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Speaker 2: a win last night. Luca had a triple double. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a great performance certainly shooting wise, but fifteen and
Speaker 2: twelve with nineteen points. And what I love to watch
Speaker 2: is Lebron. Lebron is so smart. He'll figure out how
Speaker 2: to make this work. You know, Luca has that capability.
Speaker 2: But Luca's a star. It's going to go through him.
Speaker 2: Lebron knows that. And now it's up to Lebron to
Speaker 2: kind of figure out how does he make Luca better
Speaker 2: and the Lakers better. And so far they've done that.
Speaker 2: But the key really is they're playing defense. One O
Speaker 2: seven to ninety nine in the final and you know
Speaker 2: we wanted to see give them a month, let's see
Speaker 2: how it works. Luca was shocked that he was traded.
Speaker 2: I mean, just factor that into all of this now,
Speaker 2: ingratiating yourself with a new team, and what just happened
Speaker 2: in Dallas, and we still don't have answers to that,
Speaker 2: but Luca and the Lakers beating the MAVs one O
Speaker 2: seven to ninety nine, it will really mean something in
Speaker 2: April when they go to Dallas and hopefully you'll have
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis healthy. Diana turossied retires, certainly on the short
Speaker 2: list of greatest of all time. The Suns and Grizzlies
Speaker 2: combined for two hundred and ninety nine points in overtime
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Speaker 2: in the poll question for the final hour, and then
Speaker 2: we'll head to the combine.
Speaker 3: Yad ed we got up there right now.
Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving's career has been lightly disappointing. Hall of fameish
Speaker 4: both or neither right now, forty two percent of the
Speaker 4: audience have it as both, followed by lightly disappointing Hall
Speaker 4: of Famous has the least amount of votes.
Speaker 2: We started the show talking about the coaches and gms
Speaker 2: at the combine and they're there to answer questions, but
Speaker 2: really not answer the questions. They want to give you
Speaker 2: sort of the feeling that they answered the question. And
Speaker 2: I was watching yesterday and Judy Bautista, the senior national
Speaker 2: columnist and co host of The Insiders on NFL Network,
Speaker 2: did a great job. And she did a great job
Speaker 2: because she kept it really simple. When you would have
Speaker 2: a coach who would talk about what they need to
Speaker 2: do next year, you know, the Bengal Zach Taylor telling everybody, Hey,
Speaker 2: we got to get we can't have a slow start,
Speaker 2: and then you know, we've got to make sure we
Speaker 2: don't do that. And then I think Judy just said
Speaker 2: how And you could just see the look on his face, like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, We're not supposed to ask tough questions
Speaker 2: like that. And I said to Fritzy, reach out to
Speaker 2: Judy because I appreciate that it was a it was
Speaker 2: a right to the point question. Don't let him reload there.
Speaker 2: And I loved it, so thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2: Give us your sort of thought process of how you're
Speaker 2: trying to get something out of people who really don't
Speaker 2: want to give you something.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I really wanted to know the answer myself,
Speaker 5: like because we always talk about like in the case
Speaker 5: of the Bengals slow starts, like, we talk about it
Speaker 5: like I feel like every year. And so I was like,
Speaker 5: how do you like you got to get over this?
Speaker 5: This is what's stopping you from getting there? And so
Speaker 5: I mean, why wouldn't you ask that question, like, well,
Speaker 5: what are you.
Speaker 6: Going to do? His credit, he answered the question right.
Speaker 5: He said, they're looking at all aspects of the off
Speaker 5: season program and changing training camp and everything. So I
Speaker 5: give Zach a lot of credit for actually answering the question.
Speaker 2: Now, you were talking to not only Zach Taylor, Andy Reid,
Speaker 2: Omar Khan, Troy Vincent, Rich McKay for the competition committee.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, the push Push competition committee in
Speaker 2: a moment. But what is the number one overriding question
Speaker 2: aside from tush push at the combine in your opinion?
Speaker 5: Well, aside from the rules stuff, I think, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's just the quarterback musical chairs. What's going to happen
Speaker 5: with Matthew Stafford? What about Aaron Rodgers. You know, what
Speaker 5: are they going to do with Sam Darnold in Minnesota?
Speaker 5: They going to franchise Tag and they got to try
Speaker 5: to sign up. So I think just there's so many
Speaker 5: teams that need quarterbacks. There's just not that many of them.
Speaker 5: Especially there's not that many top, top level ones in
Speaker 5: the draft, So how are all of these veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 5: going to move around? Kirk Cousins is another one that's
Speaker 5: really I think the dominant topic here.
Speaker 2: If I'm a Rams fan, how nervous should I be?
Speaker 5: I think they still want Matthew Stafford. I think the
Speaker 5: question is can they come to an agreement on the money.
Speaker 5: There's no question there is interest in Stafford outside of
Speaker 5: Los Angeles, right, I Mean, there are again so many
Speaker 5: teams that need quarterbacks, so there will be a market
Speaker 5: the Rams. Ideally I would like to keep them, but
Speaker 5: you know the Rams are the Rams and staff are
Speaker 5: like on a on different timelines.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: They have an otherwise very young roster that is ahead
Speaker 5: of schedule. I mean they were ahead of schedule last
Speaker 5: season getting into the playoffs, and they've got this you know, older,
Speaker 5: still very very good and productive quarterback. But they're just
Speaker 5: not aligned on the timeline. I still think he will
Speaker 5: end up staying in Los Angeles, but I feel less
Speaker 5: certain of that than I did, you know a week ago.
