1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Let's give this. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome in Side hour three The Jason Smith Show 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Ah, the Spurs putting 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: the finishing touches on what is going to be a 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: one oh seven ninety one win over the Lakers. Lakers 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: playing tonight without Lebron James, who basically sat out because 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: he's old. Yeah, I mean these are his words, yeah, 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: back to back in me, I don't know they go together. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm forty one. What do you want from me? Your Spurs? 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: But uh uh, you know, looking at the game on 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: here and they're using and the Spurs use their uh 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: their N season tournament floor tonight right with all the 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: with all the different things on it. You know what 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: it reminds me of and I couldn't think of it. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I look at the floor and you see 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: all the and I don't know what all the different 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: UH designs are supposed to to, uh, you know, commemorate. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm for tied. I don't know what they are, but 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: you know what they look like is remember that game 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Perfection when you're a kid, where where it was the 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: timer and you had to take all the little pieces 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: and put them in the right thing and then if 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: you didn't do it in time, it exploded. Yeah, Like, 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: that's what the it looks like. That's where some of 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: those pieces are. It looks like some of those pieces, 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Like that's what the shape of the that that that 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: are in on the floor look like pieces from Perfection. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Oh it's 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: a Perfection floor. Okay, great, that's funny. Uh it looks 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: like right now, speaking of Perfection, UH, there's a bit 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: of a back and forth at center court following the game. Uh. 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: They ESPN had to delay the interview with when Be 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: following the UH Spurs win just seconds ago. Looked like 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: members of the Spurs, remember the Lakers, drawn back and 43 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: forth and jaded. Vanderbilt might have been in the middle 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: of it. Now, no punch is thrown or anything else, 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: but it definitely looked like there was some yapping going 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: on back and forth between both sides. 47 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: We also kind of looked like they were trying to delay, 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: and they were a little salty, Vanderbilt in particular, because 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: they have the victory drum that they bang for their 50 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: you know, and they bring out the giant gong looking 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: thing after after home victories, and he was kind of 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: getting in the way of that. Wow, most of the 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: guys were standing around laughing and he's getting held back. 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: But were they laughing or were they going, Hey, everybody, 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick your ass, but I'm gonna smile and 57 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: a smile and be really nice courts? Yeah, yeah, like 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Jimmy Dugan from a league of their own kiss my 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: my big. 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: Wait. 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Wait, so again, the Spurs went on their court on 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the perfection court should say that the perfection court, with perfection, 63 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: you gotta move up fast, move up fast before the 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: pieces pop out, before you put in the last And 65 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: that's perfection. I mean, really something jingled diffection, I still remember, 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. This is when toys used to run 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: jingles and commercials all the time. 68 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: Well and repetition be singing it at the dinner table 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: when your parents would go, you are watching way too 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: much television. 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Ja wait, just just think about that one. Think about 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: pop gun. What the hell are you singing? When at 73 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: execs would sell would sell packages, going hey, what do 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you what do you have for this week? Yeah, okay, 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna BUYU. We want forty five commercials 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: in the ten o'clock hour Monday through Friday, going into locals. 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great, we'll get them. We'll get that toy. 78 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: We'll get Perfections. It's it's gonna be Christmas. We'll get 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: three Perfection commercials in every single night. We'll get it 80 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: for Dynasty. We'll get it for Falcon Crest. We'll put 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: it in for Dallas. We'll put it in for Knats Landing. Wow, 82 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: what am I missing? We'll put it in for the Colbys. 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Get cold? Did I get off? Did I get you 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Colby's in? That's impressive, wasn't there? Was there the Carringtons too? 85 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: They do the Carringtons. They might have Okay, Colby's definitely 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: worth it. Okay, because they just had the anniversary of 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago, and this week there's the 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Big Hollywood Show where they get a bunch of folks 89 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: in the convention center that were stars in the sixties, seventies, eighties, whatever, 90 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: yea autographs. Yeah, Joan Collins's gonna be there. 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, because she was also on guess this Batman 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: back in the sixties. 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: Batman. I'm Batman. So I mean look at that, I'm Batman. 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: You know you want to there? Oh wow, you can 95 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: buy perfection? Very nice? My card? How about that? Very nice? 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: Uh? 97 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Now you want to know something really crazy, I'll tell 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: you this story really fat just thinking about Dynasty. So 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I never got to watch those shows when I was 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: a kid. Right, I never got to watch because they 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: were on too late. Right, they were on at ten 102 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: o'clock at night, and I I you know, I had 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: to go to bed and I couldn't watch anything. 104 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: See. 105 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: Those are the only exceptions my mother would make. Yes, 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: really no, no, you I want to watch dopey soap operas. 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I watch. 