1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called me Ben. 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis codenamed Doc 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: to know. There is so much stuff happening in the world. 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember when which episode is coming out, but 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: there were several other trained derailments quite recently and they 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: did not make the news, So we're keeping an eye 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: on that. There's a mystery fleet that's expanding across the globe, 14 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: legally moving Russian oil. Warhawks are saying Iran is twelve 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: days away from making material for a nuclear bomb, if 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: so they choose, And we're not talking about any of 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: that this time. We are exploring. We're exploring some strange 18 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: stories that also, like so many other things, occur below 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: the fold and need more attention. There is hope for 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: combating asteroids in outer space. This is true. The President 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of Mexico turns out to be kind of a fan 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: of cryptids. And before we get to any of that, 23 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: it turns out that the US Marshall Service got hacked. 24 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Now you might say, I'm not a US marshal, that 25 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me, but maybe wait, wait for a second. 26 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: This is where you found this one met Yeah, yeah, 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and we're talking about in just a second. I think 28 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: it's important. And we mentioned a couple of things about 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: the train derailments before we jump into this, because we 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: saw we saw in Florida an example of what happens 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: when a train full of in this case propane, extremely 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: flammable materials derails, and it's really dangerous. It's a very 33 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: very dangerous situation. But we've seen the reaction to it, 34 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: in the response to it in the way that we 35 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: have mentioned and maybe hoped to have seen in East Palestine, 36 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: because that train, the materials were siphoned out of the 37 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: derailed train and they were removed out of there. The 38 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: train was either removed or put back on the tracks, 39 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: the depending on which ones you're talking about, like individual 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: rail cars, and everybody was safe. No huge fires, no 41 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: huge explosions, anything like that It's a little different in 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: East Palestine because there was fire right already involved in 43 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the situation. But they carefully removed the materials. I mean 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: they removed a lot of them. Well, there was no lead, 45 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: there was no propanelea, at least Florida. I thought you 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: were talking about East Palestine. Okay, No, No, in East Palestine. Debacle, 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: horrible situation in Florida. Good job, guys. Then the thing 48 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: in Grease where where dozens of people were killed because 49 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: a passenger train and a freight train were on the 50 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: same dang track and just ran smack dab into each other, 51 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: which is pretty horrifying. Hey, I just wanted to bring 52 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: those two things up. It's worth your time to at 53 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: least look at them, see what happens, and learn a 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: little bit more, maybe on your own, just about how 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: frequent this stuff occurs. Derailments were so frequent, almost two 56 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: thousand a year in the US alone, and across the 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: world numbers much higher. Also in retrospect, I was pretty 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: lucky not to get detained, slash arrested when I got 59 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: that wild hair. But but yeah, in other countries they 60 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: are far less reticent about about taking reporters out and 61 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: making them, making them not past go and not collect 62 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars or whatever. But be safe out there. 63 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: And one of the big things to remember is that 64 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: in many of these situations, the people who are actually 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: running the rails, people are running the trains, They are 66 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: not the problem. They are not the issue. And we 67 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: hope that if you haven't listened to our episode East 68 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Palestine and Beyond, you do tune in and please let 69 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: us know. As we said, they're more about the attacks 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: on infrastructure that are occurring on a regular basis and 71 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: are often somewhat ignored by the news, and ask yourself 72 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: why they get ignored. And infrastructure, Matt, as we'll see, 73 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: is is not limited to physical things. I think we 74 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: could say it's fair to say right that nowadays intangible 75 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: infrastructure is just as vital. Right we're talking about records 76 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: stored in the cloud, We're talking about the Internet. This 77 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: is as vital a piece of modern infrastructure as as 78 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: a waterway would have been in times of old, and 79 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: sadly just as vulnerable. Oh yes, especially individual servers. So 80 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: like an individual system that is somewhat separated from the 81 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: larger infrastructure network of an organization, so that's what we're 82 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: talking about today, kind of a separated system or computer 83 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: system within the US Marshals Service. So the first thing 84 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you may ask yourself is US Marshals. That sounds really familiar, 85 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: But what is that? I'm gonna give you the mission 86 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: statement according to a a movie, literally a movie called US Marshals. 87 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: I think Emmy Lee Jones, Well, they sounded like I 88 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: think it's either a sequel or I think it's obsequel 89 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to the fugitive because it was the US Marshals that 90 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: were chasing that that old fugitive. Are support that scamp? Oh? Yes, 91 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: So watch the movie and this is their mission statement. 