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Everybody? 20 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and Out podcast, How are we doing? 21 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: We are going to dive in today to some brock 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: purty conversation floating around out there on the interweb, on 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: television streets that I wanted to address. Josh Allen as well, 24 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: saw a lot of takes on him that made me 25 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: shake my head. Dan Campbell, I think one area that 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: painted a picture about him originally that a lot of 27 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: people missed on because of the way he communicated. And 28 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: then the pressure on Lamar Jackson that a lot of 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks have not been able to figure out against 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So I know that there are two quarterbacks 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: they don't play each other, but what it would mean 32 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: for him to beat the Chiefs, because let's face it, it 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: would be pretty massive. He's gonna win a second MVP 34 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: and you beat Mahomes and Andy Reid, you get that, 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: you get that notch on your resume, something that's gonna 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: age really well. So we'll dive into that, and obviously 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: football conversation all week. 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I saw a lot of 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: people pushing back in my direct messages about some of 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: my conversation about him. Overall, there's just a lot going on. Obviously, 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark said some things today on ESPN that had 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Auk and Deebo Samuel firing back on Instagram supporting 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: their guy. And I think a couple things can be true. 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Brock Purty this season as the pick two hundred and 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: sixty two, the second year in the NFL, first year 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: as a full time starter, start to finish, had a 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: fantastic season. It is not debatable he was really good. 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Beside a couple games. Welcome to football. You get some 78 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: bad games. He had an unreal season, honestly for them, 79 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: couldn't have been much better Cleveland game, Baltimore game. Clearly 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: would like back. But in terms of the regular season, 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: he was fucking awesome. Was near the lead, if not 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: in the lead, in the majority of statistical categories. Quarterbacks 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: Saturday night against the Green Bay Packers, he was not good. 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: So you can have a good season and then have 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: a bad playoff game. Peyton Manning had a ton of them, right, 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Great seasons, bad playoff games. Aaron Rodgers a couple years 87 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: ago against the forty nine ers at home. Great season, 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: awful playoff game. This is hard. This is football, and 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: we don't have this is like, well, let the month 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: play out, let's watch it along sample size. This is football. 91 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: We react off individual game situations, right and clearly with 92 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: Brock he can't hold the ball when it's wet. We've 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: seen now multiple times that is something. In good conditions, 94 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: he's good. Jared Goff, who's had an excellent season, honestly, 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: two very good back to back seasons. We've seen him 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: before in weather games outside. He's not the same player, 97 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: not everybody as Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. And that's 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: the other thing I saw today on the old four 99 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: letter network streets is I can't believe we had to 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: compare this guy to Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Who 101 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: the fuck did that? Who in their right mind at 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: any time this no matter what his stats were, how 103 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: good his game, thought that brock Purty was as good 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: as those two guys, making a combined seven hundred million 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: dollars and honestly like two of the greatest players in 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: the sport I've ever seen. Mahomes is already like a 107 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: top three quarterback in the history of the league, and 108 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: I think we all agree hopefully his team can do better, 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: and I do think eventually, like Peyton Manning will get 110 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: into him here in a little bit, that Josh Allen 111 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: eventually is gonna win some of these big games, because 112 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, as an individual, I thought he was incredible yesterday, 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: But as a pure talent, he's one of the great 114 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: talents we've ever seen in league history. Who's Lamar Jackson? 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Like they Yeah, they were competing for the MVP, right. 116 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Lamar didn't have some statistically great season up until the 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: last three or four games when he added a bunch 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: of touchdowns, but no one would argue as a talent, 119 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: brock Purty is more talented than Lamar Jackson, right, and 120 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: then when you have a bad game. Because in football, 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: the Packers and Niners I saw today did almost forty 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: million people. Shocker, two of the biggest brands in the 123 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: biggest league the NFL playoffs. I don't even need to 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: see like biggest game since we know ratings are being 125 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: shattered a lot of people watch the NFL right now. 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: But like, he was bad, and I think we need 127 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: to be able to separate, like he's a good player 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: or had a really good season, he had a bad game, 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and then projecting him moving forward, I would not give 130 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: him some long term contract based off what I've seen 131 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: off two years. They're a year away from even having 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: to have that discussion. But we've already seen and part 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: of the reason why the forty nine ers the quarterback discussion, 134 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: it's fair to have. Like I don't view I'm a 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: forty nine er guy brock Purty like he's on some scholarship. 136 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: If you said, John, would you put ten thousand dollars 137 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be the quarterback for the next six years. No, 138 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has just proven Jimmy Garoppolo got him to 139 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl two years later they're drafting his replacement. 140 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Then two years after trading three first round picks for 141 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, he has traded to the Dallas Cowboys. Trey Lance, 142 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: after they traded three first round picks pick twelve and 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: two more to trade up and get his services, did 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: not make it to week one. Year three, he was 145 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: gone on the Dallas Cowboys. Brock Purdy said last week 146 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: to ESPN that Kyle told him this offseason that if 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: they can talk Tom Brady out of retirement, that Tom 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Brady will be the starting quarterback and brock Purdy will 149 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: be the backup. So the conversation with the forty nine 150 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: ers like there are so many different variables here. He's 151 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: had an excellent season, he had a bad playoff game, 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: and big picture when it comes to the forty nine 153 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: er quarterback position for being a team now that's in 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: their fourth championship game in five years and has a 155 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: chance if they win it, to get back to another 156 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Has been one of the most successful teams 157 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But unlike all these other successful teams, 158 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Bills, the Chiefs, they don't have like 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: some quarterback that you go, yeah, this guy's gonna be 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the starter four or well over a decade. You're gonna 161 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: give this guy, if he stays healthy, several contracts. So 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: it makes them an interesting conversation. But just because you 163 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: have a bad game does not make you a shitty player, right. 164 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean some guys struggle in the weather, guys that 165 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: are Hall of famers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees. But when 166 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: everyone tries to after one game act like the guy's 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: a scrub, like you're being disingenuous, right, And then the 168 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: people that get so offended when you say he didn't play, well, 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: he did what everyone wanted him to do, he got 170 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the final drive. Well, yeah, the reason they were in 171 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: that position as a ten point favorite. And I tweeted 172 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: this during the game if they had lost that game, 173 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Me and Stucky talked about it. I think last week 174 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: there have been seven teams in the last twenty five 175 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: years that have won as a double digit underdog in 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That honestly, it's so hard to be a 177 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: double digit underdog past the first round. You either have 178 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: to have a major injury or just on an incredible 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Cinderella run and seven or twenty five. So we're talking 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: about you know, twenty five a little over twenty five 181 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: percent winning those games, it would have been a massive, 182 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: massive upset. That's a fact. And to be in that 183 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: position as a team that we acted like was the 184 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: best team in the NFC all season long, to a 185 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: team at one point that was two and five. Now 186 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: they were hot, they were playing well, but it was 187 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: because of the offense, which was terrible. The coach gets 188 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: played too. And I think this is what we talked 189 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: about this the other day. Like Andy Reid is one 190 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches of all time, he's had bad games. 