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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the six.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bucky Brooks today stepping in for Brian Baldinger and

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah. It's the one and the only, Acetown's Finest.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking about Paul Weezy Paul Wall. We're talking

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Buck?

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Speaker 4: How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Man? We're good. You know, we chilling. You know how

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Speaker 2: it goes. How's everything with you?

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Speaker 4: It's good?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm digging in on my tape

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Speaker 1: I said, step in and give you that Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 1: I could do.

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Speaker 3: Just make sure we're not probably betting on the first pitch,

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Speaker 3: The New York Giants, let go of Brian Dayball. Today

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Speaker 3: three plus seasons twenty forty and one team decided wanted

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Speaker 2: The carousel is spinning already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, it looked like there was a

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Speaker 2: Just tell me what you saw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You know, it's interesting because there was so much

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Speaker 4: Number one. The defense is I mean, it's an elite defense.

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Speaker 4: And it's just not happening. It's just not happening.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy that doesn't want the shot, like I

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Speaker 1: I hope you don't kick it up to me. I'm

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Speaker 4: That shouldn't be who you are.

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Speaker 1: If you're Trevor Lawrence, you should always want that big moment,

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Speaker 4: It's never materialized.

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Speaker 1: And that defensive front against a beat up offensive line

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's so crazy, it's so surreal, men,

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Speaker 2: So by the time you got.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a done deal. And you can sense it

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Speaker 4: I'll say for okay, I got to get a call

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Speaker 1: Now, I got spots for you. I got to get

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Speaker 2: Let you just keep it.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were at the Galleria, so we went to

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Speaker 3: We went there, and you know, I got that the

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Speaker 3: But I will say, man, the Texans defense is good

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Speaker 3: Whatever Demico has to tell them to get it done,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to take the threes in Tournament of

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Speaker 4: But this game, they got the Titans coming up.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I would have said that Texas don't have a

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Speaker 1: But after what I watched from Miami yesterday, I don't

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Speaker 3: I will say that the Buffalo Bills are funny because

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Speaker 2: Of Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: If we really talk about like the blue chip players,

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Speaker 3: James Cook is an upper echelon guy. Some people will

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Speaker 2: They can snatch down those good teams.

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Speaker 3: But when they play like a Taunton State, Taunton Sate

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not good enough defensively. You know, they haven't

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Speaker 1: You're right, Bucky, there's there's just something missing. Kean Klem

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Speaker 4: I think on this team, I think you hit that

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Speaker 1: And so if that's the case, you really can't afford

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's crazy to watch because we love Josh

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Speaker 3: he just I don't know if he has enough dudes

439
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: with him. And so now I'm worried about them when

440
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 3: we talk about like title team, they still can't get

441
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 3: to Super Bowl. They still can do all the other

442
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 3: stuff and win it. But I think it's really imperative

443
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: for them. Man, every game they show up. Man, they

444
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 3: guys got to show out or they don't have a

445
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: chance to be able to get it done.

446
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Speaker 2: Speaking of showing.

447
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: Out, let's talk about this because I think this game

448
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: really set out to me. Pittsburgh LA Chargers Sunday Night game.

449
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: There was a lot of intrigue in this one because man,

450
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: everyone respects Jim Harbaugh and the bullies that he tends

451
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: to build, but This was like the litmus tests. If

452
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: the charges are what they think they are, they'll be

453
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: able to take care of business against the Steelers, because

454
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: the Steelers are going to show you one way or

455
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: the other, are you rough and tumble or not. Charges

456
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 3: got it done, and he did it and what I

457
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: think is classic Harbor fashion.

458
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know exactly what you mean by that,

459
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: because listen, it is a mess at the tackle position

460
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: for them. I really worry long term. I thought this

461
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: was a great win. You're going up against that rush,

462
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: those edges with tackles who just frankly, you know, are

463
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: just have no business starting for a playoff caliber team.

464
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: But of course they're there because of the injuries, and

465
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: they still win and win convincingly, and justin Herbert was

466
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: under duress, he was, but they ran the ball. I mean,

467
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: what Harball did was say, we're not going to change

468
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: our identity.

469
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Speaker 4: We're going to do what we do. We're not going to.

470
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Speaker 1: Make drastic changes to game plan because you know, we're

471
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Speaker 1: worried about protection. I think I think he did what

472
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: he needs needed to do from a philosophical standpoint, to

473
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: try and protect his quarterback as much as he could.

474
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: But the fact is the team just came out there

475
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: and didn't let they didn't let the Steelers get off offensively.

476
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: If you get behind and you're the Chargers and you

477
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: have Pittsburgh being able to pin their ears back knowing

478
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: you're passing, you're cooked, you're done well. I mean, the

479
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: Chargers defensively stood up and showed out and they said,

480
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: we're not going to let you get that lead, so

481
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Speaker 1: that we're going to be able to control how this

482
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: game flow goes. And I thought, and Na's classic hardball football.

483
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean, because this game didn't

484
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: get away from him from a game flow standpoint. He

485
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: kept it right where he needed to so that the

486
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: Steelers couldn't just pin their ears back, because that would

487
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: have been a real problem if had they been able

488
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Speaker 1: to do that with a ten point lead, for example.

489
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think you just have to be

490
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: impressed with what you saw from the Chargers. I mean,

491
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: from all of it, right, you saw a running game materialized.

