1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: all your friends, your filthy horse, Your husband's gone, and 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: we've got books on a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: It's books. It's gossip. I'm shook, it's memoir, it's Marteenie. 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: book Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrity book Club, Stay it loud 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: and powd. Celebrity book Club. Buzz Man. I brought the 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: queer foe Hey best friend. Oh my god, Lily Morara, 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Stephen Phillips horsed so good to see you back in 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the whisper room again. I r l in Dumbo, New 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: York downtown where people come to look at bridge. Sweetheart, 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: your name came up yesterday because I was making my resume, 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: which is I'm so about at making resumes. It's it's 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: always been a struggle for you. Yeah, and like the 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: superhero like world, and I don't know much about the 17 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: superhero world. I feel like the one thing that can 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: kill Superman or something like that, if I was like 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: a superhero. Sorry, you looking for the word kryptonite. Yes, 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: you really searching, and just for those of your quincy, 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: you literally were raising your little paws up like trying 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: to find that word kryptonite. Achilles heel is also a 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: great sort of people use. Yeah, throw that around, okay 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: for your famous weakness. So yeah, your achilles heel is 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: going to go ahead and being be making resumes. Yeah. 26 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: My girlfriend looking over and was like, what is going 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: on with the space here? I was like, I'm trying 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: to fix it. But then my sister was also help me. 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: It was a real team effort and we were figuring 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: out the spacing, and she was like, why is Steven's 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: name so goddamn long? So wait, my name is on 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: your resume. Well, because I did reacting credits, okay, and 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I put trailing in. Oh and I was the director 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: as the director Stephen Phillips Horse. I love that. Yeah, okay, 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: so you erased my brother as co director of that project. Yeah, 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean I made in an unreleased video, so it 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of stay tuned for twenty twenty three club kids. 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I made a video filmed by her brother, and I 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: made him join me in the sex scene. Oh yeah, no, 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I've been processing that in analysis for some time using 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: better help. So it's funny that you mentioned proposing a 42 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: grant because I was watching porn last night and I'm 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: just scrolling through pornhub much is this little independent boutique, 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: this little local boutique website that I love to support 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: um as a fellowmaker, and was this porn title was 46 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: like Capital Rioter Invades Fellow Rioters. Ass was so hot, 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: but so it was they run in and they both 48 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: got the and like and they and they're like, whoa dude, 49 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: that was crazy? Did you see when that woman like 50 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: picked up a bat and he's like when that other 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: guy like punched that guy, and like they're acting like 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: they were like so freaked out, this like Protestant violent 53 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and like they had to escape, so sort of drawing 54 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: the line like they were just there, you know, just 55 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of an aerial pink wet, a pink rated sortould 56 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: be a part of something, and that sick man was 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: a revolution. I didn't realize I was going to get 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: that crazy. Yeah, why am I son? Though? So then 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: they realized, yeah, that they're horny, and then they flip fuck, 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: which is crazy. What's flip fuck? Thanks for as Sorry, Yeah, 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I explained that, Uh, yeah, so I know that you 62 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: are super binary and you only top. I mean, oh, 63 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: it mean they do a they both take turns. It's 64 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: if you're a. Yeah, I guess I would just call 65 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: that taking turns fucking each other. But I'm always looking 66 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: for new turns. Turns is taking is like terminology. Do 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: you want to take turns? Do you want to take turns? Cool? Okay, yeah, 68 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: my mom said we had to take turns. You have 69 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: to take turns, fucking me. Okay, but you're already getting 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: turned on by like, let me say, take turns. So 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: actually you're the fucking secco over the types stuff. Um anyway, Yeah, 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean the porn was fine. I was just really 73 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: taken with the plot. No, I'm taken with the plot too. 74 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I kind of wish they'd pushed a little more. I 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: do get into like really like you know, like trailer 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: trash porn, which is let another like category, and like 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: that's hot it to me because that feels a little 78 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: bit more authentic. I mean, obviously, I know it's like 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: all staged and everything's fake, but like I don't need 80 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: all the back storage, need a vibe vibe survive and 81 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: you know what's a vibe. The memoir we read this 82 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: week is I'll just say this the original in cell. Yes, 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: he is the original Reddit angry white Man. Yeah, although 84 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I know not the original angry white man. Certainly not 85 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: the original angry white man. No, no no, but definitely he 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: is so in our modern era, would be in our 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: modern era, invented Reddit. Yeah, he invented Reddit. He's a 88 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: total edge lord Um. Yeah, he's the father of edge lordy. 89 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Of course we're talking about none other than the nimber 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: Ed Kasinski and his book, his book Industrial Society and 91 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Its Future written in the nineties, kids, wi um so much. 92 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Kind of it was called manifesto like that Kate Blanchet 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: like video series Uccessful where I got a splinter. Whoa, yeah, 94 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: I remember why legal get on that. We're suing the 95 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Armors seriously and we had to like find someone get 96 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: the splinter out. Wow, you define like some sort of 97 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: like you were there. I guess you don't remember. I 98 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: don't remember the splinter. I mean I was so taken 99 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: with her performance and maybe if I was more self sufficient, right, 100 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: I could have pulled the splinter. If you have more 101 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: control over your own power process you'd have known to 102 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: pull splinters, but instead you are this like completely I'm 103 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: a follower, slatish leftist who has been like just completely 104 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: shackled by modern society and you can't do anything for 105 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: yourself anymore. So this manifesto, he wrote, yes in his 106 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: little cabin as kind of the reason why he's the 107 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: UNI bomber, Right, this is this justification for sending bombs. 108 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: I want to say in the mail, Yes, in the 109 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: USPS oh, yes, which is a federal crime. I guess 110 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: to send bombs in the mail. Yeah, if you're gonna 111 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: send bomb, do it fads. Honestly, DHL seems super bomb 112 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: to me. I know, if I'm gonna go signature required, 113 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: it's like so many updates. Yeah, DHL screams bomb and 114 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: just the calling the yellow it's very like warning bomb. 115 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Ted Kacynski total classic where it's like he was this 116 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: genius quote unquote. Okay, so this is another thing I 117 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: want to talk about. So he has like an IQ 118 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: of one sixty seven. Yeah, what's your IQ? I'm so curious. 119 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone from the seventies like knows their IQ, 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: but they just like don't do i Q tests anymore. No, 121 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: because it's a fucked up and racist system. But I'm 122 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: just like, low key, what is the IQ? Or they 123 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: like only do it for criminals. It's like big famous criminals. 