1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition, Holiday weekend edition 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I know 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you may already be on the roads. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: They are saying that it is going to be one 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: of the busiest July fourth weekends of all time, as 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: all of as I call them the Corona Rows, start 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to come out of their basements with their triple masks 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: on and realize that they can celebrate the fact that 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: we've got along weekend coming. Buck Sexton, you are headed 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: straight back to New York City the minute the show 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: is over NYC. Baby Spirit Airlines Part two. Let me 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: tell you it, it lives up to the height that 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: was my experid. I will be rolling right out. I have, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: hopefully my wife is going to be there with the 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: kids already to roll because we have got Atlanta Braves action. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: We're headed down to Atlanta for a July fourth weekend 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: extravaganza three game series against the Marlins, and I'm excited, 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: although I know you're not very excited. You're not a 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: big firework guy. I am not that into fire. Let 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: me just say I'm gonna be with my girlfriend this weekend, 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna do whatever she wants to do 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: for because I wanted to be a happy I've learned 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: this right, happy wife, happy life, happy already learned it, 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Happy girlfriend, happy life. So we may go up to 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the top of a roof, so that 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: in my roof, I live in a pretty tall building, 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: so we can see the fireworks. I believe they're over 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: the East River this year, and I never really know 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: how they you know, I can just see them, you know, 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: they're up in the sky. But here's my contention, And 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: then I do want us to dive into how how 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: absolutely mind blowingly absurd the charges against Donald Trump. I've 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: we've been texting about this, but I'll just say this 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: about fireworks, and maybe some people because we do have 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: open loan open line Friday here and so maybe we'll 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: get some folks to weigh on this. Fireworks for your kids. 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I love it right for anyone out there for their kids. 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I feel like, as if you're an adult, you've seen fireworks, 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you've seen the fireworks. I don't know. I don't get that. 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, if I had kids, I would absolutely take them, 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: But for me, I'm kind of iffy on it. And 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: one thing, I don't like setting the fireworks myself. I'll 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: say that too. I love fireworks. I liked well, I 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: don't like setting them off myself. I'm not you know, 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I like Mountain Dew. I'm kind of a redneck at 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: least growing up in Tennessee, and I know everybody around 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: here will go buy their own fireworks. And I know 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, depending on what they live, 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: they do that as well. But when I was in 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: college in DC, go down by the mall and be 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: able to lay and look at the fireworks overhead. Tonight 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the Braves are doing a fireworks extravaganza, which I'm pretty 54 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: excited about. So that is going on where there are 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: not fireworks. That's what you call an incredible radio transition 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: for those of you not out in the business. The 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, Buck Sexton has been expecting that they were 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: going to have their own fireworks surrounding Donald Trump for 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: over four years now. They talked about Stormy Daniels and 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the federal election violations based on aimens to her and 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: how Donald Trump was done and he was gonna get 62 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: impeached they talked about impeachment part one with Ukraine and 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: impeachment part two with the insurrection, and all the time 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: out there we had Russia collusion, and now we have 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: This has been the one that they have been teasing forever. Buck, 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, you've been talking about this. They've been talking 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: about it for years. Donald Trump's going to go to prison. 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: The Trump organization is so corrupt. Another swing and a 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: miss Buck, and I'll dive into the legality behind it 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and why I think it's total crap. But this is 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: just another failure. So I have a slightly different view 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: of it, and it's that it goes back to what 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I've said to you before, Clay. The process is the punishment. 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: So here's what I would agree with you on They 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: overpromise on this stuff all the time. Right, Donald Trump 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: was gonna get frog marched in handcuffs out of the 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Oval office because of Russia collusion. There were people who 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: believe that was true. Major news network, they believe that 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: was true, that there were going to be major prosecutions 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: of top Trump officials either while he was in office 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: or remember there was the whole after the Trump Tower meeting, 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: it was, oh, Donald Trump Junior or Jared they may 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: be going to prison. Now, I can tell you neither 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Donald j Don Junior nor Jared were worried they were 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: going to prison over that. I could tell you that. 