492
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Speaker 3: Like you think, Hey, they don't have a Mario Hampton

493
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: and Lord Bow. They get Vidal and some other guys

494
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: to contribute and make the greatest You know what I mean,

495
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: You know you get them running the football effectively. You

496
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: see Lab McConkie make plays when they need plays in

497
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: the passing game. Keenan Allen Sessta record for the Chargers

498
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: in terms of like all time receiving leader, and then

499
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert just doing Justin Herbert stuff. Whatever they need

500
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Speaker 3: him to do, he can get it done. And as

501
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: you talked about that defense being able to hunt and

502
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: get after it. The thing about the Chargers, they kind

503
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: of remind me of those classic Alabama teams with Nick Sabin,

504
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: had the heavy hitters on defense and it was defense

505
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 3: run game, kind of efficient playmaking, and you look up

506
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: and you felt like they dominated the game, but it

507
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: was like a twenty four to three beat down. I

508
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: felt like that game. Once they seize control, the score

509
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: is what the score is. But it never felt like

510
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: the Stealers were going to get back in the game.

511
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: It always felt like the Chargers had their game under control.

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I do wonder.

513
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the Steelers are a paper Tiger,

514
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: but this has not been an attack down the field defense,

515
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean offense. This is one that there's a lot

516
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: of Deakin and Duncan by Aaron Rodgers. He doesn't throw.

517
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: It's not the same pass concept we've seen in the past. So,

518
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I am curious to see

519
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: if they can get into a shootout and win in

520
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: a shootout against a good team. And it never materialized

521
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: because they just they couldn't find their offense. They couldn't

522
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: find they are missing. They're another team that's missing something offensively.

523
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Speaker 1: I like Jalen Warren. He is he's a tough, versatile

524
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: running back, but he's not going to hit you with

525
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: a ton of explosives. DK Metcalf has kind of a

526
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: limited route tree. They're trying to do a lot of

527
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: you know, he's at his best old school Green Bay Packers,

528
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers throwing a lot of you know, over outs,

529
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: posts goes. But it's turned into a lot of catch

530
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: and run stuff. And that's not really what DK is

531
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: all about. That's not where he's that's not where he's

532
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: at his best.

533
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Not at all.

534
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things that I found

535
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: weird when they made the move and they were so

536
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: adamant about getting Aaron Rodgers, was I was like, well,

537
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: the deep ball is not in play, Like this is

538
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't want to get hit, so he's

539
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: not gonna hang in the pocket for a long time,

540
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna be able to push you down

541
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: the field. So now you have a deacon offense with

542
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: vertical playmakers. So it's it's a it's a hodgepodge of

543
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: players that don't that don't match how you really want

544
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: to get down. I just don't know how that that

545
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: fits short term or long term. When we think about

546
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: how teams begin to really hone in on what you

547
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: do the second half of the season, they take those.

548
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: Things away, what are they gonna do, How are they

549
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: gonna fix it?

550
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: How they gonna find a way to be very productive

551
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: because you need the explosive plays to score points. Last,

552
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: they can't score points because they can't make the twenty

553
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: yard plus pass plays and they're not breaking off the

554
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: big runs. I don't know how they can efficiently put

555
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: enough points to deal with the heavyweights.

556
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at his average depth of target dk metcalf.

557
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: It's it's his average depth of target is twelve point

558
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: one yards this year. It's the lowest of his whole career.

559
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: It's been primarily fourteen one, fourteen, nine, thirteen, four, twelve seven,

560
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: one year, fourteen one, fourteen one, and now he's down

561
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: to twelve one. That is just shows you there's a

562
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of uh, there's a lot of throws that are

563
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: being made short for him, and he's a guy that

564
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: you got to let those legs stretch. Man.

565
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: You got you got a.

566
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: Weapon that's made to be stretching the field vertically, and

567
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: they're just it's just not it's not happening.

568
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: No, it's not happening. I don't know how, how is

569
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: how it's gonna how it's going to change. Then they

570
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: got a tough one coming up because about the Cincinnati

571
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: Bengals on the horizon. Luckily they may not have to

572
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: face Trey Hendrickson because with that offense with Aaron Rodgers struggling, Yeah,

573
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: I just I don't, man, I don't know how to

574
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: steal his bounce back. But they'll find a way to

575
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: kind of like be in that conversation. But man, this

576
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: was a game for them to kind of confirm their

577
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: standing with the heavyweights, and they took a step back.

578
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: In my estimation, when it comes to.

579
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: It, I want to go back the New England Patriots

580
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: knockoff the ten Bay Buccaneers twenty eight to twenty three.

581
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Drake may Is continued to do Drake May things, and

582
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: I got to ask you, this man, remind me of

583
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: what you thought about Drake May when he was coming out.

584
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: I was too close to the fire my allegiance to Carolina,

585
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: like wanting more from him. But you tell me what

586
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: you thought about Drake May when he was coming out,

587
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: and is this diversion that you expected to see as

588
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: a pro.

589
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Stage. I gave him a sixty five, which is a

590
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: boom bus grade, and I felt like he's the classic

591
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: boom bust player. And this is what.

592
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: Is what I said, challenging evaluation with top flight.

593
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Measurables and tools, but inconsistencies and create a lower floor

594
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: than some teams might be comfortable with his size and

595
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: arm talent, Jump off tape immediately there's another throw on

596
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: the field he can't make, but there are definitely throws

597
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: he will try that he shouldn't. The gunslinger mentality creates

598
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: fearlessness that can turn into interceptions, but also gives him

599
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: a chance to win in tight windows. YadA, YadA, YadA.

600
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: There's an undeniable energy to May's game that can create

601
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: momentum or turn chaotic when players come off schedule. The

602
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: combination of traits and tape make them a boombus prospect

603
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: who may need a good situation and patient management and

604
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: slash coaching to help shepherd him towards his potential. I

605
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: did not expect to see what we saw this year

606
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: so far. I did not expect this. I think the

607
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: job that Vrabel has done should not be understated. I

608
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: think the patients that you know that's in the building

609
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: right now, with Elliott Wolf and ownership and whatever, they

610
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: were perfectly willing to wait on Drake to become that player.

611
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's happening way sooner. And I think a

612
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: lot of it gets to I talked about that energy

613
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: that is undeniable. He's got a level of confidence, you know.

