
Speaker 2: cussling together. Listen, let me tell you something. They all friends.
Speaker 2: That's what killed me when you think about this. Let's
Speaker 2: just talk real. If you were younger, let's say you
Speaker 2: twenty on.
Speaker 3: Let me say you.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you why I want you to talk
Speaker 6: because me graph we need people like you. Yeah, saying
Speaker 6: we actually scope out people like you to help us.
Speaker 6: So now that you're here, actually, oh yeah, I'll take
Speaker 6: a shot.
Speaker 2: I don't even drink like that, but I'm drinking where
Speaker 2: let's go, let'sten, it goes out.
Speaker 5: You know what, we actually slow solo, let go.
Speaker 4: We could have the drinking games a whole bit time.
Speaker 3: What is that.
Speaker 5: I don't drink.
Speaker 7: I want to tell you something important.
Speaker 2: I just know that's important because I just saw so obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 7: I'm connected to the streets.
Speaker 2: I know I'm from the streets, right, I just don't
Speaker 2: I speak, so I speak. So this kid right here
Speaker 2: with me, this kid, Fredo, he works than me, right,
Speaker 2: he's Fredo comes to me as like a street dude.
Speaker 2: And he comes to me swear to God, and he's like, yo, Ray,
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you I got ten for you.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, cool, my nigga, Like, I
Speaker 2: need no money. He was like, I'm like what ten ten?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: He said ten years?
Speaker 5: I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: He was like, I do ten years for you today.
Speaker 2: If I have to o God, I go, why the
Speaker 2: fuck would you do that? I said, no, he's right there.
Speaker 2: I said, Bro, I'm your og. That's the problem. OG's
Speaker 2: making young nigga sacrifice that time.
Speaker 4: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, my job is to put you on.
Speaker 2: My job is to protect you. And by the way,
Speaker 2: the Sierra Chris Brown, how we wrote record. He wrote
Speaker 2: that he got a platinum record to Toronto Form.
Speaker 4: Making that happen. But my point is that he's now,
Speaker 4: he's a street dude and he has he wrote for Sierra. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I show you how to do this because.
Speaker 2: You just need someone to lead you. Let me show
Speaker 2: I'm leading front the front. Now come up here with me.
Speaker 2: Let me show you could do this shit too. That's
Speaker 2: what happens when now imagine when I was a piece
Speaker 2: of shit nigga. Imagine if I was I had a
Speaker 2: little dick and I was just walking around, I did
Speaker 2: somebody trump got little nigga gon put.
Speaker 4: No, I'm a real nigga. Bro, I do what a
Speaker 4: real nigga should.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lead my people, bro I want And I
Speaker 2: say this on record. I know labels ain't doing it
Speaker 2: because they ain't called me yet.
Speaker 5: The label that why why.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you call me? La Reed said when that something
Speaker 2: to me? One day, he said, when you talk, every
Speaker 2: artist listens. Cardinal Official called me and said, you are
Speaker 2: the manager of everybody in the music business, every manager,
Speaker 2: the network is yours. If you as a label, why
Speaker 2: wouldn't I'm ahead of a label. I'm like, get that
Speaker 2: nigga in here.
Speaker 4: But they know when I come in there, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be like, what y'all doing to these people? Right?
Speaker 2: I'm not for sale, my nigga. I want to work
Speaker 2: with you. But I'm just not for saying the book.
Speaker 2: I want to go home. I want to go home.
Speaker 2: I want to see my niggas. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see nor or see you. And I know y'all with
Speaker 2: me and y'all. My mom lives good because of music.
Speaker 2: My mom John's a rain. My mom was a school
Speaker 2: bus drip. My mom was usher school bus driver. My
Speaker 2: mom was a school bus driver for Fulton County schools.
Speaker 2: And now she lives in a mass and he drives
Speaker 2: a rangehow and it's all paid the funk off because
Speaker 2: of music. This ship can change your life if you
Speaker 2: treated like greatness. Music became a hustle like sports is
Speaker 2: still about greatness. Music greatness left and now it's all
Speaker 2: about how can make some money. Michael Jackson wasn't making
Speaker 2: thriller thinking how can I make a billion dollars? He
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna make some ship that's gonna shut
Speaker 2: this world down. And nobody's aiming for that no more.
Speaker 2: Everybody's just trying to get some money.
Speaker 1: Hip Hop became low hanging fruit because it's easy as this.
Speaker 2: You don't have to have talent to do it. I
Speaker 2: can't graft and rap. I just get a nigga to
Speaker 2: do voice you right, his raps now he's famous.
Speaker 3: That's all go.
Speaker 4: That was by design too. I believe it was. Let
Speaker 4: go lego.
Speaker 3: What is this? Hold on? My girl?
Speaker 4: That's my lady right there. She'll tell you. They know
Speaker 4: I get started. What is this even?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 4: You got a let's qick time. Let's do a quick time.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna start doing these you know what I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm going.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this.
Speaker 3: I was Friday. I gotta tell you. That was Friday.
Speaker 3: I was having a bad day last Friday. Today is
Speaker 3: a Friday. I was having a bad day.
Speaker 7: I was ready to quit my nigga quit what just
Speaker 7: the game?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard broke because it's hard leading people that
Speaker 2: don't get it. And then I gotta test some big
Speaker 2: d I had a whole trip plan this weekend, saying, Yo,
Speaker 2: knowing what you do the show, I said, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: booked my fight already, I said, I said, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: will drive there if I have to. I ain't know
Speaker 2: what opportunity brings. That's how we gotta trade it. That's
Speaker 2: what I think about this. I'm gonn see over label
Speaker 2: and I'm raised my artist. I'm like, ray, go down
Speaker 2: there and kill it. You need people to.
Speaker 7: Tell you right from wrong.
Speaker 5: We don't have that.
Speaker 2: And now the game sucks now because none of the
Speaker 2: people leave. Nick give a fuck about the game, niggive
Speaker 2: about they pop. I care about the game because I
Speaker 2: want my son. I want our kids to be able
Speaker 2: to run this ship.
Speaker 3: And when I.
Speaker 8: Started realized that, nigga, that that's integrity and Hi, you
Speaker 8: know what, let me give your flowers.
Speaker 3: Let me get your flowers. Let me give your flowers.
Speaker 4: Though, let's say, just going in, I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 4: I just need some lemonadors juice.
Speaker 6: I really watch you. I really scope man, and I
Speaker 6: know what you're saying. It's real ship, and that ship
Speaker 6: is hard to say. So that's the reason why I'm like, yo,
Speaker 6: I gotta get this flowers because holy ship. Right, A
Speaker 6: lot of the ship that you be saying, I'm sitting
Speaker 6: back and I'm saying, yes.
Speaker 5: He's right, but a lot of that ship is.
Speaker 1: Uh right, Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 5: Those people are like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want to they don't want to hear
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: We finally got someone and that I.
Speaker 7: Don't want to handle truth.
Speaker 3: They don't want to.
Speaker 4: They don't want, they don't want to expose.
Speaker 5: They don't want no one to say it.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: They don't want, they don't they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: It's like robbing the bank. It's like, nigg you robbing
Speaker 2: the bank and at turr all your whole cup shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up, right, And I'm like, yeah, but Nigga,
Speaker 2: when we get our money, you go to that neighborhood,
Speaker 2: You go to that neighborhood, and I go back to Atlanta. Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm like a fucking celebrity in my city. Everybody go,
Speaker 2: people look at me as an opportunity. Z on, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna feel like a sell out of I don't fucking
Speaker 2: make sure people have an opportunity. I have to make
Speaker 2: sure that I send the elevator down. That is our
Speaker 2: fucking that is our right. We have to do that
Speaker 2: for each other. Black folks and Latinos, everybody. We send
Speaker 2: the elevator fucking down. Stop making your kids walk up
Speaker 2: the stairs. I don't understand that. My kids don't have to, Nigga.
Speaker 2: I'm getting every last one of my kids one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on their birthday.
Speaker 7: On an eighteen birthday.
Speaker 2: That's now I'm getting my son, he's seventeen, eighteen, br
Speaker 2: I get one hundred thousand dollars in his pocket. Nigga
Speaker 2: E I want my kids to be better. We're supposed
Speaker 2: to make it easier. Why i'mann telling I'm gonna hold
Speaker 2: it back. I'd rather than fuck up eight one hundred
Speaker 2: thy and eighteen. So when you get to twenty five
Speaker 2: and he really focus, he know what to do now.
Speaker 3: Right, that's how look at it.
Speaker 1: That's a real ship, all right, give me a twenty
Speaker 1: and eighteen. I'm I'm fucking it up.
Speaker 4: That's good. I'm glad you get to learn.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to start the business.
Speaker 1: When I saw it was Sony, I was like, not
Speaker 1: too far from eighteen. I was probably twenty or whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck it was. I was a kid up seventy
Speaker 1: five thousand.
Speaker 4: Whoa gone fuk it up?
Speaker 1: And I thought, and it's funny because I didn't even
Speaker 1: ball out.
