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As always, 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 6: we do not take your viewership nor your listenership for granted. 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 6: It is Monday, October third, twenty twenty two, Episode three 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 6: sixty seven of the Antik and Florian Podcast. Scale of 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 6: one to ten. Cody, how good does Kenny look today? 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 6: You might as well start watching this show if you're 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 6: only listening to it at this point in time. He 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 6: had to go to one of his children's schools this morning, 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 6: and everybody is the beneficiary because of that. It's like 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 6: one of the three times, I think in the you know, 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 6: nearly four hundred episode history of the podcast, you've had 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 6: a collar on. So good morning, good to see you. 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here in my formal attire, nice plaid shirt. 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 7: Yeah. 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: Man, I did a little talk on Peru today for 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: my daughter's school. Give a little background on that, and uh, 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: that's why, that's why I'm so snazzy right now. 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 6: I was wondering what was going on today, not appresition 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 6: about brilliant jiu jitsu, the great nation of Today's episode 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 6: of the anticin Florian podcast brought to you in past 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 6: by It's in the contract with UFC fight Pass that 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: I do these spots in a Boston accent. 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It's hard for me to 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 6: watch that, but if the viewers are so glad, you 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 6: could certainly check it out, but hard to listen to it. 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm just glad our balls dropped, you know, eventually finally 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: took a while. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: January twentieth, two thousany twelve, all right, a lot to 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 6: get to. 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Today. 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 6: We will recap Jan Shaunon's successful first main event offering 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: in the UFC as she gets past Mackenzie Dern. A 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 6: lot of injuries over the weekend. We'll talk a little 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 6: bit about Aaron Pico's dislocated shoulder and some leg breaks 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 6: in MMA and in the NFL. But I want to 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 6: begin if I could Kenny with Jan Channon, because what 62 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 6: a performance, what a job over the last twelve months 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: by this individual putting herself in a position to handle 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: this Mackenzie durn challenge, which is so unique in mixed 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 6: martial arts. It's Yan Channon by unanimous excuse me, majority 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 6: decision forty eight forty seven times to forty seven to 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: forty seven from the dissenting judge that was Mike Bell, 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 6: who had a ten eight for Mackenzie Dern in round five. 69 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 6: I believe Ken Filly your thoughts on one, Yan Channon 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 6: moving on up at one hundred and fifteen pounds. 71 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yanchan Shannon and team Alpamel really did their homework. 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: You know, when you're looking at an opponent, you have 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: to see where they are strong. With Mackenzie turn there 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: is no mystery. She is an absolute beast when it 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: comes to Brazilian jiu jitsu in her submission game, and 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: very few teams approach it from the standpoint of let's 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: make our fighter unkillable first, then build a strategy around that. 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: And it seems like that's what they did here. Let's 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: put you in all the worst positions. Let's let's put 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: her in that oma plot of position, Let's put her 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: in that arm bar position. Those are the two moves, 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: and you could say the knee bar for Mackenzie Dern 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: as well, but you know, getting her used to defending 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: those types of submissions are critical to the success of 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: any fighter that is going to face someone like McKenzie, 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: and it was clear that Jan was in those positions 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: and training and she was very comfortable because of that. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: You could see her composure. The way that that she 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: was defending I thought was brilliant. And then her overall game, 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: uh gave strategy into that fight against Mackenzie was significant. 91 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: I think, you know, McKenzie struggles with footwork, she struggles 92 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: to get into the proper range, and I thought Jan 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: did a great job from the outside landing those shots 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: to the legs of Mackenzie, you know, landing some overhands 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: that barely missed, and land some hard shots. Mackenzie has 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: quite the chin, but I thought it was a great 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: job by yan chan Nan and her team. 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 6: So I've taken six Brazilian jiu jitsu classes in my life. 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 6: One of them I ended up drinking gatorade on the 100 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 6: curb outside, So probably five and a half classes. I 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 6: missed a good chunk of that second class because of 102 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 6: all the forward roles. Thanks Pahoopa, But your I Faber 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: sort of mentioned the word simple in our fighter meeting 104 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 6: that some of these defenses actually are over complicated by 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 6: some people and are pretty simple. Inherently, and I think 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: it kind of dovetails a little bit with what you're 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 6: saying in terms of finding these particular areas in which 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: Mackenzie turned is strong. The Oma Plata is one of them, 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: and just making sure that Yan Channon is so drilled 110 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 6: in that particular area that she'll be able to execute 111 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 6: on fight night because they have the athlete seemingly who 112 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 6: can execute. 113 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, so much of it can 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: be solved with just simple positioning, you know, putting your 115 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: head and your body in the right place, having your 116 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: arms on the inside of their arms, you know, making 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: sure you're in the right position at the right time 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: instead of over complicating things with crazy counters. And you know, 119 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: for Yan starting to go for submissions, no, no, no, 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: We're gonna keep it simple. Keep your head and your 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: inside position and just do that, and you could take 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: away a lot of someone's submission game, especially if you're 123 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: in that top position, so you could see she worked, 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: you know, very hard, both on top and in bottom 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: from a lot of those tough positions. 126 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: And I do think it's time you start acknowledging some 127 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 6: of these coaches. You know, sometimes I feel like Youriyah 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 6: Fabers California flair, I can serve to like discredit him 129 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 6: in the eyes of some people in terms of his 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 6: MMA value. I mean, certainly Danny Castillo is starting to 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 6: get some credit publicly, even if only on social media, 132 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 6: and I think he deserves that. And obviously, Joey Rodriguez 133 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: the boxing coach, has been a guy that people have 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 6: lauded from time to time. So great job by the corner, 135 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 6: great job by the athlete. It gets me very excited 136 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 6: about what Yan Shaanan can now do in this strawweight division. 137 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 6: When you look at it, Carlos Bars is the champs. 138 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 6: She will defend the belt against Yong Way Lee, who 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 6: is the number two ranked contender. That is next month 140 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 6: at Madison Square Garden. Rosnama Unis is the number one contender, 141 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 6: third rank Marinarodriguez seemingly has a head to head win 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: against like every one of these people on paper, right, 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 6: She'll she'll face Amanda Lemosh, who is eighth in the world. 144 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 6: That was gonna be at UFC two eighty that's now 145 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 6: November fifth, and it's not a main event, so that's 146 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: a three rounder. Jessica and Raj's number four still bouncing 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: between divisions right now. She had talked about fighting Mano Fuere, 148 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 6: but then pulled out of that fight. Mackenzie durned five, 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 6: Jan chan On six, Tshatorres seven, and then Amanda Lemosh eight. 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 6: So I think this is big if you're the Fall River, 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 6: Massachusetts native Tisha Torres ken flow right number seven in 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 6: the world. I think there's a good chance she gets 153 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 6: a fight against Andrage or Chaunan or even nama Unis 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 6: in a rematch in a main event. What do you 155 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: think for Jan Chounan, I mean, I guess she could 156 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: fight Marinarodriguez again if Amanda Lemosh isn't a problem in 157 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: a few weeks here, I mean nama Yunis and Yan 158 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: Channan I think makes some sense in a main event setting. 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: I think Chaunan has a good style for five rounds. 160 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 6: I guess not out of the realm of possibility that 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 6: she can fight for the belt. Next, what do you 162 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 6: make of the one hundred and fifteen pounds vision now 163 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 6: with Shaunan in and Darren sort of taking a little 164 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: bit of a step. 165 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Back, Well, that was a huge win for her, you know. 166 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: I think it will give Mackenzie an opportunity to kind of, 167 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: you know, we calibrate, look for another fight that that 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: would be advantageous to her stylistically, so that she could 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: build on, you know, her takedown and striking game, which 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: I think is lacking a little bit. That's what's kind 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: of preventing her from moving into the you know, upper 172 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: echelon of that division, which is very competitive. As you 173 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: mentioned all those great names. I think Rosena Munis against 174 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: Jan chou Nan is an interesting one. I also think 175 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Tsha Torres should be in that mix as well. And 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: as you pointed out, you know, during that fight between 177 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Yan Chounan and Mackenzie Dern, I thought Tisha actually won 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: that fight. I thought she just edged it out against Mackenzie. 179 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: So I think she deserves, you know, a big fight 180 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: as well. 181 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was Tisha's last fight UFC two seventy three 182 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: back in April, split decision for Mackenzie Dern. So, you know, 183 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: Marlon chito vera teammate of Mackenzie Dern, has a lot 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 6: of positive things to say, you know, especially in terms 185 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 6: of her hands and the power and her ability to crack. 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 6: You know, he feels like when she is in the 187 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: gym NonStop twenty four to seven, three sixty five. You 188 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 6: know she has all the makings of being a future champion. 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 6: Mackenzie doesn't seem to be in any great rush to contend. 190 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: Even going into this fight week, she was talking about 191 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 6: at least one more fight before fighting for the championship. 192 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 6: So I do believe she's committed to the cause, but 193 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 6: there's no denying that now in two UFC main events, 194 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 6: she hasn't, you know, necessarily put that best foot forward 195 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 6: in terms of her strategy. I asked her in the 196 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: fighter meeting, like, how do you resist the temptation and 197 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 6: not just like jump guard? Or do you hear people 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: who say, why isn't your whole strategy just to jump 199 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 6: guard and try to create as many of those ground 200 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: situations as humanly possible. Now, she's already a better striker 201 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: than Ben Askron with respect, She's already any better striker 202 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: than Damian Maya some other people who maybe want to 203 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 6: get a floor fight at all costs. Michael Kiessa, what 204 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: do you say to people who say, Mackenzie darn should 205 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 6: really just be even more forceful in terms of trying 206 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 6: to jump guard and get this fight to the ground 207 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: by any means necessary. Because this is a small octagon 208 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 6: canflow thirty feet, is going to present some more problems 209 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: in theory. 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. I think that's pretty accurate. You know. 211 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: I think that Mackenzie still has some work to do 212 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: in regards to her stance, in regards to keeping that 213 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: chin tucked a little bit. Her footwork needs some work, 214 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: but she is making improvement, There's no question about it. 215 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: That takes time. Those are the little things that take 216 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: the most amount of time. As far as getting to guard, 217 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: I would have liked to see it. I think she's 218 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: that good when you're that dangerous and able to create 219 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: those kind of opportunities. I would have liked to see 220 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: her sit to guard with that underhook almost from half guard, 221 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: where she can immediately kind of turn that into a 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: single leg half guard situation where she could either get 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: underneath or start to take the back or finish that 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 3: single leg on someone like Jan shaw Nan. So I 225 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: would have liked to see maybe a little bit more aggression, 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: especially when it comes to wasting energy up against the fence, 227 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: and that was an issue that I had to deal with, 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: you know, you know, trying to get single legs, My 229 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: single leg. I just didn't really understand how to be 230 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: most efficient with it, and I think Mackenzie could utilize 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: maybe some more guard polls in that type situation. She 232 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: should continue to work on her wrestling, but I agree, 233 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: I think that she probably would have created more opportunities 234 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: for her to win that fight if she just went 235 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: to her guard immediately, maybe not a full guard, but 236 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: something like a half guard with an underhoof something like that, 237 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: where she can maybe attack more freely into subsubmissions. 