Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by that MGM. You're your host, Speedy
Speaker 1: Mormon and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed from
Speaker 1: the King of Sports Books, that MGM. I'm Olivia Harland Decker.
Speaker 1: You know, for the past ten weeks we have been
Speaker 1: bringing you some of the biggest names in sports, and
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of fun doing it. Not only
Speaker 1: have we kept you up to date on what's happening
Speaker 1: around the world of sports, but we've also covered a
Speaker 1: wide variety of pop culture, from wine making, NBA players,
Speaker 1: war zone playing husbands, n f T, selling running backs
Speaker 1: Yeah I still don't understand that one either, and so
Speaker 1: much more. This week, we wanted to welcome all of
Speaker 1: our new listeners and play some clips that you might
Speaker 1: have missed. First up was our very first interview with
Speaker 1: the one and only Jalen Rose. All right, Olivia, we
Speaker 1: are in the presence of greatness right now for multiple reasons.
Speaker 1: We've got a collegiate basketball icon, NBA icon as well,
Speaker 1: but maybe the man with the best hairline in all
Speaker 1: the sports on the corner off the court, Jalen Rose
Speaker 1: is with us let me ask you this, Jalen, who
Speaker 1: do you think Scott the best hair in sports? Who
Speaker 1: comes to mind? Not just hairline, maybe just the best
Speaker 1: hair in sports? So little known fact. If I could
Speaker 1: wear my hair like all the way down and long,
Speaker 1: that's actually how I would wear it like, just like
Speaker 1: I grew up in the seventies, right, and so people
Speaker 1: like Ron O'Neill and you know those black exploitation movies
Speaker 1: always wanted long hair or an afro. But my hair
Speaker 1: just won't grow like that. Like it grows, but it
Speaker 1: don't grow and grow and grow and grow like that.
Speaker 1: You might need some soul glow exactly. A couple of
Speaker 1: people that got strong hairline. Aaron Donald I try to
Speaker 1: figure when I watch him play, how you take his
Speaker 1: helmet on and off and it don't affect his hairline.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum strong, very strong, right, that's a good with
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. He was wearing a short cut kind of
Speaker 1: like me and you last year and he grew it
Speaker 1: out kind of to the R and B look. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of rocking that look now. Devin Booker strong, Really
Speaker 1: he has one for the Phoenix suns. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner likes that about him. Ken Kendall Jenner. It's
Speaker 1: five d Olivia and I'm old, So I'm glad I
Speaker 1: got it wrong. Let me put you on the spot
Speaker 1: least favorite hair in sports. Who's got the Who's got
Speaker 1: the worst least favorite hair in sports? The Orlando head
Speaker 1: coach I used to joke on his for a minute.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm drawing the blank, because he
Speaker 1: got the uh the brains blown as we call him.
Speaker 1: You know, he got the drop top. I hope you
Speaker 1: can't hear you in Orlando. You might want to make
Speaker 1: sure this air is Thursday now exactly. I would say
Speaker 1: probably his is one that stood out. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we were doing something, um and my MGM, shoot, and
Speaker 1: they were showing me some old players and trying to
Speaker 1: get me the guests there here, and I actually just
Speaker 1: thought of the answer, Chris Caman the oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: google picture, Chris Camans here, my fellow Michi gander. He
Speaker 1: didn't care at all. He didn't care at all. Answer
Speaker 1: the question, Jillen, when you watch collegiate basketball today, are
Speaker 1: you able to see your influence on the court? Are
Speaker 1: you able to see the fab fives? Influence in today's game,
Speaker 1: whether it's on the collegiate level or the NBA level.
Speaker 1: And when I say influence, you know I'm talking the
Speaker 1: black socks and just the overall swag on the court.
Speaker 1: Do you see it? Did you notice it? So I'm
Speaker 1: about to make it personal because I am a part
Speaker 1: of the MGM family. I don't want y'all to get
Speaker 1: sad when I say this, But as you bring this up,
Speaker 1: I have to start from the route, like it's been
Speaker 1: a tough year from my family, like the last maybe
Speaker 1: thirteen months. I lost my eldest brother on February three
Speaker 1: of twenty and then I lost my grandmother. She was
Speaker 1: a hundred and three God bless her, so she's such
Speaker 1: an angel. And then February second of I lost my
Speaker 1: mother and so like just a couple of months removed
Speaker 1: from that, and my and my family is still obviously
Speaker 1: dealing with the pain from her loss. As you asked
Speaker 1: me about the influence of college basketball, the number one
Speaker 1: thing is Genie Rose created the name Jalen m And
Speaker 1: it ain't even just college basketball, it's everywhere in society.
Speaker 1: I'm in the Orlando right now, just at of seven
Speaker 1: eleven and respectfully. There was an older woman trying to
Speaker 1: do a deposit at an A T M at a
Speaker 1: seven eleven, and I was helping her out. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to go to a bank to
Speaker 1: do that whatever, whatever, and I kind of google the
Speaker 1: closest bank and you know, try to help her out.