191 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick one of the i'd argue the best coach 192 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: of all time, has had bad games. Kyle Shanahan is 193 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: clearly one of the better coaches in the National Football 194 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: League right now. He had a bad game. Like I 195 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: don't put it on Brock Purty that he can't throw 196 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: in the ring. We've seen it now. We know for 197 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: a fact it's on the coach too. We can't ask 198 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: him to throw it forty times today. We can't just 199 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: stick with the game plan. I never understand as a coach. 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: It I understand, and I've seen these guys firsthand, so 201 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I respect the amount of hours they put in, and 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I saw it Andy Reid, who I would imagine knowing 203 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: people that have been in New England, him and Belichick 204 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: can go as long as anybody in league history throughout 205 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: the week of just not needing sleep and working on football. 206 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: But I do believe that Sean McVay and Kyle and 207 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: the Grudens, like these guys are nuts. Right, So you 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: spend all this time and you develop this game plan 209 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: and then you get into the game. Well, after a 210 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: couple series, it's it's okay to scrap some shit. Like 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: part of doing the work is so you are prepared. 212 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: But if it's not working, then you have to pivot. 213 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: That's what we all do in these industries. So I 214 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: put a lot on Kyle Shanahan in that game, not 215 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: on brock Party. At the end of the day, the 216 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: guys picked two hundred and sixty two. So comparing him 217 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: to Josh Allen who's on a three hundred million dollar 218 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: contract and was the seventh pick in the draft, where 219 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is already a top three quarterback of all time, 220 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: who's don a four hundred fifty million dollar contract, Like, 221 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: that's a wasted exercise. I think you're an idiot, right, 222 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: But if you can't admit like, yeah, that was really 223 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: shitty Saturday night, I also think you're an idiot. Like 224 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: there is some happy medium. And that's the thing with 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I saw a lot today of people that 226 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I think know what they're talking about when it comes 227 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: to football, Like this guy is just never gonna get 228 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: it done. He's just not good enough. What are we 229 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: talking about. I've been watching football for thirty plus years. 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: That performance last night I thought was incredible. I was 231 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: texting with one of my buddies on the scouting staff 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: who went to the game, was on the uh was 233 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: on one of the buses back to the airport. He's like, 234 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: what a performance by that guy. I mean, I bet 235 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: if you ask Andy and Spagnola, and I'm sure they'll 236 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: get asked about it a little bit this week, but 237 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: they'll be looking forward and maybe they got asked about 238 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: it after the game. Of all your years in the 239 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: National Football League, how many guys made you as nervous 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: as that guy when he's playing. Is it his fault 241 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: that his GM paid a guy that was thirty two 242 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: to thirty three years old and von Miller to a 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: ton of money and then he tears acl and he's 244 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: never been the same, Or that Stefan Diggs down the 245 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: sideline hits the guy in the hands and can't catch 246 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the ball. Now, I'm not trying to act like Josh 247 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Allen is Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick Mahomes is clearly the 248 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: best quarterback of his generation right now. But if you 249 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: think there's like a huge gap between those two guys, 250 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: especially after last night, who's got the better coach, who's 251 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: got the better organization, who has the better defense? Right? 252 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: That does matter? Now when you play in games you 253 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: throw several picks like that that's you, or you play 254 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: like brock perty and you can't complete a pass because 255 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: you can't grip the ball. Like that's a bad performance. 256 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Watching Josh Allen on Sunday night, Like I thought that 257 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: was championship level. That was the highest level in which 258 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you can play against another team who is a champion 259 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: multiple times. So when I see this, like is this 260 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: guy ever gonna get it done? Think about like and 261 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: I saw I don't even know who, but someone comparing 262 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: him to Peyton Manning. One Peyton Manning was terrible in 263 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Why because he couldn't play in inclement weather. 264 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: He was not very good outside. That ain't Josh Allen's problem. 265 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is fantastic in weather. He's literally a weather 266 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: cheat code. His problem is his organization when it comes 267 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to building the team has been kind of flawed. And 268 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: in the past maybe he's made some mistakes, but now 269 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: two games they've lost in the last three years. One 270 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: his defense gave up two plays like fifty yards and 271 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: thirteen seconds, and then last night his kicker missed a 272 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: kick and also some of his players just let him 273 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: down throughout the game. They couldn't get a stop. I mean, 274 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: it was like the Chiefs weren't punting. It was like 275 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: field goal, field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, fumble out of 276 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone that would have been 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown. What's Josh Allen supposed to do? Play middle linebacker, 278 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: make some tackles, Like some stuff is pretty obvious. It's 279 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: fun to act like this guy's never gonna get it done. 280 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Like we've seen James hard enough. The guy folds in 281 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, right, We've seen Alex Trodriguez back in there, 282 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: remember in baseball, Like he didn't look the same in 283 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and now baseball is unique, small sample size, 284 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: but still I've seen Josh Allen enough in the playoffs. 285 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: I would take him on my team any day of 286 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: the week, and a hundred times on a Sunday night 287 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: game if I needed to try to win, whether it's 288 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: January or whether it's October. He might throw some picks, 289 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: or he might throw multiple touchdowns and run for one 290 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: hundred yards and keep my team. Who shouldn't win the 291 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: game in the game? Is he Mahomes? No? Right? Was 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning? Tom Brady? No? Would you take Tom or 293 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning? Yes? So I just think this notion that 294 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen can never get it done is just stupid 295 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: to me. It really is Josh Allen if he's gonna 296 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: stay healthy for the next five six years. Some of 297 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: it's on his organization. This is not basketball. I can't 298 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: just turn into Michael Jordan. I do need some help. 299 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: There's literally half the game that a quarterback can't do anything. 300 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: So if your defense is either banged up or not good, 301 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: it's a problem because in football in January, having the 302 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: defense in the history of the league kind of matters. 303 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: You usually don't see many teams win the Super Bowl, 304 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, their defense was terrible, right, that's a 305 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: problem for the Lions. Right now. I want to buy 306 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: any the Lions, but defensively, it's hard to trust them. 307 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Even if like for win two games, they're gonna beat 308 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and then they're gonna beat either 309 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Lamar or Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, it's hard to 310 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: see that because of their defense. Now, if their defense 311 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: was good, like hell, yeah, they can win the Super Bowl. 312 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: But this notion that Josh Allen is some like choker 313 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, his team hasn't won the game, but 314 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: watching him in a vacuum, I thought he was pretty 315 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: freaking good, just like a couple of years ago when 316 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: they lost to the Chiefs and they changed the overtime rule. 317 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Pretty sure it had five touchdowns. So some of this discourse, 318 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and I get people have to have takes for the 319 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: TV to cut it up and put it out, but 320 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: give me a fucking break. The Dan Campbell thing. Most 321 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: football coaches have similar mindsets when it comes to philosophical 322 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: beliefs in the sport. Right, it's a violent game, so 323 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna want violent players. You're gonna want big, physical 324 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: guys that hit really hard. Right, You're gonna want offensive 325 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: linemen who are tough as nails. You're gonna want players 326 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: to battle injuries and play when they're dinged up. That 327 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: This isn't pewee football, this isn't high school football. You're 328 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: paid a premium to play football, and coaches and executives 329 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: expect that and owners. Right, part of the reason you 330 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: get paid is to play through you know, bumps and bruises. 