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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lully with Matt Williamson and Tom

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Speaker 1: offer him. We got a special guest topping on here

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Speaker 1: with us now, yeah and turn give him your mic

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Speaker 1: in your chair. Right now, you have share Marco Bolli

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Speaker 1: joining us here from the athletic. As he wandered over,

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Speaker 1: you made the mistake of being the last guy, the

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Speaker 1: last guy wandering over after practice, so we had to surprise.

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Speaker 1: I'm the last guy right. Your shocked. Actually, Billy Hillgrove

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Speaker 1: just came through here a little bit. Hill Grove blew

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Speaker 1: me away. I mean it's so bad right now, guys.

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Speaker 1: I dropped my uh my roster and I had Brian

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Speaker 1: Backo pick it up for me because I couldn't bend over.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, I got it back, I

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Speaker 1: got it, And I gives him like, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: you know, Brian, why don't you go ahead of yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get that for your brother. You're not even doing

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Speaker 1: two days here. This is just one practicing goodness? Am

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Speaker 1: I getting old? Man? This is just not this is

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Speaker 1: not conducive to uh a healing Achilles. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you that not yet, not yet. That's probably not good

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Speaker 1: to tear him both in the same year. I think

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Speaker 1: that might have been where I went wrong the same

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Speaker 1: year and months, so Mark got practice finishing up out there.

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Speaker 1: What do you see? I think that, uh, I saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of rookie year Mason Rudolph, I like Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw Mason Rudolph, and I remember, obviously

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Speaker 1: when he was a rookie, came in. Everybody's eyes were

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Speaker 1: on him, first round grade, and he looked at me like,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, he's so good at all. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say that about Kenny Pickett, but he had some

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Speaker 1: floaters and some interesting passes. I mean, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: to tell because he's working with third and four teams

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Speaker 1: string guys right now, but I think they all might

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Speaker 1: have tried to pull the wool over her eyes with

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Speaker 1: these snap counts, my friends, you know, by my unofficial count,

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Speaker 1: they all sure looked like they were the same, just

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Speaker 1: different between one, two and three, I mean, the same number.

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee tell you this, Chris o Lducan didn't

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Speaker 1: have any snaps. He might as well been standing on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines with us, which means you can did me

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Speaker 1: up to snaps? But it's just a matter of who's

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Speaker 1: throwing to. If you're throwing too, you know, Calvin austin Ner,

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Speaker 1: if you're throwing to Chase Claypool, I think. And you

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Speaker 1: bring up a Chrystal Alltic on their their seventh round draftick, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of like I've heard the name

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Speaker 1: for now seventeen different ways. But people ask why would

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Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback in the seventh round like that?

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Speaker 1: And and my theory on this is that if you

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Speaker 1: look at his career path, what do you go to

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Speaker 1: three different schools? And he started at three different schools,

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Speaker 1: so he shows so he does, He's shown that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't need a lot of reps pick things up quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he could pick something you need him for a lot

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Speaker 1: of reps, right right. I mean the theory behind that is,

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Speaker 1: if Rudolph's gone, you have a number three potentially next

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Speaker 1: year that can be groom doing to a number two

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Speaker 1: and two year. If you stash him on your practice squad,

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Speaker 1: he gets play Lamar Jackson. Yeah, yeah, he gets its

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Speaker 1: value during a week. The different mobile quarterbacks that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see this year, Yeah, I mean I don't see

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Speaker 1: anything wrong whether that I talked to him in the

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Speaker 1: spring and he said, even if I wasn't drafted, I

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Speaker 1: was coming here. I don't know if that was him

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Speaker 1: just playing to the media or whatnot. So he wanted

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Speaker 1: to be here. It seems strange when you pick a

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Speaker 1: seventh round quarterback, you know, handful of picks from the

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Speaker 1: end of the draft, why didn't you just pick him up?

