WEBVTT - Death of the Very Special Episode

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've spent many hours with children who've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>involved with drugs. They start your age even younger.

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<v Speaker 2>In March of nineteen eighty three, at the behest of

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<v Speaker 2>a sixth grader named Arnold Jackson, First Lady Nancy Reagan

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<v Speaker 2>visited a classroom at New York City's PS four h

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<v Speaker 2>six to talk about drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're all tragic stories of kids with great potential

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<v Speaker 1>whose lives were ruined.

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<v Speaker 2>But this New York City classroom was actually on a

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles soundstage, and Arnold Jackson was a character played

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<v Speaker 2>by actor Gary Coleman.

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<v Speaker 3>Who children about Missus Rady's.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I happened to be here in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that story about you in the paper, Arnold.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm very concerned about drug abuse, especially among

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<v Speaker 1>the young.

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<v Speaker 2>Missus Reagan was taping an episode of the popular NBC

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<v Speaker 2>sitcom Different Strokes to promote her Just Say No anti

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<v Speaker 2>drug campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>In the plot the series, regular Arnold actor Gary Coleman

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<v Speaker 4>gets some help from Missus Reagan in his own effort

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<v Speaker 4>to curb drug abuse among students.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when the Nancy Reagan Different Strokes episode aired?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, absolutely, because it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it was definitely like, this is something that

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<v Speaker 6>we have to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Jessica Shawl. She hosts the pop Culture Spotlight

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<v Speaker 2>on Serious Exam Radio, and it's written about television for decades.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm gen X.

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<v Speaker 6>The fact that my parents even knew I existed was

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<v Speaker 6>like a minor miracle, you know. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>adults were going on our shows, they weren't going on

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<v Speaker 6>the news, they were going on our shows to reach

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<v Speaker 6>us felt different and kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Special, very special. Over thirty two million people watched The

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<v Speaker 2>First Lady that night. Do you remember what your reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to it was.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure that I took it kind of earnestly as

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<v Speaker 6>a child, because we weren't cynical like children are now.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's say, in like the twenty twenties. I think in

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<v Speaker 6>the eighties there was a little bit more of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I need to listen to the First Lady and what

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<v Speaker 6>she has to say.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Reagan.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess there's something I should say. I've tried drugs

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<v Speaker 3>a few times.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That took as much courage as it did for Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>to write a story.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels like the prototypical very special episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I mean absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>The very special episode a mainstay of nineteen eighties and

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen nineties television. It often came with a warning

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<v Speaker 2>to parents that the ordinarily hermetically sealed off world of

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite family friendly series was about to get injected

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<v Speaker 2>with a dose of the real world. Tuesday, Very Special.

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<v Speaker 7>Fullhouse, We're starting a special two part show on a

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<v Speaker 7>very sensitive and important subject.

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<v Speaker 2>You figured we'd talk to.

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<v Speaker 8>You kids and your parents two about smits kind of

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<v Speaker 8>hard to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>The laughs would still be there, just more muted. It

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<v Speaker 2>could get awkward.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I get eight present that I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the sitcom itself in an in between state,

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing its own well growing pains.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened to his second chance?

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<v Speaker 2>But never fear. The main characters would remain safe and unchanged,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the end, all would be back to normal.

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<v Speaker 2>It just might take more than one episode.

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<v Speaker 6>The resolution is a big part of it, and it

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<v Speaker 6>might not be resolved in twenty two minutes because it's

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<v Speaker 6>a big issue. It's a big issue, so it might

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<v Speaker 6>take two whole episodes, which is really enough to unpack.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see AIDS molestation drug use, drug use.

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<v Speaker 2>They made headlines and big ratings until they were no

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<v Speaker 2>longer special, just cliched. And then the very special episode

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<v Speaker 2>was dropped from the schedule. I mean, who needs lessons

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<v Speaker 2>when you have Seinfeld.

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<v Speaker 6>And just saying basically, there are going to be no

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<v Speaker 6>very special episodes. That is the very thing that we

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<v Speaker 6>will never do. I mean, what was the quote, no

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<v Speaker 6>hugging nor.

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<v Speaker 2>Learning, No hugging nor learning from CBS Sunday Morning and

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart I'm Morocca and this is a very special episode

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<v Speaker 2>of mobituaries. This moment, the death of the very special episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you speculate on what was the very first very

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<v Speaker 2>special episode? I would speculate that it is a Norman

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<v Speaker 2>Lear show. That's Jessica Shaw again. I also would have

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<v Speaker 2>guessed that the very special episode began with the late

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<v Speaker 2>Norman Lear. But we found something even earlier than the

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<v Speaker 2>Norman Lear era. It is the February thirteenth, nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>season three episode of Leave It to Beaver, Yes, Leave

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<v Speaker 2>It to Beaver, and the episode was described as follows. Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>a neighborhood drunk, is hired to paint the house and

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<v Speaker 2>Beaver unwittingly gives him some brandy, which you know I

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<v Speaker 2>had to say at the time must have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA what is this?