92 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: The mission of the US Marshal Service is to enforce 93 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: federal laws and provide support to virtually all elements of 94 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: the federal justice system by providing for the security of 95 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: federal court facilities and the safety of judges and other 96 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: court personnel, apprehending criminals, exercising custody of federal prisoners, and 97 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: providing for their security and transportation to correctional facilities. There's 98 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: a little more almost done, executing federal court orders, seizing 99 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: assets gained by illegal means, and providing for the custody 100 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: management and disposal of forfeited assets and assuring the safety 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: of endangered government witnesses and their families wit SEC. Also, 102 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: I love the idea. Something about this story made me 103 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: go into a brief rabbit hole. Man, I was licking 104 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: up the YouTube clips of like reporters and law enforcement 105 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: figures the world the world around who have confiscated usually 106 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: big amounts of cannabis and their solution is to burn 107 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: it in a bonfire. Yeah, breaths are always a man. Yes, 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: But which SEC? You know, we should also we're talking 109 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: about this briefly off air, we should also do an 110 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: actual episode on which SEC on Witness Security or you know, 111 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: most people know it as the Witness Protection Program. It's 112 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: a very real thing, uh, and some of the people 113 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: involved in it might be listening to the show today. 114 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: We promise we won't say your other name. Also, I 115 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned transporting prisoners and any one of us 116 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: have possibly been on a flight where there's you know, 117 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: an air marshal um, you know, present member of it's 118 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: a special designation, but that's a member of the US 119 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Marshals Service, right. It's good that they're there, um, And 120 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, the idea is to blend in like a 121 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: plain clothes, but you can tell if you if you 122 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: know they to look for, you could tell. You know, 123 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: it's like an agent provocateur at a at a protest, 124 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: You're like, huh, those are general issue boots, you know. Yeah, 125 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: So next time you're boarding a plane and you're walking 126 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: down the aisle, if you're in one of those last groups, 127 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: just keep your eyes out and make sure to find 128 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: them and then give them a good wink, maybe a 129 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: little touch of the nose. It'll just walk by it 130 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: under your breath. Go nice. I'm joking. Don't go for 131 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: the gun. That was a dumb, dumb joke. Do not 132 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: quote me on that. Do not take that out of 133 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: context the internet. Don't do any of the things we 134 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: just said. We're completely joking. We're being silly. Uh, okay. 135 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: So that's what marshals are. That's what they do. Um. 136 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: They're very, very important to the justice system, and they 137 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: are the I think guys, correct me if I'm wrong here. 138 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I believe the US Marshals are the oldest law enforcement 139 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: organization within the US. Isn't it That may or may 140 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: not be true like federal organization. Yeah, you think about 141 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Marshals in terms of the Old West. They always call 142 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: them Marshall though I wonder if that's got anything to 143 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: do with them. Yeah, they go back to the seventeen hundreds, 144 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: like shortly after the foundation of the country. Oh yes, 145 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: So what happened. They were the targets of a ransomware attack. 146 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: So this is an attack where the word hackers comes up. 147 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Hackers some people who are very good at using computer 148 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: programs to infiltrate other networks. They targeted, probably targeted the 149 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: US Marshall Service. And we just have to breed from 150 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: one of these articles. You can find basically a four 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: to six paragraph right up on this in every major 152 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: news outlet, but it has the same information. I highly 153 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: recommend heading over to NPR dot org and reading Jenna 154 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: McLaughlin's article titled hackers steal sensitive law enforcement data in 155 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: a breach of the US Marshals Service because this article 156 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: has a little more breadth than a lot of the 157 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: other reporting. So we're going to read a little bit 158 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: of this just so we get an understanding. The US 159 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: Marshals Service revealed it was the victim of one of 160 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: these cyber attacks last week. This is published on the 161 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: twenty eighth of February. By the way, according to a 162 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: spokesperson of the US Marshals, it was a major incident 163 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: which impacted a standalone computer system that contained records about 164 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: targets of ongoing investigations and employee personal data, as well 165 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: as internal processes of the US Marshal Service. That's not good. Well, 166 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: one thing we've learned over the years here, what is 167 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: one of the major things the CIA protects of their 168 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: operations their processes. Yeah, it's the methods used, the methods 169 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: which according to this reporting and all the other reporting, 170 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: we don't know if that's that's essentially what was captured there, right, 171 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: What are the procedures to get things done, to make 172 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: things happen? Was it just information about employees? Was it? 173 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, what do those internal processes mean? Basically? But 174 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: also just records on targets of ongoing investigations. If that 175 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: information gets into the wrong hands, people who are currently 176 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: under federal investigation could know about it, and that would 177 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: be really bad. Yeah, because you want to keep that 178 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: you want to keep that information hidden until you have 179 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: something solid. I would imagine not to mention the identity 180 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: of all those air marshals we're talking about, Yeah, that'll 181 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: undercover or the marshals who are let's say, keeping watch 182 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: over people in the Witness Protection program, right, So if 183 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: you can, if you can locate the marshals, then and 184 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: you can triangulate maybe like it's a little scary and 