108 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: You're like, well, I want to stay up late. Okay, 109 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: I get to watch Dallas because I think Dallas was 110 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Sunday nights at nine. Right, this is where and this 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: is where when I was I'm like, uh, I like 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: to watch Dallas. Why because I like Charlene Tilton and 113 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: Victoria Principal. 114 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I really doesn't love Victor Charlene Tilton and Victoria Principle. 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: But it was really I never think because my grandmother 116 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: used to watch Dynasty and and I was, Okay, this 117 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: is really weird. But so I'm like nine, ten years 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: old whatever, and I realized, oh, is it Charlie Tilton 119 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: this show? No, but she had watched Dynasty, and for 120 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: some reason, one night I was able to stay up 121 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: late and I got my first glimpse of Linda Evans, 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, I think I like Linda 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Evans most of all. And my grandmother was just so 124 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: floored by that because Victoria Principal and Charlie Tilton were 125 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: like in their mid twenties, so they get you know, 126 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: they were the twelve like Linda Evans at that point, 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I think was in her forties. And I'm like nine years, 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: ten years old you and I remember Grandma looking at 129 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: me going, you like Linda Evan yet, like she was 130 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: so glamorous, her hair was great, she was here tugar, 131 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: I love it. And I remember I could. 132 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 3: Hear her one time on the phone with my mom, 133 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 3: like a couple of days later, saying he really wanted 134 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: to watch Dynasty. He really liked Linda Evans, Gloria Jean 135 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: uh did the she is? Is that okay going? 136 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: She was thirty nine in the uh in the first 137 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: A little weird bock. Yeah, I like Linda Evans. Oh yeah, 138 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you like what you like? Man? Uh? You all listed 139 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: the hottest people from soaps of the eighties right now, 140 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: eight seven cents. 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: We can we can get responses. And how about a 142 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: fresco at swollen up? You want to add? Sit comes in, 143 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: bring it in, Ash. 144 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Charlen Tilt the Victoria principle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh so 145 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: today Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, the Harbor. 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: With Jim, the one that's still employed, Jimmy Jimmy by Jim. 147 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: Jim Harball weighed in on the employment status of his 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: brother John uh Ball, who of course was let go 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: as as Raven's head coach after eighteen years and now 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: doing the circuit to interview for his next head coaching guts. 151 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: Did you see the bit that was being reported that 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: it had to be termed a firing because otherwise it 153 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: was going to cost him fifty five. 154 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Million dollars again, because it was what did we say 155 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: when it first comes out? It was they've mutually decided 156 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: to part ways and an hour later, no, he's fired. 157 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Wait wait something what happened in that hour? And now 158 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: we know we said it last night. We're ahead of 159 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: the car. 160 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: We're financial guys, we're ahead of the cuts financially. We 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: knew there's something up here with why that was changed 162 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: after because it can't be where suddenly we hate Jim Hart, 163 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: we hate John Harbaugh. 164 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: There's something that happened there and now you know, oh wait, wait, 165 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: we were on the we're on the hook for that 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: money money. We fired him? Ye say, we fired him. 167 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: So Jim Harbaugh waited in today on John's employment future, 168 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: and maybe he's trying to make it happen, putting out 169 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: there in the universe what he hopes happens for his 170 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: brother for next year. Coach. 171 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 5: I know, that's coach I've ever seen. And he may say, okay, 172 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: well I'm his brother, so I might be biased, but uh, well, 173 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: then you have somebody like Tony Dungee. Wouldn't we all 174 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: like that, you know, wouldn't we all like somebody like 175 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: Tony Dungee, especially Tony Dungee himself to you know, say 176 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: that it's just it's it's great, you know, seeing that 177 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: kind of outpouring and uh of support and also just 178 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: it's just so cool see all my brother's accomplishments, you know, 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: and be and be recognized for that. And you know, 180 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: I just as I told him, you know what, whatever 181 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: team he goes to is going to be formidable. 182 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: And I just hope it's in the NFC. So I 183 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: hope it's in the NFC. Now as coaches are starting 184 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to make their rounds, we'll start to play matchmaker here 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: because it's one of the most fun things to do. Sure, 186 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: and right now it looks like Kevin Stefanski potentially John 187 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Harbaugh at the top of the list for the Giants, 188 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: But that's not the fit I see for John Harbaugh. 189 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: Harbaugh is someone who what have we seen him do 190 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: over the last eighteen years? Right, He was able to 191 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: in a never ending changing of skill position players to 192 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: keep the Ravens at the top of the AFC. They 193 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: never got over the top in the Lamar Jackson era. 194 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: But he's a pretty good offensive coach. He's got a 195 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: pretty good cachet. He's got a Super Bowl and he's 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: got the current. Hey, guess what coaching Lamar Jackson last year. Now, 197 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't want him anymore, Okay, but we've seen 198 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: him succeed. The best fit for him is in Atlanta. 199 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta needs someone with that cachet that gets all this 200 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: young talent and can smooth out all the questions you have. 