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Speaker 1: what exactly is going on. Because, as you know, Wolf,
Speaker 1: welcome to day one of the on field workouts. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Big Red Rage. Here comes Polly, the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage. Are you jacked out? Paul? I am actually
Speaker 1: for the Combine. If the Cardinals weren't picking number three overall,
Speaker 1: then okay, you know what, maybe I'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: but number three overall. Think of everything that could happen.
Speaker 1: Think of the picks the Cardinals might have at their disposal,
Speaker 1: Think of the trade offers that might be coming right
Speaker 1: up until they're on the clock. So much can happen
Speaker 1: between now and then. You know what, PAULI for me, though,
Speaker 1: I think when I think of the Combine right now,
Speaker 1: I think of Monti Austin fort I kid you not.
Speaker 1: The reason why I say that is because Paul has
Speaker 1: Manti Austin Fort been a general manager before, I asked rhetorically, No,
Speaker 1: of course not. He is not. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: He's joined a very exclusive club, a club of thirty
Speaker 1: two thirty two general managers basically that are walking around
Speaker 1: Indianapolis right now and pretty much can tell anybody to
Speaker 1: pick that up, you know what I mean, falling, You know,
Speaker 1: for me, I'm thinking of Monty. His first time at
Speaker 1: the Combine as a general manager must be a pretty
Speaker 1: cool feeling. In fact, speaking of the Combine, here is
Speaker 1: the Cardinal's new GM speaking to the media and talking
Speaker 1: about the benefits for a personnel man like himself. The
Speaker 1: most important thing that we get out of this week
Speaker 1: is the medical evaluations, is the players being here and
Speaker 1: having our doctors and having our trainers getting a chance
Speaker 1: to examine the players and just finding out where they
Speaker 1: are physically. And really the second most important thing that
Speaker 1: I get out of this is the face to face
Speaker 1: time when we interview with the players, both in the
Speaker 1: formal settings and the informal meetings that our coaches are doing.
Speaker 1: Those those have been great, and then we'll get into
Speaker 1: the workouts as well. Those are important, But i'd put
Speaker 1: the medical in the interviews up above the on field workouts.
Speaker 1: He's such a GM poll he's such a general manager.
Speaker 1: I listen um scouts and general managers. They think on
Speaker 1: the strategic level. Paul being the what we're going to do.
Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do, and because it's
Speaker 1: what we're going to do, he wants to know what
Speaker 1: those the medical evaluations say about those players. Where a coach, Paul,
Speaker 1: who actually works with the guy on a tactical level,
Speaker 1: which is how we're gonna do it, works with him
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, where a coach works with that player,
Speaker 1: he wants to know, Man, that interview, I want to
Speaker 1: find out if you're a jerk or not those are
Speaker 1: They value the interview more coaches and of course front
Speaker 1: office personnel, they value those medical evaluations a whole lot more.
Speaker 1: And I get it, I do from where he's sitting.
Speaker 1: But here's what I also enjoy. Because he went in
Speaker 1: a little more in depth with Darren Irman, and you
Speaker 1: can go at asy Cardinals dot com and read his
Speaker 1: preview of the combine. He said essentially the same thing
Speaker 1: we just heard, but then to Darren he added, and
Speaker 1: I quote the on field work, the testing. It's another
Speaker 1: piece of information, but I wouldn't say it's a driver
Speaker 1: of anything on how we make our decisions on a
Speaker 1: certain player. Absolutely, because how many times do you get
Speaker 1: the air based on the measurables, based on the forty,
Speaker 1: based on you know, the three cone, based on how
Speaker 1: he looks and moves? The only question ultimately can this
Speaker 1: guy play? And that's where you go to the film.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's music to my ears when I
Speaker 1: hear monti As and Ford say, Okay, it's another piece
Speaker 1: of information we put on the card, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to dictate who we're going to make a draft
Speaker 1: selection on all this information coming out of the combine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So much of the time, a coach will look at
Speaker 1: a player on the field, Polly, and watch him play,
Speaker 1: especially on tape, and say, man, I love this guy.
Speaker 1: You kidding me, this guy. Look at the way this
Speaker 1: guy is playing right now. I love what I see
Speaker 1: on tape. And that's why a coach, I just want
Speaker 1: to harp on this a little bit, Polly. That's why
Speaker 1: a coach will look at the tape and then want
Speaker 1: to have a face to face conversation with that guy.
Speaker 1: Just to see if he could work on him, just
Speaker 1: to see if he can coach this guy. Where Monnie's
Speaker 1: looking at the what once again he's looking at the
Speaker 1: is this guy healthy? Because I don't want to draft
Speaker 1: a guy that has an injury issue. I don't want
Speaker 1: to draft a guy that could be injury prone. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this. That to me, it just separates.
Speaker 1: It has been a battle between the front office and
Speaker 1: coaches for millennia, for time immemorial in the game of football,
Speaker 1: where it's been a battle between those that pick players
Speaker 1: and those that work with players, big difference. Monty has
Speaker 1: talked about how they need to come to an understanding
Speaker 1: between the front office and the coaching staff as to
Speaker 1: what exactly a cardinal looks like in terms of a
Speaker 1: draft pick, not only schematically how they fit, but in
Speaker 1: terms of what attributes they want, what they're gonna stress,
Speaker 1: and then that philosophy. Look, we heard Michael Bidwell earlier say,
Speaker 1: you know what, our former system a best player available.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be other elements of how they rate
Speaker 1: and draft players going forward, especially starting next year. What's
Speaker 1: interesting is mel Kiper's two point on mock draft came
Speaker 1: out and it's not a stretch to think that quarterbacks
Speaker 1: will go one two if it's Bryce Young CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: which would leave every other position player on the board.
