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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Hour number two,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition. We're headed down to the great state of

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Speaker 2: Texas right now, and we are joined by the governor

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Speaker 2: of that state, Greg Abbott. And I understand last year

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Speaker 2: at about this time, buck Sexton myself we met and

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Speaker 2: shook hands talked with the governor in the governor's mansion

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Speaker 2: as the Alabama Texas game was about to take place

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Speaker 2: in Austin. Tough loss for the Longhorns there, but I understand, Governor,

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Speaker 2: you were on the field for the big win by

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Speaker 2: the Texas Longhorns over Alabama on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: What was that experience?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: It was unparalleled. It was just remarkable. Listen, that Alabama

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Speaker 4: Stadium is very loud, and it's a daunting place for

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Speaker 4: players to go into and play. And you know, this

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Speaker 4: game this year lack last year, was a nip and tuck,

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Speaker 4: back and forth, close game. It's just exciting football with

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Speaker 4: two great college football titans and going after each other. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: as a Longhorn myself, I was pleased to see Texas

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Speaker 4: come out on top of this one, but it's just

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Speaker 4: kind of what college football is all about and what

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Speaker 4: a great victory for the Longhorse.

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Speaker 5: Governor Rabbit, thanks so much for being here. While I

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Speaker 5: do enjoy college football, I also want to ask you

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Speaker 5: about what's going on with the border, which affects your

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Speaker 5: state as much, if not more, than any other state

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Speaker 5: out there. New York City's Mayor Eric Adams seems to

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Speaker 5: be blaming you for the problems of New York City

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Speaker 5: when it comes to what's called the migrant crisis. I

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Speaker 5: just wanted to ask you before we can talk about

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Speaker 5: the barrier and the Rio Grande and all the rest.

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Speaker 5: What's your response to the mayor of New York City

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Speaker 5: saying that his migrant problems in his town are your fault.

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Speaker 4: The truth of the matter is the migrant problems they're

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Speaker 4: having in New York and Chicago and LA and DC, etc.

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Speaker 4: They're all the faults of Joe Biden. Remember this. Just

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Speaker 4: four years ago, we had the lowest number of illegal

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Speaker 4: crossings in four decades, and that was because of the

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Speaker 4: policies put in place by President Trump. Under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: We have an all time record number of people coming

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Speaker 4: put in place by Trump, and Biden has implemented open

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Speaker 4: border policies. Open border policies affect not just the state

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Speaker 4: of Texas. Every state in the United States is now

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Speaker 4: a border state, and for no other reason, because of

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Speaker 4: because you have these sanctuary cities like New York, where

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Speaker 4: they have self declared that they will accept into anybody

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Speaker 4: of any background, from wherever they may come from, and

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Speaker 4: they will take care of them. You know, is typical

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Speaker 4: astonishes me to hear Mayor Adams because New York has

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Speaker 4: and it just shows that Mayor Adams, he would not

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Speaker 2: So we're talking to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and you

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Speaker 2: just laid out. Everybody responding to what's going on now.

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Speaker 2: New York City, Chicago, Washington, d C, LA, other places

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Speaker 2: most recent numbers over seventy two hundred people coming across

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Speaker 2: That was Bill Malugin's number that I saw him tweet

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Speaker 2: out early this morning. What is your response directly to

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden when you hear that he may be trying

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Speaker 2: to put in place a remain in Texas policy as

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Speaker 2: opposed to a remain in Mexico policy. Legitimately, he wants

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Speaker 4: Well, there's multiple levels of response to that. First of all,

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Speaker 4: which is the correct position to take. And so what

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Speaker 4: Biden needs to do is recalibrate and make sure that

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Speaker 4: he imposes remain in Mexico. It is the remain in

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Speaker 4: Mexico policy. That was a leading reason why under President

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Speaker 4: the legal process here has already been tried, and that

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Speaker 4: to even attempt this. All that said, in addition to

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Speaker 4: do two other things. One is, we will increase the

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Speaker 4: the ability. You know, if you think of New York

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Speaker 4: we will escalate even more what we're doing by using

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Speaker 4: have seen on TV. We are repelling migrants who are

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Speaker 4: attempting to come across the border, and that's because of

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Speaker 4: the National Guard and the Texas Department of Public Safety

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Speaker 4: And we will escalate that more to make sure that

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Speaker 4: we are securing the state of Texas. Last point here,

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Speaker 4: and that is you said you talked about the numbers

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Speaker 4: was informed of yesterday by the Texas Borders are who,