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Speaker 1: But if you like him, and they obviously liked him

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Speaker 1: in some capacity, you look, all four of him have

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Speaker 1: similar traits, not exact traits, but similar traits. So I

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Speaker 1: don't see anything wrong whether you look at the history

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Speaker 1: of seventh rounders and Kevin Cooper used always throw Brett

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Speaker 1: Keisel in her face, never threw Lee Maze and or

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I were him, I would rather go

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Speaker 1: mean first round quarterbacks, like you said, it's gonna demand

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Speaker 1: all the all the snaps. I mean, in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: not a favorable spot for him. But from the fact

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Speaker 1: don't know who the starter is, right right, And there

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Speaker 1: was an opportunity here potentially because all these guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: But if you go to Chris Oh right now and

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Speaker 1: Chase Daniels, do you think you would say? Okay, I

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Speaker 1: that way probably better than us. That's made a ton

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Speaker 1: of different money. And that's saying there's there's not many

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Speaker 1: seventh round quarterbacks, undrafted quarterbacks other than who Johnny You?

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Speaker 1: think they divvy up the preseason game reps thirty three

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Speaker 1: it was up to Tomlin that Drew Bisky would separate

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Speaker 1: you look at it right now, Picket is in a

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Speaker 1: any reps with one's offspring. At least Rudolph had games

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Speaker 1: It's just I find it a hard situation to find

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Speaker 1: you remember Mark back in two thousand four, Roethlisberger opened

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Speaker 1: it's hard to read in one practice, but Pick it

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Speaker 1: some of these linemen can do. What do you make

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Speaker 1: of this, Uh, Mark, I was just reading a thing

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Speaker 1: here that Kevins Stefanski came out today and told reporters

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Speaker 1: that if DeShawn Watson is suspended, which you can expect,

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brosett is going to be their starter. He's so

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Speaker 1: shocked he can't even speak right. As a matter, Jacob

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, Josh Rosen right, I mean, they have no plan.

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Speaker 1: But that guy's a stud quarterback man he gets back

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Speaker 1: midway through the season, you don't want to be playing

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe what the linebackers aren't the greatest in

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Speaker 1: I mean you cannot I mean, you talk about a

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Speaker 1: the question is what's the hold up right now? The

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Speaker 1: first of all, I can't think. I can't believe the

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Speaker 1: three left Jacobury percept me there. I mean, didn't he

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna win you some games. Speaking of cont

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Speaker 1: telling they put the contract on the table. This is

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Speaker 1: to him. Speaking of lenges. Mr Tom Bradley, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. It's gonna it's not up to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers there want to say this. We're not but

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Speaker 1: we'll budge a little bit this way, a budget, a

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Speaker 1: this money, well, oh well we've we've replaced that where

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Speaker 1: the other we're talking about life changing money. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: nothing for us like twenty bucks life changing for us.

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Speaker 1: But if you a little bit, if I find a

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Speaker 1: at his compensation this year, he's the sixty five highest

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Speaker 1: compensated wide receiver in the game today. He is certainly

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Speaker 1: there are guys who are not nearly as accomplished as

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Speaker 1: him getting paid a lot more money. It's not like

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Speaker 1: he has multiple years. They're not going to do what

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Speaker 1: they did with a B you know, gave him the raise,

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Speaker 1: the rip up the contract, the Mr Tom Bradley with

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Speaker 1: the quarter to Matt Way. They're not going to add

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Speaker 1: extra an extra avoidable year, right, now or I don't

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Speaker 1: even know they're allowed to do that or not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: put it this way regardless of the franchise franchise and

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Speaker 1: you want to franchise him. You're looking what is that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you've and they've showed they can replace guys. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're not perfect when they're not as perfect as

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Speaker 1: Marktboli of the Athletic We appreciate your stop and buy

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Speaker 1: mark in the sharing some information with us. Year. Did

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Speaker 1: By the way, on the drive, just looking here at

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Speaker 1: Bill barn Will published the thing today. It's called the

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Speaker 1: and so we beat him up at the line of scrimmage,

426
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: play man coverage, make Lamar hold the ball, blitz him

427
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: like crazy from all angles, and make him decipher it.

428
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: And he's shown that he doesn't do that well at all.

429
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the floor as example, was unbelievably obvious because

430
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: it was a standalone Thursday or Sunday game or whatever,

431
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: and they just left you know, Davin Howard and these

432
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: great corners one on one and brought it from everywhere

433
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: and not just five man pressure, seven man pressure safeties

434
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: you know, Holland at the line of scrimmage Christian and

435
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: made him. I'm not saying he's a slow processor, He's

436
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: not a good thinker, but I mean he was never

437
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: asked to do that his whole career because everyone feared it.