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: But this is the storyline they tell them. So you're 87 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: correcting that they vastly over promise and under deliver, and 88 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: they do that to keep the left wing base one 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: clicking and watching and two happy. They kind of feed 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: them this insanity. But I get angry about this because 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the process is the punishment, just like with Russia collusion, 92 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: just like with this, right, you and I see this, 93 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna break down the charges and 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: we should get to that so everyone understands exactly how 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean. I call it Mickey Mouse yesterday, right JV. 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, however we want to describe this is it's embarrassing. 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: This is traffic ticket kind of stuff that they're going after. 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: These guys were in the grand scheme of things. I mean, 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, it will tell you the numbers and everything else, 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: But think of all the time spent on lawyers, Think 101 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: of all the time spent by people involved in the 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: investigation sitting down, look at what they did with the 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: Muther probe. It was process crimes that were always being 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: charged with one exception really, which was Paul Manaford, and 105 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: I guess his partner, which was tax stuff. They got 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Russia collusion. This is the game 107 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: they play. They punish you with the process, they send 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: a message to everybody else as a result of it, 109 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and they're just going to keep doing it. It's such 110 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: a sham. And this is one that I think the 111 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Supreme Court got wrong years and years ago, and it 112 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: actually dealt with Bill Clinton. Do you remember when the 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: argument was civil lawsuits all to PAULA Jones mess I 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: do think that was correct, that it was going to 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: turn into such an unbelievable political parade, and you've seen 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: it happen since then. Right, doesn't matter who the president is, 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: there are legal entanglements basically that surround the president throughout 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: this to me investigation of the Trump organization. Let's talk 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: big picture here. Three years, three years to look over 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: all of this data book and look every single line 121 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: of a tax return, every single aspect of the organization 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and the business. If any prosecutor in America investigates for 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: three years, any decent sized business in America I legitimately 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: believe that they can find something that they decide is 125 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: inappropriate from their perspective associated with the tax return. And 126 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: I believe that could be with the most scrupulous, honest, 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: most least aggressive warriors and accountants. You could imagine trying 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: to do everything right. You spend three years looking at 129 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: any company's books, and you can find some way, somehow 130 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: to argue that the those books are not appropriate. Listeners 131 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: to this show will recall Rush Limbaugh saying back in 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, I leiave that he had been audited, 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: his tax returns audited twelve years in a row. It's 134 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the New York State tax 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: authorities were openly harassing him and he moved to Florida, 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and the then I believe it was acting Governor Patterson 137 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: at the time or the new Governor Patterson at the 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: time said if they knew that they could get rushed 139 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: to leave New York State and moved to Florida, that 140 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: with tax harassment, they would have done it ten years earlier. 141 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't even hiding from it. This is 142 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: active political harassment against the Trumps. They were politically harassing 143 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Rush himself. God rested him when he was the you know, 144 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: the thing that was scaring the left the most on air. 145 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: So this is where we are now. They keep doing this. 146 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I'll let me tell you this book. It's funny you 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: mentioned at when I sold OutKick to Fox, and then 148 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: when I took this job, my accountants and my lawyers 149 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: both said, your risk of audit just went from relatively 150 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: low to insane because there are lots of people who 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: now that you are stepping into this realm, you're associated 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: with Fox and Fox News, you are associated now with 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. They said you are going to get scrutinized 154 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: with a fine tooth comb in a way that when 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: you were just doing sports and when you were just 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: running a normal you know, sports related business and there 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a connection to Fox, and you weren't stepping in 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: for Rush, you weren't going to get harassed on that 159 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: same level. This is what my lawyers and my accountants 160 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: said to me. So I think it's flagrantly unfair, But 161 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: this is are the conversations we have because of political 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: prosecutions like this. You meet anybody who's out there willing 163 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: to step up and tow the line sometimes and say 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: things that are unpopular. We're targets in a way that 165 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the average person is not. And I didn't even know 166 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: the Rush story from two thousand and nine, but they 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: specifically said, this is what's going to happen to you 168 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: every year. Yes, And they didn't even What was so 169 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: amazing about that was that Democrats in the State of 170 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: New York government, including the governor himself, We're like, oh, great, 171 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: we harassed Rush with audits year after year. Yeah, we 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: got what we wanted, which is the terrifying right. This 173 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: is this is what I mean. We have to understand 174 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: the left of today. And by the left, I meet 175 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and everything around it and the apparatus 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: of it. They don't care, they don't have shame about 177 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: these things. This is power dynamics playing out when they 178 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: can wield power against us, when they can go after 179 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: a Trump, a Rush. Talking to you, Clay here about 180 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: what you're, by the way, small potatoes compared to those guys. 181 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: But this is this is a legitimate conversation that I 182 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: had with my lawyers and accountants about the decisions that 183 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I've made my career. Every right wing person I know 184 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: in public life has this concern. So think about going 185 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: back to how you're right swinging a miss on what 186 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: they promise. But we're sitting here having a conversation about 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: how the Justice Department, Russia collusion and so many other things. 188 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean I went through the other day, Chris Christy, Governor, 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: Bob McDonald, Scott Walker, Rick Perry. These are all people 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: who are prominent national level Republicans who have been targets 191 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: of bogus criminal investigations, sometimes stretching out for years. So 192 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: even when they can't prove it because it wasn't real, 193 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the process is the punishment, and it makes people like 194 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: you and me think about this. And by the way, 195 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of a lot of our 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: friends listening right now, I feel the same way about this. Guys, 197 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: how many of you would be sweating if the irs 198 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: knew that you were a Trump supporter, knew you were 199 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: a Clay and Buck listener, and you knew that they 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: knew it, and they were going to go through the 201 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: last five years or seven years of all your business 202 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: or all your personal tax returns. I can't think of 203 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: a person who wouldn't be deeply anxious. I mean, I 204 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: would be this is why the Supreme Court decision. By 205 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: the way, we talked about the six to three decision 206 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: out of Arizona, but California tried to get the ability 207 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: to see who was donating to conservative causes, right, and 208 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: the ability to donate money out there at times without 209 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: having the government able to scrutinize every single dollar you spend. 210 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: But Buck, look at the front cover like, I know 211 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: you make fun of me about my obsession with actual 212 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: print copy newspapers. I'm just jealous that you can actually 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: maneuver the pages. Yeah, I know how to turn the pages. 214 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: That's how old school I am. Front page of the 215 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: New York Times. And when we come back out of 216 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: this next break, we will actually dive into the charges 217 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and we will explain to you why they are complete 218 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: and total crap. But I just talking about a propaganda network. 219 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Front page New York Times. Trump's business charged in audacious 220 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: tax scheme. They have Weisselberg on handcuffs, the purp walk 221 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: on the picture at the top, and then two different 222 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: additional headlines prosecutors described fifteen years of hiding executives, luxury, 223 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: perks and bonuses, and then the news analysis. This is 224 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: all in the front page, striking at the heart of 225 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: ex president's image. It's all I gotta be careful what 226 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: word I use here. Bs. I think we say bullcrap. Bullcrap. 227 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: We need a word that personifies what this is that 228 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: is not an explative laden attack. We don't want the FCC. 229 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: It is gosh darned bullcrap. Clay, I'm with you on 230 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: that one. We're gonna come back and get more into 231 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: the details of this, and also we want to hear 232 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: from all of you across the country. It is open 233 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: line Friday. Obviously we're gonna keep that tradition going here. 234 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two eight two eight a two. That's eight 235 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight a two. We're just 236 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: getting to the very beginning of a whole bunch of 237 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: topics that will include things like San Jose having attacks 238 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: on gun ownerships. A sprinter who smoked weed maybe a 239 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: month ago, who can't go to the Olympics now. But 240 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the guy who says he's a woman now is able 241 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: to compete against women in that's a great point weightlifting. 