238 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 6: And Doctor Florian, if you're listening, I understand Kenny was 239 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 6: such a good soccer player that you know, we didn't 240 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 6: put him in wrestling, right. Did you have a wrestle kenball? 241 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: I did not out did I went to you know, 242 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: Dovi A Sherburne didn't even have a wrestling team. So 243 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: I wish. I wish because I didn't do anything that 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: went played soccer in the fall and then I played 245 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: tennis you know, spring summertime, but in that winter time, 246 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: I didn't you know, I wasn't a basketball guy, so 247 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: I needed wrestling. Something like wrestling would have been perfect. 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 6: My son is tracking to weigh one hundred and three 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 6: pounds as a high school senior, so maybe he'll be 250 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 6: of a lot of value at that point in time 251 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: to the Saint Andrews High School wrestling team. So I 252 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: can't profess to you how impressed I was with Yan 253 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 6: Channon just in her ability to navigate this particular challenge. 254 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: And I said on the broadcast she almost celebrated as 255 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 6: if this was a world championship, because I don't think 256 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 6: you can overstate how much confidence it will give this 257 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 6: athlete to get through this annoying, for lack of a 258 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 6: better adjective, challenge and now draw a striker potentially for 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 6: the title. You know, like this Mackenzie durned training camp 260 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 6: for a lot of these drawweights. I just think has 261 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 6: to be mentally, emotionally, physically very difficult. And Yan Channon, 262 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: I thought, just passed this test with flying colors, and 263 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 6: I think it will forge her now as she moves forward. 264 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: So I one hundred percent agree the work that she 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: put into that fight and going against someone who's as 266 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: dangerous Mackenzie on the ground and succeeding in a lot 267 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: of positions that a lot of other women in that 268 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: division wouldn't have is going to propel her forward, you know, 269 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: with confidence, with her skill level. Those are the type 270 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: of fights that could change a woman's career. So big 271 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: big win there, all right. 272 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 6: So in terms of the mixed martial arts scoring, I 273 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 6: was too late in trying to book Sean she and 274 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 6: today I was trying to do so because I still 275 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 6: don't know how he scored rounds two and rounds five 276 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: of this main event. And he's an opinion that I 277 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 6: care about candidly in the space. So one of the judges, 278 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 6: Mike Bell, gave round five a ten eight for Mackenzie 279 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 6: durn Now. I largely as a thesis statement, A'm all 280 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 6: for more liberal ten eights. I didn't happen to see 281 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: one in this fight. But in closing the book on 282 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 6: this fight, Kennedy, I just wanted your thoughts on the scoring. 283 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 6: I had Yan Shannon winning the fight three rounds to two. 284 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 6: I gave Mackenzie during a ten to nine in rounds 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: two and rounds five. I give Dirn a lot of 286 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 6: credit for round five, and I thought it was getting 287 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 6: closer to a ten eight. I didn't see a ten 288 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 6: eight in the fight. How'd you have it? 289 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I was really trying to look with 290 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: a critical eye, you know, I had seen our producer, 291 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: our star producer, Cody Merrow tweet about a ten eight 292 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: in round five, so I was looking to see if 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: it was warranted. I didn't think you know, those one 294 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: a few times. I disagree with Cody, but I didn't 295 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: think it was warranted there. You know, what I'm looking 296 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: for in a ten eight is, yes, there should be 297 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: a good amount of grappling dominance, but it should revolve 298 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: around a dominance that is submission oriented. Where, in my opinion, 299 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: where you're showing some kind of damaging stuff in regards 300 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: to submissions. Did you tweak their knee with a leg lock? 301 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Did you destroy their ankle and now they're limping? Did 302 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: you get so tight with those weird naked chokes at 303 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: their head looked like it was about to pop off. 304 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: Are you landing strikes that is weakening and damaging your opponent? 305 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: I didn't see those type of strikes. Those were rabbit 306 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: type shots. You know that if they were on the feet, 307 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: would it be very impressive. And they were on the ground, 308 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: kind of cross range, kind of quick succession of like 309 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: machine gun type little shots that to me, weren't doing 310 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: anything positionally to weaken Yon show Nan and even at 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: the end. Was what was indicative of that was at 312 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: the very end when she escaped that like kind of 313 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: which I didn't think was a very strong arm bar 314 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: attemptor really she got on top and immediately with a 315 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: tremendous amount of energy started unleashing flurries. Wasn't always successful, 316 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: so to me, it showed that that didn't really do 317 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: anything to Yon shown non on a major scale. Was 318 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: it a clear ten to nine? Absolutely? 319 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Round two for me. I actually was talking to 320 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 6: our producer Zat Candido in the truck, and if memory serves, 321 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 6: I think we were more aligned that round two. There 322 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 6: was an alma plota there that seemed a little bit 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: more severehow on, So maybe if I was looking for 324 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 6: a ten A it would have been round two. But 325 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: either way, Mike Bell is an exceptional judge, and largely 326 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: I think you have to get aggressive with ten eights, 327 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 6: and I'm happy that he was aggressive, even if I 328 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 6: don't necessarily agree in the case of this particular round, 329 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 6: our star producer Cody Merrow had a pretty hefty bet 330 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 6: on Randy Brown by decision in the co main event, 331 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 6: and he gets that ticket home. He defeats Uncle Trinaldo 332 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 6: as he called him at our fighter meeting Francisco Masa 333 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 6: Randuba Trinaldo, who was born August twenty fourth, nineteen seventy eight. Dang, 334 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 6: what'd you make at the co main event as Randy 335 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 6: Brown gets it done on all three judges scorecards two 336 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 6: rounds to one. 337 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, it's crazy that Trinaldo, you know, 338 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: two years younger than I am, is still fighting in 339 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: the UFC and fighting these speaks at one hundred and 340 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: seventy pounds. You know, he's in that weird weight class 341 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: that's like one hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: five pounds and he's going against the guy and Randy Brown. 343 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: Just that made him look really small. But yeah, man, listen, 344 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: I thought it was It was a pretty conservative approach 345 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: there for Randy. I think he did what he needed 346 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: to do to win. I think that I would have 347 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: liked to see in a little bit more. I think 348 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: those are the type of fights where if I see 349 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: a future star, like a guy who's going to really 350 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: be elite in that division, I'm looking for for a 351 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: finish candidly, which I thought Randy was capable of pulling off. 352 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: He didn't. It was a little bit I don't want 353 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: to say lackluster, but there was something lacking for you know, 354 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: for me and watching that fight. But still a good 355 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: win against a very tough guy, muss An Duba, who 356 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: we've been calling you know, we started calling his fights 357 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 3: way back when. Yeah, and he's a dangerous dude who 358 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: can put anyone out, even at one hundred and seventy pounds. 359 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: But you know, it's a solid win. You know, it's 360 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: a solid one. 361 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 6: I think Randy Brown would agree with everything that you 362 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 6: just said. He is a student of the game if 363 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 6: nothing else, and I think he would agree with that assessment. 364 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 6: What is the record for oldest age at which to 365 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 6: compete in the UFC, because I think Francisco Trinaldo has 366 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 6: a great chance to compete at like forty seven, forty 367 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: eight years old. I mean, he is super competitive. To 368 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 6: your point, he's not having to cut down to one 369 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty six pounds anymore. Never has lost back 370 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 6: to back fights in the UFC, He's never been knocked 371 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: out in mixed martial arts. He now has thirty seven 372 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: professional fights. As we mentioned to him in our fighter 373 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 6: meeting with eighteen UFC wins, not out of the realm 374 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 6: the possibility that he closes top five and UFC wins 375 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 6: all time. Certainly would have liked to have had this one, 376 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 6: and certainly would have liked to have had that takedown 377 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 6: in round two. I believe it was when Randy Brown 378 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 6: grabbed the fence. Now, a lot of ways you can 379 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 6: go with this, you know, whether Randy Brown was trying 380 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: to be plucked off the fence or taken down kind 381 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 6: of remains to be seen. Certainly, I reacted to it 382 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 6: on the broadcast, and I guess I just wanted to 383 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 6: talk about the moment a little bit because I thought 384 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: it was a pretty important moment in the fight, especially 385 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 6: given the way round three went in so far as 386 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: Trinaldo took him down and to keep him there and 387 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 6: control him for the bulk of the round and did 388 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 6: a little bit of damage along the way and wasn't 389 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 6: so much as warm by the referee, you know, to 390 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 6: do more on the ground. So I don't think it's 391 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 6: out of the rum of possibility that if Tronaldo gets 392 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 6: that takedown without a blatant fence grab, that he wins 393 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: this fight two to one. And I don't even know 394 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: if Massaranduba, you know, dripping with class would even acknowledge 395 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 6: as much. But we were talking about it on the broadcast. 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 6: We thought it was very blatant, you know, and I 397 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 6: mentioned the possibility of taking out a point. I didn't 398 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 6: articulate it particularly well. I regret using the word testicles, 399 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 6: I guess in hindsight, but you know, I was emotional 400 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 6: in the moment because you know, my inner monologue is 401 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: that is so blatant. If you're not going to sort 402 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: of put Trinaldo in a dominant position or put Randy 403 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 6: Brown on his back, now, you know, then maybe have 404 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 6: the conviction. That's what I should have said, instead of 405 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 6: pull out your testicles, have the conviction to take a point, 406 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: because the first warning comes in the back. And that 407 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 6: was about as blatant as I've ever seen. Now, I'm 408 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: much closer with Randy Brown than I am Tronaldo. Right, 409 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 6: that's my boy, But I got to call it like 410 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 6: I see it and look pretty blatant to me, cam Flow, 411 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 6: What do you have for us on that? 412 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, I think you you forgot your filter 413 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: just for those two seconds podcast. It wasn't terrible, to 414 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: be honest, but you know, again, and I think you're 415 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: accurate in that, you know, those are the pivotal moments 416 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: in a fight that can make or break you. And 417 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: the fact that Masson Duba didn't get that point taken away, 418 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: or that Randy Brown did get that point taken away 419 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: for mass Aaron Duba, you know, was harmful. It could 420 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: have changed the fight. And again, I sound like a 421 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: broken record when I'm talking about this, but every fight 422 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: can make a break or fighter right that that could 423 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: be the difference. And of course, you know, there's a 424 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: lot of money involved, you know, a lot of opportunities 425 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: involved with winning or losing. So that's a tough one. 426 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's unfortunate that that the ref didn't see 427 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: it and call it that way. And you know, a 428 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: blatant file like everyone thinks that, oh well, everyone gets 429 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: one kind of warning that there is no brule Like 430 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: if it's blatant and direct and obvious, you could take 431 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: that point away right there and then. And I think 432 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: that was one of those situations where you absolutely could 433 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: have done that. Yeah, all right. 