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that she wasn't in the seven
Speaker 1: eleven by herself. And then another guy came. It was
Speaker 1: probably in his twenties, and he was like, what do
Speaker 1: you want me to grab. She was like, well, I know,
Speaker 1: Jalen like to eat those chips, and you like, I
Speaker 1: don't like even I was kind of in the rush,
Speaker 1: so I didn't even have a time to really even
Speaker 1: kind of get into it. Like I was wearing my mask.
Speaker 1: I was trying to go do the show. And so
Speaker 1: a lot of people here may not know is that
Speaker 1: my biological father. His name is Jimmy Walker. He was
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the nineteen sixty seven NBA draft.
Speaker 1: He died in the mid two thousand's. He played in
Speaker 1: the backcourt with Dave Being. I never met him, but
Speaker 1: I didn't go to his funeral. My uncle Leonard took
Speaker 1: my mother to the hospital to give birth. So initially
Speaker 1: she was gonna call me James or Jason, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad she didn't because those don't hit the same. Instead,
Speaker 1: she chose to combine the two names, James and Leonard.
Speaker 1: And that's actually where the name came from. And so
Speaker 1: they're gonna be people like, oh, somebody biblical had the
Speaker 1: name in nineteen eighteen, Andrea or whatever whatever. My mother
Speaker 1: created the name. And I'm the oldest Jalen. And if
Speaker 1: you notice, each Jalen that you now see is in
Speaker 1: their twenties, and it started at Michigan. So imagine when
Speaker 1: I'm working the NBA draft and Jalen Brown gets picked
Speaker 1: by the Celtics, or I'm watching NFL and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: take Jalen Ramsey or Jalen Hurt for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: or or Jalen Sucks about to get sucked a draft
Speaker 1: coming up. Three of the next three of the top
Speaker 1: five or six players in next year's draft or this
Speaker 1: year's draft, their name Jalen and influence. That influence is
Speaker 1: as much as we're gonna, of course, talk about the
Speaker 1: iconic influence of the Five Five, but that right there
Speaker 1: is the most influential thing that happened from that situation.
Speaker 1: The Jalen is now a common name and my mother
Speaker 1: created it. Wow. The other thing that I see as
Speaker 1: our influence, it's a personality thing. Like college basketball used
Speaker 1: to be so stiff and it was all about the
Speaker 1: coaches and they never allowed players to play with personality
Speaker 1: or laugh. I remember we're playing at Northwestern. Valentine is
Speaker 1: his last name, the referee, and we I just did
Speaker 1: a nice player dropped it off the jimmy and he
Speaker 1: wasn't dunked it and we were jumping up and we
Speaker 1: was laughing. He came to our though, said, y'all need
Speaker 1: to cut that out on. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 1: tech like. That's how different the game was. And then
Speaker 1: the other thing, the influence of hip hop see the
Speaker 1: marriage of the Five five and hip hop, happened at
Speaker 1: the same time when sports actually start to embrace rap music,
Speaker 1: when they realized they can make money off of it. Initially,
Speaker 1: the true kickoff was when the Bad Boys went back
Speaker 1: to back championships and you can't touch This was the
Speaker 1: model and Hammer was the number one artists in the world.
Speaker 1: That's really when sports started to embrace rap music. The
Speaker 1: only music we heard in the arena was like Whooped,
Speaker 1: there it is or Jordan, this is how we do it,
Speaker 1: you know, Like that was the only Like we have
Speaker 1: to bring CDs, we have to bring tapes to Christis
Speaker 1: Arena for them to play. So the influence of hip hop,
Speaker 1: and then the personality hip hop, the name, and then
Speaker 1: lastly the fashion, you know, being able to express yourself.
Speaker 1: And imagine if we could a trademark that. Imagine if
Speaker 1: when we went to the mall they were not selling
Speaker 1: black socks. It was like three pairs. When we played
Speaker 1: at Rice, I had at dress socks on top of
Speaker 1: my white sox. And so that's another thing that's changes.
Speaker 1: Young people now have a business acumen and an awareness
Speaker 1: of how to market themselves and get paid off of it.
Speaker 1: When I was in college, I didn't know I had
Speaker 1: a credit score. I don't know. I didn't know. So
Speaker 1: those are a few of the things. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you something else. We have a mutual friend
Speaker 1: in Reggie Miller. I've known Reggie since I was young.
Speaker 1: He does NBA games with my dad, Kevin Harland on
Speaker 1: T n T. And I've known Reggie since I was
Speaker 1: like in middle school, and he's one of my favorite people.
Speaker 1: And I texted him and I told him you were
Speaker 1: coming on our show, and I said, is there something
Speaker 1: about me to ask him about? Obviously, y'all our teammates
Speaker 1: with Indiana, he said, asked him about the second round
Speaker 1: playoff games versus AI in the seventies sixers. I think
Speaker 1: you both went off for over forty in one game,
Speaker 1: you and Reggie, And he said, the ship talking in
Speaker 1: that game was as good as there's ever been. You've
Speaker 1: got to fill me at what happened. First off, I
Speaker 1: love your dad. I've known him for a long time
Speaker 1: and he's a goat and he's still killing it. Reggie's
Speaker 1: my big brother, mentor leader. I learned so much from
Speaker 1: him on and off the floor. But the number one
Speaker 1: thing I learned from him on the floor is I
Speaker 1: always had the ball. So in high school I was
Speaker 1: like a forward or a point forward. In college, I
Speaker 1: was a point guard. But when you get to the league,
Speaker 1: Mark Jessica had the ball. Jalen, I was gonna have
Speaker 1: a ball. We know you can have You could be
Speaker 1: the backup point guard, but we want to have you
Speaker 1: and Reggie out there. And so Reggie helped me learn
Speaker 1: how to come off screen. I wasn't necessarily a guy
Speaker 1: that was able to like do come off single doubles
Speaker 1: and do a lot of flares and do a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff like that and so and moving without the ball.