124 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: We always know their IQs. So I was as dude 125 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: for my I, Oh my god, you who are oh? 126 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Because you were like such a science project as a child, 127 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: all your therapy parrots. We're putting you under like so 128 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: much close observation. You were constantly playing with blocks and 129 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: like a team of like bearded people were just like 130 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: taking notes in like a Cambridge home or like office, 131 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: being like what does this drawing mean? Literally? Is that 132 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: what you still go by? So I was testing not 133 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: only pizza slic football on the walls and crayons, and 134 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: they're just like she could murder. I want to say, 135 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: my Q, this is a total guess. We're gonna have 136 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: to fact check this with my mother. I want to 137 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: say it's like one O seven to twenty Okay, not 138 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: too bad? Yeah yeah, B plus energy And it's very 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: B plus energy. And I was really inspired by the 140 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Annie de Franco song that's spoken word called my Q, 141 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: and it's spoken word about how fucked up it is 142 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: to test your IQ. And it's like they showed me 143 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: two oranges a parent they said which one is different, 144 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: which one does not belong? They taught me different is wrong. Yeah, 145 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: so yeah, Ted is basically like they were like, oh, 146 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: you're so smart. So they were like, you can skip grades, 147 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: which is also something they did in like the fifteen 148 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: and sixties, which they don't do anymore. I feel like 149 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: people whose skip grades are so sad. And that's like 150 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: why he became uniform, right, well, for a few reasons, 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One because they had him 152 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: skip grades. So you're not like socialized, You're not you're 153 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: not like as socialized. And you're also like you don't 154 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: get all the like attention and like confidence of being 155 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: like the smartest kim in the class. Like I remember 156 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: my aunt Laura, she was like skipped a year, and 157 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: I think she went from being like the smartest class 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: to being just like a more normal student, and you know, 159 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: she was already the only girl in the family, Okay, 160 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's further ostracized yea, yeah, just 161 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: like further kind of like it says like, oh, you're 162 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: not as special, and it's just like that's kind of rude, 163 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: and then you're also like a sixteen year old girl 164 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: like in a class of like seniors, right, and so 165 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: you're like high school is already like totally awkward, and 166 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: now she's like a horsewoman. No, which is I don't 167 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: know if she's a lesbian. I mean, I don't think 168 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: she listens to the bod, so it's fine to conjecture. 169 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, well it sounds maybe like she is a 170 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: lesbian and doesn't know just how Ted Kazinski is trans. 171 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: So Ted Kasi's literally trans. I mean I also think 172 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: that either he's he's on botton. He's definitely a bottom, yes, 173 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and so he went trans, or a romantic. He's a 174 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: little a sexual. He's a little a sexual. But I 175 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: actually just think that he's very smart, did a good 176 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: job of not revealing too much of his sexual anxieties 177 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: in this Yes manifesto. But I do think that because 178 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: here's another reason I think he's a bottom. He signed 179 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: up for this this study at Harvard where they like 180 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: humiliated him repeatedly, like verbally, for like two hundred hours 181 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: and like study his psychological reaction, right bottom bottom and 182 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: then sign up to be humiliated. Then he also literally 183 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: like started going like medically trans like this. Well I 184 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: think he was after that like study and then I 185 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know what the right the timeline is exactly, but 186 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: I think right then he visited a psychiatristom was like 187 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: I want to transition, like I'm furious that I was 188 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: born in a male body like and like started to 189 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: and then something snapped and obviously was like the before 190 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: times right, So then he instantly got was like, no, 191 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm so angry at myself for doing that, 192 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: like that's actually so bad and disgusting, and I won't transition. 193 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, everyone's gender journey, it's different, and 194 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: there's no you know, let's stop the swan narrative, right. 195 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: If not, you just start here and then you end 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: there and you're a beautiful fam or vice. Absolutely, maybe 197 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: he just wanted to experiment and didn't have the language 198 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, okay, I want to put on 199 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: a crocheted skirt over pants exactly and be just like 200 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Harvard Square Cambridge they them like one. I mean, yes, 201 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I do think that like maybe if you did grotransy 202 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: would be like, you know, more of a like programmer 203 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: like sweater shot, like a little bit more than current 204 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: like Jeopardy champion. Oh no, I just need then you. 205 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I was like, it's so sad that you couldn't be 206 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: that Jeopardy winner, right and just be like super nerdy genius, 207 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: super nerdyrans woman, And like maybe he would have gone 208 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: down that road. At the same time, I think that 209 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: he probably now is like somewhat satisfied with the choices 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: he's made. Like no, it said, um, he mailed Harvard 211 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: in the Harvard like alumni. He said that, oh wait, yeah, 212 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: this is this is insane. He wrote them, and he 213 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: was like they were he was doing a resume like 214 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: you are resume. I knew it was, and it was 215 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: just like what like professional like accomplishments or like awards 216 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: have you won or something. He was a prisoner, you know, 217 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: he was like eight life sentences, Oh awards, Yeah, like 218 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: go off, be kind to me. It's like whether or 219 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: not he would have gone trans like at a different 220 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: like gender journey today versus the sixties. I think like 221 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: he has a sexual desire. Yeah, he dominated, and I 222 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: don't think that was ever really satisfied. No, And what's 223 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: very pressed about this whole thing. I mean obvious, a 224 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of things. Then he you know, he wrote this 225 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: in his cabin again and then worked in his brother's 226 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: glue factory, and this is so gay. His brother fired 227 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: him because he was sending inappropriate limericks to a female supervisor. 228 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, gay guy harassing a woman with limericks. 229 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Wait literally me in high school? Yeah, like so, and 230 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I think they were seeing it as like, oh, you 231 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: were attracted to this woman and she like didn't have it. 232 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: It's like no, he was probably just being like little 233 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: miss Muffett, like sat on her pussy and like there's 234 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: that one seventeen IQ coming through. Yeah. So I feel 235 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: like the most story is like there's nothing more dangerous 236 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: than an unfucked bottom. Totally true. It's like, okay, so 237 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you're unfucked bottom. So you went to a cabin and 238 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: wrote this thing about how like technology is bad and 239 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: then started mailing timber lobbyists bombs. It's like get fucked. Yeah, 240 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: literally good, but let's get into so let's get into 241 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: a book. So, I mean a lot of the stuff 242 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I was like were literally reading, Yeah, oh no, that's 243 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: so true. Yes, yes, queen, there's a lot of it 244 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: that seems like very just accurate description of the alienating 245 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: effects of technology, of the sort of lies that we 246 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: had to sort of have to spin to make ourselves 247 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: feel comfortable, and you know, a highly surveiled, highly policized, 248 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: highly socialized society, and you know, I think a lot 249 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: of it makes sense. Yeah, here's kind of an early 250 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: line where he's basically saying, like, people think we need 251 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: to have like a revolution against like politicians and movements, 252 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, the revolution is and technology, which is true. 253 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: It's just like yeah, like Amazon or Overlord. So as 254 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: much as you're like vote for this person, it's like, well, 255 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: we're still just like all under fucking like Elon Musks 256 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: and basis rule. Yeah, And I think part of that 257 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: was also, like, you know, he talks about how the 258 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: American Revolution was not really a revolution per se in 259 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: terms of how society operated, Like we on a superficial 260 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: level got rid of British rule over American but it 261 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: did not change the course of how society was developing 262 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: in any way. And he's like, most people just like 263 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: want to be sheep and like want to be followers, right, 264 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: which brings my question to you. Am I a sheep? Yeah? 265 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a sheep or a leader. I think, 266 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, we all have elements of both. I think 267 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll pursue the power process. And so he talks about 268 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: the power process basically, and how modern man is prevented 269 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: from like achieving this sense of like satisfaction and like 270 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: satisfying a certain need to like assert yourself and feel 271 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: independent because basically, like there are so many things that 272 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: we cannot do for ourselves that we cannot provide for ourselves. 273 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, we cannot like get our own food, we 274 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: cannot like provide our own shelters. Not as prevents us 275 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: from ever being able to like do any of those 276 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: things aren't our own. The more and more proliferates, it's like, oh, 277 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: like cars sorted out, Like cars were great, you could 278 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: get from one place another, but then cars become this 279 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: thing that actually choke society. It's like, right now we're 280 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: all ruled by cars, ruled by cars. And now it's like, 281 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you live in the sub as, you 282 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: want food, you have to have a car. So now 283 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: it's a long of this thing that like makes things easier. 284 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: It's like this thing that you are now required to have. 285 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: And then his other thing, this is where he gets 286 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: like so reddit, but like like sometimes he's so often 287 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: like sometimes it's like, well, you are true and are 288 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: just talking about like the most like annoying liberal people. 289 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: He's very anti snowflight. Yes, so he's saying, like all 290 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: these people who say they care about like equality are 291 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: actually fake, which is true. I mean I think most 292 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: people like you know, also with that sort of like 293 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: current dialogues about wokeness are not new, Like the term 294 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: political correctness has been around forever, and I think like 295 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: he basically says, just like everyone who's so concerned with 296 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: like policing other people's language and like only wants to 297 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: just like be hypersensitive and say that like you can't 298 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: say this about this person. You can't say that about 299 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: that person is not concerned with like the material conditions 300 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: of society at all. Well, he has this funny quote 301 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: where he goes, some animal rights activists have gone so 302 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: far as to reject the word pet, yeah and insist 303 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: on replacement by animal companion. This to me is so 304 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: like Rogan Barstool Sports, where it's like, yeah, that is funny. 305 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: But then he's also just been like, oh, so I 306 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: can't say like these words about someone's race, like they 307 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: actually don't care and it's like, you're a white man 308 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: in a cabin, when was the last time you checked 309 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: in with a black person? Wat time in that, Lily, No, 310 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: he absolutely is not checking it. He's not checking in, 311 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: not checking in with the lift experience of black folk. 312 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: And but I think that you know that point that 313 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: it's just like a lot of liberal anxiety comes from 314 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: like a deeper sense that like the people that they 315 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: think are protecting are people that they actually do perceive 316 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: as like inferior, and they're kind of covering up their 317 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: own guilt over that. There's a lot of truth to 318 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: that totally. It's just a right. It does just get 319 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: kind of like Megan McCain in that way where he's 320 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: just being like, actually, now Jerry Seinfeld can't perform at 321 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: colleges because the young kids are too woke and he'll 322 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: get canceled. Well, I think he would also think that, Like, 323 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he would also hate Megan McCain, hate Megan McCain. 324 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: He would hate the fact that she's on the view 325 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: because it's sucking television, Rachelle. But I'm saying he was 326 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: still saying like things like that where it's like he 327 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: is talking about just being like, oh, you can't like 328 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: say anything anymore. But I think he I mean he 329 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: hates conservatives as well. I think he hates Yeah, he 330 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: hates both. He hates with loose conservative because he finds 331 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: them to be both like basically in thrall to the 332 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: idea that technology will save us and he's not very 333 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: critical of capitalism. Yeah. I also, you know, it's like 334 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: if he was in modern times now, like yes, like 335 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: would he be building his own computer possibly, but like 336 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: would he also have a YouTube channel? Yes? And it's 337 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: like I'm me, I'm reading this PDF on a phone, 338 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: tad like right, what now? What now? Like would you 339 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: want want to? Because sometimes I was also getting such 340 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Ja Cutler vibes from him, where it's like he wants 341 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: people to be trad and back to the land, and 342 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he's like it's actually like annoying all these people who 343 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: like goulf and like hunt just for like pleasure, because 344 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: they need to find some stupid hobby to fill their 345 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: stupid lives, Like the aristocracies of Europe are always like hunting, 346 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: And it's just like Jeff Bezos, I'm sure it's like 347 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: motor boating or whatever else he's doing, and he's he's 348 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: like in whatever, like early primitive times, like we hunted 349 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: just because we needed food, and like, oh, this I 350 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: actually found interesting. And he was like men these days 351 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: like don't want to procreate and just like and like 352 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: are just being so like, no, I'm thirty nine then, 353 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: like I don't want kids, and he was like men 354 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: of the past. Yeah, hat didn't think about it. And 355 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like, but again, also ted, like you haven't 356 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: had sex, you're a virtue and you actually just want 357 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: to get fogged. Yeah, I mean he's basically saying that, 358 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: like to pursue your like most basic material needs is 359 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: innately more like satisfying than any of the like crap 360 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: that we come up with in modern society. And like 361 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: if you if your entire schedule was just based around 362 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: like laundry, cooking, gathering, gathering like child really and just 363 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: like fixing your thatched hut, like those sort of basic things, 364 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: then you would be happier, which is what he says. 365 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, I mean, maybe he was happy in 366 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: his unfucked hut, but see I don't think he was, 367 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: but exactly otherwise he wouldn't be fucking writing this manifest 368 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: and he's sending bombs. It's like, so he keeps going 369 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: like surrogate activities. It's like, girl, this is your surrogate activity. Yeah, 370 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: it's like that's what I'm saying. That's why it's so 371 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler like like going back to the land and 372 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: like posting about the hunting and stuff like that, where 373 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: it's like, well you you're josting about it. Yeah, it's 374 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: like you are just being traded as a hobby, right. 