434 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: Sadik Yusef was to face Giga Chikadz a couple of 435 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 6: weeks ago in a comin event and he came out 436 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 6: and thought they were going to get a fight. He 437 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: was unable to get a fight. They get him. Don 438 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 6: shanis here a couple of weeks later, and it was 439 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 6: of huge importance for Sadik yusf to compete here and 440 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 6: to sort of continue to resonate with fans. And Kenny, 441 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 6: I know you did not see the fight, and you 442 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 6: did not see the guillotine choke, but I wanted to 443 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 6: talk to you a little bit about this front choke 444 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 6: and Lloyd Irvin drilling this front choke with his pupils, 445 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: you know, Domin Cruz and Sadik Yusif and other guys 446 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: like ten thousand times this one choke. And I think 447 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 6: I might have mentioned or not on this podcast that 448 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 6: dom put me in it. And you know, I wake 449 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 6: up the next morning. You know, I'm such a pussy, right, 450 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 6: but I wake up the next morning like my throat 451 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 6: herd's like Larry's my you know, my esophagus, everything hurts, right, 452 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: So it's not your everyday guillotine is something that Domina 453 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 6: Cruz said on the broadcast. So I don't know if 454 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 6: you're doing like a deep dive, you know, Kenny, Floryanmartial 455 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 6: arts dot Com on the guillotine choke right now. But 456 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: you know, sometimes athletes in a defensive position, you know, 457 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: are overconfident about their ability to defend a guillotine, and 458 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 6: the next thing you know, it feels like their life 459 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 6: is about to be on the line and they have 460 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: to tap because of the nature of the grip and 461 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: the choke. 462 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, listen, that's the most vulnerable part of the 463 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: body period. And I know I've talked about this before. 464 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: There's a reason why apex predators out in the wild 465 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: attack that spot. You know, it's the weakest part of 466 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 3: your body. When you're able to control that, you control 467 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: the head, you control the spine, you control the whole 468 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: of your body. You can shut off that blood to 469 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: the brain, and once that will get shut off, you're 470 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: either forced to tap or you have to go to sleep. 471 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It's not a matter of toughness or 472 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: anything like that. Positionally, you have to be superior and 473 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: in the right position when your neck is that vulnerable, 474 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: and if you don't know how to deal with that, 475 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: you are going to be in big trouble. 476 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 6: One thing Dominic also said is sort of off the record, I, 477 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: you know, to but he said, you know, like top 478 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 6: five guys just aren't going to put themselves in that position, 479 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 6: you know. So even though Dominic has that choke in 480 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 6: his arsenal, when he's fighting top guys, he feels like 481 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: it's going to be kind of like a five percent 482 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: thing that he's able to actually get it, which maybe 483 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 6: is neither here nor there. We're going to talk about 484 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 6: some of the other performances when Ray Longo comes on 485 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 6: here in a few minutes, but I just want to 486 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 6: talk to you about some of these sports injuries, man, 487 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 6: because when somebody has a huge injury, like Chance ren 488 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 6: Counter several months ago, had his entire ribcade shattered by 489 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 6: a kick, you know, and it's thoughts and prayers from 490 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 6: everybody for about twenty four to forty eight hours, and 491 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 6: then everybody kind of disappears and you can barely breathe 492 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 6: for you know, several months. And we saw some really 493 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 6: nasty leg breaks this weekend, first fight of the Night 494 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: in Bellatour Rich Palencia and then Minnesota Viking safety Lewis scene, 495 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 6: and the Palencia one was like right out of the 496 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 6: shoot and not unlike Chris Widman, one of the first 497 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: kicks he threw. It was their first fight of the night. 498 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 6: And uh, oh, man, I don't know, I don't even 499 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 6: know what I'm looking for out of you. But you know, 500 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 6: this is the second time we've seen a guy essentially 501 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: first kick of the night. You know, I'm the offensive 502 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 6: guy throwing it in your leg snaps and then you stay, 503 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 6: I mean, and now you're looking at you know, twelve 504 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: months a rehim, John. 505 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: You know, I could deal with a lot of things. 506 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: You know. I'm a son of a surgeon, and I 507 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 3: remember my dad like reviewing surgeries and I was like 508 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: way too young to be watching that stuff, and I'd 509 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: see like a chest all opened up, a beating heart, 510 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: like you know, like I remember, I can it was 511 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: like my early memories and I see that. So I'm 512 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: like used to that stuff, but I guess. But one 513 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: of the things I cannot stand is when I see 514 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: a bone that's either not in the place where it 515 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: should be, or when you get these compound fractures that 516 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: we've seen, like the Chris Won, the Anderson Silva one 517 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: Corey Hill from way back. These are the ones I'll 518 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: I'll see it once as I'm watching it live and 519 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: that's it. I have I have something in my stomach 520 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: that when I see that, I just I cannot stand 521 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: seeing that. So yeah, my heart goes out to those guys. 522 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: And that's a great point. Man. It's like everyone is, 523 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: you know, worried about those guys in the moment, and 524 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: then you know you see them off in a stretcher 525 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: and someone tweets something, Hey, guys, you know, appreciate the sport. 526 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 3: I'll be okay. The reality is that is a long 527 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: road to recovery, you know. Of course, Connor McGregor, like, 528 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: these are really bad injuries that oftentimes when the fighter returns, 529 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: or let's say NFL guy returns, they're not quite the same. 530 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: If they are, it's it's a rarity. It is extremely rare. 531 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: Why because physically there's been an incredible amount of damage 532 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 3: to the body, right, like a bone breaking like that. 533 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: It takes a lot to recover on a physical level, 534 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: and a lot of times, you know, your best bets 535 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: at recovery involved probably illegal performance dancing drugs sure to 536 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: get you even close to one hundred percent. Now there's 537 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: the physical component and then there's the mental component of 538 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: it as well, of going should I throw this kick again. 539 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: Can I throw this kick again? You know, the road 540 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: to recovery as far as kicking a pad, kicking a bag, 541 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: kicking a sparring partner with shin guards, and then going 542 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: out in an actual fight and getting to the point 543 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: where you can throw it full on without hesitation against 544 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: another guy who doesn't have a shin guard. It's a 545 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: very difficult thing. So it's one of the worst injuries 546 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: I think to come back from. 547 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 6: I pray that Chris Wiman is able to come back. 548 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 6: And you know, I think it stands to reason that 549 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 6: he will not open with a leg kick, even if 550 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: he gets all the confidence in the world to throw 551 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 6: it in training. And what a savage Doctor Florian right 552 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 6: well doesn't fall too far from the tree. I bet 553 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 6: you know, doctor Gus Floorian did not have a queasy 554 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 6: stomach when Kenny was doing that to Joe Lo's on 555 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 6: back in two thousand and eight. You know, I bet 556 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: he was just fine with all that blood. Probably wanted 557 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 6: a couple more super necessary shots any and doctor Flooryian 558 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 6: right want a couple more elbows on the ground for 559 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 6: Joe Lo's on. You know, he talked a little bit 560 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 6: of trash about your son. Leading up to the fight. 561 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: I get it all right, Aaron Pico dislocates his shoulder. 562 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 6: Our good friend Brandon Gibson, one of the classier men 563 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: in MMA, tries to pop it back in, and you know, 564 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 6: perhaps if he had gotten it done on the first 565 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 6: or second try, the fight continues. So I don't even 566 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 6: know if this is a fair question, but I mean, 567 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: so should cornermen and women now need to learn how 568 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 6: to expeditiously pop a shoulder back in for future reference 569 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 6: or what? 570 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: Hey? 571 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: Why not? You know, the best kind of people learn 572 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: from other people's mistakes. I don't want to say, Brandon Gibson, 573 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: that was a mistake in any you know, in any way, 574 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: shape or form. He was doing his best to try 575 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 3: to put that shoulder back in place. You know, kudos 576 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: to him for trying that. And it might be that 577 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: he didn't know how to do it. It just wasn't able to. 578 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: It can be a very difficult thing. I remember when 579 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: I was doing my CPR certification for you know, certification 580 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: through Brazilian jiu jitsu. They taught us how to put 581 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: things back into place, like a shoulder and stuff like that, 582 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: and they taught me I don't know if I'd be 583 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: able to do it. I'd probably need to get the 584 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: guy on the ground and put two feet like in 585 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: his shoulder and like pull his arm out of the socket, 586 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: which of course you probably wouldn't be able to do 587 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: in the middle of a professional mixed martial arts fight. 588 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: But it's no easy task number one. But I do 589 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: think there could be some value there, you know, of 590 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: really learning how to do something like that, having the 591 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: ability to save your opponent, save your fighter from an 592 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: opponent with a cut, you know, knowing how to you know, 593 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: get that fighter to continue with a cut or you know, 594 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: how to continue with a dislocated limb is huge. You 595 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: know that that's a part of your job as a 596 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: corner man. But I think it's a tall ask. It's 597 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: a big ask for someone like Brandon Gibson, you know, 598 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: who was there just trying to help his fight. But man, 599 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: that's that's really unfortunate. Man, Poor poor Aaron Pico. 600 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I felt for for Pico in the whole 601 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 6: corner and uh is what it is. Cody's right in 602 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 6: the chat. Lethwey has a two minute time out that 603 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 6: you can use after being knocked out. That sounds super safe. Huh, 604 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 6: that's the Miami Dolphins have that too. For two tug 605 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 6: of I loa just throw him back in the fucking game, 606 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 6: ruin his career. All right, let's not make uh make 607 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 6: the star of the show. Wait any longer, Let's get 608 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: to the Ray Longo minute. 609 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: It's now time for the. 610 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: Ray Longo minute. 611 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking such. 612 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: That's what I want, is the Ray Longo Minute. The 613 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast. 614 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 6: Ray Longo, Ray Longo, Ray Longo. I want to make 615 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: it a point to not be uh somber off the 616 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 6: top today. You look a little disheveled today, Raymond. 617 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: You're doing okay? I'm trying to look at my hair. 618 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: I need a heckcut. 619 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: What happened? 620 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: Here's out of control? 621 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: It's windy out there. 622 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: Huh the weather turned man bands freezing? 623 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 624 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 5: Right? 