Speaker 1: He in rip Hamilton's Ray Allen like, guys are just
Speaker 1: constant motion out there. Steph Curry in today's game, the
Speaker 1: game that he's talking about. That was personal because Larry
Speaker 1: Brown was our coach. His final year was nineties seven seven,
Speaker 1: and he gave me fifteen DMPs that year dnps. I
Speaker 1: had just came from Denver where I was starting in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I was starting in the playoffs against the
Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs. They had the best record in the league.
Speaker 1: I got traded to the Pacers. He didn't like me.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it happens in the league. It
Speaker 1: happens in your profession. And his goal was to bring
Speaker 1: He told me that, he told he will admitted to
Speaker 1: this day. You know what I'm saying. And so after
Speaker 1: that season Larry left. He coached nine teams. That was
Speaker 1: his thing. Kind of next town Brown, that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: And so when he left Indiana, he was lining it
Speaker 1: up so he could go coach. Hey, I like the
Speaker 1: next thing in his mind, right, So that's kind of
Speaker 1: how what he was on. Because Billy King, one of
Speaker 1: our assistant coaches, ended up getting a GM job at Philly,
Speaker 1: and so that next season Larry Bird became our coach
Speaker 1: and Larry berg Rick Carlisle they allowed me to hoop
Speaker 1: and so of course we played Philly in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and so you know that's personal and belief maybe four
Speaker 1: or five times in the history of the league in
Speaker 1: the playoffs that two teammates have four in the same game,
Speaker 1: and it was great to do that to Larry it
Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. It meant a lot to
Speaker 1: me because when your challenge, how are you going to respond?
Speaker 1: You cry about it or you're gonna do something about it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, if I ever get a chance
Speaker 1: to play against one of his teams, I'm gonna go off.
Speaker 1: And not only did we go off that game, I
Speaker 1: think we swept him that year or of like four one,
Speaker 1: I believe, and so that was probably my favorite playoff
Speaker 1: series of all time. Well, now that's a great story
Speaker 1: and all, but I think you're skirting my question. What
Speaker 1: was the ship talk. I need to know details. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was all screw you, Larry. It was all f
Speaker 1: bombs to everybody in the gym. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: kicking in that delilas in Philly, big shot Philly. What up? No,
Speaker 1: But in all honesty, like I gotta, I got big
Speaker 1: time respect for Ai Aaron McKee. I played against Blue
Speaker 1: Aaron McKee in college. He went to Temple. I played
Speaker 1: against Eric Snow he went to Michigan State. George Lynch
Speaker 1: was on the Carolina team that beat us in the championship.
Speaker 1: So I love and respect for the players on the team.
Speaker 1: But I was yelling at Larry. They know I was
Speaker 1: yelling at him. At him, yeah, I was, And I
Speaker 1: stopped cursing two years after that. I need. I got
Speaker 1: it all off my chest those couple of years, I
Speaker 1: promise you I did. That's beautiful sight. Now, there are
Speaker 1: a few people with as big a personality in professional
Speaker 1: sports as Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson. I still haven't taken
Speaker 1: him up on his health advice, considering he eats McDonald's
Speaker 1: multiple times a day and swears by it. But we
Speaker 1: got great insight on why he likes to play the villain. Well,
Speaker 1: there are three things certain in life, death taxes, and
Speaker 1: number eighty five is open. Welcome to unleash oo sinko.
Speaker 1: How are you and where are you right now? I'm
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Tended m M a fight last night, booting
Speaker 1: for my guy or hate masses off. Obviously we didn't win,
Speaker 1: but it's okay, because it's it's okay in life. You
Speaker 1: never get directed. So they're gonna be wins, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be losses. And we we took that one. We took
Speaker 1: that loss with grace, and he got He took it
Speaker 1: with grace, with grace, took it with grace. I I
Speaker 1: don't know if you took it with grace. We've seen
Speaker 1: you upset. I know you put some money on it too.
Speaker 1: You slammed the table, you lost fifty bands? Is everything alrighty? Listen,
Speaker 1: If people know me and they follow me and followed
Speaker 1: my my structure, in my way of living throughout the years,
Speaker 1: and how cheap I am, you would know that would
Speaker 1: just basically content purposes. And I would really never bet
Speaker 1: fifty grand on anything, let alone spend it and put
Speaker 1: it on someone else whereas not where the end result
Speaker 1: is not in my control. Absolutely not. I wear a target.
