WEBVTT - ICYMI: What To Wear - Wedding Season

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, I'm Rachel So and you're listening to Climbing

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<v Speaker 1>in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour inspiration and

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's fun. It's that time of year when

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<v Speaker 1>wedding season has officially begun and all the what should

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<v Speaker 1>I wear A questions start rolling into my dms, and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of focusing on bridal fashion, which can be very

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<v Speaker 1>personal and specific, I thought this week I would focus on.

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<v Speaker 2>What to wear as a wedding guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to help me is my ever always amazing, dazzling,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful producer Mary Elizabeth. So let's dive right into wedding

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<v Speaker 1>season styling. And by the way, the fact that she

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<v Speaker 1>thinks we won't talk about bridle gowns is crazy, So

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<v Speaker 1>we will touch.

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<v Speaker 3>On I don't want the bride. I mean, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>kick it off. Tis this season for the wedding invites

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<v Speaker 3>to be rolling in. I am in the season of

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<v Speaker 3>my life where I'm past the six to seven wedding

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<v Speaker 3>commitments a year or summer.

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<v Speaker 1>My nephew has eleven yeah weddings this year and actually

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<v Speaker 1>all destination.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think from the ages of like twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty two, I couldn't a fortification because I was

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<v Speaker 3>attending as many weddings as I as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you make them vacations though, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're a destination wedding, you can definitely tack on

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<v Speaker 3>a day or two before or after.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the time of your life where you're working,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't just take time off.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's be honest, like if it's in NAPA, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>am I gonna burn a day off to be a NAPA? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if I don't really want to be?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, right, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's you're at the mercy of wherever you've been

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<v Speaker 3>invited to.

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<v Speaker 1>But these greattinations that I'm hearing now are like all

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<v Speaker 1>over Italy every budget, by the way, they're not. What

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually is, it's weirdly more cost effective very often to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do destination I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean maybe you just keep the number so small.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's an edit that is sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's going to eliminate some but then some.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, you know, you and I were just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this. It's when you have big life events, it's

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<v Speaker 3>shocking who you invite that you think are absolutely shoe

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<v Speaker 3>ins that can't or aren't able to come, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the people on the list that are you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not as priority will show up and half of the

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<v Speaker 3>best time so you never know. But wedding season is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone has RSVP'd. There's a lot of questions always on

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<v Speaker 3>social media for you this time of year about not

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<v Speaker 3>only the brides but wedding guests mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tough it's a tough conversation because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many variables and I've seen it go wrong. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen on more than ten occasion the guests showing up

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<v Speaker 1>in white, which.

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<v Speaker 2>To me is common sense, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, maybe it's not. And I you know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone texted me a picture. They were in Palm Beach

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<v Speaker 1>and they were texting me what I thought of something

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a wedding in Palm Beach And it

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<v Speaker 1>was white with like metallic like fringe and crystals and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, but it's white. She's like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because it has so many crystals and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, do white the bride. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 3>you what. The bride won't care. It'll be white to her.

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<v Speaker 2>White.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's jump into some questions people have about going

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<v Speaker 3>to weddings they've been invited. Sometimes there's you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>tire listed, sometimes there's not. So let's just break it down.

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<v Speaker 3>What does cocktail attire mean? If the wedding invite says

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<v Speaker 3>cocktail attire, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I think till means they want you to dress up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Please dress up? Don't look regular. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>regular day. Please dress up for us. But like, feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to wear short. Like to me, when I hear cocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>it means you can wear short. It means you can

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<v Speaker 1>wear any length of dress. Yes, okay, it means you

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<v Speaker 1>can wear any length of dress. It means you could

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<v Speaker 1>wear like a dressy tuxedo, like a white suit.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It means to look polished and whatever your interpretation of

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<v Speaker 1>that is. Please don't wear sneakers, right, Please don't wear jeans, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And like, put some effort

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<v Speaker 1>in and dress up for us. But you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be formal, gotcha, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a huge gray area there. Yeah, you could also.

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<v Speaker 1>Wear long, but the difference there would be you're not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a train for cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You could wear flowy, but I would wear your hair down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would wear like fun jewelry, not like your

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<v Speaker 1>diamond necklace, right if you should have one, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You should wear fau diamond necklace. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So what does cocktail attire mean for men? Because okay,

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<v Speaker 3>as most of our listeners know, you're also you're not

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<v Speaker 3>only dressing yourself but a wedding, but you're dressing your

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<v Speaker 3>plus one usually totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say cocktail for men means no tie. Okay

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's no tie, yep, formal is tie?