331 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: It's it's all great players do. Every guy in the 332 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: NFL playing this upcoming weekend and they just played last 333 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: weekend is not one hundred percent. A lot of guys 334 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: are closer to fifty percent than they are seventy five percent. 335 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: But a lot of coaches, especially the younger generation, you know, 336 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay, Brandon Staley was really good 337 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: at this. They talk about football, not under those terms. 338 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: They actually talk about football much more like a dude 339 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: in the media who has multiple degrees would tweet about 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: football and they get a lot of praise that way. Right. 341 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley used to speak early on. He called every 342 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: reporter by their name and spoke because he's intellectual he's 343 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: a smart guy, could hold a conversation that felt like 344 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: he was one of the presses or the media. In 345 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: the media, let's face it looks down on people who 346 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: they feel are intellectually inferior. Right, they value academics and 347 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: academia as a whole, I would say, more than most 348 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: of us. Let's say, in the business world, where we 349 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: value much more about production revenue less about No one 350 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: cares where you went to school if you produce. I 351 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: knew a lot of guys that didn't graduate high school. 352 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: They were multimillionaires growing up, friends, grandparents, or even parents. 353 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: Now it's different generation in twenty twenty four, it's probably 354 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: less likely. But your education level in the real world, 355 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I got news for you when it comes to success, 356 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: not that a college education. I have multiple degrees, but 357 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: it does not determine your success or failure. Now there 358 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: are stats saying you're better off obviously going to college 359 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: than not. But just because you don't does not mean 360 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: you're guaranteed to not make in life. That's not how 361 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: it works. And the entire media is well educated, and 362 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: they take academics really seriously. And Dan Campbell felt like 363 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: the opposite of academics. He talked about fighting and biting 364 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: and doing whatever it took to win. He gave off, 365 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: quote unquote a meathead thing, even though a lot of 366 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: people in the sport of football, I would say have 367 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: some meathead qualities. Right to love football as much as 368 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: you do in the NFL or Power five as a coach, 369 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: you have to have some meadhead tendencies, right, It's impossible. 370 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I didn't love football as much as all the guys 371 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I was around. I saw it firsthand, like Andy Reid, 372 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Matt Naggi, Brett Veitch, Howie Roseman like deep 373 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to their core. They just like football more than I do. 374 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: And I love football. I love football probably more than 375 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of people listening to this, But at 376 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: the highest level of the sport, Like every guy's a 377 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: little bit of a meat head, right, That's why we 378 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: like the sport. But the way you communicate it like 379 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: this is why Belichick always kind of drove guys crazy. 380 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: He treats the press like shit, but everyone acknowledges he's 381 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: very very intelligent and he's an academic, so people kind 382 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: of battle they just call him an asshole, but no 383 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: one ever questions his intelligence. People acted like Dan Campbell 384 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: was a village idiot, was a complete moron, right, And 385 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a great example of early on he 386 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: didn't talk like some of these younger hotshots. Obviously he 387 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't look like them either. He's enormous and he looks 388 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: like he could still play in the NFL as being 389 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: a former player. But I think he's a good example 390 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: of clearly kind of knows what he's doing, and clearly 391 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: he relates very very well with players. The other thing 392 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: is not everyone is going to have the capability of 393 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: being Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan or Matt Lafleur as 394 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: a play caller, right, Jim Harbaugh cannot call plays. He's 395 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: a former NFL quarterback. He cannot call offensive place never 396 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: does it. But you know what Jim does exceptionally well 397 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: higher coaches, and that is a skill that I'm sorry 398 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: is kind of important, right, Mike Tomlin, why did he 399 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: hit some kind of rough waters hired the wrong coach? 400 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: Why is John Harbaugh running circles around everyone when Lamar's 401 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: on the field, Because he has pretty good coaching staff. 402 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: So Dan Campbell, like, do you get credit for I 403 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know, elevating Ben Johnson and making him your offensive coordinator, 404 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: bringing Aaron Glenn to coach your defense. I mean, both 405 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: these guys could become head coaches. And this notion that, like, 406 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: is Dan Campbell the next Nick Sirianni. Here would be 407 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: my pushback on that. Nick Sirianni's guy is Frank Reich, who, listen, 408 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: former quarterback. I think got extra credit because he's six ' four, 409 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: looks the part and played the position. I don't think 410 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: he's any good. I do not. If I'm playing Frank, 411 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm sending the limo to make sure he's on the 412 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: sideline and not a minute late. I do not want 413 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: him to miss one snap of the game. Dan Campbell's 414 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: supporters happened to be Bill Parcells, widely regarded as one 415 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches in the history of the league, 416 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton, who resurrected a dogshit franchise in New 417 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: Orleans and then was just given ninety million dollars for 418 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. And listen, we can debate how good 419 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: he is or not, he's pretty damn good. Those are 420 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: the two guys that he comes from. So I think 421 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: the media missed because he didn't talk and look like them. 422 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: And let's face it, a lot of guys in the 423 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: NFL nowadays definitely talk like them and it buys you 424 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: a pass. Now they turn on you immediately when you 425 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: start losing. But Dan Campbell talked like a position coach. 426 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: He talked about drinking sixty ounces of coffee before eight am. 427 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: He talked about scratching and klawn and doing whatever you 428 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: had to do to kill the opponent. That's how football 429 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: coaches talk behind closed doors. Whether you're Belichick, whether you're 430 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Andy or whether you're Dan camp that's the sport. That's 431 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: the way you communicate with your players now the way 432 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: you do it publicly, and a lot of people you 433 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: know that cover the sport I think are just obsessed 434 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: in general with optics. I've always said optics are the 435 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: biggest BS thing going in society. It's just about what's 436 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: actually going on. I'm a big fan of reality. Well, 437 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: what's actually happening, what's actually going on behind closed doors, 438 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: what's the reality of the situation, And the reality of 439 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: football is always going to be It's a tough man's game, 440 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: even in a sport that has tried to regulate violence 441 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: out of it, and relative to what it was when 442 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: I was a kid in the early and mid nineties, 443 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: is clearly a lot different. It's still a very violent game. 444 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: It's still a game where people tackle each other at 445 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: high rates of speed, guys that do not have much 446 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: fat on them and have a lot of muscle and 447 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of power. It always will be a violent game, 448 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: no matter what. No matter if you want to tell 449 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: me that a guy's a defenseless receiver, there is no 450 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: such thing. When you're running a route, there are defenders 451 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: that are going to tackle you if you get the ball, 452 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: and you know that when the ball is snapped. So 453 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell is just a good example of 454 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: who gives a shit how he talks. Are you just 455 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: good at your job? I mean, there are a lot 456 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: of people that their resume they should be successful in 457 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: their failures. There are a lot of educated Darrel lix 458 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: all over America, just like there are a lot of 459 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: people whose resume from an education standpoint or the way 460 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: they communicate, it's like, how's this guy successful? And they're 461 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: making millions and they're crushing it in their industry. Props 462 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: to Dan Campbell for going to a franchise that was trash, 463 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, an abombining, unembarrassment, and having them in the 464 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: conference championship game. That's an incredible accomplishment. And last but 465 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: not least, I think we're really witnessing Belichick Brady two 466 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: point zero with Andy and Mahomes because there were some 467 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: years where they were the favorites and they won it all. 468 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: There were a lot of years where it's like, ah, 469 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna get knocked and they just found a way. 470 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that game in Buffalo was just classic. That 471 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: was so New England Patriots. It was stupid like that. 472 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: That was the ultimate Belichick Brady game. It just happens 473 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: to now be Mahomes and Andy reed Well. John Harbaugh 474 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: has taken down the Patriots back in the day when 475 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. They beat New England in 476 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: the Conference championship game, and Lamar just proved that like 477 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: okay after a half, took a deep breath, like he 478 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: could look like he did in the regular season in 479 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: a playoff game against arguably the best young defensive coordinator 480 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: might be on his staff, but Demiko's is a star. 481 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: So to me, like anytime I've had to change my 482 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: thought process on this should there be a lot of 483 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: pressure on Andy and Mahomes. It's like it felt like 484 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: this year they were playing with little house money. But 485 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: anytime you got one of the great coaches of all 486 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: time and one of the great quarterbacks, there's always pressure 487 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: to win cause you just never know how long it's 488 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna last. And they showed like they feel pressure, they 489 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: feel urgency, and they proved it. But when you're the 490 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: favorite and you're at home and your team top to 491 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: bottom is better, Like even if you had a couple 492 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: of beers with Veach right now, as we're going to 493 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: this game, whose roster is better? I think their roster 494 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: is better now. One of the great trump cards. Every 495 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: person in the NFL would take Andy over Harball, and 496 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: obviously everyone would take Mahomes over Lamar, just like everyone 497 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: would take Brady over everyone he ever played in these 498 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: big games. But sometimes he lost him and you know 499 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: how you become a legend, like Lamar is gonna have 500 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: his second MVP. He's in rare air just with that 501 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: distinction alone. But like Eli Manning who never won an MVP, 502 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco definitely never won an MVP, and Nick Foles 503 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: was barely ever a starter. When they beat the legends, 504 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: you kind of become a legend, and when you're actually good, 505 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: you get like extra credit. That's why it would have 506 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: been so important for the Bills to win that game. 507 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: It just would have been such a big win for 508 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the franchise and the quarterback to have on his resume. Well, 509 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson despite being favored and getting a team. Now, 510 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: I saw Thoony's hurt. Obviously, Willie Gays banged up. I 511 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: mean there's a team that just the Raven should win 512 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: this game, but in five years we'll won't talk about it. Well, 513 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: the Raven should have won that game if you just 514 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: win it six, seven, eight, ten, twenty years later, like 515 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: remember that time that Lamar Jackson won the MVP and 516 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: knocked out Mahomes out of the playoffs in the conference 517 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: championship game. So we'll get into the pressure rankings as 518 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: this week goes on. I think the forty nine Ers 519 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: to New York still clearly number one, because even if 520 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: you lose the Mahomes, it would sting, but you're still 521 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: losing to Mahomes. It's another thing to lose to the 522 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: Lions as a touchdown favorite. But we'll get deeper into 523 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that conversation. I do think this is a pretty cool 524 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: moment for Lamar, who has an opportunity to I would say, 525 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: change the conversation around running quarterbacks historically. And it kind 526 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: of looked like that in the first half. You're like, 527 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: you can't just run around. This doesn't really work in 528 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, like, well, it kind of does. He kind 529 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: of does. And now with you know, assuming I haven't 530 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: seen the injury report, I don't know if Andy talked 531 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: this morning about Gay, but with the neck injury, anytime 532 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: you start losing linebackers, speedy linebackers against Lamar Jackson, you're 533 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: at a huge You're at a disadvantage if you have 534 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: star linebackers playing Lamar because of what a great runner 535 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: and act lead he is. But the moment he gains 536 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: an advantage, you get backups in there. If he can 537 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: run and pass. We just ought to get you got 538 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: no shot. So this is gonna be fun that game. 539 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, from a big picture historical legacy standpoint, Listen, 540 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm still a sucker for some of this stuff because 541 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: it does matter. Those are the guy we don't talk about, 542 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: the random players of the eighties we talk about Elway, Marino, Montana, 543 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: Kelly Aikman for Steve Young, like that, that's who we 544 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: talk about. Just like in this generation. In twenty years, 545 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: the group we're gonna talk about, led by Mahomes is 546 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: probably Lamar and Josh Allen. And then we'll see how 547 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: this plays out with some of the other cats a 548 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Herbert, you know some of these other guys, they 549 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: got a long way to go. But like how you 550 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: play in these big moments are the way we talk 551 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: about as we get older. It's the way our kids 552 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: that are watching him right now, if you're fifteen years old, 553 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna remember the sport of football. It's like, listen, 554 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: I love Peyton Manning, loved him as a kid. He 555 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: left a little to be desired in big games. He's 556 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: not as good in cold weather, Like that's something you 557 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: never forget. He's got eighty five MVPs, he won multiple championships, 558 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: like he had a top five career of all time 559 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: in NFL history. There's still things if you witnessed it, 560 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: you don't forget, right And that's like right now, Josh Allen, 561 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Like the fuck for whatever reason, they just can't not 562 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: all his fault, but they just can't. Something's missing against 563 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Maybe Lamar gets them. And if you beat Mahomes, 564 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: it's something that's a notch on your belt that no 565 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: one can ever take away. Okay, you guys know the drill. 566 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: It's that time of day again, Little Middlecoff mailbag. Fire 567 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: in my dms. It's my Instagram account at John Middlecoff 568 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: is my Instagram. Got two f's. Fire in those dms 569 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and get your question answered here on the podcast. We'll 570 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: start with Nathan. My wife is a huge Giants, so 571 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: I appreciated your intel on the Brian Dabole situation. No worries, 572 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: just here to pass along what I hear. But I 573 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: have a question about another topic. We live in Houston, 574 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: and I'm amazed to see the Texans turnaround this year. 575 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: I fully agree with Colin and your recent hypothesis on 576 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the importance of offensive head coaches. My question what do 577 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: you think of what Demiko is doing in Houston, specifically 578 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: with regards to sustainability in an offensive league. While easier 579 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: said than done, the combination of an elite defensive mind 580 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: motivator coupled with a young star quarterback seems ideal and 581 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: it has Houston excited for the first time. Also, Buddy's 582 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: golf trip to Scottsdale April eleventh through the fifteenth. In Scottsdale, 583 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: would love your thoughts on the best tracks. I'm a 584 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: two handicapped dude, can play. Would happy buy you around 585 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: in TPC? Well, hit me up, maybe I'll see you there. 