Speaker 1: I get my jury from Claire's. Come on, that's some
Speaker 1: good insight. I like that and listen content purposes. It's
Speaker 1: like watching rastling. Is it really really? Did you actually
Speaker 1: make a bit? Or did you just bet nothing? But
Speaker 1: it's it's great content. No, I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't gamble. Don't gamble, I mean people that know me. No,
Speaker 1: I don't gamble. People that know me know I don't
Speaker 1: spend any money. Well, hang on, now, you're saying you're frugal,
Speaker 1: but I saw you tweet recently that you would pay
Speaker 1: someone to pick you up at your hotel and paying
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks to take you to Starbucks. That's different.
Speaker 1: That is giving. That is giving. Well, why not Uber? No?
Speaker 1: Because Uber baby, what happened? Ub? If they weren't what happened?
Speaker 1: I want to Starbuck yes day. They weren't delivering at
Speaker 1: the hotel I was staying at. And I need my
Speaker 1: fix every morning for the past thirty forty I'm fifty now, yeah,
Speaker 1: forty years. I need my coffee every morning. And I
Speaker 1: was I was going, you can Uber to Starbucks. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I think I think
Speaker 1: it would have been nice engaging with the fans on Twitter,
Speaker 1: having someone picked me up and rewarding them for coming
Speaker 1: going out their way on a Saturday morning to pick
Speaker 1: me up to get my coffee. You know, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to pay someone to do that. There's so many
Speaker 1: people who would do that for free to meet you.
Speaker 1: More so I like, I like the giving part better
Speaker 1: then pan out that way and someone actually come get
Speaker 1: your Yeah, yeah, yeah, I post it. Three story it's
Speaker 1: there on Twitter, still there. I love it. You're all
Speaker 1: about the content. You're a social media savant. But really
Speaker 1: with with the diet stuff i've it blows my mind
Speaker 1: seeing what you're eating. I know it's a lot of
Speaker 1: yellow cake, chocolate icing McDonald's. Wait a minute, I see,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, listen, so good, so good? Are you
Speaker 1: health health nut or are you like yeah, I am god, No,
Speaker 1: you need just you need to stick to my meal
Speaker 1: plan six months, six months, okay, eating in moderation, junk food,
Speaker 1: cosmic brownies, honey bunsods, cigars, to day workouts I do
Speaker 1: two days, Yes, yes, I do, I do. I saw
Speaker 1: you speaking of Cam Newton about this and he was
Speaker 1: not having it. He's all plant based. I got him.
Speaker 1: I got him the plan based ain't working. Ain't working. No,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not working. So he's on my plan. Now.
Speaker 1: I have a few other NFL athletes under my ultial
Speaker 1: versus science dietary plan, and they're going to be successful
Speaker 1: because of it. Chad, I haven't had a cosmic Brownie
Speaker 1: since maybe two thousand and five. Are they still as good?
Speaker 1: Do they still hit the same? They still hit the same?
Speaker 1: Why haven't you? Why haven't you? I just feel like
Speaker 1: I graduated out of it. My tastality evolved. And listen,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what. You're alive, but you're not living.
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing. You're alive, but you're really not living.
Speaker 1: You know, it's graduate. Graduating is awesome, but never never
Speaker 1: ever lead the foundation that built you. And that's what
Speaker 1: Brownies did. That's a fact. That's true. Same with McDonald's breakfast.
Speaker 1: But you're a big fan of Yes, you don't eat.
Speaker 1: You don't even go on breakfast either. It's been a
Speaker 1: long time. I gotta be my No, dude, you guys
Speaker 1: are torturing your bodies. You're torturing your bodies on the
Speaker 1: proper nutrients that it needs, and it's not the stuff
Speaker 1: that scientists are told you to eat. I'm telling you you. Yes,
Speaker 1: the body on the inside, it's screaming right now, both
Speaker 1: of you. It's screaming. You don't even know it. You know.
Speaker 1: I recently watched your Larry King interview from years ago,
Speaker 1: and I think every athlete should watch it. The way
Speaker 1: that you talk about the mentality of the game. And
Speaker 1: I've heard your favorite Bill Belichick story a couple of
Speaker 1: times of him ripping Tom Brady and what's your favorite Tom? Oh?
Speaker 1: What did I have that wrong? No? That was right?
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy great. That talk about setting the
Speaker 1: tone and understanding, getting a better understanding what the Patriot
Speaker 1: way is and how everybody is held accountable. How you
Speaker 1: ripping Tom Brady of all people the first day about
Speaker 1: a game where he messed up last year previously when
Speaker 1: they lost to the Jets of the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: puts up the film with the mistakes he made and
Speaker 1: he rips them heading into the previous season. Wow, it's like, yo.
Speaker 1: That that to me, that that was that just set
Speaker 1: the standard and it gave me a better understanding on
Speaker 1: why they went consistently year and a year out because
Speaker 1: it starts at the top. If you can chast Eyes
Speaker 1: your star player, you're a goal player in front of
Speaker 1: the entire team. It set the tone for everybody else. Well,
Speaker 1: that's such a good Belichick story. But what's your best
Speaker 1: Tom Brady story that explains who he is a little bit?