Speaker 1: So then the question becomes, all right, would the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: for example, take a Will Anderson and we'll hear from
Speaker 1: him a little bit later here in this addition to
Speaker 1: the big red rage, or would there be another quarterback
Speaker 1: who makes a run up there? You know, whether it's
Speaker 1: an Anthony Richardson or Will Levis either away. Here's Amaniasa
Speaker 1: Fort told the media when he was asked about the
Speaker 1: possibility of the Cardinals trading out at number three. It's
Speaker 1: a position that I hope that we're not in too
Speaker 1: many more years. You know. It presents an opportunity that
Speaker 1: there's going to be a good player there for us
Speaker 1: to take at number three, and so we'll be prepared
Speaker 1: to picking the player at number three. Our phones will
Speaker 1: be open, and I'm open to hearing any conversation about
Speaker 1: anybody that's willing to willing to come up. I mean, wolf,
Speaker 1: if you know, Anthony Richardson just kills it on Saturday.
Speaker 1: He's just an absolute freak in all the quarterback drills.
Speaker 1: A team that's really in need of a quarterback, like
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. If they're still on the board and they're
Speaker 1: fearing they're not going to get a quarterback like a
Speaker 1: Will Levis, then boom. I could easily see the Cardinals
Speaker 1: trading down out of that spot. No, you're right about that,
Speaker 1: PAULI can I also say I see a scenario that,
Speaker 1: unfortunately for the Arizona Cardinals, is much more likely. And
Speaker 1: I think that scenario deals with the Chicago Bears saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, Will Anderson, We're not going to get
Speaker 1: much better coming off the edge than Will Anderson right now.
Speaker 1: What if the Chicago Bears were to draft Will Anderson
Speaker 1: number one, Well, that does put the Arizona Cardinals in
Speaker 1: the catbird seat for a quarterback, because you have to
Speaker 1: think CJ. Stroud and Bryce Young, those two guys, Paul,
Speaker 1: they're going to go probably one or two, or two
Speaker 1: or three somewhere in there. And then you don't have
Speaker 1: to have a guy like Will Lovis. You don't have
Speaker 1: to have a guy have a great combine and suddenly
Speaker 1: somebody falls in love with him and wants to move
Speaker 1: up to number three. I think if you're hoping the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals trade back and collect a bevy of draft picks.
Speaker 1: Hope that the Chicago Bears draft Will Anderson number one,
Speaker 1: and then there you sit in the cap Bert seat.
Speaker 1: The Texans will take a quarterback at number two, and
Speaker 1: then there's pick number three, and you can expect a
Speaker 1: boatload for that pick. Yeah. If Trayvon Walker can come
Speaker 1: up the board and go number one to Jacksonville last year, yes,
Speaker 1: then Will Anderson can certainly go number one to the Bears.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and to some degree I fear that.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand that if that is the case,
Speaker 1: You're right, the Cardinals might be able to cash you
Speaker 1: number three to a quarterback needy team. If if Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson can go number two, if the Niners can trade
Speaker 1: three first round picks to take Trey Lanson number three, yes,
Speaker 1: what could the Cardinals possibly get? Very good? Point? Hey,
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Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert. Everybody talks about Will Anderson, but it's
Speaker 1: about the effort that he gives turns into a supernoble Wow,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson do it? Damne Anderson got there. It was
Speaker 1: a simple full range and Will Anderson with the sack
Speaker 1: Brown abandon. You know we talked about to a double
Speaker 1: Indian ship in well, sure Zeck is one thing you
Speaker 1: can't do is just leave him one on one swarmed
Speaker 1: under Blackwell. Anderson the best pass rusher we've seen in
Speaker 1: college football in a long time. Quarterback we're keeping and
Speaker 1: gets taken down. Will Anderson Junior lying in wait. This
Speaker 1: is Will Anderson Junior. Touchdown. The two time SEC Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, the two time All American, the
Speaker 1: winner of the Nagurski Trophy, the Chuck bed Nerrick Award,
Speaker 1: the Lombardi Award, and the Lot Impact Trophy. A guy
Speaker 1: who might have been the number one pick a year
Speaker 1: ago when he led college football. Was seventeen and a
Speaker 1: half sacks and thirty four and a half tackles for loss,
Speaker 1: all wall starring four Alabama, playing in the nation's best
Speaker 1: college football conference, and along the way, Wolf his teammates
Speaker 1: nicknamed him the terminator. So there's a lot to like
Speaker 1: about Will Anderson. Here on the Big Red Rage presented
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Speaker 1: will hear from Will Anderson momentarily give us a few
Speaker 1: thoughts if he indeed is the guy at number three. Yeah, Pollie,
Speaker 1: I love this kid. I'm in the danger zone on
Speaker 1: Will Anderson right now because at six four, two hundred
Speaker 1: forty five pounds somewhere in there and a guy who's
Speaker 1: got a very very good burst and has an even
Speaker 1: better motor. The only thing that is greater than his
Speaker 1: talent is the person that Will Anderson is and the
Speaker 1: way that he loves the game of football. And you
Speaker 1: know what that does to me, because you have to
Speaker 1: love this game to be at it. Well, I know
Speaker 1: there's one aspect you like his mindset in addition to
Speaker 1: his film. In fact, we got a glimpse of that.
