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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know the death of the labor market has

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Speaker 2: been greatly exaggerated based on recent data, and I think

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Speaker 2: that all in all, the inflation numbers they're pretty respectable.

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Speaker 1: Here, I just want to.

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Speaker 3: Say to your audience, there is not a more hard

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Speaker 3: working president than Donald J.

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Speaker 4: Trump.

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Speaker 3: I witness it with my own two eyes every day

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Speaker 3: that man is working around the cloth.

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Speaker 4: He hardly ever sleeps.

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Speaker 3: He's constantly thinking about not just the problems in our

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Speaker 3: country here, but around this world and how to solve them.

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Speaker 5: President Donald Trump will be on campus later today for

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Speaker 5: the first ever Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit.

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Speaker 4: Ahead of today's.

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Speaker 5: Summit, Republican Senator Dave McCormick mailed a seventy billion dollar

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Speaker 5: investment in AI and energy across Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: This investment will include construction.

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Speaker 5: Of data centers, which require a great deal of energy

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Speaker 5: to power artificial intelligence. One project is set to target

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Speaker 5: Aul Equippa, and the president of our IDC says this

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Speaker 5: investment will bring jobs, boost the economy, and even more.

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Speaker 4: You've said you were four times close to a deal

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Speaker 4: with preaching.

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Speaker 6: I'm good ad to deal.

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Speaker 1: Four times are you, are you done with him?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I know that sounds a simplistic.

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Speaker 8: Thing, but I'm disappointed in him.

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Speaker 9: But I'm not done with him, but I'm disappointed in him.

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Speaker 9: So we have a deal done four times and then

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Speaker 9: you go home and you see it just a tech

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Speaker 9: a nurse.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and Kiev, And so what the hell was that

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Speaker 7: of about?

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Speaker 10: You trustin?

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Speaker 9: I trust almost nobody.

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Speaker 11: And what's the feeling around if Trump will actually release

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Speaker 11: any of these any more information, anymore files this year?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know, we can go with a conventional

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Speaker 12: with him. We can look at the betting markets, and

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Speaker 12: I think that this part of what's going on is

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Speaker 12: that a lot of folks are saying, you know what,

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Speaker 12: He's not going to release anymore files. The Trump administration

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Speaker 12: is not going to release any more files. Get this

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Speaker 12: Trump releasing more Epstein files in twenty twenty five. According

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Speaker 12: to the betting markets, you go two months ago with

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Speaker 12: forty percent, you go a month ago with thirty nine percent.

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Speaker 12: Now it is just twenty one percent. So the magabase

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Speaker 12: is hoping, is hoping that there'll be more files to

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Speaker 12: they nor the betting markets in fact believe there'll be

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Speaker 12: any more files to be released, and that, of course

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Speaker 12: is a problem for Donald Trump based upon what we've

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Speaker 12: seen from the MAGA base over the last twenty four,

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Speaker 12: forty eight and seventy two hours.

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Speaker 13: But what happened today, which is the Dariendustree has now

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Speaker 13: made a commitment to get rid of all dies, with

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Speaker 13: of them are already taking action, some of them already

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Speaker 13: gotten rid of the size we now have with this contribution.

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Speaker 14: With his commitment, we.

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Speaker 13: Now have about forty percent of the food into that's

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Speaker 13: already made that commitment, and thirty five percent of the

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Speaker 11: There needs to be more transparency on this, and I

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Speaker 11: think that that will happen. I mean, look, I don't

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Speaker 11: is something that's important to the President as well. He

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Speaker 11: doesn't want transparency on all these fronts, everything we're talking about,

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Speaker 11: because it's frustrated him as well.

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Speaker 4: He's going to want to set things right as well.

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Speaker 11: So I believe that there will probably be more coming

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Speaker 11: on this and I believe anything that they are able

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Speaker 11: probably try to get out suitor rather than later, because

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Speaker 11: they hear it and they understand it.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully we see.

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Speaker 11: That happen soon in the later and that I guess

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Speaker 11: that would be my advice. But to everybody out there

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Speaker 11: who's all worked up about it, there's no great block

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Speaker 11: to keep this information away that I'm aware of. I

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Speaker 15: Downline, these students every day.

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Speaker 1: Are on the front lines.

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Speaker 15: Being spared, being slandered, being canceled, being kicked out of classes,

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Speaker 15: kicked out of matrinities, kicked out of sororities. These are

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Speaker 1: These are the students that start these chapters. They are

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Speaker 16: In this country.

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Speaker 15: This generation is the most conservative generation that we have

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Speaker 15: seen in well over fifty years. There's something profout happening

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Speaker 15: in this stuffy There's something that is deemed that is

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Speaker 15: larger than what the media is covering. Youth delivered the

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Speaker 15: White House for President Trump.

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Speaker 17: We've been given this gift and now it's on us

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Speaker 17: we have to execute.

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Speaker 16: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 16: coming from every angle, but the will to the sea.

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Speaker 1: Fear not.

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Speaker 16: You found a place for truth, the voice of a

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Speaker 16: generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 16: greatest country in the history of the world. This is

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Speaker 16: the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Fuck a lot here we go at.

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Speaker 15: All right, everybody, Radio stations across the country email us

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Speaker 15: as always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We heard the

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Speaker 15: Bitcoin dot com studio. You know, we had a great

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Speaker 15: show yesterday by all objector measurements. People love the show.

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Speaker 15: We were covering all sorts of different issues. And remember

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Speaker 15: the backdrop. Over the weekend, we had an event that

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Speaker 15: I was doing interviews on epssee I probably talk talk

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Speaker 15: So on Monday morning, I had a lot of other

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Speaker 15: the student Action summit. So yesterday I basically am paraphrasing,

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Speaker 15: I'm going to get down to the essence of it.

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Speaker 15: I said, look, guys, back and forth, possession was grassroots

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Speaker 1: We covered it at this last weekend.

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Speaker 15: And apparently the media who has interestingly not covered the

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Speaker 15: this yesterday. So I'm Yesterdairs, what the heck is going on?

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Speaker 15: So I'm gonna read you exactly what I said. This

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Speaker 15: is a total obsessive hoax. And this shows you exactly

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Speaker 15: those articles, and even some people will email me, Charlie,

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Speaker 15: why are you not talking about Epstein?

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Speaker 1: Why are you saying to move on? I never ever

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Speaker 15: I didn't whisper it, I didn't think it, I didn't

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Speaker 1: Looking at this thing. I said. That's not what I said.

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Speaker 15: I did a special YouTube video about Epstein yesterday about

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Speaker 1: All we said was that we talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 15: Over the weekend, and we're going to focus on other

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Speaker 1: So this is what I said yesterday.

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Speaker 15: Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein. Honestly,

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Speaker 15: I'm done about talking about Epstein for the time being. Nobody,

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Speaker 15: They did not include that second part of the sentence.

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Speaker 15: I'm going to trust my friends of the administration.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna trust Cash Bettel, Dan Bongino, Jade Vance. It's

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Speaker 15: they heard you, they heard me, and they are working.

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Speaker 1: To fix this.

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Speaker 15: Let me finish this, but let me say this again.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And by the way, today we're gonna.

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Speaker 15: Charlie Kirk is moving on. Never was that ever said

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Speaker 15: A no, is that the truth? And guys, they hurt us,

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Speaker 15: The other part of it is like, oh, well, you

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Speaker 15: Trust me, all throughout the digital world. It is enormous

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Speaker 15: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always Freedom at

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Speaker 15: us now is a great friend and a great American

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Speaker 15: is Sean Parnell, Assistant to SECT def for Public Affairs

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Speaker 15: and Sean Parnell, Chief Pentagon spokesman. Sean, you're a great American.

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Speaker 15: Congratulations on all you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Sean.

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Speaker 15: I'm so excs to have you get you on the

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Speaker 15: to try to get clarity on what's happening with the

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Speaker 15: recent news with Russia and Ukraine, and so I just

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Speaker 15: want to give you an uninterrupted opportunity to make the

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for having me, Charlie.

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Speaker 19: It's great to be back on the show after a

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Speaker 19: little hiatus. You know, well, look, the Russia Ukraine conflict

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Speaker 19: has been a central focus for President Trump since he

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Speaker 19: the very first interview where he's had a town hall

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Speaker 19: with Caitlin Collins and she asked him the ambush question

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Speaker 19: of like, do you want Putin to win this war?

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Speaker 19: President Trump responded with something very simple yet also very profound,

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Speaker 19: and he said, I want people to stop dying. What

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Speaker 19: we've seen over the last year hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 19: people dead in this conflict, and a central focus of

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Speaker 19: President Trump's second administration is bringing this war to a

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Speaker 19: peaceful resolution. You heard President Trump from the OVA Office yesterday.

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Speaker 19: Clearly he's frustrated with Vladimir Putin stringing along negotiations. He

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Speaker 19: doesn't seem like he's being serious. And so what we've done,

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Speaker 19: at the Department of Defense and at the President's direction

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Speaker 19: and the sec Def's direction, is provide a framework for

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Speaker 19: munitions that we can send to Ukraine to help them

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Speaker 19: defend themselves while the President pursues peace between Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 18: And that's all we've done.