242 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting. To take all the drugs necessary to make 243 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: him a woman. Yes, that's not totally cool, you know. 244 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Five x the testosterone level. That's a great analogy, but 245 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: a little weed and you're out anyway. We'll get into that, 246 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: but you know, look, this Independence Day weekend, we want 247 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: you to have a great time with your family because 248 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: it is a true celebration and this is all about 249 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: patriotism for you, for me, for our families, and what 250 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: a great country we live in. But part of that 251 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: is also the obligation that we have to those who 252 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: have served, and that never goes away. That's a sacred 253 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: obligation and that's where the Tunnel to Towers Foundation comes in. 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: They help us never forget. This year, the Tunnel to 255 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Towers Foundation is honoring GoldStar and Fallen first responder families 256 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: with young children and catastrophically injured veterans at first Responders 257 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: by providing them with two hundred mortgage free homes. 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Sleet Travis and 274 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: buck Sext the inspired by rush on the EIB network 275 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show rolling into 276 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: July fourth edition of the program, by the way, one 277 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: sign that they were swinging and missing on their ability 278 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to bring legitimate charges against Donald Trump's organization buck Sexton, 279 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: they dropped them going into a holiday weekend. If you 280 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: think you have got a big time story that is 281 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: going to dominate the news cycle and is going to 282 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: make you the hero of left wing activists everywhere, you 283 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: don't decide to drop it on a Thursday afternoon, going 284 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: into a holiday weekend, we're gonna start to discuss some 285 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: of these charges and why they are so illegitimate. We've 286 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: got a relatively quick segment here, but I do think 287 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: it's significant to consider when these charges are coming out 288 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and the fact one more time that Donald Trump is 289 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: not implicated at all. And I wonder on some level 290 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: how much of this is just you spend three years 291 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: and tens of millions of dollars investigating anything, and then 292 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: you go back and you say, oh, by the way, 293 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: we haven't found anything, or we're gonna introduce some minor 294 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: civil penalty, somebody's going to pay a few hundred thousand 295 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: dollars in payments over disputes about tax returns. You look 296 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: like such a failure. Your political career is over. These 297 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: das are political figures, make no mistake, particularly the ones 298 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: who are conducting investigations like these. And so you've got 299 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: all these crimes, by the way, that are committed by 300 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden that nobody seems to want pay any attention 301 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: to at all, which are tangible, significant and real not 302 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: allowed to talk about it, actually shutting down news organizations 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: like The New York Post wanted to point out to 304 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: people that there was something something funky going on, and 305 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: you got mildly. You got car leases and apartments that 306 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: are the focus of a multi year investigation. This is 307 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: all you've got. So let me look, it's why. What 308 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: were the chances that they were actually going to come 309 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: through this without some charge against the Trump organization between 310 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: because that what it really would have been is a 311 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: giant vote of confidence. It would have been like a 312 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: check mark in the plus column for what a squeaky 313 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: clean organization Trump is running. You go after them for 314 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: three years at this level and you bring no charges, 315 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: you're effectively saying, wow, a Trump organization is incredibly on 316 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: the level. We can't even get them on some minor 317 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: tax thing. And when you read the charges, as you're 318 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: pointing out, you look at some of this stuff like 319 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: running a Mercedes lease through the company and not paying 320 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: the appropriate attacks on it as a benefit. I mean, 321 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: this is the kind of stuff that any normal American 322 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: would say, I have to ask my accountant about this 323 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: in the first place, and even if you did, it 324 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: would be a dispute. This is my point that I 325 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: was making yesterday. Buck Art not science. If you give 326 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: the tax return to ten different accountants. They will come 327 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: back with dollars that you owe that are different, All 328 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: ten of them will. It's wild, it's insane, and we're 329 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to break it all down for you. 330 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: But you know what also is wild and insane. How 331 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: about letting all of your cherished family memories on vhs, 332 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: on old photos, all of it disappear because we've moved 333 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: into a digitized era, particularly as we move even more 334 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: into the wedding season. Maybe you're sitting around recognizing I 335 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: got married seventeen years ago. 