185 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: it's probably really scary actually for people who are involved 186 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: in that program. Here is the next thing which is 187 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: important though. According to that same spokesperson from the Marshal Service, 188 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: the system that was breached did not include personal details 189 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: about people in wit SEC, so in the federal Witness 190 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Protection Program. M Yeah, from my understanding, Matt, this included, 191 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: like you said, personally identifiable information to subjects of investigation 192 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and to some employees. But then there's the nebulous third 193 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: parties clause. They also got something on third parties. And 194 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder what a lot of people don't 195 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: understand when they're script kitties, which is a derogatory term 196 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: in the in the hacking community. When they're script kitties 197 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 1: and they're just like cutting and pasting code or exploits, 198 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of them are aware that 199 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: some of these systems are designed to bite back so 200 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: that such that you might feel you have successfully infiltrated something, 201 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: but now it's that system has learned more about you 202 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: and identified you. So it seems pretty ballsy to go 203 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: against the Marshall's system. And that makes me wonder would 204 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: this be like a foreign power? Would it be organized crime? 205 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, do we know anything about the possible perpetrator 206 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: right now? We know nothing. We know that government agencies 207 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: like this and especially you know, intelligence agencies are ripe 208 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: targets for foreign actors, right these are pretty nice targets 209 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: for them, and it is a ransomware attack, but we 210 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of details about what actually happened. 211 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: Like we've seen here that information was being siphoned off 212 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: of that server at the Marshall Service, and then we 213 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know if the com was locked, if all the 214 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: files were just encrypted within that server, don't We don't 215 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: know a bunch of specifics, and they're not giving a 216 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: bunch of specifics to be honest. At least, this was 217 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: basically something that was put out to Reuter's, NBC News 218 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: ran with it, and everybody else picked up on it. 219 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: It's literally not known if a ransom was demanded, right 220 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: we're calling it ransomware, because it appears to have the 221 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: same types of things happening that a ransomware attack would, 222 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: and do we know much about potential next steps that 223 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: the US marshals have maybe communicated it. It feels to 224 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: me like a lot of the aftermath of this is 225 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: not going to be public for a minute, right, No, 226 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: it's a forensic investigation, right, like computer forensics investigation. That's 227 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: going to be complicated and probably take a while. The 228 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: biggest thing is securing other parts of the network that 229 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: weren't connected but are similar. Right. If you imagine somebody 230 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: got in, somebody broke into a cottage that's on some 231 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: big property, right, but the cottage is a little further away. 232 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: It's isolated and separated from the main house or whatever 233 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: it is. If you're really bougie like that. People they 234 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: broke into that cottage, they got accessed everything in there. 235 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: It's still on the property, but it's not connected, So 236 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: we got to make sure the main house is secure. 237 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: I think that's probably what's happening right now. I mean 238 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: that's better than the alternative, right, which is, you know, 239 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: the worst gay scenario for the protective side the subject 240 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: of the hack, the worst gay scenario is to not 241 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: know that a hack has occurred while someone has keys 242 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: to your house. Yes, so they know that part. They 243 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: know that someone got in. They're not saying publicly who 244 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: it was, but they are. They're probably going to have 245 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: to reevaluate or even escal a lot of operations at 246 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: this point because you could sell that data. Oh, I 247 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: can't believe. I didn't think about that until just now 248 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: to the highest bidder. I mean, it's essentially like it's 249 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: government secrets. That's what it is like in Maddie. Both ends, 250 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: we come to deal with immense respect and a little 251 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: tip about friends in the Marshall's Service. You might want 252 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on those on those trucks selling 253 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: lose cigarettes. I don't know why that's like. I've got 254 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: a hypothetical for us before we leave. What if you 255 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: wanted to capture people who were enemies of the Marshal Service, 256 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: If you wanted to capture people in a net who 257 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: wanted to do harm to people in the Witness Protection program, 258 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: what if you put out a story about a bunch 259 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: of information being taken from your own servers. Right, we 260 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: have all this information. It was it was stolen. It's 261 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: all this valuable stuff, and then you go on the 262 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: dark web and you set a trap honeypot, and you 263 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: and you say, hey, we're selling this information, and you 264 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: see who bites. And from that, from that point forward, 265 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: you actually use it against people. It could be counterintelligence. 266 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you could use it and not even 267 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: like snag them right away, you know, just use it 268 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: to keep tabs, give them some false info maybe info. 269 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't think that's actually what's happening here. 270 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: That feels too complicated. But it's a fun idea, a 271 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: fun idea, it's a good idea. Can I just add 272 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: before we we this, I was just thinking about hackers. 