Speaker 8: Yeh.
Speaker 2: Because we keep saying, or I hear Annalyst saying, hey,
Speaker 2: a team that's ready to win now needs Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 2: I go, well, the Rams are ready to win now,
Speaker 2: so the Rams should acquire Matthew Stafford like I would pay.
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, it's not my money, but
Speaker 2: two years, one hundred million dollars or whatever, right, can
Speaker 2: you keep it friendly and keep him because you're a
Speaker 2: few plays away from being in the NFC title game
Speaker 2: when you would have hosted the title game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question that the Rams are a better
Speaker 5: team if Matthew Stafford is the quarterback next year, then
Speaker 5: if they have practically anybody else that could conceivably be
Speaker 5: their quarterback next year, if he goes, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: if he goes who's their quarterback next year? Everybody keeps saying, like, well,
Speaker 5: what about Aaron Rodgers. Well, respectfully, I'd rather have Matthew
Speaker 5: Stafford at this point. He's much better and he's been
Speaker 5: more productive recently, so I agree with you if I'm
Speaker 5: the Rams, you're looking for a quarterback like Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5: On the other hand, are they looking at it a
Speaker 5: little bit more long term and saying, you know, the
Speaker 5: capital we could get back if we trade Matthew Stafford
Speaker 5: to you know, the Raiders or the Giants or whatever
Speaker 5: team comes up. Does that help us then fuel the
Speaker 5: pipeline for years and years to come?
Speaker 6: We'll see, you know.
Speaker 2: It's strange when the Colts talked about there's an open
Speaker 2: competition at quarterback, and the first thing I thought of, Judy,
Speaker 2: was Matthew Stafford play half the season, half your games indoors.
Speaker 2: That's a team that won eight games, they've all they've
Speaker 2: taken a chance on Ryan and Philip Rivers before. He's
Speaker 2: a better version of those quarterbacks, it feels like, and
Speaker 2: he might be worth two wins to get you into
Speaker 2: the to the playoffs. I don't know if they've officially
Speaker 2: bailed on Anthony Richardson, but the fact that it's an
Speaker 2: open competition, is it truly an open competition with the Colts, right?
Speaker 5: I That is my question, because who is coming in
Speaker 5: to provide that open competition with Anthony Richardson? They want
Speaker 5: it to work with him. He was their draft pick,
Speaker 5: so they are invested in him. Many people in that
Speaker 5: building are invested in him making it, And so I
Speaker 5: do wonder, you know, when you look out there again,
Speaker 5: who are they going to bring in as the veteran
Speaker 5: they had Joe Flaccoli. Who are they bringing in who
Speaker 5: is a real competitor to Anthony Richardson And keeping in
Speaker 5: mind that ultimately, yes, maybe it's an open competition, but
Speaker 5: what they really want is to spur Anthony Richardson to
Speaker 5: raise his level. So again, who do you bring in
Speaker 5: who can spur Anthony Richardson Teresa's level but not really
Speaker 5: supplanted to Anthony richards In big picture.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Judy Bautista, NFL Network, co host of
Speaker 2: The Insiders on NFL Network. How awkward is the situation
Speaker 2: asking the Ravens about Justin Tucker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to say Eric DeCosta, the general manager,
Speaker 5: said more than I expected. I thought they would defer
Speaker 5: completely to the NFL. You know, there's an NFL investigation,
Speaker 5: so we're not going to say anything. It's an active investigation.
Speaker 5: We're not going to say anything. And for him to
Speaker 5: say the number of allegations is concerning was frankly further
Speaker 5: than I expected him to go. They obviously know that
Speaker 5: those questions are coming, so I don't feel particularly bad
Speaker 5: for them that they're getting questioned about it. It is,
Speaker 5: you know, it's troubling because it just came out of nowhere,
Speaker 5: it feels like, and now it has ballooned. The number
Speaker 5: of allegations just is growing and growing and growing, and
Speaker 5: again the NFL is investigating. And I mean, as a
Speaker 5: football player, he is an all time great, maybe the
Speaker 5: greatest kicker in the game ever, but certainly this has
Speaker 5: cast a pall over the Ravens. It sort of makes
Speaker 5: you go back and think, like when he was struggling
Speaker 5: on the field in the middle of the season, like
Speaker 5: is this why?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: We don't know the answer to that, but you do
Speaker 5: wonder what the Ravens are going to do because he
Speaker 5: was struggling.
Speaker 6: At kicking. Now there's this.
Speaker 5: Does this give them the opening to move on from him?
Speaker 5: Do they stick with him? Do they think that this
Speaker 5: will all be resolved and that that will also resolve
Speaker 5: his struggles on the field. Very interesting, and again I
Speaker 5: thought Eric Depasta went further than I ever expected them
Speaker 5: even just admitting that it's concerning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't justin Tucker from five years ago where
Speaker 2: he was not expendable. He's expendable now. And the fact
Speaker 2: that you know, John Harball said hey, we're looking at
Speaker 2: kickers should tell you everything about this. It got to
Speaker 2: you know, recently where it was uncomfortable, awkward. You're trying
Speaker 2: to ask the Browns about Deshaun Watson. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if that's a topic anymore with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6: It's not really a topic.
