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Speaker 2: of the program on this Tuesday. That happens to be
Speaker 2: Paulie's birthday. Happy Birthday.
Speaker 3: He's got Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: Let's go, Hey, Hey, what's poll question for the final hour?
Speaker 4: Well, let's see, for the first two hours we add
Speaker 4: why does Trevor Lawrence get a criticism Hall pass right
Speaker 4: now about forty seven forty eight percent of.
Speaker 2: The audience have no idea why.
Speaker 4: Spillover from college has about thirty one percent of the vote.
Speaker 4: Feels like a star in urban Meyer dead last in
Speaker 4: that poll question.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean I can blame him for some things,
Speaker 2: but I can't blame him for you know, the last
Speaker 2: eight losses in a row that Trevor Lawrence has had
Speaker 2: dating back to last season. The Jags owner Shod Khn
Speaker 2: had this to stay last month, he said this last month.
Speaker 2: Winning now was the expectation. Make no mistake, this is
Speaker 2: the best team assembled by Jacksonville Jaguars ever, best players,
Speaker 2: best coaches. Most importantly, let's prove it by winning now. Whoops,
Speaker 2: now what happens here? Can't fire your quarterback? So oh,
Speaker 2: we know what usually happens after this. Hopefully Doug Peterson
Speaker 2: is able to right the ship here after what has
Speaker 2: been a mess. Here is the Jacksonville head coach. After
Speaker 2: being blown out in Buffalo.
Speaker 5: There has to be changes, whether it's play design, personnel, everything,
Speaker 5: everything's on the table. Let's let's call it right. And
Speaker 5: those are all things that we have to you know,
Speaker 5: I have to look at we have to look as
Speaker 5: a staff and then make the make the adjustments. We
Speaker 5: have to take a look at injury. You know, tonight
Speaker 5: we had some guys injured. It could be you know,
Speaker 5: it could be moved that way. You know, it could
Speaker 5: be performance. You know, it's all things we have to
Speaker 5: evaluate as we move forward.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how many guys you had injured.
Speaker 2: I mean they fielded the team I checked. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Buffalo has suffered quite a few injuries as well. Jaggs
Speaker 2: at the Texans and then they'll have a couple of
Speaker 2: games in London and they're the Bears. As for the Bills, undefeated,
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen is saying easy there.
Speaker 6: Want one game at a time.
Speaker 7: You don't when you don't win a super Bowl getting
Speaker 7: the playoffs with three games, and I think this team
Speaker 7: understands that. Like I said, well, we'll watch this film
Speaker 7: and put this behind us as quickly as we can.
Speaker 7: And you know, like I said, we have a really
Speaker 7: good team that we're going into and you know, we
Speaker 7: gotta be ready.
Speaker 2: I like it he's putting the brakes on this. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: but I do think the comment that he said, hey,
Speaker 2: it's nice to have fun again and not have players
Speaker 2: worry about stats. That to me, that says a lot.
Speaker 2: That says a lot about the previous years, says a
Speaker 2: lot about this team, as they're not worried about the
Speaker 2: number one guy wanting the ball. I'm going to read
Speaker 2: between the lines here and say that's probably a dig
Speaker 2: at Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay, going back to the Jaguars, they made it,
Speaker 3: not been physically hurt. They might have any feelings hurt,
Speaker 3: but like, where were the injuries last night? Like who
Speaker 3: got hurt? You're right, it might have been feelings there.
Speaker 3: But I thought, and I said this yesterday, I had
Speaker 3: to get a sneaky suspicion that maybe Jacksonville wins this game.
Speaker 3: That went away quickly.
Speaker 2: I wasn't done with my first beer, and I went, ep,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to apologize for that on the program.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna play Are You In or You Out?
Speaker 2: It debuted last week to critical success. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: mean it was really It's one of those where other
Speaker 2: shows are probably going to pick up on this. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, there was a great moment last night,
Speaker 2: not for Trevor Lawrence when Demorrow Hamlin had the interception,
Speaker 2: like that was pretty cool moment there, certainly for us,
Speaker 2: but you know for his teammates, Buffalo fans, with everything
Speaker 2: that he went through, they went through that emotional rollercoaster
Speaker 2: and then he gets an interception I think pressed into
Speaker 2: service because of injuries.
Speaker 8: Yes, I did see on the social media last night.
Speaker 8: It was a sports website, popular sports website, and everybody
Speaker 8: loved that Tomorrow Hamlin got that pick last night. Even
Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence probably wouldn't be that bothered. Look, I'm sure
Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence is very sympathetic to Tomorrow Hamlin's physical situation. I
Speaker 8: don't think he was like, oh, you know what, that's
Speaker 8: a nice thing that he picked me up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, send flowers or candy or something not
Speaker 2: not a pass. Well, yes, all right, time to play.
Speaker 2: Are you in or you're out?
Speaker 9: Dan?
Speaker 8: It's a complex game.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, I need some music. A little louder,
Speaker 2: A little louder now little so okay, all right, here
Speaker 2: we go. Are you in or you're out?
Speaker 10: Dan?
Speaker 8: It's a complex game. I'll say a statement. You say
Speaker 8: whether you're in the only other option is you're out.
Speaker 8: There's no other options, Pritty.
Speaker 2: And what does that mean being in or out?
Speaker 8: You know what, it's a good point. We'll get to
Speaker 8: that in a minute. Here we go around the room.