273 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I was just going down a rabbit hole of like 274 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: silly hacker names, and I found a giant list. I 275 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to read some of my favorites. We've got 276 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: let's see Capslock Holmes, Babe Root, We've got Baby Underscore, 277 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: got dot back, this is a file structure joke. And 278 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: then we've got Barista, Creepshot, Barren snow Crasher, Bash Cassidy 279 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: and Beyonce Nuls. I don't know if any of these 280 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: are real, but they're fun. They are very fun. So 281 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: right now, we're gonna take a break, but we'll be 282 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: right back and hear more about this weird picture that 283 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: a really important person posted. Oh come on, come on, 284 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: it's proof, all right, whatever adds? Okay, So imagine this. 285 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: I want to set the stage here, folks. Let's say 286 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: you live in the United States and you know that 287 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: these are very divided times, and everybody has a Twitter account, 288 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: And one day President Biden came onto Twitter and said, hey, guys, 289 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot going on. Hang on, let 290 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: me put my glasses on for a Biden impression. I 291 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: know there's a lot going on these days, but has 292 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: anybody seen this picture of the chooper cup? Just look 293 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: at it. Everything is magical. That's exactly what happened not 294 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: too long ago in Mexico. Current Mexican President andre's Manuel 295 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: Lopez Obrador tweeted the followed and I would like to 296 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: share this tweet. I'd like to read this to you all. 297 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: He tweeted two photos and one one is a picture 298 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: of some ruins and that's totally in line, like these 299 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: are ancient Mayan ruins. And the other photo on the left. 300 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen this yet 301 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: it appears to be a creature of some arboreal bent 302 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: who is kind of hustled up, clinging to the trunk 303 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: of a tree, kind of high up in the tree, 304 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: and said, our boreal ent bent. Oh okay, sorry, isn't 305 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: an end like a type of Tolkien universe? Yeah? So 306 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: that I heard our boreal and that's what made my 307 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: brain go to that. But sorry, please cons totally so 308 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: the this creature, if we're being honest, I just wanted 309 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: to use the word ar boreal. This this creature looks 310 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: like it has a little bit of a hood and 311 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: it has two dark, beady eyes. Let me let me 312 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: share a picture here. I want to see if we 313 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: can get a good look at this together. Okay, so 314 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: I've shared the picture with us. Have you guys seen 315 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: this photo before you send it to our group? Text threatened? 316 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: That's right. It looked like one of those kind of 317 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, what do you call a ring camera kind 318 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: of creepy pasta kind of deals um, a little bit 319 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: of the old night vision vibes um, but a little 320 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: more palpably something than most of those, wouldn't you say? Yeah, 321 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: it reminds me, you know, those little guys in the 322 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Star Wars universe. Jawa's yeah, Jawa's just so. It looks 323 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: like a Jawa that got up a tree. Get that. 324 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Get that fella down from there. Call the fire department. 325 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: Has your Jawa been stuck in a tree? Call us 326 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: one eight three three std WYTK where we're getting. You know, 327 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: it's tough economic times, so we're doing Jawa removal in 328 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: addition to podcasts. Now, those guys are fierce, they're vicious. 329 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: They'll be in here with one of those spear staff 330 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Shelailey things they carry. Leave it to the professionals. Folks, 331 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: we're here for you, and we're here for the President 332 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: of Mexico. In this respect, he's okay. This tweet went viral. 333 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: Most people thought he was joking, but he seems to 334 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: genuinely believe that he is sharing a photo that was 335 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: taken a few days before he posted. It's it's from 336 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: an engineer, and he says it appears to be an 337 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: alu or almost like a duende, a mischievous woodland elf 338 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: like spirit in Maya folklore. What is it? Call ben? Sorry, 339 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: I didn't hear aluche o hard my pronunciation a lu 340 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: x or a luxe and this this is like the 341 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of spirit you see present in so many other 342 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: types of folklore across the world, you know, like there's 343 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: the story of the Brownie in parts of Europe, there's 344 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: the idea of the hidden folk. All kinds of spirits 345 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: right populate belief systems of the world in ancient times 346 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: to today. But we did not know, mister President, that 347 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: you were a cryptozoologist. So if you look at the 348 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: tweet the English translation, he's essentially said, I'm sharing two 349 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: photos of our supervision of the Mayan train works. One 350 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: taken by an engineer three days ago apparently shows and 351 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: a luke cha, another by Diego Prieto of a splendid 352 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: pre Hispanic sculpture and eck balam. Everything is mystical and illuminated, 353 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: or we could do a different read like everything is mystical. 354 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: He's having this weird kind of McConaughey Harrelson moment, Bud, 355 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: he's soft at my guy, and he's and he's he's 356 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: serious about it. But people have already started asking some questions. 357 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: I guess we should say the Maya train is a 358 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: railway that's going to be about a thousand miles long, 359 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: and it's been pitched as a way to spark local 360 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: economic development where it's being constructed. Is he using this 361 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: as an argument against this project? I don't know. It 362 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: reminded me of the stories from Iceland wherein construction companies 363 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: will build roads around what they say see as as 364 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: the home of spirits, right, trolls even. Yeah, And so 365 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: this thing goes viral. Everybody thinks he's joking. He emphatically 366 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: is not, And and then people start looking into the 367 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: actual photo he posted, which you can see online Twitter wherever. 