614
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: We talked about Trevor Lawrence has all this and that,

615
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: but the confidence seems to be missing.

616
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: Drake May has never been missing confidence.

617
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I always hesitate. Everyone wants to have

618
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: an inaccurate quarterback or guy who's missing throws be the

619
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: next Josh Allen. Just think it's going to get fixed,

620
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, because they're big and they got a big arm.

621
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: The fact is he has made some real changes to

622
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: his game. And I didn't see this happening this quickly

623
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: with this team. Look at what he got out of

624
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: mc collins long throw. Mc collins went for one oh six.

625
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: This is a guy who you know, he's a nice

626
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver to have. But you got Stefan Diggs with

627
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Kyle Williams one catch, seventy two yard touchdown.

628
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: He's letting that the big dogs getting to eat and

629
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: that's what he needs. Men, he needs to cut it loose,

630
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: and that's what's happening. But the other thing that happened

631
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: is the guy that I know, we both love, Trevon Henderson.

632
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: What a big game for him. I've been waiting for

633
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: this breakout and this is what he's capable of adding

634
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: to a team.

635
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: Remind me what you thought about Drake, because I.

636
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Mean, it's very much it's very much the same.

637
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Because so many people celebrated him, and I was like,

638
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: because I knew too much. One I was in school

639
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: right after his dad graduated, so I knew the dad,

640
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: and the dad was a great athlete, a legend back

641
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: where I'm from.

642
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: And then you know the kid didn't play his last

643
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: year of.

644
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: High school ball because of COVID, and then he sat

645
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: behind Sam Howell early and then he played two years,

646
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: so he didn't have a lot of experience when he

647
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: made his way to the pros. He comes to the Pros,

648
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: they threw him in right away, and whatever it was

649
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: last year, it was like in terms of dry Mayo,

650
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: that system, what they were trying to do.

651
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: And so you're sitting there and he has all.

652
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: The prototypical stuff that you look for in a new

653
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: school quarterback, big arm, size, athleticism, swag as you saw

654
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: him celebrate the Cam Newton thing when they played against him.

655
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: He got all of that. But I just didn't know

656
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: how he's.

657
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Going to job with Job McDaniels, because I didn't know

658
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: if Josh could make it right for young quarterback. But

659
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: I think the thing that I underestimated was the Mike

660
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Rabel factor, the connectivity that they have as a team,

661
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels trying to unlock some things, and how look, man,

662
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: and when you're a player and you play for a

663
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: smart coaching staff that sets you up to win the

664
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: masters situations, it just seems like it just all clicked

665
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 3: because this dude is playing at an MVP level, and

666
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: you can't deny it.

667
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: You can't like it's him and Matthew Stafford and.

668
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: John wants to say it. No one wants to say

669
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: it because no one feels comfortable saying Drake may MVP.

670
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: But when you look at the wins and you look

671
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: at the stats, it's true. I mean it's just true.

672
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: And they're a better team than Buffalo right now. I

673
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: mean they just are. Weekend and week out, they played

674
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: better football.

675
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: I mean it'd be a really good Tampa Bay team. Yeah,

676
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: good in Tampa Bay team in Tampa that is. I

677
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: mean that is a big feather in the CA And Bucky.

678
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I watched so a lot. Alonzo Heismiths, who is who's

679
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: up there in New England right now, is a longtime

680
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: friend and he was in town. Shout out to Zoe

681
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: who lost his wife very yeah and uh, and he

682
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: was in town in Houston for Game one, so he said, Hey,

683
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: meet me up here at the sports bo let's watch

684
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: a game. So I watched the game against the Raiders

685
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: and it was rough. I thought, Man, New England, it's

686
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Drake's got a long

687
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: way to go. This this may be a you know,

688
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: a three or four year pro three year process minimum

689
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: for him.

690
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: That game was the outlier. Ever since that.

691
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Game, it's been a completely different team and they didn't

692
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: play well in that game. But I think it's a

693
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: credit to Mike Rabell something you said about Rabel. You know,

694
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking and Josh McDaniels. When you have when

695
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: a team has confidence that the head like they got

696
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: the they got the boss man, like Dan Campbell. You know,

697
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: it's that feel where every one knows, we got our guy,

698
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: our guy will take care of us.

699
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: We're good.

700
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: We know he's this is big Daddy, and he's got it.

701
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: I think Mike Rabel gives you some of that. There's

702
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: no concern about it. I wonder if this head coach

703
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. There's no concern with jos Josh McDaniels.

704
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: For whatever you want to think about his personality, how

705
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: it ended in Denver and then he skipped out on

706
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or whatever. He's good with quarterbacks, he is, And

707
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I think that the entire team has clearly has a

708
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: belief in the people in charge so that they're able

709
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: to just focus on going out and doing their job

710
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: and I think they have a confidence that the guys

711
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: who run the show know what they're doing and have

712
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: them headed in the right direction, so all they have

713
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: to do is just lock in and play ball.

714
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think everyone they'll never admit it. In Tennessee.

715
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: I think everyone underestimated how good of a coach that

716
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: dude is. And like Rabel, and then with Josh McDaniels,

717
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: I think, man, some guys are destined to just be

718
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: great in a particular role, and Josh mcdameels is great

719
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: in a role as a coordinator.

720
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: So what do you think about that idea though? Of

721
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: Tennessee getting ready?

722
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, when you know you I get the fact

723
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: that everyone gets frustrated and they want their pound of

724
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: flesh and they want to we just need to make

725
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: a change, Buck, I know you.

726
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: Can go all the way back.

727
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I remember when Steeler fans wanted to get rid of

728
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: Bill Kawer years ago, and Bill Cower was kind of

729
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: creeping around at five hundred mark and he wasn't and

730
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: then it turned into you know, Super Bowl with Bill

731
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Cower turned into the Steelers were never going to make

732
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: a quick change, or they were never going to make

733
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: a ration. They were always going to air on the

734
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: side of caution, and he ended up becoming, you know,

735
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: a tremendous coach over there. Tennessee had the guy, they

736
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: had the guy, Mike Vrabel's a dude, And I get

737
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: that it wasn't you know, maybe the GM and head

738
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: coach thing wasn't perfectly a line.