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Speaker 19: And so we're going to continue to do that and

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Speaker 19: give the President robust options as he pursues the peace.

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Speaker 15: So the skepticism from the audience, I would say on

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Speaker 15: the Russia Ukraine situation is that they do not want

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Speaker 15: to see America embroiled into another quagmire. I actually don't

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Speaker 15: share that concern. I trust the President. I trust you guys.

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Speaker 15: I think he demonstrated with Iran that he has incredible

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Speaker 15: wisdom and prudence to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to navigate this.

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Speaker 15: So I don't share that concern. I do potentially see,

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Speaker 15: you know, in war, you have to enter things with

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Speaker 15: of a sudden, you know, NATO Article five, could I

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Speaker 15: guess get triggered.

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Speaker 1: Also, the audience does not like the idea of giving

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Speaker 1: away money.

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Speaker 15: So is this a purchase agreement? Can you explain that

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Speaker 15: this is a purchase, not a giveaway.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's such a great point.

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Speaker 19: So yeah, I mean, basically, these are weapons made in America,

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Speaker 19: purchased by NATO. So that's that's just what this framework

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Speaker 19: provides for. And to your point about the base and

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Speaker 19: the audience, I completely understand that the skepticism in the

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Speaker 19: fear as someone who fought in Afghanistan for sixteen straight

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Speaker 19: months and to watch Afghanistan surrendered in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 18: It hurts my soul just to think about it.

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Speaker 19: And you look at American foreign policy in the twentieth

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Speaker 19: that has paid off well for America. And especially when

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Speaker 19: what do we have? You ask yourself, what do we

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Speaker 19: have to show for those wars? After being embroiled for

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Speaker 19: over a decade in Afghanistan almost twenty years, we have

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Speaker 19: what do we have to show for it? So the

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Speaker 19: skepticism and the fear from the audience is certainly warranted.

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Speaker 19: But I think you have to think back to what

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Speaker 19: He was a president of peace with the abrahams Abraham

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Speaker 19: Accords in his first term, and he's pursuing a path

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Speaker 19: of peace here in a second. Look at the Whoty

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Speaker 19: operation in the Red Sea, you had a clearly defined

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Speaker 19: with Operation Midnight Hammer, you had a clearly defined mission

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Speaker 19: in an end state. So for President Trump, peace is

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Speaker 19: his focus. But in order to pursue peace and to

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Speaker 19: give yourself the strongest hand available at the negotiating table,

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Speaker 19: you have to be strong. And that is exactly what

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Speaker 19: President Trump is signaling in this Russia Ukraine fight, so

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Speaker 19: that he can set the conditions for peace moving forward.

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Speaker 19: And by the way, I fully trust the President. He

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Speaker 19: has never once violated the trust of this country or

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Speaker 19: the American people. That's why people love this president. When

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Speaker 19: on the promise.

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Speaker 18: When he's in office. And by the way, that's something

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Speaker 18: that has been.

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Speaker 19: Very different from Republicans and democratic administrations in the past.

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Speaker 18: When the president says something, he actually does it and

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Speaker 15: That is correct and that is true. So Sean NATO

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Speaker 15: is purchasing the money. And is it fair to say

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Speaker 15: that this is going to be a europe European led

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Speaker 15: I know that Europe is giving more and more money

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Speaker 15: to NATO, So is it NATO buying the weapons? Will

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Speaker 15: be mainly Germany, So kind of walk us through just

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Speaker 15: a little bit. There might be classified stuff here, but

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Speaker 15: I bet most of this is public kind of the

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Speaker 15: scope of the deal.

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Speaker 19: So first of all, we should give credit work credits

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Speaker 19: step up and spend more on defense between three point

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Speaker 19: five and now five percent. I would also add that

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Speaker 19: four months ago people were saying that it was not possible.

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Speaker 19: that he couldn't get it done. But he did in

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Speaker 19: conjunction with the president. So we have our European allies

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Speaker 19: right now committed to spend more on their defense and

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Speaker 19: part of that deal is buying American weapons from America

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Speaker 19: manufactured in America as part of this framework to help

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Speaker 19: support Ukraine while he pursues peace. And as I understand it,

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Speaker 19: like this deal is very much it's very much in

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Speaker 19: the early stages, right, but you have different NATO countries

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Speaker 19: wholeheartedly on board with committing with giving their resources, financial

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Speaker 19: be weapons into Ukraine and money's back to the US treasury.

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Speaker 19: So again, this is a good deal for the country.

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Speaker 19: It's in keeping with the sectf's national defense strategy of

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Speaker 19: asking for our allies to do more while we can

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Speaker 19: shift our focus to the Endo Pacific where we think

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Speaker 19: it belongs.

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Speaker 15: I love that because it's got it's got to be

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Speaker 15: all eyes on the rise of Chinese, the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 15: Party about their potential you know, military incursion with Taiwan.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, and Charlie, it's the most thing, You're right, it's

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Speaker 19: the most pragmatic thing in the world. Like this is

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Speaker 19: America first, does not mean America alone, and if the

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Speaker 19: threats that we face in this world evolve, and they

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Speaker 19: evolve quickly, and the threats we think, you know, a

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Speaker 19: near peer adversary in China represents a what is a

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Speaker 19: very real threat to America and it's interests.

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Speaker 18: China has said from.

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Speaker 18: And we want to do everything that we can.

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Speaker 19: To stop that and keep America the number one loan

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Speaker 19: superpower in the world because Erica buy and large is

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Speaker 19: a force for good. In order to do that, we

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Speaker 19: shift our focus to the end of Pacific, which is

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Speaker 19: again where we think it belongs.

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Speaker 15: Okay, So Sean, now I want to talk about the

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Speaker 15: one big, beautiful Bill. I want to give you an

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Speaker 15: opportunity to make the case for the increase of defense spending. Obviously,

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Speaker 15: we're behind the president when the beautiful Bill was awesome.

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Speaker 15: But one thing, just like little whispers and murmurs, especially

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Speaker 15: we really need to now go to a trillion dollars

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Speaker 15: on the defense budget. Can you talk about where this

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Speaker 15: how you believe this is necessary to fortify national security.

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean, look the things that we're doing in

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Speaker 19: the Pentagon, he's done more than most secretaries have done

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Speaker 19: in the last four years. The changes that he is

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Speaker 19: making here in the Pentagon will be generational. I mean,

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Speaker 19: he's making the Pentagon. I think our country in the

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Speaker 19: world a better place by some of these changes and

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Speaker 19: removing red tape. So when you look at our overall budget,

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Speaker 19: we need to have a budget that supports that unbelievable change, right,

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Speaker 19: And so we're investing in historic things like F forty seven,

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Speaker 19: a six generation fighter. We're investing in things that have

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Speaker 19: never been done before, with multiple Manhattan projects in Golden

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Speaker 19: Dome for America to protect our homeland. We're talking about

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Speaker 19: we're talking about reinvesting in things or investing in things

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Speaker 19: that that we've never invested in before, Charlie. And so

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Speaker 19: we've got to give the sect F the resources that

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Speaker 19: he needs to accomplish the President's vision, and that's part

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Speaker 19: of the reason why we have the resources that we

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Speaker 19: do in this budget.

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Speaker 15: In closing, here Sean talk about the increase of military recruitment.

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Speaker 15: That is it's one of my favorite things. I told

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Speaker 15: should be talking about this every day, because that right there,

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Speaker 15: it's better than you know, some rest museen poll or

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Speaker 15: some sort of you know, morning console hole. The President

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Speaker 15: has said this to me before as well. Which is

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Speaker 15: the best indicator of national morale, strengthening of the ability

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Speaker 15: to see whether or not people believe in America and

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Speaker 15: they want to serve the country is military recruitment. Remember

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Speaker 15: after nine to eleven, military recruitment went straight up, right.

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Speaker 15: We've seen this at different times in American history, and

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Speaker 15: also in the midst of Vietnam, voluntary military recruitment went down.

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Speaker 15: Voluntary military recruitment started to go down towards.

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Speaker 1: The end of the Iraq War.

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Speaker 15: It also was at record low levels per percentage under

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Speaker 15: Joe Biden, especially after the f guest Afghanistan withdrawal. Where

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Speaker 15: is it now and brag on the success of the

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Speaker 19: So right now I'm co shaaring the Recruiting Task Force

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Speaker 19: here at the Department of Defense force wide. So we

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Speaker 19: could probably do another interview deep dive on all of this,

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Speaker 19: because it's an interesting yet complicated topic.

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Speaker 18: But you are absolutely.

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Speaker 19: Right the proof is in the pudding, and as it

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Speaker 19: pertains to recruiting, leadership matters. So take our let's let's

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Speaker 19: go back a year where President Trump was almost assassinated

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Speaker 19: on that stage in Butler under fire.

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Speaker 18: You don't know, even regard even people that have all

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Speaker 18: to react under under fire.