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Is it Michael Pennix Junior? Is he great? What do 202 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: you do with Kirk Cousins. You gotta find a way 203 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: to get all this talent on the same page. Because 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: doing things like beating the Bills and the last week, 205 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, winning the last couple of weeks after you know, 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: falling on their face middle of the season, you know 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons have the talent, right, It's not suddenly where Hey, 208 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: you know they're not as good as we thought they were. 209 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: You saw over the course, say, oh no, the Falcons 210 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: are town. They have the best running back in the NFL. 211 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: So you need someone with that cachet that everybody will 212 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: listen to, that will come in with a system and 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: an idea that's going to get everybody on the same page. Hey, 214 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: this guy knows what he was doing. He just had 215 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: how many AFC North Division titles, He's won the Super Bowl, 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: He's coached Lamar Jackson. He knows what it is to 217 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: coach a modern NFL offense. We've seen him do it. Yes, 218 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: snake bit sometimes a missed field goal, he still has 219 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: his job. A catch by Mark Andrews in the playoffs 220 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: last year, maybe he has his job too. Less interceptions 221 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: two years ago by Lamar Jackson, Maybe he's got his job. 222 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: So the Falcons being a team that, hey, you need 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: someone with cache to someone come in and listen to, 224 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: because not anybody can go in there in Atlanta because 225 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: again I told you, Atlanta's not the job you think 226 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: it is, because you're not set up to succeed because 227 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues. So when you have someone 228 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: coming in that, oh right away, Bang, I'll flip the switch. 229 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: He's a guy I'll follow, right. Jim John Harbaugh is 230 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: that guy for at Land. He's a much better fitment Land. Yeah. 231 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: I think a lot of it becomes who's you want 232 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: to bring in as is coordinator? Right, originally special teams guy, 233 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: and you talk about, you know, never really bottoming out. 234 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: They had a couple of rough goes over eighteen years. 235 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: But for the most part you're up near double digit wins. 236 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: And part of the acrimony and where we're at and 237 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: what's real, what's imagined, how much we're players. 238 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, you can still be sad, still want someone gone, right. 239 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: I think a lot of relationships out of like I 240 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: love you, but this doesn't work for XYZ. You know, 241 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: it's the same thing here with Harball. People are like, oh, 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: I refute it because the players were crying. No, they 243 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: might have personal relationship with this guy, and it's just 244 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: it was time to move on Atlanta. Hiring a consulting 245 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: firm to help kind of run everything is problematic. That 246 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: always gets a little bit mealy and problematic and all 247 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: of that. But you got me Jean Robinson, You got 248 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins to restructure his deal. You have a defense 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: that looks like it could fly around and be pretty good. 250 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: Maybe one of more pieces there. You gotta figure out 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: whether Kyle Pitts comes back, if you're gonna franchise, tag 252 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: him or pay him top of market. So there's a 253 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: lot of decisions to be made. But of all the jobs, 254 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: if the Giants isn't I mean the Giants is just 255 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: the de facto outside of dealing with ownership, which seems 256 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: like that's kind of divolved from once at what it 257 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: once was in terms of those relationships. Even though they 258 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: keep Joe Shane. Do you want to work with Joe Shane? 259 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: Does his track record say I want to work with 260 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: this guy? 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna call you Ld? Why call 262 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: me Ld? I'm js no LD, lame duck. I'm calling you. 263 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 264 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: Like if I go in there and I can say, 265 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: all right, you blow that guy out, and I. 266 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Joe Shane has brought in a lot of talent. So 267 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I get why Joe Shane keeping his job of the 268 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: two of them, I get it because, well, whoever comes 269 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: in is coming in ready made with a lot of talent. Yeah, 270 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: he ended up being the fall guy for that whole 271 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley thing that looked a lot worse on the 272 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: hard Knocks than it actually was. But yeah, I mean 273 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta again, we go to a division where you can 274 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: go and win, Like, I think that's the bottom line. 275 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: You're looking at the board and saying I can go 276 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: take this division over. Yeah, I'm telling you. The fit 277 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: for John Harbaugh the Atlanta Falcons. Go Harbag, go Harball. 278 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: Go Yeah, No, I don't immediately look and go, Hey, 279 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: did the Chargers play the Falcons next year? 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: But exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason 281 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Smith Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: As Mike Carmon frantically looks at next season schedule, has 283 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: to get rid of the perfection game board. That is 284 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: that was pretty good though computer right now. Coming up next, 285 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports won NBA Insider Extraordinary. 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What's happening? 316 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Man? 317 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: How are you? 318 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: Man? 319 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 7: You must be reading my email because you are not 320 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 7: joking when it comes to the Joe Burrow nervousness. 321 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, at least it's not college football where they're 322 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: not called it. 323 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Mike Brown is calling people for money. 324 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, but I mean, 325 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: at least that's not happening. 326 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, it's But trust me, Bengals fan, I 327 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 7: would say, you can tell the Bengals fan in any 328 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 7: room you walk into because they're just pure Scar tissue. 329 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I sit next to a Jets fan, I know that one. Rick. 330 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Tough times, Yeah, tough times. Life is tough out in 331 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: these football streets, you know, very defensive. 