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<v Speaker 9>Let me ask you something. Beaver is your father? Would

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<v Speaker 9>he have a little bit of whiskey?

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<v Speaker 2>Hero? I'd never seen this before.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, A plus research.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's so kind of surprising to see Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Mathers as the Beaver or kind of interacting with this

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<v Speaker 2>alcoholic house painter.

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<v Speaker 10>Once Michael Billy set my father bottle, it was all

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<v Speaker 10>that buttonhead brandiant.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's about what I'm talking about Beaver.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Beaver's parents find out and reprimand him, But

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<v Speaker 2>big brother Wally makes the point that Beaver didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>Andy had a problem. After all, Ward and June Cleaver

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't told the boys.

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<v Speaker 7>You and Mom shouldn't be scared to tell us things.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody's got to tell a guy about all the bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Junk in the world. He's somehow like the writer's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, please, please, let us tell stories that have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more grit, that are a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more complex.

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<v Speaker 6>It also feels like the entire premise of a very

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<v Speaker 6>special episode is built on that one line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as Wally Cleaver put it. Somebody's got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>a guy about all the bad junk in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten years later, another family sitcom dared to do just that.

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<v Speaker 10>Bhy This is Elizabeth Montgomery Welcome to be Witch Next

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<v Speaker 10>on ABC. Tonight's show was created in the true spirit

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<v Speaker 10>of Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>On Christmas Eve nineteen seventy, with silent night playing underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Montgomery, who played good Witch Samantha Stevens on Bewitched,

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<v Speaker 2>spoke directly to viewers ahead of an episode entitled Sisters

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<v Speaker 2>at Heart.

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<v Speaker 10>My friends at Oscar Meyern Company, and I feel it

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<v Speaker 10>is a very special Bewitched, conceived in the image of

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<v Speaker 10>innocence and filled with truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. She even called the episode very special. That's

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<v Speaker 2>because the usual bad things that happened on Bewitched involved

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<v Speaker 2>spells gone awry, but in this instance, magic was used

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<v Speaker 2>to shine a light on racism.

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<v Speaker 3>You've grown the part he said that we shall be colors,

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<v Speaker 3>so we couldn't be sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a big jump. That's daughter Tabitha, who is white

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<v Speaker 2>and also a witch. Her new friend, Lisa is black.

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<v Speaker 2>Tabitha ends up using witchcraft so she and Lisa can

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<v Speaker 2>look more alike. She first turns Lisa white, then turns

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<v Speaker 2>herself black, then turns the both of them polka dot. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha puts a spell on her husband's racist client. He

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<v Speaker 2>starts to see everyone, including himself, as black, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the episode, he's learned his lesson. I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered something about myself. I found out I'm a racist.

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<v Speaker 2>A racist.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh not the obvious, out in the open type of racist.

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<v Speaker 4>Not me.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I was a sneaky racist. I was so sneaky

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't even know it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick side note this episode was co written by a

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<v Speaker 2>classroom of black students at Jefferson High School in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>making it even more special. But the Beaver and Bewitched

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<v Speaker 2>episodes were very much exceptions to the rule. The sitcoms

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<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen sixties were happily stuck in their own

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy world, completely divorced from the reality of the times.

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<v Speaker 2>Did divorce even come up? In our season two episode

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<v Speaker 2>on Television's Rural Purge, we talked about the country themed

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<v Speaker 2>shows that dominated the airwaves that decade, especially at CBS

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<v Speaker 2>on the Beverly Hillbillies and Green Acres. There were no

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<v Speaker 2>anti war protests, no racism, since there were rarely black

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<v Speaker 2>characters or political assassinations. And how's this for a metaphor.

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<v Speaker 2>Petticoat Junction was a show centered around the spur of

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<v Speaker 2>a railroad that basically went nowhere.

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<v Speaker 9>Come ride the little train that is rolling down the

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<v Speaker 9>tracks to the junk show.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, where's Norman? Lare was like, Oh, we're going somewhere right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, This train is actually going to a real place.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Norman Lear.

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<v Speaker 4>Norman Lear has changed the face of television. Until nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy one, he was a very successful, if largely unheralded

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<v Speaker 4>producer writer in Hollywood, but then he burst upon the

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<v Speaker 4>public consciousness when he took on bigotry with his All

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<v Speaker 4>in the Family.