438
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: And it's a pretty gutsy move and he better be

439
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: working on that right now. Well, like you said that,

440
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: it's almost like a team is not setting him up

441
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: to do that. Well right, right, right, much more tight ends,

442
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: the more run, heavy on the bringing maybe a stud

443
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah right. I mean I don't

444
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: think a Marii Cooper is a great player, but maybe

445
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: you bringing a guy like that available, you know, someone

446
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: that beats man coverage, it gets open, you know, quickly. Yeah,

447
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I think it's the division is fascinating this year to me. Um,

448
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, everybody talks about the Steelers and there transition

449
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: away from big you know, from Ben Roethlisberger, you know,

450
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: and some of those things but the other teams in

451
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: the division all have major issues. They get they get

452
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: the most of. You know, we we talked previously about

453
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, the Bengals in their situation with now the

454
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: quarterback um Jesse Bates, who's there starting free safety, who

455
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: might be their best defensive player, and he's holding out.

456
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: He's he's he's franchise tagged right now, so he's not

457
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: under contract, and he has said he is not going

458
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: to report the camp until he has a new call.

459
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: If he's not under contract, he's not going to sign

460
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: that that franchise tag. This is a Levy on Bell

461
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: type situation for him. The writings on the wall that

462
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: they don't think that he's worth and they've said, like

463
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: we have to, we have to be careful with our

464
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: money because we know we have to pay the quarterback.

465
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: Down the road, they can pay those three, everyone else

466
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: is gonna suffer, you know, by the way they drafted

467
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: three safety exactly. I mean right, So he's probably gonna

468
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: be malcontent or not in camp or I could I

469
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: could definitely see him getting traded to another team before

470
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: the season starts. Yeah, someone will give him close to

471
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: make a money. Yeah, you know, so that I mean,

472
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the probably the best defensive player him or Hendrickson.

473
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean I think that's that's safe

474
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: to say, and that that's that's a major piece for

475
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: that team. I mean you all of a sudden and

476
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: what kind of message does that send in the locker room? Yeah,

477
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean for historically, we'll say frugal organization. You know,

478
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: it probably would have been a better look to keep

479
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: your own. I mean, they spent so much money on

480
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: the defense from outside the organization. How do you not

481
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: pay the guy who's the guy that you developed, you know,

482
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: that's done exceeded expecting. Do you think he deserves that

483
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: money though? Like you think he would he merits that though,

484
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I would say year or something like Yeah. I mean

485
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: he's to take the ball away the middle guy that's

486
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: hard to find. I don't think he's asking for for

487
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: makeup money. Maybe maybe not asking for that kind of

488
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: crazy amount set the market again, but he doesn't want

489
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: to play on the twelve million dollar yea, and he

490
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: probably will when it's all said and done and then delete.

491
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's a tough situation for them. And

492
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: I think this this situation in Baltimore. Um, you know

493
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: that could blow up on him to us on that list,

494
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: that's real big. I can't wait to see him in

495
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Tyreke and that dynamic play out, are you, especially with

496
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: how much Tyreek is gassing him up what he says

497
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: the other day, he was like, I love Patrick Mahomes,

498
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: but it's great to play for the most accurate quarterback

499
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's like, okay, I was too, I'd

500
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: be like, hey, can you cut it out a little bit?

501
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: He's really accurate, like a yard or two behind the

502
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: line of strat majority as fast as last year. Are

503
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: you a to a believer? Would you be buying or not?

504
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm perfectly on the fence with two, okay,

505
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: And if you, if you made me choose, I would

506
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: probably say I'm not a believer. I don't think yeah.

507
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple of these quarterbacks. I mean

508
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: I give teams credit like the Jets and Dolphins that

509
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna put everything there in front of you, even Philly,

510
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: that if you guys succeed. I'm more of a believer

511
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: in that quarterback. I take her to over right now.

512
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know what two is great at right.