739
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: There, but look where they are now, Look where Tennessee

740
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: is now.

741
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: Wasn't work.

742
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: I just think so many of the errors that we

743
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: make in our business are just ego things, like like,

744
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: hey man, let's get in the room and figure this

745
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: thing out one way or the other.

746
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: Let's hash this out. Let's try and find a way

747
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: to make this work.

748
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Because it was a good thing, and that good thing

749
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: is certainly rolling in New England. And I hate to

750
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: say it's funny man, because he's not Belichick, but it

751
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: has that BELICHICKI and feel in terms of they're just

752
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: a smart football team that doesn't beat themselves, and they

753
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: got a young quarterback that is playing at a high level.

754
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Lance. I heard you pour dirt on them.

755
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: You said it was over, and he was done, Like

756
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: we need Harbrough out of there. And all they've done

757
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: is reel off three straight wins. They knock off the

758
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. They get a twenty seven nineteen win over

759
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: the Vikings, and looky, looky here right in the mix,

760
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: and people are saying they may be the team to

761
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: beat in the North.

762
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Ravens.

763
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Steelers lose, Ravens win, and here we are look good

764
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: and looking like you said, looky, looky.

765
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: Pretty much everyone had them win in the North.

766
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: I tried to fade that and say I got a

767
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: little two game head start when we did our NFL,

768
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, our mid season stuff. I said, I'm going

769
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: to put the Steelers because I'm going to take this

770
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: two game head start. Well, we don't have a two

771
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: game head start anymore. It's now one, and soon it

772
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: will be completely wiped out because they're playing defense again

773
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: and the return of Lamar Jackson obviously is huge, but

774
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: the defense coming back from the brink of disaster is

775
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: maybe a bigger story because that defense. I watched the

776
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: Texans just roll through their defense and now they had

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: some injuries on defense, but that didn't look like a Ravens.

778
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: It was the worst Ravens defense I've ever seen since

779
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: their inception is Ravens and they've actually been able to

780
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: right the ship. There's another one where the head coach

781
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: is just steady Eddy all the time, Harball and you

782
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: get your quarterback back. You got King Henry back there,

783
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Zay is still Zay. You've got you know, Mark Andrews

784
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, can play a little bit obviously still

785
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: and defensively you were able to get it back on track.

786
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm curious what the ceiling is for this team, because

787
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: I think they are going to win the AFC North.

788
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: They have been, they were inconsistent before Lamar got hurt.

789
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: I am curious to see if they can play their

790
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: best football on both sides of the ball enough so

791
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: to compete in the AFC, which is you know, I don't.

792
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: I don't think there's no Killers in the AFC this year.

793
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't think. But there's still a lot of good teams.

794
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still a lot of depth over there

795
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: in the West. The Colts are are causing some real

796
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: problems for people, obviously with that offense, and you know,

797
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: I just think you don't. I don't know if New

798
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: England's ready. I don't know if New England's ready. The

799
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: Bills don't look like they have that kind of team

800
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: right now. So why can't the Ravens jump up and say, hey, Tada,

801
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: here we are Ravens and Chiefs back at the top again.

802
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can be right there now.

803
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: I would say this.

804
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: What gives them a chance is when you have the

805
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: quarterback and Derrick Henry, it allows them to control the game.

806
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: We talked about game control and Harbor, Jim Harbaugh and

807
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: what they do with the Chargers. No one really wants

808
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: to deal with the Ravens in terms of having to

809
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: deal with Lamar Jackson in a one game deal where

810
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: he can explode and do that, and having deal with

811
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 3: the combination of Lamar and Derick Henry where they're running

812
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: the ball and controlling it and just dominating time of

813
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: possession is problematic. If they can continue to fix the

814
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: defense like they're doing, where they just don't give up

815
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: the explosives, don't give it, the big plays, the one

816
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: two drive to play touchdown drives, those are the things

817
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: that gives them a chance. They they're coming and we

818
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: talk about the best teams heading into the postseason are

819
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: playing their best ball December and they're beginning to kind

820
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: of find their way and kind of get back to that. Yeah, man,

821
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: it looks good and it looks like they're gonna be

822
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: the team that we thought they were going to be.

823
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: It just took them aroundabout way to get there. For

824
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, JJ McCarthy kind of came back to

825
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: earth a little bit. He didn't put a big numbers

826
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: the week before, but there was a buzz some energy

827
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: that he brought. He played against the big boys, and

828
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 3: the big boys kind of went out this time.

829
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: Gotta remember he's a rookie.

830
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we can say he's not a rookie, but

831
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: this is a player didn't have a lot of experience

832
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: in college, had missed all of last year, a big

833
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: chunk of this year. He's still learning to be an

834
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. He's in his infant stages and there's no

835
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: way you can rush it. There's no way you can

836
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: get through it any faster than you know, other than

837
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: just taking snaps, going through adversity, having success, learning what

838
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: you can and can't do, figuring out the speed of

839
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: the game, getting comfortable and making changes at the line

840
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: of scrimmage.

841
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 4: All of that's going to come with time.

842
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: You can't rush it so, but it's a necessary process

843
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. It sucks and it has to come halfway

844
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: through a second season, but it is what it is.

845
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to get through it.

846
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: So they'll always be a dangerous team.

847
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: You saw they had a lead at half and they

848
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: were they were playing some pretty good football. But then

849
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: you know, the cream of the crop just just rows up.

850
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: The team that knows how to win did what they

851
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: had to do early in the quarter. They put their

852
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: foot in the throat early in the quarter and it.