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Speaker 4: by the way, lives on the border, and he said

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Speaker 4: that California and Arizona sectors now have more people going

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Speaker 4: into those sectors than into the Texas sectors. And that's

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Speaker 4: because of the efforts that Texas has put up to

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Speaker 2: You've got a law degree from Vanderbilt Law School, by

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Speaker 2: the way, fabulous place to go get a law degree,

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Speaker 2: because I also happened to have one from there. And

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Speaker 2: what you just said raises so many interesting questions. And

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Speaker 2: I know you're dealing with a fifth circuit case, I

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Speaker 2: believe if I'm not mistaken right now, But what happens

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Speaker 2: if the State of Texas has a divergent border policy

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Speaker 2: compared to the one trying to be put in place

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Speaker 2: by the Biden administration. I'm sure you've seen that they're

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Speaker 2: opening an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden. How is there

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Speaker 2: protecting the sanctity of the southern border. And what happens

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Speaker 2: in your mind as the governor of Texas when the

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Speaker 2: State of Texas is doing a better job protecting the

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Speaker 2: does that state federal government interplay work in your mind

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to the state of the border at Texas.

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Speaker 4: Normally, the way that it would play out is that

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Speaker 4: state and federal governments would find some way to work

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Speaker 4: collaboratively on an effort like what we did with the

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Speaker 4: Trump administry, right. But when you have the Biden administration

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Speaker 4: the federal level who's compelling Joe Biden to follow the law,

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Speaker 4: Texas has to go down its own pathway. If the

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Speaker 4: Texas has to take matters into our own hands, which

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Speaker 4: is exactly why we are, you know, putting up the

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Speaker 4: and that is, if ever there were a reason why

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Speaker 4: a president should be impeached, this is it, you know,

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Speaker 4: putting aside what happened with Bill Clinton, putting aside what

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Speaker 4: What Joe Biden is doing is abandoning his fundamental authority

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Speaker 4: as being commander in chief to protect the security of

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Speaker 4: the United States of America. There have been more people

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Speaker 4: come across the border who were on the terrorist watch

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Speaker 4: list and be apprehended than under any president in the

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Speaker 4: causing a direct threat to national security. I consider that

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Speaker 5: Speaking a Governor Abbott of Texas, Governor, you may have

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Speaker 5: a different administration, God willing, you may have a different

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Speaker 5: administration in charge starting in about what fifteen months from now?

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Speaker 5: What would the right I mean, what is the optimum

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Speaker 5: collaboration between the State of Texas and a Republican White

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Speaker 5: did not have the rampant lawless list, the exploitation by

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Speaker 4: It's really very simple. You can do one or two things.

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Speaker 4: You all may remember about a year ago or so

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Speaker 4: But separate from that, thank you, just go back and

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Speaker 4: use what President Trump did that led to the lowest

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Speaker 4: my point. It is clear and it's been proven that

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Speaker 4: the President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Texas Governor Greg Abbott with US. I want to circle

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Speaker 2: back around on something you said. You said you potentially

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Speaker 2: accelerate the amount of buses that you were sending to

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Speaker 2: places like New York City if this influx continues and

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration continues to work against you. What would

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Speaker 2: When you talk about acceleration, we.

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Speaker 4: Well, first the reason for it, and that is there's

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Speaker 4: just no way and there's no room on the border

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Speaker 4: to make sure that we're going to be able to

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Speaker 4: not going to be overrun by the reckless border policies

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Speaker 4: of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Texas Governor Greg Abbott, we appreciate the time congratulations to

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Speaker 2: Longhorns everywhere on the big win over Alabama and good

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Speaker 2: luck against Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: This weekend.

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Speaker 2: By the way, are you excited as the governor for

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Speaker 2: Texas and Texas A and M to be playing again

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Speaker 2: starting next year?

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Speaker 4: So something that I placed early on in my administration

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Speaker 4: that I would reunite the Texas, Texas A and M

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Speaker 4: football rivalry and it's going to happen next year.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, appreciate it, sir, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Take care.

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Speaker 2: That is Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Raggies and Longhorns united there. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. He's a fashion icon.

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Speaker 5: He is a man of precise words. John Fetterman, he

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Speaker 2: No, I'm reacting in real time. Whatever you play, Fetterman,

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Speaker 5: The funeral oration of Pericles during the Peloponnesian War. He did, however,

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Speaker 3: Ask you about this news that Speaker McCarthy has formally

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Speaker 1: Gosh, you know, oh, it's devastating.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it, Please, don't do it. Oh no, no.