375 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And it's like and he's being such like a girl 376 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: boss about it, like being like I'm gonna like send bombs. 377 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get published in the New York Times with 378 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: my manifesto. Right, I'm sending this to Harvard. And it's 379 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: like you still want that approval institutional validation because like 380 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: you are also a cock and like you're a cocked 381 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: man who's not procreating to like fuck with Harvard and 382 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: be like, m it's not hilarious that I wrote that, 383 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: like to the alumni, I don't know. And it's like 384 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: the thing is, it's like if we went back to 385 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: some primitive society where we're only hunting and gathering. It's 386 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: like eventually, Like humans are still gonna want to satisfy 387 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: this like their other like power process needs and like 388 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: start doing other shit and like not just like doing 389 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: pleasure stuff like drinking and fucking, which is on, but 390 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: like they would also like be starting businesses. Absolutely, you 391 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: can't stop humans from ripe being start ups, all startups. 392 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: We have been sandal startups exactly. We have been enterprising 393 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: startup beastness since the end offul Times. This episode is 394 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: sponsored by zok Doc. 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He's like, there's the type of person 430 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: who will like buy anything and are just like so 431 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: hungry and like they're like buying the crap eyewear from 432 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: their sponsored ads. But wait, can I just get this 433 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: part because he kind of like drags me to hell 434 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: and by so he's talking about, yes, people's susceptibility to advertising. 435 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: People vary in their successibility advertising and marketing techniques. Some 436 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: are so susceptible even if they make a great deal 437 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: of money, they cannot satisfy their constant craving for the 438 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: shiny new toys that the marketing hisstry dangles before their eyes, 439 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: so they always feel hard pressed financially even if their 440 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: income is large and their cravings are frustrating. Some people 441 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: have low susceptibility advertising. These are people who aren't interested 442 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: in money material acquisition does not serve their power process. 443 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: Then there's people who have medium susceptibility advertising. But just 444 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: like saying that someone is like me, I know. I 445 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: was like, you're such a medium. I know, I'm such 446 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: a medium. And he's like, are able to earn enough 447 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: money to satisfy their cravings through goods and services, but 448 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: only at the costs of serious effort, putting in overtime, 449 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: taking a second job, earning promotions. That's material acquisitions serve 450 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: their need for power processes, which I feel like it's 451 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: so us because it's like I am like going wild 452 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: at the Essence sale, but only when I feel like, oh, well, 453 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: I did work, like I had like six jobs this month, 454 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: and I like made like a chunk of money copywriting, 455 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: so therefore I can spend this money in essence and 456 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: then I am feeling good, like I've satisfied my must 457 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: for power by acquiring like six streetwear t shirts treat reward. 458 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: By the way Steven's wearing a it's like faux science 459 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: workwear tea, Like it's faux science merch or something. Those 460 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: Western hydro nymic Research, which is very tight kids, and 461 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: Ski is sending a bomb to Western hydrodic Research because 462 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: you're like promoting the use of like rocket technology or 463 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: something like that. And he's like, oh, it's actually like 464 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: two braggadocious to go to space. I mean, I do 465 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: believe that it's two to go to space, which fox space. 466 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I am so anti space. You're wildly anti space. I mean, 467 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There are people that are hungry. Yeah, let's 468 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: figure out Earth first. Yeah, literally, let's figure out Earth first. 469 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Take start with Earth. No, I totally agree, but you 470 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: know that I do love just like big engineering projects, 471 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: dam's mining, like oil rigs, Like I'm very into that culture. 472 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh you having machinery, you aren't oil rigs. I mean 473 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: like jerking off to it or like the technology of 474 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: an oil rig. I just think that there is like crackings, 475 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: just there's an impressive amount of technology that goes into 476 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: those operations. And like I like secretly want to be 477 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: just like a foreman at a site slash like running 478 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: guns for like someone who's trying to destroy working class valor. 479 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: Like working class valor. I'm not even so or just 480 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: like SPI valor. You know what I mean? Yeah, I 481 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: think you want to be more running guns and secretly 482 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: being the foreman. But your CIA, I'm doing it all. 483 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm involved. I just like the idea of like living 484 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: a life beyond my fucking lap. No like click clack 485 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: click collap, I click clack in my railroad because I'm 486 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: like so deprived of my like power process, right, and 487 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: then you're click clack into sence dot com be like, 488 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: let me give myself a treat, Okay. So after that 489 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: this is so in cell to me, where he is like, 490 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: this is actually a cool hobby for someone to do, 491 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: and it's white guy being interested in Japanese stuff. Oh okay, okay, okay, 492 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: But also in yea, guys love Japanese stuff. But not 493 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: every leisured aristocrat becomes bored and demoralized. For example, the 494 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: emperor hero Hitu instead of sinking into decadent hedonism. Again, 495 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: he's like jealous because he's like, it's wrong to like 496 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: fuck and drink wherever devote himself to marine biology, a 497 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: field in which he became distinguished. But I kind of 498 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: think he says that also that was like a random 499 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: waste of time. That was just him like desperately trying 500 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: to do stuff because he wasn't having to like hunt 501 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: to give his life. Meaning yeah, but I think he 502 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: thinks of it as like a little bit better. It's 503 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: a little impressed with that, which is like my T 504 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: shirt Western Nitriate Dynamic Research Facility. Be like, I'm a 505 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit impressed. It's also very George Costanza ge to 506 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: just be like, wait, what's a cool like smart person 507 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: job marine biology? Okay, so I do love this part 508 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: here where he like drags hobbies. Okay. Another way people 509 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: say feather need for power processes through sirius. So this 510 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: is where he like his first introducing surrigate activities, um 511 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. For instance, there is no practical motive 512 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: for building enormous muscles, hitting a little ball into a hole, 513 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: or acquiring a complete series of postage stamps, yet many 514 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: people are in society devote themselves with passion to bodybuilding, 515 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: golf for stamp collecting. I know that was so funny, 516 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: and I was also actually a little bit surprised he 517 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: was anti stamp collecting, right because it's like he's so letters, 518 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: so letters and mail, and it's like I'm sure he 519 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: actually did have like a tiny little stamp and he's 520 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: like he's like that's his porn, and he's like writing 521 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: this and he's and he's just being like, actually, it's 522 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: really stupid if you have a stamp collection and then 523 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: unders like this little book with his little stamps that 524 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: he looks at it night. Did you know that I 525 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: had a stamp collection as a child. I'm sure you're 526 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: not surprised. I am not surprised at all. But in 527 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: binder form yep, it was like in this little like 528 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: photo album binder, and I would like order because I 529 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: had this special like Titanic stamps, like vintage Titanics office. 