513
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's overly talented, you know,

514
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know that he's got major weaknesses,

515
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have a superpower. Yeah, the Church at

516
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: least as a factor there. Yeah yeah, yeah. Ezekiel Elliott

517
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: is on this list for obvious reasons. He might be shot,

518
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: he might be done. He did come on a little

519
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: bit strong towards the end of last year. Right. It's

520
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: one of the worst contracts in the league though. I mean,

521
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: when you're paying a running back that yeah, yeah, and

522
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: he's you know all right, I mean Paulard might be

523
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: the better player. Yeah, it's a problem for them, uh,

524
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: you know, it just it happens to pretty much all

525
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: running backs. I mean, like Derrick Henry might be on

526
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: that list next year, you know, or I don't know

527
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: if he's on it this year, but I mean they're

528
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: gonna all hit that wall around that time. McKay Beckton

529
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: with the Jets is on the list. I just saw

530
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: a thing today. He got moved to right tackle. Yeah.

531
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to take of that. I mean,

532
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, body type wise, he looks more of like

533
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: a right tackle, but he was drafted to be a

534
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: left and there's some problem there and he said weight

535
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: and he's had injury issues. I think they lay like

536
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: fant enough to just kind of leave him at the left.

537
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: But it's not really a ring endorsement. No, it's not.

538
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: He could be on the move too. Yeah, that's for

539
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: you know that. He's what You're three. Now you're three,

540
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: and they got very little out of them in your two.

541
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh there's a coach on here and it's Josh McDaniels

542
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. You got it second time around. It

543
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. You've got a lot more talent this time

544
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: around too. Yeah, you're not dealing with t Bow this time.

545
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: Let's have an actual quarterback. Let's not forget he you know,

546
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: he turned down that Indianapolis job after coaching money to

547
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: stay in New England. That might not that might have

548
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: been a better situation at the time. Stable organization, stable organization.

549
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean they will be set up. They're the best

550
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: team in that division, I think so. Yeah. I mean,

551
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: I know the Titans had a better year last year

552
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I think it proved a quarterback. I

553
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: think Ryan better than Yeah, I agree. I think the

554
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Raiders are really interesting because when the offseason serving the

555
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: season ended last year or this offseason started. I think

556
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: they really could have went two ways. You know, we

557
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: could trade car and some assets, get super young, you know,

558
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: and as opposed to fighting Russ and Herbert and Mahomes,

559
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: let's totally rebuild here. But they went all in and

560
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: they're not as Yeah, I mean their quarterback isn't as young.

561
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Herbert and my Homes aren't going anywhere for

562
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: a long time. And I think part of it, and

563
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: I read this this the other day by NFL standards

564
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: that Davis family isn't as wealthy as others, and COVID

565
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: hit them extremely hard because they moved and built a

566
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: new stadium the worst year you possibly could. Yeah, and

567
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you're in this new town and you're trying to sell tickets.

568
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: So you know, going three and fourteen with a bunch

569
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: of future first round picks doesn't do that for you.

570
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: But they may really regret it two years from now. Yeah,

571
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and narrow lines bad. It is bad. Or

572
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Lando Brown another one of those franchises. I don't think

573
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: he's a left tackle, and he's he's an average left

574
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: It's an average left tackle. It's gonna get right right, Um,

575
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: and you have to play the right way. Yeah, he

576
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: has to admit that he's still super young, too old.

577
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll get paid by somebody, right, I mean,

578
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what to really make of him. I

579
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: thought his best fit was with Baltimore just being a big,

580
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: mashing run guy, perfect perfect fit for him as opposed

581
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: to throwing all the time and deep drops like the

582
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: home's head. You know. Yeah, there's another coach on here

583
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: that would be Mr Matt Rule of the Carolina Panthers,

584
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a no brainer. I mean, this

585
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: is a big year for him. That he doesn't move

586
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: the needle for me at all. No, I mean, like

587
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Campbell in Detroit, terrible team,

588
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: but he moves the needle. You can see him building

589
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: something there. Yeah, that's nothing. That's who he is. That's

590
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: who Matt Campbell. That they're they're the on hard knocks

591
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: this year, and I want to watch it just because

592
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I want to want. Yeah, I want to watch Campbell

593
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: and how he interacts with with his players because I

594
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's not And even though they were bad

595
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: last year, they were not easy to play against. No, No,

596
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: that first experience, their physical and they're at all do

597
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: you to quit on the season. Look at how Carolina

598
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: finished their year. After the first three games, I think

599
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: they won one game or something like that. Everybody was

600
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: like seven Darnold, look at the start from the Panthers. Yeah,

601
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: it's like a seven or eight game losing streaked. It

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: might be my nine game losing streak the end of

603
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, that's been a good way to

604
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: finish for for an owner who has been pretty aggressive,

605
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: overly aggressive. Maybe you're right to to a large degree.