Speaker 8: Jadeen Daniels is going to be a great NFL quarterback,
Speaker 8: Todd in, I.
Speaker 2: Believe, Uh yeah, I'll go in. I'll jump in on that.
Speaker 11: Marvin in Canton, whoa, whoa marmon jumping the gun because
Speaker 11: the follow up is Jaden Daniels Hall of Famer question
Speaker 11: Mark Wow.
Speaker 2: So Marvin's already in with Jaden Daniels working on his
Speaker 2: bust as we speak. Todd, Jade and Daniels, Hof.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna say yes in in Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're very lenient on this Tuesday Seatan in Canton.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a hater. That's gonna be tough, though.
Speaker 2: Hence I'm gonna say I'm gonna say out. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say I'm out on Hall of Fame. I'm in on
Speaker 2: him being a great quarterback. This is going to come
Speaker 2: back to bite you guys in seventeen years. Here we go.
Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence is not going to work out. If you're
Speaker 8: in that means you agree with that.
Speaker 2: Statement, Todd in in that he's not going to work out.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not going to get that much better, very.
Speaker 2: Complex, Okay, So in then he's not gonna work What
Speaker 2: do we mean by workout? In three years?
Speaker 8: We're talking about his career as a disappointment.
Speaker 2: Will he still be there in hair retail? Yeah? Will
Speaker 2: he be there in three years contractually? Okay, well no,
Speaker 2: not necessarily, Todd, You're out.
Speaker 10: I am in with the statement that he's going to
Speaker 10: be in trouble in the next few years.
Speaker 2: He's not going to work. In with the statement that
Speaker 2: he's out right, and good luck in trying to book
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence in future.
Speaker 10: I talked about his wonderful locks and his Uh so
Speaker 10: that's something.
Speaker 2: Connor, Wow, I understand locks. I underst in here.
Speaker 4: Yes see, I think in three years he'll still be there.
Speaker 4: But I think ultimately his career is it's we're going
Speaker 4: to be talking about it as being disappointed because you're
Speaker 4: never going to live up to how high the expectations were.
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm in on him being out as well.
Speaker 8: Mary, I'm in also, all right, here we go the
Speaker 8: next one, also Jaguars related. The Jaguars should reach out
Speaker 8: to Bill Belichick if this keeps going poorly. If you're
Speaker 8: in your pro Belichick for.
Speaker 2: The Jacks, I would say yes, Yes, Let's say they
Speaker 2: win one out of the next three. Are you in?
Speaker 2: That means you're in for Doug Peterson being out to
Speaker 2: bring Bill Belichick in. Yeah, I would be in on that. Yes.
Speaker 2: He can say yes is not an appropriate answer in this,
Speaker 2: then it's in or out, all right? I'm yes. Saying
Speaker 2: yes is not yes? Is in? Yes?
Speaker 8: Is anybody? Is anybody out on Belichick being tires kicked
Speaker 8: by the Jaguars.
Speaker 10: I'm out. I don't picture that happening. I don't see the.
Speaker 2: Jackson gill and do well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tires getting kicked, sure, heck yeah, but him actually
Speaker 4: going there.
Speaker 8: It's almost tire kicking season. We'll keep an eye on that.
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Speaker 8: a couple more. The Bills will disappoint in January.
Speaker 2: Again, What does that mean? I'm in.
Speaker 8: They will make the playoffs and not get to the
Speaker 8: super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm in on that with a quick in. I'm okay,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what disappointment mean. Let's say they
Speaker 2: got to the a FC title game. Is that a
Speaker 2: disappointment if they lose? Yes, like every losses, Well, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm they're going to disappoint because they're not going to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. So yes, in I'm I'm in on them. Disappointing.
Speaker 8: Right, It's like when you test negative or a disease
Speaker 8: and it's negative. This this has a tinge of that too.
Speaker 2: But like when somebody says to me, hey, do you
Speaker 2: mind if I get a picture with you? And if
Speaker 2: I say yes, then it sounds like I'm mind what
Speaker 2: you do a picture? Yes, it happened yesterday, And mind
Speaker 2: if I get a picture? And I go I don't
Speaker 2: know how to answer that. He goes, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I go, well, if I say yes, then it sounds
Speaker 2: like I'm mine. He goes, can I get a picture?
Speaker 2: I go yes, So you were in I was in
Speaker 2: get you know, getting a picture? Say let's do it?
Speaker 10: Why not?
Speaker 2: Thank you to I got two more? All right, here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow's hairstyle is mostly to blame for the oh
Speaker 8: and three.
Speaker 2: Start and very in I'm I'm out on that, oh damn,
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna blame it on his hair.
Speaker 8: Are you kidding? The guy had fantastic hair. He had
Speaker 8: fantastic hair going back to Ohio State. He messes with
Speaker 8: his hair.
Speaker 2: What why? Why? I think it's the I think it's
Speaker 2: the defense that is the reason, not his hair partially them. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think it's also debatable. Joe Burrow's last haircut was great.
Speaker 8: Oh oh wow, hold on, I'm out on that.
Speaker 2: It's also debatable and great haircut. Really, you know, his
Speaker 2: wrist surgery might have something to do with this, not
Speaker 2: his hair. Fair point. Those are all fair points.
