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Speaker 1: Darren Urban from the Combine. Next on the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 1: What's so funny? Hey, dump just came up behind you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just came the beast bog Oh baby got me

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Speaker 1: all jack off. That mother is ready to go. Right there,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, I mean, I feel you, bro. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Dumps over there, lay going on and the book match

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Speaker 1: to us. How awesome is that dude, the scout, he's

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Speaker 1: feeling it. The blood is on the boil here tonight.

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Speaker 1: His sport jacket fits like a glove I think probably

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Speaker 1: costs more in your car. And he's about to rip

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Speaker 1: that thing in half though. He goes hulk mode on you,

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Speaker 1: and then he sits down with any top part. So

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Speaker 1: the word flex says many meanings these days. It's what

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Speaker 1: the kids used to say, you know, bragging right there.

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Speaker 1: But Adrian Wilson was literally flexing at that moment, Ron Wolfley, Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was doing the crab as I recall, I think

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Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson. Okay, there you go, he was game ready.

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Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson one of the many characters and names at

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three combine. We're gonna flex here on

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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: We are Satan Ford, Paul Calvc, Ron Wolfley, and now

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Speaker 1: senior writer of Azy Cardinals dot Com, Darren Urban, who

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Speaker 1: might have spotted Adrian Wilson, the new Carolina VP of

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Speaker 1: Player Personnel by the way, and the Cardinals Ring of

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Speaker 1: Honor members. So Darren given everyone up to date on

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Speaker 1: the news. Welcome from Indy and have you run into

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Speaker 1: a dub in your travels? Yeah? I Actually it was

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Speaker 1: funny today. We were eating lunch, a few of us

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Speaker 1: at the Steak and Shake and saw him go past

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Speaker 1: us outside walking on the sidewalk. Didn't have a chance

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Speaker 1: to say anything because we were inside. But then later

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Speaker 1: a handful of us were walking to the hotel and

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Speaker 1: he was walking towards the stadium and I got a

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Speaker 1: chance to dap him up a little bit and just

466
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Speaker 1: say congrats again and I texted him a little bit

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Speaker 1: the night the news broke that he was going to Airline,

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Speaker 1: which was the first night we were here. It was

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Speaker 1: funny because I happened to be eating dinner with a

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Speaker 1: couple of Carolina Panthers people that I know, and and

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, who is the guy who broke the news,

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Speaker 1: actually was eating dinner in the same place. We had

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Speaker 1: walked past them about ten minutes previous. But I sat

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Speaker 1: down and then all of a sudden, he's tweeting out

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Speaker 1: that Adrian Wilson was joining the Panthers, so that I

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Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting. Durb on that note,

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Speaker 1: right there, has the front office is it solidified now,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the coaching staff has been solidified as

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Speaker 1: a front office solidified now Undermanni Assenford. I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part, I think probably. You know, well, if

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Speaker 1: one of those one of the things that comes with

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Speaker 1: the front office and scouts and stuff is sometimes you

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Speaker 1: get you get through draft the draft before those are

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Speaker 1: actually finalized, those kinds of things, because you don't want

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Speaker 1: to change too much. You know. Adrian Wilson did have

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Speaker 1: time left on his contract, and uh, but he had

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Speaker 1: this opportunity to come up with the Panthers. As he

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Speaker 1: noted in his goodbye note on Twitter, Adrian said that

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Speaker 1: monti As Sport wanted him to stick around, but he

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Speaker 1: wanted to have this chance to go do this other opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And I think it makes a lot of sense for

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Speaker 1: Adrian because he was kind of stuck where after Monty

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Speaker 1: got hired here. But in terms of how the front

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Speaker 1: offices for the Cardinals now, I mean, we I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we know exactly what everybody's titles will be exactly,

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Speaker 1: but you've got your assistant GM and Dave Sears, You've

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Speaker 1: got monti As and fort. I think you've got some

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Speaker 1: other key people in the front office Josh Scobie and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Grigson that are going to, you know, remain and

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Speaker 1: be a part of it. Quentin Harris is still here,

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Speaker 1: so I do think for the most part that's that's

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Speaker 1: settled down to a certain extent. But I kind of

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Speaker 1: want to see where it is after the draft. And

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Speaker 1: of course, Adrian Wilson grew up in the care Carolinas.

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Speaker 1: He played in North Carolina State, so in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, he's going home when he flowed any by

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Speaker 1: the way, sources telling me he was in a middle

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Speaker 1: seat on a Southwest flight, so it was good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good, little little humble pie for Adrian Wilson, the

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Speaker 1: all time great. It's good for him to get the

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Speaker 1: humble on A. Yeah, he ruined somebody's flight, don't make it.