Speaker 4: I was like, but you know, we weren't.
Speaker 1: We weren't taught as minarvety is what to do with
Speaker 1: money in school. They don't teach you money. They don't
Speaker 1: teach you financis.
Speaker 5: You don't learn that.
Speaker 1: You have to learn that as a grown man on
Speaker 1: your own, at least when you're blast do experience.
Speaker 3: We learned from the laws.
Speaker 2: Listen to always say the first million and a half,
Speaker 2: we did a deal million and a half dollars. Shit
Speaker 2: was going in six months. Nobody taught us how to
Speaker 2: handle how to handle money right. One thing that we
Speaker 2: never stopped, we just never stopped working right. So what
Speaker 2: mostly is at one point five they happy. I'm thinking like,
Speaker 2: I gotta get this money back so I can get
Speaker 2: some more money from these folks. Not knowing that we
Speaker 2: were gonna be in this ship. I'm twenty one years later,
Speaker 2: I'm in this business. I can't believe I'm eating in
Speaker 2: this ship. Niggas get sent home when it get gray.
Speaker 2: When the nigga now, you don't go on building. You
Speaker 2: see a lot of gray old white men. You don't
Speaker 2: see no gray black man unless he's a lawyer. Niggas
Speaker 2: get sent home in this business. So for me, I
Speaker 2: just want to feel like we got to start changing
Speaker 2: that narrative. We got to teach our people, we got
Speaker 2: to stay there.
Speaker 3: That's why shit.
Speaker 2: Fucked up right now? And and by the way, I
Speaker 2: still want to be in this shit. I just know
Speaker 2: too much. So it's hard to be in it because.
Speaker 5: I know, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like you want to be feeling you know.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like you want to respect the person
Speaker 2: you work for. Right, Like if I tell somebody my
Speaker 2: team to run through the wall, they gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Why because they seen me run through the wall for them.
Speaker 2: I just feel like these guys they ain't run through
Speaker 2: the wall. They're like, you run through the wall, you run,
Speaker 2: you run through the wall.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's why we ain't winning. I want to
Speaker 4: run through that bitch first.
Speaker 3: That's real. That's my goal.
Speaker 2: My goal is I listen, bro, I want to ship
Speaker 2: my whole life. Bro, I can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 3: That's real shit.
Speaker 2: Nobody even nobody thought I was smart. Nobody talked to me,
Speaker 2: nobody told me I could be something.
Speaker 7: Nobody. I just want day walcome. Was like, I'm a
Speaker 7: fucking loser.
Speaker 4: How the fuck did this happen?
Speaker 7: I gotta change this shit around, and I changed it.
Speaker 3: That's real.
Speaker 1: The one thing you said that I mean, you said
Speaker 1: a bunch of joes that I that I appreciated. But
Speaker 1: the one thing that really I'm like that that I
Speaker 1: took from is you like to put your people on.
Speaker 1: That's so important to me. Same thing you said about
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler. I'm so big and putting my people on.
Speaker 1: I want to make money with my people. Like nobody
Speaker 1: wants to be at the top by theyself, at least.
Speaker 5: Not a real nigga.
Speaker 1: You don't have bet the top a loan. You want
Speaker 1: to power your folks.
Speaker 4: So strong with if you fall.
Speaker 3: Off, they can put you on.
Speaker 4: Or were you at the top?
Speaker 7: We all looking good?
Speaker 4: You can't to who the superstars I want.
Speaker 5: I want you to.
Speaker 2: I want you to know what it feels like to
Speaker 2: take care of people that took care of you.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Real shit.
Speaker 7: My mom may worked in thirteen years. I love that.
Speaker 7: I love saying that on record.
Speaker 5: She and Joe.
Speaker 2: My mom made two thousand of month driving school buses.
Speaker 2: That's what she made. That's where we lived off. Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get out here and fucking get it. And
Speaker 2: then and then when you start to stop me, it's
Speaker 2: weird for me, cause nigga, I'm not doing it for hose.
Speaker 5: Like most niggas that want to be.
Speaker 2: In this is a secret. I guess most niggas want
Speaker 2: to be in the music business executive. They just want
Speaker 2: to do it for bitchess. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 2: know this or not. Like most problem that men have
Speaker 2: in the music business is women. They want women. They
Speaker 2: don't want niggas around it can get women. They don't
Speaker 2: want you around the women like you. That's the whole point.
Speaker 2: I've been getting chicks. I was seven, sixteen, seventeen. I
Speaker 2: don't need that so and mana that. I don't want
Speaker 2: to fuck nobody in the music business. I want to
Speaker 2: fuck my career fucking her head up. I'm got no problems.
Speaker 2: I'm only here to get rich. I'm not here to
Speaker 2: get pussy. I did not pray to God to give
Speaker 2: me the music basins I'll get asked. I pray to
Speaker 2: God to give me his I'll get some money.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm here for.
Speaker 4: And one thing, we don't want to confuse people because
Speaker 4: people will hear what you're saying about putting your people
Speaker 4: on and they think, oh, just because I'm around you
Speaker 4: really young. It's about creating opportunities for people when they
Speaker 4: have to meet.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that opportunity.
Speaker 3: It's not just putting people on.
Speaker 2: Saying.
Speaker 4: What you're doing?
Speaker 5: I said, you know what I said I was.
Speaker 2: I was telling to Polo to don Pollo my brother
Speaker 2: and Polo I will always go see his family and
Speaker 2: Polo have family members that want to do music. And
Speaker 2: I remember one day I was just asking, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: why why are you put your family on? He was like,
Speaker 2: I said, why you don't help your family? He was
Speaker 2: like the real questions, why don't help me? Think about that.
Speaker 2: It was like that when he said that, that shit fucked me.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I said a ten years ago,
Speaker 4: I was like this nigga arrogant, or you think about it.
Speaker 2: Look at the Bezos family. There's a lot of them.
Speaker 2: The first investors in in Amazon was Jeff Bezos brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters. Like, look at how they're living. So for me,
Speaker 2: when he said that, I'm like, yeah, if you got
Speaker 2: to plan, follow the man with the plan. But I
Speaker 2: think siblings think they have to have a plan because
Speaker 2: it's like, no, bro.
Speaker 4: Just get with your brother, get with your sisters.
Speaker 2: So I always say that, like help the person, don't
Speaker 2: it's the person to help you. I need help right now, Nigga.
Speaker 2: I always need help.
Speaker 3: Right bro?
Speaker 6: He serious, Let me let me stop, let me stay.
Speaker 3: For quck Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but.
Speaker 5: I think we can do it.
Speaker 2: I tell you, I swear to God. I'm gonna tell this.
Speaker 2: I swear to God. I will watch I love QuickTime Slum.
Speaker 2: I will watch it. And I always said I'll be
Speaker 2: the one, Nigga. I promise you.
Speaker 7: I'mnna answer every motherfucking question, no matter how hard it is.
Speaker 3: All right, I shouldn't do that. So you don't need
Speaker 3: the rules.
Speaker 4: You know the rules, nigga. I am a I am
Speaker 4: a fan.
Speaker 5: Nigga.
Speaker 2: I came on to drink, would have been so who
Speaker 2: was your Uh No, he's drinking.
Speaker 3: What do you mean he's drinking. Let's go to drink.
Speaker 3: You need drink. Drink, Nah, give me the more liguas.
Speaker 3: Let's do that.
Speaker 4: Taste a little bit what I gave you. Just take
Speaker 4: just take we drink, right, just take a little bit
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: Let's go just take a little doing it out in
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: We're doing it out.
Speaker 4: Let go pull it up, motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying I'm going to ask everyone flat out.
Speaker 2: But my goal right now is to answer everyone flat
Speaker 2: the funk out, because when I see people.
Speaker 1: Doing did I answered all the questions flat out?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 6: Right today, we're kind of drinking.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends.
Speaker 4: I don't think I read from nothing. I like that answer.
Speaker 4: All right, ready, let's go all right, Jake Cole or
Speaker 4: Drake Drake Easy, Fat Joe or French Montane hold.
Speaker 5: On, I want to drink just because he said drink
Speaker 5: so fast.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna get you. I got this easy, got
Speaker 2: drink if you want to, that's your rule. Or Fat Joe,
Speaker 2: Joe Easy, and I love French. But let me say something.
Speaker 2: My grandmother rest in peace, my grandmother. The only rapper
Speaker 2: my grandmother knew was Fat Joe because the Bronx.
Speaker 7: We are from the Bronx. He was the only presson representative.
Speaker 2: So I loved Joe forever like my like he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, like Jesus is a fat Joe like at
Speaker 2: my house because he's from the Bronx and he don't
Speaker 2: eve Nigga made it out. It was like a big
Speaker 2: deal for.
Speaker 4: And he would come to all the reunions and ship
Speaker 4: so my grandmother would.
Speaker 2: See him and be like, put your pants up, and
Speaker 2: he put his pants slippers.
Speaker 3: Love him so fat Joe. Let's go right, my brother,
Speaker 3: fast Joe. Thank you.