586 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm a member there, so I'll just come out and 587 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: meet you need to pay for me. I would say 588 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: TPC Weekapal, Greyhawk are just and Truon are ones now. 589 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: They're pricey now, depending on that time of year, might 590 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: be a little cheaper. But I would say that's kind 591 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: of the group. TPC, Greyhawk, Troon and week A Paw 592 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: week A Paw. I think that's how you say it. 593 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: I would say, listen, there are certain guys that transcend 594 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: the offensive league, and Dimiko's one of those. I would 595 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: I would bet the house on Dimiko Ryans being a 596 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: good head coach. Obviously, he had an incredible year. He's 597 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: been an awesome coach since he started coaching six years ago. 598 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was born to do this, So 599 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: I would say he's an outlier in a situation. I 600 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: also think he has a unique relationship with the quarterback 601 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: because he used to being a team captain. Right, He's 602 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: a natural leader. I think sometimes the defensive guys can 603 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: be like the tough, gruff guy Demiko while a former linebacker. 604 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: I think he's just natural with people. And I think 605 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: that's why sometimes defensive head coaches butt heads with the 606 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: offensive guys, because defense is about violence and inflicting pain, 607 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: tackling people in space and sacking the quarterback, where offense 608 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: is about scheming. And I think Demko's kind of this 609 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: perfect blend. I bet the house on Dimigo Ryan. I'll 610 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: promise you that question for the bag. What are your 611 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: favorite bands? Artists? You strike me as a Metallica guy? Uh? 612 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Why is it so common that uh to say that 613 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: losing a quarterback played a better game this week? That's 614 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: all the talk about Jordan Love did. He, though one quarterback, 615 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: had more completions in yards, no turnovers compared to Love's too, 616 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: and led a game winning drive in the rain without 617 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: his top receiver. Not saying Purdy was great, he was 618 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: clearly off, but helped me understand the mindset. Also, if 619 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: you're ever in North Florida, bring your sticks. I'll take 620 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: you disc golfing. My musical taste, yeah a bit. I 621 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: like Metallica a lot, probably not as much as Dan Campbell, 622 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: but I'm I would tend to lean. I like everything. 623 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: I would say, there's if you're talented musician, like I 624 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: can listen to R and B. I can listen to rap, 625 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I can listen to country, I can listen to rock, 626 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: I can listen to old school stuff. I can listen 627 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: to motown. But I would say the two things that 628 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: I consistently listen to the most would be country music. 629 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I love country music and grunch like early mid nineties Nirvana, 630 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: Pearl Jam Alison, Chains, kind of that whole movement, right, 631 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: Chris Cornell anything he does sound Garden or Audio Slave. 632 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: I am big fan food fighters like. I like the grungy, 633 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: like a little punk rock. I loved rap as a kid. 634 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't listen to it as much now, but I 635 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: still I still throw on the ninety stuff. I don't 636 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: really vibe with a kind of newer hip hop. Maybe 637 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: it's just you know, I grew up Snoop, Eminem, Doctor Dre, 638 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of that crew guys E forty two short. So 639 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: it's like, if I'm gonna listen to hip hop. I'm 640 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: not as in the mix with the newer crew. Mumble 641 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: rap not really my thing. It feels like R and 642 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: B is dead, you know that kind of boyised men 643 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Era one twelve, Like I love R and B ry Carey, Whitney, Houston, 644 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. Fuck if you're talented, I 645 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: listened to you. I never understand people that claim they 646 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: really like music, but like, oh, I hate country music, 647 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: So no, no, you don't like all music. Like, there's 648 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: really really not a genre of music that I don't like, 649 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: besides maybe opera. I'm not an opera guy. But if 650 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: you have talent, I can listen to it. Long winded 651 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: way of saying, love the show. I followed you in 652 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: Colin religiously for numerous years. I'm a fast fan, live 653 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: in Montana, and yes, love football. I could be totally wrong, 654 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: but I want to see Buffalo win the Super Bowl. 655 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: In my humble opinion, they need to fire McDermott and 656 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: hire a guy who truly owns the division named Bill Belichick. 657 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: I believe he would love the challenge, give him the 658 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: chance to go against the crafts and wonderful for media 659 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: as he's back in he has a quarterback and can 660 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: set the win record in Buffalo. John, I'm out be 661 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: pretty cool now, Listen. I'm biased. I think Sean's pretty 662 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: good coach, and I think they're personnel decisions which he's 663 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: a big part of. Have let them down right, truly, 664 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: because he gets credit this year for firing Ken Dorsey 665 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: and going with Joe Brady. It was a huge swing 666 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: for that franchise. Joe Brady is better in Ken Dorsey, 667 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: like we all agree with that. But Bill Belichick's better 668 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: than Sean McDermott, Like you would rather have if the 669 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: teams are equal, Bill Belichick over Sean McDermott. I just 670 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen. And I do think you know, 671 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: from the ownership and you know, an organizational standpoint, it's 672 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: hard to just turn on him, right And I know 673 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: you've lost several times in this situation. But I was 674 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: listening today at the gym to Rosillo, and he was right, like, 675 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: you're ultimately losing to Mahomes who's better than you, Like 676 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: you're you're not losing to some equal or inferior opponent 677 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: like some people. Michael Jordan beat everybody in the nineties, 678 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: did that age poorly? Like Charles Barkley couldn't beat Michael Jordan, 679 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: Malone and Stockton couldn't beat Michael Jordan if they had 680 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: lost to some other randos like oh, you know, Clyde 681 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: drexor gotcha, and then we'd be like, eyeah, maybe they 682 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: weren't true champions. It's like, fuck, can't beat Michael Jordan. 683 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the club, right, So I was like, what 684 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: are they supposed to do? I do think it would 685 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: be cool and it'd be fun. I just I don't 686 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. Do you think perhaps some folks 687 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: are overreacting to the struggles with the Green Bay Packers? 688 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: To me, Kyle's decision to sit as second year quarterback 689 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: for the second consecutive two consecutive weeks heading into the playoffs? 690 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: Will they sat him? I get okay, I see what 691 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: we're saying Week eighteen in the bye week, and then 692 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: on top of that, establishing the run game early was 693 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: the real blunder here, not establishing the runner. I understand 694 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: how important health is down the stretch, but to me, 695 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: Brock isn't to the point where he can be expected 696 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: to sit twenty days and pick up right where he 697 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: left off. Obviously understanding sitting the guys like Kittle, McCaffrey, Warner, etc. 698 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: But wanted to get your thoughts on if you can 699 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: overrest young players. That game and that performance was not 700 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: about rest, was not about twenty days off. He couldn't 701 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: grip the football. He could not grip the ball. So 702 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: if you can't hit the if you can't grip the ball, 703 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you have no shot. Right And for whatever reason, this 704 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: guy in Rain has major issues if you're playing anyone 705 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: who listens dislikes golf, like when you play in the 706 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: US Open and the rough is really high, if you 707 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: can't hit the fairway, you will not win. You will lose. Hell, 708 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: you won't make the cut. You have to hit the 709 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: fairway right. In baseball, you eventually got to throw strikes. 710 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: He could not grip the ball. It was like a 711 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: basic part of the sport. So to me, it's hard 712 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: to even judge, like rusty or whatever, It's like he 713 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: had no clue where the ball was going. I saw 714 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: Steve Young tel Richison like he just had one of 715 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: the most efficient seasons in NFL history, So like I 716 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: actually it was pretty confident that he would look normal. 