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Speaker 1: Welcome in text and all access. I'm in D clude,

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Speaker 1: joined by Drew Doherty and the OG himself, Mark vander Ogg.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether to be flattered or how I

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Speaker 1: You know what? How about this? And maybe this isn't original?

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Speaker 1: How about the O V?

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Speaker 3: The O V?

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, it sounds kind of like an OBG

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Speaker 2: white like ovarian.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't like it at all for Meg's original

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Speaker 3: gangster original voice. There you go or original.

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Speaker 2: So one of the guys down the hall because we

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Speaker 2: have the national championship here, so we have all this

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Speaker 2: extra security this week, and one of the guys knows

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Speaker 2: me from whatever, and he said V O T And

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking Voice of the Texans.

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Speaker 3: That's an acron. That is not bad feeling that one, sir.

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Speaker 3: I like that V O T or O V.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to do a vote one day in

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Speaker 1: which one you're gonna get tatted on your chest.

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Speaker 2: I know, And I can't do it myself, so nobody's

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Speaker 2: gonna have to decide for me.

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Speaker 3: Then I'll get the tattoo.

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Speaker 4: He has a dragon with double D breast on his back.

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Speaker 3: Oh get it right, it's a gigantic eagle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like some of the Philly fans that

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Speaker 1: I used to see back in the day. But speaking

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Speaker 1: of fans, the fans here in Houston definitely excited. Not

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Speaker 1: only did the Houston Texas secure that winning season, but

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Speaker 1: we're actually playing meaningful football in January.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot and ND you never played in

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Speaker 2: the seventeen game season, so for your body clock, this

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Speaker 2: has to be what it is for me really, because

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Speaker 2: the Texans have never had this playoff opportunity in a

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Speaker 2: seventeen game season because we've only had a couple of

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Speaker 2: years of it. It feels like a playoff game because

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Speaker 2: it is win or go home, and it is the

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Speaker 2: first weekend in January, non New Year's weekend, and that's

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Speaker 2: how it's traditionally been in a sixteen game season.

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Speaker 1: No, it's absolutely a playoff game. And as far as

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Speaker 1: it being week seventeen, they're just going to adjust the

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Speaker 1: adrenaline the excitement of the game. I don't think any guy,

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Speaker 1: no matter what pains they're suffering through, is going to

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Speaker 1: be thinking to themselves how late in the season is

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Speaker 1: They're just thinking we have to get this victory and

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Speaker 1: get into the quote unquote real playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Think about how wild this whole scenario is. So the

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Speaker 4: next to last game last year, you play a divisional

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Speaker 4: opponent and you get blasted. It was either New Year's

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Speaker 4: DA or New Year's Eve Jacksonville against the Jaguars. They

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Speaker 4: kill you. So you have to go to Indianapolis to

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Speaker 4: finish your season. Last year you headed into Indianapolis two

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Speaker 4: thirteen and one dark dark times. This year you blast

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Speaker 4: the divisional opponent, you only give up three. You would

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Speaker 4: only scored last three last year, and now you're headed

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Speaker 4: to Indy. And if you took all the ramifications draft

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Speaker 4: wise out of last year's matchup and just watch that

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Speaker 4: game clinically, you'd been like, that's a great game. That's

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Speaker 4: a heck of a It's a back and forth. There's

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Speaker 4: stuff at the end. You know, the fourth and longs

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Speaker 4: two of them, and they can and now a year

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Speaker 4: later they're playing for the playoffs. When both teams were

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Speaker 4: jockeying for one, two, three or four in the draft order.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you think about the direction of the team,

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Speaker 1: I know before the season not to keep my standards

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Speaker 1: too low. My thought, man, if they could get six

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Speaker 1: or seven wins, that would be an awesome year. And

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Speaker 1: now we're sitting at nine wins and actually playing for

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Speaker 1: a playoff. And when you listen to Jamiko, when you

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Speaker 1: hear him talk, when you see him away from the cameras,

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Speaker 1: the microphone, he's not sitting back, putting his feet on

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Speaker 1: the table saying I've done my job. If he doesn't

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Speaker 1: been a failure for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think for you, as a former player, I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to you from this angle, which is

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Speaker 2: you don't get this very often. Look, if you're the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Patriots, certain teams, the Eagles, now maybe

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't have to list all of them,

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Speaker 2: but you have to take advantage of every time you

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Speaker 2: take advantage of that. Here's the other aspect. You have

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Speaker 2: all these one year free agents and strata speaking about

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Speaker 2: them sort of, Hey, we want to make them most

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Speaker 2: of this because we have these guys here. Whatever this

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Speaker 1: No matter how you want to romanticize it and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're going to bring this guy back, bring that guy back.

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Speaker 1: There's so many guys like you mentioned Mark on these

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Speaker 1: one year deals that have meant so much for this season.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is they need to bring in some

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Speaker 1: miss out on some of those. So with what you

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Speaker 1: mentioned about CJ. Stroud, I've been through it where and

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. The cool thing about even with a

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Speaker 1: young NFL team, they all know this is a business.

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Speaker 1: When they're in the locker room and they're looking around

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Speaker 1: and they really enjoy one another, they know that it's

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Speaker 1: gonna look different. So they want to get as much

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Speaker 1: get They want to ride that way for as long

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Speaker 1: things that's going to motivate them going against the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable here in Stroud say that, not remarkable,

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Speaker 4: but a reminder. Nobody's thinking about the future around here.

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Speaker 4: They're thinking about right now. And I think we all

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Speaker 4: would agree this team was gonna be better and markedly

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Speaker 4: better than what it was last year. I wasn't stunned

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Speaker 4: once we got to about mid July, late July. I'm

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Speaker 4: not stunned by what we're seeing now because I thought that,

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Speaker 4: you know, they could be pretty really yeah wait wait

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Speaker 4: July four. Yes, I started to run OTAs. I started

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Speaker 4: having a feeling that was very similar to the feeling

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Speaker 4: that kind of came on in November December of eleven

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Speaker 4: of the two thousand and eight. This felt like the

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Speaker 4: eleven bunch because Demiko was here as a likable team.

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Speaker 4: Theres looked like there were gonna be weapons, looked like

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Speaker 4: the defense was gonna be a lot better, and everyone

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Speaker 4: was sleeping on that eleven bunch because the ten team

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Speaker 4: it's different, but I started having feelings like this feels

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Speaker 4: similar to eleven. I don't know they're gonna win and

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Speaker 4: be a playoff team, but it's gonna feel like a

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Speaker 4: kind of rejuvenation, which is what we saw back then.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I felt good about this team in

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Speaker 1: the summer if they were quote unquote healthy. If you

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Speaker 1: told me Damian Pierce wouldn't be the same Damian Pierce

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Speaker 1: we saw last year. If you told me that you

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Speaker 1: I would have thought, oh, here we go again. But

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Speaker 1: even with those things, even with that being said, for

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Speaker 1: them to have the success that they've had, that's a

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Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for me. I wish I could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Demiko's my boy. I knew, no matter what, you know,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna go out there and have a chance

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Speaker 1: to play for a playoff game in the last regular

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Speaker 1: season game. But once you factor in the injuries, especially

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, that's where I feel like, to me,

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Speaker 1: and this is coming from a defensive lineman, I feel

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Speaker 1: like the most important position group outside of your quarterback

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Speaker 1: room on a team is your offensive line. And if

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Speaker 1: you told me that they were gonna be shuffling the

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Speaker 1: way they were, I would have thought, oh, okay, well

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Speaker 1: maybe the next season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and more shuffling the last game. Right when you

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Speaker 2: look at they didn't even have fan on the team

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Speaker 2: during Ota, Yeah, right, And then you think about Scotty

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Speaker 2: Quessenberry going down, going through four centers and all of that.

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Speaker 2: You just never expected stuff like that. But as far

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Speaker 2: as whether the team's good and how much better they

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Speaker 2: are look going from twenty twenty one into twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: I thought that team would be a lot better. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know how much better the record would be, because

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Speaker 2: you never know. They got blown out in so many

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Speaker 2: games in twenty one, and they were better. I think

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Speaker 2: they were a better team last year than they were

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Speaker 2: the year before, even though they won one less game

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Speaker 2: and they had that tie because they had many more

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Speaker 3: They're right there with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: They're right there with the Cowboys several other instances, Denver, Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to list them all.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were a better team last year than

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Speaker 2: the year before, but the record didn't reflect it. So

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Speaker 2: this year, I thought they're gonna be better than they

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Speaker 2: were in twenty twenty two. But how much better will

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Speaker 2: the record be? I thought if they double the win total,

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Speaker 2: go to six, maybe seven, that'd be really cool. Can

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Speaker 2: we flirt with eight down the stretch? And here they are,

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Speaker 2: like you said, ND, they're sitting at nine. They could

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Speaker 2: go to ten and get into the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Pinch me.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable that this has happened, and I give

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Speaker 2: credit to so many people. I think Demiko Rans is

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Speaker 2: really number one.

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Speaker 3: CJ. Strout has been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Probably makes it doesn't Probably it makes a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: But it all starts at the top here with the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a little bit above that. Okay, it

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Speaker 1: starts with ownership.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't me. They made the move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't pandering. But on draft day, I'm going

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Speaker 1: back to the excitement of draft day. And I've told

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Speaker 1: the story once or twice before.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of why I think it's been like this,

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Speaker 4: because that wave that EBB has not died, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's diminished slightly because it's never gonna be the

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Speaker 4: same as that night. But that's what's driven a lot

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Speaker 4: of this this optimism for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, and that's that's when it's really truly started

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Speaker 1: for me. So they draft CJ. Stroud, We were somewhat

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Speaker 1: expecting that. When you know, if you want to debate

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Speaker 1: who they were looking at, it doesn't matter. They drafted

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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud. So you're excited about that. And I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. I'm at the Texan event. I forgot exactly

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Speaker 1: what I was doing on Draft Day and I looked

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Speaker 1: at my phone and my son who was with me, said, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Texans moved up. They have another pick, and I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. And I still need to apologize to him

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Speaker 1: when I said, you idiot, quit looking at social media.

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Speaker 3: There's no way they're drafting. There's no way they're drafting again. Right.

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 1: So I go back to doing what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: And then I hear the crowd roar because at that

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Speaker 1: event they mentioned the trade and the Texans moved up,

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Speaker 1: and when they selected Will Anderson, I didn't care if

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Speaker 1: it worked or not. I just said, you know what

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Speaker 1: to make that type of aggressive move. Things are changing,

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Speaker 1: Things are changing for the better. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: pulled the trigger, but you know, somebody upstairs from here.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I felt like things have changed, regardless

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Speaker 1: just knew it was gonna be a new day here.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember rookies being voted as captains around here.

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Speaker 1: Know, No, that was my you know, obviously I played

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Speaker 4: This year. And that's how wild that is.

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Speaker 4: The coach naming, right, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up ownership because hiring Demico in

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Speaker 3: Nick's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Sign I gotta I want to sign Dalton Schultz, even

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Speaker 4: Tart and let's do let's do another thing. Let's remind

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Speaker 4: Captain's enormous, enormous pickups who have been big time reasons

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Speaker 3: That's how you build a team.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's always cool to have that one

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Speaker 1: Like that's how you build teams. You don't just go

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Speaker 3: I love your personal campaign to get Jjo into the

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Speaker 3: Ring of Honor. By the way, I've heard this before.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this about j Joe, and I'm a little

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Speaker 3: Long he's the greatest corner to ever play here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you you hear that, You're like, is that right?

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Speaker 3: And he still has the interception record. But if Kareem

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Speaker 4: He breaks both of those records because he's one behind

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Speaker 2: Self, I'll take two pick sixes. On Saturday.

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Speaker 4: After the game, I was like, hey, because I was

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Speaker 2: Well, I heard that interview. I played that interview, and

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Speaker 2: they we're talking about all right, what's this one? Where

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Speaker 2: He's getting it right as he's going because he's brand

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Speaker 1: That's humbling when when you've been somewhere for so long,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've been looking on the business off side

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Speaker 3: The aging, Hey, I got an offer from.

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Speaker 2: I got another one since we have a former player

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Speaker 1: are you know, out playing them. And I think he

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Speaker 1: landed in Arizona with the Cardinals and he's having some

436
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Speaker 1: success there. But my point is with the Khalil Davises

437
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Speaker 1: of the world, I think those are going to be

438
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Speaker 1: the guys that they're not going to give you any

439
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Speaker 1: kind of discount, But he's going to appreciate when when

440
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Speaker 1: and if, you know, I don't want to speak over

441
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Speaker 1: my you know, position, When and if the Texans come

442
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Speaker 1: to him and offer him something, he's going to remember, like,

443
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Speaker 1: you know what, I was playing in the USFL and

444
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Speaker 1: they gave me a chance not just to be a campbody,

445
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Speaker 1: but to actually, you know, make the team, be a

446
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Speaker 1: part of the team. So he's a He's a guy

447
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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be surprised if you see a three

448
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Speaker 1: to four year, very team friendly type deal and it's

449
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Speaker 1: going to continue to make the team better like a

450
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Speaker 1: elite Collins.