Speaker 4: That was That was hard, all right, Supac at DMX
Speaker 4: rest in peace of Pac And I like X.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say POC because when I was sixteen
Speaker 2: years old and I was lost, Park has a song
Speaker 2: called Me Against the World, and he says on that
Speaker 2: song even the Genians asked, asked questions, be grateful, blessings,
Speaker 2: and as as a man. When I became a man,
Speaker 2: that line I held on to. Even the genius asked questions.
Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to ask, because you know, most of
Speaker 2: the time we just don't get away because we keep
Speaker 2: our mouth shut.
Speaker 7: So I started asking more. So I'm gonna give it
Speaker 7: to Pac.
Speaker 3: That's real. Warner Brothers an epic. You already know where
Speaker 3: to look.
Speaker 4: You're looking.
Speaker 3: I thought the guys that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say epic.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say epic. Uh, epic was black. Epic cared
Speaker 2: about what black folks start. I can't say completely that
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers, the Warner Records that I work full cared
Speaker 2: about that like they they they they they like black artists,
Speaker 2: but I don't think they cared about the plight of
Speaker 2: black artists. Like what we face every day is not
Speaker 2: just music. We gotta go home. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it to Epic because La Reed was my greatest teacher.
Speaker 2: I'm here because of him.
Speaker 3: That's real.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna give it to him.
Speaker 4: Lizzo or Sierra, Now that's the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Sierra, and I'm gonna say Sierra because
Speaker 2: I've been on Serious that she was fourteen. We've been
Speaker 2: on Lizo too, but Sierra to me, I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it to her because honestly, because if I face time
Speaker 2: to a called her right now, she answers. So I'm
Speaker 2: always give it to Sierra. So, Lizzo, are we cool?
Speaker 2: But my relationship is usually with Tarran doing her music.
Speaker 2: But Sierra, you are answering all these motherfuckers answers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch your ship, man, I love this shit.
Speaker 3: This is a slam dunk answerest.
Speaker 4: Bro, you gotta make a dream one of these questions
Speaker 4: the source of double x L.
Speaker 3: I think that's easy.
Speaker 2: I want to say the source because of the ninety
Speaker 2: five Source Awards. But I'm on the cover of the
Speaker 2: Double x CL so and I got it framed in
Speaker 2: my house or double XL shout to Vanessa, let's go.
Speaker 3: That was the dream comes true.
Speaker 4: And not to be on a couple of double xls.
Speaker 4: They gotta have it.
Speaker 3: That's a good reason. That's a great reason. That's great reason.
Speaker 2: Jada kiss and Nas, Oh, that's easy kiss. I think
Speaker 2: kisses the, I think kisses the. I put him as
Speaker 2: the third best rapper lyric rapper in New York history
Speaker 2: to me, behind Big and Jay.
Speaker 3: What I will say about Nas just too because I
Speaker 3: was just gifted.
Speaker 7: But I want to listen to a now this album.
Speaker 4: But I just wanted. I wanted to say this before
Speaker 4: and I didn't when you were saying about people need
Speaker 4: to be more collaborative. Yeah, I think what he's doing
Speaker 4: with Mass Appeal and.
Speaker 3: The Legend Run is a collaborative, brilliant, amazing peers. I
Speaker 3: love by the way. I love what he's doing.
Speaker 2: But I just you know, Jada kiss when kiss is
Speaker 2: that nigga bro I just I wish I could an
Speaker 2: R album for him, broke, because he could rap better
Speaker 2: than everybody he just needs mathematics, is the man. He
Speaker 2: just needs the mathematics on point the man.
Speaker 3: E p m D. Will run DMC.
Speaker 7: I got Eric Srmon name on my phone, Eric Sermon.
Speaker 2: Eric Simmon was like you, he said he had my
Speaker 2: lawyer called me like I love you and I'm like, nigga.
Speaker 2: Sixth grade, I asked one a three Bronx. They filming juice,
Speaker 2: Remember the Blue Flame Lounge. Everywhere they was like, you're
Speaker 2: about to rob this motherfucker, nigga. That was half a
Speaker 2: block from my middle school. We heard Eric Sermon. E
Speaker 2: p m D Was at the Blue Flame Lounge. Fucking
Speaker 2: twelve hundred kids ran Pattison Projects to get to them,
Speaker 2: and Eric Simmon signed every autograph. I love Red run
Speaker 2: but Sermon in my phone, I'm always give the aeric Sermon.
Speaker 3: That's real, that's dope. I was good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll go rock him or karas one carros one
Speaker 7: from the Bronx.
Speaker 5: Nigga.
Speaker 7: I remember riding the car leaving that white Stone. What's that?
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 2: What's that movie there in the Bronx Whitstone Theater. And
Speaker 2: my uncle was a big dough boy, he playing no, no, no, they.
Speaker 3: Know it down with us. I'm number one.
Speaker 2: I remember just being a kid and we just left
Speaker 2: Robo Cop and for some reason, he said, we just
Speaker 2: seen robo Cop And for some reason, Carroll riss One says,
Speaker 2: robo Cop, you know he's down, and my uncle's and
Speaker 2: them niggas was gods me. They was like my uncle
Speaker 2: Aron risporting up. So I love them niggas. They was like,
Speaker 2: he said, Robo Cop niggas. So I gotta give a
Speaker 2: carross One he from the Bronx shout out to RoboCop Future,
Speaker 2: young thug Future. I worked with Future. I did h
Speaker 2: I turned. I did Future second album honest, so move
Speaker 2: that dope, and I just wanted to take you out
Speaker 2: and show you I was those regular futures.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give the future with.
Speaker 4: The your TV raps or video music box.
Speaker 5: You have TV raps.
Speaker 2: I don't I like young tv raps because I liked
Speaker 2: that they was outside the scene with my man five
Speaker 2: Freddy was on the back of the truck just like
Speaker 2: that scene, like these iconic moments that just make you
Speaker 2: want to be in this ship, like I do want.
Speaker 4: To be in this hip hop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I got like it's like I.
Speaker 2: Think most black men at my age, it was either
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in hip hop or you're gonna go.
Speaker 4: To the regular world.
Speaker 7: And I don't want to be in this ship.
Speaker 4: So yeah, m n L.
Speaker 3: Chopper or NBA young boy.
Speaker 2: I signed an elite chopper, so I'm gonna give it
Speaker 2: to him. I'm gonna give it to I signed him
Speaker 2: and is a good kid man, Uh chot n Bro
Speaker 2: like like, I love that kid. I wish I could
Speaker 2: have still worded him because I feel like I was
Speaker 2: still with him things to be a little different. I
Speaker 2: just felt like he needed to write people in the
Speaker 2: room to talk to him and he when I see
Speaker 2: Nly to this day, it's I see him. He always
Speaker 2: compliment me on how fresh I am, and he always
Speaker 2: caught me on like the ship. I'm saying, like, Yo, Bro,
Speaker 2: you fred Brock with you. But and Chopper, man, I
Speaker 2: hope you.
Speaker 4: Get it together. But Chopper, that's my nigga. I love.
Speaker 3: Biggie or Big L, piece of both.
Speaker 2: This might be embarrassing to say. I don't even know
Speaker 2: want more than one Big L songs. I think Biggie
Speaker 2: is the most gifted rapper in the history of rap music.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's nobody that has ever rapped that
Speaker 2: is better gifted, like like the Tangibles are rap than big.
Speaker 2: So he's over everybody. To me, he can make words
Speaker 2: round like nobody could. He could do a girl record,
Speaker 2: a street record of storytelling and it was just it
Speaker 2: was just gifted. And he did all this shit in
Speaker 2: three years.
Speaker 7: Peoplen't understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 4: So that a tribe called quest or day I saw.
Speaker 7: Try, but I will say this, what's that?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 5: Day?
Speaker 4: I saw?
Speaker 2: The States is high but they got Kenny Anderson in
Speaker 2: the video and he played against it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Stakes is how I love Dayla I sould. But I
Speaker 2: just think trib we need a new tribe. We need
Speaker 2: a tribe right now, like just somebody making like dope
Speaker 2: beats and rapping about dope shit.
Speaker 7: So I'll give it a tribe Usher Chris Brown.
Speaker 5: This is kind of easy for me.
Speaker 2: It's weird because me and my partner Lection were talking
Speaker 2: about this. I've known Chris Brown. See he was sixteen,
Speaker 2: so I've known since he was a kid. I was
Speaker 2: always a fan of Usher. I know Usher, but like
Speaker 2: we're cool, But like when I was in high school,
Speaker 2: you know you. I was playing can You Get with It?
Speaker 2: To the chicks, trying to get some ass, right. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to Usher because and the this'
Speaker 2: another thing. I'm gonnaive it to Usher overse b. It's
Speaker 2: because Usher has one classic, and I feel like the
Speaker 2: one thing Chris needs, the one thing Chris is missing,
Speaker 2: is one classic now that everybody says, like Michael Jackson
Speaker 2: Thriller Usher Confessions. I think people might say the first
Speaker 2: time the third album Indigo, but I think Christmas need
Speaker 2: one good, twelve to fifteen song album produced by one
Speaker 2: person to have that classic.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it the Usher, h Rihanna or Beyonce ship.