853
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: Was a rap, and it was a rap.

854
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about this this transition quickly to it

855
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: being a rap. Elie Rams San Francisco forty nine ers,

856
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford making the case to win an MVP. We

857
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: talked about Drake May but Matthew Stafford just doing the deal.

858
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: But I got to tell you just lance on a

859
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: note so where your dad will be laughing.

860
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: The other Rams tried it out.

861
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: Three tight ends and they're running a thirteen personnel package

862
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: and they're playing musical chairs with those three tight ends.

863
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: They're going from the eye to like unbalanced line to

864
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: all kinds of funky stuff and they are absolutely giving

865
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: people problems when you look at the RAMS and all

866
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: the creative stuff they're doing on offense, what stands out

867
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: to you?

868
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's what you talk about, is that

869
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, from a personnel standpoint, learning how to personnel

870
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: your way into mismatches because you have to remember, teams

871
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: are not a lot of teams are not prepared. They're

872
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: coming in with stuff that they haven't seen or been

873
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: prepared for in practice, and I think it really tests.

874
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: I remember my dad always told me in game, he

875
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: always felt like in game, and especially halftime halftime, what

876
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: changes you know when you make your halftime adjustments. He

877
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: always thought that was a little a little overrated. He said,

878
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have a lot of time on

879
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: the sideline. You try to figure out what they're doing

880
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: against you and what you can do to counter that.

881
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: And it's a quick discussion halftime, it's almost no discussion.

882
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you have such little time. And so I

883
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: think with the RAMS, if they start showing you looks

884
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: that you're not used to, which is what they're doing

885
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: now with the thirteen personnel, at thirteen personnel can be brilliant.

886
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: I saw Gary Kubiak, you of the preseason game years

887
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: ago against the San Francisco forty nine ers, and I'll

888
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: never forget how he was able to throw out of

889
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: that and then like he didn't want to show too much,

890
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: but it really opened my eyes to the fact that, man,

891
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: you thirteen, which is one running at three tight ends,

892
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: you really have If you've got some flexible tight ends,

893
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: you can really number one, you can unlock the running game.

894
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: But if you threaten people with a little bit of

895
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: passing attack, they have to stay base and you can

896
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: really get after teams. You know, they can't go to

897
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: a heavy package, they can't go to heavy personnel. And

898
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: it just speaks to what the rams of. This is

899
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: the rams, this is what McVeigh does. McVeigh is one

900
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: of the great coaches. I think he's a younger version

901
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: of what John Gruden was at one point when he

902
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: was in the league. They're very similar personalities. But mcveigh's

903
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: just so creative. There's a reason everyone wants to hire

904
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: his coaches off the tree because Shanahan gets that all

905
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: the time. And I get that he came for that

906
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan tree, But I think McVeigh has done just an

907
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant job at getting the most out of his

908
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: quarterback and getting the most out of the offenses. And

909
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: I think what gets overlooked is they know who they are.

910
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Never have they not had their identity. They know what

911
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: their identity is. They may make some tweaks, but it's

912
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: not like they're searching. They just say, we're going to

913
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: do something different this game. It's not like we don't

914
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: know what our identity was. And how about the addition

915
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: of DeVonta Adams, how big that's been for that offense.

916
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's just so great for them, right,

917
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: Like you're talking about knowing who they are, Like they

918
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: have a way of.

919
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 2: Being solid, sound, and sexy all at once.

920
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: Right, you're solid and sound in terms of like the

921
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: schemes that they use are super sound. They're time tested,

922
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: tried and true. We talk about how your dad would

923
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: just love the thirteen personnel package they basically have, you know, like,

924
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: and people won't get this, but old line coaches get this.

925
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: When you have three tight ends on the field, if

926
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: you put all three of them on the side, you

927
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: create a five man's surface. And in creating that five

928
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: man's surface, you now have created an unbalanced line without

929
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: really moving all the people over and so now as

930
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: a defense, you have to figure out, hey man, do

931
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 3: we make the guard the strong side guard, the new center?

932
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: How do we bump over to this?

933
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: And then they can flip and move and then you

934
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: can go from a five man's surface to now, hey,

935
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: let's go I formation tight end wing wide receiver on

936
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: the backside. Now let's go I formation tight ends separate

937
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: size wide receiver out wide. I mean, they can create

938
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: so many problems for you shift and moving with the

939
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 3: personnel because they're versatile. So you got that part of it.

940
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: You got the running game that is a test to that.

941
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: You have a one of the best quarterbacks pocket passages

942
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: that we've seen in NFL history in Matthew Stafford. You

943
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: got two big receivers that can get it done, and

944
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams and Pookuin Nakua, and they've created an environment

945
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: where everyone just doesn't care about this stasty just want

946
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: to win.

947
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: So you know how hard it is.

948
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: To deal with a team that can throw so much

949
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: at you and that players don't care where the ball

950
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: goes to me. That's a special thing and that really

951
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: allows Sean McVay to just, hey man, whatever we need

952
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: to do today to win this game.

953
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: That's what we'll do.

954
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: And this helps having a guy like DeVante Adams, a

955
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: veteran who's wanted the highest, like he knows what it's

956
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: supposed to be. He just wants to win right now.

957
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: And so you have pookin Aku, who's an unselfish guy.

958
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: You have a veteran who just you know, wants to win.

959
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: He'll get his he'll get his looks when he gets

960
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: his looks. And that's still quite a bit. I mean

961
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty frequently, but I think it's you talked about

962
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: when you have that of so on an unbalanced line,

963
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: you're able to get hat on hat. They can't get enough,

964
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: they can't get enough personnel for you not to have

965
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: an advantage. You're gonna have your linebackers back, so you

966
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: now have an automatic advantage in terms of your you know,

967
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: your two main games working up to linebackers. Yes, you say, well,

968
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: you're a little more limited. You're not going to be

969
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: able to stretch the defense. That's more compact, it's a

970
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: more condensed formation. I mean that's true, but at the

971
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: same time it allows you opportunities to increase it and

972
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: hit bigger gash runs as well. And you've actually got

973
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: the numbers in your favor in the box there typically,

974
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: and if you want to get a little a little

975
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: if you want to get a little frogy with your safeties,

976
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're getting play actioned and you

977
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: are you are having some issues down the field. So

978
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: I think it's just I think it's brilliant the way

979
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: that the Rams are saying, you're going to play our game.