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<v Speaker 3>So like a suit, a nice crisp shirt, uh huh,

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<v Speaker 3>but no no tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You also don't have to wear a white shirt, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be like a navy jacket and a blue shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a pink shirt and a white jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>Depends on the vent.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say there's so many variables, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you in cocktail at a beach?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? You in the city? Are you in Italy? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Because all of those things weigh in, right, because cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in Italy on the Amalfi Coast, like, you

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<v Speaker 1>should wear a print, right, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like to me, cocktail the type of clothes don't change

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<v Speaker 3>based on the venue. Just the fabric will change, right, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>Like a man can wear a suit if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>cocktail at the beach or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But wear cocktail for a man, you wear a jacket, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you wear a jacket. You can wear kackis. You can

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<v Speaker 1>wear trousers and like driving loafers or something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a drop a nicer shoe. Yes, yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that clears that up. Now, what does black tie or

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<v Speaker 3>formal mean when it's on an imitation?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So black tie means tuxedo means a tux.

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<v Speaker 2>Black tie is a tux. Now, I do think there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Some room for guys to wear a black suit with

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<v Speaker 1>a black tie and not a bow tie. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>black tie is your most formal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, formal the Great Gatsby correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Formal is a full suit and tie for a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>For a woman, black tie means full gown, gown, gown long,

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<v Speaker 1>not short. You're not wearing not midi.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Wear midi if it's fabulous, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>You can because there is like no midi sun dress

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<v Speaker 3>like Kuriti car acts actual like sequence or sparkle of sorts,

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<v Speaker 3>speeded something. A very dressy dress does not have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a train necessarily, but you are your most dressed

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that is. Like even if you look back at

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Gatsby.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those were right, they were many MIDI right,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, but it just means not short in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it? So black tie?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'll be honest with you. In La

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<v Speaker 1>I see short for black tie all the time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it depends on where you live. In Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>in London, in Europe, you're not wearing short to a

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<v Speaker 1>black tie, right, yeah, calamarian, Yeah, I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>literally seen people wear jeans to a black tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, shook me out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's not great. No, so when you see black tie,

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<v Speaker 3>you go full gown?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, full stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I am in a gown for a black tie

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it's a great way to like.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at it as like a moment, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>how often do you get to do that? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>some people more than others, of course, but like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. And I would say formal is one notch

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<v Speaker 1>down from black tie. I think formal gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>little more room for interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea with formal is please dress up very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, be dressy yes, okay, other than wearing white.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think are some don'ts or wedding guest

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<v Speaker 3>faux pause that you've seen in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Anything that reads bridle?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like anything that reads that sort of like lacey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like don't wear a pink lace gown. Yep, like a

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<v Speaker 1>blush pink lace gown. I have seen someone wear like

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful dulce gown with the train to a wedding. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bridal gown that happens to be blushed pink.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little, very nice, little but because I will even ask

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes what the bridesmaids are wearing, because I've had an

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<v Speaker 3>experience that I come looking like a bootleg bridesmaid because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing, you know, a navy whatever, and they're a

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<v Speaker 3>navy too, So I think that for women you should

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<v Speaker 3>ask that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the more information you have about

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<v Speaker 1>the bride and what the bridal party is doing, the

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<v Speaker 1>better if you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard don't wear red to a wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I have not.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that recently online. Yeah, to avoid wearing red

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<v Speaker 3>at a wedding. I don't know, maybe it calls too

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<v Speaker 3>much attention to yourself or maybe it's bad, like bad juju.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I saw like, oh, don't wear that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's red. You shouldn't wear red.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Oh, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. So maybe avoid white and red.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, No, I haven't heard that, but I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it does call attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I guess red does, and maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a good way and in a bad way, So

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of get that. Okay, you were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>this earlier, But opera gloves are very much back on

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<v Speaker 3>the red carp but ar and they're back in the

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<v Speaker 3>bridal world there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they ever left. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so chic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, Okay, I mean I guess they left.

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<v Speaker 1>They come and go, but I think I see European

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<v Speaker 1>brides wearing gloves.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm very I'm very.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange about bridal things because that's where like my classic

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<v Speaker 1>traditionalism comes out, because that day, to me, is not

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<v Speaker 1>a trendy day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a day to fall victim to what's trending.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really like, when I think about anything bridal, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's the wedding or anything else, what are you you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to look back at these pictures for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, forever?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going to love forever? And not? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody knows that, but I think you go to.