Speaker 1: A lot of us heard him for the first time
Speaker 1: this week at the Combine. Here's Will Anderson. I'm being
Speaker 1: self motivated. Nothing has to motivate me to get ready
Speaker 1: to go play football game. It's already in me. That's
Speaker 1: how much I love the game. You know, The biggest
Speaker 1: thing for me is jumping up and now with my brothers,
Speaker 1: celebrating making plays. That's what football is all about. It
Speaker 1: and that's why I love it because you get to
Speaker 1: make those memories those guys in the locker room and
Speaker 1: long lasting relationships with those guys. And that's why I
Speaker 1: love the game so much. I read all his accolades. Right,
Speaker 1: a guy like that, a young guy, Well, if you've
Speaker 1: seen it firsthand, guys can get a massive ego, maybe
Speaker 1: even you know, get a little lack of daisical, right,
Speaker 1: he told the media, you know keeps him grounded. His mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he has five older sisters who help out as well.
Speaker 1: And you heard him right there. Nothing has to motivate him.
Speaker 1: According to Will Anderson, Paul's that's a guy who loves
Speaker 1: the game. That is a guy who loves the game
Speaker 1: that when nothing else has to motivate you to go
Speaker 1: out and play the game of football, A ferocious game,
Speaker 1: a physical game when you never have to have another
Speaker 1: man scream in your face to get you ready to go,
Speaker 1: or to slap you in the face like they used
Speaker 1: to do in the old days. Right there, to get
Speaker 1: you all fired up. John John randall, get you ready
Speaker 1: to play? Right there? Guess what he doesn't need that.
Speaker 1: Will Anderson loves the game of football, and Paul, those
Speaker 1: are guys that you want to bring into the locker room.
Speaker 1: Those are dogs, guys that don't understand, Guys that need
Speaker 1: to be motivated from external forces. You've heard me talk
Speaker 1: about this, Paul for years. You want internally motivated dudes,
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson is an internally motivated guy. Doesn't need
Speaker 1: anyone else to tell them what to do or how
Speaker 1: to do it well or Jim Mhundra went through Will
Speaker 1: Anderson's press conference with the media the Combine, and here
Speaker 1: was one question that's out the moment where he embraced football.
Speaker 1: Football Like it really didn't click from me at first,
Speaker 1: Like I was just like out there, but it kind
Speaker 1: of started my sophomore year of high school at a
Speaker 1: new coach, coach Clifford Fair and honestly, like one day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: made me cry in the weight room because I couldn't
Speaker 1: lifted weight and He's like, go down to the last rat.
Speaker 1: And then after that, like my whole mentality, my whole
Speaker 1: mindset for the game, my passion for the game changed
Speaker 1: and I started loving it. I started embracing that challenge.
Speaker 1: I started embracing him getting on me, and it got
Speaker 1: to the point where we had to bring break. We're
Speaker 1: in a break. I'm like, coach, I don't want extra work,
Speaker 1: Like come on, like I don't want to be doing
Speaker 1: what everybody was doing. Can you come meet me up
Speaker 1: at the high school? And its started gets to the
Speaker 1: point where I'm challenging him at practice like we're gonna
Speaker 1: let practice go back like that, like no pass today
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And that's when I started embracing
Speaker 1: the game and loving the game and having passion forward.
Speaker 1: Wow that you gotta let the just hang, Just let
Speaker 1: that that resonate. There's there's an ESPN story where an
Speaker 1: executive for an NFC team. This person is anonymous, but
Speaker 1: here was the quote from one of the executives in
Speaker 1: the NFL quote, Will Anderson is way more likely to
Speaker 1: succeed in the NFL than any of these quarters backs
Speaker 1: in the draft. And it's not even closet. So I
Speaker 1: think when we all hear that, you just hope and
Speaker 1: pray that the need for a quarterback at one and
Speaker 1: two leaves Will Anderson on the board at three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Polly I'm gonna be okay with that. I Am going
Speaker 1: to be okay if in fact, the quarterbacks get taken
Speaker 1: number one and two and there's Will Anderson at number three. Now, again,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a slam donk yet that he's
Speaker 1: going to be number three. A lot of this depends
Speaker 1: on Jalen Carter and what is going to happen with
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, of course, but Will Anderson is such a
Speaker 1: rare talent when you've got that kind of ability, that
Speaker 1: kind of talent, and yet you have the toughness that
Speaker 1: he has and the love of a game that he has.
Speaker 1: You know what happened to Will Anderson and what he
Speaker 1: just said Polly about that strength coach. That was hard
Speaker 1: coaching right there. That was hard coaching. That was a
Speaker 1: frying pan in the face metaphorically speaking. It was hard coaching.
Speaker 1: And that is something that to me is a warm
Speaker 1: blanket on a cold winter's night, and it's something that
Speaker 1: isn't always embraced in today's game. Off We all know
Speaker 1: that so and look, Alabama is highly competitive. A lot
Speaker 1: of their practices are a lot more competitive than some
Speaker 1: of the games they play. And Will Anderson was asked
Speaker 1: about that being in Alabama made me very versatile, dropping
Speaker 1: a coverage, you know, playing a four of five techniques, six,
Speaker 1: tight nique seven, all that type of stuff helping me,
Speaker 1: you know, learn pass, rush, moves, run. So when I
Speaker 1: was taking myself, I see myself as a very versatile
Speaker 1: player that I I could do just about anything. But that
Speaker 1: thanks to coach Saban, you know, he trusted me a lot.