606
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's on this list. It's a big year for like,

607
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be bad. They're gonna be bad, and Pete

608
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Carroll's seventy is he really gonna head up a rebuild draft.

609
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: What's gonna be interesting is if the forty Niners have

610
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: to cut Jimmy Garoppolo, because I think that's where he

611
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: d s up at. They flat out said it's trade

612
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Lance's team yesterday or whatever. He won't be So do

613
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: they just take whatever they can get for Jimmy Garoppolo

614
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: or do they end up cutting him? I mean, is

615
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: he worth more than Baker? I mean, they didn't get

616
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: hardly anything for Baker. Yeah, I mean it's a big contract.

617
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: I can't It's a bit way way bigger contract than

618
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: what Baker was getting. It's plenty five million dollars right right, No,

619
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I bet he gets very few teams that can take that.

620
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: That contract on Seattle is just so interesting though, because

621
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: they are probably gonna be crap. But two stud receivers

622
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: still that if you Christmas just retired, Yeah, that stinks.

623
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Star line is still trash, still work in progress. But

624
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: if you drop a somewhat decent quarterback into that position,

625
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: he's got weapons he can put up points with. I mean,

626
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: like is not going to get his right. But Carol's

627
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: an interesting spot. Like you said, I mean, just at

628
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: his age, do I want to put a five year

629
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: plan together? Five year plan is a retirement home and

630
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. And while I rebuild a line and you know,

631
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: fight with those three quarterback some division I didn't seaddles

632
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: in for a long couple of years. Interesting to note

633
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: that I saw somebody sent me some odds last week.

634
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: I get this all. I get the odds sent to

635
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: me all the time, and and they sent me the

636
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: odds on Jimmy Garoppolo's next landing spot and for once,

637
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers weren't on the list. Well, when you have

638
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks, you think you'd eventually push away the

639
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: Vegas book he's from sending you on this list. Yeah,

640
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: that we would think there's no vacancy sign on that

641
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: room anymore. Speaking of quarterbacks, Carson Wentz is on this list.

642
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: If he fails, does he become that Fitzpatrick journeyman lifetime back? Yeah,

643
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: has a random good year with the Jets, right right,

644
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: that showed just enough that you bring him in as

645
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: a He might be your bridge or he could be

646
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: your yeah every year, or I think there's a chance

647
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: he rejuvenates his career and is at best quarterback. Kirk Cousins. Yeah,

648
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: it's still an India if they don't lose the Jacksonville

649
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, Yes, right, if they won that game and

650
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, even if they get slaughtered in the playoffs,

651
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: they're going into two with Wentz again. Yeah. I think

652
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: he got a little too much heat for that game,

653
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: just for the Colts struggles. I mean, he wasn't great

654
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: for them, but he was terrible against the Raiders before

655
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: that game. They were really bad down the stretch. Yeah,

656
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: but I mean, he didn't turn the ball over that much.

657
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad he didn't end up here, don't

658
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: get me wrong, But I don't know that his books

659
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: totally written yet. But yeah, I think he took a

660
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: little bit too much of that. Jalen Hurts and Daniel

661
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Jones on the list for obvious reasons. Jeff A. Kuda

662
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: on that list as his Trayvon Dicks a couple of

663
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: cornerbacks in different, real, different situations. The world's super high

664
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: on digs and down on a Couta right now. But

665
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Couta is a top five pick that's done nothing in

666
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: this league at this point, and their corner rooms really

667
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: bad they need. I mean, that defense would be respectable

668
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: if he plays like a you know, a star. He's

669
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: still just twenty three though. Yeah, yeah, he brought this

670
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: up a lot. A lot of these top corners have

671
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: changed teams, changed teams, and then get it, the next

672
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: team might really be happy about Jeffer Coudo eleve picks,

673
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: but people still kept throwing to him, right. It wasn't like, yeah,

674
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: they don't fear him like other like a J. Terrell

675
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: in Atlanta players like that, right, Yeah. Brian guten kissed

676
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: on that list. Uh Duke Tobin, the director of player

677
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: personnel for the Cincinnati Bengals, on that list. No, I

678
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: guess he's got right, but that do they have a

679
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: true GM though it's Mike Brown's the GM. Tobin's the guy.