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Speaker 1: I will clarify this, guys. He did have a middle seat,

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Speaker 1: but he was sitting between Chris Melvin and Matt Carciolo,

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Speaker 1: two guys that he's just been working with for a

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Speaker 1: number of yeers. So I don't think it was that

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Speaker 1: bad for anybody involved in I think I can't confirm this,

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Speaker 1: but there's a possibility that Chris Melvin, who had been

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Speaker 1: sitting in the window seat, got up to use the

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Speaker 1: restroom and Adrian stole the window seat for the rest

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Speaker 1: of us fight. You know what, you know what, that

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Speaker 1: would make sense. You know, we did the show, this

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Speaker 1: very show. He was a player host for this show,

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Speaker 1: so that would fit with his scoutter report. Adrian Wilson,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Before we get into other

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Speaker 1: cardinal scounter reports and some of the big names are

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Speaker 1: going to have their eye on like, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, who was working out this evening, tell us

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Speaker 1: about some of the off the field stuff, in particular

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, who has been linked to the Cardinals, has

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Speaker 1: been even installed as a number one pick by a

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Speaker 1: lot of the mock drafts. But give us the quick

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Speaker 1: update on that, because he was booked and release from

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Speaker 1: the County Police back in Athens, Georgia, and two misdemeanor

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Speaker 1: counts of racing and reckless driving in connection to the

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Speaker 1: fatal crash on January fifteenth. But he returned today, did

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Speaker 1: he not, Darren to complete all the interviews and the measurements. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he came back. I don't know how much he was

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Speaker 1: gonna I don't think he was going to work out

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Correct. Gotten here, he had interviewed

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Speaker 1: with some teams, and then the news came down that

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Speaker 1: the arrestaurant was out. He flew back to Georgia to

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Speaker 1: go through that. From the reporting is that these chargers

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Speaker 1: are misdemeanors. So he went through the process there and

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Speaker 1: then flew back to any Indiana so that whatever interviews

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Speaker 1: he had left in the measurements he needed he could

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Speaker 1: get those done. And it's it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: fascinating thing. What this means for Jalen Carter? Is this

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Speaker 1: a one off? Obviously we don't know as much as

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Speaker 1: others how much what Jalen Carter is like as a person. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a great look. And he came out and

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Speaker 1: he said he'll be vindicated and it's not he it's

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Speaker 1: not what people are saying happened. Happened. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: where that goes. But yeah, he was. He was in

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Speaker 1: the discussion for the number one overall pick. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people saying, well, maybe the Cardinals take him

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Speaker 1: at third overall. And now you've got to wonder a

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Speaker 1: little bit about where he might end up, where he

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Speaker 1: might slip to because of all this. Yeah, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. It's the veracity and the validity of his

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Speaker 1: comments and his denial that I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are going to look at and determining what kind

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Speaker 1: of facts are out there that dispute what he said.

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Speaker 1: I think that ultimately is going to do. Aside, if

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Speaker 1: this impacts his draft status, what do you think on that? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously how clean he came with teams I

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Speaker 1: think makes a big difference but again, we're gonna have

567
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Speaker 1: to kind of see where how teams kind of evaluate

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Speaker 1: him anyways, you know, if this is a one off

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Speaker 1: type of thing when people looked into his background and

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Speaker 1: because the thing is, well if we don't know how

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Speaker 1: people saw him or what kind of reports people had

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Speaker 1: on him as as a as a person, yeah before this,

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing is, like all we hear Steve

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Speaker 1: kan used to say it, Monti off Support has already

575
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Speaker 1: said it a few times. To me, it's it's you

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Speaker 1: miss on a person more than the player. I think

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Speaker 1: people mostly know that Jalen Carter is an immensely talented

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Speaker 1: football player. But if you get the wrong person, then

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Speaker 1: what what do you You don't want to end up

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Speaker 1: with Robert Camdici, You know, That's right kind of what

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Speaker 1: the thing is. Yeah, that's where the Cardinals struck out.

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Speaker 1: They obviously hit home runs with a Darnell Docket, a

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew who had questions all the field going, but

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Speaker 1: those were third round picks, so we'll see. I fully

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Speaker 1: expect Jalen Carter to be on the board in number three,

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Speaker 1: not just because of this, but I think quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: going one, two and then the Cardinals will have their

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Speaker 1: pick of Will Anderson, for example, and again he's been

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of accolades. You were at his press

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Speaker 1: conference front and center, Darren, So tell us some of

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Speaker 1: your big takeaways on the Alabama pass rusher. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really liked I like the interaction. Now, with full disclosure,

593
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Speaker 1: I've been coming to the combine for more than twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I remember I really liked Wendell Bryant's press conference too,

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Speaker 1: and that was blew up. But gotcha. I liked the

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Speaker 1: things Will Anderson had to say about loving the game.