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Speaker 19: President Trump was almost assassinated on that day, and within

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Speaker 19: looked out to the crowd, looked out to our country,

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Speaker 19: looked out to the world, and said fight, fight, fight defiantly.

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Speaker 19: So you juxtaposed that image with the image of Biden,

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Speaker 19: his predecessor before him, who is an animated corpse, had

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Speaker 19: to be dipped in the Lazarus pit every day. Every

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Speaker 19: day it was less and less affected, hardly an inspiring figure.

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Speaker 18: And by the way, a week.

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Speaker 19: After President Trump was almost assassinated. Biden resigns the presidency

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Speaker 19: in a pdf on social media, which is almost the

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Speaker 19: equivalent of writing, I quit on a napkin at work

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Speaker 19: before you leave. I mean, Biden embodied weakness. President to

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Speaker 19: Trump embodies strength likewise, so too does Secretary Heeg Seth.

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Speaker 19: And when you embody strength, it inspires people to say, hey,

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Speaker 19: I want to serve under that commander in chief. I

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Speaker 19: want to serve under this secretary. Defense and that is

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Speaker 19: the reason why you're recruiting right now has been historic,

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Speaker 19: and I don't think there's gonna.

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Speaker 18: Be any end in sight.

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Speaker 15: Charlie Sean Parnell, great work, Thank you so much. Talk

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Speaker 15: to you soon. You're welcome anytime here, and make sure

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Speaker 15: you keep those recruitment numbers up.

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Speaker 1: It's very important. Thank you so much. JN. Parnell got

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Speaker 15: By the way, she gave me this. I have a

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Speaker 15: all about. Everybody, Email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Okay,

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Speaker 15: so last night we lost a legend, and in fact

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Speaker 15: I want to re air on podcasts then YouTube contemplation

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Speaker 15: a best of our interviews with John MacArthur. John MacArthur

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Speaker 15: passed away last night. John MacArthur's been in out of

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Speaker 15: hospitals and he has been struggling with pneumonia and other

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Speaker 15: health issues.

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Speaker 1: He passed away at the age of eighty four.

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Speaker 15: John MacArthur is, without a doubt, one of the most

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Speaker 15: influential Protestant minds since the Reformation.

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Speaker 1: I would put him top ten. I have an.

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Speaker 15: Entire part of my library wall just dedicated to John

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Speaker 15: MacArthur's biblical commentary. He was one of the most well read,

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Speaker 15: researched wyse and deep thinkers and an unan wavering pastor.

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Speaker 15: I actually never met him in person, and I regret

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Speaker 15: that our schedules never aligned, but we did many zoom

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Speaker 15: calls and phone calls together. So praise the Lord that

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Speaker 15: we are able to do that. John MacArthur goes all

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Speaker 15: the way back to fighting against Gavin Newsom against same

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Speaker 15: sex marriage. He was putting on a clinic against then.

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Speaker 15: I think Mayor Newsom or activist Newsom play cut three

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Speaker 15: twenty eight.

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Speaker 20: I'm a practicing Catholic. I got married in the church

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Speaker 20: two plus years. I don't see what we're doing in

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Speaker 20: terms of advancing the bond of love and monogamy and

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Speaker 20: extending that to families families of same sex in any way,

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Speaker 20: shape or form, takes away anything from the Church or

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Speaker 20: the sanctity of the union that my wife and I have.

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Speaker 21: I would just like to ask the mayors of pregnacy

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Speaker 21: Catholic do you believe the Bible is the Word of God.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, Pastor, I'm not going to get in a

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Speaker 21: A theological debate. That was just a straight question. Do

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Speaker 21: you believe the Bible is the authoritative word of God?

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Speaker 10: I with respect, I guess I do.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 21: Then the Bible says when God created man, he said,

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Speaker 21: one man, one woman, cleave together for life. That's a family.

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Speaker 21: Jesus in the New Testament reaffirms that. All the writers

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Speaker 15: The clip actually keeps on getting better. Let's try to

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Speaker 15: get the full one at another time. But here's why

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Speaker 15: John MacArthur will go down as a legend in my book.

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Speaker 1: It's not his books, it's not.

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Speaker 15: All his commentary, it's not even as sermons. And that

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Speaker 1: It's because.

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Speaker 15: When it mattered most, when churches were closing, and they

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Speaker 15: were taking Easter and Pentecost, and the entire Californian government

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Speaker 15: was coming down on churches, and most bent to knee

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Speaker 15: and they refused to open. Of course, my pastor and

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Speaker 15: dear friend Rob McCoy did not John MacArthur, and all

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Speaker 15: eyes of the nation were on John MacArthur. All pastors

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Speaker 15: were watching his see what is John MacArthur going to do?

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Speaker 15: And he openly defied the California government.

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Speaker 1: He rejected the lockdowns.

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Speaker 15: And John MacArthur did something that is one of the

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Speaker 15: Christian walk is he finished well. He never bowed to

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Speaker 15: the gods of this age. He never apologized for scripture.

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Speaker 15: He was a fighter through and through. And the last

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Speaker 15: chapter of John MacArthur's legendary career from fighting homosexual marriage,

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Speaker 1: The final part of his chapter.

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Speaker 15: Was will you resist government tyranny or will you submit

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Speaker 15: to the will of God?

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Speaker 1: And he crushed it and he aced it tragically.

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Speaker 15: So many other Christian pastors, and I will not say

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Speaker 15: list of guys men that were good, that were strong,

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Speaker 15: and they became weak during COVID and woke John MacArthur,

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Speaker 15: though fully embodied two Timothy four seven. I have fought

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Speaker 15: the good fight. I have finished the race, and I

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Speaker 15: have kept the faith. John MacArthur and I have something

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Speaker 15: in common. We're both Scots. We don't like being told

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Speaker 15: what to do. We're lovers of liberty, lovers of freedom,

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Speaker 15: lovers of America. John MacArthur is now in heaven with

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Speaker 15: our Lord and we will continue the fight that he started.

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Speaker 15: And as you hear those bagpipes, those are for you,

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Speaker 15: John MacArthur, because as a fellow scotsmen, we keep on

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Speaker 15: fighting for Jesus and fighting for what's right.

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Speaker 1: Second, now we're coming up.

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Speaker 10: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 10: Terrence Bads. President Trump is set to take the stage

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Speaker 10: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in about an hour and a half.

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Speaker 10: Is the featured speaker at Senator Dave McCormick's inaugural Energy

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Speaker 10: and Innovation event. The Summit is Built is bringing together

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Speaker 10: the top names and energy and artificial intelligence. McCormick says,

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Speaker 10: today's event is about showcasing Pennsylvania's incredible potential to power

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Speaker 10: the AI revolution. Real America's Voice correspondent Michelle Backus is

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Speaker 10: at Carnegie Mellon University where the event is set to

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Speaker 10: get under way. Hearers already underway. President Trumps set to

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Speaker 10: arrive shortly. Michelle, Good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 22: Hey, good afternoon, Terrance. This is so of breaking news.

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Speaker 22: But when we arrived here this morning, we thought that

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Speaker 22: it was roughly seventy billion dollars worth of investment. Senator McCornick,

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Speaker 22: mcclorwik coming out and announcing it's now actually ninety billion

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Speaker 22: dollars worth of investment here in the Keystone State. That

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Speaker 22: is breaking records. And this is going to be monumental

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Speaker 22: for Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 10: And the huge thing is bringing all of these leaders

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Speaker 10: together and being able to, as I said, to showcase

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Speaker 10: what Pennsylvania has to offer in terms of attracting some

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Speaker 10: of these leaders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Terrence.

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Speaker 22: We're looking at over sixty major CEOs coming here to

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Speaker 22: Pittsburgh today to be part of this sum and of

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Speaker 22: course Larry Fink from Blackrock. You also have the CEO

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Speaker 22: of ex On Mobile Meta as well Google or Alphabet

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Speaker 22: as it's now formerly called, multiple CEOs focusing in on

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Speaker 22: Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh let alone, Pennsylvania a great place to invest.

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Speaker 22: Think about it, where these second largest person with the

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Speaker 22: state here with natural resources behind Texas. We're also third

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Speaker 22: in coal mining, have a great infrastructure, tons of land

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Speaker 22: in order to build these data centers that are ultimately

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Speaker 22: going to fuel the AI revolution.

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Speaker 4: And if you think back, we were the steel town.

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Speaker 22: We made our economic drivers through steel that obviously subsided

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Speaker 22: in the mid nineteen seventies. But now there's a new

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Speaker 22: industrial revolution. It's a great opportunity for Pennsylvania to get

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Speaker 22: ahead of the curve and be part of it as

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Speaker 22: we look into AI in the future.

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Speaker 10: Michelle, I'm smiling because you say we it is your hometown,

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Speaker 10: and so you're giving your hometown an extra big up here.