717 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: But I didn't understand or I understood it because I 718 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: saw it earlier this year. I guess I underestimated. I 719 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: can't grip the ball in water, Yes, just the fact, 720 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: so I think it's less about water. What would that 721 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: have changed like even if he had played every snap 722 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: against the Rams week eighteen, I think we get the 723 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: same outcome. I don't think it looks any different. Listener 724 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: from Maryland love the show as a Ravens fan. Both 725 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Monkin and McDonald most recently came from coaching college. It's 726 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: worked pretty well for us. Why don't more teams do 727 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: this well? I would say McDonald, I'm pretty sure if 728 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: we pull up his resume, he had been with you 729 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: guys for a while, so he had been in the NFL, 730 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: and then he only went with Jim Harbaugh for one year, 731 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: so he didn't spend that much time in college. Obviously, 732 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: Monkin was with Georgia, but he was in the NFL 733 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: before that as well, so he's bounced around a little 734 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: bit more. There was a rumor floating around yesterday that 735 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot of teams are interested in Chip Kelly to 736 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: be their offensive coordinator. That one is a head scratcher 737 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: to me, like, this is a twenty twelve. Did you 738 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: watch their quarterback situation this year? Kind of a disaster. 739 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: It was not good. The quarterback five star guy was terrible. 740 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: He immediately transfers and goes to Oregon. Their defense was good, 741 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: like they were a defensive team. So yeah, I mean, 742 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: if you have multiple backgrounds, totally understand being interested. Right, 743 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien can go both ways, mon can can go 744 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: both ways. Mintor and McDonald have coached at both levels. 745 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: But I think sometimes just because a guy is an 746 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: offensive guy, like is Cliff Kingsbury, should he be an 747 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: NFL offensive coordinator? I don't know. I understand why he 748 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: would rather be an offensive coordinator than a college offensive 749 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: coordinator because you don't want to recruit. But I think 750 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: teams do it, you know. I think I think when 751 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: you look around the NFL, you know, Harbaugh had Fangio 752 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: in at Stanford. You know Pete Carroll had a bunch 753 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: of NFL guys with him. The kind of go back 754 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: and forth. So I just think it depends. You know, 755 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: look at Nick Saban, right, Steve Sarkisian, who had been 756 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: a coordinator with the Atlanta Falcons, or excuse me, start 757 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: with him, and then he went to the Atlanta Falcons. 758 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: Obviously Billy O'Brien and Brian Dayball dougnass Meyer. So I 759 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: think Alabama's been doing it for a while, and Jim 760 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Harbaugh definitely does it. I guess we'd have to do 761 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: like a study, but I think it happens probably more 762 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: than you realize. Guy's kind of jumping back and forth. 763 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: The money's so big most spots, it's like whoever pays you? 764 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Moll more two part question. Should the Rams draft JJ 765 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy in the second or third round? I don't think 766 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: he'd make him the third round, sit him for two 767 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: or three years, and develop him under stafford. If not McCarthy, 768 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: then why not Justin Fields could definitely save his career 769 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: and take off the pressure. I think financially it makes 770 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: a much safer bet for Fields than going to Atlanta 771 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: or some other dysfunctional organization. It could really set him 772 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 1: up for success. Like Colin says, Chase great management, which 773 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: the Rams. I think any quarterback whose career is a 774 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: little off kilter should always want to go to rehab, 775 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: should always immediately want to do that, right Like Sam Donald, 776 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: I think. Kyle said last week that Sam Donald turned 777 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: down bad teams offering him more money to come to rehab. 778 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: Carson went signing with Sean McVay last year. Baker Mayfield 779 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: and Sean McVay. Any young quarterback in a weird spot 780 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: should want a piece of Andy Reid. If the Patriots 781 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: are gonna get rid of mac Jones, mac Jones should 782 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: beg Andy Reid to give him a job. Beg him, 783 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: or Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan, beg them. So I'm 784 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: with you, But a lot of guys don't think like that, 785 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: and some people have to be humbled before they it's 786 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: easier to cross their mind, which I understand. Like part 787 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: of being a starting quarterback, there's an ego and a 788 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: mindset that comes with that. It's hard to turn off. 789 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: Field is going to be a fascinating case study. You 790 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: can tell them he gets traded for a second round pick, 791 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: and you can tell me he gets traded for like 792 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: two because when you factor in his contract, like I think, 793 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: we've seen recent mistakes of people making those trades. Sam 794 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: Darnold was a good example. The Panthers traded for him. 795 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: They picked up his fifth year option. They gave him 796 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: a second round pick and they paid him a lot 797 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: of money. Same thing happened with Baker Mayfield picked up. 798 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: As you know, the Browns ate some of that money. 799 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: But it's the money aspect of everything complicates things. Why 800 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: do you assume Dan Campbell and the Lions offense will 801 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: regress if we lose Ben Johnson. Goff's numbers actually improved 802 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: the second half of the first season when Campbell called 803 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: the plays. I think if Ben goes, I think he's 804 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: going we will be just fine. Listen, I think we 805 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that Ben Johnson is an elite coordinator. 806 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be a good head coach? No clue. 807 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: There is no guarantee going from a play caller running 808 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 1: half the team to being a good head coach. It's proven, 809 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: there is no no correlation. We have seen guys that 810 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: have never been an offensive defensive coordinator, Andy Reid, John 811 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: Harbaugh be excellent coaches. Guys that have never called plays 812 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: before in their life. Jim Harbaugh be a good coach. 813 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: But I think it is fair to wonder, like, is 814 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell as good of an offensive coordinator as Ben Johnson? 815 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's not, but as of right now, 816 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: I think that would be a remarkable achievement, and we 817 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: would talk about Dan Campbell immediately, like what the hell 818 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: is if he can call plays like Ben Johnson's call 819 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: him plays and lead the group like he leads. I mean, 820 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: he's just a bigger version of Sean McVay, Kyle Shanaya. 821 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, let's call spade a spade there. So I 822 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: agree he is not Sirianni. I would rather have Dan 823 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: Campbell than Nick Sirianni every day of the week and 824 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: twice on Sundays, not arguing. Mentioned it on the podcast earlier, 825 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: not disputing that, but I do think it's fair to 826 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: say that Ben Johnson might be a better play caller 827 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: than him. Maybe they're so loaded now it doesn't really 828 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: matter right that they're the talent on their team with Gibbs, Laporta, 829 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Jameson Williams gives them the deep threat the 830 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: offensive line. Goff, Why is the talk surrounding brock Purty 831 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 1: so much different than talk surrounding almost every other quarterback 832 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: in the league. I'll use the Packers game as an example. 833 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: After the game, all the talk around Jordan Love was 834 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: immensely positive and framed as Love is a young stud 835 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: who has a lot of promise. He made some mistakes, 836 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: but he has a young and bright future. Meanwhile, the 837 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: talk about Purty was almost exclusively look at all the limitations. 838 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: He can't play in the rain and is holding his 839 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: team back. Yeah, he made a game winning drive, but 840 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: what was really all Shanahan and lucky catches by the 841 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: receivers was an incredible catch by Brandon Aiyuk. We should 842 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: be concerned about the Niners moving forward. Before I finished 843 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: the rest of your question, because in a vacuum, Jordan 844 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: Love has physical attributes that Brock Purty does not. He 845 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: can throw the ball in the rain and at a 846 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: velocity that Brock Purry simply can't. I've said forever like 847 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm a big arm quarterback. I grew up you know 848 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: in Pat Hill and Andy Reid. I like traits, so 849 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: brock Purdy would not be my cup of tea. But 850 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: once you play, and you play well, I can't acknowledge 851 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: he's a really good player. But if you told me 852 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: bet on one, if I have both teams have Kyle 853 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: Shanahan or Matt Lafour, so I know I get a 854 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: good coach, I would take the guy with more traits. 