Speaker 5: Rihanna.
Speaker 2: Rihanna has hold on what we got, man down, poured up,
Speaker 2: what else we did with Rihanna, Rain and Men.
Speaker 7: I could play the demo.
Speaker 2: I can play the demo of them ships right now,
Speaker 2: like so, I'm always going Rihanna.
Speaker 4: And by the way we did we are.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to Rihanna because we got three
Speaker 2: Rihanna hits and we got one would be So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give it to re for that reason.
Speaker 7: He did Beyonce All night, tell.
Speaker 6: Met flex he's flexing.
Speaker 3: Time to do it? Yeah, yeah you continue.
Speaker 4: Walker or Fetti walk a flock or Fetti.
Speaker 7: Wap, that's easy. Walk us from Atlanta and he did
Speaker 7: my show.
Speaker 2: And I don't think Fetti Wap got no line better
Speaker 2: than I fucked my money up.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: Now I can't re up run into its spot us.
Speaker 3: To get my stacks. Now I'm back on deck.
Speaker 4: Shawny, what the nigga, nigga? Hurt you talking ship nigga?
Speaker 4: When when that ship dropped in Atlanta, Nigga, that ship
Speaker 4: was like I remember the DJ.
Speaker 3: I can just take that part back seven times just
Speaker 3: because of.
Speaker 4: What he says. So I gotta give it to Walker.
Speaker 5: Saved woman time.
Speaker 4: I fuck my money Damn Now I can't read up
Speaker 4: ran into his spot just to pick my stacks up.
Speaker 4: Now I'm back on deck. So Shanty, what.
Speaker 2: The fuck you want? Hurdy talking ship? But this say,
Speaker 2: what the fuck you want nigga?
Speaker 4: Walk out of that, nigga. Let's go Walker, that's my nigga.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Walker walking by the way, we can.
Speaker 3: Hold queens.
Speaker 4: I love it like queens real quick.
Speaker 1: I did someone's going on take I said was make
Speaker 1: a queens. He should on the Sauls. The niggas knows.
Speaker 4: I got to Walker.
Speaker 3: I can have no It's.
Speaker 4: Cool who share Joe Bundener a million dollars worth of game.
Speaker 2: Button And I'm gonna sayudd and shout out to Gilly
Speaker 2: my nigga. We talked Wallow, my nigga, but butder have
Speaker 2: me on the show three motherfucking times. And listen, y'all.
Speaker 2: If I hit Joe Budden right now I'm in New York,
Speaker 2: he like, what time you're pulling up to the show.
Speaker 2: Like that's what peop don't understand. Like Joe Budden is
Speaker 2: the first podcast to co sign me in the biggest
Speaker 2: way in ways when I when I'm doing this shit
Speaker 2: and I'm lost and I'm trying to figure this shit out,
Speaker 2: and somebody sent me Joe Budden talking about something I said,
Speaker 2: So I got to get the Joe. But shout out
Speaker 2: to Gillian Wallow because Wallow is Wallow of the reason
Speaker 2: why I make money.
Speaker 7: Because Wallow came to my show. Was like, nigga, you
Speaker 7: know you are.
Speaker 4: He was like, nigga was in jail since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: I was in jail. You was making hits hop a
Speaker 2: my ahead of you and this shit. I'm like, damn, nigga,
Speaker 2: let me get my motherfucking shit together.
Speaker 7: So but I said, I give it to joke.
Speaker 4: Seriously, got wallow for motivating the nigga eighties or nine
Speaker 4: indies rap Nineties.
Speaker 2: I think nineties is the peek of music. I just
Speaker 2: think I like eighties, but like, I don't think the
Speaker 2: nigga's in it.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: So my favorite rapper from the eighties is not.
Speaker 2: Charas One is rock Kim. I remember being in Patterson Projects.
Speaker 2: Rock Kim is the first artist that I ever heard
Speaker 2: Passion Projects. I remember the first nigga that when we
Speaker 2: was in the park. When I heard I came in
Speaker 2: the door. I said it before I knew that wasn't
Speaker 2: for my mother. I knew that wasn't for my mother.
Speaker 2: As eight year old kid, I was like, this for me,
Speaker 2: that ain't for my mother. My mother listen to Luther Vandross.
Speaker 2: My mother listened to Freddy Jackson. This is your generations music.
Speaker 2: Like that shit fucked my head up. So yeah, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna still give it to nineties because the nineties
Speaker 2: is when niggas got rich. The eighties laid the platform,
Speaker 2: but the nineties is when niggas got hundreds of millions
Speaker 2: of dollars.
Speaker 7: So I'd rather go there.
Speaker 3: That's true, all right.
Speaker 5: Last one to go for it loyalty or respect.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say this. I've been wanting you to
Speaker 2: ask me that, to ask this this. I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm about give the best answer ever, respect because respect
Speaker 2: don't cost me. Loyalty does. Nigga's loyal to me, he
Speaker 2: expect me to do ship for him, thinking I'm loyal
Speaker 2: to you, give me, give me nigga, donna ask you
Speaker 2: for that loyalty. Respect don't cost me lord he does.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna always take respect because it's a mutual thing. Lord,
Speaker 2: you gotta earn that ship around here. And niggas think,
Speaker 2: because they loyal to you supposed to give him half
Speaker 2: your check. Nigga, That's not how it goes. You gotta
Speaker 2: be working and loyal. So I'm gonna give it to respect.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: That was the jewel working too, right, kicking ass.
Speaker 7: Mumba.
Speaker 2: Kanye won the award and he was like, they said,
Speaker 2: well what happened and you'll never know. This is my
Speaker 2: mama for that because I don't drink Champs Nigga and
Speaker 2: I'm drinking. Let's go drink drink, y'all can't tell this ship.
Speaker 4: The flowers are going home with me the first person
Speaker 4: that did quick time and slim all the way through
Speaker 4: without Let's go and drink something to that.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's.
Speaker 6: Thank you just you know what we want to say,
Speaker 6: something whatever kind of.
Speaker 4: Brown like, yeah, I got you know this man Joyce,
Speaker 4: the Dominican labor man.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. There you go. You don't have to
Speaker 3: put that much. Man relaxed.
Speaker 4: I think the real ship though, but we don't see
Speaker 4: what that drink.
Speaker 2: Champs to Get always homemade.
Speaker 3: The reaships made homemade.
Speaker 4: Alright, it counts, by the way, this it's kitchen full time.
Speaker 4: Let's go, let's kick.
Speaker 6: The but all right, so let me, uh, do you
Speaker 6: think rock Nation runs the podcast area?
Speaker 3: Why would Why would you think that? No?
Speaker 7: No, I think I think rock Nation is.
Speaker 2: I think jay Z is the smartest man in I
Speaker 2: think you want the smartest man in the world. I
Speaker 2: think he understands emotional discipline. Yeah, I think he understands.
Speaker 2: But his biggest thing, he understands the emotional discipline, how
Speaker 2: not to react, how not to do this. I think
Speaker 2: jay Z understands the quiet. The more quiet I am,
Speaker 2: the more loud it's gonna get, and we get more.
Speaker 2: The less I talk, the more power I am. So
Speaker 2: I don't think they run the podcast business at all.
Speaker 2: I think that they understand that when they show up, though,
Speaker 2: because who they with, Everybody stops and says, what do
Speaker 2: you guys want?
Speaker 7: And they get what they want?
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's my motherfucking goal for myself,
Speaker 2: So it ain't no hate for me.
Speaker 4: I love that hole.
Speaker 7: We could do that. Shout out the whole and by
Speaker 7: the way, shout the rock Nation. I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 2: When I left my last job, y'all, and I needed
Speaker 2: a check because I ain't know how I was gonna
Speaker 2: pay my all my shit. Oh maar, Sharry from Rock
Speaker 2: Nation gave me a check. They pay me a check,
Speaker 2: and they looked out for me for three fucking years.
Speaker 3: Three years.
Speaker 2: So I'm a shout out rock Nation for that, because
Speaker 2: I think people get controlled with what I'll be saying.
Speaker 2: But shot the Rock Nations for paying a nigga.
Speaker 4: For three years.
Speaker 7: Shout I wouldn't survived them.
Speaker 5: Days.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a question for you too, Like,
Speaker 1: coming off the super Bowl, watch what you said about
Speaker 1: the bad Bunny Uh yeah, I saw some of the comments, so.
Speaker 7: He was mad at me. I know where you were
Speaker 7: going point wise.
Speaker 1: But we probably elaborate on the show what you feel
Speaker 1: about the bad Bunny things.