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't really have any great Time
Speaker 1: Brady stories except just being with him that year and
Speaker 1: watching him work and prepare, you know, in meetings and
Speaker 1: go over game plans and go over situations down in
Speaker 1: distance with at the time Bill O'Brien was alvious a coordinator,
Speaker 1: and just sitting in those meetings with them and watching
Speaker 1: how they go over the same thing over and over
Speaker 1: and over and over and being very meticulous on down
Speaker 1: and distance and what we would do, what would happen
Speaker 1: if the defense did this. There was always an answer
Speaker 1: for everything. It was always answer for everything. So no
Speaker 1: matter what defense is through it, Tom he was always ready.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what made not just Tom special,
Speaker 1: but also Peyton Manning. I'm just throwing him out there
Speaker 1: because those are two of you know, the two that
Speaker 1: have just done great things in this NFL. It was
Speaker 1: time about the fight. I thought I saw you guys
Speaker 1: embraced one another. I was there, Yeah, I was talking
Speaker 1: with Tom for a while. He was there with Mike
Speaker 1: Evans and the backup quarterback. I'm not sure what the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback is, but he was sitting right next to him.
Speaker 1: What you guys catch up about? You know, just just
Speaker 1: catching up? Tell him hello, we changed are my my famous?
Speaker 1: I love you as as I do with everyone I see.
Speaker 1: That was it. That's how I was doing. He's doing good.
Speaker 1: Talked about the season a little bit coming up, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty much it. I saw a B maybe
Speaker 1: was there sitting on the opposite side. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: there with that. Maybe he was there with Jake Paul,
Speaker 1: which was a little funny combination. That's what I was
Speaker 1: about to ask you about. So I saw you. I
Speaker 1: saw you also embrace a B who was there with
Speaker 1: Jake Paul. Jake Paul just what and knocked out Ben
Speaker 1: asking yeah to a lot of people's dismay into some
Speaker 1: other joy. I guess I'm curious as to what you
Speaker 1: feel about Jake Paul. He's a polarizing figure, to say
Speaker 1: the least. I like it. I like it. He's a
Speaker 1: polarizing figure and he he has it figured out. He
Speaker 1: has to figure out you have a small window of
Speaker 1: opportunity to maximize the potential and a social media area,
Speaker 1: social media era. And he's got it down to a t.
Speaker 1: He got it down to a science. You know when
Speaker 1: people are buying into it. And this is one of
Speaker 1: the things I always see on on the podcast I'm
Speaker 1: on with Brandon Marshall and I am athletes. It's okay
Speaker 1: to be the villain. It's okay to be the villain
Speaker 1: because the villain is going to pay off, and it's
Speaker 1: paying off dividends. For like last night, they're channing the
Speaker 1: entire the entire crowd, if channing if Jake Paul, if
Speaker 1: the entire crowd. He stands up and puts up the
Speaker 1: middle finger to the whole crowd. Everybody starts booing like
Speaker 1: like he really got this thing down to a science,
Speaker 1: Like he gets it, he gets it, and I love
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. No, that's awesome. He
Speaker 1: knows how to work it. You know how to work
Speaker 1: it is being a villain. Was that kind of a
Speaker 1: part of your game? I mean, you were known to
Speaker 1: be an amazing smack talker. Yeah. Yeah, see it's kind
Speaker 1: of different for me, is my I never did anything malicious.
Speaker 1: My way of going at my opponents was more in
Speaker 1: a competitive way. It was trash talking, but more in
Speaker 1: of entertainment typestyle, like not in your face, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this, No, I'm gonna score, I'm gonna celebrate,
Speaker 1: and it's a challenge to you to be able to
Speaker 1: stop me, you know, and that that was pretty much it.
Speaker 1: So my way of doing it was more about entertaining
Speaker 1: and making sure you've got your money's worth when you
Speaker 1: came to watch me play. I love that. Who in
Speaker 1: the game right now do you feel like has that
Speaker 1: same sense about him? Who do you love watching play?
Speaker 1: Especially right receivers? I think no, there's nobody with that personality.
Speaker 1: But there are some inventials that had the game that
Speaker 1: you know, exact same game and style and and flair.
Speaker 1: They just don't let the mouth come along with it.
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, Justin Jefferson, amazing rookie year.
Speaker 1: You know, Stefan Diggs like it's it's it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of them. They have a certain flair about their game
Speaker 1: if they had the personality to go with it occurs.
Speaker 1: All the personality happens to be on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Now, it's funny. Jaylan Ramsey absolutely like
Speaker 1: he he got to Richard Sherman. You know, they have it.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like the personalities have flipped to the
Speaker 1: optic side of the ball. Are their players in other
Speaker 1: sports or other major professional leagues that you see this personality?
Speaker 1: And just to broaden it from football a bit, because
Speaker 1: someone who comes to mind for me is young Anthony
Speaker 1: Edwards from the Timberwoops. Yes, yes, and he's good and
Speaker 1: he has the mouth and he's he's very honest, especially
Speaker 1: when he's like, I don't know, Alex Roger, you guys,
Speaker 1: is you know, but he probably really doesn't know. He
Speaker 1: probably really doesn't know. But his game can back up
Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah, his game it backs it up. So
Speaker 1: I mean, just him being him is it's exciting. It's exciting.