332 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,359 Speaker 7: Indeed, indeed, that's why that's why we're talking basketball. 333 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so let's start with this because I know, 334 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: when I woke up this morning, I thought it was 335 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: an Onion headline that Trey Young's preferred destination was the 336 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Washington Wizards. No, no, No, that happened, gets Delta Knight, 337 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: CJ McCollum, a role player head to Atlanta. I don't 338 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm more surprised about, Rick, the fact that 339 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: there was wasn't more interest in Trey Young, or the 340 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: fact that Trey Young wanted to go to Washington, who 341 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: hasn't been above five hundred and nine years. 342 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know what, it's a little bit like 343 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 7: the Christmas shift. You know when when your when your 344 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 7: favorite aunt gives you that argyle sweater and you're like. 345 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: This is my favorite sweater ever, it's the only sweater 346 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: that you got Christmas. 347 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 7: So like, I mean, that's that's that's a big part 348 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 7: of it here where he's trying to put the best 349 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 7: face on it. He knew that there weren't any other bidders. 350 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's obvious. 351 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 7: I don't I don't know who insulted who more today 352 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 7: the Atlanta Hawks in saying uh c J. McCollum and 353 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 7: Corey Kisbert for for Trey Young, bring. 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 6: It on, we will take that deal. 355 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 7: Or the San Antonio Spurs in the way they approached 356 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 7: the Los Angeles Lakers and said, well, you know what, 357 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 7: we'll just we'll play with our food for a little bit. 358 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 7: But you know, we're we're not we're not anticipating any 359 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 7: sort of a challenge tonight. And indeed they didn't get one. 360 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 6: So it is striking. 361 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 7: It is striking, but it doesn't I guess it doesn't 362 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 7: surprise me because I've been I've been hearing this for 363 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 7: a while and and you know, the strength part is 364 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 7: that they got c J. McCollum and Corey Kisbert for 365 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 7: Trey Young the right now, the Memphis Grizzlies can't get 366 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 7: anything for John Like there is no talk about anybody 367 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 7: making an offer for him. And if you would ask me, 368 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 7: like maybe a year ago, certainly anytime prior to this season, 369 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 7: who I thought was the better point guard or more valuable, 370 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 7: I would have said. 371 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 6: John Morant, no question. 372 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: But it just goes to show. 373 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: Like we're in a place now with the NBA, the 374 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 7: amount of money that is being paid to franchise or 375 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 7: cornerstone guys or who guys who think they are, that 376 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 7: makes people. 377 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 6: A little more aware of what kind. 378 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 7: Of teammate are they. And Treyon wasn't a bad teammate. 379 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 6: But he's not a leader. 380 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 7: What I've been told by people who played with them, 381 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 7: people who coached him, is that he's just very aloof 382 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 7: And if you're going to pay a guy maximum dollar 383 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 7: and he's gonna have the ball in his hands all 384 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 7: the time, then you want somebody to guys want to 385 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 7: play play for and play with. 386 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 6: And Trey is one of those guys. 387 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 7: Who he gets very good offensive stats. But there are 388 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 7: only a handful of guys who are so good offensively 389 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 7: that their teammates and everybody else says, you know what, 390 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 7: this guy's so. 391 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: Good offensively, will put up with what he doesn't. 392 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 7: Give us defensively. Trey's not good enough offensively for that. 393 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 7: And now they've cycled out several iterations of this team 394 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 7: thinking we just need to get the right guys around Trey. 395 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 7: You know, they moved out deanre Hunter and bugging Bugdanovich, 396 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 7: and then they realized, okay, we'll wait a minute, Like 397 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 7: Jalen Johnson and Dyson aren't having Daniels, aren't having a 398 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 7: great time playing with him, Maybe we need to change 399 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 7: something else, Maybe we need to change the flagpole here. 400 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 7: And so's that's ultimately what you're seeing. And what will 401 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 7: be very interesting is to see what the Washington Wizards 402 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 7: are willing to offer him because he went there. 403 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 6: You know, the question is is is an extension? 404 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 7: Is the money that he wanted already negotiated? Was that 405 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: negotiated prior to this deal being made, you know, in 406 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 7: the back room, Because that's one big reason why Trey 407 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 7: Young would say, you know what, don't want to go 408 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 7: to the Washington Wizards. 409 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 6: I know, I know what they're willing to give me. 410 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 7: Down the line. 411 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, looking at it right, a player option of almost 412 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: fifty million for next year, and you start looking at 413 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: that next deal for a guy who's shooting percentage gets 414 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: lower and lower, like the temperatures in Washington. 415 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: End that player option and the nice sweater he got 416 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: for Christmas, the only ones. 417 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 7: Those are Guyle right, coming back in Fashion Fellows. 418 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it was a good movie. 419 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 3: By the way, if you want to go down that 420 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: spy thing with Henry cavill, All right, let's talk about Lebron. 421 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: He's now he's missing games and he's flat out just 422 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: telling you he's old. 423 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: Rick, Yeah, I mean he is old times. 