680
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: He's the football guy. Yeah, he's the football I guess

681
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of back to a conversation you brought before.

682
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, how do we keep Burrow Higgins Chase and

683
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: stay competitive because they're that window is closing real soon.

684
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: Contract really yeah, I mean you're you know, you've got

685
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: one more year of of Burrow based on what other

686
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: teams have done with the quarterback situation. Side note, That's

687
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: why I had That's another reason I had a problem

688
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: with the Kyler contract. They why would you jump the gun?

689
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Because he was he will yeah, um, and they're married

690
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: to him. I mean, I would imagine what Burrow is

691
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna cost and Herbert. If Kyler cost that, it's gonna

692
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: be a big time more, big time money, big time money.

693
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break, We're gonna do the same thing.

694
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you guys a little heads up here

695
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Steelers from it on the hot seat

696
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: or it's the pivotal year four. We'll do that when

697
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: we were obvious ones off top. Absolutely, we'll talk about

698
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: that when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. That

699
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: is shirtless Tom Offerman. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

701
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: back to finish up the show right after this. He's

702
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your

703
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

704
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson, Tom Opferman. We

705
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: are live here from Steelers training camp at St. Penncent College,

706
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna finish up the show here. We just

707
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: talked about Bill Barnwell's list of guys around the league

708
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: who are on the hot seat, who who are have

709
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on them this year. You know

710
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: what what you gonna say? Um So let's now talk

711
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: There were no Steelers on his list. Give Tom first pick. Yes,

712
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna say who's on that list this

713
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: year for this Steelers team, I mean the obvious one

714
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: is number fifty five? Right? That was I think right

715
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: off the page. Ye not just for a product on

716
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: the field for Steelers fans in the Steelers success, but

717
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: in his own mind, and he's got trying to get

718
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: that second contract. Now. You don't want to be out

719
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: on the open market after another doubt of a year

720
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: like this that ends to an early exit from this league.

721
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: For a top ten pick, I think the second obvious

722
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: one is Claypool. Okay, you know that it's both those

723
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: guys should be creeped into my mind as an obvious

724
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: one too. Maybe, yes, I say Claypool because I think

725
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: similar because they the perception, especially with Claypool, was worse

726
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: than he actually was. That's a good point. But his

727
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: ceiling is very high, you know, like those guys could

728
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: both rebound and be very good football players. I mean,

729
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: I don't know my banking on it necessarily, but I

730
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: think they could. I have more faith in Claypool than Bush.

731
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: Bush is the higher pedigree draft pick to which then

732
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: gave up a lot to go. Yeah. Um yeah, those

733
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: are those are two good ones. I'm gonna go with

734
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky as a guy because this is we just

735
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: had that same conversation. It's very similar situation to Carson

736
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: wins in that Okay, you had four years in Chicago,

737
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: there was some success there. Last year, the league's leak said, hey,

738
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: you're a backup. This year, you're getting an opportunity to

739
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: be a starter again. If he shows he can be

740
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: a starter for this team, and and and not even

741
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: if if he could be an average starter, he doesn't

742
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: have to blow anybody away, couples, but if he could

743
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: be an average starter, even if it doesn't work out here,

744
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: necessarily down the road, if Kenny Pickett, you know, all

745
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: of a sudden comes in and wins the starting job

746
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: next year, Rubinsky will still be young enough that he'll

747
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: get another shot somewhere else. But if it's the opposite,

748
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: if he struggles, struggles, struggles, Picket takes over in week eight,

749
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: his probably career is then he's probably a career backup.

750
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: He's playing Gamberts or you know, one of those guys

751
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: that probably lasts in the league but is never given

752
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: another starting channel. That's fine for some people, but not

753
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: the guy who you mentioned, Chukes. I think that's a

754
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: real good one. Um. I think what's interesting is a

755
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: lot of the guys they signed this year, including Chokes

756
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: jack Um, a lot in Travisky, you know, a lot

757
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: of those dudes that are either new to the team

758
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: or were signed in the off season, were to two

759
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: year deals with that second year almost like an option here,

760
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: like a team option year. That you think, oh, they

761
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: got these guys locked up for two years, which is

762
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: great if they're good. But not every one of them

763
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: is going to be good. I mean, maybe Jack flops,

764
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, but all those guys could be pushed right

765
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: out the door if they aren't. You know what they

766
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: think they are. So a lot of those contracts are

767
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: really team friendly, and therefore that players under a lot

768
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: of stress. I'm gonna give you guys an under the

769
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: radar one and market marka Boldy kind of referenced it

770
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. Kevin Dowson. This is a pivotal year

771
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: for Kevin Dotson. In two seasons, he started fourteen games.