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<v Speaker 1>The Grace Kelly's of the world, Like, yes, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to those iconic like Kate Middleton moments, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at like, what are your most iconic favorite

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<v Speaker 1>bridal moments in history? Yeah, and pull off that right

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<v Speaker 1>if that resonates with you, because you also could be

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<v Speaker 1>Gwen Stefani and wear like a gradiated pink right Vivian Westwood,

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<v Speaker 1>which was epic, right, it was a bit rock and roll,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and that's true to her and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's still like that, So clearly I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have to be true to you and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you are at the court. But I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>point is, think long and hard about it. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>very traditional about rings because they're forever, So when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to forever things, I'm very I would say I'm traditional.

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<v Speaker 3>You're trend averse. What's the veil that's like the cap veil,

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<v Speaker 3>the one from yeah or No, but like the short

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<v Speaker 3>ones that are like very like forties retro but like

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<v Speaker 3>doing somewhere Mad Hatter right to like Reese Witherspoon and

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet Came Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of veil. I think you should just do it,

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<v Speaker 3>because again, when else are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Wear a veil?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Where the gloves? Where are the tiara?

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<v Speaker 2>Where the tir? Where the gloves? Wear the veil?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? If that feels right for you, because again you

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<v Speaker 3>have to look back to your point. But if you're

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<v Speaker 3>questioning it, yeah, just do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? That's when?

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<v Speaker 2>When else are you wearing gloves a tiara in a veil? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Never unless you like, well, unless you get married again yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're an actor and you dress up a lot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So you're a guest for a wedding, it says cocktail.

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<v Speaker 3>What are some of your go to brands that you

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<v Speaker 3>would suggest for people to look as wedding guests?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, it's all about budget, right, Yet I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, I have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>You have four and a summer and you are on

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<v Speaker 3>a tighter budget.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you I have helped so many

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<v Speaker 1>people find dresses for weddings. I have also I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you know this, but one of my clients

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<v Speaker 1>is my sister Pamela.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, I do that, and my mother, but my

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<v Speaker 3>most challenging.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Is always on a budget and she has found some

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<v Speaker 1>incredible dresses. And I think because of the wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 1>we call shopping on the internet. Yes, yes, there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many incredible resources to find your dream dress and

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<v Speaker 1>then shot like search around at different sites to find

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<v Speaker 1>the dress. And my sister, yes, and so many things

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<v Speaker 1>are on such seal and all these things so you

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<v Speaker 1>can get dream dresses at great markdowns at any time,

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<v Speaker 1>because wedding guest dresses are pretty seasonless for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending but I love Alc. Alc is great and ranges

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<v Speaker 1>in pricing. Chummy, your momo is excellent on a budget

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<v Speaker 1>or not. They have incredible like sparkly dresses, they have

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<v Speaker 1>great guest of they have great bridesmaids dresses. Show me

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<v Speaker 1>your mimo is incredible and so reasonable. I love I

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<v Speaker 1>would say Zara because I love Zara as a go

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<v Speaker 1>to the problem is there might be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other people at the wedding wearing the dress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that brand Bronx and Bunco. I believe it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the ANC.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Revolve is a great resource or guest of wedding dresses.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say your office. Our team is also big, big

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<v Speaker 3>fans of shopping on the real reel for something vintage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I want to talk about that reel is amazing

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<v Speaker 1>because you can get your dream dress and be great

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<v Speaker 1>the environments yep, at a great price. Shoes as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and jewelry and bags. Also rent the runway any places

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Janet Mandel. Here in La New York Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that have rental.

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<v Speaker 3>Houses now for events like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Because especially in your late twenties, mid to late twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>you're rolling with the same group of people to most

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<v Speaker 1>of these events. You can't you don't want to wear

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<v Speaker 1>the same dress every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some grace for repeat totally, but ideally

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wear it one.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want the you don't want the friend group

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<v Speaker 3>picture to look the same at everybody's wedding now because

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's wearing the same thing. No, those are great, Those

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<v Speaker 3>are great options. I also love that brand Study. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got really cute guests, and I think they do a

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<v Speaker 3>little bridal collection.

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<v Speaker 1>Stott is great, I know the founder, and then also

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<v Speaker 1>kult Gaya is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there's gorgeous to but it reaches a price,

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<v Speaker 3>it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does arrange in price, and I find a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these designers start in the twos and go

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<v Speaker 1>up obviously way higher. But yeah, I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a beautiful dress for you know, for the prece

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for for sure, oh for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's leave the listeners with some bridal inspoll. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So we were talking about Sofia Ritchie's wedding, yes last year, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>which if you didn't see it, you might be living

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<v Speaker 3>under a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You are living under something.