855 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean there are things that Purdy doesn't do 856 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: better than Jordan Love. But this notion of like one 857 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: guy threw picks, one guy's didn't throw any couldn't you 858 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: argue interceptions or a little random Purty hit Savage in 859 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: the fucking hands, literally dotted him right in the numbers. 860 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: He would have walked into the end zone, hit him 861 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: in the hands. He dropped it. It couldn't have been 862 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: a worse pass. The passes all night, part of not 863 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: playing well in weather is pretty concerning. So yeah, he 864 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 1: threw two picks that got caught by Drake Greenlaw. Pretty 865 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: could have thrown four. They didn't get caught. So listen, 866 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: I think it's simply of like you're betting on a 867 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: tools guy if you did the exercise. They pick up 868 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: the phone and they say Jordan Love for Brock Purty 869 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: straight up. Kyle and Laflour get on the phone. Matt 870 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: Lafleur says no, so fast your headspins. Kyle Shanahan might 871 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 1: still say no. Him and John Lynch have a beating, 872 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: and there are gonna be people in the forty nine 873 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: ers that would support that. Now, listen, there are things 874 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 1: that you can't quantify with brock Purty that is part 875 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: of being a quarterback, from a mental toughness standpoint to 876 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: ability to battle through when he's playing shitty because he 877 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 1: was really bad, Like, how can anyone watch that game? 878 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: Just watch that game and go, God, you know, game 879 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: winning drive, the game winning drive. I hit a couple 880 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: of passes which were impressive, but the reason they were 881 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: in that position is because the were flying all over 882 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 1: the place. He was horrendous. Kyle was even worse. Kyle, 883 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: in a weird way, was worse than Party in that game. 884 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting increasingly more frustrated with narratives surrounding him due 885 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: to him constantly moving the goalpost. No one's moving the 886 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: goal post. He's a pro bowler. He almost won the MVP, 887 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: and then he had a horrendous playoff game, fucking horrendous. 888 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: No one was voting Jordan Love. Jordan Love didn't make 889 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Jordan Love. No one put him in 890 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: the MVP discussion. I mean, he wasn't a ten point 891 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: favorite at home, and he can't grip the ball. One 892 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: thing one thing that I appreciate about Philly is like 893 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: they can be overly negative, but like when it's pretty clear, 894 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: like everyone's on the same page. One problem with the 895 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: forty nine er fan base sometimes is it is like, 896 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: and this is just the West Coast fan base. There's 897 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot of like glass half full, very positive people, 898 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: which I respect. I try to be that way too, 899 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: but like you always get pushed back when things turn negative, 900 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: even when they're clearly negative. It's like, give him the 901 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Well it did after a couple series, 902 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: and then it just kept going on and on and 903 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: on and on and on. I mean, what are we 904 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: talking about, Like, there's no this isn't a narrative. The 905 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: game happened. I like Brock Purdy, I have nothing but 906 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: admiration for his so far his career and how well 907 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: he's played that game against the Packers, Separating from what 908 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: he's overcome, picked two sixty two starting quarterback back to 909 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: back NFC championship games, the stats he put up this year, 910 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 1: how explosive he was during the season. That game was shitty. 911 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: There's no other way to put it. Kyle Shanahan, that game, 912 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: he was bad. He was bad. It happens. Tiger Woods 913 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: doesn't shoot under par every round. And I'm not saying 914 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: either one of those guys Tiger Woods, but you know 915 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, you're allowed to have bad games, 916 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: but when you have bad games, we can acknowledge it. 917 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's getting crushed and he was awesome in freezing 918 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: cold temperatures. I think it's fair to go like, why 919 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: can't back pretty grip the ball in the in the rain? 920 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: How does that make any It doesn't make any sense, 921 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: but he can't. Uh. One thing I never understood with 922 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: these big quarterback contracts is there sort of handcuffs the 923 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: cap I understand from your pods, but they can manipulate 924 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: the cap hits, but the bill eventually comes due, So like, 925 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just take less money and let the 926 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: organization build an insane football team around them? Is it greed? 927 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: So like the Bengals have Chase and Higgins that they 928 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: want to keep around them, but Chase needs an insane 929 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: contract and Burrow has been paid, so like, sorry, Higgs 930 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: hit the bricks right, Like why not just take less 931 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: money and keep rolling? Well? Because I think Joe Burrow 932 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: or Mahomes or anybody that's not Tom Brady would go like, 933 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: that's not my problem. You're paying the GM to build 934 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: a football team, right, And I know you can manipulate 935 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: the cap like these last couple of years, Josh Allen's 936 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 1: cap hit has all been in the teens. So it's 937 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 1: on Brandon Bean. He's getting paid millions of dollars. Figure 938 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 1: that shit out. I'm not the GM, this is not 939 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: the NBA. I'm not Lebron. I'm not mandating you sign people. 940 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: You do the best job, like that's that's the coach 941 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: in the GM's job, right And ultimately, I take a 942 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: little less. You're still manipulating the cap no matter what. 943 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: So and at any moment in this sport, you can 944 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: just get your leg shattered, right. I mean we all 945 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: see the the commercial with Alex Smith. I mean that's 946 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, but it does happen. You just your 947 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: career can end. You can never be the same, You 948 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: can tear something that never recovers. So and plus, here's 949 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is the agent. The players 950 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: are not having these conversations. It's the agent. And I'm 951 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: not trying to shit on agents because there are some 952 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: good ones and obviously you need people to represent you. 953 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: When you don't know anything about contracts. But they are 954 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: incentivized to get the most money humanly possible, so they 955 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: make the most money humanly possible. Right, so their incentives 956 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: don't lie with the team and the success. While the 957 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: players even somewhat does right their incentives strictly for the money. 958 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: That's not debatable question. When the NFL season is over, 959 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: will you continue the podcast about offseason needs and move 960 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: into a little NBA even though no, no NBA. We 961 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: will do football three sixty five and we will mix 962 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: in golf. You know what's crazy is like I went 963 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: on my guy Ethan Strauss's podcast because he crushed the 964 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: NBA for the raate. I just don't watch the NBA anymore. 965 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: And I've watched it my entire life. I've watched it's 966 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: already almost February. I haven't watched the game start to finish. 967 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: So I watch football and I watch golf. That's you know, 968 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy as you get older in life. You know, 969 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: I used to watch so much sports in my teens 970 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: and my twenties, even even five five years ago when 971 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: I worked in local radio, Watch every Warrior game, watch 972 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: every Giants game. You couldn't pay me to do that 973 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: stuff right now, And luckily I can make a lot 974 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: of money doing what I'm doing now because I can't 975 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: watch things that I don't want to watch. I mean 976 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: I can't now. There are some nights I don't want 977 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: to watch Thursday night football, but it's still football, and 978 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: I still know everyone else is watching. So I've kind 979 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 1: of I'm just not your NBA guy, you know, And 980 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge even though and I told a 981 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: couple people this, I still consume a lot of basketball content, 982 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: you know. I listen to some podcasts. I just don't 983 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: watch the games and seeing the ratings, most people don't either, 984 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: So I I just talk about what I like. And 985 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm just a huge golf guy. I gamble on golf. 986 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: So we'll do PGA Tour, Go Low stuff as the 987 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: football season ends, and we'll do football, you know, through 988 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 1: the free agency, through the draft and like we do 989 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: every year. So yeah, the podcast will not slow down 990 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: at all. But it's it's hard for me to talk 991 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: about these other sports that I'm not watching, you know, 992 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: I'm not This isn't first take. I'm not trying to 993 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: just include everything. We're just and I'm playing that you know, football, 994 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: luckily a lot of people care about it. But we'll 995 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: do that. Golf's a little bit of a passion project though. 