530 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean always assessed the Titanic's troup and long before 531 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: the movie free movie. Yeah, you're like you discovered the Titanic. Yeah, 532 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I pun punch titan literally discovered me and James camera 533 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, all these like cool retro 534 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: like like Titanic stamps from back in the day. Um. Yeah, 535 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I was mostly titans in my collection, but there were 536 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: some other ones too, like you know whatever, like Queen Victoria, 537 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: this ship and like, but it was all like fancy 538 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: old right, like the old gorgeous drawing. Yeah you maybe 539 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: maybe that would be something that's a hobby that maybe yeah, 540 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: for your dumb little job. Dumb little job, because I 541 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: don't go hunting well, and there's that guy in Ridgewood 542 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: m Ridgewood coin and Stamp. Oh yeah, that guy, and 543 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of like, yeah, he's always a gotta shirtta. 544 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: I could talk to him about Stamp collecting, team up 545 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: with him. I don't know. I mean, he gives me unipo. 546 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know about him. I don't know if zam 547 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: collecting is really the answer. He's so anti leisure and 548 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: like this is where I yeah, he doesn't have a job, 549 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a U. Yeah. It's like you literally 550 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: are such a like spoiled freelancer and I get oh yeah, 551 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: wait wait I wrote some note about freelancers in here. 552 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: It's just like you're just at home, like writing your 553 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: blog all day. And it's like I guess same. But 554 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: like to me, you know, when I think about what's 555 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: the purpose of life, I go back more to the 556 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Marxist idea. Not that I've really read Marks, but I've 557 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: heard about it, and I feel like his energy is 558 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: like actually technology, like it should be helpful. Like the 559 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: problem is that people don't want to mean the production. 560 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: But if you abuse it and like use it to 561 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: like promote equality, but like if we actually did it right, basically, 562 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: like you would be like a bartender one day, a 563 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: fisherman the next, and then like you would have at 564 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: least like a third of the week to just like 565 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: fucking drink and like listen to jazz, right, which is 566 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: the French Yeah, which is like more like champagne socialism, 567 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: and like I think that's kind of more the vibe. 568 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: It's just like we should know how to do more things. 569 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and like we should know how to hunt, 570 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: I guess, and like I do drive stick shift, than 571 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: I am proud of that you do drive stick shift, 572 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: But I think like leisure, it has a huge role 573 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: and we do need to like just have that be 574 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: a bigger part of society. I totally agree, thank you. 575 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: And maybe that does include golf and sand collecting, right, 576 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: although I think golf is actually a very wasteful environmentally. 577 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Well okay, so you know I am inspiring. I do golf, 578 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: yeah don't. I am a golfer, thank you very much. 579 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: But I'm more pro like I'm punk golfer, Like I'm 580 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: more pro driving range bruise. It's like anyone can go 581 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: get a bucket for eight bucks rather than like destroying 582 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: a forest for a golf club that you have to 583 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: pay fucking one hundred thousand dollars a member of here's 584 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: my question, communist golfer, you love just like the bucket 585 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: of Bruce culture. Yeah, you love the bucket of balls, 586 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: bucket of mail. It's like a little bit more maga hot, 587 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: but less like necessarily donating to the Trump campaign, which 588 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: is more golf course. Yeah, let's fast forward. Okay, fifteen years. 589 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Let's say you are rolling in dough. Okay, this podcast 590 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: has morphed into an incredibly successful streetwear brand. We have engagements, 591 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: we have great actually, yes, you're booked speaking engagements. Madrid 592 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: motivational speaker, doctor, honorary doctorate from the University of Cambridge, Bridge, England, 593 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: not not one Cambridge College community. And you have the 594 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: kind of money where you can like afford to tee 595 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: off just like the Sancity Head golf Club on Nantucket 596 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: or just like some gorgeous golf course in Santa Clarita. Um, 597 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: because we now live in La right, are you teeing 598 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: off or are you still being like working class bucket? Okay, 599 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean heard I probably would tea off. Well, there 600 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: we go, there we go. Okay, myself, I probably would 601 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: tea off at one of those clubs, but also I 602 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: may not as much because it's like I don't know, 603 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: that's eighteen holes and it's like you're there for like 604 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: three hundred hours. Okay, So it's really and it's a 605 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: convenience factor for you, like to be able to leave 606 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: when you want. Yeah, anyway, you're right, call me out. 607 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure I would like do a special trip to 608 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: Scotland to their beautiful golf courses, so the Trump Course 609 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like Inverness, yeah, and like Edinburgh or something. Yeah. Um. 610 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Also when he talks about how like we push college, 611 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: which I do think is an issue, and just like 612 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: we are not pushing trade school, I agree are not 613 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: necessarily trade school, but it's just like yeah, not every one. 614 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah hello, it's like we know that doesn't work to 615 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: go into debt for two hundred thousand dollars to pay 616 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: every campaign sis and politicians are always being like both 617 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: on like the right, and it's always like Marcarubia and 618 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: Kamala both just being just in school. We need to 619 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: make trade school more available for more Americans because not 620 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: everyone needs a PhD in the humanities, and everyone's like yes, welders, welders, 621 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: And then it's just like, when does that ever happen? 622 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: It's never happening, And well, right, because I also feel 623 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: like so many well also just don't really want to 624 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: be welders. Yeah I do. And then it's like if 625 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: people do want to weld, then they're like if they 626 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: are like so Ridgewood welders, they're like, oh, I'm going 627 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: to like this random schooling center. That's like also, and 628 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm learning how to make a pizza cross. But like, also, 629 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: apprenticeships are huge too, and I think in the trade business, 630 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you have a friend's dad who's a welder, 631 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: and then you apprentice with him for like two years, 632 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: and then you have to be in the union, and 633 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing that's very I know you're 634 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: very anti union. I'm just saying it's you know, it 635 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: takes a while to get into a union. Okay. I 636 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: do think that this is in many ways an environmental manifesto. 637 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: And even though I think he wrote this, I get 638 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: people knew that, like we were hurting the earth. I 639 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: think the language around climate change was much less specified 640 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: back then. Yeah, I could use a little more of 641 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: the environment from him in this manifesto. Honestly because because 642 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: so one of his bombings was to someone who was 643 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: like a lobbyist to like in the timber industry. So 644 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: obviously you know he was anti foresting, right, instagging, anti logging. 