625 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: Would you? Would you have tried to put your fighter's 626 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: arm back in? Do you know how to do that? 627 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: I I don't think I would have been able to, 628 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: and I've been taught how to do it. What do 629 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: you do with the never get a shoulder? Man? 630 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: No, I've never been taught. I've never been taught how 631 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 5: to do it. And the guy there's funny. A kid 632 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: comes in and goes, hey, if that happened to me 633 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: and my fight, if you've got my shoulder back, and 634 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 5: I go absolutely not after you don't want that either, mister, 635 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 5: I think is good. I think Morob has popped a 636 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: couple of shoulders back in, so you know, it's one 637 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: of those things. I think if you did a couple, 638 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 5: you could do it. But uh, you know it happened 639 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 5: to me sporing once. So I mean I feel for 640 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: the guy, you know, and and I think keep fighting. 641 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: So it was weird. 642 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: You know, Morob would just probably just keep ramming his 643 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: shoulder into the side of the yacht to god. 644 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: Until yeah, right, remember the old Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapons, Kenny. 645 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, like, how much you want 646 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 6: to bet if may Rob Dwallas Willy's shoulder came out 647 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 6: during his own fight, that he would find a way 648 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 6: and use something in the arena to pop his own shoulder, right. 649 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: He would instruct us how to do it, trust me. Yeah, 650 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 5: oh he did it himself, savage. Yeah. 651 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 6: So I don't know if you've ever had to prepare 652 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: an athlete for a stylistic challenge like Mackenzie Dern. You know, 653 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 6: I hope TJ. Dillashaw's doing his homework, certainly when it 654 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 6: comes to al Jamaine Sterling and all of his annoyances 655 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: on the ground if he's able to get the fight there. 656 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 6: But what did you make of Yon Shaunon defensively and 657 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 6: otherwise in beating Mackenzie durnover five rounds just a couple 658 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: of days ago. 659 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: I tell you, I really enjoyed that fight for the 660 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 5: against reason you're saying is because there's always that thing. 661 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 5: She's down, there's a minute to go. 662 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: You know. 663 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 5: It had that element of excitement that makes for great anything, 664 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: especially a fight where you know the girl's gonna win 665 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 5: the fight. But man, there's two minutes to go and 666 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 5: she could be submitted any second. So I look, I 667 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 5: thought it was a great fight. I want to say something. 668 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: I like again, I love these little clips that Cody 669 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 5: puts up now because I like, I got like a 670 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 5: ten minute attention span, So I'm good for those clips. 671 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: But Kenny Man, I gotta say, hit that pick right on. 672 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: I listened to that yesterday. He really I almost got 673 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: another respect for you, because it was like he just said, 674 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: I'm not satisfied you because drn is good man, she 675 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: is coming forward, she's tough. I think, like again, I 676 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 5: think it was Kenny or somebody else said if she 677 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: gets her wrestling down, that she's a major problem because 678 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 5: she she's not lacking grit, she's not lacking determination. I 679 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 5: think she made great like I'm probably repeating what he said, 680 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: but strides in a stand up. But defensively she was off. 681 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 5: You could see the left hook look like it had 682 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: a magnet on its hand, like she would get hit 683 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: every time with it, and it was a little confusing. 684 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 5: But she's somebody I'm looking at that you really could 685 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 5: work with any way you want. She looks like she's 686 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: not lacking the desire to want to get better, you 687 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 5: know what I mean, because she already has. I think 688 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: she's made great strikes. But the fact that Kenny City 689 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: just wasn't sold yet, see that that's that's that's high 690 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 5: level to me, It really is, because I wasn't really 691 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 5: I wasn't sure, and you know, I thought she was 692 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 5: better all the way around. But that other kid did 693 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 5: a great job defensively. You can't ask for anything more. 694 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 5: Did somebody say, Kenny, she's a white belter. Is at 695 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: a joke? 696 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean she she she might be. I know 697 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: she comes from you know, uh Sondha background, you know, 698 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: with just some grappling stuff like that. But I mean 699 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: she did her homework though. I mean, guys had her 700 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: definitely doing a lot of ground for this. 701 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, because Darren is definitely another level on the there's 702 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: no question about. You can see the way she transitions 703 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: and it's just a great you know, just a great look. 704 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 5: But uh yeah, I don't know that was a that 705 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 5: was a great fight. So yeah, but a great fight 706 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: on both ends. But Yon definitely won the fight. Unless 707 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: you score that last round of you know, ten eighth, 708 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: then you can come to a drawl like one guy 709 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: had it right. It might be hard to defend, but 710 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 5: I think she did enough to win that fight for sure. 711 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 6: You're right, Faber said. She is getting a belt upgrade, 712 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 6: so certainly probably going to be a blue belt the 713 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: next time she graces the octagon. I mean, can you 714 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 6: just give her purple belt? Can't do that? 715 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: Canflow? 716 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: Right? 717 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 6: I mean I guess he can do whatever you want, right. 718 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 6: I mean, hey, a lot of black belts on that 719 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 6: UFC roster. Seems like they hand those out like candy 720 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 6: these days now, not a. 721 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: Whole lot of browner black belts that would have been 722 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: able to avoid a submission against Mackenzie NFL. 723 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 5: You a funny story when Wideman was coming up. I mean, 724 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 5: a guy was a white belt of blue beys just 725 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 5: tapping out black belts. And at the time, Kenny I 726 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 5: would tell like a jiu JITs guy's papping out black impossible, 727 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 5: It's impossible. They can't happen. I go, really can't happen. 728 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 5: Watching the guy run through a fucking room of guys 729 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: that are really really just run through them. And then 730 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 5: he went to the city and I guess it was 731 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: like a black belt class and I think he had 732 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 5: a good day. And Dan, who goes, put what belt 733 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 5: to you? It's like maybe he said purple or blue, 734 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 5: and I just gave him a brown belt, like right away, 735 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 5: right away. The only reason they didn't give him the 736 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: black belts because it was Matt's guy, I think, but 737 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 5: he said I have to do this, I think, to 738 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: save everybody else from going what the hell is going on? 739 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 5: Because you know Kenny Beck in the day, if you 740 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 5: were a purple belt, you had to beat a brown, 741 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 5: you know, like they have a right moving up. Now 742 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 5: it's not like that obviously, right, everything's just a stripe 743 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 5: and a free for all. But uh, but for what 744 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 5: he did at that time, nobody could even believe it. 745 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: So I think, uh, I don't know where I'm going 746 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: with that. 747 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: I remember hearing I remember hearing about Chris Widman before 748 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: I even saw him in the UF scene. People were 749 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 3: talking about this kid from Long Island. They're like, this 750 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: kid's a monster. Wait till you see him. He's he's 751 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: a dynamo on the ground as well. He's tapping out 752 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: black belts, like, watch out for this kid. So I 753 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: heard a lot when I threw a brow. 754 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 5: I remember one of Matt's black belts, who you know, 755 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: was one of my students. Also, I I met a 756 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 5: metic plikers, you know, and he didn't I didn't even know why. 757 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: Man. 758 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: He's like, what are you doing when you get these wrestlers. Man, 759 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: they're young, and you know, God forbid your like thirty 760 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 5: five or forty. You got a twenty two to twenty 761 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 5: three year old monster with squeeze strength. That's sickening, Like, 762 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 5: you know, what I mean, like and he gets it 763 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 5: and he freaking gets it up quick. Yeah. I watching 764 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: bone Nickel was kind of like, you know, Wifeman when 765 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 5: he started out taking some guys down just dars choking 766 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 5: them or choking just gillotine the other guy. Just you 767 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 5: could see it was just brutal. So like even for 768 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 5: bone Nickel right away he could beat eighty five percent 769 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 5: of the guys, there's no question in my mind, you know, 770 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 5: but as he goes on it will be interesting to see. 771 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 5: But he looked, he looks like he wants to be 772 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 5: there and he gets it, which is half the battle, 773 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 5: you know. And and John, just to your point with 774 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 5: the Chinese girl, like even when I get a person 775 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: like that's a good like at stand up, how to 776 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 5: get back to your feet, bad position, start them off 777 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 5: with that so they're not taken back by that. And 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 5: it looks like that was the kind of the roadmap, 779 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 5: you know, not getting back to the feet as well. 780 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 5: But you do have Mackenzie Dern on you, but she 781 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 5: did survive against the high level. You know. It's almost 782 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 5: like back in the day you were on the flow 783 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 5: of Paul Harrison. He didn't rip your knee out you 784 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like that was almost mandatory, you 785 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 5: know what I mean, that's you know, until he got 786 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 5: you know somebody who but uh that kid I think 787 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 5: Alan whoever dissected him now Alan Belcher Belcher, Yeah, yeah, 788 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But before that, like that 789 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 5: was one guy just did Mont Chris the fight at 790 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 5: the time coming up, I thought it was too risky 791 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 5: for not a good reward, you know what I mean, 792 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: because that guy was just he was just blatching. They 793 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 5: were finding holding onto him. 794 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, you might as well like pre book a hospital 795 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 6: bed when you and if you are a new fan, 796 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 6: go to fight pass with an r had some and uh, 797 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: he felt like there were a lot of things super 798 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 6: necessary after that. The horn or the tap. 799 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: He never he'd never hear the horn or the referee 800 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: telling him to break or the tap for some reason, 801 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: I don't know. 802 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 5: I know, towards the end he started fighting with a 803 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 5: hearing it and just. 804 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: Speaking of what can you hear out of your left ear? 805 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 6: Right now? With that hair matted over the left ear, 806 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 6: you can still hear out of that day? 807 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 5: You go there? You go right, Yeah, I'm out of control. 808 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 6: All right, So a few things I just want to 809 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 6: to get to with you. 810 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 5: I think I'm bast good. 811 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 6: I like this without the head I like this much 812 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 6: better without the headphones. You just you know, ripping into. 813 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 5: The you do, yeah, the headphones because I have him 814 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 5: in my pocket in case we need No. 815 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: We're good, We're good. So it sounds good. 816 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 6: I wonder if, if, if Chris Widman. And by the way, 817 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 6: I think your bon Nickel Chris Widman comparison is very 818 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 6: appropriate in a lot of ways. And uh, I think 819 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 6: there's a lot of people agree with you that bon 820 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 6: Nickel right now could beat eighty five percent the guys 821 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 6: in the UFC in his division. You know, I saw too, 822 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 6: what do they call it a compound fracture? I mean, 823 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 6: there were two nasty, nasty leg breaks this weekend, one 824 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 6: involving Belator fighter Richard Palencia and then Minnesota Viking Safety 825 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 6: in the NFL Lewis scene. And uh, I don't know. 826 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 6: I just wonder, like, you know, how Chris is doing 827 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 6: and how he even reacts when he sees guys, you know, 828 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 6: enter the process, the rehab process day one. You know 829 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 6: that he's sort of still in now, you know, a 830 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 6: year plus removed from you know, his accident. 831 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 7: Uh. 832 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. I just got off the phone 833 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 5: with him before, right before the podcast. But you know, 834 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 5: he wanted to he wanted to discuss some of the 835 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 5: Jim drama that he heard about, so I had I 836 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 5: gave him his five minutes. I go just beat me up. 837 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 5: I know, I empowered everybody and did every you know whatever. 