368 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: And the image does not have metadata, so we don't 369 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: really know. We can't really prove who took it or 370 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: when it was taken. And this is interesting because the 371 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: photo itself might be older than the President appears to believe. 372 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: In fact, it's nearly identical to another photo from twenty 373 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: twenty one, which is why it was a little trick 374 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: question when I asked, have you guys seen this photo before? Yeah, 375 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: but it wasn't described as that creature. It was described 376 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: as a witch. Yes, yeah, it's a bit. It strikes 377 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a witchy figure. I'm not gonna lie. 378 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean the outline, the glowing eye also reminds me 379 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: of a Thaie film called Uncle Boone Me who can 380 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: recall his past lives. Oh yeah, so kind of Yeah, 381 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: it's neat has some kind of woodland time traveling spirit 382 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: type things that are like almost looked like the way 383 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: shadow people are depicted in terms of those like kind 384 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: of waking nightmare situations that we've discussed to sleep sleep paralysis, 385 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about some of our favorite 386 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: horror movies later in the week. I believe Matt, you 387 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: found something, and I know you were. You were looking 388 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: in the Mexican news sources as well, So you've found 389 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: something that talks about how this photograph is probably older 390 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: than the President of Mexico believes, or at least believed 391 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: in his tweet. Yes, and as you said, it was 392 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty one, and I mean it's on debate 393 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: dot com dot MX and it it was posted on 394 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: it looks like February tenth, twenty twenty one. I think 395 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: that's how the date is written. Yeah, and it's saying 396 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: that this was an alleged witch that was caught up 397 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: in a tree at a very specific place, General Tehran 398 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: Nuevo Leon And this does remind me very much of 399 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: our One Day episode from a while back, if you remember, 400 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: what we have to realize is that there's an interesting 401 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: parallel of double think in many cultures, wherein someone will say, 402 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: I consider myself a pretty skeptical person, give me the facts. 403 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: But then also traditionally there are some things that I'm 404 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: just going to I'm just going to say, hey, maybe 405 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: maybe they're out there. It's kind of the way Iceland 406 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: treats their cultures belief in the supernatural. That's how a 407 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of different countries will treat belief in ghosts or spirits, 408 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: you know. And the question here for a lot of 409 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: the experts, including folklorists, the question is why did the president, 410 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: the President of Mexico, why why is he why is 411 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: he coming out in support of the existence of these 412 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: creatures who are kind of they're often described as like 413 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: tiny and short and hairy. You know, they're little scamps too. 414 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: They won't like poison your well or kill your firstborn, 415 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: but they're going to open up the gate and let 416 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: the goats out, you know. Are they're gonna like shoes 417 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: in different places? Remember the Yule Lads been in I 418 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: believe is that Icelandic culture oh, the yule Lads. I 419 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm okay with I'm okay with 420 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: us naming hackers on air, but I don't want to 421 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: mess with the ul Ads. Sausage sniffer, Yeah, they all 422 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: say sniffer m yeahs they do weird stuff. Yeah, they 423 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: all have their little moves. That's Iceland. Yes, and they 424 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: used to you're right, and they used to be much 425 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: more dangerous back in the day, or regarded as such, 426 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: which happens a lot with folklore. With this, I don't know, 427 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: it's strange because you can see it's reported in New 428 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: York Times, it's in the Guardian, and a lot of 429 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: folks are saying, or a lot of folks are conjecturing 430 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: that this was like a tongue in cheek human interest 431 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: move on the part of the president. It worked. I'm 432 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: not sure did it worked. We're talking about it, you know, 433 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: And this is where we're keeping this one short because 434 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm gearing up for some more paranormal stuff. We got 435 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: to get back to it, so we don't want to 436 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: say everything about this. But I did want to end 437 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: on a question for a fellow conspiracy realist, which is this, 438 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: do you live in a part of the world where 439 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: belief in the supernatural is still, to a degree prevalent. 440 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: If so, what are what are the spirits or the 441 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: creatures that people talk about? And equally as important, do 442 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: you think the actual again, the actual president of Mexico, 443 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: do you think that he j uinely believes in creatures 444 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: like this the Aluches or the Luxe's spelled a l 445 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: u x e S. Would love to know your thoughts. 