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting in that whole position group, whether it's

452
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Speaker 2: and or inside, because in the last three years, we've

453
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Speaker 2: seen a lot of guys roll through here and guys

454
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Speaker 2: who have made plays. Jalil Johnson's on the Titans now,

455
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Speaker 2: Taylor Stalworth was here for fifteen minutes. He made plays

456
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Speaker 2: while he was here. Ross Blacklock on the Titans. By

457
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Speaker 2: the way, that's a weird dynamic having all those former Texans.

458
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Speaker 2: They get Garrett Wallows in the lineup, but we've got Tarred.

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Speaker 3: It's just bizarro world.

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Speaker 2: Never mind all the coaches that the Titans have former

461
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Speaker 2: Texans employed Reunion in Nashville. I mean I just scanned

462
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Speaker 2: through that coaching roster and it's wild.

463
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Speaker 3: I mean it's all over the.

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Speaker 2: Place, including Pat O'Hara, who is in all those Hollywood

465
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Speaker 2: movies and you know I'm obsessed with him.

466
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Speaker 1: Well, if they're gonna steal the oiler colors, they said,

467
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Speaker 1: am I so steal some coaches and some players that

468
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Speaker 1: go along with it. But no, no, I think he's

469
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Speaker 1: just familiar. He being veryble familiar with a lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys, and when you're in the NFL, you want

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Speaker 1: guys that you can trust.

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Speaker 2: It's the division thing too, because my kid was asking

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Speaker 2: me the other day, he said, well, why do teams

474
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Speaker 2: sign players in their division. I'm glad you asked, son,

475
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Speaker 2: because you're watching more tape from teams in your division.

476
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Speaker 2: So you see those players playing the teams that you're

477
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Speaker 2: gonna play. You see their team twice a year, you

478
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Speaker 2: see the other teams that they face, so you see

479
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Speaker 2: them on tape constantly, and you feel like they're family

480
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Speaker 2: and that's why they bring in And I noticed it

481
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Speaker 2: all the time. Patriots will bring him former Jets and Dolphins,

482
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Speaker 2: vice versa. You see it in the NFC East, you

483
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Speaker 2: see it in every division.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you bring that up.

485
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Speaker 1: Because I went from So I was drafted by then

486
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Speaker 1: my second year, I was released. I was cut, I

487
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Speaker 1: was fired, I was kicked out of the door, and

488
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Speaker 1: then Washington picked me up and I'll never forget. Norv

489
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, we watched all your preseason games. What happened.

490
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Speaker 1: And then after three years in Washington, I go back

491
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Speaker 1: to Philly and they're like, hey, we love what we

492
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Speaker 1: was all film. So it's just like you said, And

493
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Speaker 1: it's not just the actual scouting, it's just when you're

494
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Speaker 1: you know, watching and getting ready for a game. If

495
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Speaker 1: guys continue to show up within the division, you're more

496
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Speaker 1: likely to stay within the division.

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Speaker 2: I can't do a show with you without like interviewing

498
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Speaker 2: you a part of the time. How was it, How

499
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Speaker 2: did it feel when you got back to Texas to

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Speaker 2: play here?

501
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Speaker 3: Because from San Antonio that.

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Speaker 1: Was dream come true, not just being from San Antonio,

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Speaker 1: but going to Rice. Even when I was playing in Philly,

504
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Speaker 1: my house was in Missouri City. Like I'm a Houstonian,

505
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Speaker 1: so I'm a Houston first. So for me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I always tell everyone that Michael Strahan, that the way

507
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Speaker 1: he retired is the outlier. That's how you write it

508
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Speaker 1: in a fiction story. But for me, it felt like

509
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Speaker 1: a dream come true to play my last three years.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, in my hometown that my parents come to

511
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Speaker 1: the games. After the game, I would actually go to

512
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Speaker 1: my parents' house, eat some homemade food, and it was

513
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Speaker 1: just a beautiful Uh way for me to end my career.

514
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Speaker 1: Then coach Kubiak, I can't say enough positive things about him.

515
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Speaker 1: Just to play for a guy like that. There's a

516
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Speaker 1: reason why Demiko called him up, you know, as soon

517
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Speaker 1: as he was hired. There's a reason why you can't

518
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Speaker 1: find a player to say anything negative about Kubiak.

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Speaker 3: So for me personally, it was just a great way

520
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Speaker 3: to end the career.

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Speaker 4: It is random. Why did you choose Missouri City before

522
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Speaker 4: you even played here? I know there's there's a lot

523
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Speaker 4: of current and former athletes that live there, but what

524
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Speaker 4: was your reason for Missouri City?

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Speaker 1: You know, the land then was cheap. You know, you

526
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Speaker 1: get you're sitting on an acre, and.

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Speaker 4: But how'd you hear about it? I mean, being in

528
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Speaker 4: Philly washed in all those plays.

529
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Speaker 1: So when I was in Philly, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: My brother in law or ex brother in law at

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Speaker 1: the time, was a realtor and he was just showing

532
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Speaker 1: my family around when I was still in Philly, and

533
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Speaker 1: then when I saw the piece of land, just kind

534
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Speaker 1: of fell in love with it. Lebard Latham was my

535
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Speaker 1: next door neighbor on one side. Robert Smith was on

536
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Speaker 1: the other side. Then a train Anthony Thomas, former Michigan star.

537
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Speaker 1: He's two doors down, so it just felt like family

538
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Speaker 1: when you know, when I met my neighbors.

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Speaker 2: This city is loaded with former players and some that

540
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Speaker 2: you don't even know about that you know they live

541
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Speaker 2: their lives and there's not a lot of publicity. I mean,

542
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Speaker 2: I see a lot of guys at these Touchdown Club

543
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Speaker 2: events or the Taxak Texas Bowl reception a few weeks ago,

544
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Speaker 2: saw some players there, but it's just loaded with even

545
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Speaker 2: more of them. NBA guys. Nick van Exel lived here forever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's still here. I once hit

547
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Speaker 2: his house.

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Speaker 3: On the eighteenth tee at Royal Oaks. Sorry, Nick, I

549
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Speaker 3: don't think I did any damage. There might be a mark. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: It's a great look. Houston is a great place to live.

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Speaker 1: I've lived in Ashburn, Virginia, which is a I don't

552
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Speaker 1: know if you've ever been to Ashbourn, northern Virginia.

553
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful. It's suburban DC, right pretty much. Yes, Yes,

554
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Speaker 3: lives in Philly, lived in South Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've lived all over, But to me, there's

556
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Speaker 1: no place like Houston.

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Speaker 3: It's just the best city in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's Tangent Tuesday, so we're allowed to talk about this.

559
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Speaker 2: I'm officially gonna name it Tangent Tuesday. By the way,

560
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Speaker 2: wait till the next hour.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Johnny and I are gonna go Tangent City. But I

563
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Speaker 2: think that with Houston. I tell people sometimes it's a

564
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Speaker 2: great place to live, not necessarily the greatest place to visit,

565
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Speaker 2: because if you're not into golf sports, if you don't

566
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Speaker 2: have people here that you love, look, you can do

567
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: fun things here. But it's not like going to some

568
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Speaker 2: other It's not New Orleans, it's not Miami, it's not

569
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Speaker 2: San Francisco. It's not one of these places, right, But

570
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Speaker 2: it's a great place to live. And Chris Vaughan, who

571
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Speaker 2: used to be my insurance guy, I think he retired now,

572
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Speaker 2: but he used to tell me when I first moved here,

573
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Speaker 2: he said, this is the greatest city in America. And

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Speaker 2: he lived in Miami and and all these other places

575
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Speaker 2: I lived. I said, what he's and I was here.

576
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Speaker 2: I was all in because I wanted to be with

577
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Speaker 2: the Texans. He said, you're going to see this is

578
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Speaker 2: the greatest city in America. And I thought, what a title.

579
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Speaker 2: But I can see it because it's a lifestyle. You

580
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Speaker 2: can create your own life here and there's a laid

581
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Speaker 2: back element to it.

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Speaker 1: It's maybe because I'm such a homebody, but what you said,

583
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Speaker 1: like the place is like what's it called, New Orleans?

584
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Speaker 3: The Bourbons?

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like for that doesn't really appeal to me. But

586
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Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want, Like there's plays, there's

587
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Speaker 1: a opera, like whatever you want. They have something going

588
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Speaker 1: on in Houston if you want to test it out.

589
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Speaker 3: There's no hockey, though we need hockey back. They had,

590
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Speaker 3: you know what, the arrows. Yeah, we used to have.

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Speaker 1: I actually had a chance to practice with them once.

592
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Speaker 1: And when I said I was sore in places that

593
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know I had muscles, that hockey taught

594
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Speaker 1: me something about your.

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Speaker 3: Boy practiced with the arrows. You're now no, I was.

596
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Speaker 1: I guess I could say, because I think I was

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Speaker 1: on extent at the time, so I was saying one

598
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Speaker 1: of my tangents. I was talking about how people don't

599
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Speaker 1: give hockey enough respect because it's better in person than

600
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Speaker 1: it's on television. And somebody from their office has heard

601
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Speaker 1: it and they appreciated it. So they invited me to

602
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Speaker 1: drop the puck and everything, and then I came out

603
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Speaker 1: to a practice. They taught me how to skate, and

604
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Speaker 1: you would lose both of y'all would lose all respect

605
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: for me as an athlete if you saw me day

606
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Speaker 1: one on ice yet.

607
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Speaker 3: Had you ever skated before? Oh? Never? Oh okay, that's tough.

608
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Speaker 3: It was tough. Yeah. My lower back was you can't

609
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: practice with them if you've never skated. Well, I say practice.

610
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Speaker 3: They showed me how to skate.

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Speaker 1: They were probably like, oh, this guy played in the

612
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Speaker 1: NFL and he's looking like this, but no, Yeah, I

613
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed those guys.

614
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a decent skater and I can skate backwards.

615
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Speaker 2: Those guys can. Those guys are like Dorothy Hamill, Peggy

616
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Speaker 2: Fleming and Nancy Kerrigan rolled into one as far as

617
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Speaker 2: their skating ability plus their linebackers on skates, so.

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Speaker 3: They're unbelievable marksman. Yeah, it's it's fun. It's fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to be I don't know, I'd love to

620
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Speaker 2: be going to some games, like maybe a couple of

621
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Speaker 2: games a year.

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Speaker 3: If we still have the Arrows here, it would be nice.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will take a quick time out on

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Speaker 1: Texan All Access. I'm Indy Kalue. He's Drew Doherty, Mark Vandermier,

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Speaker 1: the O V right here. All Sports Radio six ' ten.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Hen, Welcome back, Textan All Access. I am indeed,

627
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Speaker 1: he's Mark Drew to the right of me. You are you,

628
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Speaker 1: and we appreciate you listening in and we appreciate the

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Speaker 1: excitement in the air with the Houston Texans. And I'm

630
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Speaker 1: calling this. I'm calling it a playoff game. The definition

631
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Speaker 1: of a playoff game is your When you're in your

632
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Speaker 1: you lose, you're out. And that's exactly what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see when the Texans take on the Cults this Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Are y'all filling the Saturday time slot? Dude? I have

635
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Speaker 3: to be.

636
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Speaker 2: I have a cinderblock tied to my foot here so

637
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Speaker 2: I stay on the ground. This is unbelievable to be

638
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Speaker 2: playing the Cults in this context.

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Speaker 3: And listen.

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't really go there yet, But just

641
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: think about it. You get this one, you celebrate.

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00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: On their field, you've knocked them out of the postseason party,

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Speaker 3: and you're in. There.

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Speaker 2: Could be really nothing sweeter, honestly, the first playoff game

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Speaker 2: in Texans history. Was ultra sweet, and that was an

646
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Speaker 2: actual playoff game beating the Bengals, and look, I love

647
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Speaker 2: them all.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to compare.

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Speaker 2: But as far as erasing so many of the painful

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Speaker 2: memories with the Horseshoe, this would almost.

651
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: Wipe them all out.

652
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: I mean, to knock them out and you're going bye,

653
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: that will be awesome.

654
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: I really am praying it happens.

655
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 4: How can you not be excited about this? It's the

656
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: only time all year you're not playing at noon Central time,

657
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: which is wild. I mean, it's like you said, you

658
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: don't win, you're coming home. There's so much to play for.

659
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: And I was asked this by someone with the Colts

660
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: earlier today, say, hey, what's the mode of the locker room? Well,

661
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: after the win, I mean, every locker room is going

662
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: to be fun. But this is a confident team. Now

663
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: they got CJ. Stroud back. They think, hey, we can

664
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: beat anybody, and why can't they? Why can they not?

665
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: I've heard some people say, oh, well, if you don't

666
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: really want the Jaguars to lose, and you don't want

667
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: to win because then you'd have to come home and

668
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: then you have to play the Browns, Well, why the

669
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: hell not. Oh yeah, you can get around of the Browns.

670
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: Who was quarterback when the Texans played the Browns, not CJ. Stroud.