980
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: We're going to dictate the type of game that you're

981
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 1: going to play.

982
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: And I think having.

983
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: Two friends McVeigh and Kyle and Kyle Shanahan and having

984
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: him throw that thirteen out there at Shanahan, I think

985
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: that was also just a kind of a that's one

986
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: they'll kind of laugh about in the offseason. I don't

987
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: know that Shanahan laughs a whole lot, but they will

988
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: have them. They'll have a little conversation about that at

989
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: some point.

990
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Well let's talk about this, because on the other side, Shanahan,

991
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: say what you will. They lost the game, but mac

992
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: Jones put on another impressive performance. Mac Jones is certainly

993
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: setting himself up as a reclamation project. But here is

994
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: where some of that reclamation project goes to the wayside.

995
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: You know, mac Jones signed a two year deal with

996
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: the forty nine is when he came on board. So

997
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: all of this good stuff where people are like, hey,

998
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna be able to parlay this to something.

999
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: No he's not.

1000
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: But are we going to have a quarterback competition in

1001
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: San Francisco when brock Purdy's ready and available? Are we

1002
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: getting to the point where we have to respect mac

1003
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: Jones in that system where maybe just maybe not that

1004
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: this buyer's remorse when it comes to brock Purdy, but

1005
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: they even go to training camp, mag Jones did a

1006
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: whole lot of playing and a lot of succeeding.

1007
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: What does that look like for the Niners in the future.

1008
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1009
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, always I'm a big believer. One of my

1010
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: biggest sticking points right now is the NFL has a

1011
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: methodology where average to above average quarterbacks just because they're

1012
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: next in the in the line is the queue. As

1013
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: they would say in England, they just get this elite salary.

1014
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it doesn't happen in baseball and baseball

1015
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: you're going to get what the true, truly what the

1016
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: market bears. The market's bearing this amount just because it's

1017
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: a hard to find position. And you had something I

1018
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: think you actually wrote an article about, and I know

1019
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this, about who would be

1020
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the first team that would try to just rotate quarterbacks and.

1021
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: Not look at quarterbacks almost like a college would look.

1022
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: I think you wrote that article, and that's that's an

1023
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: interesting philosophy. It's it's probably easier to discuss than implement.

1024
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Bucky, what happens when you

1025
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: are Jacksonville and you plugged Trevor Trevor Lawrence never played

1026
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: like an elite quarterback, but he's getting paid like it.

1027
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you were, You were ready to put stipulations

1028
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: in his contract about video games and watching tape.

1029
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: You thought that was gonna go well, and you give

1030
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: him the money that he got.

1031
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: And so I don't I don't know the last time

1032
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: that an average quarterback got that elite money and performed

1033
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: at a high level, performed to the standards of the contract.

1034
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: It simply I don't think it ever happens.

1035
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: But what I so, Rock Purdy got a big payday,

1036
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna have to pay him. I mean,

1037
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play him I'm curious if San

1038
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Francisco doesn't try to dangle a little carried out to

1039
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: the Jets who have all these draft picks right now,

1040
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: say hey Jets, here's Daniel Jones two point zero, Matt Jones.

1041
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it is not a great quarterback draft by

1042
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 4: the look of things.

1043
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I don't we got time to get to

1044
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: that on another podcast. Hey man, the people that are

1045
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: trying to sell me on this twenty twenty six quarterback

1046
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: class for the draft, Like I'm just writing my notes,

1047
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: do not change.

1048
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Don't let TV change you when you get up there.

1049
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: We're talking about these guys all the time.

1050
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: Because Lance I don't see it, and because I don't

1051
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: see it, each and every week they keep trying to

1052
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: bring up somebody to do. We talked about Gary Nutsmer.

1053
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: He got bitch last weekend against Bama, sat him down.

1054
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: So what us So now the guys like your Mac Jones,

1055
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: is your Daniel Jones is Those guys have value because

1056
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: there's simply more jobs than people that can feel those jobs.

1057
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: What are we going to do with quarterback? If you

1058
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: have an issue?

1059
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: Baker?

1060
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: So the reclamation projects with reclamation success with Baker, with

1061
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald so I knew my Sam Donald Gray was good, Bucky,

1062
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: it just took like six seven years for him to

1063
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: get there.

1064
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: There's no inspiration date on it.

1065
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: That's right, Baker, Sam Daniel Jones, it really does. Frankly,

1066
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: everyone wants to know who's the next Daniel Jones instead

1067
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: of drafting his quarterback draft. Well, that's where San Francisco

1068
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: is going to have some They're gonna they're gonna find

1069
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: that they're going to have a nice offer or two

1070
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: for Mac Jones in the offseason. So that's gonna be

1071
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting because Max still has one year

1072
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: left on that contract, as you mentioned, so he comes

1073
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: at a very very favorable price. So he's either going

1074
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: you got a chance to trade for Mac Jones and

1075
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: you either get a bridge quarterback or you're giving him

1076
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: one year to prove that he could be the next

1077
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: potential Daniel Jones, which will run us into the Colts.

1078
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: And I thought, my man, I was like, I was like, man,

1079
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I need to get up to Indianapolis and see Chris

1080
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: Baalers nice house again because I'll before the season start

1081
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: on my this might be my last shot, you know,

1082
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: because I don't know what's going to happen this year.