424 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: He tells us a lot of things, and the one 425 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 7: thing that I would agree with him on. 426 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: Is if he's old. 427 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 6: I mean he told us, he told us, you know what, 428 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 6: I can play. 429 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: I can play anyway I have to because I don't 430 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 7: have any holds in my game. I'm like, are we 431 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 7: not counting? Defense is one of the things you have 432 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 7: to have to play this game? 433 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: No, what are we? What are we talking about here? 434 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: So no, Look, the last thing I'm going to do 435 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: is question. 436 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 7: Lebron James at this point in his career, it is 437 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 7: all It's all gravy at forty one. I do wonder 438 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 7: about the timing of various things that he says. And 439 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 7: the big one for me is, you know, being on 440 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 7: the podcast first of all, the combination of him and 441 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 7: his podcast and Rich Paul and the podcast that he's doing. 442 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 7: I'm like, man, what did you know? 443 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: Did you know that Michael Jordan the only reason people liked. 444 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 7: His shoes is because because they like guys who've. 445 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 6: Got girls and drove BMW's. 446 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just. 447 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 7: Paul's explanation for why Michael Jordan's shoes were popular. 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 6: And then Lebron Is saying, hey, you know what, we're. 449 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: In an age now where you know, the having a 450 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 7: player playing ISO and having a guy dominate the ball. 451 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 7: You know, that's really not going to work in today's game. 452 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like, why don't you just say Luca's. 453 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 6: Name out loud? 454 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so when you say when you say you're 455 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: thinking about the timing of things, he's saying for what, 456 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: Because Lebron is I was very calculated. What is what 457 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: does he want to get out here with some of 458 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: the things. 459 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 7: He's saying, Well, I mean, look, I do think that 460 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 7: then this has been for a while now that there's 461 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 7: sort of this passive aggressive Okay. 462 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 6: You know what, I'm no longer. 463 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 7: The feature guy, and Luca's you know, everybody's peaches and cream, 464 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 7: and let's let's just see how he does. Let's let's 465 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 7: let's everybody get. 466 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 6: A taste of that. 467 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 7: And I just I think he's struggling with the idea 468 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 7: that he's not the central character anymore. And he can 469 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 7: do a lot of things to try to paper that 470 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 7: over at times, but the reality is, and I don't in. 471 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: Some ways, I can appreciate it because since. 472 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 7: The time he's been fifteen or sixteen, everybody has done 473 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 7: his bidding. 474 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 6: He has been the guy, and now he's not. 475 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: And I just think he's he's struggling with. 476 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: Coming to terms with that. 477 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 7: But I just I think there are so many different 478 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 7: ways that he could handle this where it would be 479 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 7: far more graceful, I mean, the whole technically, He's right, 480 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 7: like ISO ball, high usage with an individual player is 481 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 7: not where the game is going. The game is going 482 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 7: to far more of a European style, depth, versatility, move 483 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 7: the ball, multiple scorers, you know, the kind of the 484 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 7: way that the oka see has played. I'd say the 485 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 7: last four or five champions have been like that. But 486 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 7: he could have said, hey, you know what, I've benefited 487 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 7: from a time I was able to go to win championships. 488 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 7: Luca was able to take Dallas to a championship playing 489 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 7: that style. I'm not sure that that style is still 490 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 7: going to work now going forward. That would be a 491 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 7: far different thing than the sort of the veiled you know, 492 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 7: this iso ball just doesn't It doesn't work anymore, not 493 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 7: acknowledging Lebron. 494 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: You played iso ball for like fifteen. 495 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 7: Years, so I usedge iso ball. I mean, can we 496 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 7: acknowledge that that was the strength of your game for 497 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 7: the last fifteen years or so. I just think he 498 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 7: could approach things a lot different and we would. I 499 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 7: think everybody would appreciate him. On the way out, I 500 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 7: just have too many people who are hearing, you know, 501 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 7: the podcast, and all of it seems to be, you know, 502 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 7: trying to fluff. 503 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: His pillow on the way out, and and people. 504 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 7: Are like, you know what, can we just we're ready 505 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 7: to turn the page. And I don't like to see 506 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 7: that for a guy who's been around as long as 507 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 7: he has, and has done as much as he has 508 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 7: to go out and to have people saying, yeah, you 509 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 7: know what, we're ready for a new We're ready for 510 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 7: a new face. 511 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: Of the league, you know, and you say that, and 512 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: we talked about this early in the show. Is I 513 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: see Lebron on the sideline. He's not playing. 514 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: It's just sad that this is the guy who's meant 515 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: everything to the league for two decades. This is how 516 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: he's going out if this is clearly the end for him, 517 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: And I start wondering that well, as the Lakers get 518 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: closer to the deadline and they see things that are 519 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: working not working, Lebron doesn't want to go out this way, 520 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: I could potentially see there being some so you got 521 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: a science the hell out of it. But I could see where, hey, 522 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: for half a season, Bron goes back to Cleveland and 523 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: gets the King's farewell and maybe he lifts them up 524 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, but if not, he gets to 525 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: say goodbye and he gets the kind of half season 526 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: farewell tour. Any Way, you could see a scenario like 527 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: that unfolding. 