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<v Speaker 3>But she was married at Rachel's dream location, yes, Hotel

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<v Speaker 3>two cop in the south of France on the French Riviera.

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<v Speaker 2>God help me.

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<v Speaker 3>She wore a custom channel eight of them. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she had multiple and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just the most flushing, beautiful, beautiful bride. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that was so epic about Sophia

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<v Speaker 1>and Listen. I've known Sophia since she was three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a wonderful, kind, sweet, beautiful girl woman, young woman,

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<v Speaker 1>now married and about to have a baby, to have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. But she approached her wedding the way you

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<v Speaker 1>dream too, which is blissfully happy. She's madly in love

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<v Speaker 1>with her husband, as one should be. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>an overall tone to her wedding weekend which was this

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<v Speaker 1>very like Bardeux on the French riviera. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an effortlessness to every single look she wore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was clearly her.

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<v Speaker 2>Intention, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Was to not be this fussy, uptight bridal looks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was really meant to be historical, classic, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>very French for French riviera, chanel all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was magical and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Done flawless, really flawless.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So who were some of your other like bridal icons.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Carolyn Bassett Kennedy Listen was a whole movement.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like in the nineties minimal.

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<v Speaker 1>Carolyn Bessett Kennedy also wore gloves, didn't she I think

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<v Speaker 1>she might have warn Gloves.

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<v Speaker 2>With her right love dress.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure she did.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to say the thing about the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Carolyn Bessett Kennedy makes she rest in peace because

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<v Speaker 1>still one of the most tragic things ever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But she literally yes, you were sheer gloves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about Krolyn Bassett, She's everything I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why I was so obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>her and her look because it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like barely any makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the most simple, beautiful bride of Like it's just iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she was iconic in the polar opposite

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<v Speaker 1>way of like, you know, when we saw Kate Middleton

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<v Speaker 1>with her.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say, it's it's the junct juxtaposition of

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<v Speaker 4>like they are American loyalty and to have such a simplistic, classic, clean,

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<v Speaker 4>minimal look and feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Is is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just cool, like, so don't forget.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, I think it was late nineties, was

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<v Speaker 1>also the Cape Moss era and Kate Moss would wear

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<v Speaker 1>like a John Golliano or a Calvin Klein, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>slip dress with her hair just like she wrote back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful little kitten heels or whatever, and yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's it and like a sheer gloss call it a

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<v Speaker 1>day for a red lip, matt red lip, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so epically beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think those are iconic moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you think of Grace Kelly, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I do when I think of Kate Middleton.

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<v Speaker 2>When I think of.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and Grace Kelly, I mean, you were at Paris

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<v Speaker 3>Hilton's wedding, yes, and that Oscar de la Reenta was there.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked to be very inspired by it was, and

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<v Speaker 3>Fernando and Laura Kim designed that for Paris along with

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<v Speaker 3>so many of her other looks that night, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there and she was legitimately flawless. She was the

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<v Speaker 1>most beautiful, like handy, glowing angel of a bride and

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<v Speaker 1>that dress was absolute perfection. It was a dream and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Grace Kelly moment. And that's, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she was going for. And truthfully, like I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have imagined a more perfect moment for her, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's what she should look like, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna close it out with this question for you,

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<v Speaker 3>who in the world of entertainment or pop culture or

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<v Speaker 3>fashion or whatever, has not been a bride yet that

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<v Speaker 3>you're excited to see as a bride one.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, Zendeo. I think she's gonna have a moment of moments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would imagine the train would be Cathedral L.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I mean, you do get the sense with her

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<v Speaker 3>that she really loves it and appreciates going for it,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, she would.

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<v Speaker 1>Write it every turn if you're not doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>it is too much work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lot much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot work. And yes, to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Sanna Miller's ever been a bride yet

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<v Speaker 3>that I know of, but my hair hero forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Always pulled a picture of her recent blonde for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I love her blonde. She's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sienna is our ultimate cool girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimate cool girl. Okay, Well, I hope we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to impart some knowledge wisdom help on everyone who is

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get themselves dressed and as we mentioned, their

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<v Speaker 3>partner's dressed for wedding season coming up. So good luck

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<v Speaker 3>out there. And you know, like Rachel said, don't wear white,

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<v Speaker 3>just don't wear white.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everybody, Okay, everyone, I hope this episode helped answer

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<v Speaker 1>some of your wedding fashion questions or provided you with

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