645 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean lots of ancient cultures, Shania 646 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: Twain of shan Tamer lockers. But it's like, yeah, it's 647 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: like if we like ended every factory today and stopped 648 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: making fucking fast fashion fast fashion as a crime. Yeah. 649 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: I bought a four dollar sweatshirt recently, and for the 650 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: first time, I was solid four and I was you 651 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: know that dollar store chain, ABC stores, whatever. Yeah, you're 652 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: just like need it. Well you'll see it a word 653 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: here today. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Yeah, you 654 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: literally have so many sweatshirts. I do have a lot 655 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: of sweatshirts. Um, okay, well you're the problem. I'm sending 656 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: a mail bomb. I know. I guess I was like 657 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: when I bought it, I kind of was like, am 658 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: I the problem buying a four dollars sweatshirt? But I 659 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. It is for the loom 660 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: the problem, right, and I'm the problem. They both the problem. Yeah, 661 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: they both have their issues. Totally. I'd love them, you know, 662 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: they just I now lived him to have less skews 663 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: and we can talk about the amount of skews that 664 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: I think a fashion brand should have because it's like 665 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: you're making too much stuff, You're making too many sizes. 666 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Were for the Loom, I feel like they make kind 667 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: of blank teas merchads, you know. So it's different RH 668 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: and M is, you know, throwing out maybe if the 669 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: different trendies, Well, well, Trudal Loom is doing a service 670 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: for those of us who do want to produce merch 671 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: whereas H and M is making a shirt that says, 672 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: I passed by the H and M on my way 673 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: to ABC stores and it's just like full of sublime 674 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: hoodies that I don't think the families of Bradley Knoll 675 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: are getting rip. Yeah, no, I'd love to know what 676 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: the estate is making up of that. I mean, H 677 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: and M. They probably have to do some legal Yeah, 678 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: they have to license that. Oh wait, sorry, other line 679 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: that I that I have highlighted here, that's so nerdy. 680 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: He goes Holy Robots just random. At some point, I'm like, 681 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: that's so like trivial. The show that I watched on 682 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: a plane the other day that everyone always watches on 683 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: a plane Big bang theory. Yes, yes, it's a very 684 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: big bang theory. So you know, Janet Reno is the 685 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: one who pushed to get this published. Oh yeah, good 686 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, well because because he publishing Queen Janet Reno. 687 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: So he basically said, I will stop sending the bombs 688 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: if you publish this in your Times, and which Janet was, no, 689 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not promoting this, but if you want to get published. No, 690 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: it's true, Um, it can be. Really the hustle is 691 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 1: hard and you got m and she was like, yeah, 692 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: let's fucking let's get this Baet on the air. Let's 693 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: stop the madness. And so then he publishes it in 694 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: the Times, and then his brother, Avid Times reader, recognized 695 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: his writing style and reached out to the FBI and 696 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: that's you're racing something from the story. His brother's wife, 697 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: a woman, was like, this is your brother. You have 698 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: to read it and persuaded him and he and then 699 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: the brother was like, obviously he didn't want to read it, 700 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: and then read it and was like, yeah, this is 701 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and be my psycho brother. Wow, wait, okay, 702 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: go off. Wife. It is also that thing of just 703 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: being so oh, like my sister in law, she's like 704 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: on my case. Yeah, I mean, watch out, the sister 705 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: is the one sending you to jail. And I watched 706 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: the Netflix, the dramatized Netflix show about him like three 707 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: years ago, called like man Cave. It's called oh right, 708 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: because it was like apparently the most expensive manhunting. It 709 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: was fifty million dollars the FBI spent. I'm sorry, that 710 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: is that crazy blowing? What the fuck did they spend 711 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars on? I've never got this about the FBI, 712 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: And I would say this, like, I know they need 713 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: to get like so much evidence, Like you know, it's 714 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: like they're always working on like arresting some mafia don 715 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: for like nine hundred years, and it's like, don't you 716 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: have that evidence already? Just go get him. Well, but 717 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: and see, this is the thing about the end. But 718 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: this is why I don't like the FBI, because the 719 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: FBI doesn't actually want people to not commit crimes. They 720 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: just want to keep during their jobs and doing the 721 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: strings they want to do strings. I mean, hello, they're 722 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: always they're always literally just like making up crying for 723 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: like Muslim teams just like and trapping them and like 724 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: selling them bombs and then arresting them with nothing, no corc. 725 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: That's how they keep their quota up so they can 726 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: keep on being strings with Mafia and Cereal Gillers. Yeah, 727 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: like they are literally always inventing crimes and like inventing 728 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: criminals and like fully coerciing. And we are not fans, 729 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: although I do think that you should apply. Yeah, I 730 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: have been. I don't know if you've been following my Instagram, 731 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: but I've been getting a lot of emails from the 732 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: FBI saying I should apply. And I was really shocked 733 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: by the salary. It was like sixty to eighty. K. 734 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,479 Speaker 1: Do you think that's low or high? I think that's 735 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: low for what I thought the FBI. But I guess 736 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: that's so like cheat level position. I think with seniority 737 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: you can I'm sure you're making six figures, right, But 738 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: I guess that goes along with the stereotype of the FBI. 739 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: You're in your cheap polyester suit, you know, pushing papers. 740 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: Scully and Moldar. It's like they're living in like you 741 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: live in a bare bones apartment. You're just like getting coffee. 742 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing in your cabinet coffee. Yeah, your personal life 743 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: is hanging on by a threat. God damn it. You're 744 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: your job, feeding the cat before your feed, before yourself, 745 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: but you're addicted to the job. Yeah. So yeah, fifty million, Okay, 746 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: fifty million a lot of money. Um, what was the 747 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: ending note? So here? Then he does a final note 748 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: where he kind of backtracks, and that brings me back 749 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: to the trans thing. His last thing he says, is 750 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: it is important to understand that we mean someone who 751 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: sympathizes with these movements as they exist in our society. 752 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: One who believes in that women, homosexuals, et cetera should 753 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: have equal rights is not necessary a leftist. The feminist 754 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: gay rights movements that exist in our society have the 755 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 1: particular ideological tone that characterizes left it. If one believes, 756 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: for example, that women should have equal rights, it does 757 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily follow that one must sympathize with the feminist 758 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: movement as it exists today. Right, And this is him 759 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: just being kind of like a normal Reddit reddit like, yeah, 760 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: progressive red scare leftist who's kind of just like, Okay, 761 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm not integral bust feminism, but just like, actually, like 762 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: women are fab and like I am a faggot, and 763 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,959 Speaker 1: like I do support like women hunting. I mean that's 764 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: also a thing. I'm just like, so in his ideal society, 765 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: I guess it's more just like an ancient proto society 766 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: where everyone is hunting. But like because he references women 767 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: hunting and he goes, I won't get into that here, 768 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, why not, Yeah, let's go there, batch. 