Speaker 5: He tours achilles, as you know, and then he retore it,
Speaker 5: you know, in the middle of his rehab process, so
Speaker 5: that essentially we think keeps him out for this season.
Speaker 5: It's not really a topic. They picked very high in
Speaker 5: the draft, number two. They are they need a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Whether they take a quarterback at number two is a
Speaker 5: different question, or get one in free agency. But it's
Speaker 5: impossible to imagine that Deshaun Watson will play again for
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns. And I think a bigger question is, like,
Speaker 5: then what happens, you know, the Browns are even if
Speaker 5: he stays on the roster, if the Browns move on
Speaker 5: from him, who takes him on if anybody.
Speaker 2: Is there a place in the league for Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: as a starter?
Speaker 6: I I think so, and it could still be Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 5: Omar Khan, the general manager, told me yesterday that, you know,
Speaker 5: first of all, they don't have a quarterback under contract
Speaker 5: right now, so everything's on the table for them. They
Speaker 5: got to get one, they got to get two, but
Speaker 5: he said their preference is to have it be one
Speaker 5: of those two guys, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields. And so,
Speaker 5: you know, there was a lot of sentiment for Justin
Speaker 5: Fields coming out of training camp early in the season.
Speaker 5: Even when Mike Tumlin made the switch and it paid
Speaker 5: off initially, you know, and the Steelers really took off
Speaker 5: when they went to Russell Wilson, there was still a
Speaker 5: great deal of sentiment that Justin Fields hasn't yet reached
Speaker 5: his ceiling. So I do think there is a role
Speaker 5: for Russell Wilson somewhere, and it may very well be
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh again.
Speaker 2: All right, competition committee, you're well versed with this of
Speaker 2: what's the process, if you know, the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 2: bring it to the competition committee, I'm guessing to say
Speaker 2: we want to outlaw the Toush push. So what's the
Speaker 2: process now?
Speaker 5: So teams can submit rules proposals and those go before
Speaker 5: the owners. The competition committee can sort of endorse it,
Speaker 5: can put their weight behind it. No pun intended in
Speaker 5: the case of the toushbush, but they know so they
Speaker 5: can sort of say to the owners, yeah, like we
Speaker 5: agree with this, we think you should go. Here's the
Speaker 5: thing about that play. There is no real injury data
Speaker 5: on it, which is a good thing.
Speaker 6: There haven't been injuries.
Speaker 5: It's just not run that often, so there's not a
Speaker 5: wealth of injury data on it. If there were serious
Speaker 5: injuries happening on that play, there's no question the league
Speaker 5: would say we got to get this play out of
Speaker 5: the game, the same way as you've seen other plays
Speaker 5: get removed from the game because of injuries.
Speaker 6: So if quarterbacks were getting blown up every.
Speaker 5: Time they run this play and you know, dislocated shoulders,
Speaker 5: you would certainly see a push.
Speaker 6: From the league to get it out of the game.
Speaker 5: Right now, I think it's sort of more based on
Speaker 5: the possibility that there could be injuries, and there's also
Speaker 5: just people who feel like this doesn't really look like
Speaker 5: a football play. Maybe it looks too much like rugby.
Speaker 5: Why are we letting, you know, the quarterback get pushed
Speaker 5: from behind? We don't really let that happen. So it's
Speaker 5: more sort of based on nebulous stuff rather than like
Speaker 5: hard and fast data. You need twenty four votes from
Speaker 5: ownership to change rules. That is a high bar for everything,
Speaker 5: even things that you think are no brainer. Rules changes
Speaker 5: twenty four votes to get them agree on anything as hard.
Speaker 6: So I think that's a very high bar. I'd be surprised.
Speaker 5: If they ban it. And there's also the sentiment from
Speaker 5: a lot of teams that it's just like, well, stop it,
Speaker 5: Like if you want to end this play, figure out
Speaker 5: how to stop it, and I the darkness in me
Speaker 5: says like, if you want to see this play go away,
Speaker 5: like the first time a quarterback gets really injured on
Speaker 5: that play, that will be the end of that play.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the NFL brought back that you
Speaker 2: could push somebody from behind one in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the impetus was for that.
Speaker 6: Uh, I don't either.
Speaker 5: You're not You're also are not allowed to pull somebody
Speaker 5: right like if running back has stopped you can't grab
Speaker 5: his jersey by the chest and pull them over the
Speaker 5: goal line. Look, I mean the Eagles found found a
Speaker 5: niche in the rules that they could exploit and they're
Speaker 5: outstanding at it. And let's be honest, part of the
Speaker 5: reason that teams want to get rid of it is
Speaker 5: a their defenses can stop it and be their offenses
Speaker 5: are not adept at running it themselves. You know, if
Speaker 5: more teams were good at this, I'd bet you would
Speaker 5: not see more teams calling for it to go. But
Speaker 5: I think when you talk to defensive coaches, a lot
Speaker 5: of them are just like, listen, we got to figure
Speaker 5: out a way to stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Judy, if the Eagles weren't a good team
Speaker 2: and they were the Titans, nobody would care about this play.