Speaker 1: He's seeing a lot in me. He seemed the potential
Speaker 1: and it helped me multi player out yep today. So
Speaker 1: when I look back at myself, I was just like
Speaker 1: Alabama made me a very versatile player. You know. It
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Chandler Jones coming out of
Speaker 1: Syracuse is a round one pick. Initially with New England,
Speaker 1: they used him a lot inside, even Chandler Jones. Now
Speaker 1: he was heavier obviously than a Will Anderson, but Will Anderson,
Speaker 1: according to him, he played quite a bit interior d
Speaker 1: line at times, and the way he tells it, he
Speaker 1: was blown up guards in centers sometimes when they put
Speaker 1: him over the nose. Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny too,
Speaker 1: just listening to that answer right there, Because I thought
Speaker 1: of two things. Number one always invoked the name of
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Okay, always do that. Remind people once again
Speaker 1: that are out there that are gonna be drafting or
Speaker 1: have the ability to draft you that Nick Saban was
Speaker 1: the guy that really coached you. Even though Nick was
Speaker 1: the head guy and you were just an edge guy,
Speaker 1: and yes he coached you, but boy, he really spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time with you. Remind people that Nick
Speaker 1: Saban was your head coach. And of course you may
Speaker 1: want to talk about Nick Vosa being the guy you
Speaker 1: really tailored your game after. And I believe he also
Speaker 1: said that earned in the combine earlier today. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Will Anderson, I think maybe he goes
Speaker 1: number one overall, but if not to the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: I think are gonna have a shot at him at
Speaker 1: number three this week. Among other things, wrote in his
Speaker 1: Scunner Report, will Anderson doesn't take plays off. I'm like
Speaker 1: that's enough, that's enough for me, just stop right there,
Speaker 1: and then talks about how his versatility, how Willie plays
Speaker 1: the run. On the other hand, I heard Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: say today an NFL network that he projects five the
Speaker 1: top nineteen players in this draft are edge rushers. It
Speaker 1: is deep, so you could have, you know, a Tyree Wilson,
Speaker 1: for example, out of Texas Tech. Let's just say the
Speaker 1: Cardinals trade down to number four with Indianapolis, number nine
Speaker 1: with Carolina. There's a chance that a Tyree Wilson might
Speaker 1: be there. They maybe one of those Clemson edge rushers
Speaker 1: might be there. And if you're getting picks, if you're
Speaker 1: getting volume and quantity, to what degree does it replace quantity?
Speaker 1: And how do you weigh the two? Yeah, no, that
Speaker 1: is it always comes down to that Paulli, It really does.
Speaker 1: I don't know they have a chart that much. I
Speaker 1: do know. I don't know exactly what they would be
Speaker 1: offered for that number three pick. It depends, of course,
Speaker 1: how much the Arizona Cardinals would be moving down. This
Speaker 1: is me selfishly. I hope they don't trade out of
Speaker 1: the top ten. I hope they don't do that. But
Speaker 1: you know, again, as I say that, immediately, it always
Speaker 1: comes back to what is being offered. How much is
Speaker 1: somebody willing to give you to move up to that
Speaker 1: number three spot right there? I think the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: are sitting in a very good place right now. But
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see how everything transpires. And look,
Speaker 1: this is just me, but Indianapolis is sitting there at
Speaker 1: number four. They have a dire need for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They've drafted only two quarterbacks in Round one since ninety eight.
Speaker 1: That would be obviously be paying Manning and Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: You got Carolina at number nine. What are they doing
Speaker 1: for quarterback? The Raiders in number seven? Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: even the Jets are so desperate if they don't end
Speaker 1: up with Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr. They're sitting there
Speaker 1: at number thirteen. The Buccaneers in number nineteen. Now, that's
Speaker 1: a long way to go. They would have to pay
Speaker 1: a lot. Washington at six, team, are they really sticking
Speaker 1: with Sam Howell? So, I mean there's a lot of possibilities,
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that have a serious need of
Speaker 1: the most important position on the field. Yeah, PAULI. And
Speaker 1: because of that, right there you mentioned the Indianapolis Colts, Paul,
Speaker 1: I could honestly see the Colts getting so desperate falling
Speaker 1: in love with CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young to a
Speaker 1: point where they could move up to number one. I
Speaker 1: could see that because they know if in fact the
Speaker 1: Bears draft a player. If they draft a player, they're
Speaker 1: not going to take a quarterback. If they draft that player, man,
Speaker 1: the Colts are going to be sitting there thinking somebody's
Speaker 1: going to move up to number three. Somebody is going
Speaker 1: to do that move up to three because they know
Speaker 1: we want a quarterback at number four. They'll be sitting
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. In fact, mel kiper that's
Speaker 1: his scenario this week, and his two point zero is
Speaker 1: that the first two spots are traded out, that Houston
Speaker 1: actually goes up to number one. They want Bryce Young
Speaker 1: so much, and then Indie gets freaked out they trade
Speaker 1: up to number two to grab CJ. Stroud, which in
Speaker 1: that case the Cardinals would be sitting there at number
Speaker 1: three and Will Anderson would be available. His twenty seven
Speaker 1: and a half sacks and fifty four tackles for loss
Speaker 1: over the past two seasons sold. Yeah, exactly. I'll take
Speaker 1: that scenario, Paul, yep or if there are then again
Speaker 1: here it comes right. The truck, the draft Capital truck
Speaker 1: would back up Paul and then dump on it at
Speaker 1: number three, and once again we're going to get a
Speaker 1: lot of these answers. I think on Saturday nights, if
Speaker 1: somebody goes out there and they absolutely crush these combined drills,
Speaker 1: and you just watch, just watch these guys fly up
Speaker 1: the charts. If indeed it's a Will Levis or an
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, you see it every year, and teams start
Speaker 1: to salivate over that quarterback and they're willing to make
Speaker 1: that investment and go all in. So so we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. And I know the Cardinals at that point,
Speaker 1: you know it could be the beneficiary, whether indeed two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are taken ahead of them, they get Will Anderson
Speaker 1: or someone so desperate at QB is sitting there at
Speaker 1: number three and they're able to cash that in. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, with the top two quarterbacks right
Speaker 1: now as it stands, CJ. Stroud and Bryce Young, those
Speaker 1: two guys. CJ. Stroud is about the outside, Bryce Young
Speaker 1: is about the inside, and yet they're both coveted. Interesting.