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That's the legacybox dot Com 345 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: slash Clay and Bucks for forty percent off. You're listening 346 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network. 347 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Sheryl 348 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: Open Line Friday Underway eight hundred two A two two 349 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: eight A two. Make sure you subscribe. A great time 350 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: to catch up on any hours or days you missed 351 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: of the Clay Travison Buck Sexton Show earlier this week 352 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: on the podcast, The Clay Travis and Buck section Show 353 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: podcast available wherever you listen to podcast. The iHeart app 354 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a great place to start. You can also do Apple podcasts. 355 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: We are just behind NPR. Clay and are Clay and 356 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: I are not giving up. I know, I know, those 357 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: those commies that, yeah, if you want to hear about 358 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: how to make the best you know, summer salad or something, 359 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe they've got that, But we've got all the other 360 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: good stuff you need to hear. So let's beat NPR. 361 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: We're narrowly. I mean, I thought we were gonna take 362 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: him down last night, because they can look and see 363 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: how tightly we got to the NPR show. We almost 364 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: got him. We're gaining on him for sure, so good 365 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: for us, good for America. Now, one note that I 366 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: want to throw into this because Clay's about to tell 367 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: us about some of the specific charges and just getting 368 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: this a little bit more, because we think this goes 369 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: to just show you what there's a lesson for us too. 370 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: They want the lesson to be don't stand up to 371 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: the system, don't before America First or MAGO or any 372 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of that. Stay away from Trump if you try, not 373 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: only will we try to ruin you in office, we 374 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: will try to ruin you afterwards, will come after you, 375 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: We'll come after your family. Let's not forget that. There 376 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of legal think pieces out there on 377 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: how state charges could have been brought against Trump associates 378 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: or his children even and people were excited on the 379 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: left about this. They wanted to try to find a 380 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: state criminal charge in New York, a blue state, no surprise, 381 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: against you, Jared or Don Junior or Ivanka or whomever, 382 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: because the president can't pardon state charges. So they were 383 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: trying to find ways to gain the legal system to 384 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: use it as a weapon against Trump when he's in office. 385 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: And now they continue with it to this day. It 386 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: is a witch hunt. It is a campaign of harassment. 387 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: And if they can do it to Trump, they can 388 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: do this to anyone, and will that's another part of 389 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the message that you should have from all of this. Clay. 390 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: You read through the actual and I read through this 391 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: morning as well, the actual indictment. Yes, and anyone who 392 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: says this is anything other than a politicized embarrassment is 393 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: either lying or delusional or not paying attention to the 394 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: actual facts, which, to your point, I think was a 395 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: really good When we started off the show, you said, 396 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: the process is the punishment. The idea that you are dishonest, 397 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: that you are a liar, that you were going to 398 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: suffer severe consequences is such a media story and colossus 399 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: that it becomes a many people's minds self fulfilling. So 400 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: I talked about this and wrote about it this morning, 401 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: and I went through when I was kind of curious 402 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: to see, and a lot of people said, oh, well, 403 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: you just don't even care about fifteen felonies that were brought, 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you understand that all felonies are not 405 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: created equal, and that if you actually go back and 406 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: look at the results of most of these investigations, these 407 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: are civil penalties. Bucks. So here's basically what happened in 408 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: a nutshell, one point seven million dollars according to the 409 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: charges in misattributed over the last fifteen years, basically misattributed 410 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: basically should have been income. Is the argument that