Speaker 6: That is correct.
Speaker 5: The fact that it is so effective and that they
Speaker 5: are scoring so many touchdowns on it is why it
Speaker 5: has attracted attention.
Speaker 6: And again, if other teams.
Speaker 5: Could do it as successfully as they do it, I
Speaker 5: don't think you would you know, you'd be hearing this.
Speaker 2: If the Buffalo Bills could run it as successfully, they
Speaker 2: would have played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: And the reason other teams don't do it is because
Speaker 5: they don't practice it the way the Eagles do. First
Speaker 5: of all, the Eagles have unique personnel, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, Jalen Heards squats whatever, he squat six hundred
Speaker 5: pounds something ridiculous, So he is uniquely built to execute this.
Speaker 5: They have linemen who are outstanding, they have a grey
Speaker 5: offensive line, and they practice this, right, I mean, this
Speaker 5: is a play that they run. So you know, if again,
Speaker 5: if other teams were a successful I don't think you
Speaker 5: would hear this, you know, hue and cry about we
Speaker 5: got to get rid of it. And certainly if defenses could,
Speaker 5: we're stopping it.
Speaker 6: Nobody would care.
Speaker 2: If I gave you over under three and a half
Speaker 2: quarterbacks first round, you would take the.
Speaker 5: Probably the under, I guess, which is so low for
Speaker 5: you know, for a draft. But you know, the two
Speaker 5: cam Ward and Schadur Sanders are so when you talk
Speaker 5: to people who know this much better than I do,
Speaker 5: for sure, there's so far ahead. Cam Ward seems to
Speaker 5: be ahead of everybody right now. I don't know how
Speaker 5: many more you're going to get in the first round,
Speaker 5: but again, there are so many teams that are desperate.
Speaker 5: I think we'll probably have a better sense after the
Speaker 5: pro days, when we you know, when we see these
Speaker 5: guys throw to familiar targets and you can really see
Speaker 5: how they are. And certainly after free agency, when we see,
Speaker 5: you know, if the quarterback veteran market gets scrambled, then
Speaker 5: see who's left. But I don't, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: have a great feel about this class beyond those two.
Speaker 2: Is Tom Brady going to be at the combine?
Speaker 5: I have not seen him. He is very from everything
Speaker 5: everybody has said. He's very involved though, in Raiders' decision making,
Speaker 5: which is exactly what Mark Davis said he wanted when
Speaker 5: he brought him on as a minority owner, that he
Speaker 5: wanted him involved in decision making, especially selecting the next quarterback.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if Brady's actually going to be
Speaker 5: able to stands with his binoculars, you.
Speaker 6: Know, watching the bench press.
Speaker 5: I don't know if we're going that far, but certainly
Speaker 5: his voice is loud in that building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I would think the interviewing process, you know,
Speaker 2: being involved in that, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I would bet when they bring in the kids for
Speaker 5: the thirty visits kids, guys, you know that for the
Speaker 5: visits to the building, I would bet that Tom Brady
Speaker 5: will take part in some way in those meetings.
Speaker 2: Do you think Brady will still be the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas this season? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yes, I still. I mean I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm happy he's you know that he's happy in retirement
Speaker 5: and he's doing well. But like you know, if Brady
Speaker 5: put on a uniform right now, would you bet against him?
Speaker 6: I would not.
Speaker 2: I would not. Judy keep asking how and why and
Speaker 2: just simple questions. One word great, but thank you for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: That's a Judy Bautista, senior national columnist, co host of
Speaker 2: The Insiders on NFL Network. And that's just a little
Speaker 2: tip for you, you know, aspiring broadcasters and journalist. Short questions,
Speaker 2: open ended to the point. Take a break. What kind
Speaker 2: of like the I did with that, Todd?
Speaker 1: I went why?
Speaker 2: And I kind of like the long wing type.
Speaker 10: That just says things a lot longer than it needs.
Speaker 9: To be said.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. Well, take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, I got a question. Do you have Do
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Or is it just like it gets fifty five and
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Speaker 2: Well, they have an official opening day.
Speaker 3: But to prep the greens and the fringe.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Dan?
Speaker 8: Good morning man. That was a great interview man, that
Speaker 8: you just had. Really appreciated that one. You know, one
Speaker 8: of the things about being great, though, Dan, there are
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Speaker 2: Debt left. Sure, good, Thank you, sir good. He was
Speaker 2: always one of my favorite players, though he was he
Speaker 2: was a underrated player. Uh yeah, uh uh J and Delaware, Hi,
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Speaker 10: Hey, DP, Dan, it's how you guys there great, just
Speaker 10: foot points. I've been an offensive line defensive line cares
Speaker 10: for the last twenty years. Is my point on the
Speaker 10: tuss push. It's not a competitive play like like you say,
Speaker 10: take the guy out from behind him, then it becomes
Speaker 10: an actual TV sneak. But at this point, right now,
Speaker 10: it's not a QB sneak because nobody's QV sneaking from
Speaker 10: fourth to two, or nobody's sneaking into the end there
Speaker 10: and come two yards out where the Eagles are doing
Speaker 10: that because he'd got Dallas Dotter, AJ Brown and Saint
Speaker 10: Ron Barkley behind there helping him push. So like with
Speaker 10: Tom Brady, every time he did the QV sneak one place,
Speaker 10: he'd go left and next time he did it, he'd
Speaker 10: go right, or he'd go low, or he'd go high.