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Speaker 1: I loved what he had to say about being humble

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Speaker 1: and fitting into whatever culture heat goes into. And obviously

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Speaker 1: he's tremendously productive on the field. So there's just a

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Speaker 1: lot that you can like about a Will Anderson, especially

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about the Cardinals, who could use some

602
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Speaker 1: kind of dynamic die off the edge like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I personally think the same thing

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Speaker 1: as Wolf. I think those first two picks are going

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Speaker 1: to end up being quarterbacks. I do think the Bears

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Speaker 1: are going to trade out of their pick, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the Texans are going to take a quarterback. So the

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Speaker 1: question then becomes what quarterbacks are left at three, who

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Speaker 1: might want to come up to three, and what the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals might be handed in terms of potential trades versus

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Speaker 1: let's say taking a Will Anderson and Wolf Darren has

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Speaker 1: a great story and Will Anderson and easy Cardinals dot com.

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Speaker 1: Right now, everyone can read about one of those quotes

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Speaker 1: I know probably stood out to you when Will Anderson says, quote,

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Speaker 1: nothing has to motivate me to get ready to play

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Speaker 1: a football game. It's always in me. That's how much

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Speaker 1: I love the game. I'm guessing you love that mindset,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Polly? Honestly, Will, can I hug you

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Speaker 1: right now? Come over here, give me a hug because

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Speaker 1: I really need to listen. This is exactly how you

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Speaker 1: want your football players to think it is. And Guys,

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Speaker 1: once again, I totally understand what Derb is saying. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know what. You can listen to a guy get interviewed,

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Speaker 1: listen to his answers, and man, it really makes you

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Speaker 1: love the guy. But tape is always what you have

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Speaker 1: to back it up with. And that's where I think

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson shines. Guys. I'm sorry, it's the tape and

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Speaker 1: if ever there was going to be a head coach

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Speaker 1: that was going to look at a guy, an edge

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Speaker 1: guy like Will Anderson and say, man, I really really

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Speaker 1: value that. I think Jonathan Gannon might be that guy.

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Speaker 1: JG might be that guy because one of the things

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Speaker 1: he did with the Philadelphia Eagles a lot is rush four.

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Speaker 1: He rushed four and he drops seven. Now I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he didn't bring five from time to time. I'm

636
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Speaker 1: not saying he didn't blitz. But a lot of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that the Eagles did is rush four, drop seven

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Speaker 1: into coverage. And if you're going to do that, you

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Speaker 1: better have a guy coming off the edge that is special.

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Speaker 1: And I think Will Anderson is special. Hey, Darren Urban

641
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Speaker 1: is our guest here in the Big Red Rage presented

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00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert at the Combine. Been going

643
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: there for almost two decades or so, Darren, and I

644
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: know you were there when monti As and Ford the

645
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals new GM met the media. Some of the bullet points.

646
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: He confirmed. They want to keep Zach Allen and Byron Murphy.

647
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: They're two big penning free agents. No decision on Isaiah

648
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Simmons fifth year option. They have until May still undecided

649
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: on the future at d hop they've had meetings and

650
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: then open for business to trading the number three pick overall.

651
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Speaker 1: Just pick it up from there. And what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there'll be such a run on

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that someone might indeed make the Cardinals an offer

654
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: they can't refuse. I mean, I think it's possible, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And what's going to be interesting is this, If you're

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Speaker 1: the Bears and you end up staying at one and

657
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: deciding Will Anderson is that guy, and then the Texans

658
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, then there's definitely going to be open

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00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: for business for a couple of things. One, I think

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00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: if William Anderson's off the board, I don't see a

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: big reason for the Cardinals to want to stay there.

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00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: And if that plays out that way, anyways, there's going

663
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback that somebody's gonna want to come

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Speaker 1: up and get. So do I think there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance that they're gonna get offers on that number three

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Speaker 1: pick no matter how it plays out. Yes. My My

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Speaker 1: big question then is if will Anderson is there at three,

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Speaker 1: is it big enough for you to pass on that

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Speaker 1: because you will, in all likelihood be passing on that

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00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: if you trade down from three and he's still on

671
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: the board, is it big enough to want to do that?

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00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna listen. I think they need

673
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Once the comp picks come out,

674
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna end up with eight draft picks

675
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, could they use a couple more? Sure

676
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: they could. And if you're trading down down from number three,

677
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: depending on where you go, you could get another pick

678
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: or two in addition to flip flopping first round er. So, uh,

679
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot there's a lot of possibility there that happening. Um.

