WEBVTT - Best of Season 1 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.559 From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:18.800 podcast Unleashed, presented by that MGM. You're your host, Speedy 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:29.120 Mormon and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed from 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.640 the King of Sports Books, that MGM. I'm Olivia Harland Decker. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:34.960 You know, for the past ten weeks we have been 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.000 bringing you some of the biggest names in sports, and 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.200 we've had a lot of fun doing it. Not only 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.320 have we kept you up to date on what's happening 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.239 around the world of sports, but we've also covered a 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:50.239 wide variety of pop culture, from wine making, NBA players, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.880 war zone playing husbands, n f T, selling running backs 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.680 Yeah I still don't understand that one either, and so 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.480 much more. This week, we wanted to welcome all of 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.040 our new listeners and play some clips that you might 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.520 have missed. First up was our very first interview with 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:14.800 the one and only Jalen Rose. All right, Olivia, we 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.399 are in the presence of greatness right now for multiple reasons. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.679 We've got a collegiate basketball icon, NBA icon as well, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.479 but maybe the man with the best hairline in all 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.039 the sports on the corner off the court, Jalen Rose 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.680 is with us let me ask you this, Jalen, who 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.920 do you think Scott the best hair in sports? Who 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.039 comes to mind? Not just hairline, maybe just the best 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.680 hair in sports? So little known fact. If I could 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.679 wear my hair like all the way down and long, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.000 that's actually how I would wear it like, just like 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.120 I grew up in the seventies, right, and so people 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.320 like Ron O'Neill and you know those black exploitation movies 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.200 always wanted long hair or an afro. But my hair 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.240 just won't grow like that. Like it grows, but it 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.800 don't grow and grow and grow and grow like that. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.760 You might need some soul glow exactly. A couple of 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.040 people that got strong hairline. Aaron Donald I try to 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.720 figure when I watch him play, how you take his 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.680 helmet on and off and it don't affect his hairline. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.560 Jason Tatum strong, very strong, right, that's a good with 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.400 Boston Celtics. He was wearing a short cut kind of 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.520 like me and you last year and he grew it 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.200 out kind of to the R and B look. I'm 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.400 kind of rocking that look now. Devin Booker strong, Really 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.600 he has one for the Phoenix suns. I'm pretty sure. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:41.359 Kylie Jenner likes that about him. Ken Kendall Jenner. It's 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.720 five d Olivia and I'm old, So I'm glad I 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.960 got it wrong. Let me put you on the spot 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.920 least favorite hair in sports. Who's got the Who's got 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.760 the worst least favorite hair in sports? The Orlando head 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.160 coach I used to joke on his for a minute. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.919 I don't know where I'm drawing the blank, because he 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.600 got the uh the brains blown as we call him. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.359 You know, he got the drop top. I hope you 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.840 can't hear you in Orlando. You might want to make 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.959 sure this air is Thursday now exactly. I would say 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.919 probably his is one that stood out. But you know what, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.520 we were doing something, um and my MGM, shoot, and 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.800 they were showing me some old players and trying to 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.200 get me the guests there here, and I actually just 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:33.680 thought of the answer, Chris Caman the oh my goodness, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.040 google picture, Chris Camans here, my fellow Michi gander. He 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.440 didn't care at all. He didn't care at all. Answer 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:47.600 the question, Jillen, when you watch collegiate basketball today, are 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.240 you able to see your influence on the court? Are 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.800 you able to see the fab fives? Influence in today's game, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.520 whether it's on the collegiate level or the NBA level. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.720 And when I say influence, you know I'm talking the 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.680 black socks and just the overall swag on the court. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.920 Do you see it? Did you notice it? So I'm 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.560 about to make it personal because I am a part 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.839 of the MGM family. I don't want y'all to get 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.360 sad when I say this, But as you bring this up, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.040 I have to start from the route, like it's been 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.120 a tough year from my family, like the last maybe 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:27.800 thirteen months. I lost my eldest brother on February three 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.719 of twenty and then I lost my grandmother. She was 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.080 a hundred and three God bless her, so she's such 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:40.520 an angel. And then February second of I lost my 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.640 mother and so like just a couple of months removed 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.120 from that, and my and my family is still obviously 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.159 dealing with the pain from her loss. As you asked 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.760 me about the influence of college basketball, the number one 0:04:53.839 --> 0:05:00.400 thing is Genie Rose created the name Jalen m And 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.240 it ain't even just college basketball, it's everywhere in society. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.640 I'm in the Orlando right now, just at of seven 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.760 eleven and respectfully. There was an older woman trying to 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.000 do a deposit at an A T M at a 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.560 seven eleven, and I was helping her out. I was like, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:17.919 you know, you got to go to a bank to 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.800 do that whatever, whatever, and I kind of google the 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.360 closest bank and you know, try to help her out. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.160 But I didn't realize that she wasn't in the seven 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.040 eleven by herself. And then another guy came. It was 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.320 probably in his twenties, and he was like, what do 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.440 you want me to grab. She was like, well, I know, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.760 Jalen like to eat those chips, and you like, I 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.599 don't like even I was kind of in the rush, 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.040 so I didn't even have a time to really even 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.279 kind of get into it. Like I was wearing my mask. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.760 I was trying to go do the show. And so 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.520 a lot of people here may not know is that 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.600 my biological father. His name is Jimmy Walker. He was 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.720 the number one pick in the nineteen sixty seven NBA draft. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.440 He died in the mid two thousand's. He played in 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.479 the backcourt with Dave Being. I never met him, but 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.440 I didn't go to his funeral. My uncle Leonard took 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.520 my mother to the hospital to give birth. So initially 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.720 she was gonna call me James or Jason, and I'm 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.599 glad she didn't because those don't hit the same. Instead, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.200 she chose to combine the two names, James and Leonard. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.880 And that's actually where the name came from. And so 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.320 they're gonna be people like, oh, somebody biblical had the 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.840 name in nineteen eighteen, Andrea or whatever whatever. My mother 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.960 created the name. And I'm the oldest Jalen. And if 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.839 you notice, each Jalen that you now see is in 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:43.400 their twenties, and it started at Michigan. So imagine when 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.000 I'm working the NBA draft and Jalen Brown gets picked 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:52.159 by the Celtics, or I'm watching NFL and the Jaguars 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.279 take Jalen Ramsey or Jalen Hurt for the Philadelphia Eagles, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.400 or or Jalen Sucks about to get sucked a draft 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.839 coming up. Three of the next three of the top 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.320 five or six players in next year's draft or this 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:13.720 year's draft, their name Jalen and influence. That influence is 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.840 as much as we're gonna, of course, talk about the 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.440 iconic influence of the Five Five, but that right there 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.520 is the most influential thing that happened from that situation. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.160 The Jalen is now a common name and my mother 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.320 created it. Wow. The other thing that I see as 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:37.960 our influence, it's a personality thing. Like college basketball used 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.520 to be so stiff and it was all about the 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:45.360 coaches and they never allowed players to play with personality 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.600 or laugh. I remember we're playing at Northwestern. Valentine is 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.120 his last name, the referee, and we I just did 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.040 a nice player dropped it off the jimmy and he 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.440 wasn't dunked it and we were jumping up and we 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.040 was laughing. He came to our though, said, y'all need 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.440 to cut that out on. I'm gonna give you a 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.920 tech like. That's how different the game was. And then 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.920 the other thing, the influence of hip hop see the 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.320 marriage of the Five five and hip hop, happened at 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.480 the same time when sports actually start to embrace rap music, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.160 when they realized they can make money off of it. Initially, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.400 the true kickoff was when the Bad Boys went back 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.680 to back championships and you can't touch This was the 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.680 model and Hammer was the number one artists in the world. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:38.080 That's really when sports started to embrace rap music. The 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.400 only music we heard in the arena was like Whooped, 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.880 there it is or Jordan, this is how we do it, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.240 you know, Like that was the only Like we have 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.400 to bring CDs, we have to bring tapes to Christis 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.560 Arena for them to play. So the influence of hip hop, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.600 and then the personality hip hop, the name, and then 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.200 lastly the fashion, you know, being able to express yourself. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.640 And imagine if we could a trademark that. Imagine if 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.160 when we went to the mall they were not selling 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.760 black socks. It was like three pairs. When we played 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.640 at Rice, I had at dress socks on top of 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.600 my white sox. And so that's another thing that's changes. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.520 Young people now have a business acumen and an awareness 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.080 of how to market themselves and get paid off of it. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.040 When I was in college, I didn't know I had 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:36.679 a credit score. I don't know. I didn't know. So 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.640 those are a few of the things. Yeah, and I 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.920 gotta ask you something else. We have a mutual friend 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.320 in Reggie Miller. I've known Reggie since I was young. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.800 He does NBA games with my dad, Kevin Harland on 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.439 T n T. And I've known Reggie since I was 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.920 like in middle school, and he's one of my favorite people. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.000 And I texted him and I told him you were 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.760 coming on our show, and I said, is there something 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.240 about me to ask him about? Obviously, y'all our teammates 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.320 with Indiana, he said, asked him about the second round 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.600 playoff games versus AI in the seventies sixers. I think 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.040 you both went off for over forty in one game, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.880 you and Reggie, And he said, the ship talking in 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.320 that game was as good as there's ever been. You've 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.240 got to fill me at what happened. First off, I 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.520 love your dad. I've known him for a long time 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.720 and he's a goat and he's still killing it. Reggie's 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.000 my big brother, mentor leader. I learned so much from 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.319 him on and off the floor. But the number one 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.840 thing I learned from him on the floor is I 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.640 always had the ball. So in high school I was 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.920 like a forward or a point forward. In college, I 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.640 was a point guard. But when you get to the league, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.520 Mark Jessica had the ball. Jalen, I was gonna have 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.880 a ball. We know you can have You could be 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.240 the backup point guard, but we want to have you 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.640 and Reggie out there. And so Reggie helped me learn 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.120 how to come off screen. I wasn't necessarily a guy 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.960 that was able to like do come off single doubles 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.199 and do a lot of flares and do a lot 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.319 of stuff like that and so and moving without the ball. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.760 He in rip Hamilton's Ray Allen like, guys are just 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.360 constant motion out there. Steph Curry in today's game, the 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:19.079 game that he's talking about. That was personal because Larry 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:26.920 Brown was our coach. His final year was nineties seven seven, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:33.280 and he gave me fifteen DMPs that year dnps. I 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.040 had just came from Denver where I was starting in 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.199 the playoffs. I was starting in the playoffs against the 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.720 San Antonio Spurs. They had the best record in the league. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.959 I got traded to the Pacers. He didn't like me. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.640 I don't know why it happens in the league. It 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.040 happens in your profession. And his goal was to bring 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.000 He told me that, he told he will admitted to 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.640 this day. You know what I'm saying. And so after 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:03.680 that season Larry left. He coached nine teams. That was 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.400 his thing. Kind of next town Brown, that's what it's called. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.120 And so when he left Indiana, he was lining it 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.880 up so he could go coach. Hey, I like the 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.800 next thing in his mind, right, So that's kind of 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.720 how what he was on. Because Billy King, one of 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.360 our assistant coaches, ended up getting a GM job at Philly, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.240 and so that next season Larry Bird became our coach 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.120 and Larry berg Rick Carlisle they allowed me to hoop 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.160 and so of course we played Philly in the playoffs, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.760 and so you know that's personal and belief maybe four 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.160 or five times in the history of the league in 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.040 the playoffs that two teammates have four in the same game, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.960 and it was great to do that to Larry it 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.560 meant a lot to me. It meant a lot to 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.920 me because when your challenge, how are you going to respond? 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.520 You cry about it or you're gonna do something about it. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.480 And I was like, if I ever get a chance 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.360 to play against one of his teams, I'm gonna go off. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.040 And not only did we go off that game, I 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.520 think we swept him that year or of like four one, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.480 I believe, and so that was probably my favorite playoff 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.080 series of all time. Well, now that's a great story 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.720 and all, but I think you're skirting my question. What 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.320 was the ship talk. I need to know details. Okay, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.400 it was all screw you, Larry. It was all f 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.600 bombs to everybody in the gym. It was, you know, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:41.080 kicking in that delilas in Philly, big shot Philly. What up? No, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.839 But in all honesty, like I gotta, I got big 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.680 time respect for Ai Aaron McKee. I played against Blue 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.920 Aaron McKee in college. He went to Temple. I played 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.280 against Eric Snow he went to Michigan State. George Lynch 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.839 was on the Carolina team that beat us in the championship. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.479 So I love and respect for the players on the team. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.080 But I was yelling at Larry. They know I was 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.880 yelling at him. At him, yeah, I was, And I 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.160 stopped cursing two years after that. I need. I got 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.360 it all off my chest those couple of years, I 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:25.720 promise you I did. That's beautiful sight. Now, there are 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.280 a few people with as big a personality in professional 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.240 sports as Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson. I still haven't taken 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.280 him up on his health advice, considering he eats McDonald's 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.760 multiple times a day and swears by it. But we 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:48.400 got great insight on why he likes to play the villain. Well, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.920 there are three things certain in life, death taxes, and 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.840 number eighty five is open. Welcome to unleash oo sinko. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.640 How are you and where are you right now? I'm 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.680 in Jacksonville. Tended m M a fight last night, booting 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.960 for my guy or hate masses off. Obviously we didn't win, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.680 but it's okay, because it's it's okay in life. You 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.760 never get directed. So they're gonna be wins, they're gonna 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.080 be losses. And we we took that one. We took 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.080 that loss with grace, and he got He took it 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.840 with grace, with grace, took it with grace. I I 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.120 don't know if you took it with grace. We've seen 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.720 you upset. I know you put some money on it too. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.440 You slammed the table, you lost fifty bands? Is everything alrighty? Listen, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.760 If people know me and they follow me and followed 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.920 my my structure, in my way of living throughout the years, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.120 and how cheap I am, you would know that would 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.440 just basically content purposes. And I would really never bet 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.880 fifty grand on anything, let alone spend it and put 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.280 it on someone else whereas not where the end result 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.320 is not in my control. Absolutely not. I wear a target. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 I get my jury from Claire's. Come on, that's some 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.480 good insight. I like that and listen content purposes. It's 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.400 like watching rastling. Is it really really? Did you actually 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.120 make a bit? Or did you just bet nothing? But 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.680 it's it's great content. No, I don't. I don't. I 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.000 don't gamble. Don't gamble, I mean people that know me. No, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.680 I don't gamble. People that know me know I don't 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.720 spend any money. Well, hang on, now, you're saying you're frugal, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.080 but I saw you tweet recently that you would pay 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.520 someone to pick you up at your hotel and paying 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.160 five hundred bucks to take you to Starbucks. That's different. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:24.120 That is giving. That is giving. Well, why not Uber? No? 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.680 Because Uber baby, what happened? Ub? If they weren't what happened? 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.880 I want to Starbuck yes day. They weren't delivering at 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.320 the hotel I was staying at. And I need my 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.760 fix every morning for the past thirty forty I'm fifty now, yeah, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.760 forty years. I need my coffee every morning. And I 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.040 was I was going, you can Uber to Starbucks. No, 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.200 I didn't want to do that. I think I think 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.720 it would have been nice engaging with the fans on Twitter, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.800 having someone picked me up and rewarding them for coming 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.400 going out their way on a Saturday morning to pick 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.800 me up to get my coffee. You know, you wouldn't 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.600 have to pay someone to do that. There's so many 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.400 people who would do that for free to meet you. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.720 More so I like, I like the giving part better 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.560 then pan out that way and someone actually come get 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.840 your Yeah, yeah, yeah, I post it. Three story it's 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.800 there on Twitter, still there. I love it. You're all 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.080 about the content. You're a social media savant. But really 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.080 with with the diet stuff i've it blows my mind 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.040 seeing what you're eating. I know it's a lot of 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.480 yellow cake, chocolate icing McDonald's. Wait a minute, I see, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.920 Oh my god, listen, so good, so good? Are you 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:36.919 health health nut or are you like yeah, I am god, No, 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.120 you need just you need to stick to my meal 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:45.600 plan six months, six months, okay, eating in moderation, junk food, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:54.879 cosmic brownies, honey bunsods, cigars, to day workouts I do 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.200 two days, Yes, yes, I do, I do. I saw 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.280 you speaking of Cam Newton about this and he was 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.320 not having it. He's all plant based. I got him. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.199 I got him the plan based ain't working. Ain't working. No, 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.800 it's not it's not working. So he's on my plan. Now. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.240 I have a few other NFL athletes under my ultial 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.639 versus science dietary plan, and they're going to be successful 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.240 because of it. Chad, I haven't had a cosmic Brownie 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.359 since maybe two thousand and five. Are they still as good? 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.800 Do they still hit the same? They still hit the same? 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.600 Why haven't you? Why haven't you? I just feel like 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.960 I graduated out of it. My tastality evolved. And listen, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.560 you know, you know what. You're alive, but you're not living. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.000 That's what you're doing. You're alive, but you're really not living. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:44.040 You know, it's graduate. Graduating is awesome, but never never 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.199 ever lead the foundation that built you. And that's what 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:52.439 Brownies did. That's a fact. That's true. Same with McDonald's breakfast. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.640 But you're a big fan of Yes, you don't eat. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.879 You don't even go on breakfast either. It's been a 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:01.920 long time. I gotta be my No, dude, you guys 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.560 are torturing your bodies. You're torturing your bodies on the 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.080 proper nutrients that it needs, and it's not the stuff 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:13.280 that scientists are told you to eat. I'm telling you you. Yes, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.000 the body on the inside, it's screaming right now, both 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.480 of you. It's screaming. You don't even know it. You know. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.120 I recently watched your Larry King interview from years ago, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.440 and I think every athlete should watch it. The way 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.600 that you talk about the mentality of the game. And 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.000 I've heard your favorite Bill Belichick story a couple of 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.920 times of him ripping Tom Brady and what's your favorite Tom? Oh? 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.680 What did I have that wrong? No? That was right? 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.840 Like it was crazy great. That talk about setting the 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.359 tone and understanding, getting a better understanding what the Patriot 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.439 way is and how everybody is held accountable. How you 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:52.119 ripping Tom Brady of all people the first day about 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.040 a game where he messed up last year previously when 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.760 they lost to the Jets of the playoffs, and he 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.240 puts up the film with the mistakes he made and 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.480 he rips them heading into the previous season. Wow, it's like, yo. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.760 That that to me, that that was that just set 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.960 the standard and it gave me a better understanding on 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.240 why they went consistently year and a year out because 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.480 it starts at the top. If you can chast Eyes 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.800 your star player, you're a goal player in front of 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.720 the entire team. It set the tone for everybody else. Well, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.280 that's such a good Belichick story. But what's your best 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.840 Tom Brady story that explains who he is a little bit? 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.000 You know what, I don't really have any great Time 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.399 Brady stories except just being with him that year and 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.959 watching him work and prepare, you know, in meetings and 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.760 go over game plans and go over situations down in 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:47.440 distance with at the time Bill O'Brien was alvious a coordinator, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.760 and just sitting in those meetings with them and watching 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.919 how they go over the same thing over and over 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.080 and over and over and being very meticulous on down 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.320 and distance and what we would do, what would happen 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.040 if the defense did this. There was always an answer 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.000 for everything. It was always answer for everything. So no 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.879 matter what defense is through it, Tom he was always ready. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.040 And I think that's what made not just Tom special, 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.040 but also Peyton Manning. I'm just throwing him out there 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.800 because those are two of you know, the two that 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.879 have just done great things in this NFL. It was 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.840 time about the fight. I thought I saw you guys 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.320 embraced one another. I was there, Yeah, I was talking 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:23.800 with Tom for a while. He was there with Mike 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.920 Evans and the backup quarterback. I'm not sure what the 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.360 backup quarterback is, but he was sitting right next to him. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.960 What you guys catch up about? You know, just just 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.280 catching up? Tell him hello, we changed are my my famous? 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.320 I love you as as I do with everyone I see. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.080 That was it. That's how I was doing. He's doing good. 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.800 Talked about the season a little bit coming up, and yeah, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.560 that was pretty much it. I saw a B maybe 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.800 was there sitting on the opposite side. Maybe he was 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.840 there with that. Maybe he was there with Jake Paul, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.040 which was a little funny combination. That's what I was 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.080 about to ask you about. So I saw you. I 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.720 saw you also embrace a B who was there with 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.680 Jake Paul. Jake Paul just what and knocked out Ben 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.399 asking yeah to a lot of people's dismay into some 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.359 other joy. I guess I'm curious as to what you 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.880 feel about Jake Paul. He's a polarizing figure, to say 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.119 the least. I like it. I like it. He's a 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.159 polarizing figure and he he has it figured out. He 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:18.879 has to figure out you have a small window of 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:24.080 opportunity to maximize the potential and a social media area, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.159 social media era. And he's got it down to a t. 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.000 He got it down to a science. You know when 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.119 people are buying into it. And this is one of 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.200 the things I always see on on the podcast I'm 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.040 on with Brandon Marshall and I am athletes. It's okay 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.120 to be the villain. It's okay to be the villain 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.040 because the villain is going to pay off, and it's 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.800 paying off dividends. For like last night, they're channing the 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:49.800