Speaker 10: He'd always strict the defensive line. To me, that's the
Speaker 10: art of the TV sneak. This right here, to me,
Speaker 10: is not a competitive play.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've said I don't know why they allow
Speaker 2: you to push from behind. So if you change it,
Speaker 2: vote on it, you want to get rid of it, Okay,
Speaker 2: I just suggest you Monti because then it becomes a
Speaker 2: quarterback sneak, and then nobody can argue when the Eagles
Speaker 2: still go forward on fourth and two and get it.
Speaker 2: Damon in Massachusetts, Hey, Damon, see you Donnie in Colorado Springs, Hi, Donnie,
Speaker 2: Good morning Dan.
Speaker 11: How are you today?
Speaker 2: All awesome? Really awesome, awesome.
Speaker 11: Six three brisket smote two oh five.
Speaker 2: So my.
Speaker 11: Opinion on the toush push, So, when you vaults over
Speaker 11: the line during a field goal, or you have a
Speaker 11: teammate lift you up as a fifteen yard unsportsmanlike conduct
Speaker 11: because you're gaining advantage from a teammate, how is the
Speaker 11: toush push any difference you're gaining advantage from a teammate
Speaker 11: pushing you.
Speaker 2: Well, one is lifting and one is pushing. You can't
Speaker 2: lift and you're not allowed to pull, they allow you
Speaker 2: to push. I don't There used to be a rule
Speaker 2: that didn't allow you to do this, and then in
Speaker 2: two thousand and five they allowed this. They changed it
Speaker 2: for some odd reason. I don't understand it. And Judy
Speaker 2: Bautista's covered the NFL for a long long time, didn't
Speaker 2: know why they changed it either. But if you outlaw that,
Speaker 2: then all it is is a quarterback sneak this. This
Speaker 2: is what I don't understand. The NFL likes to complicate things.
Speaker 2: This doesn't need to be complicated. And I keep saying,
Speaker 2: if you give the NFL an out because you have
Speaker 2: injury data, then all of a sudden you're going to go, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need to change this. If a quarterback gets injured
Speaker 2: on this, then do they look at it differently. Chris
Speaker 2: Jones got banged up in the Super Bowl on the
Speaker 2: tush push. Now if you look at his angle that
Speaker 2: he was taking, I could see why he got hurt.
Speaker 2: So the guy who probably is more susceptible to getting
Speaker 2: hurt the center on the offensive team. So factor that
Speaker 2: in if we want to protect players the team that
Speaker 2: is doing this, the Eagles doing this. They put their
Speaker 2: center at risk every single time they do this, and
Speaker 2: they're willing to do that. I don't know if the NFL,
Speaker 2: and Judy even said, and she keeps a close eye
Speaker 2: on the Competition Committee, she doesn't think they're going to
Speaker 2: change anything. And I agree. They're a super Bowl champion
Speaker 2: and therefore there seems like they're getting away with something,
Speaker 2: but they're not. Any other team can do this. Imagine
Speaker 2: that you want to take something out of the game.
Speaker 2: It's like I mentioned this yesterday. Leu Al Sindor was
Speaker 2: so great in college. They outlawed the dunk because of
Speaker 2: one player. So that's when you really penalize a team.
Speaker 2: That's when you're going out of your way to penalize
Speaker 2: a player or a team. I don't think that's in
Speaker 2: the spirit of competition. If you want to modify something great,
Speaker 2: But to say you're too good at this, even though
Speaker 2: I can still do that, that's not fair.
Speaker 3: But the NFL is known for closing loopholes that teams
Speaker 3: take advantage of. A Couple of years ago, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: there was this new motion. Remember the Dolphins with that
Speaker 3: jet sweeps yea, and as soon as everyone started picking
Speaker 3: up on it. They closed it, and they changed it
Speaker 3: mid season.
Speaker 2: It wasn't did they really?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They there was another rule. Remember the Patriots and the
Speaker 3: Titans with Rabel. There's something about running down the clock,
Speaker 3: and they found a way to run down the clock.
Speaker 3: It was like an exception the rule Belichick started then. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly how they did it. They closed
Speaker 3: that during the season. They don't like when teams push loopholes,
Speaker 3: and this is a targeted team though with the Eagles,
Speaker 3: I still lean towards they're going to adjust this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know that people look at it and
Speaker 2: they get bothered by I mean the number of phone
Speaker 2: calls that we've gotten this morning about this, because everybody
Speaker 2: has an opinion on it. And if it's not your team,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no Eagles fan who's going to say,
Speaker 2: you know what, for the spirit of competition, we should
Speaker 2: take this out and they shouldn't. It's you know, it's
Speaker 2: like baseball, you decide where you want your home run fence.