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Speaker 10: One of the things I find interesting artificial intelligence and

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Speaker 10: the tech sector. That's what's like to be going to

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Speaker 10: get all the headlines. But this conference is also about energy,

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Speaker 10: which is something that President Trump has talked about on

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Speaker 10: the campaign trail and even early in his administration, saying

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Speaker 10: that he wants to make the United States energy dominant again.

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Speaker 10: And so that's part of what I expect he'll probably talk.

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Speaker 14: About this afternoon.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Terrence, it's really about America first, economics and bringing

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Speaker 22: energy home, bringing economics back into our states rather than

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Speaker 22: fueld amount to other countries that ultimately hate US.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking.

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Speaker 22: At a great position here in Pennsylvania where we.

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Speaker 4: Have the abundant natural resources.

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Speaker 22: It's time we utilize them here rather than shell out

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Speaker 22: money to other countries.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're looking at promises made, promises kept.

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Speaker 22: This was a big promise, especially for Pennsylvania's on the

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Speaker 22: campaign trail when Trump came and visited. Now he's holding

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Speaker 22: true to that, especially with this ninety billion dollar investment.

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Speaker 22: This is also going to create thousands of jobs and

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Speaker 22: again position Pittsburgh as well as Pennsylvania in a great

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Speaker 22: place moving forward. So I'm even calling it the potential

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Speaker 22: Silicon Valley of the East Coast. Of course, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 22: I'm very proud as a Pittsburgh native to see industry

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Speaker 22: coming back to this beautiful state and ultimately this city.

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Speaker 4: So it's really exciting, especially for all the locals here.

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Speaker 10: And these investments that you talked about. It's not just

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Speaker 10: domestic investment. I was listening to Senator McCormick earlier today

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Speaker 10: and he was saying that there are even some executives

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Speaker 10: from the United Arabs on hand, and he's looking for

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Speaker 10: potential investment from them as well. So I would imagine

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Speaker 10: there are other CEOs and other companies from outside the

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Speaker 10: US borders who potentially are looking at Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania

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Speaker 10: as a whole.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it's really profound to see as you are seeing

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Speaker 22: these foreign companies and these sporgers and CEOs come in

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Speaker 22: today and talk about investing in Pittsburgh and in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 22: as well. Again, we have the resources in this country.

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Speaker 22: It's time to put our foot down and stop exporting

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Speaker 22: them to other countries instead of producing here. Again, it

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Speaker 22: goes back to America first economics, and it's a campaign

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Speaker 22: promise that Trump had talked about all throughout the campaign.

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Speaker 4: Now he's holding true to it.

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Speaker 22: We're getting economics, We're getting industries back here into the

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Speaker 22: United States, and there's really no better place, in my opinion,

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Speaker 22: for that to start than Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Many workers who

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Speaker 22: are in the steel industry now looking for new jobs.

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Speaker 22: And as we continue with this new wave of industrial revolution,

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Speaker 22: we're looking at technology, We're looking at AI and you

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Speaker 22: also have to think the amount of abundant land we

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Speaker 22: have in Pennsylvania need data centers to be able to

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Speaker 22: fuel this AI revolution, and that's what we're also looking

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Speaker 22: like here in the state.

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Speaker 10: Michelle Back is reporting to us from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 15: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always Freedom at

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Speaker 15: Charliekirk dot com. And we are here in the Bitcoin

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Speaker 15: dot Com studio, that is the Bitcoin dot com studio.

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Speaker 1: As we have said prior.

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Speaker 15: In our one, it is time for us to try

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Speaker 15: to put a path forward. Let's try to try try

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Speaker 15: to figure out a path forward of a way that

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Speaker 15: this administration might solve what is happening with the Epstein situation.

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Speaker 15: Joining us now is Mark Kapudo, reporter for Axios, that

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Speaker 15: is Axios dot Com. Axios has been covering this story

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Speaker 15: throughout all of its different elements. So Mark, it's great

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Speaker 15: to see you so Mark on this program. Obviously, I

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Speaker 15: said a lot of my friends are in the administration,

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Speaker 15: but we've really never seen grassroots anger like this. We

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Speaker 15: want the administration to succeed. We want to we want

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Speaker 15: to see on this program this thing rectified, and we

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Speaker 15: want the truth to come out. Mark, what does your

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Speaker 15: reporting show? And then please walk us through your excellent piece.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure how much truth can actually come out.

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Speaker 6: We can discuss that in depth. It's very difficult and

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Speaker 6: complicated to explain legal process. People are expecting a lot

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Speaker 6: more than would be available under any administration. But for now,

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump has basically said he's done with us and

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Speaker 6: he's moving on, and the DOJ memo that got released

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Speaker 6: last Sunday, speaking to such is going.

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Speaker 7: To control now.

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Speaker 6: Obviously the blowback has been so severe and so serious

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Speaker 6: that White House advisors, Trump advisors, both in the administration

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Speaker 6: outside of the administration, are talking about different ideas if

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Speaker 6: they do decide to do a course correction. Now obviously

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Speaker 6: they're not going to call it a course correction. And

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Speaker 6: there's basically three ideas here as you have on the screen.

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Speaker 6: Idea Number one is have some sort of special council,

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Speaker 6: some sort of special prosecutor or a team a special

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Speaker 6: master to review the case from top to bottom, or

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Speaker 6: to review the criminal elements of it from top to

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Speaker 6: bottom to make sure it was prosecuted properly. And that

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Speaker 6: helps get around Trump's discussion or statement that he's sort of.

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Speaker 7: Done with this. There are still things to examine here,

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Speaker 7: so that's number one.

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Speaker 6: Number two is unredact those things that have been redacted.

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Speaker 6: There is on the FBI website something called the Vault.

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Speaker 6: You can read a number of Jeffrey Epstein documents there.

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Speaker 6: Many are redacted. There are other documents that happened and

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Speaker 6: uploaded that because it was just a massive investigation, a

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Speaker 6: series of investigations over time. And the number three is

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Speaker 6: courts have sealed various records in both criminal case and

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Speaker 6: in some of the civil case. Is petition the courts

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Speaker 6: to unseal those and this would bring more transparency and

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Speaker 6: more stuff to light.

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Speaker 7: Now there's a lot of caveats here.

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Speaker 6: Mike Davis with the Article three project has been very

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Speaker 6: forceful about this on Twitter, and he's right. Which is

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Speaker 6: grand jury testimony which and there is grand jury documentation

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Speaker 6: that has not been released is kept secret for a reason.

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Speaker 7: There are people.

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Speaker 6: Who are accused in these closed door proceedings of various things.

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Speaker 6: There's evidence that's brought against them, but in a grand

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Speaker 6: jury it's not rebutted evidence. That is, you don't have

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Speaker 6: the defense counsel saying, wait a minute, what you're showing

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Speaker 6: here is not true. It can be rebutted, it can

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Speaker 6: be explained, it can be expanded or whatnot that's not

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Speaker 6: in there. So if you just wind up releasing grand

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Speaker 6: jury testimony, for instance, you could really come up with

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Speaker 6: a warp sense of who is guilty and who isn't.

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Speaker 6: And that sort of controls in understanding how the Department

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Speaker 6: of Justice got to the situation and more broadly is

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Speaker 6: the Justice Department since forever has never really disclosed and

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Speaker 6: does not like to disclose, and understandably doesn't disclose information

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Speaker 6: about potential suspects unless it's ready to indict. One of

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Speaker 6: the reasons you'll read it say, in an indictment of

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Speaker 6: a conspiracy, if they're indicting Mark Capudo at Axios for

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Speaker 6: some sort of crime, and if one of my co

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Speaker 6: conspirators is Charlie Kirk but he hasn't been charged yet,

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Speaker 6: they'll just call you co conspirator one. They're not going

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Speaker 6: to say Charlie Kirk until they're ready to indict. And

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Speaker 6: the reason for that again is you don't want to

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Speaker 6: accuse people before they're charged, and then once they're charged,

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Speaker 6: they're still innocent until proven guilty in the court of

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Speaker 6: public opinion. When you just start releasing all of this documentation,

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Speaker 6: you don't have that careful, controlled process by which the

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Speaker 6: truth can be arrived at through our legal system.

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Speaker 15: Look, but we have to start to see some credible

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Speaker 15: information to come up credible information. So the first question

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Speaker 15: I have from your reporting, why is it that has

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Speaker 15: not been for nine days now not a singular press conference.

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Speaker 15: I mean, Caroline Levitt tried her best. And then also, Mark,

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Speaker 15: why is it that a lot of your colleagues in

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Speaker 15: the Washington Press Corps have not asked the president about

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Speaker 15: this for nearly a week and a half.

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Speaker 6: I think there was some question that was done outside

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Speaker 6: of Air Force One, but I had I been there,

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Speaker 6: I would certainly ask a little more about it. But

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump certainly doesn't want to talk about as for

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Speaker 6: whether Pam bondy, and to a degree, the deputy DOJ,

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Speaker 6: Deputy Attorney General Todd blanch who's in charge of the

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Speaker 6: criminal Division, whether they wind up talking to the press,

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Speaker 6: perhaps you a podcast is probably a preferred forum to

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Speaker 6: discuss the case. I think that's still an open question.