671
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: Yelson didn't have Will Anderson who was back and had

672
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: two sacks, you know, eleven snaps or whatever on the

673
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much going for you right now.

674
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: This is going to be awesome and get a chance

675
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: to sleep in on the road. I'm not too shy

676
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: said about that.

677
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: So now for the for the listeners, just to make sure,

678
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: what's the Colts they win?

679
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: Are they automatically in or did they automatic thing the Bengals.

680
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: Had the Bengals won, they would need the Bengals to

681
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 2: lose with a win. I believe there was something about that,

682
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: but no, now it's both teams. It's very clear went

683
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: in and I think that I'll get into this more

684
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: next hour. But I think that the league or the

685
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: people who cover the league, like ESPN, NFL Network, when

686
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: they put the end the hunt stuff up there, they're

687
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: not really doing it. Just Texans are in the hunt.

688
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Colts are in the playoffs. If the season ended today,

689
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't end today, all right, The Colts have to

690
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: play the Texans. So it's either or Texans or Colts,

691
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: and they should put them both right there and promote

692
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: the game better because this in last night, I'm watching

693
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: the college football playoff right Sean McDonough Rose Bowl.

694
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: And later on Saturday, it's the Texans and the Colts.

695
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: What you know, the Steelers, they still are alive, but

696
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: they need a lot of help to make the playoffs.

697
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: He's really hyping up the Steelers Ravens game in the afternoon.

698
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. Steelers Ravens. Ravens are playing for nothing.

699
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: I don't know which one he's calling.

700
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: Troy and Buck are calling ours.

701
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: And Fowler and company are calling the early one. So no,

702
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: it's not McDonough maybe it should be, but anyway, then

703
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: he said yeah, And later that night, the Colts and

704
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: Texans play for with playoff ramifications.

705
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: He called it.

706
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: No, it's a freaking playoff game. Hype the game, but

707
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: it's the Texans and the Colts. That's just the lack

708
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: of respect this division is going to get, even though

709
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: you have three winning teams. Colts have beaten the Ravens,

710
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: by the way, I know the Texans didn't, but I'll

711
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: trumpet up their victory over the Ravens.

712
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: And they've had an impressive season.

713
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: They get there would be starting quarterback knocked out Week

714
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: two right here at NRG Stadium, we got Minshew playing,

715
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh good, Oh wait a minute, not so good because

716
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: he plays well. They are Look, they're different. Everybody's different

717
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: than Week two. They're a little bit different. We are

718
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot different here. That was before Stroud really erupted,

719
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: and now you have a different kind of Texans team

720
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: taking on this Colts team. Good against the run, got

721
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: to be good against the run on Saturday night.

722
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: You kind of touched on it. But let's take ourselves

723
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: outside of the greatest city in the world, Houston, Like

724
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: we've all agreed, and look at it from the national perspective.

725
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Who season do you think most people feel is having

726
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: the more magical season with everything that you just mentioned

727
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: about the Colts.

728
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: Clearly the Texans, because of the quarterback, because of where

729
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: the Texans have been the last few years, Clearly the Texans,

730
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: I agree, much more magical. I think the Colts might

731
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: be ultimately a little more surprising given they've had the

732
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: success with Gardner Minshew, because people can say, well, yeah,

733
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: that's c J. Strouty's the second pick of the draft,

734
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: he was great Ohio State. That makes sense, but Gardner

735
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: Minshew makes a little trickier.

736
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: I think the Texans, no doubt, are having the more

737
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: magical season, and everybody sees it that way. But I

738
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: do think the Colts are doing something really incredible here

739
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: when you look at Gardner Minshew, really you got nine

740
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: wins with Garden Minshew Gardner Minshew, you might have ten.

741
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's been out huge chunks of the year, had

742
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: the whole offseason squabble with the squad. But here's the

743
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: subtlety of it that people don't realize. You look at

744
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: their offensive line. The band is not all the way

745
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: back together, but they're back together. This is if they're

746
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: a line when they were going good. Is the Eagles, Well,

747
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: this is the Eagles with Glenn Frye out obviously, but

748
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: you have Vince what's his name?

749
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Sheeez?

750
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: How am i Amy Grant's ex husband, Vince Gill, Vince

751
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: Gill impersonating Glenn Frye.

752
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: You have all that there.

753
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: They're touring and they've got most of the band back together.

754
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: So this line is playing well for the Colts. They're

755
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: running the ball well enough, and defensively they got some

756
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: animals there. I mean, you know, you got the Forest Buckner,

757
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Quitty Pay, you got e J.

758
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: Speed. Those guys are awesome.

759
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: Before guys that have seven sacks or more.

760
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

761
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's pretty pretty stout stuff.

762
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: That's kind of what makes me nervous is when you

763
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: talk about the versatility, because you never know where the

764
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: pass rush is coming from. And that's the case with

765
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: most good teams, even with the Texans. As much as

766
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Will Anderson's having an amazing rookie year and I love

767
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: the fact he had those back to back sacks. Great

768
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: call by the way, on that Mark Vandermin, I heard

769
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: that one. But uh, you know, when you look at

770
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: the Colts, it's like, okay, which one of these guys

771
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: is just once you get them on one on one.

772
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: They have four guys that can beat the majority of

773
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the NFL with one on one pass rush.

774
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a little bit of a nightmare there.

775
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, said d because this is different.

776
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Drew brought it up. Yet noon starts all season long,

777
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: and now you go at night on a short week. Okay,

778
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: short week is one thing. We'll get to that, but

779
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: just going at night. And I asked both Nick Cassario

780
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: Jamika Ryans about being in the hotel all day, and

781
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: that's a different dynamic. You had that in the preseason.

782
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: But it's preseason, right, this is a huge game. And

783
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Damiko said they'll do chaplain mass early, they'll do some meetings.

784
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: They want to get them out their feet a little bit,

785
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: but it's still waiting.

786
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: Around all day to play that night on the road.

787
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: What do you think me personally, I hated night games.

788
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: And when I was in Philly during our run, we

789
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: had a bunch of night games because we're in primetime

790
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: and you understand everyone's watching, so you get excited about that.

791
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: But the reason I say I hate it, and maybe

792
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: that's a little too strong, I'm so excited and most

793
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: players are so geeked. The day of a game. You

794
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: just want to wake up, go grab something to eat,

795
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: and go play. Yeah, and there's just so much waiting around.

796
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: You have to get used to it. I remember I

797
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: would try to watch a movie day of the game

798
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: just to try.

799
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: To kill time.

800
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: I think these guys, though, because they're young, the ma

801
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: season that they're having, they're going to be so excited

802
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: playing in a primetime game. They're gonna be so excited

803
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: knowing that they're the only game in town, you know,

804
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: for everyone to watch that. They're not gonna get too

805
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: down or too tired. You could get tired waiting around

806
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: for a game. It's like, emotionally, I'll never forget. Andy

807
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Reid will always tell us like, hey, don't watch too

808
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: many football games. I don't want you to drain your emotion.

809
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: And when I first heard that, I was like, what

810
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: does that mean? But then I kind of got it,

811
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Like you want to save and bottle everything up because

812
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: of football such an emotional game, such a physical game.

813
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 4: You want to watch PBS, you know, you.

814
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: Know what, just you get off your feed. They always

815
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: get a great job. We'll do like a walk through

816
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: just to kind of get you off your feed. I

817
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: watched a movie that didn't have anything to do with sports.

818
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: Other people, you know, everyone prepares a little bit differently,

819
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: but for me, I just wanted to get my mind

820
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: off of it until about two three hours. That's when

821
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: you start to focus.

822
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: That's really well said.

823
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: It's probably good to watch mind numbing entertainment, right, you know,

824
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: And I'm very good at this, by the way, numbing

825
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: the mind with mind numbing entertainment at night, just putting

826
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: on a TV show there and even for me, I

827
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: like to wake up, get something to eat, drink some coffee.

828
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: Let's go do it.

829
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: Let's go knock this out, because I'm like it, expectant father.

830
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: I gotta get this baby out. Come on, and you

831
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: just want to do it. You just want to be

832
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: out there.

833
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: But you know, the better the team is, the more

834
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: of these situations you have. And that's just life, and

835
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: it's good. It's good to be in that situation that

836
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: means you're a good team. But we've had some wild ones.

837
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: There's nothing like coming back from a primetime road game

838
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: with the victory. You know, Jets on Monday Night Football

839
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. And you know, I can name a

840
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: lot of others Cincinnati Week two, twenty seventeen and all that,

841
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: but this one, oh my gosh, I will not need

842
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: the plane if they come away with this victory. Others

843
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: fly by myself, okay.

844
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: You and about fifty three other players, Like, if they

845
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: get this victory, I would love to be on that

846
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: place right on the way home, because that's just gonna

847
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: be a party and a well deserved party in the air.

848
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: But again, maybe it's the player in me because I'm

849
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: so excited as a fan. I'm so excited being behind

850
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: this mic. I gotta keep reminding myself, like, you know what,

851
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: as excited as we are, they're excited with the Colts

852
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: because they're saying everything that we're saying, and they're saying, oh,

853
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: and we get this opportunity at home, which will make

854
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: it that much sweeter for the Texas. Like you said,

855
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: to party on their field and to do it away.

856
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: Well, Matt Taylor, voice of the Colts, was telling me,

857
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: you can get tickets last year to that regular season

858
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: finale game for fifteen bucks or something. He said, Now

859
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: put a couple more zeros after that, because these are

860
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: tough tickets to get. The good seats there at Lucas

861
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: Oil Stadium. Everybody's pumped up for this one, and rightfully so.

862
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, going back to this

863
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: whole what's the more magical story thing, they have a

864
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: case that it's a very magical season. It's Shane Stikeen's

865
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: first year, it's Minshew doing what he's doing. But my

866
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: point was they have more athletes from when they were

867
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: last good and even two years ago that a winning

868
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: season coulda would have should have made the playoff and

869
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: all that with Carson WANs to the year before that

870
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: they had Philip Rivers. They have a lot of those

871
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: guys left who are really good playmakers and established vets.

872
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: They still have a nucleus of players like that. Jonathan Taylor.

873
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they have these guys, right the Texans. It's

874
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: not like this is a pop up show, right, but

875
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: the Texans have so many new players and they're building

876
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: and they've built it up quickly.

877
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: But they're headed in a great direction here.

878
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: No matter what happens Saturday night, you feel like the

879
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: whole thing is moving in a positive direction.

880
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: Let me ask you both a tough question from their

881
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: point of view. We talked about the one year deals

882
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: here with the Houston Texans and how it's going to

883
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: be tough, not even tough, it's gonna be exciting to

884
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: see what transpires during the off season with some of

885
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: these guys from the Colts.

886
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: What do you do with Gardner Minshew in the off season.

887
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: That's a good question. You want to get to that next.

888
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, do that on the other side, so y'all can

889
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: get the calculators out and try to figure out how

890
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: much you're going to offer him if you're running that franchise.

891
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Where right now, we are running all access right here

892
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Speaker 1: only on sports Radio. Welcome in, Welcome back, one more

893
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: segment to go, Texan All Access. I'm Indy Kalui is

894
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Drew Doherty and Mark VanderMeer, the voice of the Texans.

895
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: All right, I asked the question out there.

896
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: All right, So if Minshew should stay or what do

897
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: you do with Minshe?

898
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: What do you do with Minshew with the season that

899
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: they've had.

900
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he has another meltdown Saturday night, it's pretty

901
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: easy to say, Okay, we'll maybe re sign him as

902
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: a backup, we'll go to Richardson, We'll take our shot

903
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: next year.

904
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: Whatever.

905
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: They have a winning season regardless, just like the Texans do.

906
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: I think if he does well, let's say they win,

907
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: or let's say he plays well at a loss or something,

908
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: they've got a real issue here because Richardson, they drafted

909
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: him for a reason, but he gets hurt a lot.

910
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I think they have to ride with Minshew a little

911
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: bit next year and just say either it's a competition

912
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: or I don't know, We're gonna work mins Richardson in

913
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: it's a really tough situation. You know who has a

914
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: tough situation as well. If he plays well, he meaning

915
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco the leveland Brown's they have all that money

916
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: invested in number four. But if Flacco takes them on

917
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: a deep run and doesn't play badly, and you know,

918
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: whenever they do lose, or if they go all the way,

919
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: my gosh. But if they lose at some point but

920
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: it's not because of him, Let's say, I don't know

921
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: how you don't bring him back for something, for an

922
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: appearance for I don't know, insurance, or if there's a controversy,

923
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, because clearly Watson the number is ridiculous.

924
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: Denver had a ridiculous number on Wilson, but the Watson

925
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: number is gigantic. It's if if the Wilson number is

926
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: the GNP of a small South American country. Uh this

927
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: you're talking about China with Watson, I mean this is humongous.

928
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: Well, if Minshew plays really well this weekend, and regardless

929
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: of what happens, but if he plays really well, has

930
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: he played himself out of Indianapolis? Can he get more

931
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: money elsewhere?

932
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: That'll be a restricted free agent.