Speaker 1: And NB, I can't think of any villains, any villains
Speaker 1: with a personality. Everybody's more just about their business. Kevin
Speaker 1: during his viewed as a villain too many Yeah, in
Speaker 1: a sense, in a sense that he doesn't play into
Speaker 1: it though, Yeah, he's done play into it now, even
Speaker 1: on the soccer field. I mean, you're you're a man
Speaker 1: of so many interests. In my hometail in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: you're involved a sporting casey for a little bit, walk
Speaker 1: me through those steps and and how you know NFL
Speaker 1: wide receiver was so different from making it in professional soccer. Well,
Speaker 1: obviously I didn't have the resources to play soccer growing up.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm from Liberty City, which is a an Okay area,
Speaker 1: but soccer really isn't one where you could you can
Speaker 1: play or even achieve at the highest level. So in
Speaker 1: order for me to get out thinking long term as
Speaker 1: far as a career is concerned, it was it was football,
Speaker 1: But soccer for some reason was always embedded in my
Speaker 1: heart and something that I wanted to play, didn't have
Speaker 1: the resources to do so, so as I climbed the ladder,
Speaker 1: I use soccer as a way to train in a sense,
Speaker 1: to prepare myself for football along with other things, and
Speaker 1: just that love for it is still there. We had
Speaker 1: a lockout. I don't remember what year that lockout was,
Speaker 1: and Peter Vermice, I think is the head coach at
Speaker 1: Sporting Gacy. He gave the opportunity to come out and
Speaker 1: have a trial run. Not that I was really going
Speaker 1: to make the team, because it takes years and years
Speaker 1: of of experience, you know, to be able to make
Speaker 1: a team. Even if that manitude, even though the MLS
Speaker 1: has seen is you know how people are. It's it's
Speaker 1: still it's good quality soccer and I just I just
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But the experience was fun. Experience was fun,
Speaker 1: and I was very thankful for that. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have a chance to salsa on a soccer field? No,
Speaker 1: because that would that would required me to score. That
Speaker 1: was and it's not as easy as people think. Oh
Speaker 1: of course, no, highest level of course. Child. I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you something that potentially could mean a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Is it true that you had a two point to
Speaker 1: g p A or is this all a joke? It
Speaker 1: was a joke, It wasn't a joke, okay, Because this
Speaker 1: is trending on Twitter, I'm like, what is happening yesterday?
Speaker 1: Like if you if you follow my tweets, well, I
Speaker 1: think for people that follow me, people that follow me
Speaker 1: with no my exchange with my kids, the messages are
Speaker 1: always funny. But when they asked for stuff. I always
Speaker 1: say something outlandish, like I had to walk eight mile
Speaker 1: school appeal both ways, freaking heels in Miami, heels in Miami,
Speaker 1: like just like such a dad. Like nobody caught on
Speaker 1: to the point of of anything. I didn't even work
Speaker 1: at McDonald's. Like it's it's all a joke, and I
Speaker 1: just fit into it and just kept going. And it's
Speaker 1: funny seeing all the I don't want to go to people,
Speaker 1: but of course I obviously gonna believe it because I'm
Speaker 1: tweeting it. They also believe that because you asked me
Speaker 1: people that told me, but no, well what was your nobody?
Speaker 1: Probably a three too, okay, so you just what it was.
Speaker 1: So you just took a point off of it and
Speaker 1: made it too too for the sake of the joke.
Speaker 1: I did it. I made it too too because it
Speaker 1: would be for the sake of the joke. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be funny. And everybody ran with that that she
Speaker 1: was hilarious. They're still going on, I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I like it. I
Speaker 1: am a master throw Oh, we're very aware. We're very aware.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to you said that you know,
Speaker 1: yesterday you tried to coordinate a Starbucks school where somebody
Speaker 1: could come for five hundred it wind up happening. But
Speaker 1: I want to talk quickly about a thousand dollars round trips.
Speaker 1: Thousand round trip. I don't even have a license. I
Speaker 1: probably would have risked it just for the for the thousand.
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the time to a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago where used to just pull up
Speaker 1: at people's cribs and play them in Fifa, Olivia. Did
Speaker 1: you know that Chad used to do this? He would
Speaker 1: just tweet you know something and then just pull up
Speaker 1: and chilling somebody's mom's living room or basement and play Chad.
Speaker 1: How would you summarize what that experience was like, just
Speaker 1: going to strangers homes and beating or losing to them
Speaker 1: in Fifa. It was fun. It's always happened during track season,
Speaker 1: around the summertime, when we when we would be traveling,
Speaker 1: so obviously I see at attract me to My daughter
Speaker 1: would run her race regardless of what state we're in.
Speaker 1: I would have to rent a car, and I sent
Speaker 1: out the tweet, and I just find those and look
Speaker 1: at their tweets and see if they play feefa look
Speaker 1: at previous tweets, they look at their profiles and see
Speaker 1: if it's anything Socker related. And I would I would
Speaker 1: just just drive up and just play. And did you
Speaker 1: win more or lose more? Would you say? One more?