528 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 7: Well, you know, the fact that the Calves have not 529 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 7: been great this year cracks the door on that. 530 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 6: It makes it. 531 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 7: I don't want to say it's possible. I don't see 532 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: a way in which it really happens. But it opens 533 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 7: the door to would the Calves be crazy enough to 534 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 7: do that? Because it would be crazy at this point, 535 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 7: what's the benefit. There's a benefit to Lebron to go 536 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 7: back to Cleveland. I don't know that there's a benefit 537 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 7: for the Calves in terms of they would have to 538 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 7: give up players that have contracts that match Lebron and 539 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 7: and then he's run, he's walking off in the sunset. 540 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 7: It wouldn't because it wouldn't be because he's going to 541 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: make them better. It would be just for the opportunity 542 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 7: for him to say goodbye or close the door in 543 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 7: the place that he started. And I I you know 544 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 7: I if the Calves were playing the way they were 545 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 7: last year, I'd say absolutely not. 546 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 6: There's no there's no chance. 547 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: And by the way, that's another that's another Rich paulism. 548 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 6: If you will, like Chris. 549 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 7: Paul, Lebron would make any team better. 550 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 6: Like No, he wouldn't. 551 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 8: No, he know he would not not at this stage 552 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 8: of his career, he's not going to make a lot 553 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 8: of the championship teams would not be better with the 554 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 8: addition of Lebron James. 555 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 7: And as much as the Calves are struggling right now, 556 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 7: I would put them in on that list of teams 557 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 7: that wouldn't be wouldn't improve if they made a deal 558 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 7: for Lebron James, in part because of what they'd have 559 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 7: to give. 560 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: Up as league. 561 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: For you, talking about sad, sad circumstances, Rick Carlisle, what's 562 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: the over under on when. 563 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: That thousandth win actually shows up? 564 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 8: Oh? 565 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 7: Man, I know it's been uh, it's been a tough year, 566 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 7: but think about think about this. I always think about 567 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 7: Rick Carlisle in Indiana, going back to Indiana Indianapolis. 568 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: And for those and I. 569 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 7: Know I'm taking kind of a left turn here, but 570 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 7: for those who you know are are thinking, man, Dallas 571 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 7: traded Luka Doncic, Like, how could they trade Luka Doncic? 572 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle. 573 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 7: Left the Dallas Mavericks and went to Indianapolis. 574 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 6: To get to get away from Luka Doncich. 575 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: When somebody does that. 576 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 7: It makes me think, huh, like wow, that he must 577 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 7: be He must be tough to deal. 578 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 6: With at times. 579 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: So look, Rick, Rick, this is this has. 580 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 7: Been a very tough year on the flip side of it, 581 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: and nobody saw last year coming for the Indiana. 582 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: Pacers, so I kind of put this. 583 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 7: I put this year in the same category for the 584 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 7: Indiana Pacers as I do the UH the year after 585 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 7: the Warriors went to the finals UH and lost to 586 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 7: Toronto where they sell off a cliff. 587 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 2: And I would and then you know, it took him 588 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: a year. 589 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 7: Two, but they were they were back at it. I 590 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 7: would fully expect that that that's going to be the case. 591 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 7: I'm hoping that it won't be two years before in 592 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 7: before Rick Carlisle gets his. 593 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: Gets his one thousand twins. 594 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 7: So I hope that for my man. 595 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Rick, I think I think Rick Baker just went down 596 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: the whole thing of Rick Carlisle, went down to the crossroads, 597 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: came up just with the title and had to give 598 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: up this year. 599 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 6: Well we you know. 600 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick 601 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: Buker the On the Ball podcast as well. Rick is 602 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: always buddy, Appreciate it man, Happy New Year. We'll talk 603 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: to you next week. 604 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 7: We're not going to talk about the chemistry spilled that 605 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 7: the New York Knicks are right now. 606 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: But Rick, let me just tell you this I don't 607 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: know why we're still playing basketball. I watched the Knicks 608 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: win the championship. There was confetti, hats and T shirts, 609 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: but they continue to play. So okay, But I mean 610 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: I watched us win the championship. It's fine. 611 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 6: Good good point, good point. 612 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 7: I think south Park. I think south Park predicted that. 613 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: Actually, Rick Baker, take it easy, buddy, We'll talk to 614 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: you there. 615 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: Rick. 616 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: I just keep thinking about how Rick Carlisle left Dallas 617 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: to get await from Luca dots. 618 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: No, it's true though, right. 619 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there's lots of noise behind there and Lebron 620 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 3: this becomesy. We know he's difficult to deal with, but 621 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: now he's taking his shots at Luca. Hey, we all 622 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: need to fit around him and we're revolving in his world. 623 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: That was the worst part of Lebron's comments last night. 624 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, chaotic world and the crossroads for Rick Carlin 625 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the Jason 626 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon tim that 627 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: to find out what's trending in the wild water sports 628 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: From a guy who left Detroit to get away from 629 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: Joe Dumars. 