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Speaker 6: But for now, the administration is following the lead as

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Speaker 6: it does and as its structured to do of the president.

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Speaker 6: President Trump doesn't want to really talk about this. He

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Speaker 6: wants to move on, and so the official position now

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Speaker 6: of themistration is we've said what we've said, and until

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Speaker 6: the President decides to sort of uncork the bottle or

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Speaker 6: decide to do more, we're not going to do more.

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Speaker 15: Right just to one point here, though, I have to

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Speaker 15: elaborate a little bit further, though, I know you said

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Speaker 15: the President doesn't want to talk about it, But since

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Speaker 15: one is the Washington Press Corps not asked questions about

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Speaker 15: stuff Trump doesn't want to.

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Speaker 7: Talk about, That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Again, colleagues you, I'm not blaming you, but I am curious.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming you.

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Speaker 15: Help the audience understand why your colleagues in the media

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Speaker 15: are so uninterested in this. I just think there is

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Speaker 15: some interesting not a single question, I mean there was.

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Speaker 15: There was sixty five questions asked of President Trump in

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Speaker 15: a week and a half and so from us in

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Speaker 15: the grassroots. The reason this is important is that if

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Speaker 15: he's not hearing from it from the Washington Press Corps,

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Speaker 15: then he's like, oh, okay, it's not as big of

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Speaker 15: a deal. So it's a little strange that the Washington

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Speaker 15: Press Corps is not asking questions about it. Don't maybe

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Speaker 15: I'm I don't quite. They're only covering one element of it.

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Speaker 15: They're covering the well. You know, Maga is upset about this.

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Speaker 15: Is it that maybe they're intimidated by President Trump?

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Speaker 6: I'd say there's a number of factors. One, yes, he

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Speaker 6: can be scary for people to ask questions of. And

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Speaker 6: some people don't necessarily do a very good job asking.

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Speaker 7: The question of that. I'm not going to name names.

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Speaker 6: Two, there is the overall perception in the mainstream media.

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Speaker 7: That the reality is.

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Speaker 6: The reason that sort of the online MAGA base and

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Speaker 6: a number of people who might not even be Trump

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Speaker 6: voters think there's so much more here is that they

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Speaker 6: were spun up by conspiracy theories that wind up either

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Speaker 6: being untrue or unproducible or unverifiable. So there's no point

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Speaker 6: asking I, however, am in your boat here that I

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Speaker 6: think more questions should be asked about what the president

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Speaker 6: is thinking and why he arrived at this idea. There

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Speaker 6: is that notable Fox interview that resurfaced recently where he

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Speaker 6: was asked about disclosing these records, and his response I

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Speaker 6: thought was kind of telling and not enough people I

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Speaker 6: think it paid attention to it, which is he had

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Speaker 6: mentioned that and I'm.

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Speaker 7: Sort of paraphrasing here.

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Speaker 6: The reason he doesn't want to disclose those records is, quote,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of phony stuff in there, and this

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Speaker 6: stuff he doesn't want to get out. And I think

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump understands that because he was friends with Epstein

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Speaker 6: for a period of time, He's going to be mentioned

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Speaker 6: in there now. Julie Brown, who is the Miami Herald

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Speaker 6: reporter who really was the one responsible for exposing the

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Speaker 6: justice in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. She has said she

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Speaker 6: has not really heard that Donald Trump is a major

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Speaker 6: player there. However, Trump is aware that once these documents

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Speaker 6: get released, you're gonna get those headlines. But there are

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Speaker 6: also just other people are going to be collateral damage.

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Speaker 6: And that's just a controlling concern of his. That's something

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Speaker 6: I would like to ask him more about, and I'd

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Speaker 6: like to hear more from him. Sure, and yeah, sure

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Speaker 6: if I have an opportunity. You know, you talk to

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Speaker 6: Trump all the time. If he wants to sit down

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Speaker 6: with an interview with me or discuss it, I would

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Speaker 6: be more than happy to do it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 15: Mark, I do want to keep you from another segment, though,

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Speaker 15: I want to just narrow in more on the move

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Speaker 15: of the unseiling of the Department of Justice grand jury

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Speaker 15: testimony and whether or not you're saying it's very rare. However,

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Speaker 15: I do think this is a rare case, and I

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Speaker 15: understand that it's without cross examination. But the American people,

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Speaker 15: especially the base that watches this audience, is overwhelmingly interested

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Speaker 15: as they should be in this story. And so thank

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Speaker 15: you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 15: Kirkshow podcast page. We have Mark Capudo from Axios. Three

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Speaker 15: ways that Trump might be able to solve the Epstein

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Speaker 15: Caputo is with us from Axios. Three ways that Trump

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Speaker 15: might be able to diffuse the Epstein situation.

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Speaker 1: So Mark, just really quick, is it?

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Speaker 14: Is it?

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Speaker 1: It's rare? But is it possible?

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Speaker 15: Is the word I'm looking for to unseal the Grandeury testimony.

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Speaker 7: I think it's possible. But if it's unsealed. I cannot

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Speaker 7: see how there.

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Speaker 6: Would not be the redactions in it that would make

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Speaker 6: people happy. I'm ultimately part of the problem that the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration has here is this is an article of

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Speaker 6: faith by a number of people that there's an evil

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Speaker 6: cabal of corrupt princes that rule this world and get

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Speaker 6: away with crimes against children in humanity, and the Epstein

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Speaker 6: case is a perfect example. And so if everything were

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Speaker 6: to somehow come out, that would probably not be enough.

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Speaker 7: For some people. But I'm not making a false choice here.

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Speaker 6: The reality is there's a space between what was released

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Speaker 6: on Sunday and what has been.

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Speaker 7: Released so far and what can be released.

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Speaker 6: So putting on my sort of thinking cap and listening

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Speaker 6: to what folks in and out of the administration have

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Speaker 6: said about these three sort of different ideas to bring

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Speaker 6: more transparency to one of the ideas, the leading one

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Speaker 6: is to have that special master, a special prosecutor special

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Speaker 6: counsel to review the case and participate in sort of

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Speaker 6: unredacting various documents and documentation. And I think there you

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Speaker 6: could wind up with grand jury information disclosed, but it

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Speaker 6: would be so exceedingly rare, and it would take quite

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Speaker 6: an act by the President and by the government, by

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Speaker 6: the Department of.

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Speaker 7: Justice to decide to stick by that.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to say never, say never, but there's

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Speaker 6: just such institutional resistance in DOJ regardless of who is there,

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Speaker 6: and partly understandably so. But to your point, this has reached,

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Speaker 6: at least online a crisis point for the administration to

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Speaker 6: respond to. And there is a contrast to be drawn

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Speaker 6: between the way the administration is handling the Epstein case

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Speaker 6: and the way it's handling.

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Speaker 7: The disclosure of the JFK.

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Speaker 6: JFK was murdered sixty two years ago, and we're still

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Speaker 6: receiving documentation now and more evidence, in part because the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration is demanded that the United States government finally

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Speaker 6: make good on the nineteen ninety two JFK Records Act

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Speaker 6: and disclose everything. And we're still learning new stuff. And

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Speaker 6: one of the reasons that's a good idea is that

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Speaker 6: when you have information vacuums, false conspiracy theories easily fill it.

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Speaker 6: And in the absence of more information, I don't think

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Speaker 6: a lot of people are going to be satisfied with

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Speaker 6: the answers or lack thereof that they've.

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Speaker 7: Gotten so far.

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Speaker 15: So what are the other two ideas then that you

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Speaker 15: would propose to be able to proceed.

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Speaker 7: Here, Well, I wouldn't propose.

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Speaker 6: I just in my reporting what they're discussing, it's understandable

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Speaker 6: and it's rational. Which is this special master to not

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Speaker 6: only help disclose records and to issue a final report

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Speaker 6: and to re examine the case, but also to redact

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Speaker 6: those records that are unredact those records that have so

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Speaker 6: far been released. Some of that can be done relatively easily.

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Speaker 6: The government, regardless of agency and administration, always has a

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Speaker 6: tendency to over redact things and then lastly to petition

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Speaker 6: the courts to release those things that can be released

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Speaker 6: without harming victims and innocent people who happen to be

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Speaker 6: accused of wrongdoing or just happen to be in the

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Speaker 6: wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 15: So the final point I suppose here is that it

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Speaker 15: is is it your reporting and your contention that the

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Speaker 15: current information that the Department of Justice has they cannot

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Speaker 15: release or they will not release, And what is the

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Speaker 15: reason your reporting bears out as to why they cannot

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Speaker 15: or will not release what they all the information gathered

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Speaker 15: currently at the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of cannot release and will

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Speaker 6: not release.

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Speaker 7: That is, they are sort of they are still bound.

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Speaker 6: The Department of Justice is a group of attorneys, and

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Speaker 6: they're they're bound by their oath to the court and

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Speaker 6: the US legal cism and the US legal system. To

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Speaker 6: put a charitably frowns ondisclosing things like grand jury testimony

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Speaker 6: for the reasons previously stated.