Speaker 2: You decide. I mean, it's weird, like what other sport
Speaker 2: do you go? You know, we'd like to have left
Speaker 2: field at three twenty seven it'd be like an NFL
Speaker 2: team saying, when we have the ball, the end zone
Speaker 2: is bigger. You know, they're going to be the Canadian
Speaker 2: Football League. So they're not doing anything illegal. They're not
Speaker 2: doing anything that's weird, you know, Like I imagine an
Speaker 2: NBA that your court is wider than everybody else's court,
Speaker 2: or you decide the three point line is different than
Speaker 2: everybody else. I mean, that's essentially what you have with baseball.
Speaker 2: You decide what's best for your team. The Eagles didn't
Speaker 2: do anything that's that you can't do. You just can't
Speaker 2: do as well. Let's try Damon in Massachusetts again. Is
Speaker 2: Damon there?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 2: Hello, DP, Hey Damon?
Speaker 9: How you doing? Actually, first time?
Speaker 2: Long time?
Speaker 9: It's actually pronounced demand.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, demand demand.
Speaker 9: So with all the celebration of Diana Tarazzi and her
Speaker 9: dominating over college in several leagues, I saw a stat
Speaker 9: that you may not know. So let's go around the room.
Speaker 9: Who is the only person to lead the NCAA, the
Speaker 9: ABA and the.
Speaker 2: NBA in scoring? Rick Berry?
Speaker 9: Oh, I knew you were going to get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Rick Barry, Yeah, I think the Oakland Oaks.
Speaker 2: Then he went to college at Miami and then you
Speaker 2: know Golden State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny to start the call with being like,
Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to know this, and then
Speaker 4: when you do, go, I.
Speaker 2: Knew you were going to know it. I knew it.
Speaker 2: I think this one might catch you. I knew you'd
Speaker 2: get it. Rick Barry is an underrated player, like if
Speaker 2: his his stats were crazy. And if you look at
Speaker 2: that seventies Golden State team that won the title, and
Speaker 2: they really didn't have much talent there and Rick Barry
Speaker 2: led them to an NBA title, I mean he had.
Speaker 2: That's where it's really the sum of the parts that
Speaker 2: when you when you look at it, there's certain teams
Speaker 2: when you go they were just a great team team.
Speaker 2: And there have been a few of those down through
Speaker 2: history where you know, like the Dodgers in eighty eight
Speaker 2: when they won, that was really the sum of the parts.
Speaker 2: It wasn't they had oral and really that's about it.
Speaker 2: They had hrsh But that's when you have magic. That's
Speaker 2: when you go, there's something else here at play. And
Speaker 2: that Golden State team they had, you know, gosh, they
Speaker 2: had really no stars.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. I have the roster. I'll bet you
Speaker 3: can go.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can.
Speaker 3: I'll bet you can get four.
Speaker 2: Derek Dickey is.
Speaker 4: On that team.
Speaker 2: You go, and there's a Johnson, Yeah, George Jo Johnson,
Speaker 2: big man there was? Was Rick Barry was on the team.
Speaker 2: Was Nate Thurman on the team?
Speaker 7: He was not.
Speaker 3: There are two Johnson so we're gonna give you two
Speaker 3: points there, Charles and George George?
Speaker 2: Okay, Charles was a guard. Was Keith Wilkes on that team?
Speaker 2: That's right, Silk Wilkes. Okay? Who else was on that team?
Speaker 3: They had a point guard and a center that were
Speaker 3: their second and third leading scores or second and fourth things.
Speaker 2: It's gonna drive me crazy. I keep seeing Nate Thurmon,
Speaker 2: but it's.
Speaker 3: Uh starts with a C. The first name Cliff, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: the point guard first name, last name start with the
Speaker 3: same letter. Okay, you're gonna grind.
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give it to you.
Speaker 2: Butcher Beard Oh okay, nice player, yeah, out of Louisville.
Speaker 2: Butcher Beard. Dang yeah, Rick Berry, Rick Barry was, You
Speaker 2: had to deal with him. He was good.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Doug and Syracuse, Hi, Doug, what's on your mind? Clifford
Speaker 2: Ray God. I kept thinking Nate Thurman.
Speaker 12: And everyone's talking about Shadeer and cam Ward. What about
Speaker 12: Kyle McCord. He beat cam Ward one on one and
Speaker 12: nobody's talking about him at all the draft.
Speaker 2: Well, you can beat a quarterback, but it's your team
Speaker 2: beating that team. I mean, let's be fair, we're not
Speaker 2: playing one on one. You know, Kyle I think got
Speaker 2: a bad rap because of what happened at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: And then he goes to Syracuse and had a really
Speaker 2: good season, really good season, and he might be a
Speaker 2: Day two pick until I get information from my source,
Speaker 2: then I can give you an opinion that would be
Speaker 2: vetted as opposed to me just saying the eye test
Speaker 2: because I don't I don't know my job is. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not qualified to do it. That may sound strange
Speaker 2: that somebody who's hosting a show is not qualified to
Speaker 2: give you an opinion on somebody. I'll give you opinions,
Speaker 2: but I do like to talk to people who it's
Speaker 2: their job to assess an opinion on somebody. I don't
Speaker 2: know how good cam Ward is, Like I watched him,
Speaker 2: and I've said this before. I watched Patrick Mahomes play.