Speaker 1: One more? I mean you gotta think the pandemic mess,
Speaker 1: all the traveling up last year, so I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: but I did it. I think the summer twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I believe I'm not mistaken, and and I I won
Speaker 1: way more. I love I rarely lost, rarely lost. That
Speaker 1: that is fun. Just that is fun. Just games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's fun. Well, last thing before we let you go, Chad.
Speaker 1: You know, if people follow you on social doest see
Speaker 1: all the time that you're an amazing giver. You will
Speaker 1: give incredible tip amounts. Even if the bill is a
Speaker 1: dollar two dollars, you might leave two hundred, three hundred,
Speaker 1: four hundred, five hundred dollars based off of how much
Speaker 1: you enjoyed your experience here on Unleashed. What proverbial tip
Speaker 1: would you leave us here? What would we be in
Speaker 1: the two hundred dollar range, maybe the four or five?
Speaker 1: What are you thinking? You know what the funny thing
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't tip based on service or based
Speaker 1: on how people treat me. I tipped based on how
Speaker 1: I am, regardless of interaction with an individually. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I mean if this was a service based on what
Speaker 1: you guys have done for me and this platform that
Speaker 1: we're on, I probably tipped my usual thousand. Thank you.
Speaker 1: The usual thousand is enough for us. Chat. I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: my dog, Yes, yes, yeah, thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 1: You are truly one of a kind, don't Josinco thank you? Pleasure, pleasure,
Speaker 1: be well, Chad, thank you? All right, guys, you guys
Speaker 1: be blessed it. And finally, we're all about family here
Speaker 1: and Speedy and I got to tell you funny stories
Speaker 1: about both of ours. But we find out what happens
Speaker 1: when someone from my family try to help the show out,
Speaker 1: you know, try to get us some clicks. I guess
Speaker 1: next time, I've got to be a bit more clear. Okay, Speedy.
Speaker 1: It was fun this week because my dad does NBA
Speaker 1: on TNT games. His name is Kevin Harlan, and he
Speaker 1: usually is on Thursdays, but this past week he was Tuesday,
Speaker 1: which means he was sending it back and forth to
Speaker 1: the Atlanta studios to our guy Adam Lefco, who was
Speaker 1: our guest last right. So the ironic part is that
Speaker 1: now everyone's calling these games from home. You know, my
Speaker 1: dad's got this crazy studio set up in his basement.
Speaker 1: So what my family kind of likes to do is
Speaker 1: we have dinner now at my parents house on the
Speaker 1: nights he has these games. Because it's so unique, we
Speaker 1: get to have dinner with them, and then we all
Speaker 1: watch the game and he goes in the basement calling it.
Speaker 1: So I gotta ask a question here, So you guys
Speaker 1: sit upstairs and watch the game live on TV while
Speaker 1: he's in the basement giving the color commentary of said game. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is technology is nuts. I'm sorry, that's just blowing
Speaker 1: my mom. But keep going. I'm sorry. Yeah, And we
Speaker 1: try to make sure we're we're a conducive work environment.
Speaker 1: But my sister's got two little kids who are running
Speaker 1: all around. We're all having cocktails, you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a good work environment. So I give
Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for staying focused. But I
Speaker 1: tell him, you know, Dad, Adam Leftco, you're sending it
Speaker 1: back and forth to the studio. He's our guest this week,
Speaker 1: and he was, Okay, go ahead and write down the name,
Speaker 1: the name of the show. I do not want to
Speaker 1: mess it up. And you know, you and Speedy and Adam,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I nail it because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little plug. I was like, boy,
Speaker 1: that is so nice. Yes, we know we're only this
Speaker 1: is just our third episode. We're getting off the ground.
Speaker 1: And I thought, boy, that's a big national audience. That's
Speaker 1: so nice. Well, all write down our show name, Unleashed
Speaker 1: bet mgm Adam Left, Go, Speedy Mormon and you know
Speaker 1: it just it didn't go quite according to plan. And
Speaker 1: this is just a very big Dad gaff Um and
Speaker 1: I believe right now we can play it in it's
Speaker 1: less studios. Adam Left Girls Being Unreached podcast by b
Speaker 1: g mgat guest m Oh my goodness, this is my
Speaker 1: freaking this is literally my first time hearing it. As
Speaker 1: I know, we've saved it for you. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: missed the game, I forget what I had going on,
Speaker 1: but wow, because I texted you and our producer Maddie,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, guys, you know, make sure you're
Speaker 1: tuned in. My dad's going to plug our show. This
Speaker 1: is so great, and that you would just missed it,
Speaker 1: like barely just missed it. And we said, well, it
Speaker 1: was really nice he did it, but I kind of
Speaker 1: butchered the name and we're just giving him a hard
Speaker 1: time to be fair. He was also doing March Madness
Speaker 1: games all week. That was like his twelfth game of
Speaker 1: the week. I mean his the fact that he still
Speaker 1: even thought of us and thought to do it, I was.