933
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: Drug you're right saying, you know, like does he want

934
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: to come back there or does he want to get

935
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: more money elsewhere? Maybe it's in a better situation because

936
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: as we've seen here, backup quarterbacks really really matter. Where

937
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: would that season have been, Yeah, everywhere?

938
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Speaker 3: Everywhere?

939
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: Would this season be? Right now, we're not for case

940
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: Keenan and what he did at Tennessee. Maybe things are

941
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: different against but anyways.

942
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: Splitting in those two games huge had to happen.

943
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: At the very least, absolutely.

944
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: Regardless of how Minshew plays.

945
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: When I threw out that question, I don't think now

946
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: obviously him as a competitor. He's thinking I could go

947
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: start somewhere. But when I threw that out there, I

948
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't think that any the Cults or any other team

949
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: would look at him as a starter, but more as

950
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: a quality backup quarterback that you want on the roster.

951
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: So I can still see a scenario where they still

952
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: ride with Anthony Richardson. You know, you drafted him as

953
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: high as you did, but you bring in Gardner Minshew

954
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: to be that insurance policy and you're gonna have to

955
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: pay for it. So again I'm trying to think of

956
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: all the teams as I'm talking, which probably is in

957
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: good radio, but I can't see a team says Gardner

958
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: needs to be our starter. But I do think that

959
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: he could play himself into a nice comfortable contract as

960
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: a backup.

961
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: You know what, it could be one of these teams

962
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: drafting one of these young quarterbacks, Drake may or whatever,

963
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: and maybe not Michael Pennix or maybe not Caleb Williams,

964
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: but maybe somebody a little bit down the line, maybe

965
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: a Boon Knicks. But you're also bringing a Minshew, just

966
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: like the Colts did with Richardson, and maybe they do

967
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: it with Minshew again, but just like the Colts did

968
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: with Richardson, where you have Minshew there to maybe start

969
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: and eventually be replaced, or if he does great, you

970
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: just sit the guy for a while and take it.

971
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: All things being equal to Yeah, if I'm the Colts,

972
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 4: I bring him back. I'm saying he could. He could

973
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: maybe make more money somewhere else, and I don't know

974
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: if it's as a starter as a backup, but he

975
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: might see a better situation for himself financially end team wise.

976
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: And he's right though, no one's bringing him in to

977
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: say that's our start. All the posters, he were the

978
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna keep the seat warm, but he might

979
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: play well enough to keep the seat warm for a while.

980
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: Alex Smith and Patrick Mahomes, and now Smith was really established.

981
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: But that kind of thing, if you will, I think

982
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: I could see that now.

983
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: I like what you said that whichever team had to

984
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: rely on one of these young quarterbacks to bring in

985
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: a Pardner menshoot.

986
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: I can definitely see that. And boy, Michael Pennix looked

987
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: so good last night. That guy.

988
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Credit to Andre Ware for calling that along.

989
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: He called that shot a long time ago. And I'm

990
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: gonna say it right now.

991
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: If I'm well Chicago, it's a weird situation with Justin Fields.

992
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: But if I'm looking for a quarterback and I have

993
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 2: the choice between Caleb Williams and Michael Pennocks, I'm taking Pennix.

994
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: All day long.

995
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Williams is going to be bad, and

996
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: maybe he's gonna be fine, but based on everything I've seen,

997
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: I want Pennix to be my quarterback if I have

998
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: a choice of any of these young guys. That said,

999
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: I am so glad c j Strous because you can't

1000
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 2: assume that any of those players, or any player period

1001
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: is going to rise up to the level of Stroud

1002
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: in his first year.

1003
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: They need to figure out a way to bottle or

1004
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: understand what makes CJ. Strouss tick and see if they

1005
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: can find that in any of these other college quarterbacks.

1006
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Because there was always these questions about There's always gonna

1007
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: be questions about all these quarterbacks. But what's really amazed

1008
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: me about c. J. Stroud is are the intangible his maturity.

1009
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Looking at him in the huddle, he doesn't seem phased.

1010
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: He just reminds me of a season vet. The way

1011
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: he carries himself.

1012
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about all he's went through growing up. I

1013
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: mean that that alone, that's gonna that's gonna stand off

1014
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: a lot of rough edges on some people and drive

1015
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: other people to to misery and to other I mean,

1016
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: he has really risen above some tough, tough circumstances. That

1017
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: that alone has been amazing. So you know, that's that's

1018
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: one of the things that off the field that impresses

1019
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: me the most way what he's risen above and persevered through.

1020
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: The press conferences. I'm writing down senior quotes every.

1021
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: Appearance he makes, like that'd be a good year. Of quote,

1022
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: that'd be a good year.

1023
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: And I say that in a complimentary way because he

1024
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: says some really insightful things times.

1025
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: Yes, he's twenty two years old.

1026
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: He just turned twenty two, and he's just he's just

1027
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: spitting wisdom, you know, up there at the podium and

1028
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: playing unbelievably Well, what.

1029
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: Do you think as somebody who's been in the league

1030
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: when he said it was early in the season when

1031
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: he said, you know, I'm I'm not just a quarterback.

1032
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm not just the leader of the team. I'm I'm

1033
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: helping people make money for their families, to help change

1034
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: their you know, their life directions. I mean that I've

1035
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 4: never heard anybody say that before as a quarterback.

1036
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, you haven't heard any other quarterbacks say that before.

1037
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: That to come from a rookie, Yeah, And it just

1038
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: lets you know that I like to say he's been

1039
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: here before, whether that means you know, he in a

1040
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: different life, which I don't believe. You know, he's been

1041
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: around because he's so mature and so young. He just

1042
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: really understands and grasps this opportunity that he has as

1043
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback.

1044
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: And you just appreciate it.

1045
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: When I had a chance to interview him before one

1046
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: of the preseason games, when you ask a question, you

1047
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: could almost see and hear the wheels in his brain

1048
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: spending because he thinks first.

1049
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: You know, and he's looking through. He's looking through.

1050
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: He's really thinking about the answer, and you can tell

1051
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: that this is a cerebral human being and that's what

1052
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: you want at your quarterback position.

1053
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1054
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: When I first met him in the hallway in the offseason,

1055
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: he wanted to know what I did, and he had

1056
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: me repeat my name so he could get it nice.

1057
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: Now I don't really see him that much. It's funny

1058
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: because I don't see him in the cafe that much,

1059
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: cafeteria whatever we call it.

1060
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't see him.

1061
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't interact with him that much, and I'd love

1062
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: to be able to interview him every week.

1063
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: But maybe someday that happens. But I took note of that.

1064
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: And one player that reminded me of was Demico Rans

1065
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: because as a rookie, Demico wanted to understand everybody in

1066
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: the organization. It felt that way anyway, and I think

1067
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: CJ is a similar way. And it's very cool to

1068
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: see for such a young man to have that.

1069
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes back to what we were talking about

1070
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: earlier about both of them being named captains. That was well,

1071
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: that was surprising. It wasn't stunning because I was in

1072
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: Kansas City on Draft night and I'm one of the

1073
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: first people that got to interview them after they kind

1074
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: of did the Goodell hug and the on camp. They

1075
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: came over and both of those guys, Anderson and Stroud,

1076
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: you shake their hand and are looking down at you

1077
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: because they're big guys, but they're looking straight in the eye,

1078
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: giving you a good, firm handshake. What's your name? Like

1079
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: Mark said, repeat it?

1080
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1081
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: So it was it was a typical because most of

1082
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: those guys are they're on cloud nine. They've just been

1083
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: picked in the and they're exceptionally happy. But they were

1084
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: taking a moment out of their joy to figure things

1085
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: out and kind of get to know a little bit

1086
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: more about the lay of the land.

1087
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm not leaving this joy of the

1088
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: Houston Texans playing and what I'm calling a playoff game

1089
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: against the Colts this Saturday night. Has been fun to

1090
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: chop it up with the two of you. We need

1091
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: to do it more. Thanks for listening. This has been

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access.

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: Hello Texans, and what a wonderful opportunity. This is an

1094
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: opportunity like the head coach talked about, like many of

1095
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: the players have talked about. But our opportunity this show

1096
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: is just to talk about everything going on with this

1097
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: colossal matchup on Saturday night at Indy. Me try to

1098
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: keep my emotions in check.

1099
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, easy. I You've got to do that, toy

1100
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: to do that to you? Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1101
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: thought about tell me, I thought about this.

1102
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 5: I thought about this yesterday on Monday, like game Saturday,

1103
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: which just good it's a day earlier.

1104
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but goodness, right right right, because I can't but we.

1105
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: Got but we got to bottle it up until then. Really,

1106
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to us. We

1107
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: got to bottle it up until then. Big games, you

1108
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 5: gotta bottle them up. You can't get you can't. You

1109
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 5: can't play the game Friday night, you know, you gotta.

1110
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 5: You gotta play it Saturday night. And it's tough.

1111
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 3: It's tough, Johnny.

1112
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough because I think about it happens, and

1113
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure fans feel the same way. Where you get

1114
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: so excited you're just driving around in your car. You think,

1115
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, and then you got to reel it

1116
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: back in because it's not here yet, right, not here, right,

1117
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: not here. I mean, I'm watching college football last night,

1118
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: and I have no dog in the fight.

1119
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1120
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: I support the Longhorns and all that, and I like

1121
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 2: Craig Way, but I'm not gonna feel pain if they lose.

1122
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm just not correct. I like Sark, actually I do.

1123
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: I like him.

1124
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: I like his journey that he's turned his life around.

1125
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: Good point.

1126
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's turned them around because I think, you

1127
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: know how I feel. They should always be there, or

1128
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: at least be there every year every third year or

1129
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: so at least and so shid they aggies, by the way.

1130
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other subject. But I don't really,

1131
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: it's not I'm not gonna say I don't care. I

1132
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: care about football, but I don't feel pain when they

1133
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: lose to me. And you know, this is my ultimate

1134
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: test of being a fan. People say, I'm a fan

1135
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: of so and so. Do you feel pain when they lose?

1136
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: That's how you know you're a fan if you feel

1137
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: pain when your team loses. Because I could jump on

1138
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: anybody's bandwagon, sure, and oh that's a great ride. And

1139
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: then if they lose, I'm getting off the bandwagon. Now,

1140
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: have a nice day. But if you feel pain when

1141
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: they lose, you know you're in it.

1142
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that.

1143
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 5: I put that to the test with my fandom of

1144
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 5: Manchester City back in I think it's twenty eighteen. It

1145
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 5: was kind of new found because I had seen the

1146
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 5: documentary I think it was on Netflix where they followed

1147
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 5: them all throughout the season and everywhere, and I just

1148
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 5: fell in love with the team, how they played, the guy.

1149
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 5: I fell in love with Pep Guardiola, manager, and I

1150
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 5: just that's really when I kind of my love of

1151
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: Premier League soccer started. And I had realized that I

1152
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: had missed some some big time games before that. I

1153
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 5: couldn't figure out the whole Champions League versus Premier League

1154
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 5: and the Cups and all. I got all that down now.

1155
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: But I remember we had a game and I was

1156
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 5: watching the Texans. We had a game, and so I

1157
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: was up in my office watching Manchester City play before

1158
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: our game.

1159
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got host on a var call.

1160
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: So basically the review would have given them a lead

1161
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 5: in the eighty fifth minute, they're gonna win this game

1162
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 5: against Tottenham, and var takes the goal away and I

1163
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 5: am furious.

1164
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: I am just like, you can't you got it me?

1165
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: And then I realized, okay, I'm a fan. I'm like,

1166
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: that's my team. I'm a fan.

1167
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 5: That's the test because I felt pain that that win

1168
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: was taken away. So even though Matt Burke wants to

1169
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: pull me to the Liverpool side, it won't happen.

1170
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: I'm on the Man's City side. I will stay in

1171
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: the Man City side. I love that loves Liverpool. That's

1172
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: pretty cool, that's very cool. But let me ask you

1173
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: this about Premier League real quick.

1174
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: So there's no playoff, it's only one winner for everybody

1175
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: else comes in second or worse.

1176
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 3: And it's a big league. Twenty teams, yeah, twenty teams,

1177
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: but that's it feels so empty. You finish third, you

1178
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: feel off. Well.

1179
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 5: Here's the thing though, and this is what they've done

1180
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 5: really really well in soccer. The top four teams will

1181
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: go to Champions League.

1182
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 3: So you'll play extra games though.

1183
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 5: Well yeah, that's but but Champions League, like that's your

1184
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: top being top four.

1185
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: That's like a special invite in the Champions League.

1186
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: And so that's like a season long playoffs with other

1187
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: European international wonderful clubs.

1188
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: Very exactly.

1189
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: The next four are in the Europa which is kind

1190
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: of a step down for Champions League.

1191
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know. So the Europa Cup is those guys.

1192
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: So is the next four five through eight? Okay, then

1193
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 3: your bottom three are fighting for relegation, your bottom three

1194
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: your bottom three, So you've got your top teams fighting

1195
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 3: to get in that top eight so they can get

1196
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 3: in Europe, but they can get in a Champions League

1197
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: and then play for something, as they would say, like

1198
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: you win champions you're the champion of Europe. I mean

1199
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: that's a big deal.