Speaker 2: I had no idea that he would be anywhere near this.
Speaker 2: I was just fascinated by him. I just was entertained.
Speaker 2: But I kept saying, well, it's Big twelve football, you know,
Speaker 2: final score forty five to forty one. But if anybody said, well,
Speaker 2: I knew now. I thought Deshaun Watson was going to
Speaker 2: be great, and he kind of started out that way.
Speaker 2: There are times when I knew nothing about Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 2: other than he went to Miami of Ohio and it
Speaker 2: seemed like the biggest guy on the team was playing quarterback,
Speaker 2: and I thought maybe they make him a tight end,
Speaker 2: which Ohio State was recruiting him to be a tight end,
Speaker 2: so I didn't know. I thought Michael Vick would change
Speaker 2: the sport. Yeah, pulling, and.
Speaker 3: It goes like you said the other way. I thought
Speaker 3: Byron Leftwich was built for the NFL and would go
Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame after his first year. I
Speaker 3: was like, this guy is a great passer and he
Speaker 3: became a decent quarterback in a decent career.
Speaker 2: And you're just Air McNair. I. I just remember there
Speaker 2: was a curiosity and then you realize that's the guy
Speaker 2: you want as your quarterback, So you have no idea
Speaker 2: with this Johnny Manziel, like I didn't. I didn't know
Speaker 2: enough about Manziel behind the scenes other than people would
Speaker 2: kind of whisper and say, you know, the party guy,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, all right. You know, it's like when
Speaker 2: your kids are looking at schools and somebody will go, hey,
Speaker 2: what about that MAT's party school. Every school we looked
Speaker 2: at was a party school, so I thought, hey, Manziel,
Speaker 2: he's a party guy. Well, if they have told me
Speaker 2: really to the depths of being a partier, then I
Speaker 2: would have been you know, I don't know. And then
Speaker 2: I realized just how great Mike Evans. Mike Evans got
Speaker 2: so much better in my eyes when I saw that
Speaker 2: Manziel couldn't play in the NFL and Mike Evans is
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, a Hall of Famer, you know,
Speaker 2: whenever John Johnny would be like the throw it up
Speaker 2: and Mike Evans would somehow grab it and be like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: did you see Manziel be like, uh, I think I
Speaker 2: think Mike may have saved him there. All right, more
Speaker 2: phone calls coming up. We'll talk to Sonny VC. Carol
Speaker 2: coming up. Tomorrow. Sonny is famous for well a lot
Speaker 2: of things, but he has written a new book and
Speaker 2: it talks about his role in signing Michael Jordan at Nike,
Speaker 2: Kobe at Adidas, how he had Lebron and the company
Speaker 2: he was working for, Adidas let him down, his petty
Speaker 2: relationship or his relationship with a very petty Phil Knight
Speaker 2: at Nike. At Nike, he started paying all these college coaches,
Speaker 2: giving him money, giving him shoes, and you could probably
Speaker 2: make a case. You could make a case he should
Speaker 2: be in the Basketball Hall of Fame as a contributor. So,
Speaker 2: Sonny Vic Carol will join us on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I believe Woody Harrelson will join us on Friday. On Friday,
Speaker 2: all right, so take a break back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine eastern six am Pacific on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Try to sneak in a few phone calls. What we
Speaker 2: learned the stay in sports history. Let me see, Oh
Speaker 2: Seaton brought this up I think last hour where we
Speaker 2: heard from Aaron Glenn. He's the new head coach of
Speaker 2: the Jets, and this is sort of the tone that
Speaker 2: he has, the bravado when he goes to the microphone
Speaker 2: that things are changing with the Jets.
Speaker 13: I understand the reaction of the players, but I will
Speaker 13: say this, Every decision that man moves make is to
Speaker 13: win and to win now, so I understand it. But again, listen,
Speaker 13: that's not gonna be the last decision I made, right.
Speaker 13: That's not that it's gonna upset some people, and that's okay, right,
Speaker 13: But as men, we talk about it, we make sure
Speaker 13: we keep it in the house that we're going to
Speaker 13: continue to do.
Speaker 2: And then Seton said he would take a pie of
Speaker 2: the face, that he would take a ball to the
Speaker 2: balls if Robert Salah when he was sworn in as
Speaker 2: the Jets head coach, didn't sound or have a similar message.
Speaker 2: So we went back and found when Robert Sala was
Speaker 2: introduced as the Jets head coach.
Speaker 14: To our organization, get used to the mantra all gas
Speaker 14: no break. When we talk about all gas no break,
Speaker 14: we're not talking about effort on the field. We're talking
Speaker 14: about the process at which we do thing do things.
Speaker 14: We're talking about the way we prepare, the way we
Speaker 14: wake up every single morning, the way we rehab, the
Speaker 14: way we communicate, the way we speak to one another.
Speaker 14: Cannot tell you enough about how excited I am to
Speaker 14: work with this entire Jets organization and understanding that when
Speaker 14: we wake up in the morning, we will all from
Speaker 14: top down, step on the pedal and find a way
Speaker 14: to get somewhat better than we were when we woke up.
Speaker 14: But understanding that the all gas, okay, all gas.