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<v Speaker 2>All in the Family starred Carol O'Connor as Archie Bunker,

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<v Speaker 2>a man who longed for yesteryear, pigheaded and yes, bigoted,

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<v Speaker 2>but also surprisingly likable. Every episode was special. The series

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<v Speaker 2>regularly addressed racism, sexism, anti semitism. It featured one of

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<v Speaker 2>the very first gay characters on television, and don't matter

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<v Speaker 2>the topic, Archie Bunker didn't hold back.

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<v Speaker 7>His proud Roger is as queer as a four dollar

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<v Speaker 7>bill and he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not only cruel, Daddy.

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<v Speaker 5>That's an outright line.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, something, Archie.

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<v Speaker 12>Just because a guy is sensitive and he's an intellectual

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<v Speaker 12>and he wears glasses, you make him out of I.

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<v Speaker 13>Never said a guy who wears glasses as a quia.

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<v Speaker 7>A guy who wears glasses is a four eyes.

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<v Speaker 9>A guy who was a fag is a quia.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to say, and it might be a

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<v Speaker 2>super unpopular opinion. I'm glad they use that word that

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<v Speaker 2>they use that slur, because that's part of what made

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<v Speaker 2>the show so real.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they didn't shy away from anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't it so interesting that that scene could not air

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Right right? The big reveal near the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>episode is that the person Archie thought was gay is

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<v Speaker 2>in fact straight, while a pal he had assumed to

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<v Speaker 2>be straight is actually gay. Huge numbers of people were

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<v Speaker 2>being introduced to things they were not familiar with. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't even think they knew a gay person.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, I imagine that was eye opening to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Another Milestone episode from nineteen seventy seven was about Archie's

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<v Speaker 2>wife Edith, fending off a rapist. It was a two

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<v Speaker 2>parter called Edith's fiftieth birthday, and I remember being talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in hushed tones. I didn't have to be told

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't for kids. What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't taken off?

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<v Speaker 5>You're close, are you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Then I'm going to take yours off.

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<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't you like a cup of coffeees?

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<v Speaker 2>Norman Lear became the biggest TV producer of the decade,

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<v Speaker 2>helping to create an entire universe of sitcoms and.

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<v Speaker 7>Then there's mod.

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<v Speaker 2>On the most famous episode of Maud, the title character,

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<v Speaker 2>a feminist plate by b Arthur, became unexpectedly pregnant and

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<v Speaker 2>had to decide whether she'd carried the child's term.

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<v Speaker 11>Mother.

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<v Speaker 14>Listen to me, it's a simple operation now, But when

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<v Speaker 14>you were growing up, it was illegal and it was

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<v Speaker 14>dangerous and it was sinister, and you've never gotten over that.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you tell me that's not true.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not true, and you're right, I've never gotten note.

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<v Speaker 2>Maud had the abortion. Lear was also the force behind

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<v Speaker 2>some of the first sitcoms centered around black characters, including

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<v Speaker 2>Good Times.

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<v Speaker 3>You Couldn't help but notice all those bruises on Penny's.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, a nineteen seventy seven episode featured a young Janet

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson playing the victim of child's abuse.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh those pennies at the awkward age. She's always falling down?

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<v Speaker 9>Isn't that true?

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<v Speaker 14>Dear?

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't you fall down?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah? One time I fell out of the tree and

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<v Speaker 3>I landed on my pussy cat and a squished them.

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<v Speaker 11>And Pussycat sure leads a tough life.

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<v Speaker 13>What TV shows are certainly a good way to talk

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<v Speaker 13>about these issues and call people's attention to them in

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<v Speaker 13>a way that they may not be considering it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Norman lear from a conversation I had with him

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty fifteen for CBS Sunday Morning.

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<v Speaker 13>Most people in their own emotionally crowded lives hear about

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<v Speaker 13>these things, visit it in a short conversation, but their

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<v Speaker 13>minds are not really there. So I think speaking about

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<v Speaker 13>it in a comedy where they were even getting laughs

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<v Speaker 13>about it can only be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you control them in with a story. At least

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<v Speaker 2>you can maybe get them to then talk about it at.

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<v Speaker 13>Home in the next conversation they're familiar with it and

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<v Speaker 13>perhaps a little bit more ready to embrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Norman told me that even decades later, he heard from

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<v Speaker 2>viewers about the impact of his shows.

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<v Speaker 13>It's so touching. And we watched it as a family.

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<v Speaker 13>We don't watch anything as a family now, and we

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<v Speaker 13>talked about Archie and we talked about the subject matter.

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<v Speaker 13>And the one thing that I think the show accomplished

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<v Speaker 13>that I can count on because I've heard it through

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<v Speaker 13>all the years, was that there are big words to me.

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<v Speaker 13>We talked to the show and we.