996 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: I got some ideas from my YouTube channel, but other 997 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: than that, we might try to expand a little bit 998 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: golf whise with some interviews. I love gambling on golf. 999 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge I've gambled on every golf 1000 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: tournament so far this year. Can't help it. I told 1001 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: myself I wasn't going to it till football started or ended, 1002 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: and then I just I keep winning, keep hitting some 1003 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: top tens. Been listening to you for a while now. 1004 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: I've noticed a point that you repeatedly emphasize in the 1005 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: teams should not be hiring head coaches that do not 1006 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: call plays. Young head coaches. Young head coaches like if 1007 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's available, or John Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin or 1008 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh totally get it. I cannot hire a forty 1009 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: three year old. I cannot hire Robert Sala or Nick 1010 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: Sirianni at forty two years old, and they can't call plays. 1011 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I generally agree. However, I know 1012 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: you are defender of Dan Campbell. He called plays two 1013 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: years ago, and then he gave it to Ben Johnson. 1014 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 1: So like the guy that emailed earlier, like he called 1015 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: plays and actually improved. I think he fired Anthony Lynn 1016 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: or demoted Anthony Lynn during the season, maybe kicked him 1017 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: off a staff. I can't totally remember, but like he 1018 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: has shown he can do that, Nick Sirianna can't. He 1019 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: demoted himself. My issue is young coaches. If I'm gonna 1020 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: hire a guy, i'd argue under fifty, I'm hiring you 1021 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: because you were just a coordinator. Then you just become 1022 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: the CEO. It's actually easier to be the CEO because 1023 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: you can ball, because you can blame other people. It's like, oh, 1024 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: it's not my problem to get on the coordinator. What 1025 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: offseason moves do the Packers need to make to get 1026 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: them over the hump and be an elite playoff contender. Well, 1027 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: I saw a headline the day that that uh, Matt 1028 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: Lafleur wouldn't commit to Joe Barry. So this always gets 1029 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: to before we make moves, who's our coaches some of 1030 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: these some of the teams don't have head coach right now, 1031 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: so I can't talk about anything with the organization. You 1032 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 1: got a head coach. I think the Packers, we're gonna 1033 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: look squarely at defense. Was Joe Berry coming back? Are 1034 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: they firing Joe Berry and they're getting a new defensive coordinator? 1035 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: Because then I think that changes. Well, they get a 1036 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, what scheme does he run? What type 1037 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: players does he like? So before we can say, well, 1038 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: they need to get this player who's calling the defensive plays, 1039 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: and until we know Joe berry status, which I think 1040 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: is fair to say is up in the air, then yeah. 1041 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan watching the Ravens dismantled the Texans 1042 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: the high pressure plaoff game, and I keep asking myself, 1043 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: how on earth does anyone in the Bears management or 1044 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff think we can't compete with these guys? 1045 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: And how does my idiotic fan base think drafting a 1046 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver will be the difference maker? Keep Justin fields er, 1047 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: trade him, draft Caleb or don't hire the best staff, 1048 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: or don't we have zero shot unless we land a 1049 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: stellar coach like Jim Harbaugh who can button up our 1050 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: squad and bring a winning culture and mentality. How come 1051 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: teams like the Ravens and even historically pitiful Texans can 1052 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: get out of their own way and become great, while 1053 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: the Bears can't swallow their pride and open their wallets 1054 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: to get the best coaching and quarterback duo in Harbon 1055 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: Caleb in decades and at least have a chance to compete. 1056 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: I think this gets back to the setup in that organization. 1057 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: Once they name Kevin Warren the president and everyone answers 1058 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: to him that he's not gonna want to change it. 1059 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: He wants to get people that can function under him. 1060 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: I heard Michael Lombardi or maybe Bill Simmons or someone 1061 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: talking like, why do the Atlanta Falcons keep interviewing all 1062 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: these other people? Well, if you're Rich McKay and Terry font, 1063 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: now do you want Bill Belichick in your building? Of 1064 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: course not. Who do you think Arthur Blank's gonna listen 1065 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: to if he hires Bill Belichick as their coach? Those guys' opinions, Hey, hey, Arthur, 1066 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: this is Rich McKay. I got a couple philosophical beliefs 1067 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: on football that I think we should implement to our team. 1068 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: Or you think they're gonna listen to Bill? So, of 1069 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: course that they're interviewing all these coordinators because once you 1070 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: hire a coordinator, even if he's a highly thought of coordinator, 1071 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: they are going to have to answer people, and they will. 1072 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: Bill won't. So I think this gets back to the Bears. 1073 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: If they would have fired him, there would have been 1074 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure to go hire Jim Harbaugh. Well, 1075 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: we already know that Jim Harbaugh can't stand Kevin Warren 1076 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: because Kevin Warren wanted to can't football what he wanted 1077 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: to do, which aged about as poorly as some milk 1078 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: when you leave it outside. Jim Harbaugh can't stand that guy. 1079 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: I actually think a lot of football administrators, right commissioners, 1080 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: those guys in college football I would red flag. I 1081 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to work with them either. Now there doesn't 1082 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: mean there aren't some good ones. Clearly, Greg Sankees pretty impressive, right, 1083 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: But we have a long line of seeing guys like 1084 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd trust that guy from Larry 1085 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Scott to that guy, And now that guy gets to 1086 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: run an NFL team, it seems insane to me. The 1087 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: GM has to answer to that guy. Ryan Poles, who 1088 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: learned under Andy Reid and Brett Veach and John Dorsey, 1089 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 1: answers to that guy. So it starts at the top, 1090 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: and the owners allow the shit to happen, and then 1091 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: they find themselves in these situations. If you tell me 1092 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: at the combine that Kevin Warren is in the room, 1093 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I won't be shocked at all. Will not be shocked 1094 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: at all if at the combine Kevin Warren is part 1095 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: of these interviews, so he can go back to the 1096 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: ownership and tell him his opinion, even though if that 1097 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: guy fails, he'll blame the coach in the gym, it's 1098 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: it's the most incredible spot to be in. That's where 1099 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: Belichick's that everything's on their plate. Pete Carroll, Andy Reid. 1100 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: We get to run football, so when anything fails, it's 1101 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: it's on us. But when we succeed, it's also us. 1102 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: You don't get to take the credit. Owner does, but 1103 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: not some president guy. I mean, we're all we're all 1104 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 1: in this together, but you don't get to like dip 1105 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: your toe in half in, half out. Either do the 1106 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: business stuff and separate, or just basically be the pseudo 1107 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: general manager because that's what you want to do, because 1108 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: that's how you get famous in football. So I think 1109 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 1: it gets back to the Bears, you know, the way 1110 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: they've set up their organization something that you think the 1111 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: charges are dealing with right now. It'd be very interesting 1112 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: to hear some of these conversations with Jim Harbaugh and 1113 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the Spanos family, like I don't want to answer her day, 1114 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: this is my baby, this is what I want to do, 1115 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: which is risky too, because some coaches can do weird 1116 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: stuff when it comes to draft the volume