769 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably pro like Amazonian women society. Yeah, 770 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that would actually take away from his 771 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: point if he was just like, lionesses are actually the 772 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: ones who hunt in the jungle. Yeah, you know we 773 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: also because then he also kind of skipped over and 774 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry he'll be like, I'm yes, like in ancient 775 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: like Aboriginal society, is there is like abuse of women, 776 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: but there's less than modern society. It is kind of 777 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: just like, where are the facts, babe, A little more facts, 778 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: because I'm just like a lot of ancient non technological 779 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: societies like did have all the problems that we have now, 780 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: and which you know is a point that he's also 781 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: like making many times. So it's kind of just like 782 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily better? Although I will say he thinks that 783 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: like modern surveillance or whatever makes life feel less free, 784 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: and as someone who has experienced ancient civilizations by playing 785 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: historical fiction video game Assassin's Creed, Like, so you were 786 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: going to say someone who has been surveillance, well, I've 787 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: also been surveilled heavily by the government as the same 788 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: seven eleven home depot and now that spot I pointed 789 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: out this manifesto at Staples. I think that you're going 790 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: to I'm absolute spies on you. But like what the 791 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: pointing he makes is like, yes, like those were you 792 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: could say those are oppressive societies or monarchies or dictatorships, 793 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: but because there weren't security cameras everywhere, and like you 794 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: were actually more free. You were more free, and like 795 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: Instagram isn't taking down your fucking post in ancient Rome 796 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: and you can like chisel whatever you want on your own, right, 797 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: I think you're free because you can like go to 798 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: Sweet Green, get whatever salad you want, and then like 799 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: but like you literally can and then there are being 800 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: so no substitutions, and an ancient Rome you could just 801 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: like kill a random pain and be like yes, lamb 802 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: all the substitutions. Yeah, mint an Salantro and Rosemary segment bombs. 803 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: What does she eat? What does she lay? How does 804 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: she live? I was mess it up because I'm outsider. 805 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: You're a fucking outsider. Okay, what does she eat? What 806 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: does she eat? Like I mean I'm speaking just like 807 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: cans of Dantye Moore stew Yes. I don't think he 808 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: is hunting. I think it's I think it's tuna cans 809 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: and spam and canned like green beans, corn, creepy cans 810 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: of corn, cream of corn. It's canned central over there, 811 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: Goya Towers. Really, I don't think he's like going down 812 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: to the creek and even building himself efficient. No, he's 813 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: not being cheering day to do that into the wild 814 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: that book slash film. I think that he knows how 815 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: to set traps um. I mean, maybe we're totally erasing 816 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: and he has this whole like outdoorsman vibe, right beaver thing. 817 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: Like the thing is if he actually and see this 818 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: goes back to the like the sort of game. So 819 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: he's not a foodie, he's not the gay hypocrisy at 820 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: the heart of this where it's just like if you 821 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: were actually like so trad and hunter and like didn't 822 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: care about surige activities and getting all this validation for 823 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: your own like lack of power process in modern society, 824 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be sitting around writing this book for attention, 825 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: like you would just be hunting and be chilling and 826 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: like maybe be so Henry David Threau, which no, no, 827 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: no no, as my dad famasy called out, no no, 828 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: let's bring it out, because he said Henry Vithroau like 829 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: went home every week into his mom's house or whatever 830 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: his mother to do his laundry on a washboard. I'm 831 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: just like you spoiled a little bitch, right. You were 832 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: not living simply. You were literally just cosplaying as a 833 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: Cabinese again like green Point freelance, like writing your blog 834 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: and then putting all your lundry and your like vintage 835 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: to brew that was just like gifted to you by 836 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: your parents. No, absolutely, and you're being so like typewriter's 837 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: like paying rent with your fun trust fund. So yeah, 838 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: he is kind of that vibe of fake, asked the 839 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: row Boots. Yeah, but yeah to the food question, I 840 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: guess I'm also wondering if he's so like when I 841 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: think of like, you know, the modern redditista, and we 842 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: think of like friend of the Pod Brad Tramouth, for example, 843 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: who loves like credit culture. He is so like steak. 844 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: He's a steak Keto, isn't he He's like Keto and 845 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: he's just like smooth like whatever, like smoothies and like 846 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: random Keto drinks and like powder proteine powder and like 847 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: CBD like beers and like sorry, okay, okay, producer Meg's 848 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: broad does not Keto. So he likes he likes steak meat, yeah, 849 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: meat forwards. So I feel like if we sort of 850 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: reverse engineer with the seventies version of that is it's 851 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: like pre slim Fast or actually no, maybe he is 852 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: into slim Fast. My oh, because okay, he actually loved 853 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: slim Fast. This is why he's This is why he's 854 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: slim Fast. Because I feel like it is such a 855 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: like intellectual like guy I think to due to be 856 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: like I don't clean or cook because I'm too busy 857 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: being a genius, so like lives in squalor and is 858 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: like I don't need food. I just drink soilent and 859 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: slim Fast and so I can think more, Yes, why 860 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: waste time on this pursuit? And yet it's like if 861 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: he were being honest to his own Like Creed, he 862 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: would be spending a lot of time cooking, right, grilling 863 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: a gorgeous fish. Like I actually think that someone like 864 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Alice and Roman is really more to the land living 865 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: at Ted Kaczynski life in her like upstate. Yeah, because 866 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: she's spending so much time like satisfying her essential needs 867 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: and she's getting a lot of pleasure or a lot 868 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: of like sense of power and satisfaction out of cooking 869 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: and like making food, and she's like doing the basics 870 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: of life. This just an alson Roman. It is the 871 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: uniform will end on that. Okay, how does he live? 872 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: So we know, just in a creepy cabin, but he 873 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: didn't like make his cabin, so that is impressive. Okay, 874 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: so I think he was a bill holding logs. Is 875 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: it so like moosehead on the wall. It's just I 876 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: think it's more piles. It's just piles and books, unlike 877 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: creepy will blanket and books he's read a thousand times. 