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<v Speaker 6>Talked think about the things that Norman Lear was able

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<v Speaker 6>to get away with, quote unquote, get away with talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was so powerful at that point that I

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<v Speaker 6>have to imagine that there were I mean, there was

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<v Speaker 6>that whole standards and practices department at every network that

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<v Speaker 6>there must have been people who pushed back against certain things,

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<v Speaker 6>lines that he wanted to do, or maybe maybe topics.

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<v Speaker 2>There was indeed pushback to many viewers shows like Norman

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<v Speaker 2>Lear's were too candid. Additionally, there was outrage over the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy four Linda Blair made for TV movie Born Innocent,

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<v Speaker 2>which included graphic sexual violence and aired at eight PM

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<v Speaker 2>when many children were watching TV. The networks went on defense.

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<v Speaker 15>The period from seven to nine PM is known in

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<v Speaker 15>television as the family viewing period.

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<v Speaker 4>A period during which parents and children are supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to sit together and watch television without being

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<v Speaker 4>made to feel uncomfortable or so the networks to find

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<v Speaker 4>the family owner.

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<v Speaker 2>Which meant that in nineteen seventy five, shows like All

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<v Speaker 2>in the Family, which had been airing at eight pm Eastern,

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<v Speaker 2>had to move to later in the evening. Let's All Sing,

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventy five version of those were the day

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<v Speaker 2>the cast recorded a parody of their opening number, mocking

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<v Speaker 2>the Family Hour concept and celebrating what their later time

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<v Speaker 2>slot would allow them to talk about.

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<v Speaker 9>Seeing Congers.

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<v Speaker 15>Robert Can Propose to Build.

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<v Speaker 2>In court, Lear and other writers and producers challenged the

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<v Speaker 2>Family Hour. The court ruled that the Family Hour concept

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<v Speaker 2>was a violation of the First Amendment, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>said it had no authority to dictate how the network's

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<v Speaker 2>programmed We Can Show.

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<v Speaker 15>My Pregnancy and John Boy Can Have b D.

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<v Speaker 7>Plus a quick ves sent.

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<v Speaker 2>After nine o'clock. The Family Hour wasn't going away anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side of the break the nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 2>and the heyday of the Very Special Episode.

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<v Speaker 6>It was one of those things like can we just

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<v Speaker 6>farm out parenting to this show. Yes, cool, We're super

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<v Speaker 6>happy with that.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, I'm Conrad Vain Tonight on Different Strokes, we're starting

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<v Speaker 7>a special two part show on a very sensitive and

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<v Speaker 7>important subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Different Strokes was one of the biggest hit sitcoms of

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineteen eighties, airing at eight pm Eastern on Saturdays,

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<v Speaker 2>prying family time. So in February nineteen eighty three, when

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<v Speaker 2>Conrad Bain, who played the wealthy adoptive father of Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>and Willis Jackson, spoke directly to viewers before the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>you knew it was serious.

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<v Speaker 7>Now we urge families, children and parents alike to watch

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<v Speaker 7>both of these informative episodes and then to discuss the

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<v Speaker 7>problem presented, which is of deep concern to all of us.

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<v Speaker 5>He's saying, this is what we're going to show you. Parents, children,

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<v Speaker 5>sit down and discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how America we do very special episodes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So this episode was about stranger danger and pedophiles. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Arnold and his friend Dudley, and they become friends with

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<v Speaker 2>the owner of a local bicycle shop, mister Wharton.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, guys, you can just have an awful lot

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<v Speaker 11>of fun with your close office.

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<v Speaker 10>Les's of course you live at the North Pole, going

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<v Speaker 10>to freeze your tush off?

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<v Speaker 6>What kind of fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for instance, as Skinny Dippit, mister Hohrton gives the

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<v Speaker 2>kids wine, which is later discovered by Conrad Bain's character.

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<v Speaker 2>Here Arnold explains what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, while I was there with Dudley, he gave us

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<v Speaker 3>some pizza and wine.

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<v Speaker 7>What else went on there?

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<v Speaker 5>He showed us some pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was naked naked, and he showed us some kinky cartoons.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by kinky?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you told.

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<v Speaker 3>Me about the birds and bees, but that's nothing compared

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<v Speaker 3>to what those mice were doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was laughing? Who is laughing?

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<v Speaker 7>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>I know? I think part of the awkwardness is that

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie Coleman was such a star and they couldn't resist

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<v Speaker 2>having him show his comedic chops, and here it is jarring.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe it's more jarring, and if they fell more compelled

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<v Speaker 6>to make sure the laughs were there. Because the audience

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<v Speaker 6>of Different Strokes was a younger audience as opposed to

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<v Speaker 6>the leer shows. Those were smart, smart shows, and those

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<v Speaker 6>were smart enough that adults were watching they weren't sort

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<v Speaker 6>of here I'm going to spoonfeed us had come to

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<v Speaker 6>a child.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Jessica Shaw again, and she's right. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>younger audience, and this episode did have an impact. Newspapers

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<v Speaker 2>reported the arrest of at least one suspected child molester

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<v Speaker 2>in Indiana after a young boy recognized and reported predatory

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<v Speaker 2>behavior in an adult. Now it's important to note that

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<v Speaker 2>the term very special episode was never actually used by programmers.