Speaker 8: I stick Okay, last one, I want you to kick
Speaker 8: this around a little bit. Now that the Oakland A's
Speaker 8: are leaving Oakland, longtime A's fans should find a new
Speaker 8: team to root for going forward. Big topic.
Speaker 2: Sure, now I'm in on that.
Speaker 10: And they were abandoned.
Speaker 2: Well now they go to Sacramento unless you're going to
Speaker 2: root for them in Sacramento.
Speaker 8: So you're you're an as fans. You giving your whole
Speaker 8: life to them, you've supported them when they didn't spend
Speaker 8: any money, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But Paulie, this is the really, this is the city
Speaker 2: of Oakland that I feel bad for because Golden State's
Speaker 2: not there. The Raiders aren't there. Now, the A's aren't there.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do if you're a sports
Speaker 2: fan in Oakland that you've lost your team? Now, granted
Speaker 2: Golden State is just in San Francisco, but still they
Speaker 2: left Oakland. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's the thing that I've really like come
Speaker 4: around to think about with especially a team like Oakland,
Speaker 4: if you're if you're leaving.
Speaker 2: There's so much civic.
Speaker 4: Pride sometimes wrapped up in fandom, not necessarily in a
Speaker 4: lot of sports, Like you could live in Connecticut and
Speaker 4: be a fan of the Patriots, but for some places
Speaker 4: it's like, no, this is like part of our identity,
Speaker 4: this is who we are.
Speaker 2: And then you're just gonna.
Speaker 4: Leave because we're not giving you enough money for a
Speaker 4: new stadium and you're gonna take your billions of dollars
Speaker 4: somewhere else. I'm out. I'm one hundred percent out. I'm
Speaker 4: like burn the ground as they leave. I'm out.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of you sorry, go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 8: Point I think there's a lot of A's fans that
Speaker 8: agree with this because that faux letter by their owner.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, here's all the ways I try to stay here,
Speaker 8: which worth it's all fake. He's trying to blame others
Speaker 8: on his way out.
Speaker 2: Look, I think he made a great business decision to
Speaker 2: go to Vegas. I get it, I understand it, but
Speaker 2: don't make it seem like you did everything possible. You're
Speaker 2: a billionaire. Could you have made concessions if you really
Speaker 2: wanted to stay? And then he says, I wish that
Speaker 2: I could talk to each and every one of you,
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if he went to those games, you
Speaker 2: probably could talk to each and every one of those
Speaker 2: fans who were there. That's seven hundred and twenty two people.
Speaker 2: I think you could walk over and say hello to everybody,
Speaker 2: have a meet and greet, and say I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4: Yes, set I know that this is going to sound
Speaker 4: like I'm living in a dream world, But but there
Speaker 4: used to be a thing where when you owned a team,
Speaker 4: it was a privilege, and that was a gift that
Speaker 4: you were giving to the community. I'm crazy rich, and
Speaker 4: this is my gift to the community. It wasn't just
Speaker 4: business to milk every single cent out of the community.
Speaker 4: There was a time I know that we look now
Speaker 4: and we're like, yeah, look, our team is worth three
Speaker 4: billion dollars. That's awesome, isn't it. Yeah, not really for you.
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything for you. It's just more leverage
Speaker 4: for the owner to be like, well, unless you guys
Speaker 4: phoning up even more of your cash, we're out of here.
Speaker 4: There used to be this thing where it was like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're doing this for the community, not just to take
Speaker 4: every possible dollar we can, whether it's parking or then
Speaker 4: a new charge for your seat and then a new
Speaker 4: super expensive jersey and then a new thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 4: We don't have to look at this every time as
Speaker 4: like hey, great business by them, though, Man, screw you guys.
Speaker 4: What you already have billions of dollars you've already won
Speaker 4: in business.
Speaker 2: And then you have those PSLs. Hey what a great investment.
Speaker 2: No it's not, but you're right about that would be
Speaker 2: something that if if you build an owner a new stadium,
Speaker 2: that there is something attached to that that protects the city,
Speaker 2: just something you know that there's something in writing that
Speaker 2: there is going to be a working together with this.
Speaker 2: I mean there's no other team like Lambeau with the Packers.
Speaker 2: You know that that's the community that owns that team,
Speaker 2: and I love that, but you know that'll never happen again.
Speaker 2: These owners are like, how do I squeeze everything I
Speaker 2: possibly get if you don't give me a new stadium
Speaker 2: Saint Louis, We're moving to LA And then you either
Speaker 2: have to decide do you a pony up? You know
Speaker 2: the mill rate's going to be You're right, gets disappointing
Speaker 2: because they have that they have the ultimate leverage of well, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm trying.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauline, one quick follow up question on this. If
Speaker 8: you're a longtime A's fan and you're you're out on them,
Speaker 8: you're so burned? Do you go with the San Francisco Giants?
Speaker 8: Is that too tough to do? Or do you go elsewhere?
Speaker 8: Like far away? Something novel?
Speaker 2: I would have a heart. I would think if I'm
Speaker 2: an A's fan, I'm not gonna be a Giants fan,
Speaker 2: and vice versa. I think, let's say the Giants left
Speaker 2: in your would you be a Jets fan? And the
Speaker 2: answer is you wouldn't be, Like, I can't imagine that happening.