446 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: You can hit us up and any variety of means 447 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: or platforms or just you know, tell your favorite mysterious 448 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: tree elf to travel our way in Atlanta, Georgia, and 449 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: we'll speak to them directly. It'd be cool if we 450 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: had them on air, you know. Dream Big Matt's like, yeah, sure, 451 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: sure buddy. Okay. So, like I said, we're we've got 452 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in the mix in the next 453 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: few weeks. There was some big things happening. So we're 454 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna keep this one a little bit shorter. We're gonna 455 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: pause for a word from our sponsors, and we're gonna 456 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: end with some potentially good news for the future. And 457 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: we're back and gentlemen, have you seen the film Armageddon 458 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: or perhaps Deep Impact any number of the asteroid related 459 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: disaster films. Disasteroid films so many times deep intact. Yeah, yeah, 460 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: for sure, there's there's others. It's definitely a genre. Um. 461 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: I think probably Armageddon is the one that we think 462 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: of the most. Don't know if that one got a 463 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: criterion release. I think that The Rock definitely did. But 464 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Armageddon is also a oh gosh, what's the guy's name, 465 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: Bruckheimer's that his name? One of those big, blustery blockbuster 466 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: movies about a ragtag band of of every men and 467 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: some scientists that go to outer space to land on 468 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: a doomsday asteroid that's that's careening towards planet Earth. But 469 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Michael Bay confused Bruckheimer and Bay Bay is the Transformers guy, 470 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: but they're both. Yeah, they're similar. He's known for his 471 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: subtle plot construction very much. So. Yeah, so this, this 472 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: asteroid depicted in the film Armageddon would potentially breach Earth's 473 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: atmosphere and cause all kinds of hellish chaos, you know, um, 474 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: potentially if it hit in the ocean, you know, it 475 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: caused tidal waves and all that kind of stuff. There's 476 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: truth to that, I mean there, you know, if if 477 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: a large body were to collide and it were big enough. 478 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: You know, we've always heard about oh, it'll burn up. 479 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Anyone that hits will probably burn up in the atmosphere 480 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: before it hits Earth. If they were sufficiently large, like 481 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: planet sized or something, that would be bad because we 482 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't entirely burn up. Probably. Um. And you hope that 483 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: that Uncle sam Uh and his government are considering this, 484 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: coming up with some kind of you know plan uh 485 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: And and yes, this is very true. They have been 486 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: doing that. Um. Of course, we've got the Space Force, 487 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: which is not directly tied to this. We also have 488 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: a program that NASA has been working on for some 489 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: time now called DART. I think we've discussed DART at 490 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: some point, Yes we have. Yeah, it's it's part of 491 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: NASA's planetary strategy and it stands for double Asteroid Redirection Test. 492 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: And JOHNS. Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland were 493 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: also involved. And the idea is to send essentially a 494 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: small spacecraft on a collision course with an asteroid that 495 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: could potentially be bad news for planet Earth. And they 496 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: did that thing and to have NASA describe it after 497 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: ten months flying in space NASA's double Asteroid Redirection Test, 498 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: the world's first planetary defense technology demonstration, successfully impacted it's 499 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: asteroid target on Monday, the agency's first attempt to move 500 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: an asteroid in space. So this is interesting. This is 501 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: very an interesting distinction on in the movie arm at 502 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: get In that we've been talking about, the goal was 503 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: to put explosives into the thing, drill down in it. 504 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: They have like one guy, I think Bruce will character 505 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: is like a drilling expert, and that's a big part 506 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: of it. Why they have to have him. It's got 507 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: to be him, um, and you know, fill the thing 508 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: with with with dynamiter some equivalent and blow it up 509 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: into much smaller pieces, which seems like it would also 510 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: cause multiple problems. But this is not their goal. Their 511 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: goal is to move it, to alter its course. And 512 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: if you theoretically moved it enough, you know it's far 513 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: enough away, just a little bit of movement, even in 514 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: the time it would take for such a you know, 515 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: asteroid to reach Earth, probably would steer clear of it entirely. 516 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: That's the dream, and that's we were talking about. Dart 517 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two, right when they first when 518 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: they first gave this a go, and it's really impressive too. 519 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's easy to sit on planet 520 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Earth and say, well I saw Armageddon and I think 521 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: you all could do better. But but they're doing massive science, 522 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: making more of a show. You know, whatever happened a showmanship? Um, 523 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: But no, this is the smart move. The really cool 524 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: thing about this is the reason why they even targeted 525 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: this asteroid, which was actually two asteroids, a larger one 526 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: and a smaller one, and they targeted the small one 527 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: and had that impact hit the small one because it 528 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: has a smaller mass, which increased increases the probability that 529 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: they're actually going to make an impact, a deep impact 530 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: on the on the orbit of that thing. The smaller 531 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: one around the larger asteroid right right, that would be 532 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: dia MorphOS is the small one, and the chalker is 533 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Diddy most there you go, Yeah, who was now short 534 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: his name, but just Diddy. It's a rebranding for the 535 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: moving forward. I'll learned a new word today that makes sense. 536 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: It's easy to put this on the end of most things. 537 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: But a moonlight, that's what diamorphos is. It's an asteroid moonlight. 