838 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 5: So that was the gist of it comes there. I 839 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 5: didn't even got to the point where how are you feeling. 840 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 5: I just wanted I just listened to him and I said, look, 841 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 5: I gotta run, I gotta do the podcast. I got 842 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 5: the hell out of there. But it looks like he's 843 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 5: doing all right. But that that that, Uh, I don't know. 844 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 5: You have to ask him, but I will next time. 845 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 5: But I'm sure it's not a good thing seeing other 846 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 5: people with the same problem you had. That's gotta hurt 847 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: a little. 848 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 6: Well, we'll, uh no, we'll we'll get him on the podcast, 849 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 6: friend of the program and get that update in terms 850 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 6: of the Jim drama. I don't know how much you 851 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 6: want to share. 852 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 5: No bullshit? 853 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: All right? 854 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 6: Well, no, I just I did hear some rumblings then 855 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 6: that there is an open workout involving al Jamaine Sterling. 856 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 6: I don't know if that has anything to do. 857 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 5: With the drum. 858 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 6: Okay, so what can you tell us about an open 859 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 6: workout in Garden City, New York involving the undisputed UFC 860 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 6: Vanda Wait Champion. 861 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously he's doing an open I told Cody 862 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 5: I didn't even know about it, but I saw him 863 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 5: post it, so we're a data wa Wait. Besides that, 864 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 5: though he looked the kid looks phenomenal. Though great, he 865 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 5: looks good. He's back to guy. That's why I love 866 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 5: just seeing it, so I feel like I'm more into him. 867 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 5: But he looked really, really good. Couple of new things 868 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 5: I think he'll unravel, which he'll be great and I'm 869 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 5: excited for the fight. 870 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 6: Looks like the media scrum will be later this week 871 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 6: at four point thirty after a four pm Eastern open 872 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 6: workout on October sixth, That is a Thursday. So yeah, 873 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 6: if your local, get on over to Garden City see 874 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 6: if they let you guys in And check out the 875 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 6: picture of Joe Rogan with Matt Sarah and Ray Longo 876 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 6: from about thirty years ago. 877 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 5: What a good looking guy Rogan was now. 878 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 6: Look at still and still I mean still so Poomi 879 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 6: Nakuda is a fighter who has gotten a little shine 880 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 6: on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. A guy who we all 881 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 6: thought would would make his way to the UFC at 882 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 6: flyweight and eventually the top fifteen, if not higher, seemingly 883 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 6: has announced his retirement from mixed martial arts to go 884 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 6: into professional wrestling. 885 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 5: That's what I did. I went out to pull me 886 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 5: last last Sunday with a couple. 887 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 6: What are you laughing at? What's so fun? I think 888 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 6: it's very best prospects. He's going down to do you know, 889 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 6: pro wrestling? 890 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. That's what he told me. He's 891 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 5: doing pro wrestling. Now he's out, He's at m m A. 892 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 5: That's all. That's all I got on. I think I'm 893 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 5: the last guy to find everything out at this. 894 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 6: Point, so second only to me. Do you so you 895 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 6: don't corner him for these pro wrestling contests? 896 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 3: Right? 897 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 5: So? 898 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 6: Is there any any measure of disappointment? Cody's disappointed, our 899 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 6: producers disappointed? I mean, I guess you're not disappointed, right right? 900 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: You could be the new captain lew Alba Albano. 901 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 5: I'm the Wizo, I'm the Grand Wizard, the Grand Wizard. Yeah, 902 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 5: by back by back back back back back back, But 903 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 5: maybe is that the direction of pro wrestling? 904 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 8: Good? 905 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing, McMahon, I don't know who 906 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 5: was that? Is that the wizard? 907 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 6: All of these references are all for my head. I'm 908 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 6: just saying, h No, I'm not. But if I'm an 909 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 6: MMA coach and Pumi Nakuda sits me down and tells 910 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 6: me with all of his potential that he's uh, he's 911 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 6: leaving profighting, I guess in some part, honestly, I say 912 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 6: good on you, man, you know, because I do think 913 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 6: there's gonna be less head troum in that world. To 914 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 6: be sure, you know, you don't have to spar. But 915 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I was excited to see his 916 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 6: his career trajectory, which kind of seemingly stops here. 917 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 5: So that's all I think. John. Everybody shares your sentiment. 918 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 5: But you know, look, he's got to do what he's 919 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 5: got to do when he feels comfortable. His hands still 920 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 5: not right from when he broke it last time. And 921 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 5: I think you know, once you get an injury and 922 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 5: you got to sit there for six or eight months, 923 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: and you know, bills are coming in and people are 924 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 5: you gotta make you gotta make moves. I mean, look 925 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 5: the UFC, everybody's bitching about money anyway, So it's not 926 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 5: like it's he's gonna take a financial but he's a 927 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 5: one twenty five pounded two. 928 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you know how long I would. 929 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 5: Have been a long road before I think he saw 930 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 5: anything substantial and feels like, you know, the injuries are 931 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: just mounting up at this stage of the game. Let them, 932 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 5: you know. I said, Look, the thing in here is 933 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 5: I support these guys whatever whichever way they want to go. 934 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 5: I'm not really here to influence them or whatever. Poomy 935 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 5: knows that we all knew we had great potential in Mma. 936 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 5: That's a fact. I mean he was probably the only 937 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 5: guy with uh a tank like Morob, you know. And 938 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 5: you know, if you ever asked Morob about Poomy, he'll 939 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 5: tell you exactly how he felt with me, and he 940 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 5: wanted nothing to do with him. The kid was frustrating, 941 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 5: and he could keep up with him with the cardio, 942 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 5: he couldn't break them. So yeah, uh, it's all good stuff, man. 943 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 5: I just I'm glad he's back around and I get 944 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 5: to see him, and he's got great energy, that kid. 945 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: And I think for a lot of other coaches, you know, 946 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 6: this would be perhaps more devastating. You know, very longo 947 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 6: he's got you know, he's got a un disputed UFC 948 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 6: champion and every goddamn era the promotion has ever existed, 949 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 6: right and has all these head to head wins over 950 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 6: guys like Anderson Silvan Jose Altas. So I think very 951 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 6: long it is doing just fine. But we wish Poomi 952 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 6: Nakudah all the best. 953 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 5: In his great great ki his future endeavors. 954 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 6: So I just wanted to rifle through some of these 955 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 6: other performances from the UFC Fight Night to see if 956 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 6: there was any performance that you wanted to talk about, 957 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 6: and then I wanted to talk a little bit about 958 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 6: Mark Zuckerberg's presence in the arena. First of all, Francisco 959 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 6: Ronaldo against a guy that you guys know pretty well, 960 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 6: Randy Rudboy Drown Brown training under the great Nardue Debra. 961 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Randy Brown extending his winning streets to 962 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 6: four over the ageless Massa Randuba. 963 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean super, Look Brandy, the guy that the 964 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 5: length and the height, he's super super talented. Uh, you know, 965 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 5: he's doing what he has to do. I mean, I 966 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 5: think he should have been able to put that guy away, 967 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 5: But you know, I think that's what the UFC's gonna 968 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 5: tell him too, is like, you know, I mean the 969 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 5: guy's forty foll how old is he forty four years old? Yep, Yeah, 970 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 5: I think he knocked him down. I think I think 971 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 5: he should have made more of an attempt to finish 972 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 5: the fight. But I know he's very talented because he's 973 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 5: been in the gym, and you know, he's I think 974 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 5: he's a problem moving forward. He's got great but yeah, 975 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 5: for sure, there's no question about it. 976 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 6: No, I think he would tell you this was the 977 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 6: most lackluster performance of this four fight winning streak. But 978 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 6: you can argue it's the toughest test to pass. 979 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: Right. 980 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 6: He called him uncle Tronaldo said to Dominica Cruz when 981 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 6: dom asked a pretty thoughtful question, like when Randy talks 982 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 6: about the challenges ahead of him, and he's so thoughtful 983 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 6: in terms of his MMA progression, right, I mean, he 984 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 6: he feels like when your base is grappling or wrestling, 985 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 6: maybe it's easier to expedite a title run. But he 986 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 6: was exclusively a boxer until he's nineteen, and he just 987 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 6: still feels like he's closing these gaps and checking these boxes. 988 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 6: But to face a true veteran like that, you know, 989 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 6: I give him credit. What do you would just any 990 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 6: thoughts on the fence grab? You think maybe I made 991 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 6: too much of it? 992 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 5: Or uh no, I don't think you made too You 993 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 5: can't you know, I don't know. I mean I think 994 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 5: it did if it prevented it take that. I don't 995 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 5: remember it exactly. I know he did it, but you know, 996 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 5: you just got to be whatever it is, what all 997 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 5: of this stuff. You got to be consistent, you know 998 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 5: what I mean. So if it was an inconsistency and 999 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 5: he's done it before where he's taken a point away, 1000 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 5: then I got a problem with it. If not, he 1001 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 5: gave him a hard warning and he moved on and 1002 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 5: it never happened again. I don't think but that, you know, yeah, 1003 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 5: you know you could make a mistake when you're up 1004 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 5: against the cage like that to grab it so well, 1005 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 5: and it was that blatant, but it was. It was close. 1006 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 6: When somebody suggested that I have viscerated Keith Peterson, I 1007 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 6: would certainly say to any of you know, my my 1008 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 6: brethren out there in the referee and UH commission world. 1009 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 6: It's more a general point about like not being afraid 1010 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 6: to take a point if you see a foul that 1011 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 6: is seemingly so blatant, you know, because I don't know 1012 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 6: exactly it's a little tricky, right to just give the takedown. 1013 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 6: I think it's easier to just take a point and 1014 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 6: then Randy probably would have had to go for the 1015 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 6: fishing finish and maybe you get a more exciting fight. 1016 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 6: But that is neither here nor there. All right, Gosh, 1017 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 6: my contact lenses are failing me. Fight that night was 1018 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 6: Daniel Santos against John Castaneda. I mean, that was an 1019 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 6: absolute war. One of my favorite fights of the year 1020 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 6: so far. It looks like a Litteral Latifi's going to 1021 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 6: retire after a win over Alexiolytic. God, it's amazing how 1022 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 6: many forty year olds we had on this fight card. 1023 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 6: Latifaetty with a submission of forty two years old. 1024 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 5: Crazy. That was a crazy fight even I don't even 1025 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 5: think I remember seeing Kennetty fight. 1026 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 6: Did you see Brendan Allen submit Christoph Jotko Brendan Allen 1027 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 6: got a bonus. 1028 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 5: Dude. 1029 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 6: That's impressive, man. I mean, Chaka is a very hard 1030 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 6: guy to get out of there, and he made it 1031 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 6: look easy. And then Mike Davis over os Lava clause 1032 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 6: back for the first time in a long time. All right, 1033 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 6: before we let you go, you see Mark Zuckerberg in 1034 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 6: the building. Do you know who Mark Zuckerberg is? 1035 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 5: Right? You must, yes, they do. 1036 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 6: You got Facebook? Right, you got Instagram? All we know 1037 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 6: about We know about your Instagram with child. 1038 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 5: So if everybody out did he Instagram? Guy is back. 1039 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 5: I got somebody working on now now he's now, he's 1040 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 5: now I'm selling bitcoin, Kenny, do you know that? Drago 1041 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 5: cools me goes, how you doing with the big cooin? 