Speaker 1: By the way, a quick pro tip to Bryce Young,
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Speaker 1: and then he sits down with any top part. So
Speaker 1: the word flex says many meanings these days. It's what
Speaker 1: the kids used to say, you know, bragging right there.
Speaker 1: But Adrian Wilson was literally flexing at that moment, Ron Wolfley, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was doing the crab as I recall, I think
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson. Okay, there you go, he was game ready.
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson one of the many characters and names at
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three combine. We're gonna flex here on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We are Satan Ford, Paul Calvc, Ron Wolfley, and now
Speaker 1: senior writer of Azy Cardinals dot Com, Darren Urban, who
Speaker 1: might have spotted Adrian Wilson, the new Carolina VP of
Speaker 1: Player Personnel by the way, and the Cardinals Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor members. So Darren given everyone up to date on
Speaker 1: the news. Welcome from Indy and have you run into
Speaker 1: a dub in your travels? Yeah? I Actually it was
Speaker 1: funny today. We were eating lunch, a few of us
Speaker 1: at the Steak and Shake and saw him go past
Speaker 1: us outside walking on the sidewalk. Didn't have a chance
Speaker 1: to say anything because we were inside. But then later
Speaker 1: a handful of us were walking to the hotel and
Speaker 1: he was walking towards the stadium and I got a
Speaker 1: chance to dap him up a little bit and just
Speaker 1: say congrats again and I texted him a little bit
Speaker 1: the night the news broke that he was going to Airline,
Speaker 1: which was the first night we were here. It was
Speaker 1: funny because I happened to be eating dinner with a
Speaker 1: couple of Carolina Panthers people that I know, and and
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, who is the guy who broke the news,
Speaker 1: actually was eating dinner in the same place. We had
Speaker 1: walked past them about ten minutes previous. But I sat
Speaker 1: down and then all of a sudden, he's tweeting out
Speaker 1: that Adrian Wilson was joining the Panthers, so that I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting. Durb on that note,
Speaker 1: right there, has the front office is it solidified now,
Speaker 1: kind of like the coaching staff has been solidified as
Speaker 1: a front office solidified now Undermanni Assenford. I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, I think probably. You know, well, if
Speaker 1: one of those one of the things that comes with
Speaker 1: the front office and scouts and stuff is sometimes you
Speaker 1: get you get through draft the draft before those are
Speaker 1: actually finalized, those kinds of things, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to change too much. You know. Adrian Wilson did have
Speaker 1: time left on his contract, and uh, but he had
Speaker 1: this opportunity to come up with the Panthers. As he
Speaker 1: noted in his goodbye note on Twitter, Adrian said that
Speaker 1: monti As Sport wanted him to stick around, but he
Speaker 1: wanted to have this chance to go do this other opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I think it makes a lot of sense for
Speaker 1: Adrian because he was kind of stuck where after Monty
Speaker 1: got hired here. But in terms of how the front
Speaker 1: offices for the Cardinals now, I mean, we I don't
Speaker 1: know if we know exactly what everybody's titles will be exactly,
Speaker 1: but you've got your assistant GM and Dave Sears, You've
Speaker 1: got monti As and fort. I think you've got some
Speaker 1: other key people in the front office Josh Scobie and
Speaker 1: Andrew Grigson that are going to, you know, remain and
Speaker 1: be a part of it. Quentin Harris is still here,
Speaker 1: so I do think for the most part that's that's
Speaker 1: settled down to a certain extent. But I kind of
Speaker 1: want to see where it is after the draft. And
Speaker 1: of course, Adrian Wilson grew up in the care Carolinas.
Speaker 1: He played in North Carolina State, so in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, he's going home when he flowed any by
Speaker 1: the way, sources telling me he was in a middle
Speaker 1: seat on a Southwest flight, so it was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good, little little humble pie for Adrian Wilson, the
Speaker 1: all time great. It's good for him to get the
Speaker 1: humble on A. Yeah, he ruined somebody's flight, don't make it.