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Speaker 5: No, Now, first, I mean, you get it said he's

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Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying that Fetterman is some strategic genius

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Speaker 5: But what if they just decide that they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: Clay she was, you know, abs upset.

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Speaker 5: That saddens my heart. You know, she did the whole

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Speaker 5: But uh, Fetterman saying that this is like a joke

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Speaker 5: This is actually an entirely legitimate impeachment inquiry. This is

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Speaker 2: That's crazily the most eloquent I've heard from the Fetterman

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Speaker 2: So let's begin with this analysis right in terms of

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Speaker 1: Will they ridicule it? That's really what this is. I

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the left has a sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: Propaganda is the opposite of humor.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard when you believe that you are everything

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Speaker 2: I used to ask this question, Buck, and you actually

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Speaker 5: Like would you be like? Did not make a lot

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Speaker 2: Like Osama bin Lauden. Doesn't seem to me like a

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Speaker 1: As an aside, but that's a whole other conversation.

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Speaker 1: And so when you.

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Speaker 2: Ask that question, my immediate response is Democrats have convinced

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Speaker 1: But ridicule is not.

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Speaker 5: It's not necessarily funny. Right to ridicule something is not

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Speaker 2: It was a big part of the twenty twenty one election.

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Speaker 1: They charged to him.

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Speaker 5: They charged that dad with assault because he was unruly

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Speaker 2: Yes, so here is a crazy story that's going on.

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Speaker 2: So we had Glenn Youngkin on the program what like

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Speaker 1: It's everywhere.

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Speaker 2: A Democrat candidate for the Virginia General Assembly in a

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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing about this Buck is she's trying

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Speaker 2: how this thing is designed, and therefore you are not

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Speaker 2: able to make a copy of it and then disseminate,

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Speaker 2: which is an interesting word, of course, disseminate that copy

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Speaker 2: as a result.

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Speaker 1: But the bigger picture here is.

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Speaker 2: She ran as one of the democrats top candidates despite

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Speaker 2: recently being a sex act performer on the internet, and

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Speaker 2: she's trying to argue that it's unfair that this would

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Speaker 2: come out.

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Speaker 1: I mean that seems to be fair.

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Speaker 2: Look if she were twenty or eighteen and she was

449
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Speaker 2: in college and she was like, you know, working at

450
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Speaker 2: Hooters or a you know, like a boob bar or

451
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Speaker 2: something like that, I'd be like, well, that was twenty

452
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Speaker 2: years ago. People change. It probably still is a story,

453
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Speaker 2: but it's a lot different than Hey, my husband and

454
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Speaker 2: I did sex tapes for paying customers, and now it's

455
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Speaker 2: unfair for that evidence to come out.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you out there like this is

457
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Speaker 1: a crazy story.

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Speaker 2: This might decide who has control of the Virginia House.

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Speaker 2: And there has been suggestions that if Glenn Youngkin and

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Speaker 2: the Republicans take back control of Virginia House, he might

461
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Speaker 2: decide to enter the presidential race. I mean, this is

462
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Speaker 2: so this woman's sex tapes might in some way implicate

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Speaker 2: who winds up running for president in the Republican primary.

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Speaker 5: It won't intimidate me, and it won't silence me, she

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Speaker 5: said in a statement. This is the woman who's running

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Speaker 5: for the state, you know, state House. My political opponents

467
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Speaker 5: and the Republican allies have proven they're willing to commit

468
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Speaker 5: a sex crime to attack me and my family because

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Speaker 5: there's no line they won't cross to silence women when

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Speaker 5: they speak up. Wow, I just I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 5: the audacity to make yourself the victim when you and

472
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Speaker 5: your husband have been allegedly being paid to engage in

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Speaker 5: sex acts on camera.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they have two kids. I think the

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Speaker 1: husband is a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: The husband didn't say, hey, honey, you know, I understand

477
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Speaker 2: you've got this political itch, but you know, we did

478
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Speaker 2: make a lot of sex tape videos on chatterbay dot com.

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Speaker 5: I think they may maybe we should do it. Who

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Speaker 5: found this video? You think they may actually try to

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Speaker 5: press charges? I mean, I didn't even know that this

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Speaker 5: was a statue. I mean it's I don't live in Virginia,

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Speaker 5: but I think a lot of Virginians probably don't even

484
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Speaker 5: know it's It's really it's a what do you call it,

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Speaker 5: like a revenge porn or what's the I think that's.

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Speaker 2: The term that a lot of people use. But that's different, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because there's a dot.