1042 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 7: Go? 1043 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 5: You're fucking joking, right, He goes, boy, what are you? 1044 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? I go, do I have 1045 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 5: been hacked for like fucking five months? First he congratulated 1046 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 5: me on a car. Now ask me about No, you can't. 1047 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 5: I'm like, this can't be happening right now? Yeah, unbelievable, 1048 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 5: So anybody have to look. I apologize. But there's some 1049 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 5: shitty people in the world, and guy's getting his rocks 1050 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 5: off doing what he's doing. Good, have fun. I couldn't 1051 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 5: give his ship. 1052 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: I was able to. I was gonna say. Someone did 1053 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: that to my Facebook the other day too, by the way, 1054 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 3: someone posted somehow undermine I don't know what the hell's 1055 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: going oh man, Yeah, so hopefully it's not a hacket. 1056 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 3: Just whatever. 1057 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 6: Well, guys, I was able to connect with the zuck 1058 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 6: Man at the ufc Apex maybe you know. No, he 1059 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 6: what a classy, nice guy man, and obviously he loves 1060 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 6: mixed martial arts. But yeah, came over after the broadcast, 1061 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 6: went out of his way to come up and uh 1062 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 6: introduce himself and uh and we got to talk for 1063 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 6: about five minutes. 1064 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 3: Very cool. 1065 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 5: You know, we got to realize John with like those 1066 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 5: situations like obviously the guy's a genius and what he 1067 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 5: did and everything. But he's looking at you like you're 1068 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 5: looking at him right, like he's a big fan of yours, 1069 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 5: just like you are, you know, and you can see 1070 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 5: the excitement in the guy's face. He was like a 1071 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 5: little kid in the candy store what I saw. Anyway, 1072 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 5: But uh, I'm glad we got another guy into mixed 1073 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 5: mortial arts. I think that's a big deal. 1074 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 3: And and why do you say that The moral of 1075 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 3: the story is, hopefully you got his number number two. 1076 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 3: Hopefully you can get Raylango's account back on Instagram. 1077 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, I tell you what. 1078 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 3: You got a direct connect now. 1079 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 6: Well, in terms of. 1080 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 5: The wait, hold on second, John, I didn't think about that. 1081 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 5: Give me that freaking number. Yeah, Berg, Zuckerberg, do the 1082 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 5: right thing. 1083 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 3: He's gotta he's gotta be listening to the podcast. 1084 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 5: You look like a nice kid. Do the fucking right thing. 1085 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 5: Come on, man, this is stupid at this point. 1086 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 3: That's well. 1087 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 6: In terms of picking and choosing my battles with my 1088 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 6: new friend Mark Zuckerberg, the first one I'm gonna pick 1089 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 6: is obviously getting your account back and then. 1090 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 5: I'll sell you. 1091 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 6: But no, I think that more was made. I do 1092 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 6: think largely more was made of this than needed to 1093 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 6: be right. I mean, certainly I feel for the media 1094 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 6: who covered the way and to not be able to 1095 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 6: cover the live event. But you know, it didn't rent 1096 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 6: out the whole thing. It was just an intimate setting 1097 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 6: with a few people, and uh, you know that has 1098 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 6: been the case oftentimes at the UFCAPEX. So I do 1099 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 6: think that a little too much was made of it. 1100 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 6: But it was cool to have him in the building 1101 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 6: and to have a supporter like that, you know, who 1102 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 6: I think could help the sport. So, you know, I 1103 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 6: know a lot of the fighters, like we're never trying 1104 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 6: to take shine away from the athletes, but I know 1105 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 6: a lot of the fighters were very excited. A lot 1106 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 6: of the coaches in the athletes all night long, we're 1107 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 6: trying to fucking lock eyes with that guy, you know, 1108 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 6: so it meant something to them, you know, Oh wow, 1109 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 6: Should I leave it at that? Should I leave it 1110 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 6: at that? 1111 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 5: That's great? Good, good for Zuckerberg. 1112 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 6: All right, So it is now October third, nineteen days 1113 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 6: out for al Jamainer, Sterling and TJ. Dell try to 1114 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 6: get a little. 1115 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 5: Nervous a lit, I do, I do get a little nervous. 1116 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 6: Shit, Yeah, like Zuckerberg to meet me Saturday. You know, 1117 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 6: I'm just kidding, No, it is. We were both excited, 1118 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 6: Like I was anxious to meet him, and I'm thankful 1119 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 6: that I had the chance to do so. Yeah, I 1120 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 6: think sometimes you see people on television and it's weird 1121 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 6: to meet them in person, right because they look like 1122 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 6: they're just in a box. But then it's actually a 1123 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 6: human being. 1124 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 5: You know so well, I'm sure he's at another level mentally. 1125 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 6: No, yeah, then like someone like me, Yes, and he 1126 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 6: doesn't need like adderall to get there for example, Oh 1127 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 6: that you don't know that's what you need? 1128 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 5: You don't know that. 1129 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 6: How about you're telling Chris Wyman to pound sands so 1130 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 6: you could join us right on. 1131 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 5: The screws this this podcast comes first? Are you kidding? 1132 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1133 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 5: How did you even insult me like that? No? 1134 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 6: Right, all right, my man? Well, so when are you 1135 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 6: When are you getting out of here? When are you 1136 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 6: heading to? 1137 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 5: Uh? 1138 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 6: To the United Arab Emirates? 1139 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 5: I am going uh. I think it's Sunday to sixteenth, 1140 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 5: all right, we'll be there a week before. When are 1141 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 5: you getting there later than you? 1142 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 6: I think I'm flying through New York but not until 1143 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 6: I think Tuesday, so I'll be forty eight hours behind you. 1144 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 6: So uh oh wow, we'll stand we'll see you. We'll 1145 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 6: see you then and obviously we will talk to you 1146 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 6: once more before you get on out of here, but 1147 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 6: you know i'll have yes. Sorry, no, it's just gonna 1148 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 6: no I was, I'm just outrowing you, but please, by 1149 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 6: all means now. 1150 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 5: I said, we'll get some bike riding in two. 1151 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 6: No, yeah, I think that would be great. That's your Uh, 1152 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 6: that's your new endeavor. 1153 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 5: That's it. That's all I could do. 1154 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 6: Like, how many miles? What was your longest ride in 1155 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 6: the last two weeks? 1156 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 5: Uh? It wasn't more than sixteen. 1157 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 6: That's like a glass half empty answer. 1158 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, good for you man, that's good. Man. 1159 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 6: Most I've done in my life's like twenty two and 1160 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 6: it's not fun. 1161 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 5: We haven't I haven't done it yet, but I could 1162 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 5: do it. Sorry, no, I just wondering. I keep interrupting. 1163 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 5: I know people are bitching them owning. I'm jumping over everybody. 1164 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 5: But wait, listening before I go shut up. My daughter Deana, Uh, 1165 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 5: that's why I didn't watch most of the fights I 1166 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 5: was in the city. She passed the occupational therapy boards. 1167 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 5: We had a great time through a nice party, all 1168 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 5: good in the hood. 1169 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 3: Awesome. 1170 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 6: Maybe she can consult my son, who has myriad issues. 1171 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 5: But listen, the Longo family is always at your disposal. 1172 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 5: All right, whatever I told you a million times. 1173 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully her hourly rate isn't as prohibitive as her father's. 1174 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 6: Maybe we can get her. 1175 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 5: On the Yeah, everything's gratis. 1176 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 6: Hey, I'm gonna bring my twin brother Jason Anak into 1177 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 6: the conversation before we let long goo go see who 1178 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 6: has the best. 1179 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, God, it's the good. 1180 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 6: Can you put your hair up? 1181 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: It is Raymond, Raymond, Raymond, it is the good Annak. 1182 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 4: You can be sure. 1183 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 8: In high school, like there was this one guy walked 1184 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,479 Speaker 8: around every time he saw me, he was like good 1185 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 8: and every time he saw Johnny. 1186 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 5: You don't have to go any further. 1187 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 3: I get it. 1188 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 5: Met me both get trust me exactly. 1189 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 6: So when I was in high school, I you know, 1190 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 6: I bicked my head bald. I wore like a bandana, 1191 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 6: you know, big maroon, Jinko jeans. You know, I thought 1192 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 6: I was a budding rapper. My big starter jacket and 1193 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 6: everything else. I understand why the upper classmen had a 1194 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 6: lot of fun at my expense. 1195 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 5: So I say, you do got to weigh with words. 1196 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 5: Is beautiful. 1197 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1198 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 5: I love it. 1199 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 6: So Jay, you know, I prefer when you just go 1200 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 6: bun with this hair. If you don't know, uh. Co 1201 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 6: host of Remember the Show with u f C. Welsway 1202 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 6: contender Blaw Muhammad right on the Santa Can Florian Podcast 1203 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 6: YouTube channel, Jason and is now with us here crossing 1204 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 6: over with long ago. But the hair man the hair Yeah, 1205 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 6: let it flow. 1206 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 4: For Ken, right, get there, let it flow for bro 1207 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 4: It's pretty. 1208 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 5: Flow exactly. Yeah, I love it. 1209 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 4: No, but you know you guys, you guys talked about 1210 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 4: that Tronaldo fight. Uh, and you buried you buried the lead, 1211 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 4: didn't you? John? Did you talk about what really happened it? 1212 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 5: Can? 1213 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 4: I you don't mind? 1214 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 7: Do you? 1215 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: No? 1216 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 2: Oh? All right? 1217 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 4: Raymond kenn Of your your co host here? 1218 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 6: Did you guys hear on the podcast? 1219 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? We did know he did. 1220 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 4: He did this, but he already said, y, that's what 1221 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 4: he meant, the eviscerated Keith person. 1222 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 5: You heard what he said? 1223 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 4: Did you talk about exactly? Did you quote what he said? 1224 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 4: I don't want to repeat for all the viewers enough. 1225 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 4: Did you talk about what it actually came out of 1226 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 4: his mouth? 1227 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 5: No, let's hear it? Well? 1228 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 6: No, I I should have said, uh, or maybe a 1229 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 6: referee at times would have the conviction to take a 1230 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 6: point away, and instead I said, or you know, maybe 1231 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 6: you pull out your testicles and take a point, you know, 1232 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 6: But I didn't. 1233 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 5: Don't you know, don't you know if he pulled his 1234 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 5: testicles out Zuckerberg probably would have sued him. Come on, 1235 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 5: you can't pull your you can't pull your pp out 1236 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 5: with Zuckerberg. That's not right. 1237 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 3: We have to hold the m M. 1238 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 5: Community to a highest standard. 1239 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 6: Yeah no, uh, judge judged on every utterance over six 1240 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 6: or seven hours. But let's let's hope my producers maybe 1241 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 6: skip this episode, you know, so all right, Ray, well 1242 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 6: we'll let you go, buddy. Uh, but we appreciate the time. 1243 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 6: Jay just wanted to say hello, I'm every you know, 1244 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 6: everybody loves Raymond, right, everybody fucking loves Raymond. 1245 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 5: So here's Jay. Thank you very much, and I hope, 1246 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 5: I hope I see you soon, buddy. 1247 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 8: Absolutely, man wanted to see your face. I thought they 1248 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 8: were going to get you out of here. I'm glad 1249 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:33,959 Speaker 8: they didn't. 1250 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 4: Good to see me. 1251 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 5: Didn't want that. Thank you very much. All right, my men, 1252 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 5: I'll talk to you guys later. 1253 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 3: A right. 