630 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: It's Martin Wiss. 631 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 9: Ironically enough, two weeks living in Los Angeles, one of 632 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 9: the first people I had dinner with was Rob Parker 633 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 9: and Joe Tubars. Wow, seriously, I have Brent Wood go 634 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 9: figure so he couldn't get away from him, right exactly, 635 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 9: followed me. 636 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: All right, what I say? And now to a guy 637 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: who had to leave Detroit because he wanted to get 638 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: away from Bill aim Beer, it's. 639 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 9: Martin Weiss, you know, funny it numbs. Second guy, I 640 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 9: had dinner with the Atlanta Hawks. I've traded Trey Young 641 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 9: to the Washington Wizards. Wizards sending c J McCollum and 642 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 9: Corey Kispert back to Atlanta. The Spurs beat the Lakers 643 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 9: one oh seven to ninety one. Victor webben Ya, I'm 644 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 9: a sixteen points, fourteen rebound double double San Antonio seven 645 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 9: and one in games when Winby comes off the bench, 646 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 9: Luca docs with a thirty eight point, ten assist, ten 647 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 9: rebound triple double. Only two other Lakers finished in double figures, 648 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 9: to the point that was making earlier Let's first kind 649 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 9: of play with their food a bit. Benston's improved to 650 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 9: twenty eight and nine fifteen to three at home within 651 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 9: a one oh eight to ninety three win over the Bulls. 652 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 9: Kate Cunningham did not play he's nursing me risch injury. 653 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 9: Isaiah Stewart chipped in a career high thirty one points. 654 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 9: Joel Embiid with twenty eight points seven rebounds to seventy 655 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 9: six ers beat. The Wizards won thirty one to one ten. 656 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 9: Paolo Banko hit a game winning bank shot in the overtime. 657 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 9: It beat the Nets one oh four to one oh three. 658 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 9: Ben Carol finished with thirty points thirteen rebounds four Orlando 659 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 9: as the Magic at the win. The Jazz pushed the 660 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 9: Thunder to overtime, but the defending champions victorious one twenty 661 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 9: nine to one twenty five. Shay Gilds Alexander had twenty 662 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 9: six points, I'm sorry, excuse me, forty six points, my bad, 663 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 9: six rebounds and six assists. Chad Holmgren had twenty three points. 664 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 9: And the Kansas City Chiefs have issued a statement acknowledging 665 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 9: that they are aware that Rashi Rice wide receiver has 666 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 9: been accused of committing domestic violence and we'll investigate further. 667 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: Thatlls back to you, Thanks a bunch, Martin, Jason Smith, 668 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We 669 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: got more basketball on the way. We'll break down the 670 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Tray Young trade. But coming up next, Big Football News 671 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Today says something not great about one high profile, underachieving 672 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: and disappointing team. It's not the Jets. That's next right here, 673 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Jason and Mike. Be sure to catch live editions of 674 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten 675 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Hey, do you know a 676 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: place where I can get all of these great seventy 677 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: song and one great collection? 678 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: Now you do, David Radio Stone Unturned tonight on a Wednesday. 679 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: You'll get hits like Long Train Running by the Brothers 680 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: Al Stewart, Year of the Cat. That's a classic, right there, 681 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: hear of the can Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from 682 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio Studios, both both part of the 683 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: record collection Under the Bart. 684 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm just just waiting for the air supply guys to come. 685 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: On and go, Hey, yeah, you get all these great 686 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 3: power ballads of the seventies and one great place on set, 687 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: the seven CD. 688 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Collection make it love out of nothing at all? Uh So, 689 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: Big NFL News Today, and then look the last couple 690 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: of days has been dominated by obviously the coaches getting 691 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: fired and who's out getting interviewed. 692 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: In different places, but players who are now hitting the 693 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: transfer portal, going back to school or re signing with 694 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: their school, or headed to the NFL, or fighting with 695 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: their school. This is true, It's true. There's lots of 696 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: permutations to this. But you want to know who the 697 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: most disappointing team in college football was this year, and 698 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: it's not even closide of Syracuse. 699 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Not dude. We lost Evangeli. We lost everything. Okay, we 700 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: were great and then we lost defense. We lost a 701 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of games. He's really he's showered a ton. He 702 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: got a ton. Michigan Michigan. 703 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: Uh No, Michigan won all the game thing we're supposed 704 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 3: to win, and they lost the games that were supposed 705 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 3: to lose. 706 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh but they thought they were out of the scandal. 707 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: It was a very predictable season for Michigan. Jason is 708 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: a USC. It is not come on the US. Well, 709 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: no one play away US. He lives in disappointment. 710 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: If you had a pool called disappointment, USC would be 711 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: on the biggest float in the middle of the pool, 712 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: and nobody else could fit in it. 713 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: Disappointed. 