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Speaker 5: Like a private conduct between two people that is recorded

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Speaker 5: and then shared without consent to a third party. And

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of states that have passed laws

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Speaker 5: against that, and I think there are even criminal statutes

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Speaker 5: now against that because of how common it is.

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Speaker 1: But if you're engaged, this is the part of it

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Speaker 1: is that this is the key part of it legally, right, Yeah, if.

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Speaker 5: You're engaged in commercial online sexual activity, it's commerce now,

496
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Speaker 5: I mean this is now you're down. It's a business transaction.

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Speaker 5: Is that also protected as though it's you know, private

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Speaker 5: consenting adults?

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Speaker 2: Well, and this is again so interesting. I mean, honestly

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Speaker 2: from a legal perspective, how this website is created, I'm

501
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Speaker 2: not familiar with it. If this is the equivalent of

502
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Speaker 2: like a private show, like people may remember, may have heard,

503
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Speaker 2: may have have heard that such things could occur, there

504
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: are like lab dances, and then there are private lab dances,

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Speaker 2: or there are peep shows, and then there are private

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Speaker 2: peep shows in a digital context, is there a difference

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Speaker 2: in terms of the way that those are constructed? I

508
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Speaker 2: think legally that could be an interesting argument. But to

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Speaker 2: your point, once you are engaged in the commercial selling

510
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Speaker 2: of sex, right, which it seems quite clear that she was,

511
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Speaker 2: people would pay for her and evidently she and her

512
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Speaker 2: husband to engage in sex acts on camera. Once you're

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Speaker 2: engaged in that, I can see a copyright claim where

514
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Speaker 2: you can say, hey, uh this, you weren't allowed to

515
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Speaker 2: make a copy of this and then distribute it to

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Speaker 2: other people, and therefore it's a copyright violation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're calling a study. Now they're saying it's

518
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Speaker 5: sex crime. Yeah, they're saying it's a sex crime and

519
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Speaker 5: a criminal statute has been violated by the person who

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Speaker 5: I mean and this is.

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Speaker 2: And also Buck, I would just say, in the interests

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Speaker 2: of elections, wouldn't you want to know if you're congress

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Speaker 2: person or your House of Burgess's member or whatever it's

524
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Speaker 2: called in in Virginia, wouldn't you want.

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Speaker 1: To know if that was what they had done in

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Speaker 1: their past?

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Speaker 2: Like I would want to know, Oh, this person, they

528
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: worked as a lawyer and they worked as a UPS

529
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Speaker 2: delivery person and like, oh she was a sex worker,

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Speaker 2: well okay recently. Like that seems like something that would

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Speaker 2: be hard. Got to be careful with all the word

532
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Speaker 2: choices here, hard to justify in many different aspects, and

533
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Speaker 2: to make yourself the victim when you voluntarily engaged in

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Speaker 2: public at sex acts for money, I just I don't

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Speaker 2: buy it.

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Speaker 5: Let me just put this out there. This is my

537
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Speaker 5: my gut instinct on this, and maybe I'm completely way off.

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Speaker 2: He may still win. Does that seem crazy to you?

539
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Speaker 2: I so this is such a big topic of conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think we're moving towards the era and some of

541
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Speaker 2: you are going to be like, my god, Clay, you're crazy.

542
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Speaker 2: I think we're moving towards the era where naked photos,

543
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Speaker 2: sex tapes, all of that stuff is so commonplace. If

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Speaker 2: you are right now listening to us and you are

545
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Speaker 2: twenty five years old, I bet sixty or seventy percent

546
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: of twenty five year olds today, at some point in

547
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Speaker 2: time there's a video or pictures or something that is

548
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Speaker 2: of a scandalous nature. Because everybody's got phones in their hands.

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Speaker 2: So I think the younger generation is desensitized in some

550
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Speaker 2: way to this. I think that it's very generational. I

551
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Speaker 2: think if you're listening to us right now and you're sixty,

552
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Speaker 2: I think you're like, my god, there's no way this

553
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Speaker 2: woman can be a representative.