772
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: But in two seasons he's only started fourteen games. If

773
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: you get what I'm like, Kendrick Green might be a

774
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: year away from having this conversation where Dotson's that year

775
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: ahead and this is this is the one, like, you

776
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: better show you can do it and stay healthy for

777
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: a complete season, because if you can't, if he if

778
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: he starts this year, it starts another ten or eleven

779
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: games and gets hurt and doesn't finish, they're gonna start

780
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: looking for somebody else. I mean they're already keep doing

781
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: with Kendrick Green because you've shown you can't stay healthy. Yeah,

782
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I was thinking defensive side of

783
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: the ball, not to the extent of some of the

784
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: other guys we've mentioned, because I think he's had more

785
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: success than them. Well maybe not Claypool, but Alex Highsmith

786
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: opposite of t J. Watt need to be a little

787
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: bigg a little bit more Robin, you know, a little

788
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: bit more in the pass rush. I think he's pretty

789
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: good stopping the run. It's so tough though at that position.

790
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Matt and I've talked about this before, Tom, Like when

791
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: the guy on the other side of you is getting

792
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: twenty two and a half, ye, he's beating you to

793
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback. How many of those if he's playing next

794
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: to an average or just an above average pass rusher there?

795
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: Does he have ted sacks last year because he was

796
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: a split second behind t J getting there? Yeah, something

797
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: like that, but seven eight sacks? Yeah, yeah, my goal

798
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: from high Smith and I think that's a good one

799
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: from this perspective, is, as is the case with every player,

800
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: the front office coaching staff is gonna get together after

801
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: the season. And if it's a consensus in that room

802
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: when they talk about high Smith of oh yeah, he's

803
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: the answer, but you want to extend him, that's a

804
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: success to me. Like he doesn't be Lawrence Taylor, you know,

805
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but if he's a long term

806
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: stealer they want to give a second contract to, that's

807
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: a huge hit for me. This one's a little down

808
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the line. But how about Percy Harvin Is pivot was

809
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But Harvin, I mean, he's kicking

810
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: in some other league, punting in some other league if

811
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't this team. He's got ability. He had a

812
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: really rough year on and off the field the right right,

813
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the opportunity is still there to take it,

814
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean high hopes for one year ago, um,

815
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: and he didn't really take advantage of it. But he's

816
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: back in camp and if he's a star, he's gonna

817
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: be a punny punter for this league for twelve years.

818
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: If he's not, and he's gonna be somewhere else, we'll

819
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: say this, You know, the guy that they signed, Cameron

820
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: nizilacuh is not just a throwaway punter. He's kicked in

821
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: this league uh and and actually kicked reasonably well. And

822
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: that was for the Falcons last year. So he was

823
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: kicking indoors. Yeah, yeah, but he kicked off and he

824
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: it was it was three or four games. But so

825
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: he's not just your average. They just brought in a

826
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: camp like, they brought in somebody who can actually potentially challenge. Yeah,

827
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: probably take a lot, because you know, they like Harvin,

828
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: but if he falters, if he doesn't have a good preseason,

829
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: Cameron Yela could take that job. It just stinks, still

830
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: sour taste in my mouth that Harvard, probably rightfully so

831
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: won the job last year over Barry, and then Barry

832
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: goes to Minnesota and is one of the better putters

833
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: in the kicking indoors. Little different. The artists formerly noticed

834
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Hinesfield kicking there different ball game. It's a different ballgame

835
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: in December. Yeah, I don't know many other names. I mean,

836
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: the offense is so young. I'll give you one more, alright,

837
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Torrell Edmonds. I thought about him because I mean he

838
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: didn't get the money there that at least didn't sign

839
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: for the money that he thought he was going to

840
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: get on the open market. Apparently had no market. But

841
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: if he has another year like he had, I thought

842
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: he was pretty solid last year. I think a solid

843
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: described his whole career. Really, it's very solid, un spectacular,

844
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: you know. So first round pick works against him because

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Speaker 1: you should be a star with the fans. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that if he was a second round pick, they'd

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Speaker 1: be Edmunds Jerseys and boy, good pick solid if you

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Speaker 1: were picked five picks later, your quality pick. Nice job.