538 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: And when we say small, it's still a big old fellow, 539 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: but one hundred and sixty meters in diameter, whereas the 540 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: larger buddy is seven hundred and eighty meters in amateur. Yeah. 541 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: But the cool thing to me, guys, is it the 542 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: whole reason they targeted is so they could measure the 543 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: orbit of the small one around the big one, to 544 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: measure the change to see if it actually did enough 545 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: or you had enough of an impact that we could 546 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: use that same idea and target of just a single 547 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: asteroid that was headed towards Earth and make enough of 548 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: a change where it just misses us and then hopefully 549 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: for the next however many hundred years would continue to 550 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: miss us. Proof of concept. Yeah, and it was. It 551 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: did work. Yeah. The quote this is by the way, 552 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: directly from the NASA press release about this, and the 553 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: quote comes from Thomas Zerbuchan. Zerbuchan seems like a German 554 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: name Associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at NASA 555 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: headquarters in Washington. Breath and he said, this planetary defense 556 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: is a globally unifying effort that affects everyone living on Earth. 557 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Now we know we can aim a spacecraft with the 558 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: precision needed to impact even a small body, because again 559 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: that's the test, right, easier to do it with a 560 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: larger body. And then I guess he's got to take 561 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: into calculation in the mass and build your spacecraft accordingly. 562 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: One wouldn't imagine because you got to match it. One 563 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: would think to make a move. And I want to 564 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: talk more about that in the second too. But he 565 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: goes on, now he can aim a space crack with 566 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: the precision needed to impact even a small body in space. 567 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: Just a small change in its speed is all we 568 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: need to make a significant difference in the path and 569 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: asteroid travels. Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure, there's a little 570 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: bit of math involved, as you might as you might assume, 571 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: but I also want to posit just for the good 572 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: folks at NASA a possible money saving measure. This could 573 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: hit two problems with one figurative non asteroid stone Superman. 574 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say super pigs really close, but like 575 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: they're so good at ruining environment. What if we just 576 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: have like a whole passle of super pigs and just 577 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: shoot them on mass into the asteroid. Then it's like 578 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: that cobra problem, Ben, you know, or the rat problem 579 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: where you deploy all these these these creatures to solve 580 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: a problem. And then now we have Ferrell Space, pigs, 581 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Ferrell Space. I know, man, I'm just like roll the 582 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: dice at this point with all the problems of the world, 583 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I love, I love when we talk 584 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: about space. You guys know that. And I'm just I'm 585 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: bringing up the pigs because it feels like you gotta 586 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: find something to do with them. It's still fresh, and 587 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about that, I think in our 588 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: next episode in this week's listener, Maile episode M. But 589 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: we can't talk about space, by the way without dropping 590 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: some absolutely bonkers acronyms. Oh please, Yeah. We already have DART, 591 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: which is the double by the way, double asteroid. It's 592 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: like a double fantasy, you know, double asteroid redirection tests. 593 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: And we also have some some tech, some cutting edge 594 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: tech that was associated with this mission. One of them 595 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: is called DRACO and this is the spacecraft's only instruments 596 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: measurement instrument, and that stands for the Diddymos Reconnaissance. It's 597 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: an asteroid camera for optical navigation, beautiful navigations. Extra but 598 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: why not just have it be Drake Kahn. I always 599 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: wonder about that when they have an extra word that 600 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: isn't part of the acronym, it's just implied. I don't 601 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: care for that. Drake Kahn sounds cooler than drake koe 602 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: even but maybe not. I don't know. No, I think 603 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: you're making a really, really solid point. All three of 604 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: us have seen some pretty awkward acronyms, and you know, 605 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: it's no secret that on this show, it's a mystery 606 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: to us as to how those acronyms get chosen. Whose 607 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: job is it the Is it considered, you know, kind 608 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: of a crap job that an intern gets, or is 609 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: it the privilege of the people at the top who 610 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: are saying, like I have spent decades at NASA, it's 611 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: my turn to come up with a name. And do 612 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: you like work backwards from the cool, buzzy sounding word, 613 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, to get what the actual letters stand for, 614 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: because these are all pretty scidency words. But I guess 615 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: may be part of that is deciding whether or not 616 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: to leave one out so that you can make the 617 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: cool right. I bet it's some combination of the two. 618 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: The next one is smart nav nav of course is navigation, 619 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: but you can't put an inn after smart because then 620 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: how do you say that smarten smart could, but it 621 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: would be it doesn't really read very well. So smart 622 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: nav and the smart stands for small body. They've chosen 623 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: to hyphenate that, which I guess is grammatically correct small 624 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: body maneuvering autonomous real time navigation smart NAV. That was 625 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: another tool control system. So are we are we saying, first, 626 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: thank you brilliant, brilliant space experts for making some real 627 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: progress in trying to save the world, but also sharpen 628 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: up your acronyms. Is that what we're saying? No question 629 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: always always a two for there one thing I'm trying 630 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: to find this in the release. One would presume that, 631 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean that is a one way mission. I mean 632 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: the spacecraft is lost right like, it's smashed at this point, 633 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not coming back. Things like that. I