Speaker 1: I will clarify this, guys. He did have a middle seat,
Speaker 1: but he was sitting between Chris Melvin and Matt Carciolo,
Speaker 1: two guys that he's just been working with for a
Speaker 1: number of yeers. So I don't think it was that
Speaker 1: bad for anybody involved in I think I can't confirm this,
Speaker 1: but there's a possibility that Chris Melvin, who had been
Speaker 1: sitting in the window seat, got up to use the
Speaker 1: restroom and Adrian stole the window seat for the rest
Speaker 1: of us fight. You know what, you know what, that
Speaker 1: would make sense. You know, we did the show, this
Speaker 1: very show. He was a player host for this show,
Speaker 1: so that would fit with his scoutter report. Adrian Wilson,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Before we get into other
Speaker 1: cardinal scounter reports and some of the big names are
Speaker 1: going to have their eye on like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson, who was working out this evening, tell us
Speaker 1: about some of the off the field stuff, in particular
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, who has been linked to the Cardinals, has
Speaker 1: been even installed as a number one pick by a
Speaker 1: lot of the mock drafts. But give us the quick
Speaker 1: update on that, because he was booked and release from
Speaker 1: the County Police back in Athens, Georgia, and two misdemeanor
Speaker 1: counts of racing and reckless driving in connection to the
Speaker 1: fatal crash on January fifteenth. But he returned today, did
Speaker 1: he not, Darren to complete all the interviews and the measurements. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he came back. I don't know how much he was
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think he was going to work out
Speaker 1: in the first place. Correct. Gotten here, he had interviewed
Speaker 1: with some teams, and then the news came down that
Speaker 1: the arrestaurant was out. He flew back to Georgia to
Speaker 1: go through that. From the reporting is that these chargers
Speaker 1: are misdemeanors. So he went through the process there and
Speaker 1: then flew back to any Indiana so that whatever interviews
Speaker 1: he had left in the measurements he needed he could
Speaker 1: get those done. And it's it's going to be a
Speaker 1: fascinating thing. What this means for Jalen Carter? Is this
Speaker 1: a one off? Obviously we don't know as much as
Speaker 1: others how much what Jalen Carter is like as a person. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this isn't a great look. And he came out and
Speaker 1: he said he'll be vindicated and it's not he it's
Speaker 1: not what people are saying happened. Happened. So we'll see
Speaker 1: where that goes. But yeah, he was. He was in
Speaker 1: the discussion for the number one overall pick. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people saying, well, maybe the Cardinals take him
Speaker 1: at third overall. And now you've got to wonder a
Speaker 1: little bit about where he might end up, where he
Speaker 1: might slip to because of all this. Yeah, it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me. It's the veracity and the validity of his
Speaker 1: comments and his denial that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are going to look at and determining what kind
Speaker 1: of facts are out there that dispute what he said.
Speaker 1: I think that ultimately is going to do. Aside, if
Speaker 1: this impacts his draft status, what do you think on that? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously how clean he came with teams I
Speaker 1: think makes a big difference but again, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to kind of see where how teams kind of evaluate
Speaker 1: him anyways, you know, if this is a one off
Speaker 1: type of thing when people looked into his background and
Speaker 1: because the thing is, well if we don't know how
Speaker 1: people saw him or what kind of reports people had
Speaker 1: on him as as a as a person, yeah before this,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing is, like all we hear Steve
Speaker 1: kan used to say it, Monti off Support has already
Speaker 1: said it a few times. To me, it's it's you
Speaker 1: miss on a person more than the player. I think
Speaker 1: people mostly know that Jalen Carter is an immensely talented
Speaker 1: football player. But if you get the wrong person, then
Speaker 1: what what do you You don't want to end up
Speaker 1: with Robert Camdici, You know, That's right kind of what
Speaker 1: the thing is. Yeah, that's where the Cardinals struck out.
Speaker 1: They obviously hit home runs with a Darnell Docket, a
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew who had questions all the field going, but
Speaker 1: those were third round picks, so we'll see. I fully
Speaker 1: expect Jalen Carter to be on the board in number three,
Speaker 1: not just because of this, but I think quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: going one, two and then the Cardinals will have their
Speaker 1: pick of Will Anderson, for example, and again he's been
Speaker 1: getting a lot of accolades. You were at his press
Speaker 1: conference front and center, Darren, So tell us some of
Speaker 1: your big takeaways on the Alabama pass rusher. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I really liked I like the interaction. Now, with full disclosure,
Speaker 1: I've been coming to the combine for more than twenty years.
Speaker 1: I remember I really liked Wendell Bryant's press conference too,
Speaker 1: and that was blew up. But gotcha. I liked the
Speaker 1: things Will Anderson had to say about loving the game.
Speaker 1: I loved what he had to say about being humble
Speaker 1: and fitting into whatever culture heat goes into. And obviously
Speaker 1: he's tremendously productive on the field. So there's just a
Speaker 1: lot that you can like about a Will Anderson, especially
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the Cardinals, who could use some
Speaker 1: kind of dynamic die off the edge like that. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I personally think the same thing
Speaker 1: as Wolf. I think those first two picks are going
Speaker 1: to end up being quarterbacks. I do think the Bears
Speaker 1: are going to trade out of their pick, and obviously
Speaker 1: the Texans are going to take a quarterback. So the
Speaker 1: question then becomes what quarterbacks are left at three, who
Speaker 1: might want to come up to three, and what the
Speaker 1: Cardinals might be handed in terms of potential trades versus
Speaker 1: let's say taking a Will Anderson and Wolf Darren has
Speaker 1: a great story and Will Anderson and easy Cardinals dot com.
Speaker 1: Right now, everyone can read about one of those quotes
Speaker 1: I know probably stood out to you when Will Anderson says, quote,
Speaker 1: nothing has to motivate me to get ready to play
Speaker 1: a football game. It's always in me. That's how much
Speaker 1: I love the game. I'm guessing you love that mindset,
Speaker 1: you know what, Polly? Honestly, Will, can I hug you
Speaker 1: right now? Come over here, give me a hug because
Speaker 1: I really need to listen. This is exactly how you
Speaker 1: want your football players to think it is. And Guys,
Speaker 1: once again, I totally understand what Derb is saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what. You can listen to a guy get interviewed,
Speaker 1: listen to his answers, and man, it really makes you
Speaker 1: love the guy. But tape is always what you have
Speaker 1: to back it up with. And that's where I think
Speaker 1: Will Anderson shines. Guys. I'm sorry, it's the tape and
Speaker 1: if ever there was going to be a head coach
Speaker 1: that was going to look at a guy, an edge
Speaker 1: guy like Will Anderson and say, man, I really really
Speaker 1: value that. I think Jonathan Gannon might be that guy.
Speaker 1: JG might be that guy because one of the things
Speaker 1: he did with the Philadelphia Eagles a lot is rush four.