Speaker 2: It's you know, there's lines that are drawn and then
Speaker 2: that's it all right, let me take a break. Albert Breer,
Speaker 2: the Monday Morning quarterback, is going to join us. Coming
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Speaker 2: the Monday Morning quarterback. On Tuesday morning, Albert Brier will
Speaker 2: join us. I've got updated regular season in totals. The
Speaker 2: Bills over under is now eleven and a half, the
Speaker 2: Jags over under six and a half, the Bengals eight
Speaker 2: and a half, and the Commanders are seven and a half.
Speaker 2: So the Bills at eleven and a half, the Chiefs
Speaker 2: are thirteen and a half. In case you're wondering, Ravens
Speaker 2: Niners ten and a half, and the Vikings over under
Speaker 2: is ten and a half. We'll get to your phone calls.
Speaker 2: Coming up. He's Albert Brier, the Monday Morning quarterback, the
Speaker 2: senior NFL reporter. Always great to see him. Let's start
Speaker 2: with a state of the Union with each of the teams.
Speaker 2: Last night let me start with the undefeated Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: What do you think so far?
Speaker 13: I think Josh Allen's probably meant look as really early,
Speaker 13: but Josh Allen's probably the MVP of the league for
Speaker 13: three weeks, and I think it's a result of and
Speaker 13: I don't want to make this like Josh versus Stefan Diggs,
Speaker 13: but I can remember, you know, I can remember Tom
Speaker 13: Brady winning an MVP the year they trade away Randy Moss,
Speaker 13: and I can remember talking to Brady about that they
Speaker 13: traded for Dion Branch right after, and it was like
Speaker 13: like it wasn't like he was happy to see Randy go,
Speaker 13: but it was all right, Like now I can kind
Speaker 13: of just go out there and play point guard and
Speaker 13: all five guys are alive on every route and it
Speaker 13: was sort of freeing to him. And I think you
Speaker 13: can see that with Josh now right, like where he
Speaker 13: doesn't have to look over every three or four plays
Speaker 13: to make sure that the number one guy.
Speaker 6: Has got the ball, so he's playing point guard.
Speaker 13: And when you add that to his other worldly ability
Speaker 13: to make off schedule plays to run to get the
Speaker 13: ball down field, I think you're seeing a really complete
Speaker 13: player now. And I think you gotta give Sean McDermott
Speaker 13: credit for the job they've done on defense too.
Speaker 6: Like their defensive fronts really.
Speaker 13: Impressive with that Oliver and Greg Russou is playing really well,
Speaker 13: but that back seven, like no Matt Milano Tradevius White's gone,
Speaker 13: they lost Michael Hyde and Jordan Poyer and so to
Speaker 13: be playing as well as they are in the back
Speaker 13: end of their defense in the back seven, I think
Speaker 13: it's a real credit to the front office, to Sean McDermott,
Speaker 13: to Bobby Babbage, to all the people that have kind
Speaker 13: of contributed to developing young talent there because they lost
Speaker 13: a lot of guys on the back end of that defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a couple of great points there
Speaker 2: that you don't have that number one receiver to go
Speaker 2: to because RG three joined this last hour and he
Speaker 2: said that Mahomes maybe became a better quarterback when Tyreek
Speaker 2: Hill left because he was able to kind of distribute
Speaker 2: wherever he wanted to. You don't have to keep somebody
Speaker 2: happy all the time. And then talking about that defense,
Speaker 2: I know we're portraying Buffalo as kind of a wounded
Speaker 2: animal of they're not that good. They're kind of like
Speaker 2: playing a little bit better than we thought. And we
Speaker 2: said this at the beginning of the year because they
Speaker 2: lost so many players, Maybe we really realize the value
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen if the team is successful that he's
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the star power that other teams have.
Speaker 2: Therefore he's probably going to get extra credit.
Speaker 14: Is it not exactly the situation Mahomes was in two
Speaker 14: years ago when they traded Ti right, like, and now
Speaker 14: all of a sudden, I mean, and it's the reality
Speaker 14: of having a quarterback on such a big contract, right
Speaker 14: is that you have to build a different way.
Speaker 13: And generally it takes a year or two after the
Speaker 13: guy gets paid to sort of feel the effects of that.
Speaker 13: But you know what ends up happening, Dan is like, okay, Like,
Speaker 13: so now at the top of our roster, we can
Speaker 13: pay a few less guys and we're gonna have to
Speaker 13: fill holes through the draft instead of filling them, you know,
Speaker 13: with a five or ten million dollar free agent. And
Speaker 13: you know, I think Mahomes has been awesome the last
Speaker 13: two years, despite you know, the revolving door at receiver
Speaker 13: that they've dealt with, and he really showed his value
Speaker 13: in how they played the last couple of years, he
Speaker 13: like bought time for a young defense to really grow
Speaker 13: up and come into its own. And you know, I
Speaker 13: think we're seeing the same sort of dynamic in Buffalo.
Speaker 6: Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Now, I know that nobody wants to say it, Travis
Speaker 2: Kelce doesn't look good. Yeah, and it you know, he's
Speaker 2: a given.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Granted he might be almost sliding into that Gronk role
Speaker 2: of don't worry about the regular season, just worry about
Speaker 2: the postseason. Can you factor in his off season? Should
Speaker 2: that be factored in with him not playing? Is it
Speaker 2: fair to do that?
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: I mean, I you know, I think some of these guys, yeah,
Speaker 6: I think he is.