was 411 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: not where did this come from? Well, the company in 412 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: particular was paying for least Mercedes bins, a couple of them. 413 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: They were for the CFO here, they were paying and 414 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: helping with apartment related costs, and there were some tuition 415 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: related payments that the company was being involved in. It 416 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: all added up to one point seven million dollars. And 417 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: for most people out there, if they were not connected 418 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, do you know, first of all, this 419 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: never comes to white because one point seven million dollars 420 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: over fifteen years is like one hundred thousand dollars a 421 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: year in misattributed income buck, which is such a tiny 422 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: pinprick of the overall tax returns that it's negligible. Most 423 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: people would have never noticed it. This reminds me also 424 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: of how things are treated so differently in the media 425 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: and by the Democrat activists who happened to be prosecutors. 426 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them these days. They're all over 427 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the place. You know, I have a family member just 428 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: graduated from law school recently. I know you went to 429 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: law school clay here in Nashville some years back. But 430 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: they are now indoctrination factories for leftists. If you don't 431 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: go in there with your own ideas, your own beliefs, 432 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: you'll come out thinking that you should put you know, 433 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: BLM on your Instagram page and you ye pronouns and 434 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: your pronouns. And this is what law schools are teaching 435 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: people now. So if you're wondering how that's happening, and 436 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: particularly the so called elite law schools. But I just 437 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: am reminded. You know, I like history, Claylis history. What 438 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: was it? Back in about twenty fourteen, Al Sharpton, according 439 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: to the the New York Post and the New York Times, 440 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: owed four point five million dollars in unpaid state and 441 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: federal taxes. Now I'm just wondering. I mean, I'm not 442 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: a big math guy, but four point five million for 443 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: one individual is more than one point seven million. Do 444 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: you think they spent years and years going after this 445 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: guy for illness? And no, I mean probably MSNBC probably 446 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: gave him a raise. They could care less about this. 447 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: But see, this is the kind of thing that, if 448 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: you're a Democrat, is no big deal. Okay, he owes 449 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of back taxes. Who doesn't. Oh yeah, 450 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: who hasn't taken the deduction for a lunch when they 451 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't have, Right, that's the attitude when it's a Democrat, 452 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: when it's a Republican. Basically, Donald Trump's organization skipping out 453 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: on one hundred thousand dollars a year of murky gray 454 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: area taxation is a threat to our democracy. And if 455 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you don't agree, you're hitler. That's what we're supposed to know. 456 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: That's honestly that it's straight from the MSNBC talking points. 457 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: But what would ordinarily happen in a case like this. 458 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: First of all, there would never be a three year investigation. 459 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: But let's presume that it was uncovered, as you just said, 460 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Al Sharpton, four point five million dollars. Let's say that 461 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: this gentleman that Alan Weisselberg ends up owning owing one 462 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: point seven million dollars. His accountants would come back with 463 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: their own explanation of why they paid tax the way 464 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: they did. There would be a negotiation with the irs, 465 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: and there would be some form of settlement. Let's say 466 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: the let's say they're saying, hey, you owe us one 467 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: point seven million dollars. Your accountants make an argument, the 468 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: irs accountants make an argument, and let's say you settle 469 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: what often happens somewhere in the middle right, eight hundred 470 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I don't know the financial exact status of 471 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: this guy, but I'm betting that he could pay eight 472 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in back taxes. Story goes away. There's 473 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: never a perp walk, he's not charged with fifteen felonies. 474 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: This is never in any way covered as a legitimate story. 475 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: This is about using a political operative in the District 476 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: Attorney's office to go after Donald Trump because he's a 477 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Republican and because he's on the wrong side of New 478 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: York politics, just like we saw with Rudy Giuliani getting 479 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: his law license suspended. And the reason why people of 480 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: reasonable minds out there should care about a story like 481 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: this is you are bringing the might of the United 482 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: States government to bear on someone exclusively because of their politics. 