878 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: Is there like a framed photo? Is there like one 879 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: like civil war paraphernalia thing? I bet he does have 880 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: like one happy family childhood photo. Oh so dark and 881 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: creepy from a time before he got hives. Yeah, before 882 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: the hives for Harvard. Is he so like it was 883 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: beard oil? Like, oh yeah, he's definitely because it's like 884 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: he has such a beard and crazy hair, and I 885 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: think he is like trimming it with like a knife 886 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: that he whittled down. I mean he's now becoming this 887 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: like twenty ten Williamsburger at the start. I do think 888 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: he's a little more like build your own computer radio 889 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: shock vibes. You keep mentioning this build your own computer 890 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: because he's is the type of person that would build 891 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: his own PC. Okay, oh he's so, I'm getting a 892 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: Gateway PC. Sorry, Windows actually works better. It's for funky folks, 893 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: funky gayway folk. Okay, he's got a Gateway PC in 894 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: his cabin. Anybody has some books, like stolen from the library, 895 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: taking out a book and not returning badass again for 896 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: a centfold. Okay. What does he wear? What does he wear? Yeah, 897 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm like imagine it's just so like dusty professor tattered 898 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: ella bean. Do you think that he is turtlenecks in 899 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: this gayway or no? Because being so turtleneck and like 900 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: this old blazer and then like at night he's putting 901 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 1: on just like you know, such a like a thrifted Patagonia. 902 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: I honestly don't think he's turtleneck. I think they would 903 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: like aggravate him too much in this hives way. Oh 904 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: he hives trigger, So like that's a trigger. I'm gonna 905 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: start like stimming if I put on it. Well, his 906 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: parents almost did have him study for autism and then 907 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: like they did in or something. Um, this is also 908 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: a very movie. I recently watched them Plane The Accountant 909 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: where Beneffleck. Um, I've been wanting to watch the movie 910 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: for a year. Yes, honestly, it slaps. I watched it 911 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: was the second time I'd seen it, and I was like, yeah, anachndrack, 912 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: isn't it? Um, It's good, Okay, he plays like an 913 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: autistic like accountant for like criminals. Right, And last week 914 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: you recommended a different Beneffleck movie to me, as you know, 915 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: as a supporter of j Loo, I had. Now I'm 916 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: a big fan of Beneffleck as part of the extended 917 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: General Universe, so I will a huge ben fan over here. 918 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's It's like ll bean lands 919 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: and tattered shirts and sweaters has a few. Obviously they smell, 920 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: and I bet he does like wash them in the river, 921 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: not with a really like maybe one bar of Irish 922 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: spring that he's like rubbing on pants like once a year, 923 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: maybe dial Yeah, nice, really drying soap, oh yeah, and 924 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: he's so dry. He wants moisturizer, but he won't admit it. 925 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: He does really wants to moisturize, but he doesn't want 926 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 1: to use fucking products of modern society like native Yeah, okay, 927 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: self care the right way. Who are you in the book? 928 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, as we discussed, I'm the like person with 929 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: the media medium propensity or medium susceptibility to advertising. You're 930 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: definitely that. I mean I think I'm a medium too, 931 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: But I also think i'm like I am like a 932 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: fake leftist who wants to golf on the weekends. Yeah, 933 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: for sure. The stamp collector over here, it was my collection, 934 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: me being like voting rights. Yeah, no, I mean you're 935 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: so like I feel like you're very like I don't know, 936 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: Charlotte's daughter, Lilians of the City, or just like any 937 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: like Park Slope daughter who's like you going to the 938 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: room and there's like so much just like a little 939 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: like yes, we can, Like, Okay, I am not Yes, 940 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: we can, dolls, aren't I rock Charlotte's non binary awesome 941 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: child who wants to like frame along board. No, No, 942 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: because you're married and you fucking live in dit miss. 943 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm not your fucking sellout dit miss? Is this? I mean, 944 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: dit Miss is so de list and like almost ten 945 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: kids in Suki to me, I mean I do in 946 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: my personal opinion, it is so yes, you do live 947 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,240 Speaker 1: in a cabin in the woods. As far as I'm concerned, Okay, 948 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: I give this manifesto, I don't know, like three out 949 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: of five bombs, I'm like two point five bones. I'm 950 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: like you said it. I also feel like, I don't 951 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: know he's trying to be this philosophist, but I think 952 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: it is. I think the writing's pretty good. I think 953 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: it's not too long. The page count I loved, like 954 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: theory books are so fucking boring and they spend like 955 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: six page just being like, this is what I'm going 956 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: to talk about, and here are some other theorists that 957 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: I think about that I might not mention, but I 958 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: am like interested in the world, and we were just like, 959 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: get to the fucking point already, you stupid bitch. No, 960 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: he did get to the point. At first, I was like, Oh, 961 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: I actually wish you talked about like I was kind 962 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: of like craving a little more of a memoir experience, 963 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: being like I wish you talked about what bombs you 964 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 1: wanted to send to the timber lobbyists. But then I 965 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, cool and mysterious vibes. Respect Also because 966 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: I think he wants the Manifesto to be able to 967 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: live on its own morals and idea and not be 968 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: like connected to his personal deities and like, to that extent, 969 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: I think it's effective, like a lot of the parts 970 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 1: of it, So kudos to him. You know, he wrote 971 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: an update recently to like include computers as you're obsessed, 972 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: well local it expert laid trade school tech. So i'd 973 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 1: be interested in reading the sequel or I guess like, yeah, 974 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: I would definitely wreck this to people and be like 975 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: it's actually a quick reader if you just sit down 976 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: in java up. My only thing is that I was 977 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: wondering but I have really no knowledge of this because 978 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: like don't read philosophy. I was like, as a lot 979 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: of this stuff like kind of stolen ideas. Wow, yeah, 980 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean there is. It is a little bit like 981 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: set your work boots in here, and I'm just like, yeah, 982 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: that's where I was like oooh like and everything is 983 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: stolen stolen valor, Yeah, like your shirt, stolen science valor, 984 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: stolen engineering, massive engineering projects, hydro electric damns, et cetera. Well, 985 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: well this was a gas. This was a true gas 986 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: and a real stick of dynamite. No pun intenda. I'm 987 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: so glad we did this. True crime hive. Come at us, 988 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: let us know if we were right or wrong. We 989 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: were probably wrong in many ways, but isn't that what's fun? 990 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: Make mistakes. Yes, I love making mistakes with you. This 991 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: is how we're in control. And this is being vulnerable. Yes, 992 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: and you know what in the modern times, yes, you 993 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: know what we hunt. We hunt for gossip, Yeah, we 994 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: hunt information. Yes. Kudos to him from making his art 995 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like, well, a lot of people say, oh, 996 00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: I would love to just move to a cabin and 997 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: write a book. Look he did it. Yeah, Okay, Actually 998 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: what a lot of you are talking about. He went 999 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: and followed his dreams. So if you can think it, 1000 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: you can dream it. So for dream you can do it. 1001 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: Real boss vibes inspo. Thank you so much for joining 1002 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: us on this wild episode, on this wild m Usps journey. 1003 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: On the next episode will be our club Kid Valentine's 1004 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 1: Day Hotline episode. That's right, the love line is open. 1005 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,240 Speaker 1: You've sent in your calls or we're gonna be answering 1006 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: them live on the air. All of your romantic foibles, questions, concerns, anecdotes, 1007 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: and your sexy sexy stories will be aired. Find that 1008 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: phone number on our Instagram. 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