Speaker 1: He rushed four and he drops seven. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he didn't bring five from time to time. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he didn't blitz. But a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that the Eagles did is rush four, drop seven
Speaker 1: into coverage. And if you're going to do that, you
Speaker 1: better have a guy coming off the edge that is special.
Speaker 1: And I think Will Anderson is special. Hey, Darren Urban
Speaker 1: is our guest here in the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert at the Combine. Been going
Speaker 1: there for almost two decades or so, Darren, and I
Speaker 1: know you were there when monti As and Ford the
Speaker 1: Cardinals new GM met the media. Some of the bullet points.
Speaker 1: He confirmed. They want to keep Zach Allen and Byron Murphy.
Speaker 1: They're two big penning free agents. No decision on Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons fifth year option. They have until May still undecided
Speaker 1: on the future at d hop they've had meetings and
Speaker 1: then open for business to trading the number three pick overall.
Speaker 1: Just pick it up from there. And what do you think?
Speaker 1: Do you think that there'll be such a run on
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that someone might indeed make the Cardinals an offer
Speaker 1: they can't refuse. I mean, I think it's possible, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And what's going to be interesting is this, If you're
Speaker 1: the Bears and you end up staying at one and
Speaker 1: deciding Will Anderson is that guy, and then the Texans
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, then there's definitely going to be open
Speaker 1: for business for a couple of things. One, I think
Speaker 1: if William Anderson's off the board, I don't see a
Speaker 1: big reason for the Cardinals to want to stay there.
Speaker 1: And if that plays out that way, anyways, there's going
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback that somebody's gonna want to come
Speaker 1: up and get. So do I think there's a good
Speaker 1: chance that they're gonna get offers on that number three
Speaker 1: pick no matter how it plays out. Yes. My My
Speaker 1: big question then is if will Anderson is there at three,
Speaker 1: is it big enough for you to pass on that
Speaker 1: because you will, in all likelihood be passing on that
Speaker 1: if you trade down from three and he's still on
Speaker 1: the board, is it big enough to want to do that?
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna listen. I think they need
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Once the comp picks come out,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna end up with eight draft picks
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, could they use a couple more? Sure
Speaker 1: they could. And if you're trading down down from number three,
Speaker 1: depending on where you go, you could get another pick
Speaker 1: or two in addition to flip flopping first round er. So, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot there's a lot of possibility there that happening. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things that were literally probably
Speaker 1: not going to know anything until that clock is already
Speaker 1: running that first night in the draft. Right, one of
Speaker 1: the big questions left Bryce Young what's he gonna weigh
Speaker 1: in at? What's he gonna measure at in terms of
Speaker 1: his height? Right? And and maybe that's our transition to
Speaker 1: the shrimp cocktail at Saint Elmo's. Have you gone out?
Speaker 1: Have you had dinner yet? At the Marquee place there
Speaker 1: in Indy? We did. We had it on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals group here that I'm with from Digital went
Speaker 1: there and had some shrimp, had a big steak and
Speaker 1: it was awesome as usual. Here's the other thing that's crazy.
Speaker 1: The low in Indianapolis last night was forty. The low
Speaker 1: in the valley last night was thirty five. So what's
Speaker 1: going on with that? Oh, it's been it's been crazy
Speaker 1: nice during the day. I'll say that, No Jack sweat it.
Speaker 1: We continue with a big red rage got gun staff
Speaker 1: at the free step, drop open in the pocket, buyers
Speaker 1: across the middle. It's intercepted. It was deflected and picked
Speaker 1: off by Byron Murphy. Lawrence takes turns, gives to hide.
Speaker 1: It's a police flicker, pitching it back to Laurence season
Speaker 1: trouble jump off past picked off there side by Murphy
Speaker 1: at the thirty, running it back to the left of
Speaker 1: the twenty ten five club down the Byron Murphy after
Speaker 1: a horrible mistake by the rookie with a pick six,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are back in front. Twenty three to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was all over that that's a great read
Speaker 1: by a young guy coming of age. Tell you what,
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, big name for the Arizona Cardinals, big position,
Speaker 1: and we know the big talent in Byron Murphy. Might
Speaker 1: they get a steal in free agency just because of
Speaker 1: the way last season went and it wasn't a complete
Speaker 1: season and maybe, just maybe in terms of this season,
Speaker 1: it might benefit the Cardinals. Will see, because it seems
Speaker 1: if you built your finger to the free agency win,
Speaker 1: it's two different directions. Zach Allen and Byron Murphy, and
Speaker 1: those are the two big names of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert We are santan Ford Special. Thanks again, Darren
Speaker 1: Urban on the front lines there in Indianapolis at the
Speaker 1: two twenty three combine, we briefly talked about Zach Allen
Speaker 1: and Byron Murphy. You tell us, Wolf, what do you
Speaker 1: think the future holds for the young cornerback Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: and what are the odds of Cardinals are able to
Speaker 1: keep him in the fold? Yeah? Boy, you know what's Paul,
Speaker 1: That's a great question right there, because obviously with Byron
Speaker 1: Murphy it's all about his back and the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: no exactly what the issue was last year and what
Speaker 1: kind of projection they've got for Byron Murphy going forward.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of that is going to
Speaker 1: determine as to whether or not the Cardinals make a
Speaker 1: serious run at Byron Murphy. I think Zach Allen is
Speaker 1: a guy Michael Bidwell as well has already talked about this.