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00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: So top eight you're in these leagues, right, bottom three

1201
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: r relegated.

1202
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: So that's eleven of twenty, so nine are.

1203
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: In no man's land kind of and you're trying to

1204
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: get better for next year.

1205
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's fair.

1206
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: That's similar percentage wise probably to what's going on in

1207
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 5: the NFL.

1208
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: Essentially, the top eight are gonna make the playoffs. Yeah.

1209
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 5: In Premier League, bomb three get relegated, So I mean,

1210
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: you're not gonna have relegation in the NFL you don't have.

1211
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 3: It would be interesting if you did.

1212
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: But I think that's what keeps those teams Like Mark,

1213
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: I've seen matches of.

1214
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: Teams sitting on the relegation line needing a win in

1215
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: the joy of staying up is unbelievable. It's incredible to

1216
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: get that win.

1217
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 5: I can't remember who was last year was watching Maybe

1218
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: it's Nottingham Forest I think, and they were playing maybe Newcastle,

1219
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 5: I can't remember, and they had to win to stay

1220
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 5: above the relegation line. And when they won, there was

1221
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 5: a celebration like they were going to the playoffs, like

1222
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: they had won the AFC championship. It was incredible, and

1223
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 5: that's what those teams down there playing for now in

1224
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 5: the NFL. You know, like we found out last year

1225
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: in Week eighteen, what are you playing for? You know

1226
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 5: you're playing for Bride, you play and you know, you

1227
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: can say all those cliche things, but your honestly, the

1228
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 5: way the draft is set up, and obviously Premier league

1229
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 5: doesn't have a draft like that, so it's not they're

1230
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 5: encouraging winning at that point. If you had relegation in

1231
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 5: the NFL, man, some of those games would be incredible

1232
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 5: down to short.

1233
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you would do it. I

1234
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: don't know how you would figure that out. So I

1235
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: don't I.

1236
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: Feel like the bottom five in the NFL maybe the

1237
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: top team. That'd be awesome to have playoffs for the

1238
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: draft choices. Oh did you imagine?

1239
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 5: My goodness, you get the number one Yeah, so scottom

1240
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 5: four teams. Yeah, playing a three game playoff concurrently with

1241
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 5: the playoffs, yes, and the winner, the winner gets the

1242
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: number one pick.

1243
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: Guess who's watching those games? Everybody? Everybody watching, everybody and everybody.

1244
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: It's weird because there's Davis Mills quarterbacking your team last

1245
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: year in this hypothetical scenario, and he's trying to win

1246
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: you the number one pick to somebody's going to take

1247
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: his job. So that's kind of weird. But you know what,

1248
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: offer some bonus money, you know, I make it interesting.

1249
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's about Carolina this year. You're playing for

1250
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: the Bears pick.

1251
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 5: I know, well, they can't get and they they're the

1252
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 5: worst team in the league. That mathematically it can't happen.

1253
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 5: So the Bears already have that pick. The Bears can

1254
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: the Bears can sit at home and not have to

1255
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 5: worry about what Dave Temper and Carolina are going to do?

1256
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: All right?

1257
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: So where I play hoops, there's a guy who's a

1258
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: huge fan, and you know, I was talking to him

1259
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: about their situation. They're winning in against the Bears.

1260
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: Against the Bears this second straight year for the Packers

1261
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: against an NFC North team on the last day of

1262
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: the year at their place. Win in. Yeah, exact same

1263
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 3: situation lines last year, Bears this year.

1264
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's crazy. Here's another thing. And look,

1265
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: we're all over the place, but it's Tuesday night.

1266
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: That's what we do.

1267
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: So with what we saw last night from Michael Pennix,

1268
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: who Dre loves, we've known this for a couple of years, and.

1269
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: Now is he not good? He was amazing. It was incredible.

1270
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm the Bears. I don't know

1271
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: how I'm not picking them. I don't know how I'm

1272
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: not doing it.

1273
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: I know Fields was playing better lately, but geez, I'm

1274
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: looking at Penis. This guy is good to go. He

1275
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: could have come out last year about a top.

1276
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 3: Three four or five whatever. But now, and what's gonna

1277
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: happen with Caleb Williams, Johnny all Right? Draft evaluator. This

1278
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: changes things. It's kind of like the Stroud Georgia games,

1279
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: solidifying things or maybe propelling him up. I don't know

1280
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: whatever it did for him, but it clearly was a

1281
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: big moment for CJ.

1282
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: Even though they lost. He played great against that masterful team.

1283
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: But with Panix in this playoff now, I know they're

1284
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: a solid team top to bottom, no doubt, but he

1285
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: looked amazing. Four hundred plus all the rest of it.

1286
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 5: Texas didn't do anything that I thought they should do.

1287
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 5: First of all, they didn't heat him up. And I

1288
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 5: know they were trying to give their secondary some help,

1289
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: but they didn't heat him up.

1290
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: And if they had watched back there a few times

1291
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 3: and he's I know he.

1292
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 5: Did, he did, But where did he always always always

1293
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 5: go when they got pressure left?

1294
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: He went left.

1295
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 5: I said on Orange Bloods when I was on with

1296
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: them Orange Buzz Live, Jeff Ketch him and Chat Hasten.

1297
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 5: I said, you got to push him right. You've got

1298
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 5: to rush him and force him to go right.

1299
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: Like a right handed quarterback.

1300
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 5: Sometimes he got absolutely and he's one of those, Like

1301
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 5: there's some right handed quarterbacks that like going left because

1302
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 5: I like that side arm stuff that's not Penis.

1303
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: Penix is not like going right and then throw. He doesn't.

1304
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: He likes going left and throwing, and that's what he

1305
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 5: was doing. But I'm telling you I said this a

1306
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: few years ago when Josh Allen was coming to the league,

1307
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 5: I said, when he comes to the league, of the

1308
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: strongest arm in the league, no doubt. When Michael Penix

1309
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: comes in the league is gonna be really really close.

1310
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 5: Who's got the strongest arm. So a couple of things.

1311
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 5: Number One, Caleb Williams hasn't declared yet and.

1312
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: He's coming back.

1313
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's coming to the draft, right. No, maybe

1314
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: the offer will be that good the end.

1315
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

1316
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 5: I mean I would I would imagine that USC's got

1317
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: some money in the collective somewhere, But I don't know.

1318
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 5: Maybe he doesn't want to play for Chicago. And here's

1319
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 5: the other thing. We don't even know Chicago will make

1320
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 5: the pick of Caleb Williams. Did you hear the fans

1321
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 5: the other day in the game against who they playing?

1322
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: Was it Atlanta they were playing the other day? Yeah,

1323
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 5: the entire stadium was channing. We want fields, We want Fields. Yeah,

1324
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: they're saying we want to keep him. And how often

1325
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 5: is it that the fans want to keep the guy

1326
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 5: that you have. You always want something new, So that's

1327
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 5: gonna be the first thing is what do you what

1328
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 5: do you do about that? So, okay, we're gonna stick

1329
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 5: with Justin Fields. Well, then all of a sudden, come on,

1330
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: interested buyers, Let's let's make a track. Yeah, so Caleb

1331
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 5: hasn't declared yet, but he's also said I'm not really

1332
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: sure about going to Chicago, And at that point, I'm like,

1333
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1334
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: But here's what's happened.

1335
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams is kind of Kayler Williams was up here

1336
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 5: and I got my hand above the microphone, Okay, about

1337
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: a foot above the microphone. Drake May was close, maybe

1338
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 5: an inch or half behind him. Drake or Caleb Williams

1339
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 5: kind of did a steady climb. Drake May did kind

1340
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 5: of steady climb. Jayde Daniels and Michael Pennock's slope is going.

1341
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: Through the roof.

1342
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so if Kayleb Williams comes out and you got Caleb, Drake, Caleb,

1343
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 5: Drake h Kayler Williams, Drake May, Jade Daniels, Michael Pennock's

1344
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 5: bow Nicks.

1345
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bo Nix is up there too. That's a strong

1346
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: top five. That's a strong top five.

1347
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: And now it's gonna come down to Okay, we've got

1348
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 5: other candidates in this thing that have got stronger backgrounds

1349
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 5: on backgrounds is the right word, but they've got stronger

1350
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: football character and some of the character things that people

1351
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: might find with Caleb.

1352
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, Caleb Callb's a little different. You know paints

1353
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: is Dale's. I mean he's very emotional. I mean all

1354
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: those kind of things you're gonna have to learn to

1355
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: deal with. To me, KILEB. Williams is still number one.

1356
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 5: He's a magician with the football, and I know you're

1357
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: gonna have to get him to do things in structure.

1358
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 5: But man, you know Andy Reid didn't fight that with

1359
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes and look where Look where it's gotten.

1360
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: Let's say the Bears don't trade the pick. Let's say

1361
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: they don't pick a quarterback. They gotta trade this pick.

1362
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: Wait, you think he's the number one non quarterback Marvinherrison Jr.

1363
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 5: Now I would like that, like take him, take him,

1364
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: keep him out of the AFC self, please, Even though.

1365
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: We'll see him at twenty four because we see the Bears.

1366
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: But take Marvin Harrison junior year. I don't want to

1367
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: see him in an Andy uniform. I'll tell you what.

1368
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: You watch it Washington Washington Texas game, right, how many dudes?

1369
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk had a couple of touchdowns. He was tremendous.

1370
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 5: Jayalen McMillan is tremendous. Romadoonsay is top ten to me.

1371
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 5: I texted you, guys. I was like, could you imagine

1372
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: Nico Tank Romadoonsay with passes from C. J.

1373
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: Stroud? Oh my goodness.

1374
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 5: Then on Texas side, you got Adne Mitchell and you

1375
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 5: got Save, You're Worthy, you got do You had dudes

1376
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 5: all over the place on that team, and I think

1377
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: Mitchell Worthy will come out.

1378
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: You've got receivers all over the place.

1379
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, where the Texans are drafting, let's just hope there's

1380
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: somebody there aver there the neighbors.

1381
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: Maybe for those there will be a receiver later in

1382
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: the first round.

1383
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 5: There will be five or six if the Texas wanted

1384
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 5: to go receiver, strong and receiver. I don't know if

1385
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: everybody will declare the defensive tackle class, but man, I

1386
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: saw Bier Murphy last night from Texas. That was the

1387
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 5: best he's played all year, and he's been tremendous all year.

1388
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 5: It was the best he played last night. He's a people,

1389
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 5: He's incredible. He can move guys around and get inside.

1390
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 5: Who reminds me up in the backfield? Did you get

1391
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: I think I texted you guys. My comp for him

1392
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: is the guy we'll see Saturday Buck Grover Stewart. Oh,

1393
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: Grover Stewart. The other one, Biron Murphy is Grover Stewart.

1394
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, could.

1395
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 5: You imagine us with the Grover Stewart with the guys

1396
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 5: we have? Oh man, I've got.

1397
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: Some questions for you about the Colts defense in just

1398
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: the second here. But but back to the draft here.

1399
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're on this, but we are

1400
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: all over the place. Bears, no QB. Let's just say Washington,

1401
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: yes QB. Okay, right, new coach, new quarterback. Patriots definitely

1402
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: a quarterback. So there's two Cardinals, No Giants.

1403
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: Maybe I think they gotta do it. Giants got entertainment

1404
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: thought for sure. Yeah.

1405
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: Look, Shefford eating Russell Wilson's contract is going to pave.

1406
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: The way for Hey It's okay. These things happen. We'll

1407
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: read those teams again, starting Washington. Okay, Washington's second. Okay,

1408
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: stop the.

1409
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 5: Washington for a second. Russell Wilson is from Virginia, grew

1410
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 5: up as a Redskins fan.

1411
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 3: Listen.

1412
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: I could not if if I'm Josh Harris, the owner

1413
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: of the Washington Commanders, I would say, you guys aren't

1414
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: doing this.

1415
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: We're not, We're not.

1416
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 5: Okay, but what if you get him for a really

1417
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 5: cheap contract because the Broncos still money.

1418
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: I'm still drafting. I'm still drafting a quarterbacks.

1419
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm still graf sexy quarterback to sell tickets, to

1420
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: give me some upside.

1421
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: The stock is going to go, Hi, let's go.

1422
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 5: If the Bears don't trade the pick and take Marvin

1423
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior, which I think would now look Martin Harrison

1424
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 5: Junior is a great pick for the Bears. But the

1425
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 5: Bears don't trade out of that pick with the quarterbacks

1426
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 5: that in this draft, with teams that might want it,

1427
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 5: and they could build that thing for a long time.

1428
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 5: But a lot of first round picks and it just

1429
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: it all depends on how they feel about you.

1430
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: Just get a trade with them. Though, who's gonna trade

1431
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: It's funny, Well, the Bears also have the tenth pick.

1432
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: Right, who's after Washington? Who's going New Order? Washington, New England?

1433
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: Right? Then the Cardinals Giants.