1083
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: But I'll be damned if all the pieces haven't finally

1084
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: fallen in place, those lines that he's been drafting for years,

1085
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: the wide receivers he's been accumulating, Jonathan Taylor with one

1086
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: uncompetent quarterback, and frankly, I think some really good play

1087
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: calling by Shane Steichen. It's come together now. There have

1088
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: been signs the last couple of games that there's a

1089
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: law of diminishing returns with Daniel Jones. If you ask

1090
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: too much of them, the turnovers will start to crop up.

1091
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: But Man is at an explosive.

1092
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: Offense, explosive offense, and we've seen it come together. I

1093
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: would say that bathers commitment to fielding, the all combined team,

1094
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: all the guys with the measurables and all that is

1095
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: coming together because they are fast, they are physical, and

1096
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: when they got the right distributor turnovers and all it

1097
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: works out.

1098
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this last game.

1099
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Atlanta Falcons and the Coals, because we're

1100
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: talking about you got.

1101
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: Bathered, hey man, the shoes real huh.

1102
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, when you look at what the

1103
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: Colts are doing right now.

1104
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to my mind is why

1105
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: can Jonathan Taylor not be MVP?

1106
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: He is to me, the most valuable player.

1107
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: And I get these arguments from Twitter, argument guys that

1108
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: you can't look, the running back can never be the

1109
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: most valuable. It's always the quarterback is the most valuable.

1110
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, See how good the Colts

1111
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: offense would be if if Jonathan Taylor wasn't a major

1112
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: factor and they couldn't utilize that play action pass. Jonathan

1113
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Taylor is making Daniel Jones better. Jonathan Taylor is making

1114
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken better. Jonathan Taylor's success, to me is the

1115
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: number one reason I know Daniel Jones is going to

1116
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: get the love because he's the quarterback. But to me,

1117
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: it all begins with the physicality and the ball control

1118
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: and frankly, the explosiveness of Jonathan Taylor. And I hate

1119
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: the idea that a running back cannot be an MVP

1120
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: when I think he is the most valuable player, or

1121
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: at least is in that discussion along with as you mentioned,

1122
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: Stafford has really jumped up there. Drake may should be

1123
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Jonathan Taylor should be have a seat

1124
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: at that table, in that discussion.

1125
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 3: Look, he's done a really good job of getting them

1126
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: up and going two hundred plus yards against a Falcon

1127
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 3: is terrific. This explosive place six seven years into the league.

1128
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to be that fast running away from

1129
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 3: defenders like he's doing.

1130
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: And look, man, it's the Bell Cow effect. You have

1131
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: such a talent.

1132
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: A challenge dealing with the Colts because you got to

1133
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: stop him first, no matter what we say, you got

1134
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: to stop the run to set up everything else.

1135
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: And so you can't stop him.

1136
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: So now Ty Warren, Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, Alec Pearce,

1137
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: they're one of their one on ones. On the backside,

1138
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: that offensive line is beefy as physical. And then defensively,

1139
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: lou Ana Roumo coming over maybe the most slept on

1140
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator because for whatever reason, the Beagles thought they

1141
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: could get better than what they had in him. And

1142
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: now you've given him some weapons, some playmakers. You make

1143
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 3: a trade to get Sauce Guarden, and you put Sauce

1144
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: out there, which eventually.

1145
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: Gonna give them what you think of that deal.

1146
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: So from the Jet.

1147
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: Standpoint, and I love ag and I understand the fact

1148
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: of having five first round picks. But we've seen how

1149
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: hard it is for teams to turn picks into players

1150
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: and those those upper levels. Now, if they can do it,

1151
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 3: it'll be great, but we just haven't seen many teams

1152
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: do it now. I will say a couple of years ago, Sauce,

1153
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: Garret Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, where the three today took. They

1154
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: had three first round picks, and two of those guys

1155
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: were offensive and defensive Rookie of the year.

1156
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: Sauce was a two time All Pro. So you get that.

1157
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: But man, that's a lot of picks, and so you

1158
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: can hoard them all trying to find a quarterback or whatever.

1159
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: But that's gonna be tough.

1160
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: But then they mess around and somehow won a game

1161
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: against the Browns that we're not gonna talk about, but

1162
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: they found a way to win the game. I just

1163
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: think for the Colts, this was badly saying I'm all in.

1164
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm going all in, not just for this year, but

1165
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: for the next few years. We'll figured got a way

1166
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: to keep Daniel Jones. But the weapons that they have,

1167
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: the firepart they have, they gonna be around for a minute.

1168
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was and frankly, you know, the ironic

1169
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: thing is Balorder has never really believed in running backs

1170
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, wide receivers, terbacks in the first round.

1171
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: Kind of philosophical thing going back to his time with

1172
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Angelo over in Chicago. And then he gives two

1173
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: first rounders for a corner. You know, that's the irony,

1174
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: But I think it's also a nod to the fact

1175
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: that he thinks his roster is where it needs to

1176
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: be and maybe the first round picks late in the

1177
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: twenties won't have as much value as getting a position

1178
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: they know for a fact they need badly. And Sharvari's

1179
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Ward is going to come back from concussion, so you're

1180
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: gonna have wardback, You're gonna have Kenny Moore, you're gonna

1181
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: have obviously, Sauce Gardner. I mean, man to go from

1182
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: where the Colts were to where they are right now,

1183
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: where this doesn't look like a flash in the pan.

1184
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: Provided Daniel Jones can take care of the football, the

1185
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Colts are going to be a really tough out once

1186
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: their secondary you know, gets healthy. I mean, I mean, look,

1187
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: well they're really tough out right now, regardless.

1188
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the only thing that you worried about

1189
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: By right, is the only thing that you worried about

1190
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 3: with them is them being healthy enough to take advantage of.

1191
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: The stuff that they have.