Speaker 13: I mean and I you know, one thing that was
Speaker 13: really interesting and talking to Chiefs people in the summer
Speaker 13: was like, he is a guy who kind of works
Speaker 13: himself into shape. They were over the moon with the
Speaker 13: way he was working over the summer. He didn't miss
Speaker 13: a single practice and they tried to give him vet
Speaker 13: days while they were up.
Speaker 6: In Saint Joe, Missouri at their training camp.
Speaker 13: One of the few teams that still goes away and
Speaker 13: lives like the dorm life, you know, and like they
Speaker 13: tried to give him days off and they tried to
Speaker 13: pace him, and he didn't want it, and you know,
Speaker 13: so he really pushed him, pushed himself through training camp.
Speaker 6: I think Kelsey at the phase of his career. And
Speaker 6: we saw this last year too, Like I.
Speaker 13: Don't think he looked the same in September and October
Speaker 13: and November of last year, and like he just had
Speaker 13: a way of finding that's something he needed for December
Speaker 13: and January and February.
Speaker 6: And like his knowledge of the game.
Speaker 13: You know, his experience really came into play when they
Speaker 13: got into the playoffs and he got what he needed
Speaker 13: to make the big plays in the end. And I
Speaker 13: do think that they feel like they feel like they're
Speaker 13: better around him this year too, Like Rashie Rice, you know,
Speaker 13: in year two has looked like he's taken a pretty
Speaker 13: big step. Xavier Worthy adds something they haven't had the
Speaker 13: last couple of years.
Speaker 6: On offense.
Speaker 13: The hope was that they were going to get a
Speaker 13: Hollywood brown back and the whole vision for the offense
Speaker 13: Dan and this has been the vision for Brett Veach
Speaker 13: and for Andy Reid going back to March and April
Speaker 13: was it's sort of like the you know, you got
Speaker 13: the two guys in the outside who can fly down
Speaker 13: the field in Hollywood and Xavier Worthy, and they're opening
Speaker 13: up space underneath for Kelsey and Rice to have all
Speaker 13: this space to operate. And obviously that hasn't really come
Speaker 13: to fruition because Hollywood has been hurt and because Xavier's
Speaker 13: a rookie's still learning his way. But that could be
Speaker 13: another thing that like if Hollywood can find his way
Speaker 13: back on the field, and there's no sure thing, but
Speaker 13: if Hollywood does find his way back onto the field
Speaker 13: and Xavier comes of age a little bit, you still
Speaker 13: could see that vision come to life, which I think
Speaker 13: would help which I think ultimately would help Kelsey a lot.
Speaker 2: Stay to the union for the Commanders is what.
Speaker 13: Well, you got to be really happy with el quarterback
Speaker 13: played right, Like, I think that they picked the right
Speaker 13: guy out of that crew that went to Top Golf in April. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I think Jaden looks so comfortable. I remember talking to
Speaker 13: a couple of their coaches, talking to d h and
Speaker 13: Cliff and some of the guys back in the summer
Speaker 13: the day I was at their camp, and I said
Speaker 13: to them, like the word that comes to mind watching
Speaker 13: him practice this is just practice. Was how smooth he looks,
Speaker 13: never looked out of place right like, and just looked
Speaker 13: like he was doing the right things consistently and getting
Speaker 13: the ball where it needed to go. And everything looks
Speaker 13: just so fluid with him, and I think you're seeing
Speaker 13: that now, and I think this is something we sort
Speaker 13: of have to remember with, you know, with Caleb. Jaden
Speaker 13: was in college for five years. Jaden was a multi
Speaker 13: year starter at two different major programs in two different
Speaker 13: major conferences.
Speaker 6: He's seen a.
Speaker 13: Lot and he just I think as a result of
Speaker 13: all of that experience, and we saw us with Brock Party,
Speaker 13: who was another high volume guy in college, right, is
Speaker 13: that like Jaden Daniels looks like he's prepared to be
Speaker 13: a professional football player in every single way. And you know, Caleb,
Speaker 13: Caleb's two years younger than Jayden and had doesn't have
Speaker 13: the amount of spirits that Jaden has. And I think
Speaker 13: that that's sort of shown. You know, Jaden looks to
Speaker 13: me like the type of guy who has already got
Speaker 13: a lot of stuff figured out for a rookie. And
Speaker 13: I'm almost as impressed with like the things he was
Speaker 13: doing before the big throat to Terry mclum down the sideline,
Speaker 13: like knowing when to pull the d ball down and scramble,
Speaker 13: knowing when to.
Speaker 6: Check it down.
Speaker 13: It just he looks like he's got incredible command for
Speaker 13: a rookie. And I think the other thing that sticks
Speaker 13: out about the Commanders it's just how hard they're playing.
Speaker 13: Like if you've been watching football as long as you
Speaker 13: and I have, you can see it, like the energy
Speaker 13: a team plays with right when they're really bought in
Speaker 13: and they really know what they're doing. And when you
Speaker 13: see it from a first year coach's team, I think
Speaker 13: it really means something. And we're seeing that with dan
Speaker 13: Quinn's Commanders right now. They still have major holes, I mean,
Speaker 13: and that's the thing that's most remarkable about this, right,
Speaker 13: Like they still are going to have to address the
Speaker 13: offensive tackle position. They still need like a war Daddy
Speaker 13: edge rusher, They still have a lot to sort through
Speaker 13: a corner. Those are three premium positions that they really
Speaker 13: have some problems to sort through at right. But I mean,
Speaker 13: they got the quarterback right, and everybody's playing hard and
Speaker 13: they've been able to manage those weaknesses, which is really
Speaker 13: hard to do.