1434
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 5: Okay, so three of those four are going to be

1435
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 5: in the market for a quarterback. So if they're in

1436
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 5: the market for a quarterback and they really like one,

1437
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 5: they may need to get up to number.

1438
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: One to do it, or you stay in pat and

1439
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: you just take one of the Exactly.

1440
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: It's a game of guts poker in some CJ's success

1441
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: is gonna have a lot of people thinking, well, he

1442
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: was the second pick, and a lot of people didn't

1443
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: think he was good, and they're gonna talk themselves into

1444
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: this guy could possibly pull a c J.

1445
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: Stroud And I think it's easier said than ton. We

1446
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: mailed this.

1447
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: How many guys have we seen who have a kind

1448
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: of blast off start that CJ.

1449
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 3: Straut has had in his career. It's highly limited.

1450
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: This is extremely rare what you're seeing, So buyer beware

1451
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: if you think one of these, I don't care who

1452
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: it is, if it's Caleb Williams, if it's Michael Pennix,

1453
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: you think this guy's gonna be like CJ in his

1454
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: rookie year. I don't think so. I think this is

1455
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 2: really rare what we're seeing. Not that those guys can't

1456
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: be good, No, you're right.

1457
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: I think those teams have to realize and the owners

1458
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 5: have to realize, Hey, it's not gonna get turn around

1459
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 5: like that. This dude's special. What CJ has done this

1460
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 5: year special. I mean, look at Bryce, look at the

1461
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: other rookie quarterbacks. They've had a few moments, but CJ.

1462
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: Special.

1463
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 5: I mean look at the numbers he was putting up

1464
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 5: and the things he was doing obviously before before the concussion.

1465
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: He's been I go back to this Johnny with him,

1466
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: I go back to because I saw Watson do it

1467
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: a bit his rookie year as well. And Watson's a

1468
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: different kind of quarterback. Watson at his best scrambler, great runner,

1469
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: he's a great passer of the ball as well. But

1470
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: with CJ, it's within the context of the offense until

1471
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: it isn't right, and then it's still good.

1472
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: And c J.

1473
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: Stroud makes throws that other quarterbacks would not attempt. As

1474
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: you talked about it, the windows there, it's NFL open.

1475
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: As you said, Uh, he'll go ahead and throw that dart.

1476
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: He'll take that chance because he's very confident and capable

1477
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: of getting it there. And everybody feeds off of that.

1478
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: I know the ball is coming to me. I better

1479
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: get ready. That is a beautiful thing.

1480
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 5: Let me give you a great example of that. So

1481
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: I just went and I did tell Shred. I did

1482
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 5: tell Shrey the Brevin Jordan touchdown. And as I'm watching

1483
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 5: the touchdown, I realized, okay, wait a second, Darry, isn't

1484
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 5: it running back on it? I was like, is this

1485
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 5: the third down playoff? I didn't remember it being a

1486
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: third down play. It was a first down play. And

1487
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 5: then I remember, oh, yeah, that's right. They had gotten

1488
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 5: the third down conversion Prior to that, the conversion because

1489
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 5: Darry was in the game. And then they hustled back

1490
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 5: up to the line of scrimmage because they had him

1491
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 5: in a a formation they liked and they had a

1492
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 5: play call they liked, so they went with it. I

1493
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 5: was like, wait, what happened on the third down conversion?

1494
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 5: So I went, so this is how good it advanced?

1495
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 3: C J.

1496
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 5: Stroud is. The Titans came out and played man. It

1497
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 5: played two man, and on the far side of the field.

1498
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: They had Sean.

1499
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: Murphy Bunting was gonna play a trail technique, which is

1500
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: essentially it's a great it's a fun technique to play

1501
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 3: for a dB because what you do is you let

1502
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: the receiver run by you and then you kind of

1503
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: get in his you get behind him in the lane,

1504
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: and you get in the passing lane basically because you

1505
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 3: have help over the top, so you basically clamp him

1506
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: is what you do.

1507
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 5: CJ just zipped it right to Nico in between it.

1508
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: You shouldn't throw an out against trail coverage because there's

1509
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 5: safety help, there's.

1510
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: Safety health and the guy Ryan's going to be very

1511
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: wrong and he zips it on at two Nico about

1512
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: six inches about a foot outside the sideline where Nico's

1513
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: got to snatch it to tap it catch, and that's

1514
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: not a throw you're supposed to make against that coverage. Now,

1515
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: Nico ran a really good route and he kind of

1516
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: froze Murphy Bunting at the stem a little bit. But

1517
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: still against that trio coverage, you shouldn't hit that throw.

1518
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: He nails it. It's funny, he nails it. We see

1519
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: them do nail individual work on air. Right, No, DB's

1520
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: in practice, but they are working on.

1521
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: Those cuts, on those breaks and the throws being there.

1522
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: So CJ's throwing it before the break and Nego's making

1523
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: the great cut and it just goes to the sideline

1524
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: and right there and you can't do anything about it

1525
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: as a dB. And it's beautiful to watch.

1526
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: That is the work they put in, the chemistry they

1527
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: have together, and it's so much fun to watch.

1528
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: And then he finds Jordan for the touchdown.

1529
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's really it's been incredible to watch.

1530
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1531
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 5: That you see that with this Classic Quarterbacks. I feel

1532
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 5: like these guys are all talented for different reasons and

1533
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: they're gonna be I feel like this is a pretty solid,

1534
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 5: strong group. I think one guy will emerge out of

1535
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: there that's pretty special. Maybe two not like this not

1536
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 5: the way that he throws. Well, nobody that I've studied

1537
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 5: other than Joe Burrow and that was my comp you

1538
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 5: know that. Back in May, I sat in here and

1539
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 5: I was watching two and three games a CJ. And

1540
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 5: I was like, man, I'm seeing him make some throws.

1541
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 5: I think at the beginning it kind of looks bad

1542
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 5: and then you're like.

1543
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: Wait a second. No, no, no, no, no, that's a brilliant throw.

1544
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 3: He's throwing that behind that guy on purpose. Look at

1545
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 3: him throw these balls to certain spots.

1546
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 5: I remember we went to San Francisco end of the

1547
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one season. We played on either New Year's

1548
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: Day or the second I can't remember what it was.

1549
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 5: I think we were playing a second, playing on a

1550
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 5: second in San Francisco, and so we're like, you know what,

1551
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 5: we really don't want to mess with San Francisco.

1552
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: So we decide mey you dre Robert.

1553
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 5: We sit at the bar our at the hotel and

1554
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 5: we say, hey, can we get food? And we had

1555
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 5: two three TVs on and they're playing the Rose Bowl,

1556
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, six hours to our south, and we're watching

1557
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: and I'm just watching Stroud and he's just die.

1558
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: He's diamond throws. I mean, he's just dotting guys. He's

1559
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: made it. He made it.

1560
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 5: Throw a JSN on the sideline, like dang wow. Because

1561
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 5: this Michigan game was so tough. I mean it was

1562
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 5: a tough game. But I'd seen him play during the

1563
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: year and I could see the growth. You could see

1564
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 5: the growth after the organ loss. I'm watching him at

1565
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 5: Rose Bowl and I'm like, boy, he hits JSN on

1566
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: the run. And that's when I was like, man, I

1567
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 5: can't wait till I study this guy this spring because

1568
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 5: I think he's got something that's a little different than

1569
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 5: these other guys. And I love Bryce Young, I really did.

1570
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 5: And I think Bryce is going to be a good quarterback.

1571
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 5: I think they've got a surround of a better cast.

1572
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 5: When I watched that Rose Bowl on you know, on

1573
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: ALL twenty two film and I watched the Michigan game

1574
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 5: in ALL twenty two film, I walked out of there going, dude,

1575
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 5: this guy throws.

1576
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: Like Burrow Man. He throws just like Burrow.

1577
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 5: And I remember saying that to you and you're like, well,

1578
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 5: you know, that's a that's a mouthful and and I

1579
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 5: know why you say that, because you aren't very many guys,

1580
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 5: but I was. I was convicted that guy could do

1581
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 5: what Joe Burrow does. I just felt like Bryce coming

1582
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 5: from Alabama and you know, for a lot of us,

1583
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 5: was there some helmet scouting in there, the fact that

1584
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 5: he was from Alabama a little bit, but.

1585
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: Just everything I liked about Bryce.

1586
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 5: He'd always been small, but he always found a way

1587
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 5: to beat teams, and I think he's gonna do that

1588
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 5: with a better sporting cast around him.

1589
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: And coaching right and coaching and coaching. I don't know

1590
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: how they get along with ownership that remains to be.

1591
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a that's a mess. He's a mess. You're

1592
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 5: throwing ice cubes at people at Jacksonville. Come on, man, that.

1593
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: Is just redick. You gotta you gotta.

1594
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 5: You expect your coach, your GM, your players to hold

1595
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 5: together and Europe in the stands and citing people with

1596
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 5: that nonsense, you got, you gotta stop. But point being,

1597
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: we got CJ.

1598
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1599
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 5: There are some dudes there coming into this league that

1600
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 5: are gonna be kind of fun. I don't think they're

1601
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 5: coming to the AFC South good. I don't think.

1602
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: Well, because you have Richardson, you have Lawrence, you have CJ.

1603
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1604
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what they do though, And you know,

1605
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: speaking of that, that's a tricky one speaking of them.

1606
01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel, he's safe. We think, we think, we think,

1607
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: but what about this performance here? What about this coaching

1608
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: performance that we've seen.

1609
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so going back to last year, they ended the

1610
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 5: game or end of the season seven game losing streak Yeah,

1611
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 5: they're sitting at five and eleven right now. So they're

1612
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 5: five and eighteen in their last twenty three, including three

1613
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 5: losses to US.

1614
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, is that look at some point, you do

1615
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: talk about the injuries, you talk about all of that,

1616
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: But is that an alarm going off in the Adams

1617
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: family offices right now that hey, do we have vrabel

1618
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: goggles on from the time that he knocked off top

1619
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: seed Baltimore in twenty nineteen, from the time he was

1620
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: the top seed in twenty twenty one. But it hasn't

1621
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: worked out. Frank Reich. How many playoff victories does reichav one?

1622
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: One? Rabel has two.

1623
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: They were impressive beating the Patriots and then beating the

1624
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens in twenty nineteen. But I want to go

1625
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: back over Reich's record and Rabel's record in the last

1626
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: couple of years, and I bet they're remarkably similar. Very

1627
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: all right, And Reich was in a horrible situation in Carolina.

1628
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: We all know that Indy was a total meltdown. I

1629
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: know they didn't make the playoffs with Wentz. They lost

1630
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville last game of the season in twenty one.

1631
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: Should have beaten them whatever. They still had a winning season,

1632
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: but nobody's celebrating that. But it's interesting to me, and

1633
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: we all agree Rabel's a good coach, But are there

1634
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: Vrabel goggles here? I think yeah, a little bit, a

1635
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: little bit maybe, And he'll be the first one to

1636
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: tell you they should do better. They should be better.

1637
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they should be elite. They've had a

1638
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: lot of injuries, but they should be better. And this

1639
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: is organizational planning to right, What was your plan last year?

1640
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: What was your plan this year? You know, because last

1641
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: year you drafted Willis? Were you really ever going to

1642
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: play them? Did you think highly of them? You drafted

1643
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: them in the third round, right, so he slipped and

1644
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: they took them whatever, or maybe it was good value

1645
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: on the draft board that night, and then taking Levis

1646
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: this year? All right, playing Levis? But has it gotten well?

1647
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: You can't say it's gone well. You know, banged up

1648
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: a couple of times.

1649
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: It's awful. It feels like they got caught in mediocre land.

1650
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 5: And then when they would take some steps to Okay,

1651
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 5: we're gonna take some steps back, get our salary cap together,

1652
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 5: make some moves.

1653
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: Then they sign a bunch of guys.

1654
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 5: They signed Brunskilled, they signed Dillard, They gave big money

1655
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 5: to Jeffrey Simmons, and we're like, whoa wait a second,

1656
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 5: this is kind of mixed message.

1657
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: You trade AJ Brown in like what are you doing?

1658
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 3: But then you bring in, you know, other veterans. You're

1659
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 3: letting some other guys walk like it's confusing.

1660
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: Well it is because you were the number one seed

1661
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: right and you trade AJ Brown you get Burks right way.

1662
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: But I don't care who the rookie is. He's not

1663
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: gonna be a J Brown. AJ Brown wasn't a J

1664
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: Brown right away. Took a bit too sure into AJ

1665
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: Brown status. So why not. I know it's a big deal,

1666
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 2: but want to hang on to them, want to pay

1667
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: him and huge get the band back together for another run.

1668
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 3: Now.

1669
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: They probably thought, look, if they thought the problem was Tannehill,

1670
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: then address it right then now with Malik Willis. But

1671
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: with another veteran. How did you get Tannehill? Well, he

1672
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: was insurance for Mariota, right, Go get more insurance, Go

1673
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: get Joe Flacco. I'm just spitballing here, But maybe there

1674
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: was somebody else who could have helped them.