Speaker 2: I think this is that number one. I care about
Speaker 2: my culture more than I care about anything. The way
Speaker 2: I was raised was that if my son is fighting
Speaker 2: a kid in the streets, I'm checking my son first.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go deal with the streets shit. But hey,
Speaker 2: what did you do? So let's get that out of
Speaker 2: the way. So the bad Bunny thing is I was
Speaker 2: just being accountable to my like to my friends.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I remember he was doing.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's dope. Do half and half though,
Speaker 2: Like it's like Maro five came to Atlanta. It was
Speaker 2: a big hoopo out they need black people, just a
Speaker 2: black city. Maroe five. They caught that shit and brought
Speaker 2: our outcasts. So I was just hoping that in the
Speaker 2: midst of all of this that he would have went
Speaker 2: with the like, I'm gonna be inclusive rather than just
Speaker 2: celebrating only my culture, and that was my only thing.
Speaker 7: By the way, I.
Speaker 4: Said that before he did it, I'm like, I hope he.
Speaker 7: Does that, and he didn't.
Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I just don't know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen long term. I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: jay Z's last year producing the super Bowl, because you
Speaker 2: gotta remember, I pay attention to ship.
Speaker 7: Nothing is leaked in the press unless they wanted there.
Speaker 4: The press.
Speaker 7: People be thinking the press or something.
Speaker 2: The press is really the spirit, like the like plant
Speaker 2: stories dispredious. So when I saw that this was Rock
Speaker 2: Nation's fifth year contract, I'm like, he went out with
Speaker 2: a bang. I don't know if we get that another time.
Speaker 2: It's like when it's like when we were swagsurfing in
Speaker 2: the White House, Nigga, that was I was mad as fuck.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there that day, right because I know niggas
Speaker 2: ain't gonna never be a swag surf in the White
Speaker 2: House again.
Speaker 4: That I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, we.
Speaker 4: Cele think a white felt look at bad like.
Speaker 2: A swag surfing in a white house. And by the way,
Speaker 2: white people are very passive aggressive.
Speaker 7: I know that. Look how they handle me.
Speaker 2: They tay they love you until the last day, then
Speaker 2: they cut your fucking throat.
Speaker 7: So I'm just saying that I know how they do.
Speaker 2: And by the way, and I was just I was
Speaker 2: just hoping that he had an inclusive thing because what
Speaker 2: they he didn't and what they said was what they're saying.
Speaker 3: He didn't have nobody.
Speaker 4: It was in English, so you're saying the inclusive. The
Speaker 4: exclusivity was the language part, the language part, because my
Speaker 4: thing is if I know, but I wouldn't about.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I wasn't thinking about. And I
Speaker 2: think people made it up, like let me tell you
Speaker 2: something I love, you know, women listen to tell you
Speaker 2: someone n't in mind me for a reason and might
Speaker 2: fuck my life up. I left the Bronx Nigga. It
Speaker 2: was nothing but Dominican women. That was the only woman
Speaker 2: I liked. But I want to protect my people, so
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me tell you what they gonna say
Speaker 2: about you if you don't do this. So that's what
Speaker 2: I was really saying. And he didn't, and it's cool,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if they let us. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna let control that, because remember, the
Speaker 2: NFL is not like the NBA.
Speaker 7: The NBA is controlled by niggas, so you're probably talking.
Speaker 1: On the buses side of things.
Speaker 2: Just the business side. Like the only important thing to
Speaker 2: me is us eating and surviving. People always worry about winning.
Speaker 2: That's the problem what I called to everybody want to win.
Speaker 2: It's not about winning, It's about surviving. Because let's be clear,
Speaker 2: when Dame cursed out Kevin loves he was winning, but
Speaker 2: Kevin Loughs survived, and that's why Kevin Loves worth three
Speaker 2: hundred million. I give what I'm trying to say, and
Speaker 2: sometimes we be so busy trying to win that we
Speaker 2: fucking fuck our shit up because trying to get it's
Speaker 2: my moment. I'm gonna take it. Yeah, but what if
Speaker 2: you shared it? What if you didn't take the moment
Speaker 2: and you shared it next time they have a moment,
Speaker 2: you could say, look what I did with mine. I
Speaker 2: know you're saying, long jelly fish, I can see it.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this though, because this is a double
Speaker 1: ed so because but you do have a good point,
Speaker 1: so I can't even disagree with none of that. But
Speaker 1: I did appreciate the fact that the bad Bunny moment
Speaker 1: was truly authentic to his culture and what he presented.
Speaker 1: Because when they gave Kendrick to stage, it was truly authentic.
Speaker 2: I said him, by the way, as well, I feel like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel.
Speaker 3: Like it was from Kendrick.
Speaker 1: I feel That's what I said, Like it was dope,
Speaker 1: that it was purely authentically him.
Speaker 2: So Kenvill did his show, I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I said, you think you should have split it too,
Speaker 2: but I think no, I think he should have performed
Speaker 2: the hits.
Speaker 1: I said that all day.
Speaker 2: I think I think he remember what I do for
Speaker 2: a living, my nigga, I don't think people understand what
Speaker 2: I do. Me and this nigga right here got it
Speaker 2: going around with someone who we don't know. Figure out
Speaker 2: how to write a speech that's going to change your
Speaker 2: life in the song form, right. You know how hard
Speaker 2: it is When Teharan was Juice, when Taran was like
Speaker 2: with Lizzo with juice, shit, big girl, how the fuck
Speaker 2: can we make this cool? Blame it on my juice.
Speaker 2: I can't help it that I'm losing and nigga. One
Speaker 2: my favorite line torontover Road was when he wrote for Lizzo,
Speaker 2: I'm a thick bitch, I need tempo. Fuck it up
Speaker 2: for the tempo. Fuck it up, put MISSI on it.
Speaker 2: Like nigga, I write speeches for a fucking living bro.
Speaker 2: So when you take what I say person, it was
Speaker 2: weird to me, cause, like, Nigga, I love everybody.
Speaker 5: I don't want to see nobody hurt.
Speaker 2: He sounded like them people because my manager's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3: That's my nigga, Like, I love like.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, hey, Nigga, I will still tell you.
Speaker 2: It's like if I brought my Puerto Rican friend into.
Speaker 4: A racist room. Hey, don't put that shirt on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck that y I want them to know, Nigga,
Speaker 2: we trying to survive.
Speaker 3: I don't want to die today, Nigga.
Speaker 2: Let's survive. Let's get in the room, learn the game,
Speaker 2: and take that shit from them, rather than go in
Speaker 2: the room to make a statement. I don't believe in
Speaker 2: making statements. I may want to look what it did
Speaker 2: to my career. So I always like, nigga, political statements
Speaker 2: might feel good in the moment, it's an emotional win.
Speaker 2: It felt good in the moment, but what happens eight
Speaker 2: months from now or nine months in September when they
Speaker 2: announced Shanaia Twains performing right, well, we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Say, then what happened, nigga?
Speaker 4: You know what happened?
Speaker 2: We went too far the same way they going too
Speaker 2: far right now, and Trump's gonna.
Speaker 3: Suck it up.
Speaker 4: Forts That's my point.
Speaker 2: We're going so far. I'm in the middle. I love everybody.
Speaker 2: If you love love, come to the middle. That's how
Speaker 2: I feel, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying Bron can't argue with that.
Speaker 4: But if we're thinking about the NFL's business mind, I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm assuming because I don't know they're thinking internationally. They're
Speaker 4: trying to become FIFA or whatever the fucking soccer ship.
Speaker 4: So they that's why I feel that they I agree.
Speaker 4: I don't think they give a fuck about bad bunny
Speaker 4: they was.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to sell you the NFL is and
Speaker 2: ain't like the NBA. The NBA is controlled by us,
Speaker 2: Lebron said, I ain't doing it. The reason that that's
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty ship and they were trying to figure.
Speaker 7: Out they was gonna keep the league going. Lebron said,
Speaker 7: I want.
Speaker 3: To play leaves going.
Speaker 2: Lebron said that you understand who those powerful people out
Speaker 2: in the room that control this ship. So when he
Speaker 2: said we're doing it right, I get you. So only
Speaker 2: thing is like money, thing is like when you're a leader.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I say this, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you another thing. I don't think that Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: no different than any of our favorite rappers. He's the
Speaker 2: same as our favorite rapper. You want to break it
Speaker 2: down for y'all niggas, I can break it down. Okay, cool, Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: This is a problem that we don't understand. This is
Speaker 2: why I speak the way I do because I knew
Speaker 2: Trump was gonna win.
Speaker 7: I knew he's gonna be powerful.
Speaker 2: Because that's the first time that's side I had a
Speaker 2: nigga talking like hole talks for us for them.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm trying to say, let's talk, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Tw fifth, twenty twelve thirteen, they put out a statement.
Speaker 2: They put out like that, Like I said, the press
Speaker 2: leaves us, y'all by two thousand and forty, America is
Speaker 2: gonna be a majority Latino niggas.
Speaker 5: Was happiest.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I love Latino women. Bring it off, let's go,
Speaker 2: and then here come Trump. He's the fucking great white
Speaker 2: hope to stop that shit. What was the first bold
Speaker 2: thing he said? I'm gonna build a wall. That's what
Speaker 2: the motherfucking people that was afraid of being a minority wanted.
Speaker 7: He was speaking their language.