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<v Speaker 2>It just sort of became a joke later, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>no strict definition. I think of it as any episode

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<v Speaker 2>of a family show where quote unquote sensitive subject matter

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<v Speaker 2>was discussed, whether or not there was an actual warning

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<v Speaker 2>from Conrad Bain and probably no show had more very

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<v Speaker 2>special episodes than different strokes. They covered kidnapping, bulimia, drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>and just one month after that Stranger Danger episode came

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<v Speaker 2>the Nancy Reagan Just Say No episode. The Reagan era

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<v Speaker 2>became the golden age of very special episodes, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>at the direction of Washington itself. In the case of drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>the White House wanted to get the just say no

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<v Speaker 2>message out to as many kids as possible. Congress was

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<v Speaker 2>also applying pressure Chuck Schumer, than a New York House

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<v Speaker 2>Rep co wrote a letter asking networks to devise an

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<v Speaker 2>intensified campaign of public service announcements and instructive programs. Author

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<v Speaker 2>Philip Sepanski makes the case that the networks were eager

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<v Speaker 2>to comply. This was a period of deregulation when the

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<v Speaker 2>networks stood to get even richer. They wanted to show

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<v Speaker 2>that they could be responsible programmers without the old rules

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<v Speaker 2>that forced them to be. So it was a win

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<v Speaker 2>win for the government and the networks. Plus, kids learned

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<v Speaker 2>something while their parents theoretically received guidance on how to explain,

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<v Speaker 2>as Wally Cleefer put it, all the bad junk in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Here's an elegant transition AIDS. It's the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is right when AIDS emerges, obviously as a

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<v Speaker 2>major crisis, and there were very special episodes about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now but Nancy Reagan, I can tell you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go into Mister Belvidere, a show that I must

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<v Speaker 2>confess I never saw until now.

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<v Speaker 11>That's Belvidere, Lynn Belvidere, Queen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a girl's name. Mister Belvidere is a British butler

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<v Speaker 2>who works for the Owens family in suburban Pittsburgh. Here

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<v Speaker 2>he is greeting a friend of youngest child, Wesley.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone you remember, where's his friend? Danny?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, Danny?

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<v Speaker 9>Hi a champ? How's it going well?

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<v Speaker 5>I get eight.

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<v Speaker 2>President that I'm doing pretty good? Okay. So it's very direct.

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<v Speaker 6>And I also think at that point, look at what

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<v Speaker 6>was going on in the White House. No one was

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<v Speaker 6>talking about AIDS, so you can bet that families weren't

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<v Speaker 6>talking about it either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true President Reagan didn't even mention AIDS in public

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen eighty five, four years into the epidemic.

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<v Speaker 6>Just having a conversation about this is usually when you

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<v Speaker 6>think about what was going on in real life with

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<v Speaker 6>Ryan White.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan White was a hemophiliac teenager from Kocomo, Indiana, who

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<v Speaker 2>contracted AIDS through a blood transfusion and was banned from

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<v Speaker 2>attending school.

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<v Speaker 15>It's a story we're hearing more and more often, a

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<v Speaker 15>story marked by school boycotts and lawsuits and students like

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<v Speaker 15>Ryan White manned from school because they have AIDS. Now,

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<v Speaker 15>I think that such a serious issue is not the

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<v Speaker 15>stuff of which situation comedies are made. Were but don't

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<v Speaker 15>tell them, folks, who work on Mister Belvidere.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode aired in January of nineteen eighty six, and

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<v Speaker 2>for a network television family show, it was pretty radical.

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<v Speaker 2>For the writers, it was personal. They were inspired not

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<v Speaker 2>only by the case of Ryan White, but also by

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<v Speaker 2>their very own talent manager's loss. Her three year old

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<v Speaker 2>son had died from AIDS after a blood transfusion. In

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<v Speaker 2>the episode's final scene, Wesley stands up for Danny, who

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<v Speaker 2>was not allowed to participate in a school pageant.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Daniel and Neion. He was supposed to play linkon

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<v Speaker 3>but he couldn't because he's got AIDS.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, oh, what are you doing out here?

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<v Speaker 4>Dennis?