think that 634 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: would be a whole other level of complexity, a whole 635 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: other bag of space badgers to make something that could 636 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: boomerang successfully. But it's not out of the realm of possibility. No, 637 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: it's not. And one thing I don't typically I guess 638 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: put in these kinds of press releases is how much 639 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: the thing costs. But one would presume, knowing what we 640 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: know about like intercontinental ballistic missiles and even things like that. 641 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: Something with this level of tech probably not cheap. So 642 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: a test like this damn well better been successful. And 643 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: it was. But we do have a good news, a 644 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: bit of good news to leave off with on this. 645 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: We are not expected to be in danger of an impact, 646 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: a deep impact by any planetary body you know or 647 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: whatever you know, asteroid for at least a hundred years, 648 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,479 Speaker 1: because you got to remember, it took the spacecraft ten 649 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: months to even reach this destination to do the thing 650 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: to make that impact. So we're probably okay for the 651 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: time being, but it's good, good to be prepared, better 652 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: to have it and do the one test, then just 653 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: have them in reserve for when the time does come, 654 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: if we still even have technology and infrastructure by then, 655 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: if the Internet hasn't been erased by solar coronal mass 656 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: ejections or whatever we talked about this last time. But 657 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: the first thing humanity has to do is see these 658 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: things before they hit us. And we're kind of we're 659 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: doing better. We're not there yet, yeah, say, we've been 660 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: slacking off a little bit on watching the sky, making progress, 661 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: making progress from doomed to in a terrible situation. They 662 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: there you go. I was saying, nobody who is doing 663 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: that work is slacking off. It's just there's a lot 664 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: of sky. Yeah. I certainly was not throwing shade at 665 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: any individual skywatcher. I just mean, probably there's not enough 666 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: eyeballs over all, whether they be virtual or otherwise. But 667 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: why can't that stuff be I mean, I'm surely there 668 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: are systems in place that would set off some kind 669 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: of clason like in the movies, you know, if one 670 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: of these things is cited. But again we're talking far 671 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: far away, and I guess it could be fragments that 672 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: are new that then if they're smaller, they travel faster. 673 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean, it could be the atmosphere 674 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: is very good at eating things, but when they when 675 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: they enter. But also there are problems beyond asteroids that 676 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: that potentially compose a much more difficult threat to address. 677 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of gamma rays, gamma wave burst in particular. 678 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: These things can travel so fast that you kind of 679 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: have a moment to know what's going to happen, and 680 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: then you're gone. Shout out to our pal Josh Clark 681 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: with his fascinating podcast from Fears Back called The End 682 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: of the World, where I think he talks about the 683 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: gamma burst issue, but one problem at a time. I mean, 684 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: this is awesome science, and this is good news. This 685 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: is good news, and this research has to continue. It's vital. 686 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: It's like the infrastructure problem. People don't know how important 687 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: it is until something goes wrong, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, 688 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: for sure. And I've got to wrap this up with 689 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: a shout out to somebody else, Comedian John Daley, who 690 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: y'all probably are familiar with. He's on Comedy Bang Bangalat 691 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: and your mention of gamma rays reminded me of a 692 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: hilarious red Hot Chili Pepper's parody song that he created 693 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: called Abra Cadabra La Foreigna, and it is just absolutely 694 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: spot on. But there's a really great lyric when he 695 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: starts rapping like Anthony Ketas, he says, I drink an 696 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: Alabama Slamma with your sexy ass Grandma. The Hulk turns 697 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: green when the rays get gamma. I didn't think that 698 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: is brilliant wordplay, if bars beautiful. I also just a 699 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: reminder here before you end at Noel, there was a 700 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: meteor that's a very small one about a meter in diameter, 701 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: a meter meteor it a meteor a meteor meter diameter meteorite. 702 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: It back. It was in mid February when it's just 703 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: this tiny little meteor. It struck Earth, burned up in 704 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: the atmosphere. As Ben said, the atmosphere ate it. But 705 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: it was only discovered like an hour or two just 706 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: before it hit. So basically we had enough time to go, oh, crap, 707 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: and then it burned up, but it was small enough 708 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: to where it didn't cause any damage. But that kind 709 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: of thing is happening all the time, right, So if 710 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: ever you have a relaxing afternoon and you're not worried 711 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: about something, just imagine, just look up at the sky 712 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: and imagine all the stuff that's out there. We are 713 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: so funny. By the way, that was that was the 714 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: seventh time a me has been seen just before it 715 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: made impact, seventh times in history. Like train derailments, these 716 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 1: are like cosmic train derailments. They happen way more often 717 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: than you think. And with that, you know, maybe we 718 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: should maybe we should consult the President of Mexico. Maybe 719 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: he has some hot tips on our elves could come 720 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: into play. He seems like he'd be fun at parties. 721 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we can, maybe we can find out, maybe we 722 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: can officially invite him on the show. 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