1254 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 6: Long guys with us every week on the A and 1255 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 6: Florian podcast. Yeah, I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on, 1256 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 6: you're real hot with the mic, just so you know, 1257 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if it sounds like we're getting a 1258 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 6: bunch of echo from your kitchen, so just fucking chill out. Okay, 1259 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 6: by the way, just chill out one guys. 1260 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so hopefully it's not too noisy it. 1261 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 7: What's up, Cody, I'm here, I'm here. You just get 1262 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 7: to make sure that your little gear setting is on 1263 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 7: the proper mic. You know, we've only done seventy eight 1264 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 7: episodes of live TV up to this point. 1265 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 4: But it's on the right setting, a little different locale. 1266 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 4: You can get me out of here. 1267 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 6: Anytime if they want to know. It sounds fine. You 1268 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 6: sound crystal clear as you were as you were saying, 1269 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 6: I just want. 1270 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 7: You could just see that fantastic slimstone in the background. 1271 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 4: Right, I appreciate it. 1272 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 8: No, Kenny, just sometimes these lines out of the sky. 1273 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 8: I'm just sitting here with my head in my hand. 1274 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 8: You know, if you're talking about the ref you know 1275 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 8: who he's defended ad nauseum with dominic cruz. You know, 1276 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 8: if he just pull out his testicles, pull him out, 1277 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 8: pull him out, pull him out. 1278 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 3: And so I was rarely, he rarely, he rarely does 1279 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 3: anything like that. I don't think he's ever I don't 1280 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 3: think he's ever done that. There's there's never been another 1281 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 3: reference to testicles as far as I can recall, and uh, 1282 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe he was a little excited because 1283 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 3: Dominic Cruz was right next to I think that's. 1284 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 7: Probably for the record. Spoken lines everyone. I know, we 1285 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 7: had a little bit of fun at that expense, but 1286 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 7: spoken lines, not other kinds of lines. 1287 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 6: I just I don't know. I don't know how the 1288 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 6: Tronaldo corner reacted, you know, And I think largely I 1289 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 6: am making too much of this singular fence grab. But man, 1290 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 6: in the moment, it's like. 1291 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 5: Gosh, what. 1292 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 3: Are like? 1293 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 6: Well, no, the reason I want to know, what's the 1294 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 6: if you really want to know? The reason I said 1295 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 6: testicles in the moment in my head is because I 1296 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 6: was trying to soften up the word balls, if you 1297 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 6: can believe that, and I actually made it harder, so exactly. 1298 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, you can just read the 1299 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 4: Medello promos. Just relax. 1300 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 8: You don't don't need to agitate. He loves to agitate, 1301 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 8: loves He's talking about Adderall when I'm in the other room. 1302 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 8: Just like, what do I mean it doesn't even take 1303 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 8: Adderall like. 1304 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 4: Just run the mouth. Run the mouth all is like 1305 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 4: run his mouth. I'm coming running anyway. 1306 00:59:59,640 --> 00:59:59,959 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 1307 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 6: So the reason we're having you on the program today 1308 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 6: is because last week on your show, which is live 1309 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 6: Thursday nights on this channel, your co host Balab Muhamma, 1310 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 6: who will fight Sean Brady October twenty second and who 1311 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 6: is already in UAE in Dubai about an hour away 1312 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 6: from where they're gonna fight, announced last Thursday that Kabet 1313 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 6: Normago Medow is going to be in his corner, which 1314 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 6: is very exciting. 1315 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 5: Now. 1316 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 6: I don't know if you can tell us like who's expense, 1317 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 6: like who's the odd man out now or not? But 1318 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 6: what are your thoughts on what that means, you know, 1319 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 6: three weeks from it. 1320 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's an odd man out necessarily. 1321 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 4: The third guy. I think can fluctuate from time to time. 1322 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 8: But his main boxing coach, Mike Valley will be down there, 1323 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 8: and Lewis Taylor, his main man, former PFL champion Kenny 1324 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 8: will be there. 1325 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 4: They're both always there. 1326 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 8: But kabid to be the third guy just to be 1327 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 8: immersing in this camp and you see Cody nodding his head. 1328 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 8: There's so much noise about Sean Brady out there, and 1329 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 8: sometimes I feel like my man Balal doesn't get enough 1330 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 8: respect boxing looked a lot Chrispier last time out. 1331 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 4: I'm just glad he's put himself in the absolute best 1332 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 4: position to win with this whole crew. 1333 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 8: But frankly, I have tremendous confidence in Blow no matter 1334 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 8: who's in this corner. I mean his mental fortitude and 1335 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 8: all the different tools in there. I'm looking forward to 1336 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 8: Sean Brady feeling him on the mat, but I'm excited 1337 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 8: for Jabi to be there. But for Billow, if you 1338 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 8: want to know the truth, from my perspective, it's a 1339 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 8: dude's ready to go three hundred and sixty five days 1340 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 8: a year. 1341 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a huge needle. 1342 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 6: Mover for me, Kenny. A lot of people are picking 1343 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 6: Sean Brady in this spot. To Jason's point, in terms 1344 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 6: of a training partner and a cornerman in preparation over 1345 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 6: five weeks Blaw will have in Dubai, essentially with Habibe, 1346 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 6: I don't know that you can do much better. Right 1347 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 6: when we hear what everybody says about how Kabib feels 1348 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 6: in training, how he feels in the octagon, from guys 1349 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 6: who feel him for the first time there, like Gai 1350 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 6: Chee and Pourier, you know, I feel like it's it's 1351 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 6: it's it's a feather in the cap. 1352 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 3: To be sure, for Blaw not to mention a two 1353 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 3: hundred pound Habib you fucking bad up right now, you know, Grace, 1354 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: He has said I'm not dieting ever again basically, but yeah, no, 1355 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 3: I mean, how much experience are you going to gain 1356 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 3: from that just one session alone? I'm sure Billall could 1357 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 3: pick up a whole lot, but this is a guy 1358 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 3: in Habib who has a tremendous amount of information. I 1359 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 3: think it's going to help Ballall. And honestly, and I'm 1360 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 3: not just saying this because Jason's here or or you know, 1361 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 3: Ballall might be watching whatever. I think it's a good 1362 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 3: matchup for Ballall. Yes, I think Sean Brady will have 1363 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 3: certain technical advantages over Blall, but I think people sleep 1364 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 3: on Bellall's positioning, just like you know, you know your 1365 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 3: Iah was talking about keeping it simple. You can solve 1366 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 3: so many issues with just positioning alone. And I think 1367 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 3: Ballall might not be known for his submission game, but 1368 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 3: he's very well known for his positional game and his 1369 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 3: understanding of where to be at the right time. He 1370 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 3: rarely makes mistakes. He knows how to execute when it counts, 1371 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 3: and I think he just has way more experience than 1372 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Sean Brady. So I think it's a good fight for him. Man, 1373 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 3: I think he would be favored either way. When you 1374 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 3: add in that of have beaten Thermago mattof I think 1375 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 3: he'll be that much more prepared. 1376 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 4: And John, let me just hop in real quick, you know, 1377 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,919 Speaker 4: also being there with Islam and Islam's whole championship camp, 1378 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: I think can't be understated either. 1379 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 7: Go ahead, Cody Well, I was gonna say, Kenny, if 1380 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 7: you feel that way, I mean, do you do you 1381 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 7: venture a guest on what the line is? 1382 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Gosh, do you have is blall of major? Underdog? Is 1383 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 3: Sean like two to one? 1384 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 5: No? 1385 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,959 Speaker 6: No, no, Okay, let me guess. 1386 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 7: But Balal is the underdog? 1387 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: Okay? Look one seventy five plus one seventy. 1388 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 7: Five clean got so it's plus one twenty. It was 1389 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 7: plus one thirty last week. It's about it has moved 1390 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,439 Speaker 7: a little bit. 1391 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 6: So Brady's minus one forty. Yeah, that's how you mute 1392 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 6: the landscapers. When you live in Florida and you do 1393 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 6: as much media as I do, you learn to mute 1394 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 6: the landscapers when when you're not when you're not talking. 1395 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did it a second ago. Yeah you kick 1396 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 4: you kicked me out of here at any time? 1397 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 5: Just right? 1398 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 6: I think, who do you guys have coming up? You 1399 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 6: know what I was going to ask you guys, who 1400 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 6: you have coming up on Thursday? I know the show 1401 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 6: window has changed a little bit. Uh with blab Muhammad 1402 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 6: on the other side of the world. Do you guys 1403 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 6: have any guests coming up this Thursday? Or do you 1404 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 6: not know that information at the current time. 1405 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 7: I don't know it at the current time, but probably not. 1406 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 7: Probably be if possible, be like Bronze that are and 1407 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 7: uh maybe Mystic Black. Maybe we'll do that little uh. 1408 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 6: Maybe I would like to see Bronze, Stettter, and Petrie 1409 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 6: go head to head. Jay, you we re mute? 1410 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 7: Maybe that's it? 1411 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I because Jay? Anything else? 1412 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 7: I turned you on? 1413 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 5: Jay? 1414 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 6: Anything else? Before we blow you out of here? 1415 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 8: Just a quick thing I want to say quickly for 1416 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 8: those who don't know, John, I are hosting this show. 1417 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 8: This isn't a plug, but we're hosting a show called 1418 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 8: Annix Squared on the Hammer Betting Network. It's an NFL 1419 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 8: pick show and the week you guys went dark, right, 1420 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 8: And John tells me, I know the views don't matter. 1421 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 4: It's all about the content. John doesn't care about the content, right, 1422 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 4: But somehow I got a few fews here and there. 1423 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 4: The week you guys go dark, right, fifteen hundred views. 1424 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 8: Everyone's searching for you boys, Everyone trying to find you boys, 1425 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 8: and so everyone, you know, probably a fifteen hundred clicks, 1426 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 8: not necessarily views. 1427 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 4: Producer was all excited. 1428 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 8: I knew it was fraudulent. So anyway, you're you have 1429 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 8: some loyal viewers trying to find you guys. 1430 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 4: When you go dark. You guys going strong, But thank 1431 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 4: you for having. 1432 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 7: Well that's why you're here, right, Jay, Isn't that is 1433 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 7: ja gonna? Is Jay gonna put his neck out there 1434 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 7: on the line, or it's just gonna be me. 1435 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 6: Well, in the future, I think we'll have you two 1436 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 6: go head to head on the NFL picks, just to 1437 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 6: get a second voice on here. But he's an NFL 1438 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,439 Speaker 6: pick today, No, absolutely not. I want that leaf flower 1439 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 6: fucking gone. 1440 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 1441 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 6: You can check out annex squared if you are so inclined. 1442 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 6: We make NFL head to head picks against each other. 1443 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 6: But uh, Cody let's triple box this thing. Jay, thank 1444 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 6: you for contributions. You can see him with Bala Muhammad 1445 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 6: every Thursday on this channel. God that audio kills me. 1446 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, so good, like you know, not for nothing. 1447 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:49,439 Speaker 3: You look great. 1448 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 6: No, it looked good, and he's gonna be apologetic. But 1449 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 6: there's nothing you can do. 1450 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 7: Beautiful kitchen, great pats hat do you think that? I mean, Dan, 1451 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 7: these Florida landscapers, huh, like the day after the hurricane. 1452 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 7: They don't give a fuck. 1453 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 3: Huh. 1454 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 6: They're just out there. 1455 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 3: Give me a little space. 1456 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 6: Sometimes I wonder though, people are just being nice about 1457 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 6: the hair, right, Like I understand that I have an issue, 1458 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 6: and so does he. I've been shaving my head since 1459 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 6: I was like fourteen, right, and here comes the apology. 