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Speaker 7: But where there's a will, there's a way.

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Speaker 6: And if President Trump determines that this stuff needs to

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Speaker 6: be done, I assume that it's gonna get done in

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Speaker 6: a relatively short period of time, but it's going to

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Speaker 6: take a while.

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Speaker 1: Mark. Thank you for your time Axios dot com. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you, thank you. Thanks.

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Speaker 15: Email us Freedom at charliekirk dot com and subscribe to

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Speaker 15: the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page.

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Speaker 1: You guys. Coming up next is Mike Benz.

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Speaker 15: We're going to keep on diving into this and examining

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Speaker 15: it from all angles again. When you guys subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Kirkshow podcast page. I think Mark's.

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Speaker 15: Reporting was very good on this, but I'm of the

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Speaker 15: opinion you got to move to unc the DOJ. The

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Speaker 15: DJ has got to moved on sealed the grandjury testimony.

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Speaker 15: You got to figure it out. We need to have

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Speaker 15: movement on this that, amongst many other ideas, when there

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Speaker 15: is a will, there is a way. And Mike Ben's

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Speaker 15: is gonna help examine all of this because, as I've

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Speaker 15: been communicating to those in the administration, the grassroots energy

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Speaker 15: on this is extreme and that was demonstrated our event

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Speaker 15: in Tampa over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Mike Ben's next, Welcome back to.

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Speaker 10: This Real America's Voice News Break. I'm Terrence Bates. President

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Speaker 10: Trump is set to take the stage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 10: in about an hour or so as the featured speaker

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Speaker 10: at the Inaugural Event, or the Inaugural Energy and Innovation Event.

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Speaker 10: It's hosted by Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania, and the

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Speaker 10: summit is built as bringing together the top names and

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Speaker 10: energy and artificial intelligence. McCormick says today's event is about

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Speaker 10: showcasing Pennsylvania's incredible potential to power the AI revolution.

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Speaker 8: so many. Our Commonwealth is poised to lead the next

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Speaker 8: era of growth and opportunity.

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Speaker 10: The Senator serves on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee.

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Speaker 10: He's pushing to bring more energy and development jobs, specifically

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Speaker 10: to Pittsburgh. In fact, just last month, along with his

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Speaker 10: Pennsylvania colleague, Democrat John Fetterman, McCormick introduced a bill to

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Speaker 10: move the Department of Energy's Office of Fossil Energy and

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Speaker 10: Carbon Management to Pittsburgh. We, of course, will have live

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Speaker 10: coverage of President Trump's remarks right here on Real America's

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Speaker 10: Voice the moment he touches down and takes the podium,

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Speaker 10: Stay tuned for that. While the President's focus is on

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Speaker 10: America first, he also has one eye on the ongoing

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Speaker 10: war between Russia and Ukraine. Meeting with NATO's Secretary General

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Speaker 10: at the White House on Monday, the Commander in Chief

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Speaker 10: making it clear that his patience with Vladimir Putin is

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Speaker 10: running short.

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Speaker 9: We are very unhappy, I am with the Russia, but

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Speaker 9: we'll discuss that maybe a different day. But we're very,

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Speaker 9: very unhappy with him, and we're going to be doing

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Speaker 9: very severe tariffs if we don't have a deal.

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Speaker 14: In fifty days.

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Speaker 9: A tariff said about one hundred percent, to call him

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Speaker 9: secondary tariffs.

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Speaker 10: You know what that means. The President also striking a

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Speaker 10: deal with NATO and Ukraine to send weapons to the

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Speaker 10: war zone. The key is that the United States will

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Speaker 10: only manufacture the heavy artillery, NATO will pay for it

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Speaker 10: and get it into the proper hands. That's a quick

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Speaker 10: chuck of your headlines. As always, we appreciate having you

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Speaker 10: along for the ride. I'm Terrence Bates. Now let's get

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Speaker 10: you back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 16: Curly treatment from Socialism Saves Lives.

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Speaker 1: That Charlie Kirkshow is back. Okay, everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 15: Email us as always, freedom at Charliekirk dot com and

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Speaker 15: subscribe to our podcast. I want to get there's some

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Speaker 15: breaking news here. President Trump mentioned. Got a couple questions

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Speaker 15: on Epstein. I do want to play those here because

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Speaker 15: we have Mike Ben's as well. But first, Hillsdale College History, economics,

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Speaker 15: Usto is Mike Ben's. Mike does a wonderful job. Mike,

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Speaker 15: thank you for taking the time. So Mike, I want

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Speaker 15: to keep our conversation very focused on what can be done.

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Speaker 15: A separate time, we could talk about all the unanswered questions,

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Speaker 15: of which there are aplenty, and the messaging fumble and

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Speaker 15: all of that. If if you were advising the President

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Speaker 15: the United States, if President Donald Trump called you up

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Speaker 15: and said, Mike, what should I do that is reasonable?

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Speaker 15: What would you tell him to do?

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Speaker 23: I would tell him to have Pambondy walk down the

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Speaker 23: hallway at main Justice to the Office of Professional Responsibility

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Speaker 23: OPR and pull all files related to the November twenty

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Speaker 23: twenty OPR report that evaluated Jeffrey Epstein's two thousand and

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Speaker 23: eight plea deal. In the process of that OPR investigation,

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Speaker 23: they interviewed everyone at Justice who was involved in that

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Speaker 23: two thousand and eight plea deal Jeffrey Epstein, and sought

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Speaker 23: to put the story to bed by collecting transcribed interviews, audio,

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Speaker 23: and basically reams of files. The report itself took nine

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Speaker 23: months to produce. It's three hundred and forty eight pages long,

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Speaker 23: but it leaves out the critical information that's necessary for

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Speaker 23: both the public and the current Justice Department to understand

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Speaker 23: the Epstein issue. In particular, they interviewed Alex Acosta, the

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Speaker 23: main Justice Department official who gave Jeffrey Epstein the sweetheart

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Speaker 23: plea deal about Epstein's intelligence ties. They have a one

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Speaker 23: line summary for that conversation buried in a footnote on

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Speaker 23: footnote two hundred and forty four. Pull that transcript from

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Speaker 23: DOJOPR and Alex Acosta and make that transcript public so

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Speaker 23: we know exactly what the Justice Department asked about Epstein's

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Speaker 23: intelligence ties and exactly what Acosta, who cut the plea

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Speaker 23: deal said.

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Speaker 15: Okay, so let's let me just repeat that. So this

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Speaker 15: was an OPR Office of what again, Professional Responsibility, postal responsibility,

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Speaker 15: internal report on Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 23: Well, they produced it for the public. This was so

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Speaker 23: here's a history of this. The second indictment for Jeffrey

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Speaker 23: Epstein happened after a I believe it was. The Miami

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Speaker 23: Herald published a kind of blockbuster series in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 23: about the contents of the secret plea deal that the

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Speaker 23: Justice Department cut, the fact that it had been it

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Speaker 23: had been offered before the Justice Department even reviewed key

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Speaker 23: evidence that victims were not included in the talks about

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Speaker 23: the plea deal, that it had been hijacked from the FBI,

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Speaker 23: had been stopped from pursuing prosecution. That creates a big scandal,

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Speaker 23: and in February twenty nineteen. In February twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 23: Justice Department announces that it's going to be conducting this

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Speaker 23: basically special review, this Office of Professional Responsibility review of

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Speaker 23: the Epstein plea deal, in response to the giant outrage

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Speaker 23: over the Miami Herald series. Now five months later, Jeffrey

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Speaker 23: Epstein in July twenty nineteen gets arrested.

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Speaker 14: On July six, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 23: Three days later, Vicky Ward publishes an article saying, alex

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Speaker 23: Acosta said that Jeffrey Epstein belonged to intelligence and that's

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Speaker 23: why he cut him the plea deal, and.

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Speaker 14: He was told the back off.

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Speaker 1: So here's my question.

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Speaker 15: So are you saying that there are transcripts that could

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Speaker 15: get released that were the underlying supportive material of this

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Speaker 15: OPR report?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, got it.

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Speaker 15: So you want the raw data underneath the OPR report. Essentially,

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Speaker 15: that's that's the thrust of your focus. If the president

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Speaker 15: was asking, hey, what do I do?

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Speaker 23: Yes, because the meta question that hangs over this whole

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Speaker 23: thing is did is it true? Did he get the

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Speaker 23: plea deal because he quote belonged to intelligence and if

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Speaker 23: that's true, we that's that's the question that just has

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Speaker 23: to be answered, or at least has to be attempted

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Speaker 23: to be answered, because that's that's really the great speculation

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Speaker 23: that you can't answer fully without some sort of confirmation

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Speaker 23: or at least boxes being checked now now in that process,

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Speaker 23: by the way, Charlie OPR works with the CIA Office

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Speaker 23: of General Counsel. The Office of General Counsel is who

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Speaker 23: coordinates with the the Justice Department OPR whenever there's anything

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Speaker 23: sensitive or relating to classified or confidential information. Oftentimes the

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Speaker 23: you know, DJ and CIA will work together on on

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Speaker 23: any sort of classified element. And I would like to know,

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Speaker 23: for example, I think the public has a right to

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Speaker 23: know in the production of this November twenty twenty report,

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Speaker 23: because it's so strange the way it's put together. It

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Speaker 23: was supposed to put the intelligence issue to bed, and

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Speaker 23: they buried it in one line on page one hundred

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Speaker 23: and sixty nine.