1675
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 5: There are there are, there have been other options, but

1676
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 5: to me, they kind of got caught in between, well,

1677
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 5: what team do we want to be? And I'm not

1678
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 5: saying that you designate your team to tank, but what

1679
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 5: you do is you make decisions that you can look

1680
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 5: at young guys. You make some trades so you get

1681
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 5: more draft capital, you take a look at those young guys,

1682
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 5: and you don't get caught in between what we're gonna

1683
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna draft some young guys, but.

1684
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna bring these veterans.

1685
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 5: You're gonna be right back in mediocreland because guess where

1686
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 5: the Titans. We're the Titans right now in the draft.

1687
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 5: They're like seventh.

1688
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So there's no that they're gonna have their

1689
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: their pick of quarterbacks at that point.

1690
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 5: And that might be a team and I don't know

1691
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 5: what they've got draft capital wise, that's a team that

1692
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 5: they may need the punch to get up to number

1693
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 5: one with the Bear. They would have to give up

1694
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 5: way too much to do that, but they would get

1695
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 5: their pick of quarterbacks. If they don't believe in will Les,

1696
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 5: somebody's gonna drop. That's gonna be attractive. Maybe they take

1697
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 5: a chance. But if I'm them and it's bow Knicks,

1698
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 5: for instance. I'm not taking Bo Nicks.

1699
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: I'm just now it's got to be a significant bone

1700
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: Knicks souped up, like I know, Will Levison here different,

1701
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: but it's kind of I kind of get the same.

1702
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 5: Bonecks can play quarterback. I guess, so Bo Nicks is

1703
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 5: an athletic quarterback. Well, he's a quarterback who's athletic. Will

1704
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 5: Levis is an athlete trying to play quarterback.

1705
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's the end.

1706
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm the Titans, I want Bo Nicks

1707
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 5: or Will Levis. But I don't think I'm not. I

1708
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 5: don't think I'm telling you a seven.

1709
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 3: You know what all this does for me makes me

1710
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: so grateful that we have number seven here. Oh my gosh,

1711
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: I'm so happy.

1712
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: All right, is there an Emperor's new clothes aspect to

1713
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: this s Saturday Night's opponent? And we got to get

1714
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: into the National Championship Final four, semi finals, whatever the

1715
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,839
Speaker 2: heck they're called, because the championship is in this building

1716
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: and their presence has been noticed this week. Okay, it's

1717
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: Texans Radio. Mark Vandermir John Harris with you Tuesday night.

1718
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: Just stretched it out talking about a bunch of different

1719
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 2: things related to this Saturday night's game Texans at Indie

1720
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 2: Win and in the postseason, but it really does feel

1721
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: like a playoff game. Every time somebody says regular season

1722
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: finale to me, I'm thinking, no.

1723
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: This is the playoffs. I really have a playoff.

1724
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: Mindset this week. It's week eighteen. We talked about it

1725
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: yesterday a bit. We have not had a Texan situation

1726
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: like this yet where you have the seventeen game schedule

1727
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: and you're alive this late and this is traditionally playoff

1728
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: week one. So it's playoff week one. Let's go take

1729
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: on the Colt Saturday night. And you know what else

1730
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: I hate, By the way, this is a pet peeve.

1731
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: This is in the category of things that upset me

1732
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: in the hunt thing it's not in the hunt. The

1733
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: Colts are just as much in the hunt as we are.

1734
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: If that's the classification. Really, You know how on the

1735
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: depth chart when they don't want to reveal the charter,

1736
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: they'll say so and so or yeah, they should have

1737
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: Colts or Texans because one of us is getting a spot.

1738
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: It's guaranteed we're playing each other. Put that up on

1739
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: the graphic you're not doing us enough service there because

1740
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 2: I want my publicity. I want my publicity. I want

1741
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: to win more than anything. But you know me, yeah,

1742
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: I know that, I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah,

1743
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: it bothers me a little bit, but all that matters

1744
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: is winning.

1745
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 5: You know, we talked, you talked about the college football

1746
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 5: playoff and they got the national championship here. So each

1747
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 5: week starting in late October, they have a college Football

1748
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 5: Playoff show. This is what the rankings are now, this

1749
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 5: is the rankings, now, this is the rankings now. It's

1750
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 5: kind of it kind of set them up for a

1751
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 5: lot of controversy because the last how many of our

1752
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 5: rankings at Florida State in the top four. Yeah, State

1753
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 5: didn't lose, and Florida State was not in the top four. Now,

1754
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 5: obviously there's no Jordan Travis, So okay, there's complications.

1755
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 3: But you set yourself up for issues like that.

1756
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 5: So you have the Colts in the hunt, in the

1757
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 5: hunt or right there at number seven, and then when

1758
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 5: we beat them on Saturday night, well, guess what, they're

1759
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 5: out and the Texans are in. We're no longer in

1760
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 5: the hunt. We're in the game. We're in the playoffs,

1761
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 5: and so yeah, I'm with you on that.

1762
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: There's there's probably way you could put that together a

1763
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: little bit better. But it's just one of those little

1764
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: pet peeves, maybe more than a pet. Okay, you're a peeve.

1765
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 3: I haven't done it yet. Is there a way? Is

1766
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: there a way that both the Colts and the Texans

1767
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 3: could get in? No? Not at all.

1768
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: No, because if you lose, you're out. Now, if you tie, maybe,

1769
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to look at it.

1770
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: What if you tie? What if you tie?

1771
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 5: In the Carolina and uh sorry, Tennessee beats Jacksonville, jackson

1772
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 5: would be ninety eight, Both teams will be nine to

1773
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 5: seven and one. The Colts would win the division. But

1774
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 5: you have we'd have to have the Steelers lose. We'd

1775
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 5: have to have the Steelers lose, then the Tylers lose.

1776
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 3: We tie. Yeah, I think we're in and Jacksonville loses.

1777
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: Pretty sure, we're in. We're in. I'm pretty sure. But

1778
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 3: nobody wants to see that. No, especially these two teams

1779
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 3: out Rooting for the Titans, I'm gonna be anyway, although

1780
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: I will root for the Jags if the Colts happened

1781
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: to get a win over the Textans Saturday night.

1782
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 5: Okay, we do not want to tie if the Jags win.

1783
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 5: So let's say Titans win. Yeah, both of us could

1784
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 5: get in with a tie and the Ravens being the

1785
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 5: Steelers and the Titans being.

1786
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: The Steelers are gonna beat the Ravens. You know this

1787
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: is True's gonna be the Ravens. The Ravens are gonna

1788
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: sit everybody. The Steelers have to have it.

1789
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 5: No, it me be interesting because this is what the

1790
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 5: Ravens faced in twenty nineteen and a two degree. The

1791
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 5: Ravens are so good that they clinched the number one seed,

1792
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 5: I think with two weeks left to go into season, right,

1793
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 5: So they had those two weeks to manage, then they

1794
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 5: had to buy week, then they had to play Tennessee, and.

1795
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: They were they were totally disjointed.

1796
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 5: So I'm curious how John Harball and I saw yesterday

1797
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 5: where Harball was kind of going back and forth on

1798
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 5: I just saw the headline not sure if Lamar Jackson's

1799
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 5: going to play on Saturday.

1800
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: Because that's the game in front of us, the Steelers

1801
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: and the Ravens, because they're going into a buy no

1802
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 3: matter what, they're going into a buy.

1803
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: No matter what sit them, they don't play them. There's play.

1804
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough way maybe playing for half.

1805
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,520
Speaker 5: Remember two thousand and nine here Patriot tronedt the playoffs,

1806
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 5: couldn't improve their stock or their their their seating.

1807
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 3: And Brady was in and he was out. Hoyer was in,

1808
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: he was out. Hang on.

1809
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 2: Brady was out at the end of the first half,

1810
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: and then he came back. I was all happy that

1811
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: day because I thought Brady's done for the days and

1812
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: have the first winning season in Texans history.

1813
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking I'm.

1814
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: The DiCaprio meme at that point, Tom Brady, I.

1815
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: Was supposed to be what are you doing? And Wes

1816
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: Welker went down in the first half? Did he not?

1817
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: And you have Brady in the game and Mario Williams

1818
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 2: hit the snot out of him a couple of times,

1819
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: and Belichick pulled him out and put Hoyer back in

1820
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 2: at the end of the game because hey, I cannot

1821
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: afford to lose Brady.

1822
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 3: What am I crazy? That was? I'm sure he.

1823
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: Took heat for that up in New England. Brady back

1824
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: into the game. They didn't need it, and then they

1825
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: end up losing anyway, right, they got handled. That's the

1826
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: season that they spent time with Belichick. NFL films did

1827
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: There's a Great Football Life or whatever one of those

1828
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: shows on Belichick. In fact, that kind of makes you

1829
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: like Belichick a bit that looking back at that season,

1830
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: because you see a personality emerged there Johnny Epper's new clothes,

1831
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: which is an extreme way of saying the Colts on defense,

1832
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: I look at all the people. I'm looking at the

1833
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: pass rush. I'm looking at Buckner getting sacks. I'm looking

1834
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 2: at Quitty pay getting sacks. I'm looking at e J.

1835
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: Speed, who's one of the great linebackers in this league

1836
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: at this point.

1837
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they have guys now here. Franklin has a

1838
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: billion tackles. But then I look at the collective here.

1839
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh, they must be really good in one

1840
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: category or another. And then I'm looking I'm like, running

1841
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: game not so much, right, I mean, they're twenty seventh

1842
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: against the run, they allow one twenty seven per game.

1843
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's see passing stats. They must be really good against

1844
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: the pass. They're middle of the pack to twenty four

1845
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 2: per game. Well, what about scoring defense, It's keeping the

1846
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: point total down right, it's gotta be that. Nope, they

1847
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: give up twenty four point five points per game. They're

1848
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: in the bottom six of the NFL in points per

1849
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: game allowed. Well, then it must be turnover March and

1850
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 2: how are they doing it too? Eh, they're above middle

1851
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: of the pack. But it's not great.

1852
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 3: They're plus three, so what gives they're getting pressured? They

1853
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 3: win games, they've won more than they've.

1854
01:21:55,439 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: Lost, but the defensive numbers collectively aren't popping at all.

1855
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: In fact, they're unimpressive. I wouldn't be surprised if you

1856
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: showed me a seven and nine record for this team

1857
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: based on these numbers.

1858
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 3: And you've you could make that case.

1859
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 5: I mean, if Mac Jones makes one throw a good

1860
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 5: throw in Germany, they lose that game. There have been

1861
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 5: other games along the way that they have found a

1862
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 5: way to win.

1863
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: In Titans game, they had to destroy the putter.

1864
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 5: I know Ryan Stonehouse, they didn't take him out to

1865
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 5: get a win in Tennessee. So and that, that, to

1866
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: me is what you've realized Tennessee's broken.

1867
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 2: Like whoa, yeah, if you're if you're allowing a hunter

1868
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: to get hit twice that.

1869
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: Hard, that goes on ir.

1870
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 5: I think there was a there was a term that

1871
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 5: I would use in geometry, and it applies to a

1872
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 5: lot of things.

1873
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 3: But the hole is greater to some of its parts.

1874
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: Like the parts are pretty good. Like, don't get me wrong,

1875
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: the parts are pretty good. I mean Stuart and Buckner.

1876
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: We talked to Nick on Monday and he brings us

1877
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: to up. But I bring those two up all the time.

1878
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 3: I just think blocking those two is such a difficult ask.

1879
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: I mean, Demico knows. I mean he had divorce for

1880
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: a while there in San Francisco. I mean they had

1881
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 3: ebicom up in San Francisco, so he knows. He knows

1882
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: those two guys.

1883
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 5: But one thing Chris Ballard GM has always done is

1884
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 5: he's always brought in trenches dudes with a lead.

1885
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 3: Athleticism subthed to elite.

1886
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 5: I mean, Buckner's got a lead athleticism, and then he's enormous.

1887
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 5: You know, Stewart was not a guy that you know, nobody,

1888
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 5: nobody really knew of Stuart. He was playing at D

1889
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 5: two school, but his grainy tape was like, oh my god,

1890
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 5: he's not do that in the NFL?

1891
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 3: Is he?

1892
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's going to And I mean he's just

1893
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 5: a brick house and you can't really move them.

1894
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,879
Speaker 3: So they're they're just really good together.

1895
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: But what they're starting to get, they're getting better play

1896
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 5: from Do you heard Nick talk about that do Dingbo?

1897
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 5: He's played a lot better he was. He to me

1898
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 5: was gonna be a top fifty candidate in draft, and

1899
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 5: then he got hurt and so it was like, where

1900
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: do you put this guy? Not really sure?

1901
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: But at Vanderbilt he was really intriguing because you move

1902
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 3: up and down a lot of scrimmage.

1903
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: He'd rush from the edge from inside. Nobody could block him.

1904
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: So it's kind of a the hole is greater than

1905
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 5: the some of its parts. But keep in mind, even

1906
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 5: in week two, when we were kind of mucking around,

1907
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 5: didn't know what kind of team we were going to be,

1908
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 5: we threw the ball well against him that day.