Speaker 2: No break, Maybe not as fiery as Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 4: Well, that's you know that is that's about ninety seconds
Speaker 4: of a ninety minute introduct to a press conference.
Speaker 3: Literally no breaks.
Speaker 2: And he's also reading off of a teleprompter.
Speaker 4: There he was, he was, Yeah, he's reading off of
Speaker 4: a teleprompt week because they or he's incredibly good at
Speaker 4: looking the camera just right down the barrel. I can't
Speaker 4: believe they'd have a teleprompter for a coach. I'm quite
Speaker 4: sure if you look at the beginning of it, they
Speaker 4: all they each of the three people up on the
Speaker 4: days read a prepared statement, but none of them are
Speaker 4: looking at the paper. They're all looking straight out fumble
Speaker 4: their words a little bit. I think that's part of
Speaker 4: the prepared statement part.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a football team. Okay, we're here to
Speaker 2: play football, but you can't script it. I think he
Speaker 2: kind of care.
Speaker 4: The whole game is scripted really well, if you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Oh yeah, that's right, just like this show.
Speaker 2: It's scripted. Can you imagine new Rockney going, wait minute,
Speaker 2: let me see what are my words here? Are gonna win?
Speaker 2: We're gonna win, We're gonna he tried again three two?
Speaker 2: What we're gonna win?
Speaker 8: When?
Speaker 10: When?
Speaker 2: When win? By the way, overrated speech? What Newte Rockney?
Speaker 4: What the heck?
Speaker 3: Dead guy speech?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But oh he just said we're gonna win, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna win, win when win? That's it. It's like Lincoln
Speaker 2: four score was you know? How was that like a
Speaker 2: three minute speech? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean less is more?
Speaker 9: You like that?
Speaker 2: I do? Less is more?
Speaker 3: But not to day was favored by fourteen and a
Speaker 3: half in that game. It's not like winning for the
Speaker 3: giver was there were the underdogs.
Speaker 2: Yes, it also helps when your name is Newt Rockney
Speaker 2: as opposed to it.
Speaker 3: And here's what Steve Rogers had to say to the team.
Speaker 3: New Deaths sound tough, canute to Rockney, Yes, I went
Speaker 3: back and listened to Aaron Glenn's press converce. Compared to
Speaker 3: Aaron sa to Salah, Aaron Glenn does a lot of
Speaker 3: all heart. He didn't say all you know, no breaks,
Speaker 3: but he gives a lot of disfranchises about you know,
Speaker 3: working and putting in the works.
Speaker 2: Very similar tone you We're gonna work barn work, yes.
Speaker 1: But as a new head coach, you need a motto
Speaker 1: keep pounding, never stop, don't stop believing.
Speaker 2: Living on a prayer.
Speaker 3: Where eighty songs hungry hearts.
Speaker 2: That would be great if you had a press conference
Speaker 2: where the coach was just throwing in subtle lines from
Speaker 2: the song.
Speaker 3: You Gi have an eye. It's like it's I have
Speaker 3: a tiger.
Speaker 9: Oh, this is gonna be a thriller night Sunday, bloody Sunday.
Speaker 9: Let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm hungry like the wolf, but see nothing going.
Speaker 10: To break our stride.
Speaker 4: It's nice bet this day in sports history, gonna break
Speaker 4: up my stride, breaking my stride.
Speaker 3: Last night I had the strangest scream everyone, I gotta
Speaker 3: sell you. Nineteen thirty five, the New York Yankees released.
Speaker 2: Babe Roam over Rated.
Speaker 3: He signed with the Boston Brace for twenty grand and
Speaker 3: a share of the team's profits.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty five, Julius Irving of the seventy six ers
Speaker 3: became third on the NBA's all time scoring list. Underrated
Speaker 3: underrated Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: On this date in nineteen sixty seven, this driver is
Speaker 2: the only one born outside of the United States to
Speaker 2: have ever won the Daytona five hundred nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: If you said Mario Andretti, you would be correct. How
Speaker 2: about that? Correct? Amundo? Uh sorry, I can't sneak in
Speaker 2: more phone calls, but thank you for the calls today,
Speaker 2: the emails, the tweets, the all around support. Let's go
Speaker 2: around the room see if we learned anything on the program.
Speaker 2: Toddle'll start with you.
Speaker 9: When you say you have no plans or invent just
Speaker 9: to trade a player, that means you're open for business
Speaker 9: and willing to consider a deal.
Speaker 2: Uh seatan, how about you?
Speaker 4: No further word on the bush tush pushush push push.
Speaker 2: At least I got that right when I'm talking to
Speaker 2: Judy Bautista. You know that push tush. I don't know
Speaker 2: you think they're gonna outlaw that? Uh Marvin all gain
Speaker 2: no breaks? Yeah to the death, yeah yeah, orun til
Speaker 2: I get fired, Paul.
Speaker 3: We'd like to thank Nick Chubb for everything he's done
Speaker 3: for this pile.
Speaker 2: Yes, but he won't be with us next season. Todd,
Speaker 2: what did I learn.
Speaker 9: With the cult saying it's an open competition at QB
Speaker 9: You immediately thought of Matthew Stafford Rapp.
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