Speaker 2: The same way when if Hove is on stage and
Speaker 2: he says some shit like hold so cracked, and niggas
Speaker 2: a like, he's a crack dealer for us.
Speaker 5: We like nigga.
Speaker 4: He doing what we gotta do, niggas, I'm hating on
Speaker 4: our nigga. Trump is the same thing.
Speaker 7: He going what you got to do to get his
Speaker 7: walk in front of his people.
Speaker 2: My only thing is that sometimes when you go against him,
Speaker 2: you like Jean. That was a nigga named Jene Simmons
Speaker 2: that just went against hip hop.
Speaker 3: You're stupid, bro.
Speaker 4: You could have kept that shit to yourself.
Speaker 3: Yet right right, that's a fact.
Speaker 7: By the way, By the.
Speaker 2: Way, you know what I tell people kiss? You know,
Speaker 2: anybody know what kiss stands for? Okay, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you know. They have a famous thing in that that
Speaker 2: when you're when you're up, that's when the.
Speaker 7: Devil shows up.
Speaker 2: Right, kiss stands for kings and Satan service.
Speaker 3: What the fuck do we care?
Speaker 4: What he's saying, I ain't know that the Kings of
Speaker 4: saintan service.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that they give a fuck what you say.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be know where you at, it
Speaker 2: where you're going to. Hell On, nigga, I'm still trying
Speaker 2: to figure out to get the heaven. Every rat niggas
Speaker 2: trying to get to head right now, you know, only
Speaker 2: Nigga to my I'm with Satan.
Speaker 7: Stay right there, nigga. We don't want to be where
Speaker 7: you at.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 2: The only thing is when I don't, people misconstrue what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm a dad. I talk like a dad.
Speaker 2: I act like a father, like when your father is different.
Speaker 2: Like in the house, Mama makes you feel comfortable. Dad
Speaker 2: needs to get you ready. Mom loves you, Dad prepares you.
Speaker 2: I didn't have that in the house. I was just
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna tryuma bump my head. So I
Speaker 2: bumt my hair so many times in one and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what they said, I ain't really true, y'all. Right, but
Speaker 2: they said I ain't really true, y'all. This is another
Speaker 2: way to win, nigga. When me and Toron came into business, Bro,
Speaker 2: when you hit thirty you was done. If you were black,
Speaker 2: tront Is forty fucking three, I could say that proud
Speaker 2: and the ain't no black writer hotter than that nigga
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 7: You know why, nigga, because while.
Speaker 2: Everybody was working on winning Norrie, you know what me
Speaker 2: and Toront was doing planning out survival. You know, Toron,
Speaker 2: you go work with doctor Luke. Every other nigga getting
Speaker 2: role with Luke. They trying to figure out to get.
Speaker 4: A big hit.
Speaker 2: Toront didn't want to hit. Toront want to learn what
Speaker 2: Luke knew. Me and Toronto twenty twelve, we sat down
Speaker 2: with each other. I said, Yo, bro, here's a plan.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go work for La for three years. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna treat that like college. And you go work for
Speaker 2: Luke for three years. You treat that like college. We're
Speaker 2: gonna come back up. We're gonna build our shit. That's
Speaker 2: why he's hot in his grades, got great hair on
Speaker 2: his face, and he still he wrote the biggest song
Speaker 2: of the year last year. Guys.
Speaker 3: That's all I want to say. What great hair in
Speaker 3: his face. The only thing I tell niggas.
Speaker 2: Is while we worried about winning, so I worried about winning,
Speaker 2: survived the game, Survive the game, Learn the game.
Speaker 4: Everybody be so busy trying to come in to win.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to take over. Don't take over yet. I'm
Speaker 4: a very goo.
Speaker 2: I want to do it right Before I do it,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it a nigga. I could
Speaker 2: be making money for my podcast Niggas on my face,
Speaker 2: but my name would be bad right now because I
Speaker 2: took money not knowing what I was doing. Let me
Speaker 2: learn this shit. Plus, I make a million dollars a
Speaker 2: year of music if I get out the better or
Speaker 2: not because I'm man.
Speaker 7: It's the greatest nigga alive and it's.
Speaker 3: A marketing let's talk for the greatest nigga life. Took
Speaker 3: the wrong that's a nigga I make my money with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's real shit though, you dropping jewels, nigga, Bro.
Speaker 5: I just want to I want to help my people, Bro.
Speaker 2: I just want to see niggas eat, Bro, and I'm
Speaker 2: and niggas that are eating don't want to see niggas eating.
Speaker 2: And that's what the truth. That's why they don't say.
Speaker 2: That's why we play each other. That's why we don't
Speaker 2: want each other in the room. Barry Gordy had a
Speaker 2: statement where he said, when he was a kid, he
Speaker 2: used to be a door to door salesman. He made
Speaker 2: so much money his first day he brought his little brother.
Speaker 2: The second day he ain't make no money. The lesson
Speaker 2: you learned was two niggas as bad for the room.
Speaker 2: I disagree. You should teach the nigga how to act
Speaker 2: like you. He just didn't know how to act in
Speaker 2: the room. That's a fact, that's all it is. So
Speaker 2: you should have talked to nigga how to react. So
Speaker 2: now they got two smiling niggas. Rather than one smiling nigga,
Speaker 2: another nigga ain't smile. He smile for your whit folks, nigga,
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to get paid nigga, you sometimes need
Speaker 2: that nigga in the room. Right, So said, we just
Speaker 2: got to get back to you like helping each other.
Speaker 2: And I don't think Black folks trust each other, trust
Speaker 2: each other. Unfortunately, it's the truth.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 7: It's whack, bro. I'm trying to build. I'm trying to we.
Speaker 1: See us as our own enemy. It happens every day.
Speaker 4: Think about it.
Speaker 1: When you're walking down the street, you see a black man,
Speaker 1: you act defensive. You see what you're going to go
Speaker 1: to the sidehere the white guys at.
Speaker 7: Change my whole life. No, somebody told me.
Speaker 2: They said, every time a black man gets successful, when
Speaker 2: he gets to the table, the people at the table
Speaker 2: make him feel like you're different from the others.
Speaker 4: That's why you're here. It's a mental thing. It's like
Speaker 4: super mental. It's the fact you're here because you're.
Speaker 5: Not like them.
Speaker 2: If I'm here because I'm not like them, the one
Speaker 2: thing I want to be more than anything is not
Speaker 2: like them.
Speaker 4: So that's how we That's why we let them manage us,
Speaker 4: their lawyers, their thing.
Speaker 1: That's that's how that's how we gotta throw. They brainwashed
Speaker 1: us to feel like everything black is discounted the cheap.
Speaker 1: You don't go for the black lawyer, you don't go
Speaker 1: for the black executive. No, you take the deal from
Speaker 1: the white man and think it's right because it's coming
Speaker 1: from that side washing telling you we've been fucked up
Speaker 1: a long time. I learned to learn that, but I
Speaker 1: learned that as an adult. We was not that as
Speaker 1: no kid. Yo, man, thank you brother.
Speaker 3: Something. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6: You need to be celebrated.
Speaker 5: Bro, thank you.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 6: Why it's because of everything you just said. Everything you
Speaker 6: just said, it's like kind of crazy. Is because.
Speaker 2: We need to understand what you just said. Bro, Bro
Speaker 2: my nigga, I want to tell you something. If I
Speaker 2: want you to hear this story, this is this is
Speaker 2: one of the moments that fucked my life up in music.
Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of a deal. Never told the
Speaker 2: story publicly. I'm in the middle of a deal, big deal,
Speaker 2: their deal, fuck it, their deal with They want to
Speaker 2: leave Universal to go to another company. I'm already at
Speaker 2: Universal because I got a deal.
Speaker 3: This is your writer.
Speaker 7: This is Tehran missing my writers. They want to sign.
Speaker 2: They'll give the manager deal as long as the writers
Speaker 2: are there. So they gave me my deal. My deal
Speaker 2: ended in April. His shit came up in September, so
Speaker 2: I'll read upped, Like all right, his shit's trying to reup.
Speaker 2: He like, I don't know if I want to stay.
Speaker 2: So we're in the middle of the deal and we
Speaker 2: lose it, right, So we're about to go to another company.
Speaker 4: But who cares if you lose a deal.
Speaker 2: The CEO of Universal calls me and tells me you're done,
Speaker 2: You're black balled. You never could come to my building again.
Speaker 2: Why cause your guys don't want to be here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: I looked out for your motherfucking son.
Speaker 7: Your son was hanging.
Speaker 4: My nigga wrote for your son when he was trying
Speaker 4: to come up now with a sudden because he don't
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 5: Be with you.
Speaker 7: That's how they see us, bro. So they tell us this.