Speaker 1: I was so flattered, but I was like, that's dad thing.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. But the fact that he shout it
Speaker 1: up Black Entertainment Television GM is hilarious. Were painted picks
Speaker 1: for me quickly? Were you in the living room like
Speaker 1: upstairs and like, all right, here we go, guys, he's
Speaker 1: gonna announce it. And then and then and then how
Speaker 1: did you react? What what happened? So my mom and
Speaker 1: I just kind of look at each other like, oh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't that, but you could tell? And he comes
Speaker 1: up after the game he said, did you hear it?
Speaker 1: How was it? Did you hear it? And I go,
Speaker 1: uh huh, yeah, yeah I heard I heard it. So
Speaker 1: just one fool thing, And I thought by writing it out,
Speaker 1: I made it super easy. But I did write b
Speaker 1: et mgm in acronym. You wrote b dash dot T.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna have to look back at the
Speaker 1: post it. I just wrote it quickly, you know, bet MGM.
Speaker 1: So he came up. My mom and I were like,
Speaker 1: should we even tell him? He's gonna feel so bad? No,
Speaker 1: but that's so sweet. Does he let me ask you?
Speaker 1: Does he do things? Is he like a dad's dad
Speaker 1: that he you know, he kind of embarrasses you sometimes
Speaker 1: that thing that dad's do ors is Is this just
Speaker 1: like a good old fashioned dad slip up? I've got
Speaker 1: to say, neither one of my parents ever embarrassed me
Speaker 1: like my I think my parents. My parents are kind
Speaker 1: of cool parents every time they come around in a
Speaker 1: way that they're just such good people. And I remember
Speaker 1: at my college graduation, my parents surprised me and flew
Speaker 1: down because I graduated a semester early, so none of
Speaker 1: my friends were graduating like that weekend, but they all
Speaker 1: surprised me with this big surprise dinner at a sushi
Speaker 1: restaurant with karaoke and my dad, who again likes to
Speaker 1: kind of fade in the background. You know he's he's
Speaker 1: so well known in our circles, in like sports media circles.
Speaker 1: But you know, my college girlfriends didn't really know who
Speaker 1: he was and you know, didn't really follow sports. And
Speaker 1: my dad gets on the mic and start singing Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra and has a beautiful singing voice. Surprise you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that to me even that wasn't embarrassing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. He's just you know, put himself out there.
Speaker 1: And my friends were like, your dad is so cool,
Speaker 1: but that they don't know much about his career, but
Speaker 1: they know that killed it with Frank Sinatra. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Frank Sinata. They'd be if they were impressed on
Speaker 1: Frank Sinata, they'd be so much more impressed at watching
Speaker 1: him do what he does on the national television. So,
Speaker 1: you know, let me just say my parents never really
Speaker 1: embarrassed me either. But you know what my pops does
Speaker 1: that that is just funny to me. My dad is
Speaker 1: so proud of like everything that I do and that
Speaker 1: I have going on that when he's out and about,
Speaker 1: like meeting people, he loves to just tell people about
Speaker 1: his son and like what his son does. So periodically,
Speaker 1: like especially pre pandemic. Like maybe once a month I
Speaker 1: get a d M on Instagram from somebody I don't
Speaker 1: know that says, hey, I just met your dad and
Speaker 1: he told me about what you do and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah or wow, I didn't know that this was your dad,
Speaker 1: but I follow you are ready, like it's the funny
Speaker 1: this thing, but it's really like a dad thing. And
Speaker 1: then I gotta call him and Dad, let me get
Speaker 1: ask you met someone else in the Apple Store this time,
Speaker 1: or you met some best You know. My dad's a
Speaker 1: big tech guy. He likes to buy like gadgets and stuff.
Speaker 1: So he's at best Buy at this point. I'm sure
Speaker 1: every best By employee knows who his son is, just
Speaker 1: because he's told of probably one by one by one.
Speaker 1: Well speed. Think of it this way, maybe he's not
Speaker 1: embarrassing you as your dad. Think of it like he's
Speaker 1: your publicist. That's what I'm saying. It's like the street.
Speaker 1: He's like my street team. You know, he's just like
Speaker 1: spread the good bird. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: you if you want to listen to a cool podcast
Speaker 1: or something, he you know you got a new podcast
Speaker 1: now because you know who I am because of my pop.
Speaker 1: So he's doing an amazing job. Plus I don't even
Speaker 1: have to pay him, which actually he doesn't ask nothing.
Speaker 1: He doesn't ask me for another But you know what,
Speaker 1: I should start just kicking him ten percent from like
Speaker 1: here on out. Any any new things that come my way,
Speaker 1: I'll just assume are by way of his word of mouth.
Speaker 1: You know, ask him, Ask your dad if he's up
Speaker 1: for higher too. Maybe I'll ask for him to help me.
Speaker 1: You need you need him in your corner, in our corner. Well,
Speaker 1: aw about this will make him the official publicist of
Speaker 1: this podcast because it just gonna be my dad, which
Speaker 1: is called Unleashed on b et MGM or bet MGM,
Speaker 1: whichever way you want to be saying. Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for listening, and stay tuned for some updates on the
Speaker 1: show and maybe even an appearance by my dad in
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. We'll make sure he gets
Speaker 1: the name right. Make sure to check out all of
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