680
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Speaker 1: But it's one of those things that were literally probably

681
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: not going to know anything until that clock is already

682
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: running that first night in the draft. Right, one of

683
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: the big questions left Bryce Young what's he gonna weigh

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: in at? What's he gonna measure at in terms of

685
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: his height? Right? And and maybe that's our transition to

686
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: the shrimp cocktail at Saint Elmo's. Have you gone out?

687
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: Have you had dinner yet? At the Marquee place there

688
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: in Indy? We did. We had it on Wednesday night.

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00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: The Cardinals group here that I'm with from Digital went

690
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: there and had some shrimp, had a big steak and

691
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: it was awesome as usual. Here's the other thing that's crazy.

692
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Speaker 1: The low in Indianapolis last night was forty. The low

693
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Speaker 1: in the valley last night was thirty five. So what's

694
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: going on with that? Oh, it's been it's been crazy

695
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: nice during the day. I'll say that, No Jack sweat it.

696
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: We continue with a big red rage got gun staff

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: at the free step, drop open in the pocket, buyers

698
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: across the middle. It's intercepted. It was deflected and picked

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00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: off by Byron Murphy. Lawrence takes turns, gives to hide.

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00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: It's a police flicker, pitching it back to Laurence season

701
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: trouble jump off past picked off there side by Murphy

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00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: at the thirty, running it back to the left of

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00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: the twenty ten five club down the Byron Murphy after

704
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: a horrible mistake by the rookie with a pick six,

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00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are back in front. Twenty three to nineteen.

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00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was all over that that's a great read

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: by a young guy coming of age. Tell you what,

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, big name for the Arizona Cardinals, big position,

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: and we know the big talent in Byron Murphy. Might

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00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: they get a steal in free agency just because of

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Speaker 1: the way last season went and it wasn't a complete

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: season and maybe, just maybe in terms of this season,

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Speaker 1: it might benefit the Cardinals. Will see, because it seems

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00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: if you built your finger to the free agency win,

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00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: it's two different directions. Zach Allen and Byron Murphy, and

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00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: those are the two big names of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: and Gilbert We are santan Ford Special. Thanks again, Darren

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00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Urban on the front lines there in Indianapolis at the

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00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: two twenty three combine, we briefly talked about Zach Allen

721
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: and Byron Murphy. You tell us, Wolf, what do you

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: think the future holds for the young cornerback Byron Murphy

723
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: and what are the odds of Cardinals are able to

724
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: keep him in the fold? Yeah? Boy, you know what's Paul,

725
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: That's a great question right there, because obviously with Byron

726
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: Murphy it's all about his back and the Arizona Cardinals

727
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: no exactly what the issue was last year and what

728
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of projection they've got for Byron Murphy going forward.

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00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of that is going to

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Speaker 1: determine as to whether or not the Cardinals make a

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00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: serious run at Byron Murphy. I think Zach Allen is

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00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: a guy Michael Bidwell as well has already talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I think Zach Allen is a guy they may actually

734
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Speaker 1: target in free agency. Paully, I think, I think more

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00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: than anything else, this is a very very specific free

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Speaker 1: agent class that mantiasin Fords and the Arizona Cardinals are

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00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: going to try to go after. And when I say that,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I don't see an You tell me

739
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here, Polly, But I don't see them

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00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: going after any type of big name players. I really

741
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: do not. I see them focusing on pros, guys that

742
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: have been around, especially in particular on the offensive line,

743
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: in the defensive line, Guys that may not be going

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00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, but they certainly are not going

745
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: to get you beat on Sunday. I think they're going

746
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: to really value those types of guys. Can I give

747
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: you a couple of names, Paul that I think, um

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00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: they would focus on. Calvin Beacham. Can I say Calvin Beacham,

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00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: start right there? That is the type of guy that

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. A guy that is a great locker

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Speaker 1: room leader, a guy that is a dog, a guy

752
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: that is really intelligent, a guy that's um. Okay, he's

753
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: not going to the Pro Bowl, but he certainly is

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00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get you beat. Will Hernandez is another name.

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez to me, Polly, before he got hurt, Will

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00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: Hernandez was the Arizona Cardinal's best offensive lineman. Totally agree.