Speaker 2: So now I get on the phone his lawyer, his lawyer.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, bro yo, I just got cursed out
Speaker 2: by her. She told me I'm banned from the building,
Speaker 2: and I know it's not my fault. So he's like
Speaker 2: so he was like, it's crazy. She said that it's
Speaker 2: really her lawyer fault because he didn't send the deal
Speaker 2: over in time. So they felt like, these niggas if
Speaker 2: they want us, why I didn't get the deal. So
Speaker 2: I tell the lawyer, Yo, bro, we should tell her
Speaker 2: then because I just got banned. My nigga, this is
Speaker 2: my life. He literally goes, if I tell her that
Speaker 2: that lawyer gonna get fired. Okay, his exact words, a
Speaker 2: jew getting another jew fired. No, my brother, I gotta
Speaker 2: talk to my rabbi first. Change the way I saw
Speaker 2: the world. Why don't niggas do that for each other.
Speaker 2: Why don't you want me to get a nigga now
Speaker 2: you want a nigga. I'm not doing that to him,
Speaker 2: And we did thatigga, think about like nigga that by
Speaker 2: the way, that dude I got fired and he didn't
Speaker 2: want to make that happen. I gotta talk to my
Speaker 2: rabbi first. We got to be like that as black folks.
Speaker 2: We got to be able to say, we need I
Speaker 2: gotta go talk my mentor my pastor my somebody. Just
Speaker 2: get there, because I'm not gonna throw another black person
Speaker 2: under the bus for myself to survive.
Speaker 7: And we do that to each other.
Speaker 2: So when I saw that, I was like, man, I
Speaker 2: didn't never think that was possible.
Speaker 3: So I like that, Now you want what the black person.
Speaker 7: I ain't doing that shit.
Speaker 4: I ain't doing that.
Speaker 2: I ain't lying in no nigga for you. I ain't
Speaker 2: stealing from no niggas. I If you do something to him,
Speaker 2: I'm telling them, because why the fuck would you put
Speaker 2: me in the middle of that, Because there's a rule
Speaker 2: in this business we never talk about, you know, the
Speaker 2: rule they don't touch the gangsters don't touch white men.
Speaker 5: They only touched black men.
Speaker 3: That's the truth.
Speaker 2: We know that's the rule. That's not the rule, but
Speaker 2: it's the truth. No nigga, that's a street rule. You
Speaker 2: don't touch us. They tell you that you touch us
Speaker 2: might not ever get a check again. You touch each other.
Speaker 2: We cool with that.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: It's just the game.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 5: Just had to learn this shit.
Speaker 2: Once I learned it was set for us to lose,
Speaker 2: I start teaching my niggas how to win. If you
Speaker 2: listen to me, I will say this on record, Toronto,
Speaker 2: my witness. Ain't no nigga on God that ever listened
Speaker 2: to me that didn't get rich with me. That's real
Speaker 2: shit because I only got one go as to get
Speaker 2: rich and with my me and my people.
Speaker 4: So I talked like and that's another thing. I was
Speaker 4: nor you know what I mean, niggas.
Speaker 2: I gave game two that will call me for gaming,
Speaker 2: I'll tell him what to do, and they shit took.
Speaker 4: Off and they didn't call me.
Speaker 2: God damn nigga. But I know why you ain't called
Speaker 2: me because you no, I ain't call me. Care you
Speaker 2: afraid I'm gonna take your bitches. I think I'm playing
Speaker 2: my nigga. This is about bitches because he's the man
Speaker 2: in the room.
Speaker 4: He's the man.
Speaker 3: Now I did this.
Speaker 4: I'm the king and I'm walking in the room and
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna treat them like the king.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna treatim like eat my nigga, and the business
Speaker 2: is gonna like me, and he ain't gonna want me around.
Speaker 3: So you stay your ass at home, nigga. I'll be
Speaker 3: a bigger praser.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, nigga, you wouldn't believe how many niggas
Speaker 2: don't eat because of women in this game.
Speaker 3: What that's real?
Speaker 7: Ship, It's a it's a serious thing.
Speaker 1: But I want to give your props for dropping jewels
Speaker 1: because you definitely gave me some jewels that I took
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give you say thank you to you.
Speaker 1: Give me the opportunity, both of y'all. Can we talk
Speaker 1: about show?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: I want to know what about They gave me a show?
Speaker 4: Can we can we talk about give me opportunity?
Speaker 5: Tell me about it.
Speaker 1: I can't want to drink champs. He said, Hey, we
Speaker 1: fun with you. You want your own show. I was nervous
Speaker 1: at first, but I said yeah, niggah, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. I was mad, nervous. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do it. He gave me the best
Speaker 1: Joe up. He said, don't overthink it, just shoot what
Speaker 1: you want to see. I was like, oh shit, say
Speaker 1: let's man, so tell me about it. So I'm doing
Speaker 1: my own version of rap city. I feel like it
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. So it's not a podcast of a TV show.
Speaker 1: I'm doing rap City. Shout out the big pick a
Speaker 1: pig tick of for Lane, the Foundations. It's my version
Speaker 1: of rap city. So I sit down with the artist,
Speaker 1: we talk kicking kicky kick. But instead of the rapping
Speaker 1: in a booth, they're gonna rap with my live band, Nigga.
Speaker 1: I gotta I don't ask live band, so they spit.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever soon you.
Speaker 4: Want to do.
Speaker 1: But really I just want you to dumb out and
Speaker 1: go crazy. Whatever you want to spit, it's got to
Speaker 1: be classic. My show ain't to show for I got
Speaker 1: a promal room. Let me go promote the single. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. I want to make classic moments
Speaker 1: in time. That's it. I don't care about content or that.
Speaker 1: I don't go fuck about that I want whatever we
Speaker 1: create the last ever, pitch your best verse that.
Speaker 4: You never spied now where or spit your favorite verse.
Speaker 3: Spit it.
Speaker 4: Whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: Laura can come on the show.
Speaker 4: Do what what go crazy?
Speaker 1: Do some CNN ship, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 4: Just classic ship.
Speaker 1: That niggas want to head with the live band and
Speaker 1: if we talk about some real ship so it's not
Speaker 1: version of rap.
Speaker 3: And it's coming. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 5: Man, I've seen.
Speaker 2: I'm a student. I watch y'all.
Speaker 6: I was like no, but we want to we want
Speaker 6: to end this with you because because I'm gonna be
Speaker 6: honest with you.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're one of the like you know, uh, thank
Speaker 3: you still some in the ice.
Speaker 13: The legendary industry people done it, man, you've done it.
Speaker 3: We want to respect you. Whatever it is working and.
Speaker 6: That ship is dope, bro, Thank you, like really what
Speaker 6: you did and really what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 7: And I'm still doing it and still.
Speaker 5: Doing it and I just I just want to give
Speaker 5: your flowers.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Bro. Indeed, so hold on, where's where's all right?
Speaker 4: Let's go my dog? Yeah, I got I got to
Speaker 4: with you, my brother.
Speaker 1: Serious indeed, real real quick though, before we end anything,
Speaker 1: I do have a serious industry question.
Speaker 5: It's not serious, that's anything.
Speaker 3: It's pretty vague from the sound of it.
Speaker 4: You feel that writing today is more important than the
Speaker 4: recording artist.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no no, I think I think
Speaker 2: the I'm sorry before because.
Speaker 4: We're going we've all know that the days of physicals
Speaker 4: that made a ton of money for everybody changed with streaming,
Speaker 4: and we're all complaining. Everybody's complaining about streaming and not
Speaker 4: making money from it. So it feels like the the
Speaker 4: economics of being the writer is more valuable in streaming.
Speaker 3: No, hell no, what So that's.
Speaker 7: Reason why were making money because we got radio records.
Speaker 5: Streaming don't pay right as shit.
Speaker 2: That's the fact, right, I mean you can have If
Speaker 2: you could be a platinum songwriter of a song and
Speaker 2: you made twenty four thousand dollars of a song that
Speaker 2: went platinum one hundred and fifty million streams, you made
Speaker 2: what a twenty four thousand songwriter they get treated with.
Speaker 4: And when you say radio, you mean terrestrial. Shout out
Speaker 4: to is also talking about this all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to have radio to win, and you
Speaker 2: have to like that's how we eat. We like we
Speaker 2: make radio records. We make like I don't let me
Speaker 2: say something. I don't even go in the room with people.
Speaker 5: You gots throng.
Speaker 7: That's how rule were all out in the project.
Speaker 5: Right now we're out at the project.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 2: So like what y'all doing with the project? Y'all going out?
Speaker 2: You're like going to radio? Like no, no, we just
Speaker 2: working the streets, all right, Cool, all right, cool? I
Speaker 2: mean to see what I got for you. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying I won't give you something that I got, but
Speaker 2: I'm not stopping my day for you. You ain't even
Speaker 2: trying to go to radio, nigga, Like what are you
Speaker 2: talking about? So we eat because of radio. My thoughts
Speaker 2: on the music business is music sucks because some people
Speaker 2: from the tech world came in and zoomed on artists,
Speaker 2: on artists alone. It was like they focused on the artists,
Speaker 2: like artists, why are you giving up so much? Because
Speaker 2: they didn't value people like us. Now people like us
Speaker 2: are gone and music sucks. So my only thing is
Speaker 2: to say is that the artist is the meal, but
Speaker 2: we are the chefs are the and R is a chef,
Speaker 2: the producer of the chef. The songwriters and chef is
Speaker 2: some artists don't know how to cook.
