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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Subtle Podcast. John

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Speaker 1: Schmoke with you. Today's guest is Giants second round draft

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Speaker 1: pick and rookie safety Xavier McKinney. But first on our

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Speaker 1: mind everybody that you can find the Johnt Subtle Podcast

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Speaker 1: please with a five star positive review. And now we're

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Speaker 1: joined by Giants rookie safety and second round pick Xavier McKinney. Xavier,

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you man. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: hope you and your family, everybody around you is safe

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Speaker 1: and healthy right now. Yes, sir, I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, everybody you know around me and my

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Speaker 1: circle pretty uh pretty well been going pretty well, pretty safe.

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Speaker 1: So right now we're just you know, going through our time.

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Speaker 1: We find the way to push through it. Yeah, And look,

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Speaker 1: it's tough enough to be a rookie in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and you know, figuring everything out this is as unique

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Speaker 1: as circumstances any class has gone through, probably since the

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Speaker 1: lockout in what's the process been like since you kind

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Speaker 1: of got drafted in, You've been starting to join and

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Speaker 1: you know, going through the off season program in these

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Speaker 1: virtual meetings. Uh, it's definitely been different. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: the big word that I that I keep hearing is unique. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think our situation has been very unique, just because

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Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, this is the first time

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Speaker 1: something like this is has happened. So I've definitely been

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Speaker 1: a different experience. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: I never went through the experiences before, so for me,

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Speaker 1: this is just you know, something that I have to

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Speaker 1: go through as far as you know, through through my

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Speaker 1: process and all the other groupes. But UM, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been good overall. Um, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been a little that's a lot of zoom calls, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that. Um, that's a lot of calls over

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Speaker 1: the phones can kind of get uh, you know, tiring

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Speaker 1: at the times. But it's definitely been fun. It's been

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Speaker 1: a different experience and you know, I love love very good.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference between learning virtually like you are now

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Speaker 1: as compared to what you would normally be doing, um,

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Speaker 1: which I guess I can compare it to kind of

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Speaker 1: spring practice when you're Alabama, Right, you do meet things

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Speaker 1: and you kind of like workouts on the field. What's

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Speaker 1: the main difference for you as a player only being

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Speaker 1: able to do things virtually. I think the main difference

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Speaker 1: and biggest difference is just the building relationship with you know,

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Speaker 1: all the um, the coaching staff members and the players. UM. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing, because you know, when

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Speaker 1: And it's a little different over the phone, just because

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Speaker 1: you might not be around then as much, or you know,

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Speaker 1: things just seem a little a little bit, um, I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's the biggest, like the main the main

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Speaker 1: the good news is you probably avoided some murkie hazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, probably as many responsibilities. How have you been

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Speaker 1: able to bond with your teammates they'd even talked to him.

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Speaker 1: Not doing the team meetings and and you know, just

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Speaker 1: been going well too. Um, you know, since ever since

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Speaker 1: Are you chomping at the bit at this point to

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Speaker 1: What do you think that since it's gonna be like

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Speaker 1: whatever they come with that. What are some of the

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Speaker 1: things in Patrick graham scheme that has you excited to

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what we went off of, you know,

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Speaker 1: knew defense. The coordinator pasogram, Uh, it's a great guy. Um,

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Speaker 1: yet or until you get on the field, can you

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Speaker 1: really not tell exactly how they're gonna use you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not too sure yet. All right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: now I'm I'm not really focused on, um, you know

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Speaker 1: it's way different, um, way way way different than college

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Speaker 1: to play. That's interesting because in a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that you know, it's the very pro style system, Nick say,

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Speaker 1: haven't had any idea of what this defense might look like.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, you guys know whenever, whenever we

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Speaker 1: I hear you, man, And you know you're somebody too

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Speaker 1: coming in, are you more comfortable in any particular role?

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Speaker 1: You're more comfortable on the box, you more comfortable covering

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