714 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: Wait till not playing Notre Dame next year bites them 715 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: in the ass and they don't get him. 716 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: Well, strength the schedule goes to hell. There you go, 717 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: But uh, two big players declared for the NFL Draft 718 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: at anytime players in the top ten declared. If the 719 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: NFL Draft is a big deal, Ohio State Caleb Downs 720 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: Cardinal Tate both headed to the NFL Draft. Ohio State is, 721 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: without a doubt, the most disappointing team in college football 722 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: all season. Yes, any given Saturday, a team can lose. 723 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: But now with Downs going in the draft and Cardinal 724 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Tate going in, you also have a couple of other 725 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: guys you're gonna go. You're gonna have four picks in 726 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: the top fifteen because Arville Reese is gonna go in 727 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and so is Sunny Styles. If Jeremiah 728 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: Smith was eligible, he was going, it would be five 729 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: guys in the top fifteen. This is the talent level 730 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: that Ohio State had. Caleb Downs is the number one 731 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: non quarterback guy I would take. Getting him is like 732 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: getting Rod Woodson, and you would want Rod Woodson, who 733 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: was on the all time NFL team. Getting Caleb Downs 734 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: He is the entire package. There's no flags, got ball skills, 735 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: tackling skills, intelligence, He is as perfect a player as 736 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: you can get. This is how good Caleb downs is, right, 737 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: all the awards, everything else. He's that good. But you're 738 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: talking about a team that has four guys going in 739 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and not only could did you wind 740 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: up not even winning your conference losing to Indiana, You 741 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: couldn't win a game in the playoff after getting a 742 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: bo I mean, come on, man, you wind up losing 743 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: to it to a team that you're scratched hed going. 744 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: How did they come in and just dominate us like that? 745 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: We have NFL talent across the board, and you lost 746 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: to Miami that way. We have the best defense in 747 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: the college football. Well guess what. Miami ran all over 748 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: you like it didn't even matter. There is no more 749 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: disappointing team in college football than Ohio State. Not do 750 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: you win the title every year, but this should have 751 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: been a year where it's back to back for them. 752 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: This should have been an easy back to back year, right. 753 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: Michigan last year most disappointing team in college football because 754 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: they had all that first round talent and they just 755 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: didn't get a quarterback. They didn't go on the portal 756 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: get a quarterback, and they're playing gadget guys and seventh 757 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: year seniors in walkins. That was an epic fail. But obviously, 758 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: you know, Sewan moorehead other things going on in his 759 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: life besides picking a quarterback, So there is that. But 760 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: they didn't pay a quarterback this year. This year for 761 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State like this was Hey, there was no other 762 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: dominant team in college football. And when you send all 763 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: these guys to the NFL in the first round, boy, 764 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: their disappointment looks even worse when you see these guys announcing, 765 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: you know they're all going in the top ten. 766 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 767 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: I think some of it is look at the positions 768 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: that they play. Where did Ohio State lose? They got 769 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: beat up. They got runned over right, just on both 770 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: sides of the ball, offensive and defensive lines. And that 771 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: was one of the questions over the course of the 772 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 3: season was would they be tough enough. Did they beat 773 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: a bunch of paper champions and also ran squads in 774 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: route to the record and the number two overall rankings. 775 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: So yeah, you've got this individual talent that you now 776 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: lose and the next iteration for Ryan Day to replace it. 777 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: But yeah, in terms of overall disappointment, you did what 778 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: you needed to during the regular season, but you couldn't 779 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: close out and now you're bystanders and wondering what could 780 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 3: have been. Meanwhile, you've got a bunch of boosters gun. 781 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: How big are tackles this year? How big are defensive tackles? 782 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: What are we doing to shore things up to end? 783 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: You know, are you going to be tough enough? Because 784 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 3: we'd heard that refrain over the course of the year 785 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 3: and it kind of got brushed aside because they were 786 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: winning games handily. And now you end up in the 787 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: draft and it's going to be interesting to watch that 788 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: that next run of things when we talk about draft 789 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 3: dominance and whether the big ten now that we're watching 790 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: the landscape tip in terms of the on field, does 791 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: that now translate to the draft as well, where it's 792 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: no longer here's eight guys from from Georgia and whatever. 793 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: Well, we'll think about it, because think about it from 794 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: Ohio States perspective of what else do you need? Like 795 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: this is the best roster in college football, it's an 796 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: NFL rosterthing like that, How are you gonna win next year. 797 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: You didn't win with all these guys this year, the 798 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: guy that nearly won the Heisman Trophy as well. How 799 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: are you gonna win next? 800 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 3: You know what he needs to do, though, he can't 801 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 3: die the beard fully because it'll show he's working harder 802 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 3: if there's. 803 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: More gray and the beard. Yeah, okay, I see that. 804 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: Like it also, you know, speaks to wisdom. 805 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: You probably have endorsement deals going and you keep that 806 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: beard nice and looks dark and lush. Yeah, I mean 807 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: I and I okay, working hard endorsement deal, working hard 808 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: endorsement deal? 809 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: Is it? 810 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 3: Peyter shoe polish eight seven seven exit a buta Fresca 811 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 3: exit swallowed up. No more disappointing team this year than 812 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: Ohio State. They had a good I not really didn't 813 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: well during the regular season up until the time they 814 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: needed to win. It was a good run. 815 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, winning time not so much coming up next. 816 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: Two huge stories out of the NBA. Right now, Jason 817 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: and Mike, you are listening to Fox Sports Radio.