Speaker 6: I think the arrow is pointing way up on the
Speaker 6: Commanders right now.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Albert Brier, the Monday Morning quarterback. Would
Speaker 2: you rather be a Bengal fan or a Jaguar fan? Today?
Speaker 13: Bengal fan, because I know it's going to work out.
Speaker 13: I mean, Joe Burrow played fine, you know, Like I
Speaker 13: know people are going to make this about Burrow and
Speaker 13: the wrist and maybe even his like his frosted tips there.
Speaker 13: But I think Joe has played better week to week
Speaker 13: right like, and he's knocked the rust off. Joe Burrow
Speaker 13: is going to be Joe Burrow. We saw I think
Speaker 13: a very real version of Jamar.
Speaker 6: Chase last night.
Speaker 13: He looked great too. Higgins is going to get more comfortable,
Speaker 13: so they're going to score points. My concern with the
Speaker 13: Bengals is on defense and can the defense get up
Speaker 13: to a level that they don't need to be top
Speaker 13: of the league, but can they be a top ten
Speaker 13: or fifteen defense, which is what they've been under Lua
Speaker 13: Narumo the last few years. And I think a lot
Speaker 13: of that's going to be come down to being able
Speaker 13: to generate a Prett pass rush and getting Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 13: back to his level and figuring out the corner position.
Speaker 13: I mean, the guy who was in coverage on that
Speaker 13: McLaurin touchdown was Dax Hill, who's really a safety playing corner.
Speaker 13: So like that, I think there are some real concerns.
Speaker 13: But in the end, like I think because of the offense,
Speaker 13: because of Joe Burrow Chase Higgins, I think they're gonna
Speaker 13: be there in the end. The Jaguars feel to me
Speaker 13: like I just I mean, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 13: like their core players are good, not great. And I
Speaker 13: think that that's sometimes in the NFL, where you can
Speaker 13: get yourself in trouble or like the highest paid players
Speaker 13: on your team or the highest drafted players on your
Speaker 13: team are just pretty good and not great. And I'm
Speaker 13: talking about like Christian Kirk and Tyson Campbell and Cam Robinson,
Speaker 13: like they're good players, but are those like the core
Speaker 13: pieces of a champion? And those three guys I mentioned
Speaker 13: are all very highly paid, right, So it just feels
Speaker 13: to me like a team that doesn't have like this
Speaker 13: real strength to hang his hat on, and it needs
Speaker 13: Trevor Lawrence to be a superstar and he just isn't
Speaker 13: one right now, you know, So it feels to me
Speaker 13: a little bit like a franchise that maybe in for
Speaker 13: another reset, you know. And I think they've got three
Speaker 13: very big weeks coming up here. I believe their next
Speaker 13: three weeks, they've got two division games, right, I think
Speaker 13: they play the Bears, but then they also played the
Speaker 13: Colts and the Texans. The Texans are this week, the
Speaker 13: Texans coming off of that loss, and then they go
Speaker 13: to London and play the Patriots, and that's obviously like
Speaker 13: a big game.
Speaker 6: For ownership going over there.
Speaker 13: So if you have a winless team going over.
Speaker 6: There, you know, like.
Speaker 13: These billionaires don't like being embarrassed. So I just it
Speaker 13: feels like there's a lot on the line for a
Speaker 13: lot of people in that organization over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: So coaches in trouble flirting with trouble, Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 13: And I I like they're just a sneaky one with
Speaker 13: Belichick for me, you know, I just like Tony Kahan
Speaker 13: has a really strong relationship with Bill Belichick, Shod's son, Tony,
Speaker 13: you know, to the point where so when they hired
Speaker 13: Doug Moron as you know, the full time when they
Speaker 13: removed the interim tag, what was that seventeen I think
Speaker 13: twenty seventeen. Right, that was largely on the advice of
Speaker 13: Bill Belichick to do it. So Bill's had the ear
Speaker 13: of ownership in that place for a while now, and
Speaker 13: I just wonder if that's not rattling around in the
Speaker 13: heads of ownership there now, especially when you're building a
Speaker 13: new stadium, you know, and not a new stadium, but
Speaker 13: you're renovating your stadium, and now you know, you've got
Speaker 13: like sponsorship to sell, you've got suites to sell, like
Speaker 13: all of that stuff, right, you know, do you need
Speaker 13: some more credibility? It's just there are some things that
Speaker 13: line up there where I wouldn't totally rule out I
Speaker 13: wouldn't totally rule out that as a viable possibility for
Speaker 13: Belichick in twenty twenty five. And he does have a
Speaker 13: place I think right down the street I guess right
Speaker 13: down nine ninety five there in South Florida too, so
Speaker 13: that wouldn't hurt either.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, Albert, Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 6: All right, Thanks DP.
Speaker 2: That's Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback. Hmm. Bill Belichick in
Speaker 2: the on deck circle. Perhaps a couple of phone calls here,
Speaker 2: Let's see Alex in Utah Hey, Alex, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 15: Dan, good to finally make it on the show.
Speaker 9: So I know this is a little bit out of
Speaker 9: left field, but you know, a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 9: you had the grand reveal of Shane Irving, and it's
Speaker 9: pretty gratifying to see, you know.