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Speaker 15: OK, let's tip into that. So this is a big

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Speaker 15: part of this. So the question is was Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 15: an intelligence asset? And some people are saying that he

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Speaker 15: was an intelligence asset of Massad. I do have to

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Speaker 15: read this and I want your response. This is from

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Speaker 15: Naftali benefit Bennett, former Israel Israeli Prime Minister. He says,

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Speaker 15: yesterday quote as for Israeli Prime minister, with the Massad

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Speaker 15: having reported directly to me, I can say with you

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Speaker 15: one hundred percent certainty quote. The accusation that Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 15: somehow worked for Israel or the Masad running a blackmail

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Speaker 15: ring is categorically and totally false. Epstein's conduct, both the

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Speaker 15: criminal and merely despicable, had nothing whatsoever to do with

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Speaker 15: Massad or the State of Israel. Epstein never worked for

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Speaker 15: the Massad. This accusation is a live being peddled by

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Speaker 15: He mentions Tucker Carlston by name, who's a friend of mine.

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Speaker 15: But he just mentioned him, and they just make things up,

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Speaker 15: say with confidence and lies. This is vicious lies. We

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Speaker 15: will not take it anymore. It's a pretty strong and

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Speaker 15: this is an X that is a pretty strong let's

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Speaker 15: say response. So, rebuttal, do you believe that? Mike pretty

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Speaker 15: strong denial?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that?

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Speaker 15: Or number one number two could Jeffrey Epstein been m

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Speaker 15: I six Central Intelligence Sawdy Intelligence, Mike benz Well.

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Speaker 23: I when I hear that, I hear the same sort

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Speaker 23: of carefully worded statement that I hear from the CIA side.

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Speaker 23: I don't believe that Jeffrey Epstein his intelligence aspects were

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Speaker 23: primarily around blackmail. I was never I've never been really

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Speaker 23: interested in the blackmail side of that.

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Speaker 14: Of this.

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Speaker 23: He's a he was a financier, he was a financial

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Speaker 23: fixer the SEI. I can name ten examples of what

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Speaker 23: do you c I.

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Speaker 15: What do you mean a financial fixer? Because obviously he

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Speaker 15: didn't make his money. I mean he didn't earn it

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Speaker 15: through trades or by market brilliance. So what do you

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Speaker 15: mean by that?

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Speaker 14: Look?

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Speaker 23: Think about figures like Mark Rich and Bruce Rapaport. These

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Speaker 23: are people who who work with US intelligence as well

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Speaker 23: as Israeli intelligence as well as an intelligence agencies across

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Speaker 23: the Five Eyes and across the sort of old Safari

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Speaker 23: Club from the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 14: These are figures.

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Speaker 23: Who have access to huge amounts of capital and when

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Speaker 23: the when the CIA wants to do something but off

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Speaker 23: books in terms of transaction, or the State Department wants

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Speaker 23: a pipeline done in the Middle East, but they need security,

1521
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 23: they need guarantees or buying from a couple of different

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01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 23: governments and were arms brokers. I mean this is like,

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Speaker 23: this is like the odd Non Koshogi story. For example, right,

1524
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 23: odd non Koshogi. Jeffrey Epstein personally bragged that odd Nan

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 23: Kashogi was one of his top clients in nineteen eighty seven. Well,

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Speaker 23: what was Adnan Koshoki doing in nineteen eighty seven? Adan

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Speaker 23: Kashogi was the middleman between the US and Israel on

1528
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 23: Iran contrary, it was odd On Koshogi when he flew

1529
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 23: to the White House. He was a snowt On Koshogi

1530
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,839
Speaker 23: was a Saudy, the biggest arms dealer in world history.

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01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 23: He he made three times more as a commissions agent

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 23: for Lockey Martin than every other arms broker combined three times.

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Speaker 15: For So let me just interrupt you. Sorry, Mike, this

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Speaker 15: is breaking news. This is three thirty four. President Trump

1535
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 15: was asked about Jeffrey Epstein saying that anything that is

1536
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 15: credible should be released. It's funny we said the same

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01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 15: thing yesterday, just moments ago. Play cut three thirty four.

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Speaker 11: Ostina, there were a few of the files. Rynal Pamponi, very.

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Speaker 13: Very quick briefing here did she tell you?

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Speaker 22: What did she tell you about when you had specifically

1541
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 22: think she'd.

1542
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 4: Tell you about all that your name up here and

1543
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 4: bought and.

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01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 24: No, No, she's she's given us just a very quick

1545
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 24: briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different

1546
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 24: things that they've seen, and I would say.

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 18: That you know, these files were made.

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01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 24: Up by Komi, they were made up by Obama, they

1549
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 24: were made up by.

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Speaker 18: But the biting it from you know, uh we and.

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01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 8: We went through years of that with the Russia, Russia, Russia.

1552
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 18: Hopes with all of the different things that we had

1553
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 18: to go through. We've gone through years of it. But

1554
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 18: she's handled it very well and it's.

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01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: Going to be up to her.

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 24: Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release you.

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 15: That's the end at the kicker here, And it's a

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01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 15: little so so Mike, I'm starrying interrupt because that was

1559
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 15: very important. We're going to go along here, by the way,

1560
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 15: so we're gonna be able to cover the small dimensions.

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: So based on.

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 15: Your original point, that o PR Office of General Council

1563
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 15: transcript would be credible, right and then potentially could be released,

1564
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 15: So that would fit within what you're talking about here, Mike.

1565
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 23: Benns exactly hard forensic evidence. I also believe that on

1566
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 23: the CIA side, you're not looking for black but I'm

1567
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 23: not saying blackmail didn't happen. I don't know if it

1568
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 23: did or didn't, but I don't see the evidence that

1569
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 23: it did. And it wouldn't be Epstein himself who would

1570
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 23: be doing it, because then you lose all the access

1571
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 23: and you lose all the deal brokering if you have

1572
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 23: a reputation as a blackmailer. The fact is is what

1573
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 23: the CIA needs first and foremost is money. Jeffrey Epstein's

1574
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 23: career started at the time of the creation of a

1575
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 23: private CIA in the CIA. He started his career at

1576
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 23: bear Stearn's under a Screenberg between in nineteen seventy six.

1577
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 23: He was there until nineteen eighty That's the exact period

1578
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 23: under Jimmy Carter when the CIA got destroyed in the budget,

1579
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 23: got all these handcuffs placed on it. In nineteen seventy nine,

1580
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 23: Iran fell and this is what set off a whole.

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 14: Private CIA operation.

1582
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 23: Through Iran Contra and the Iran Iraq War between nineteen

1583
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 23: eighty nine in nineteen eighty eight, and it was this

1584
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 23: exact network of f financiers primarily around US Israel, but

1585
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 23: also UK, France and Saudi and their interests in having

1586
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 23: to deal with Iran, And so you have these financial fixers, Like,

1587
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Speaker 23: let's just stick with this Kashogi story for a second.

1588
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got thirty seconds, Sorry, Mike, Get on.

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01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 14: It was Kashogi.

1590
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 23: When Kashogi flew to the White House in nineteen eighty

1591
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 23: three to meet with Ronald Reagan's National Security advisor to

1592
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 23: pitch the idea of arms to Iran to sell the

1593
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 23: proceeds to Nicaragua. The whole plan was was how do

1594
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 23: you do that despite an arms embargo, the fact that

1595
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,879
Speaker 23: it's illegal. So what they did is they used Israel's

1596
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 23: a middleman to sell the arms and then achieve the

1597
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 23: goals in Nicaragua. But this was a US intelligence operation

1598
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 23: that needed covert financing throughout non Koshogi, who Jeffrey Epstein

1599
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 23: client in ordered to sell arms to Iran to do,

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01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,480
Speaker 23: you know, to basically have a proxy war in Nicaragua.

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01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 14: What I'm saying is is this is the sort of

1602
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 14: thing that you need for COVID action. You need covert financing.

1603
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein everyone who talks to him.

1604
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 15: Okay, so sorry, Mike, I'm just I'm going to blow

1605
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 15: through the breaks here.

1606
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: But then, where do you think is the source of

1607
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: the money?

1608
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 23: Then, well, I think the source of the money are

1609
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 23: the folks in different aspects of the finance world who

1610
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 23: are principally who have access to the pools of money

1611
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 23: that Epstein brokers. So, for example, I think that Jeffrey

1612
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 23: Epstein got his career start of his career serving Bear Stearns. Well,

1613
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 23: I think it started, I mean with the Edgar bronfin

1614
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 23: and the and the Ace Greenberg network.