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Speaker 1: Day two guys started, you know, light a million snaps here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by far, the most consistent member of the

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Speaker 1: defense to stay on the field for the past four years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, right, never know what you're getting already.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of fluctuation there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, let's put it this way. If

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush we're to somehow become have to reach Terrell

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Speaker 1: Edmonds level, right, Like, okay, yeah, right, we're having a

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Speaker 1: different conversation about Devon Bush. Yeah, okay, he was the

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Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft. I get it they traded

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Speaker 1: up for him. But he's he's a he's an average starter.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even an average starter last year. You need

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Speaker 1: to be much better than that, right, I guess this

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Speaker 1: applies to Bush. But the run defense is a whole.

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Speaker 1: Is it a pivotal sall? No doubt? Yeah, And there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of factors. They are a playff. How about

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Speaker 1: this last one here, Matt Canada. Yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: in the line time this year. If this is a flop,

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Speaker 1: I think he's because there's no excuse now right now, Uh,

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Speaker 1: my offense, we don't have the personnel in place. Personnel

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Speaker 1: in place. Now you picked the personnel. There was certainly

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Speaker 1: a case to go get a new offensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: when you have a new quarterback then in the offense

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Speaker 1: is totally young. You could have totally started over. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: now it's on you. We gave you what you wanted.

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Speaker 1: We trust your system. Yeah, you better show progress. It

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Speaker 1: reminds me of Staley and l A for the charge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was on the defensive guy. You know, he needs

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Speaker 1: to be a lot better. They bring him in from

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Speaker 1: the rams to be that defensive guy for that great offense.

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Speaker 1: The defense stunt last year and it's like, oh I

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Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't have personnel they signed a lot

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Speaker 1: of this year, so now it's gonna be pointed right

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Speaker 1: back at him. I wonder if he's less aggressive this

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Speaker 1: year than what he was last year and on the

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Speaker 1: fourth downs. I bet no. I think he's a tried

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Speaker 1: and because you get a better team. I think you

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Speaker 1: have a better team, like you don't have to take

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Speaker 1: as many chances when you get the better you got,

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Speaker 1: the better personnel. I just think he's wired and taught

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Speaker 1: or whatever. You can hunt now because your defense is good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's his style. I think he this

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Speaker 1: is an analytist guy, true and true and the numbers

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Speaker 1: they go for it. Yeah, that doesn't mean that you know,

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Speaker 1: when the winds swirling in your right guard can't block

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. That the numbers don't account for those situations,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, And I think that's he needs to

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Speaker 1: learn that as a young head coach, like, there's definitely

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Speaker 1: guts still involved, even if you're a strict analytic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you're a lines coach like coach, we can't block

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Speaker 1: anybody like the number yeah right, So I think he

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Speaker 1: needs to learn those things. I don't know that he

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Speaker 1: will pivotal here from Mike Thomlins. No, No, I think

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Speaker 1: it's like the Brady conversation for we scoffing off the air,

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Speaker 1: like why is Brady on this bart In World list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a pretty good book written already.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be right around five at the worst.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably get over five because that's what he does.

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Speaker 1: But even they win five games, I'm not gonna think

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Speaker 1: lest One was a coach. Yeah, you know, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be on board for this transition period for the

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Speaker 1: next five years. There's no reason to panic. If it's

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Speaker 1: a rocky first year. It's a long way to go

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Speaker 1: with this process. There's a long way to go with

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Speaker 1: this training camp. How about that transition in the books?

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Speaker 1: Day one is in the books. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: our our guests, Mark Caboli and the great Bill hill

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Speaker 1: Grove for stopping by and chatting with us here a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Uh thank you Tom Offerman for dropping by

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Speaker 1: as well, and Matt Williamson, my typical UH CO partner

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Speaker 1: in crime. I'm Dale Ali. We also want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of The Drive here

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Speaker 1: live from Steelers training Camp. Day one of Steelers training

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Speaker 1: Camp two is in the books. We'll be back to

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Speaker 1: talk to you again tomorrow right here on Steelers Nation Radio,

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