Speaker 16: The face.
Speaker 9: The face definitely matched what I had an envision based
Speaker 9: on the voice. And you know, with James in Virginia,
Speaker 9: it's you know a little bit different, and I'm with Marv.
Speaker 9: I still kind of feel like I want confirmation. And
Speaker 9: so I'm wondering if Fritzy can schedule a call with James,
Speaker 9: a zoom call with James and Virginia, just so that
Speaker 9: we can definitively say, you know, the voice matches the face.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll work on that, Paulie or Marvin. Is there
Speaker 2: a way that we can get James to zoom call.
Speaker 2: We don't need a zoom call. We needed twenty three
Speaker 2: and meters. Yeah, I didn't. I still every time he called, Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: happy black History. Hey James, what's uping man? Call my wife?
Speaker 3: You know a couple of black calls Jeff and Detroit, James, Virginia,
Speaker 3: Oh black dude named James that works at UPS. Oh
Speaker 3: he got a good job.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, James in Virginia joins us on the program.
Speaker 2: Good morning, James, Good on, gentlemen.
Speaker 16: Happy Tuesday, d DNA, Salute the commanders. Man, this great,
Speaker 16: great commentary this morning.
Speaker 17: Man.
Speaker 16: Love the RG three man seventy six yards to the house.
Speaker 16: Always electrifying man, And I love it the way he
Speaker 16: talked about Washington, So glad I called in yesterday and
Speaker 16: said that they were gonna win. Man, Wow, it was
Speaker 16: just crazy. Uh Joe Burrowes only let them up three
Speaker 16: twenty four and three TVs. But who saw thirty eight
Speaker 16: points from the Washington Commanders. Jaden Daniels Jayden five is
Speaker 16: a live twenty one or twenty three, two fifty four
Speaker 16: two tds thirty nine on the ground with a touny.
Speaker 16: Seven receivers touched the ball, including the offensive lineman Trent
Speaker 16: Scott going to his best receiver in the NFL, Terry
Speaker 16: McLaurin Optimus Prime for one of the sweetest touchdowns that
Speaker 16: you'll see. Four catches, one hundred yard man.
Speaker 2: James, James, James, would you do a twenty three and mes.
Speaker 9: For us three percent?
Speaker 16: Italian. My brother fifty three percent italian, already already checked
Speaker 16: it out. Man, Marvin, is.
Speaker 3: A question here, James our James a Thanksgiving time sweet
Speaker 3: potato pie or pumpkin pie.
Speaker 16: Oh I'm pumpkin pile all the way.
Speaker 17: Man.
Speaker 2: It's true. Yeah, he is white. It's true. That's confidential, James, James.
Speaker 2: Next time, we're gonna have you zoom in. Okay, so
Speaker 2: we can let we can let our audience see James
Speaker 2: in Virginia. Can you do that?
Speaker 16: I think that would be wonderful. Man, I would love
Speaker 16: I would love that. One last thing, DP. Happy birthday,
Speaker 16: Pauli p Man, Happy birthday. It's your birthday. Yay for
Speaker 16: your birthday. Man, y'all have a great day, gentlemen, Seluca commanders.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, James in Virginia driving his ups truck. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. Last call for phone calls, What
Speaker 2: we learn, what's in store tomorrow to day in sports history.
Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls.
Speaker 17: What we learn?
Speaker 2: What's in store? Tomorrow, Tommy John is going to join
Speaker 2: us on the program. Be Tommy. If Tommy John Surgery
Speaker 2: Fame will join us, you know, he should be known
Speaker 2: for I think two hundred and eighty eight career wins.
Speaker 2: I think most people wouldn't even have any idea how
Speaker 2: many wins Tommy John had in his major league career.
Speaker 2: I think it's two eighty eight or somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: But he's known as Tommy John of Tommy John Surgery. Yes, Paul, But.
Speaker 8: If he was just a really good picture, he'd be
Speaker 8: mixed in with all the really good pictures of the
Speaker 8: seventies and eighties, and he wouldn't have a hook Like
Speaker 8: everyone's heard that phrase before. And then I think people
Speaker 8: know the phrase, but they don't know the person. So
Speaker 8: maybe they'll look at the person a little. You know,
Speaker 8: he's got a weird hook of fame. But he didn't
Speaker 8: get in the Hall of Fame. His elbow should be Yes.
Speaker 8: They should put his arm in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10: Yes, passed day.
Speaker 2: Yes, then he'll join us on the You should induct
Speaker 2: his arm. His bust would be his arm. Okay, last
Speaker 2: call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store? Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: All of that coming up. Let me get to uh
Speaker 2: Michael in Nashville. Hey, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 2: Thanks for holding shit?
Speaker 15: Sorry? Whoa sorry sorry sorry A quick best and worst
Speaker 15: of the weekend. Worst is I got plenty fasty, I
Speaker 15: just from running a bunch, So you and any of
Speaker 15: the day as suggestions of how that gets better. Best
Speaker 15: of the weekend. I live in Nashville on Broadway and
Speaker 15: I got to take a selfie with Keith Urban in
Speaker 15: front of the entire concert.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, Yeah, Keith Urban, My good buddy. I think
Speaker 2: we're out on Keith Urban, aren't we?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: I'm not yeah, no, no, no. He was friendly to me, Hey,
Speaker 2: but wasn't he? He was really mean to two a
Speaker 2: days at American Idol.