Speaker 1: I think Zach Allen is a guy they may actually
Speaker 1: target in free agency. Paully, I think, I think more
Speaker 1: than anything else, this is a very very specific free
Speaker 1: agent class that mantiasin Fords and the Arizona Cardinals are
Speaker 1: going to try to go after. And when I say that,
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't see an You tell me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here, Polly, But I don't see them
Speaker 1: going after any type of big name players. I really
Speaker 1: do not. I see them focusing on pros, guys that
Speaker 1: have been around, especially in particular on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: in the defensive line, Guys that may not be going
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, but they certainly are not going
Speaker 1: to get you beat on Sunday. I think they're going
Speaker 1: to really value those types of guys. Can I give
Speaker 1: you a couple of names, Paul that I think, um
Speaker 1: they would focus on. Calvin Beacham. Can I say Calvin Beacham,
Speaker 1: start right there? That is the type of guy that
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. A guy that is a great locker
Speaker 1: room leader, a guy that is a dog, a guy
Speaker 1: that is really intelligent, a guy that's um. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: not going to the Pro Bowl, but he certainly is
Speaker 1: not gonna get you beat. Will Hernandez is another name.
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez to me, Polly, before he got hurt, Will
Speaker 1: Hernandez was the Arizona Cardinal's best offensive lineman. Totally agree.
Speaker 1: So those are the names that I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be looking for, especially since d Jeffreys had such
Speaker 1: an incomplete season. Yes, and you know what, there are
Speaker 1: so many needs. I agree with you. There's not one
Speaker 1: player that's going to put this team over the top
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and hence I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: target that big name in free agency. However, I'll throw
Speaker 1: this out there if there is one position I think
Speaker 1: they go after and maybe spend some serious money on
Speaker 1: beyond is Zach Allen and a Byron Murphy center. If
Speaker 1: there's a free agent young center still in his time
Speaker 1: and are Craig Grilo identified the Brown starting center. Hello,
Speaker 1: Drew Petsy new offensive coordinator, the Brown starting center whose
Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce he he might be a likely
Speaker 1: free agent target. Maybe, just maybe. Now that's just all
Speaker 1: of us on the outside looking in, thinking out loud
Speaker 1: here as I would, Polly. Can I interrupt by right
Speaker 1: now because you had me at the Cleveland Browns Center.
Speaker 1: This is an offense that is blending the old and
Speaker 1: the new. This is an offense who does it as
Speaker 1: well as anybody in the National Football League. This is
Speaker 1: an offense that lines up and understands the physicality. I
Speaker 1: love what you just said, Polly about that because the
Speaker 1: possibility of going out in signing these free agents. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you right now, it's going to become the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals DNA. It's gonna become many Assenfort's fingerprint metaphorically speaking,
Speaker 1: it's going to become his fingerprint because the type of
Speaker 1: person they go get, the type of player they go
Speaker 1: get from a team and a scheme, whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: it's gonna say a lot about what the Arizonal Cardinals
Speaker 1: are going to value and what they're going to try
Speaker 1: to do going forward. Paul, I love that. Remember what
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell said a day pass on the pashpod that
Speaker 1: this system of best player available is about to become
Speaker 1: our quote former system that we're gonna be looking for
Speaker 1: certain types of player with certain types of characteristics. In fact,
Speaker 1: with more on that, here's Jonathan Gannon just on collaborating
Speaker 1: with the new GM monti Astinford on free agency. We're
Speaker 1: gonna lean on his side a lot, and he'll lean
Speaker 1: on our side a lot. But ultimately, it's not about
Speaker 1: who's making decisions. It's about we make the right decisions
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And you know, the vision that I
Speaker 1: had of how I wanted to work with a person
Speaker 1: now the coaches, how we're going to work with a
Speaker 1: personnel side vice versa aligns, you know, very much in
Speaker 1: the same. So, you know, just excited about getting that process,
Speaker 1: which we've done, we've you know, started that, and you know,
Speaker 1: we just got to be right on the people that
Speaker 1: we bring in to help our team win. And owner
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell also confirmed to Dave Pasha, Yes, Zach Allen
Speaker 1: is a priority. The Cardinals want him back. Zach Allen
Speaker 1: wants to be back, so we'll see that might be
Speaker 1: the first announcement, the first move in this free agency
Speaker 1: process real soon. Yeah, boy, would I be okay with that?
Speaker 1: Would you be okay with that. Paul zach Allen, I
Speaker 1: think he still has tons of upside. I really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, Wolf, we saw every snap of every game,
Speaker 1: how many sacks was this close to getting home? I mean,
Speaker 1: he could have put up phenomenal numbers. And then finally
Speaker 1: the sacks started to come about mid season. But he
Speaker 1: was a problem. He was disruptive all year. Yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: and I think he learned an awful lot from J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I know he learned an
Speaker 1: awful lot from J. J. Watts. He definitely went out
Speaker 1: and tried to replicate some of the things that J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt would do, including how good he is at defending
Speaker 1: passes and knocking him down at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: So I think, zach Allen, you're right if there's going
Speaker 1: to be a big name, and I consider that to
Speaker 1: be a big name, at least with Cardinal fans. Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal had zach Allen rated number fourteen, the number fourteen
Speaker 1: rated free agent coming out this year. Think about that,
Speaker 1: He's top fifteen according to Greg Rosenthal. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see that happening. Bolli And by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing Team Zach Allen Zach and his Asian probably a
Speaker 1: pretty good sense of his worth right about now, because
Speaker 1: that's where all this happens. During the combine, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of conversations and what either side is looking for.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we were looking for the name
Speaker 1: our Jim Mo Monro found at Ethan Posk that is
Speaker 1: a starting center for the Cleveland Browns who might hit
Speaker 1: the free agency market and maybe just maybe dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: We're just throwing that out there because we saw the
Speaker 1: value of Rodney Hudson the first half of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one when he had an above average capable center in
Speaker 1: what it did for Kyler Murray. In this Cardinals Offense
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