Speaker 7: Whitney Houston never wrote a lyric in her life.
Speaker 4: She was still the biggest artists on earth right.
Speaker 2: Like it's like sometimes think artists in his time is
Speaker 2: so business is so zoomed in on us right now,
Speaker 2: own your masters, own your this, own your that. My
Speaker 2: thing is make a fucking hit first, learn how to
Speaker 2: make a hit. That's like like walking in the room
Speaker 2: you worried about like you worried about the business. It's like,
Speaker 2: I want to come here and do some business with y'all.
Speaker 2: I got to learn the room first. I ki'd just say, no,
Speaker 2: get your contracts out. Let's talk about the business.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 4: We don't know you. We might not even like you. Nigga.
Speaker 4: Can you sit down and let us get to know
Speaker 4: you for me get to know you.
Speaker 2: We don't have that no more, we don't have the
Speaker 2: turant is successful and nobody does this.
Speaker 7: I do this.
Speaker 2: Somebody want to meet with Taran, want work with my artists.
Speaker 2: They got to meet me first.
Speaker 1: So you you was managing you man. You know it's dope.
Speaker 1: Shout out to toront too. What was dope is that
Speaker 1: you're a person that shares jewels, protect the artists and
Speaker 1: integrity of things, and help God because as a writer,
Speaker 1: I wrote a bunch of shit too, But I never
Speaker 1: had the guidance. I got jerk a million out of
Speaker 1: a million situations. You know I didn't because I didn't
Speaker 1: know the business early. I don't know so many records
Speaker 1: that I got bad deal because I didn't know no better.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So he got the guidance partnership from you rather, and
Speaker 1: that shit is important.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I'm the nigga. I don't
Speaker 2: feel like I'm a nigga for a lot of reason.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the nigga. Find my family love me.
Speaker 2: But you know, I really feel like I'm the nigga
Speaker 2: because I'm here. Every nigga that's here that do what
Speaker 2: I do. They manage your mother. They managed Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: I managed the nigga that block for him. I managed
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I managed the center that gives him
Speaker 2: the ball and make sure nobody hears.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 4: Let me take let me let me tell you what
Speaker 4: I'm supportant.
Speaker 2: Because now, if you're in the NFL, you know, if
Speaker 2: the offensive line man, but if you were just a fan,
Speaker 2: of football, you know, Tom Brady. I come in and
Speaker 2: room with a nigga that don't even want to be
Speaker 2: known by y'all niggas, and I come in here and
Speaker 2: I make a name for myself because I served everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm me and Toronto Master P. We served the whole business,
Speaker 2: my nigga. Now we're here to get our own ship,
Speaker 2: and my ship is media. He got, we got the label,
Speaker 2: We got the artist. We got three or four artists
Speaker 2: signed out out of our label to majors, not like
Speaker 2: sitting at home waiting like everybody signed. Because we do
Speaker 2: this ship and we really coaching. So for me, I
Speaker 2: just I hate to not see niggas eat.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: That's I swear to God, y'all.
Speaker 2: If anybody watching ship, the one thing I care about
Speaker 2: more than anything is niggas eating because of a nigga
Speaker 2: eat when you eat, and noy You notice when a
Speaker 2: nigga started eating, he come up, He become.
Speaker 4: A better person. That's the fact he starts spending out
Speaker 4: better messages.
Speaker 2: Look at you, nigga, nigga, I would have been scared
Speaker 2: of seeing that noise.
Speaker 4: Watch your.
Speaker 2: Na is nord. Can you understand now learn about the nigga,
Speaker 2: and I tell you this. I said, the last thing
Speaker 2: is important. Here's why we're gonna win. And this is
Speaker 2: what i'mnna tell y'allnigga. This is my advice to y'all
Speaker 2: on real ship, because what y'all doing is fire, because
Speaker 2: that's kind of what leans in it.
Speaker 3: Hip hop.
Speaker 2: For the first time when I was a kid, when
Speaker 2: my mom was my mom was listening to and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure all y'all can relate our parents was listening.
Speaker 4: To their music. Hip Hop was our music for the.
Speaker 2: First time in history. Hip Hop is our music and
Speaker 2: our his music. So that means there's a huge opportunity
Speaker 2: to bring the dinner table together.
Speaker 3: Other than that's like fake. Nicki Minaj like hey, rapping
Speaker 3: like NIGGI is hip hop and Jason people then hip
Speaker 3: hop writing those records.
Speaker 2: My sister, my my daughter, wrapped.
Speaker 4: That ship like not Dotty and she be doing to
Speaker 4: dance and ship and I'm like that, So I got
Speaker 4: every morning I was, I was done, done, done.
Speaker 3: This is like records.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, you did this.
Speaker 3: That's my point.
Speaker 2: But my thing I'm trying to tell us in the
Speaker 2: hip hop community is our problem. Are we not rich
Speaker 2: is because we're running from everything hip hop. Hip hop
Speaker 2: has matured. Fifty years is fifty years story. You don't
Speaker 2: think there should be a TV show on CNN, not
Speaker 2: the fucking TV SChannel. Nigga called Poona nore Yega Nigga
Speaker 2: a TV show because now you're here, think about it
Speaker 2: was a TV show on wol Tang. We got so
Speaker 2: many stories to tell. You got meach Me, which is
Speaker 2: one of the biggest dope boys. His son is playing him.
Speaker 2: That's what we are and why is the son playing him?
Speaker 2: Because the show is ran by nigga and hip hop.
Speaker 2: I feel like the reason why we so fucked up
Speaker 2: out here is because we don't want to be We
Speaker 2: want to be everything but hip hop.
Speaker 7: Nigga. We got fifty years, fifty stories, Nigga.
Speaker 5: We need it.
Speaker 7: We got so many opportunities to bring the family together.
Speaker 4: And I want to say something that's important I think
Speaker 4: might fly with a lot of people's heads.
Speaker 3: Bad Bunny at the super Bowl. That's a hip hop story,
Speaker 3: Bad Bunny.
Speaker 4: That doesn't happen if hip hop doesn't happen, and it's
Speaker 4: hip hop and it is a part of hip hop,
Speaker 4: And I think bad.
Speaker 3: Bunny he won.
Speaker 4: They're all originally MC that couldn't make it as MC's
Speaker 4: in Puerto Rico that started to do you know.
Speaker 2: And tell people every artist is a bottle of water.
Speaker 2: You're a water in a cup. You gotta package yourself up.
Speaker 2: If I put if I took a fucking a centire
Speaker 2: bottle of water and a cheap bottle of water, and
Speaker 2: I poured him in a fucking bowl, you don't know
Speaker 2: which one is. Whish my, nigga, they look the same.
Speaker 2: Why do you know to pay three dollars for that
Speaker 2: one and fifty cent for that one? Because the fucking packaging,
Speaker 2: that's it, nigga. It could be the same water for
Speaker 2: all we know. It's the packaging. So artists don't package themselves.
Speaker 2: They so busy showed up saying look at my water.
Speaker 2: We don't care, nigga, Get with a producer, get with
Speaker 2: a manager, get with a songwriter, give with a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Let them put that package together and get money.
Speaker 4: Nigga, Sorry, I'm tired, right right, you're right, fuck right,
Speaker 4: We don't care. Nigga and Bad Bundy miss two nods
Speaker 4: in his performance, or Amy Conto should have had a
Speaker 4: nod mm hm and.
Speaker 3: They hit it out. Should have had to mention at
Speaker 3: the very least. I'm gonna be honest because he paid homage.
Speaker 3: He paid homage.
Speaker 1: If anybody that was paying attention like the bad Bunny shit,
Speaker 1: it was dope. And for Latino, I'm super chronicle Spanish
Speaker 1: and the American.
Speaker 2: Remember the vantage of Mike had a whole it was
Speaker 2: about five hundred people watching. They didn't give a fuck
Speaker 2: about the game. They was like it was that was
Speaker 2: the super Bowl was amazing beneath everybody was picking in
Speaker 2: the part and that's what That's what because it was
Speaker 2: so cultural.
Speaker 4: That's what I personally.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it because of that reason, the same reason why
Speaker 1: I appreciate the candring ship, you know, because it was
Speaker 1: so even though whether it was the best performance or not,
Speaker 1: in fact, the fact that it was you just get me.
Speaker 2: So we have to say what I'm gonna say this
Speaker 2: NFL because I ain't never looked at the camera, which
Speaker 2: I hear me out the NFL. I once you to
Speaker 2: understand there's no one podcast in the world we're talking
Speaker 2: about the super Bowl. If Shanaya Twain or anybody with
Speaker 2: that mayonnaise Vanilla performs. You're not gonna have that four
Speaker 2: six weeks of conversation around.
Speaker 3: This were giving him. I'm trying to tell you as
Speaker 3: much as.
Speaker 4: You think y'all sitting around right now saying where we
Speaker 4: could go stay with us. They're gonna watch the game,
Speaker 4: they're gonna complain about us.
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