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<v Speaker 2>Get away from him?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, what's now with you people?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to hurt you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. He feels bad enough forgot everybody trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make him feel worse.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to say, like I was getting a little emotional.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt a little burd in my nose watching that

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<v Speaker 6>scene because adults were horrible, and you hear them in

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<v Speaker 6>the audience saying get away from him, and then you

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<v Speaker 6>hear this next generation saying no, you're being a nightmare

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<v Speaker 6>and you're being a bigot.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's something powerful about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I should point out that the actor who played

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<v Speaker 2>the boy with aids is today a trans woman journalist

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<v Speaker 2>at Axios and is very very proud of that episode

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<v Speaker 2>and great that episode did.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think it is powerful and also not to

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<v Speaker 6>be underestimated how much parenting was farmed out to network television.

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<v Speaker 2>The drama of very special episodes went done right required

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<v Speaker 2>more nuanced performances. The best example maybe the nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>four Uncle Ned episode of Family Ties. In this scene,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead character of Alex P. Keaton played by Michael J. Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>encounters his alcoholic uncle Ned in the kitchen in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night. You'll probably recognize the voice, so

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<v Speaker 2>the actor playing Uncle Ned.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh oh, oh oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it may not be million time, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>vanilla time. Looking at you, kid. Now, remember, don't drive

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<v Speaker 2>and bake.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe this. You'd just strike a whole bottle

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<v Speaker 5>of vanilla extract.

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<v Speaker 2>And so who is it? Very famous actor.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom Hanks as Uncle Ned in like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>the tightest jeans ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, those are tight. Well, first of all, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>should know this does vanilla extract have alcohol?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it does?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it does? Okay, you know, when I first saw

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<v Speaker 2>this a couple of years ago, many years after it aired,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, I'm going to watch something really, really laughable.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course Tom Hanks is so good that he

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<v Speaker 2>pulls it off.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, absolutely, I mean that line, don't drive in bake.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a good come line.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, he's so good, and he's so funny, and

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<v Speaker 6>he's so charming.

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<v Speaker 5>This storyline feels organic.

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<v Speaker 2>Towards the end of the episode, a drunk uncle Ned

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>blows a job interview and Alex tries to remind him

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of his successful past. Then, in a pretty shocking scene,

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Ned backhands his nephew across the face. Hey give me,

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<v Speaker 2>leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me lave me alone. What the hell are you, Joyce?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry.

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 11>Sorry.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>The Keaton family gives Ned an ultimatum, call AA or

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 2>get out. Ned calls AA, and we never see him again.

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Like all Very Special episodes, everything is resolved five years later.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>A nineteen eighty nine episode of Growing Pains addressed drinking

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and driving, younger sister Carol finds out her boyfriend Sandy

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>was in a car accident. Sandy is played by another

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>soon to be famous actor.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 5>What happened last night?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, this big tree ran right out in front of me,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm gonna be charged with drunk driving.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't understand.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not like we had that much to drink.

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<v Speaker 9>I know.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 8>I mean there's been plenty of times I put away

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 8>a lot more than that.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 5>Nothing happened.

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 9>I guess I just ran out of luck last.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 5>Night, Are you kidding?

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 10>I mean, when you think of what could have happened,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 10>you were really lucky.

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>And so that is Chacy Gold who plays the daughter Carol,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>who's an honor student, so she's usually you know, goody

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>two shoes, I guess. And that's her boyfriend, played by

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Perry. Right, so it takes on a whole other

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>layer of sadness. Let's see how it resolves.

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 9>Carol Sandy just died. Oh my god, he said just

0:28:59.440 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 9>a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Seer, that is the second joke that I have

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<v Speaker 6>ever heard.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm never gonna forgive you.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Now. I went earlier and I looked this is obviously

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 2>on scientific but I looked at comments on YouTube. There's

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>no snark. There are all these comments about how powerful

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>this episode was and what a difference.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 9>It made what happened to his second chance, what I

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 9>happened to his second chance?

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and this is one of the episodes that people

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 6>look to and they say, oh, this stopped me, or

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 6>this allowed me to talk to my kid about drunk driving,

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 6>or this stopped me from having a drink before getting

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 6>behind a wheel.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 5>And I have to say, just the very idea of.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>What happened to his second chance is so profound, and

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 6>it's so simple.

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 5>It's nothing.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 6>It's one line, you know, and it says everything you

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 6>want to say, as opposed to some of these other

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 6>very special episodes that are like, well, you know, there's

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 6>so much verbiage there.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeez. That's such a great point because this seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like the kind of thing a parent tries to

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>impress on a child, and it's really hard to get

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a child to accept that there's not always a second chance.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 6>Yes, because kids think they're invincible. And so when you

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 6>hear another kid almost being like I don't understand, it

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 6>goes right there and it's so understandable and relatable.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>You were saying a lot of these very special episodes

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>were doing parenting for parents, but here something that a

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>parent would say to a child is actually dramatized pretty effectively.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 6>And better in some ways. I think there were conversations

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 6>that parents should have had with children. I have two kids,

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 6>two teenagers now, and there are things that they will

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 6>learn in a way that they will listen to more.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 6>Their ears will open more if they hear it from

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 6>someone their age, if they hear it, you know, coming

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 6>from culture rather than from their mother.