1615
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 15: Ten seconds, we'll be right back. Let's blow through the breaks.

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01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 15: I'm trying to make sense of this, and Mike's onto something.

1617
01:26:53,400 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Stay right there.

1618
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 15: Okay, got it, So Mike Bens is here, So Mike,

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 15: I'm just trying to understand here that so basically your

1620
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 15: theory is he helped intelligence agencies by providing funds to

1621
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 15: people they wanted to give to Indirectly, he was a

1622
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 15: a money man.

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01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 18: Is that?

1624
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 1: And the sex.

1625
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 15: Stuff was a sideshow because he was a creep, pervert,

1626
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 15: evil person, Is that right?

1627
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 23: I don't even I don't not even thinking about the

1629
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 23: sex stuff that the intelligence. That's not what would be

1630
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 23: in the intelligence files. What what I believe you would

1631
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 23: find if you look for it would be that would

1632
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 23: be the different financial transactions, the private financial truth.

1633
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 14: So this is the role would not be as an asset.

1634
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 23: And this is why I say I don't like when

1635
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 23: I hear the phrase intelligence asset. And whenever I hear

1636
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 23: Pam Bondi being asked about it or Alexecosta being asked

1637
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 23: about intelligence asset, I think, well, that's a limited hangout.

1638
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 23: You know, you know what you're asking there. You know

1639
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 23: that's not the you know, that's not the question. There

1640
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 23: is not going to be a human to a one

1641
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 23: file on Jeffrey Epstein. There never is for financial fixers.

1642
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 23: I did a study recently of ten financial fixers that

1643
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 23: that the CIA used for various covert financing.

1644
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Name covert action file, one that people would know.

1645
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 23: Bruce, Bruce Rappaport, Mark Rich like as I just said,

1646
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 23: I mean, I can I have a list on me

1647
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 23: if if you want me to go names.

1648
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 15: So just so, the an intelligence financial fixer someone who

1649
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 15: is given a pool of money and distributes it upon command.

1650
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 14: No, no, no, no, no, They're not given a pool

1651
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 14: of money. They are. They have access to money. Think

1652
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 14: so let me get give you an example. Okay.

1653
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 23: In nineteen fifty one, declassified CIA records show show the

1654
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 23: head of Intelligence ahead of Research Analysis for the CIA

1655
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 23: sending a letter to the head of the CIA saying,

1656
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 23: next time you talk to the Ford Foundation, get ask

1657
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 23: them if they can provide financing to the following universities. Now,

1658
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 23: this is because the CIA doesn't have enough money in

1659
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 23: the budget to fund thirty different universities they need. They

1660
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 23: want financing for research done at universities on sovietology, on

1661
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 23: what's going on in Africa or Asia. They don't have

1662
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 23: the money for it. They can't get it through Congress.

1663
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 23: But they have friends, friends of the station, and so

1664
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 23: they will speak with outside groups, or they'll speak with

1665
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 23: foundations or hedge fund managers to arrange financing that is

1666
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 23: not on the CIA's books and that will accomplish the goal.

1667
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 14: It's the same thing with Epstein.

1668
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 23: Epstein is I don't think it's moving CIA money. The

1669
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 23: CIA has a goal, for example, in the Middle East,

1670
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 23: they want a pipeline construction, or they want some initiative

1671
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 23: to go through, but it requires juicing the deal by

1672
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,799
Speaker 23: getting buy in from folks in Saudi Arabia, folks in Egypt,

1673
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 23: folks in France. Somebody has to put that deal together

1674
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 23: and be responsible for the deal in case it goes wrong.

1675
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 23: And also sometimes these deals are quite dirty or they

1676
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 23: inflame other allies of the United States. So the US

1677
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 23: does not want to be to look like all that thought.

1678
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Speaker 1: Stay right there, Mike, stay right there.

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Speaker 15: switch today. Mike, please continue your thought. Sorry keep interrupting.

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Speaker 23: Okay, so let's get Let's use a specific example. I

1697
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 23: mentioned a couple names like Bruce Rapaport, Mark Rich and

1698
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 23: the like. So so Bruce Rapaport. There's a scandal that

1699
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 23: folks would do well to look back at today, and

1700
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 23: that was the pipeline scandal in the nineteen eighties that

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01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 23: involved Ronald Reagan's Attorney general during the attempted construction of

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01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 23: a pipeline through Iraq. Now this was that the Iraq

1703
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 23: was being The pipeline was to be built by basically

1704
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 23: the Bechtel Halliburton network, a US company, but it was

1705
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 23: there was a lot of tensions because of the Iran

1706
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 23: Iraq War, and so the US government wanted this pipeline done.

1707
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 23: The CIA wanted this pipeline done. They believed that it

1708
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 23: would advance US interest to do so, but they wanted

1709
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 23: to make sure that Israel did not attack the pipeline

1710
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 23: because of its proximity.

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Speaker 14: To the conflict zone.

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01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 23: So what they did is they engaged Bruce Rappaport, a outside,

1713
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 23: highly controversial financier Swiss Israeli and who was also basically

1714
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,959
Speaker 23: a very close friend of William Casey, the CIA director.

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01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 23: They were golfing buddies, they were close friends, They met

1716
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 23: very frequently, and Bruce Rappaport played the role of not

1717
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:02,440
Speaker 23: only providing the financing but ensuring that there would be

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01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 23: that there would be security guarantees because he was very

1719
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 23: close with friends in the Israeli government. Now, what happened

1720
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 23: there was there ended up being a special prosecutor investigation

1721
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 23: into the Attorney General of the United States because of

1722
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 23: this scandal, because they argued that there was kind of

1723
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 23: a paid to play aspect going on with this, and

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01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 23: but what and they they argued that there were bribes.

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01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 23: But what Bruce Rappidport ended up saying later was no, no, no.

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01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 23: According to the there were no bribes. According to this

1727
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 23: secret deal, the Israeli government was actually going to get

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01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 23: a thirty percent equity stake in it, so.

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Speaker 14: Nobody actually got paid.

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Speaker 23: But the fact is, at that point you need to

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Speaker 23: coordinate four different Middle East governments as well as as

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01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 23: well as US and US contractor interest in this. So

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Speaker 23: this is what I believe the girls are in the

1734
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 23: Epstein story. Girls juice deals when you are when you

1735
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 23: are having to coordinate with all these sort of saudy

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01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 23: shakes and uh, you know how I net worth individuals

1737
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 23: and you're doing business. You're doing deals and being around

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01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 23: young women for parties and things like that is a

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01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 23: way to create an environment where people like hanging out

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01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 23: with you and want to do deals with you. Because

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01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 23: these deals last for years. They want to, they want

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Speaker 23: to be around, They want to. They may think they

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01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 23: can only get access to the deals.

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Speaker 15: You know, if they think that the girls were a

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01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 15: means to the money. The money was not a means

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01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 15: to the girls.

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Speaker 23: I think the girls were away primarily of juicing deals.

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Speaker 14: You're more likely to do.

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01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 23: Business with someone who provides you a currency you can't

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01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 23: get elsewhere.

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01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 14: You have these sixty seventy year old.

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Speaker 23: Dudes who can't meet, you know, an eighteen year old

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01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 23: girl at a bar anymore. Where do you meet them? Well,

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01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 23: you meet them at Jeffrey Epstein's place. Hey, if I

1755
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 23: do this deal with Jeffrey Epstein, he can supply me

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Speaker 23: with girls. So even though this pipeline might not be

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01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 23: in my interests, you know, even if I really don't

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01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 23: care about the petroleum market and ken you uh, even

1759
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 23: if I you know, I really don't want to sell

1760
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 23: guns to Antigua. You know, I know if I if

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01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 23: I do this deal, then I know at a great

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01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 23: time at that last party, I'd like to be included

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01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 23: at the next one. And so you know, that is

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01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 23: a very plause. I'm not saying definitively that's what's happening,

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01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 23: that's what happened here, but that explains it in my view,

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01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 23: without even having to go, you know, much farther than that.

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01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 14: Because here's the thing. You don't have two O one files.

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01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 14: You don't have these.

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01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 23: An intelligence asset is someone who is formally recruited and

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01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 23: there needs to be counterintelligence done on that.

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Speaker 14: It's a it's a process.

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01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 23: There is a there's a vast field beyond asset, and

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01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 23: it's called cooperative, cooperative contact or facilitator or liaison. And

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01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 23: these are the brokers because you need these brokers, these

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01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 23: fall guide type figures, but who also are willing.

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01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 15: To make all broker makes sense now that that's the keyword.

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Speaker 1: Now it's it's really hit. I'm gonna keep you through

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Speaker 1: the break.

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Speaker 15: We're gonna end on radio and RAV ten seconds we got,

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Speaker 15: we got uninterrupted time, Mike.

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Speaker 14: So this is why, this is why.

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Speaker 23: Bill Burns, the CIA director, met three times with Jeffrey Epsteine,

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Speaker 23: the