1460 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 6: By the way, I've been shaved my head forever. He's 1461 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 6: been growing his hair obviously a long time. But like, 1462 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 6: I like, I'm not trying to be funny when I like, 1463 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 6: I just don't think it looks like it's like this 1464 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 6: long white Hairlo, what are we trying to do? 1465 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 7: He looks I of got that like Dumbledore Gandalf thing 1466 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 7: going on. 1467 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 6: I don't know what that means. 1468 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 3: It's like a Wizard. I like them. 1469 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 6: I like Oh, I like the long locks. It's longer 1470 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 6: than I than I than I saw last time. For sure, 1471 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 6: my dad just saw him for the first time in 1472 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,439 Speaker 6: six years. You know, like, what does he think? 1473 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 5: You know? 1474 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 6: I don't even know. I don't even know. Cody Marrow 1475 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 6: now joins us. Got a nice haircut, Cody, what's up? 1476 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 3: Man? Haircut? 1477 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 7: I'm letting the beard go. I'm trying to get my 1478 01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 7: Kenny on. 1479 01:06:59,440 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 5: Here you go. 1480 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 7: You can go over and use code ken flow at 1481 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 7: just from end dot com if you want. 1482 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 5: He doesn't. 1483 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 3: He doesn't use it. 1484 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 5: He doesn't use it. 1485 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 7: It's just a program. 1486 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 3: There's so many rumors about this now, guys, wildfire, it 1487 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 3: is all natty. There is a white hair somewhere right 1488 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 3: around here. Something. I'll pluck it, but I won't diet. 1489 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 6: You and Francisco Tronaldo both stopped aging at thirty three. 1490 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 3: He said that. 1491 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 6: He said he stopped aging at thirty three, and you 1492 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 6: know what, that's awesome. Oh man, Cody, what do you 1493 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 6: have for us that we might have missed? 1494 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 7: Good sir, h So just some quick button up points 1495 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 7: for UFC Fight Night two eleven. The bonuses were Brendan Allen, 1496 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 7: Chelsea Chandler, Guito Connetti and jua Quimsilva. Uh, Jua, you 1497 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 7: like that. 1498 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 6: I like how you nailed Gito Connetti and Joaquim Silva, 1499 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 6: two former Pronunciation of the Week names here on for once. 1500 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 7: For me once, I thought Chelsea Chandler was a great 1501 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 7: underdog that had no idea why Stoley Rnko was the favorite. 1502 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 7: There she's got she's one checkpony. She's got a good 1503 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 7: armbar which Chelsea Channeler almost got caught in the first 1504 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 7: But I thought that that was line was wild and 1505 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 7: Chelsea channel is huge. I mean she's going to be 1506 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 7: a contender. 1507 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that's fair. She's you know she 1508 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 6: I think if she's you know, twenty four to seven, 1509 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 6: three sixty five committed to thirty five, she could be 1510 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 6: really good BANDONM weight. But U yeah, nice debut for her, 1511 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 6: to be sure. 1512 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 7: Well, and I couldn't believe that she she was a 1513 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 7: lawyer before she went into MMA. I mean no, for no, 1514 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 7: I probably would have made a different choice myself. 1515 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 6: But well, I you know that didn't come up in 1516 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 6: our Fighter meeting. I mean I got my Chelsea Chandler 1517 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 6: notes here I mean, yes she did. She graduated from 1518 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 6: the University of Miami. I don't know that she went 1519 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 6: to the Gospel as any sort of practicing lawyer. I mean, 1520 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 6: let's see here, bachelor's degree from the University of Miami. 1521 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 6: But no, then went to time. I mean, you know, yeah, 1522 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 6: some of them was the I think you know like that. 1523 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 6: I don't know, all right, hopefully I. 1524 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 7: Listen, maybe maybe get the no. I won't even make 1525 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 7: a testical joke there. 1526 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 5: Lah. 1527 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 6: Her sister Colleen Shamdler. This didn't make the broadcast because 1528 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 6: it's a quick fight, but assister Colleen fights for in 1529 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 6: Victa f C. So the Chandler sisters both making those 1530 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 6: That's a great day, Golly or Chelsea Chambler. Colleen fucking 1531 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 6: Colleen got it done. Hey, you guys see colleens fighting 1532 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,560 Speaker 6: Saturday night at the Saturday it was fucking. 1533 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 7: Shell Westbury the Westbury Forum. Fight of the Night was 1534 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,799 Speaker 7: Castanedo versus Santos. Santos goddamn right, it was that was crazy. 1535 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,639 Speaker 6: That was a crazy fight, dude. How about Mollie cat 1536 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,480 Speaker 6: Daniel Santo's recoverability? 1537 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 7: I mean next level, you know, well, and it just 1538 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 7: goes to show you what an experienced ref in there 1539 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 7: can do, right, because an inexperienced ref probably would have 1540 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 7: stopped that fight. Uh you know, watching at home, I 1541 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 7: thought it maybe could have been stopped. But then you 1542 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 7: get robbed of a great performance like that. 1543 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 3: Cody, I'm gonna put you on the spot here mainly 1544 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 3: for my own ego. I did get that fight wrong. 1545 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 3: What's what? What's the what are the standings between me 1546 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 3: and our guy Ryan Patrick? 1547 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 6: Uh So, I think as it's go ahead, John, I 1548 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 6: was just gonna say, it's amazing how close it is 1549 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 6: in for a fight. 1550 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Kenny has like a one pick lead, 1551 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 7: but then because of the odds PvP, right, that's the thing, 1552 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:16,879 Speaker 7: A couple. 1553 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 3: Lead, son of a bitch. 1554 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 7: But it's it's very I mean we're what, we're ten 1555 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,719 Speaker 7: months in now, and it's a one pick difference. 1556 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's probably close, but it's close percentage wise. 1557 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, numbers very very close. Okay, So in 1558 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 7: the main event on Sean Jean Jan seven, UFC wins 1559 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 7: all by decision. So the next time she gets in there, 1560 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 7: maybe a hammer on the old decision ticket. Sadik's use 1561 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 7: of guillotine was thirty seconds in, but it was his 1562 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 7: first ever pro submission win. Don't sleep on super sidiks 1563 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 7: jiu jitsu. Huh. 1564 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1565 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 7: Brendan allen career finish rate is eighty percent. That's remember 1566 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 7: the show champ right there and leading into that. I 1567 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 7: was looking at the just the amount of fights that 1568 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 7: he had compared to Jocko. I mean, it's kind of crazy. 1569 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 7: He's twenty six year old. He's had like twenty nine profights. 1570 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 7: I think something crazy like that. 1571 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the hardest, got out against four or against Yeah, and. 1572 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 7: He doesn't do any favorites with the matchups. 1573 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, thirteen to zero answer record. He's now twenty and 1574 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 6: five as a professional. For his twenty seventh birthday. By 1575 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 6: the way, did you guys hear on the broadcast? I 1576 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 6: know Kenny didn't. So basically, Brendan Allen said that Jocko 1577 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 6: turned him down twice. Jocko didn't necessarily comment directly on that, 1578 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 6: but he said he then asked mcmaynard for the fight, 1579 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,599 Speaker 6: and he called Brendon Allen an annoying from Louisia. So, uh, 1580 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 6: you know, Brendan Allen went out and put that American 1581 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 6: Gramplin on him and damn. 1582 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,640 Speaker 7: So I gotta love that. So the last point on 1583 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 7: there was Gunna fly Now, which Latifi walked out to 1584 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 7: possibly Lativ's last fight and or last fight in the UFC. 1585 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 7: Gunna Fly Now is now tied with Stranglehold for the 1586 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 7: most wins in UFC walkout history. That info is be 1587 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 7: a Jay Petrie from Sure Dog not my own. Pretty 1588 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 7: interesting there. So if you're looking for a walkout fight 1589 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,799 Speaker 7: or car song, that that one's it. And then reported 1590 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 7: walk out information here. Matt Fravola has gotten permission to 1591 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 7: walk out to the Edwin Diaz trumpet song at MSG 1592 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 7: No Way. He talked to Steve Cohen, the owner of 1593 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 7: the Mets, and got permission to use it. So, oh, 1594 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 7: that place is going to be wow. 1595 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 6: I I don't know if that is lost on this 1596 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 6: audience how big a deal that is. But this Mets 1597 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 6: closer's entrance to this trumpet song is just the stuff 1598 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 6: of legends. And let us pray there are enough people 1599 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 6: inside Madison Square Garden at the time that Matt Vola fights, 1600 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 6: because that is absolutely awesome, and thank you for bringing 1601 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 6: that to my attention. That is really cool. 1602 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 7: I'm excited. Yeah, And then another I thought it was. 1603 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 7: If you go back and watch remember the show. Uh 1604 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 7: Blao was talking very very glowingly about his choice to 1605 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 7: go over to Abu Dhabi because he said it took 1606 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 7: him about a week and a half to get adjusted 1607 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 7: just to the climate, just to the time, and because 1608 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 7: this card is going to be on local time, that's 1609 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 7: another adjustment that fighters are gonna have to make. If 1610 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 7: you're showing up on Monday for that Saturday Sunday fight 1611 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 7: or whatever, I think you're doing yourself huge disservice. So, 1612 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 7: you know, part of me hopes that you know, this 1613 01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 7: is the only time I'm rooting against the Brady in 1614 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 7: any sport, but part of me hostas Sean Brady doesn't 1615 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 7: do his due diligence there. 1616 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting the last time we had a major 1617 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 6: pay per view in Abu Dhabi, if memory serves, I 1618 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 6: was on a treadmill at one thirty am and we 1619 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 6: were calling fights in the morning, and I think it 1620 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 6: was flipped right now it's catering to Abu Dhabi time. 1621 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 6: It'll be a primetime event there two pm Eastern in 1622 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 6: the States for the review and you know, yeah, I 1623 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 6: think though a lot of athletes they'd rather compete, you know, 1624 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,680 Speaker 6: at night than in the morning, so I do think 1625 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 6: it'll be easier on the fighters as a whole. But 1626 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 6: a good point. Nonetheless, do you have an NFL selection 1627 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 6: for us for a week five before we let you do? 1628 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 6: I do? And what are three on the year? 1629 01:13:59,240 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1630 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,760 Speaker 7: On the on the air, I mo and three, But 1631 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 7: I might my picks to you are at least somewhat successful, 1632 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 7: so you can cater to the audience and tell them 1633 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 7: that I'm not a horrible cap or at least not 1634 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 7: at all. So, but the official pick this week three? 1635 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 4: And what is the selection? 1636 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 7: So this week I'm going to the to the UK. 1637 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 7: I'm going across the pond for an early start. I 1638 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 7: love the Packers minus seven and a half against the Giants, 1639 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 7: who I don't think even have a quarterback on the 1640 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 7: roster at this point because they're heading over there, so 1641 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 7: they have to fly to London. Right Toarrod Taylor got 1642 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 7: a concussion, so can he even fly to London? 1643 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 3: We don't know. 1644 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones is a high ankle sprain. Flying to London 1645 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 7: ain't gonna make that any better, that's for damn sure. 1646 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 7: So I don't know who their quarterback is going to 1647 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 7: be heading into that event. That game, the Packers I 1648 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,679 Speaker 7: thought looked pretty bad against US, you know, almost lost 1649 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 7: the against New England Patriots. Bailey z Appy, the third 1650 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 7: quarterback on the roster, went to overtime. I think they're 1651 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,600 Speaker 7: gonna have a huge chip on their shoulder coming in 1652 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,640 Speaker 7: next week and have to really show themselves something. So 1653 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 7: minus seven and a half Packers, this is the pick 1654 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 7: for me. Packers fifth and total yards defensively, but twenty 1655 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 7: second against the run, which does give me a little 1656 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 7: bit pause. But I do just think the Packers are 1657 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 7: going to roll over the Giants in London. 1658 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 6: All Right, we'll see if that game stays on the 1659 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 6: board given some of the injuries for the New York Giants. 1660 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,600 Speaker 6: But Cody Merrills the Green Bay Packers minus seven and 1661 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 6: a half in Week five of the NFL. All right, 1662 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 6: thank you, good stuff man, My man. 1663 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love your shirt, bro, love your shirt. 1664 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks man. 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