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 5>And this is one of those examples.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>By the way, you interviewed Matthew Perry, right.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 6>I did for his memoir, and then watching this watching

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 6>him play someone who's using alcohol and then who dies,

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, it kind.

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Of takes your breath away a little, and you know,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>people keep saying it. But in that earlier scene he

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>is really good.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he was a good actor.

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 6>He could deliver a line, he had great timing, and

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 6>in that moment you can see that he had the

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 6>potential to play a little bit of drama too.

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, a lot of the shows we've been talking about

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>featured suburban white families, but in the eighties and nineties,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>many millions of viewers were watching black families on the

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Cosby show, Family Matters and The Fresh Prince of bel Air.

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 12>Now this is the story all about him. Well, I'd

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 12>got twins ferns upside down and I'd like to take

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 12>a manager said, right then, I'll tell you how it

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 12>became the prince of a town called bell Air.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is a very special episode from The

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Fresh Prince of bel Air. It aired in nineteen ninety. Okay,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>so over thirty years ago. Will Smith's character and his

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 2>cousin Carlton the wonderful Alfonso Rovero driving in a fancy

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>car to Palm Springs and getting stopped by a cop

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>vehicle registration. Please just a second, But the thing is, officer,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>this isn't my car.

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<v Speaker 8>Get out of the car, Carlon what he's gonna tell

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 8>us to get out of the car?

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<v Speaker 5>You watch too much TV?

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Will get out of the car, officer.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I don't see the need to get.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Out of the car now. Okay. So then they're basically

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>booked into a precinct and then they're released, and then

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>there's this discussion which is really interesting between the Will

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and Carlton characters. Were attained for a few hours.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 8>Dad planned things up, and we were released.

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 9>The system works.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 8>I hope you like that system because you want to

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 8>be seeing a whole lot of during your lifetime, not if.

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I bring a map.

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 8>You just don't get it, do you. No map is

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 8>going to save you. Neither's your glee club or your

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 8>fancy bel air address or who your daddy is, because

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.959
<v Speaker 8>when you're driving in a nice car in a strange neighborhood,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:19.959
<v Speaker 8>none of that matters.

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 9>They only see one thing.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 6>Just the fact that this is still happening. And you know,

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 6>could have beared last week and people would have said, oh,

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 6>this is so timely, is its own tragedy. But it's

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 6>so fascinating that scene and how the writers go right there.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 5>It really is.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>And part of what's also interesting, And look, there's a

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of subtlety of sophistication happening between those two characters.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Right they don't introduce a white bagot character who has

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.479
<v Speaker 2>the conversation with Will. Will and his cousin who's also black,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>are having this disagreement over it, and somehow it seems

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>to have more impact that way.

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I agree. I think it's a really interesting scene.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>A conversation between two black characters about racism. The Very

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.959
<v Speaker 2>Special episode had come a long way since the groundbreaking

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Bewitched episode of twenty years before. But by the end

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen nineties, the very special episode was dead.

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>What killed it?

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 6>I think audiences became kind of too hip to what

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 6>was going on.

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>That's next, Jesse.

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 9>Those pills are dangerous.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was, sois geometry.

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>You told me you were going to stop taking them.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 9>I need them to stay awake and study.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is saved by the Bell. This is an

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 2>episode about caffeine pills. It's sort of like when people

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say Kleenex, they say facial tissue. They

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to use the brand name Nodos here, right,

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>so instead they're talking about caffeine pills.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 5>Anything would be okay. I just need one of these pills.

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 2>And so this is Elizabeth Berkeley's carearacter Jesse, and she's

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>turned to caffeine pills to keep up with her studies

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and her new singing group, which is called Hot Sunday.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really are taking drugs.

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 3>You need them, say, Jessee, you can't sing the night

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 3>you cat.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm so excited.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited scared. Well, first of all, do you

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 2>think they had to pay for the rights? Did she

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>sing enough of the Pointer Sister song that they had

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to pay for it.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 6>I hope, so they should be paying for something. It's

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 6>super subtle. I love when she's like digging around.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 5>She's like pails pills.

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 6>It's no one ever acted that way about nosing their

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 6>lives exactly.

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I was a Jolt Cola person if I needed to

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>finish a paper, but I don't remember getting that excited.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>To be fair, producers had originally wanted the substance Jesse

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>was taking to be speed, but the network wouldn't allow it.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 2>The nineteen ninety caffeine pills episode of Saved by the

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Bell was so memorable it was parodied twenty five years

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>later on Family Guy.