1909
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 3: Nico got what he wanted to against them.

1910
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 5: Now they've got Juju Brantce aka Julius Prince and Jalen Jones,

1911
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,959
Speaker 5: who Aggie fans know from last year. Those two rookies

1912
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 5: are starting and they're playing pretty well. But this is

1913
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 5: Nico Collins they're facing.

1914
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: And Nico Stroud matured. That was week two.

1915
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 3: C J. Stroud. He did quite turn it. Late in

1916
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 3: that game. You started to see.

1917
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: Some things you thought, huh, and then the week later

1918
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: you go to Jacksonville and light them up. This is

1919
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: a seasoned Stroud they will be facing on Saturday night.

1920
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: That's It's a difference, absolutely, And I don't know what

1921
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: the status will be for Kenny Moore. Kenny Moore number

1922
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 3: twenty three is always the guy worry about why because

1923
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 3: he's so smart. He always got to Sean always. He

1924
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 3: was so good about knowing where Sean was going with

1925
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 3: the football. He just he I mean, he's five eight,

1926
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 3: he's a he's a Bucks seventy. But if he's healthy

1927
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: and playing at his high level, there there aren't many

1928
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: players that are better than him as a football player.

1929
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: He's incredible. Now Sanders nightmares the right right now?

1930
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 5: Can he plays the game a little bit differently but

1931
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 5: almost but saying because the football IQ is incredible. So

1932
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 5: he was an active last week, but he should be

1933
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 5: back for this game. The Stars saying that he should

1934
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 5: be back for this game. But if he's banged up,

1935
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 5: you got to kind of figure that out. I just

1936
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 5: hate him kind of lurking in the secondary because he's

1937
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 5: the one that kind of keeps all his pieces together.

1938
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 5: But there's no Julian Blackman, and and that's you know,

1939
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 5: and if Rodney Thomas misjudges another deep ball, maybe that works.

1940
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: Out for us.

1941
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: He made it play last week. Look, I was on

1942
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: Colts Meet today and I urged Jonathan Taylor to retire

1943
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: quickly because for his safety. And you know, you want

1944
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: to get out while they getting's good. You know, it's

1945
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: not quitting when you're quitting while you're ahead. And he's

1946
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: ahead right right now. I have a winning record, So

1947
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: it's a good time to retire, all right. Coming up,

1948
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: let's get back into it with the National semifinals and

1949
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: more on this game Texans calt Saturday night. It's Texans Radio,

1950
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Mark vandermir and John Harris with you. Keeping your company

1951
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Tuesday night fun as the Texans are in.

1952
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: A fun situation. I mean, let's enjoy the moment.

1953
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: Here Houston at Indy Saturday night win and in. I

1954
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: love the vibe from the players. I love what they're saying.

1955
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: They're saying all the right things and it's a beautiful thing,

1956
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 2: all right. Last night college football semi Finals, Rose Bowl,

1957
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: Michigan knocks off Alabama.

1958
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: Look.

1959
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: I like Milrow, I really do, but I hate the

1960
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: Bama Crimson tied. Sorry, local guys, local guys who are

1961
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: like a few feet away from me. I love you guys,

1962
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: but I just don't like the Crimson tide. Sorry, I

1963
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: don't like Nick Saban.

1964
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 3: Really.

1965
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: I actually used to like Alabama a lot more before

1966
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: they got the Nick Saban level of good.

1967
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 5: You're you're okay with Christian Harris and you're you're okay

1968
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 5: with those Yeah?

1969
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love those guys, you know that.

1970
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1971
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1972
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: But I enjoyed watching Alabama lose. I didn't want to

1973
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: see Milroe get stuffed like that. Necessarily. I wanted it

1974
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: to be somebody else's quote fault. But I blamed play

1975
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: calling in that situation.

1976
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I didn't like that play call.

1977
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: It was awful.

1978
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1979
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 4: I get it.

1980
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: You spread them out. You hope that you have a gap.

1981
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: If there's no gap, you have to have another option.

1982
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 5: Well, a great job bringing Sandra Still the Nickel off

1983
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 5: the edge because the Polar run a quarterback power. The

1984
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 5: Polar wasn't sure he pinned the outside guy, but Sandristill

1985
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 5: was able, and I think Milroe saw him. Milro saw

1986
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 5: Sanders still come out the corner, so he knew he

1987
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 5: had to cut it back, and he cut it right

1988
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 5: back into Boy, that guy is going to be a

1989
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 5: big time player. Fifty five kid named Graham. He's not

1990
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 5: a Survide high school survite. A few years ago they were.

1991
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 3: They were incredible during I think it was during a

1992
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: COVID year, of the year before the COVID year, maybe

1993
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 3: maybe the year after COVID.

1994
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 5: They had three dudes. They had receivers at Arizona. Who's

1995
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 5: gonna be a first round pick? That a quarterback Noah

1996
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 5: Fafida who's also in Arizona, And those guys beat Oklahoma

1997
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 5: and they had Graham on the inside, and I'm watching them.

1998
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 5: I would watch them a lot because Survided and Modern

1999
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 5: Day were linking up a few times during that year.

2000
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 5: I would watch him, Like man fifty five as a dude.

2001
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 5: He goes to Michigan as a freshman's a good year.

2002
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 5: He replaces Mazzi Smith this year and he's been incredible.

2003
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 5: He'll be a first round pick after next year. He's

2004
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 5: going into He's just a sophomore. He was key on

2005
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 5: that play and he took over that game against Alabama.

2006
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 5: Alabama and this this goes to for all you young

2007
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 5: coaches out there. Yeah, here's a lesson. Go, here's a lesson.

2008
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 3: Right.

2009
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 5: There's some simple things in football, right well that are

2010
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 5: supposed to be simple. Lining up supposed to be simple,

2011
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 5: knowing what your assignment is supposed to be simple, Snaps,

2012
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 5: shotgun or under center supposed to be simple.

2013
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 3: If you have issues with any of those.

2014
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 5: Things early in the year and you don't spend the

2015
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:11,560
Speaker 5: time extra time cleaning it up, it will haunt you

2016
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: later in the season. I promise you fix it in September.

2017
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 5: Don't let it kill you in a playoff game against

2018
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 5: South Lake Carol because you didn't try and fix the

2019
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 5: snapping situation, or you didn't make some sort of plan

2020
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 5: be like, hey, we can't do these shotgun snaps, then

2021
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 5: we go to figure out how to do things under center.

2022
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 3: If you made as far as playing South Lake Carroll,

2023
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 3: you did pretty well, right exactly. That's my point. Don't

2024
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 3: let something simple like that.

2025
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 5: And that's and I bring that up because McLauchlin, the

2026
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 5: center for Alabama has had bad snaps.

2027
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 3: All year oh long, all year long. I know people

2028
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: saw them in a game like, oh no, it was

2029
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: all year long. I know that's tough.

2030
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 5: It's kind of a physical mistake in some sense, but

2031
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 5: it's also a mental one with those shotgun snaps. But

2032
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 5: coaches out there, if you don't fix it in sept

2033
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: I promise you will haunt you in December.

2034
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Here's my take, And it's not that hot. I think

2035
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: Alabama's not that good. No, they're not the level of

2036
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: excellence that we've seen from previous Alabama teams.

2037
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: And I knew that going in.

2038
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: That's why I was upset that the committee let them

2039
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: in with the one loss to Texas, which also lost

2040
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: last night. And this is why I'm still beefed about

2041
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: Florida State not getting in because they were undefeated. You

2042
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: allow an undefeated team in and don't come at me

2043
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 2: with a look what happened against Georgia in the bowl game,

2044
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: that's irrelevant to this. That's butterfly effect. History changed people left.

2045
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: You know the rest of the story. You let them in.

2046
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't care that the quarterbacks out. You don't make

2047
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: that decision for them. You allow them to compete. They've

2048
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 2: earned the right to compete. What the hell is it

2049
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: all about. It's about you win, and you're in right.

2050
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 3: No, And to your point earlier about the rankings, you

2051
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 3: have the rankings all season long.

2052
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Ah, you know, the rankings really don't mean anything anymore.

2053
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 2: Now that we're in the committee room and we have

2054
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: to think about we have to let Nick Saban in

2055
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 2: this thing because we want the huge ratings. And I

2056
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 2: get that. I understand TV. And by the way, while

2057
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: we're on the subject of TV.

2058
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 3: I got one for you on TV. All right, So

2059
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 3: this is related because it's the viewing experience. Don't stop

2060
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: the game every second to look at something. Don't be

2061
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: the NBA. What are you doing?

2062
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: Do challenges like the NFL. Look, make the coaches decide.

2063
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good call or not.

2064
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the red flag. Do that, and do

2065
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 2: it in the final two minutes with the reviews because

2066
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 2: you can't stop the game every second like this. It's ridiculous.

2067
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: And then the clock has changed. But what you've done

2068
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 2: is fill it up with commercials. More the three minute breaks.

2069
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: I saw this game one I was in Aggie Land

2070
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: and you see the countdown clock. You go to break

2071
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 2: and it's it says three minutes. I'm thinking three minutes

2072
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: is too long. NFL breaks are two twenty. By the way,

2073
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 2: Oh it's only forty seconds. Mark, that's a lot of

2074
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: time when you.

2075
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 5: Add on all you do that for how many of

2076
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 5: twelve breaks or whatever during a game.

2077
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 2: You know what the NFL did when they went to

2078
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 2: two twenty, they eliminated that after kickoff, ridiculous break. They

2079
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,919
Speaker 2: eliminated that, which was awesome, really improved the viewing experience.

2080
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 3: Two twenty a little longer to.

2081
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Wait through because they had to even things out, but

2082
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 2: it's okay. You deal with it and it's a better

2083
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 2: viewing experience.

2084
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 5: Did you see the Jaden Blue fumble where he caught

2085
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 5: the screen? Yeah, and he got hit and the ball

2086
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 5: is out as he is staying like running right and

2087
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 5: they said, oh no, he's down.

2088
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. There were a couple of those last night.

2089
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: I was mind blowingly dumb, like, what what are they

2090
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 3: looking at? That crew? Is? Uh, that's something for you

2091
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: as it pertains to viewing.

2092
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 5: Cow With this, seven NFL films projects reached number one

2093
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 5: across five different platforms in twenty twenty three. Ready for

2094
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:43,480
Speaker 5: This ESPN plus the Ravens documentary Bullies of Baltimore, Netflix,

2095
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 5: Quarterback Max both Hard Knocks with the Jets and Hard

2096
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 5: Knocks with the Dolphins. Roku the pick is in a

2097
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 5: show they did in Prime video. Had the documentary on

2098
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 5: Kelsey in the documentary on Barry Sanders by by Barry.

2099
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 3: Alright.

2100
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 5: So the seven projects across five different platforms.

2101
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 3: Number one number one, but not live sport doc number

2102
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 3: one category.

2103
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Not live no, no no, So sport not live programming

2104
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: number one. That's huge, and that means they're not going away.

2105
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 2: They're not going away anytime soon.

2106
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: No, they're gonna be getting more. They're gonna be getting

2107
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 3: more more.

2108
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 5: NFL thirty for thirties, Ken Rogers, what more do you have?

2109
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 5: What do you got?

2110
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, I'm at the owners meetings every year. This

2111
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 2: is all they talk about. They need to reach the

2112
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: young viewer and all that.

2113
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 3: They're dominating content.

2114
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 2: They're dominating in the off field and they want to

2115
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: because they saw what F one did on Netflix and

2116
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 2: that was a big eye opener to everybody in sports

2117
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,520
Speaker 2: and now everybody's trying to get it done, Golf, tennis,

2118
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: all of them. I'm not surprised there, Johnny. That's that's

2119
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 2: a big, big revelation really, and they're going to continue

2120
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: to do it because clearly live they crush everything in

2121
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: their path. The Christmas ratings, Florio talking about they got

2122
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 2: to play on Christmas, even if it's on Wednesday, and

2123
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting. You and I came up

2124
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: with a plan, so did he, in order to get

2125
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 2: it done. And I think they could get it done.

2126
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 2: But we'll find out a whole lot more. I can't

2127
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: wait and you can't wait, and we all can't wait

2128
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: for Saturday seven fifteen kick at Indy. It's the Texans

2129
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 2: and the Colts for the playoffs, and we're gonna be

2130
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 2: on the air four fifteen with the pregame Texans Countdown,

2131
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: presented by a modelo especial and we'll have extra points

2132
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: for you on Friday night after Nightline on ABC thirteen

2133
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Speaker 2: and on many of our Texans TV affiliate stations around

2134
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Speaker 2: the Lone Star State and beyond, because I know many

2135
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: of you are listening from around the country and around

2136
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: the world in some cases, and we always appreciate that.

2137
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Have a great night everyone, Texans matchup on the way.

2138
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: If you can't catch it tonight, catch it later via

2139
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: podcast on the Texans app or Houston Texans dot com.

2140
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Speaker 2: Go Texans,