483 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: Because Buck Sexton, if Donald Trump never comes down that elevator, 484 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: and if he never runs for president of the United States, 485 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and probably if he doesn't win, if he loses in 486 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, this investigation just disappears if he's no longer 487 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: a political figure. Certainly, if he never enters into politics, 488 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: this man never gets charged with fifteen felonies, this investigation 489 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: never happens. It's all politics. Since it is Independence Day 490 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: weekend right now, we're heading into it. I do think 491 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: we could try to take the silver lining here, or 492 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: the upside of a two into the equation, which is 493 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: they're poking the bear. This gives Trump plenty of anyone 494 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: who was saying, oh, after the insurrection, he should just 495 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: go away and let's ignore him if these are leftists 496 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: and Democrats who hate him, But anyone who wants to 497 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: try to make that claim now has to Blaine. Oh, really, 498 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: you're going to continue to hound him in private life 499 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: and don't want him to fight back. You don't you 500 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: think that he's not going to come back at you? So, 501 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think that they would have been. They'll 502 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: end up finding out because as we all know Trump 503 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: as a fighter. I think they're going to find that 504 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: they should have just let him enjoy time with the 505 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: grandkids at Marlago, leave him alone, see if maybe he'll 506 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: take a step back from all this. You're going to 507 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: go after his organization I'm making the it's the it's 508 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: there on the front page of the New York Times. 509 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're acting like this is abu 510 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: grabe or something. You know, this is some oh my gosh, 511 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: a national a national disgrace. It's a huge issue really 512 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: over this. I mean they should be embarrassed. But remember 513 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: trumped arrangement syndrome didn't go away on November or in 514 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: November of twenty twenty. People still have this. They they've 515 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: been conditioned. The same folks who can't get used to 516 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: not wearing a mask because they got brainwashed in do 517 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: we need two masks or three masks? Think that Trump 518 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: is a threat to the republic. I am a reasonable 519 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: person in an unreasonable world. Also, a lot of lawyers 520 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: are too buck and a part of me wonders how 521 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: many lawyers are embarrassed and not willing to say it 522 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: when they see a coverage and a story like this, 523 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Because if you actually read this, and you have any 524 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: experience whatsoever in tax law or in corporate governance, which 525 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: most lawyers who are decent due, this is an embarrassment 526 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: to the legal profession that charges like these would be 527 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: brought in the manner that they are. 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Sign up today inspired my 566 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: rush on the EIB. That's word Welcome back to the 567 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Show. Lines are lit open 568 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: line Friday eight two two two eight eight two. We 569 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: are having fun in here. We are dropping truth bombs 570 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: in here we are discussing get ready for the fourth 571 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: the pyrotechnics of Independence Day, and our respective respective venues. Um, 572 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you. Also, make sure 573 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: you gotta Clay in buck dot com. It's where we 574 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: post news stories. We want to read about what we're 575 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: talking about. See some clips from the show, see some 576 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: of the best of and all that Clay and Buck 577 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Clay. The most essential Independence Day weekend barbecue 578 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: meat is? What? Oh man, that is a fantastic question. Well, 579 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be a wide variety of opinions on this. 580 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna say, and I know it's a little 581 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: bit not exciting because there's all different sorts of barbecue 582 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: guys out there, legit barbecue guys that are gonna be disappointed. 583 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: But I think a solid cheeseburger. I think burger is 584 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: the answer, even though it's kind of boring and it's 585 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: German Hamburger. Yes, you know we put the place sides 586 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: that its name was not a hambug. I think it's 587 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: the most essential. I would say hot dog clearly number two. Yeah, 588 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: And I actually think the brot you know, I know 589 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: there's a big argument out there among a hot dog 590 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: versus broad guy. You beat me to it. I was 591 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna say, the secret at every barbecue is the sausage 592 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: is always the sleeper hit. Yes, the sausage, you know, 593 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: the whether it's you know, spicy Italian or polar sausage, 594 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: or they do way better than the regular hot dogs. 595 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: They do better than the hot way better. And I 596 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: know that makes me sound like a commie over here 597 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: because hot dogs are more American. But if you line 598 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: them up, we all understand this is America. We way 599 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: better flavor in all the broad related sausage related hot 600 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: dog competitors, it's not even close. And then I think, 601 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: what's your side? See, I'm a big h you know, 602 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: regular playing beans. I like to dip my potato chips 603 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: in the beans. The combo there. And also I think 604 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: you need corn on the cob. Corn on the cob 605 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: is tough to beat. That's the classic. I think I would, 606 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: but I would put out there that that for me, 607 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: the one that the range is tremendous. You know, it 608 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: can be great, it can be really off. If potatoes salad, 609 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: that's a big risk well executed, because some potato salads 610 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: you're fantastic. You're like, what is this It's it's hard 611 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: to chew. Others you're saying, this is delicious, and I 612 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: love it and I can't eat enough of it. So 613 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: potato salad, I find there's a big range. Often too dry, 614 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: too chunky. That's my Also, heat can impact the potato 615 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: salad in a big way, very quick if you're outside. 616 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: That's a risky move. I think like it's hard to 617 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: go wrong with the Hamburger hot dog brought, you know, 618 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: potato chips, certainly with beans, but you go with the 619 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: potato salad when it's like ninety five degrees and that 620 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: stuff's been outside for a little while, that can get 621 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 1: to your stomach and anet and don't more than an hour, folks, 622 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to toss your potato. Important safety 623 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: tip from the Clay and Buck Show. Here. Let's see 624 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: if you have any tips for us right now. David 625 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: and Lexington, Kentucky. Welcome. Yes, Sarah, I've got a new 626 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: word for you to use, dem crapping. It's pretty everything 627 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: they do when they open their mouth. It is like 628 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: when I see these stories. Thanks for the call, Lexington. 629 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: By the way, fantastic town. You ever been to Lexington? 630 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: I have not. Oh it's such a good town. I 631 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: gotta tell you. When I see these charges come out, 632 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: I just want for reasonable people to look at them 633 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: and realize what absolute crap they are. And it makes 634 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: me wonder Buck and I. This is a question that 635 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: I've had a lot over the past several years. Do 636 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: you think most journalists are just not very smart or 637 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: or they making the calculated decision to be the liars? 638 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: There be minus students who are making the calculated decision 639 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: think it liars. I think it's a combination of not 640 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: as smart as they think they are and more dishonest 641 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: than they ever want the public to figure out they are. 642 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: It's those two things together, and that is I believe 643 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: across the board, that's the reality of ninety percent of 644 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: corporate media and journalism in America today. Because I like 645 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: to watch, I started for what I do in sports media. 646 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: Instead of reading what media figure said, coaches or players said, 647 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: I love to go read the transcripts. And this may 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: be the lawyer in me, where you just give me 649 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: what was actually said and I'll go through and see 650 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: everything in context. And I started doing the same for 651 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: White House press briefings, and I'm stunned by the lack 652 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: of intelligence from many of the questions that are asked. 653 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: And it makes me wonder is it stupidity or is 654 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: it willful just dishonesty. I think it's mostly dishonesty, although 655 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: on certain topics, I mean there's no there is no 656 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: basement to the level of stupidity, for example that your 657 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: run of the mill journal has when it comes to 658 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: firearms and the Second amendmented laws like that, there's no 659 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: there's also or basic business or basic business. Look, I've 660 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: always said this, if most journalists, if they could have, 661 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: would have gone to work in Wall Street or something. 662 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: But they probably weren't that good at math. And that's 663 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: coming from a guy who wasn't that good at math. 664 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: We should get speaking of math, sixteen cents, that's right, 665 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: the peasants sol across America. Speaking of barbecue, you had celebrations. 666 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: You have sixteen extra pennies now in your pocket America, 667 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: according to the Biden administration, because of how great things 668 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: are when it comes to the cost of your Independence 669 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: Day meal. That's right, sixteen pennies. Line them up. We 670 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: will get into the Biden economy, the spin around this, 671 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: and also a whole bunch of other big breaking stories 672 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: from today. The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show continues. 673 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Stay with us, we're having fun. You're listening to Clay 674 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network