1192
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: And as Daniel Jones is really coming back to earth

1193
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: with the turnovers, can he manage those turnovers and not

1194
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: give the ball away? But they're good enough where they

1195
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: they can overcome it. Now, let's talk about quickly the

1196
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons. Michael Pennix didn't look great. And I know

1197
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: we're only in kind we're in year two, but it's

1198
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: kind of the end of his rookie season. What do

1199
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: you think about the former first round quarterback in Atlanta.

1200
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: He's right where I thought he'd be.

1201
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: I had him behind Nix and May and Caleb and Jayden.

1202
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: I wasn't as high on him as others.

1203
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: I thought that Ryan Gruff's system, and I thought he

1204
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: played really well in Washington. I was very bothered by

1205
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: three years where he was. You know, he had three

1206
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: seasons where he had seasoned Indian injuries that always concerned me.

1207
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: There was some problems with him throwing accurately when he

1208
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: got outside of the pocket on the run. He had

1209
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: really low completion ratings, which kind of bothered me. And

1210
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing right now. He was late on

1211
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: some throws yesterday and an out rolly through that it

1212
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: was a deep out and got there so late the

1213
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: receiver jumped caught it and he landed outside of the

1214
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: white so he was like way out.

1215
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, that's that's got to come out quicker.

1216
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: I look quickly. But you know, Drake London has Drake

1217
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: London has been good.

1218
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got some weapons over there. But for me,

1219
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Pennis isn't really unlocking anything. He's not doing anything that

1220
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: an average quarterback wouldn't do. And it's a shame because

1221
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: you've got Vijon over there, You've got Drake London. Pitt's

1222
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: still will flash and give you some you know, give

1223
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: you some looks here and there. Tyler Algiers done a

1224
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: nice job as a finisher when he gets inside the

1225
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: red zone. So I don't know. I'm just not feeling

1226
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: with with with Pinnis and he still needs time. Not

1227
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: saying give up on Pinis, but I got to start

1228
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: seeing some more flashes from Pinnis. I'm not seeing enough

1229
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: flashes right now.

1230
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 3: I thought that he would be doing a little more,

1231
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: just being able to kind of like down in lock

1232
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: it and give them Explosi development and whatever. He's showing

1233
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: flashes thought, of course the season just didn't have a

1234
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: great performance yesterday, and I think when you're Atlanta, like

1235
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: everyone kind of has to get it done. Now, not

1236
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: saying that a Raheem Morris's job is on the line,

1237
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: but I just know in this in this league.

1238
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: And you don't have a whole lot of time to

1239
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: kind of figure it out.

1240
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: Maybe you can turn around, maybe you can find his way,

1241
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: Maybe Zach Robinson can find a way to kind of

1242
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: integrate everything into the package. Because they're talented enough to

1243
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: get it done, and they're playing better on defense than

1244
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: we ever imagine. They let a game slip that they

1245
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: had they just needed to finish it out and they

1246
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: couldn't get it.

1247
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: They couldn't get it done.

1248
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: And I think with Penis it's really going to be

1249
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: about consistency. I mean that completion rate.

1250
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: It started in Washington's seventy six point nine in that game,

1251
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: then sixty two five against Buffalo, and then since then

1252
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: fifty five three, fifty nine to five, and then against

1253
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: the Colts forty two nine, then no third down conversions.

1254
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, it was a it was a rough game,

1255
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: and the Falcons, as you mentioned, wa better defensively than

1256
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: we thought. And I thought the Falcons were gonna end

1257
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: up being a serious threat to Tampa. But the Saints

1258
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: really good win beating out I was I was hoping

1259
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Carolina was kind of turning the corner. I'm cheering for them.

1260
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: I want to see them do well, but that was

1261
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: not a good one.

1262
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: They're losing that one at home.

1263
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: The Panthers, they finally get you excited about who they

1264
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: are and what they could be, then they lay in

1265
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: an egg, like the.

1266
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: NFL in a nutshell.

1267
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: This is why the NFL is is this way. Is

1268
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: any given Sunday is a real phrase that actually has meaning.

1269
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean just it just drives you crazy.

1270
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Or any given Thursday, or any given Sunday, any given Monday,

1271
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: or any given Saturday late in the season when we

1272
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: also have Saturday games general we all put together.

1273
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just drives you crazy because that should have

1274
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: been one where they they should I mean, you would

1275
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 3: think that they would be able to stack it together

1276
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 3: and started to get some wins. But that's the league, man,

1277
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: that's the league.

1278
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: Just crazy. But you know what else is the league,

1279
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: lan Z is in a league of his own.

1280
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you stepping in for the boys, chatting

1281
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: up with your boy, just talking about all those things.

1282
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: But you know what, I really get excited tomorrow. We

1283
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: got read what's coming on. He's will talking about the

1284
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 3: Ricky draft whatever.

1285
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: That look like.

1286
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't even know if my guy's gonna play, but

1287
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: no one cares, But I'm excited. Lance says, You're beginning

1288
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: to dig into this draft class and look at some

1289
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: of these dudes.

1290
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: And we may not have quarterbacks, but boy, there's some

1291
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: talent though.

1292
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll be looking at rets quarterback from Indiana sometime soon.

1293
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna hear a lot about that went

1294
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: over Penn State. I'm sure that's gonna come up on

1295
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it's gonna come up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to dig into Mendoze because

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here trying to figure out, like, man.

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Speaker 2: Is Mendoza for real? Are we for real?

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Speaker 4: We might be?

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see it's Ty Simpson for real, It's

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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson out? You really want to be that guy

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Speaker 1: who plays one year college football?

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Speaker 4: Come out?

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Speaker 1: Not a great success rate, that's all the stuff.

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Speaker 4: We'll get you down the road.

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Speaker 3: But hey, man so much man, Hey, this is mooda sticks.

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Speaker 3: I'm going Brooks this landesdy Until next time we'll catch

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Speaker 3: you with you