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00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: So those are the names that I think they're going

758
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: to be looking for, especially since d Jeffreys had such

759
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: an incomplete season. Yes, and you know what, there are

760
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: so many needs. I agree with you. There's not one

761
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: player that's going to put this team over the top

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00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and hence I don't think they'll

763
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: target that big name in free agency. However, I'll throw

764
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: this out there if there is one position I think

765
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Speaker 1: they go after and maybe spend some serious money on

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00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: beyond is Zach Allen and a Byron Murphy center. If

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Speaker 1: there's a free agent young center still in his time

768
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: and are Craig Grilo identified the Brown starting center. Hello,

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00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Drew Petsy new offensive coordinator, the Brown starting center whose

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce he he might be a likely

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: free agent target. Maybe, just maybe. Now that's just all

772
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: of us on the outside looking in, thinking out loud

773
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: here as I would, Polly. Can I interrupt by right

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00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: now because you had me at the Cleveland Browns Center.

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00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: This is an offense that is blending the old and

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00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: the new. This is an offense who does it as

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00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: well as anybody in the National Football League. This is

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00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: an offense that lines up and understands the physicality. I

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00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: love what you just said, Polly about that because the

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00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: possibility of going out in signing these free agents. Can

781
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: I tell you right now, it's going to become the

782
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals DNA. It's gonna become many Assenfort's fingerprint metaphorically speaking,

783
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: it's going to become his fingerprint because the type of

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00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: person they go get, the type of player they go

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00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: get from a team and a scheme, whatever it may be,

786
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna say a lot about what the Arizonal Cardinals

787
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: are going to value and what they're going to try

788
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: to do going forward. Paul, I love that. Remember what

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00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell said a day pass on the pashpod that

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: this system of best player available is about to become

791
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: our quote former system that we're gonna be looking for

792
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: certain types of player with certain types of characteristics. In fact,

793
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: with more on that, here's Jonathan Gannon just on collaborating

794
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: with the new GM monti Astinford on free agency. We're

795
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna lean on his side a lot, and he'll lean

796
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: on our side a lot. But ultimately, it's not about

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00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: who's making decisions. It's about we make the right decisions

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00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And you know, the vision that I

799
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: had of how I wanted to work with a person

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00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: now the coaches, how we're going to work with a

801
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: personnel side vice versa aligns, you know, very much in

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00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: the same. So, you know, just excited about getting that process,

803
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: which we've done, we've you know, started that, and you know,

804
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: we just got to be right on the people that

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00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: we bring in to help our team win. And owner

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00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell also confirmed to Dave Pasha, Yes, Zach Allen

807
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: is a priority. The Cardinals want him back. Zach Allen

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00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: wants to be back, so we'll see that might be

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00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: the first announcement, the first move in this free agency

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00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: process real soon. Yeah, boy, would I be okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Would you be okay with that. Paul zach Allen, I

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00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: think he still has tons of upside. I really do.

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Wolf, we saw every snap of every game,

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00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: how many sacks was this close to getting home? I mean,

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00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: he could have put up phenomenal numbers. And then finally

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00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: the sacks started to come about mid season. But he

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00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: was a problem. He was disruptive all year. Yeah, he was,

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Speaker 1: and I think he learned an awful lot from J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I know he learned an

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00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: awful lot from J. J. Watts. He definitely went out

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00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: and tried to replicate some of the things that J. J.

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00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: Watt would do, including how good he is at defending

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Speaker 1: passes and knocking him down at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: So I think, zach Allen, you're right if there's going

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00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: to be a big name, and I consider that to

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Speaker 1: be a big name, at least with Cardinal fans. Greg

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00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Rosenthal had zach Allen rated number fourteen, the number fourteen

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: rated free agent coming out this year. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: He's top fifteen according to Greg Rosenthal. So yeah, I

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00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: could see that happening. Bolli And by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing Team Zach Allen Zach and his Asian probably a

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00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: pretty good sense of his worth right about now, because

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Speaker 1: that's where all this happens. During the combine, there's a

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00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: lot of conversations and what either side is looking for.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we were looking for the name

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00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: our Jim Mo Monro found at Ethan Posk that is

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00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: a starting center for the Cleveland Browns who might hit

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00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: the free agency market and maybe just maybe dot dot dot.

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Speaker 1: We're just throwing that out there because we saw the

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00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: value of Rodney Hudson the first half of twenty twenty

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00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: one when he had an above average capable center in

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00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: what it did for Kyler Murray. In this Cardinals Offense

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Speaker 1: special thanks to Darren Urban, Jim Amandro, Zach Larson. This

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00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: has been the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

845
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. The combine continues all week. The quarterbacks are

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00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna throw on Saturday. We are Santanford number one. Til

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Speaker 1: you've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: Santanford in Gilbert, are you Santanford State Farm talk to

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Speaker 1: an agent today at eight hundred State Farm and by

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