Speaker 16: That.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a bit dismissive.
Speaker 4: I believe it was. That'll be a no for me.
Speaker 4: So now we're I'm out on Keith Urban. Oh man,
Speaker 4: how did you bring that up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Two days when he auditioned for American Idol, and
Speaker 2: I think j LO was mildly interested. Who was at
Speaker 2: Harry Connick Junior? Maybe mildly interested? And then Keith Urman
Speaker 2: was very dismissive and then was just the hammer on top.
Speaker 2: She was not into it. I thought she was in
Speaker 2: the beginning. That's why I said he should have had
Speaker 2: a different song if he's if he would have, if
Speaker 2: he would have sung I liked big butts and I
Speaker 2: cannot acoustically. By the way, Yes, an acoustical version he
Speaker 2: would have. He would have been up there with William Hung.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow is that is that a compliment?
Speaker 17: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, well nobody remembers two days now, they would have
Speaker 2: remembered him if he did that on American idol Uh
Speaker 2: Dylan in California, High Dill.
Speaker 18: Morning, DP, Dan Ets. I just want to say, wow,
Speaker 18: what a bad night last night for jungle Cats. Jayden
Speaker 18: comes out on top and the battles former LSU High
Speaker 18: and QBS Joe Burrow kind of looks a little like Ellen,
Speaker 18: Ja Jenners and a boy. Dan Hot take that Jayden
Speaker 18: Daniels is already a more polished passer than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 18: And also a shout out to my dad post surgery.
Speaker 18: He's a UCSF right now. Hope him well, wishes for him,
Speaker 18: bully you guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Dyl. Dylan brought some Ellen degenerous and a
Speaker 2: boy band for Joe Burrow. How many times have we
Speaker 2: heard that Big John in Charlotte? Hi, Big John, Good
Speaker 2: morning Dan.
Speaker 17: I'm six six two eighty eight. I have a comparison
Speaker 17: to the tiny game that you were talking about last week.
Speaker 17: In June of twenty seventeen, I went to Cincinnati. I'm
Speaker 17: a Saint Louis Cardinal fan. The Caris were playing the
Speaker 17: Reds and on June sixth, twenty seventeen, Scooter Jeanette hit
Speaker 17: four home runs and a single in one game. He
Speaker 17: had ten RBIs on seventeen total bases, just like er'cannie
Speaker 17: had last weight.
Speaker 2: So that yeah, but there wasn't pressure. And Big John,
Speaker 2: thank you. You do sound like somebody who is big.
Speaker 2: I mean you are a big John. In fact, Scooter
Speaker 2: sent us his sliding pants from that game. I have
Speaker 2: it on my side of the man cave that he autographed.
Speaker 2: But here's Showhy trying to go fifty to fifty, which
Speaker 2: has never been done. Scooter had a wonderful game, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't compare. The only other game that compares regular
Speaker 2: season that I can remember, Ted Williams when he was
Speaker 2: batting three ninety nine point five and they could have
Speaker 2: rounded up to four hundred. He played both games of
Speaker 2: the doubleheader and ended up hitting four oh six. This
Speaker 2: day in sports history, Paulie, what do you have for well?
Speaker 8: Bonus coverage tonight on National TV TBS Padres at Dodgers
Speaker 8: if you want to watch a little Otani? Which people
Speaker 8: should be doing? Nineteen thirty four, Dan Babe Ruth played
Speaker 8: his final game as a New York Yanke This is
Speaker 8: a good one. Nineteen thirty seven, the NHL Board of
Speaker 8: Governors introduced legislation that discouraged icing with the league. So
Speaker 8: icing was invented in nineteen thirty seven. It took another
Speaker 8: one hundred years for non hockey fans to figure.
Speaker 2: Out what icing is.
Speaker 8: And uh okay. The Brooklyn Dodgers nineteen fifty seven, oh
Speaker 8: play their last game at Ebattsfield.
Speaker 2: Oh how about Washington? Ends Miami's fifty eight game home
Speaker 2: winning streak beating the Hurricanes in the Orange Bowl nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four. This might be the longest return of a
Speaker 2: for a touchdown in sports history. Ken Hinton of the
Speaker 2: British Columbia Lines nineteen seventy seven returns a missed field
Speaker 2: goal one hundred and thirty yards. Twenty twelve, Russell Wilson Junior,
Speaker 2: the third touchdown pass to Golden Tate, final play beating
Speaker 2: Green Bay, the infamous fail Mary and that put an
Speaker 2: end of the use of a replacement official that season.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. What we learned Todd? Would
Speaker 2: you learn today?
Speaker 10: He's six six to eighty. That's why he's Big John
Speaker 10: in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: So you didn't learn anything prior to five minutes.
Speaker 12: I also in RG three, says Jaden Daniels, gives DC
Speaker 12: hope they haven't had an over a decade ice in
Speaker 12: his veins.
Speaker 10: That big fourth down.
Speaker 2: Conversion, Seaton O'Connor. Would you learn RG three could still
Speaker 2: fly still quick? Yeah? Yeah, he raced a car. He
Speaker 2: raced a race car. Marvin James in Virginia. He likes
Speaker 2: punkin pie, not sweet potato pie. Sure doesn't. Paulie, what
Speaker 2: did you learn?
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