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<v Speaker 12>You actually are taking drugs, Stuet, give me those the contact.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 5>I need them to sing.

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm so excited, I'm so excited, so scared.

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 5>Screech is going to stab someone on Christmas.

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But even by nineteen ninety four, when the movie Reality

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Bites came out, the very notion that a sitcom bore

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>any meaningful resemblance to real life was sadly by gone.

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 9>I just don't.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Understand why things just can't go back to normal.

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 9>At the end of the half hour, like on The

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 9>Brady Bunch or something.

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, because mister Brady died of aides and for most

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>kids growing up in the late nineties and early two

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand's family, our TV seemed alien.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 6>First of all, the idea that your parents would sanction

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 6>your TV watching was donzo, forget about it. I'm watching

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 6>the show I want to watch for me. You don't

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 6>need to know what I'm watching. And so that stamp

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 6>of parental approval of like, we're going to have a

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 6>conversation that adults are going to spoon feed to you

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 6>kind of in your language, but kind of not, there

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 6>was a generation of kids who are like, no, we

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 6>don't do that anymore.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't need to be introduced to this topic

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 2>on my favorite sitcom?

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and just the entire tone of sitcoms changed.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 2>If there was any one sitcom that marked the death

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 2>knell for the very special episode.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 6>Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld would come along saying basically,

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 6>there are going to be no very special episodes.

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 5>That is the very thing that we will never do.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was the quote, no hugging, no learning,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>No hugging no learning, right, So Seinfeld is a series

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>was a stand against everything that the very Special episode

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>stood for.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there will be zero issues, and even in the

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.720
<v Speaker 6>show within the show, that show was also about nothing.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 5>Well, what's the show about?

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 9>It's about nothing?

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>No story?

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 9>Forget the story.

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 2>You gotta have a story?

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 9>Who says you gotta have a story. Remember when we

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 9>were waiting for that table in that Chinese restaurant that time?

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 9>That could be a TV show?

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>How many levels of smart?

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's just it's so so great and thank god,

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean truly, can you imagine if they tried to

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 6>tackle an issue.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Of course, plenty of new series did take on topics

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that were new to sitcoms, but instead of these being

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>handled by ancillary characters in one off episodes, they became

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 2>part of the fabric of the series itself. Take Will

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and Grace, what decades earlier might have been a very

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>special episode about an out gay man living with his

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>straight female best friend, became an entire series. On the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Blackish creator Kennya Barris wove into the comedy issues as

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<v Speaker 2>serious as police brutality and the use of the N word.

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<v Speaker 2>Not surprisingly, he cited Norman Lear as a major influence.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah or even a show like My Crazy Ex Girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean talking about mental health.

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<v Speaker 5>Forget it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, can you imagine it's sitcom in the eighties

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<v Speaker 6>talking about mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that wouldn't happen today. The term very special episode

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<v Speaker 2>is so by gone. It's quaint, used almost endearingly here

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<v Speaker 2>on the ABC sitcom Abbot Elementary.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, if you guys are finished with this very special episode.

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<v Speaker 2>The very special episode could be pretty corny. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>face it, there's only so much any kind of sitcom

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<v Speaker 2>can do to a us some real world problems. When

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<v Speaker 2>Quinta Brunson, the creator and star of Abbott Elementary, was

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<v Speaker 2>asked by fans to consider a school shooting storyline, she

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<v Speaker 2>suggested they use that energy to demand more from lawmakers.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet there's also something to be said about a

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<v Speaker 2>time when families were more likely to watch together and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even learned together. As Norman Lear told me about

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<v Speaker 2>that time, we talked. We looked at the show and

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<v Speaker 2>we talked. He's right. We may have laughed, we may

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<v Speaker 2>have disagreed, we may have cringed, but at least we talked.

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<v Speaker 2>With the exception of the Jesse Saved by the Bell,

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<v Speaker 2>Caffeine pil freak out. I found myself looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these scenes and I don't know, being kind

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<v Speaker 2>of moved by them, Like the good times that mister

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<v Speaker 2>Belvidere grows hands.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, and Tracy Gold is really good in

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<v Speaker 6>that scene. I agree with you there intense and they're

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<v Speaker 6>dealing with complex and profound feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>In the best way that they can in the format.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and in a way that somehow works.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course not almost it comes had very special episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>There was never a very special episode of Three's Company, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what would that have been about? Like about

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<v Speaker 2>rent Control?

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like something could have happened with the roper.

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<v Speaker 6>That was a very special episode waiting to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>A Mumoo accident, for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>It was flammable and the house burned down. Right, let's

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<v Speaker 6>explore homelesses.

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