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Speaker 5: I just I was just thinking in terms of the

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Speaker 5: narrative that she's a victim, and if under state law

556
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Speaker 5: there is some interpretation of that that a crime has

557
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Speaker 5: been committed here, then it's she's a victim, and I'm

558
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Speaker 5: just saying it doesn't seem to me like this is

559
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Speaker 5: necessarily I wouldn't bet money on this, but it doesn't

560
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Speaker 5: seem to me like this is necessarily the end of

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Speaker 5: this woman's aspirations to represent the state of of Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Here's an easy answer, right, So you not crazy? You

563
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Speaker 2: agree that's not crazy. No, I don't know what the

564
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Speaker 2: district looks like. I don't know what percentage is a

565
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Speaker 2: Republican versus Democrat. Buck they elected Fetterman. If I had

566
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Speaker 2: to say, like, would you rather you mean Jenny, I

567
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Speaker 2: just mean the district in general, like Democrats elected Fetterman.

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Speaker 2: If you told me right now, hey, you have an option.

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Speaker 2: It's a woman who did sex acts with her husband,

570
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Speaker 2: but her brain works and she can actually answer questions

571
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Speaker 2: and represent the state of Pennsylvania or John Fetterman. And

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Speaker 2: I had to choose between the two, I would pick

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Speaker 2: that woman if Fetterman's not disqualifying, and heck, if Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's not disqualifying. If the woman believes the right things

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Speaker 2: in terms of Democrat orthodoxy, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people will show up.

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Speaker 1: And vote for it no matter what.

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Speaker 5: Eight hundred two two eight eight two Any of you

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Speaker 5: in Virginia who have some insight on this race or

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Speaker 5: the situation, the politics of the situation.

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Speaker 1: Please you're sorry. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Phones that lit up everybody's got opinions on chatterbay dot com.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about guns in New Mexico. Claim

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Speaker 1: wanted to do this one. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: That story is fascinating and it is interesting, and it's

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Speaker 2: everywhere right now.

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Speaker 5: But also when you are getting this phase where when

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, tem thanks for being here with us. We're

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Speaker 5: going to be in the next hour talking to you

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Speaker 5: about this thirty day gunban in New Mexico, well really

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Speaker 5: just in Santa Fe. I believe that Governor Luhan Grisham

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Speaker 5: We also have a info Wars host who just got

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Speaker 5: sixty days in federal prison for being present in a

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Speaker 5: on the grounds, the general grounds of the capitol. So

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Speaker 5: I guess I mean, effectively, Clay, it must have been

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Speaker 5: that he went past the police do not cross line.

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Speaker 5: You didn't go in a building, didn't attack anyone, didn't

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Speaker 5: those things. Six days, sixty days in prison, Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean that's I got. I mean the maximum was a year,

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Speaker 5: but still sixty days in prison. A first time offender,

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Speaker 5: some of that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Mark from Montana wants to weigh in on the mess

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Speaker 5: in the situation that has played out that we're just

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Speaker 5: talking about a second ago.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Mark?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call. What I was

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Speaker 3: going to tell you, so maybe a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 3: I was that we have a little hot springs here.

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Speaker 3: I was in the hot springs and there was three

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Speaker 3: twenty somethings, like twenty twenty one year old women.

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Speaker 1: I've heard stories like this before. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where it's going okay.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I was.

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Speaker 1: A fireman and I just showed up and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, continue, No, it wasn't it wasn't anything Devia. But

648
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Speaker 3: they were all sitting around the pools, three of them,

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Speaker 3: and they were discussing their experiences on Only Fans.

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Speaker 2: They were all three You were to hot tub with

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Speaker 2: three OnlyFans models?

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Speaker 3: Well, no, well I was at a hot springs pool

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Speaker 3: with so it was like, you know, like, wait.

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Speaker 1: Let his story.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm just I'm trying to get a better paid,

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Speaker 2: a better mental picture here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were other people around.

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Speaker 4: It was a public pool.

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Speaker 3: I just happened to be in there and there was

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Speaker 3: three yeah, OnlyFans models, And I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: one of them really wasn't all that attractive. But they

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Speaker 3: were all sitting around talking about their experiences on OnlyFans,

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Speaker 3: and so I just kind of overheard him and I started.

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Speaker 3: I had a conversation with him about it. And one

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Speaker 3: thing I realized, because one had made of all the

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Speaker 3: funny things, had made a lot of money off of

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Speaker 3: her feet, but there were but the other two. They

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Speaker 3: all talked about how much money they may None of

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Speaker 3: them made a whole lot of money. But I realized

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Speaker 3: having this conversation with them, how comfortable that generation, like

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Speaker 3: the twenty young twenty somethings, the nineteen year olds really

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Speaker 3: are with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this stuff has been normalized. Mark from Monteta, Thanks

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Speaker 5: thanks for calling in. Here's a totally PG story, mister

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Speaker 5: a plumber, He's gonna be a fireman.

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