1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, let's just do. 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson in iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcasts one 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcasts. We're going to recap 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: episode ten, season three. That'll do pig with Jessica Kuiper Hi. 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Jessica joining us, So we have an air date for 7 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: this episode January fourteenth, two thousand and three. It's Richard's birthday. 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: His mother tricks arived from England. She's moving back to 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the States. Meanwhile, Roy navigates serious drama with Francine at 10 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: school and as well as I mean, this is a 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: big episode for Rory, Gating, Dean and jess boyfriend and 12 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: friend stuff. Jamie Babbitt directed, Sheila Lawrence wrote this episode. 13 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: But before we get into this, Jessica, what do you 14 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: think of this episode? 15 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: It was more about This episode was seriously mom oriented. 16 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Now and I do not come from rich people, so 17 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: this is a completely different I could still navigate it, 18 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: but it's not my people, like well, we didn't have 19 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: people like we had. We had people, but the rich people. 20 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: This whole scenario is so weird. To me like the mother. 21 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we love that she's getting it, but we 22 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: see where she's getting it from. But it's not her mother, 23 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: it's the mother in law. So it's kind of a 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: whole I don't know, like I have felt that. But 25 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: also my mother in law personally is like we have 26 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: the same feelings about what's going on in the world 27 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: at this time. We're we're navigating fillmore girls later like 28 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: earlier on, this is not the world that we're living 29 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: in now, so we can can we. 30 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Suggest anything you want and you are and that's fine. 31 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: That's what chess for, all right, jessin Rory, Jess and 32 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Roy are making out a lot, and Jess justice being 33 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: very aggressive with Rory. 34 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: Let me just say, this would be a great time 35 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: for Shane to. 36 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: Show up and get to be seeing them making out. 37 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I could have had another episode. 38 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's that's right. You had more jest 39 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: tongue than any other actress alive. 40 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: Right, I did. 41 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: So they're going to win a carnival. He doesn't want 42 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: to go big surprise, so Jess drops her off the carnival. 43 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: But then Clara runs into Rory and she's with Dean, 44 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: and then they all go to the carnival together reluctantly 45 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: of course, but there's all that tension and Claire's Claire. 46 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I thought Taylor Scout Thompson was hysterical in this episode, 47 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: just just giving it the jests and the constant questions, 48 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: and she's just pestering him with questions. He's very annoyed. 49 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: Not not a great look for him. 50 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I thought it was not great in this episode. It 51 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: was very much Dean in this episode, right, I mean 52 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: it was, I mean, everybody was. 53 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Not a good showing for Jess. I thought very I mean, 54 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: it's just everything annoyed this guy. 55 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: That the second we like started liking him, they started 56 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: making us hate him. 57 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the writing or well. 58 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Sure, sure it's the writing. Yeah. But so Roy's telling 59 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Jess that she and Dean ran into each other and 60 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: you know they went to have pie at Al's. 61 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're all mad though, because everybody did like 62 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: Dean better, right, and my crazy Dean was obviously a 63 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: better boyfriend. Jess was supposed to be the bad boyfriend, right, 64 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: And I guess yes, it played out right. That is 65 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: how That's how it's turned out to be the dad 66 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: from This is Us what. 67 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: It's We're in domore girl's world, Go back, go back, right. 68 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: But it's okay, we can jump into other worlds. Wo 69 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: though magic of TV. Right. 70 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: They both did so well in TV and stuff afterwards, 71 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: it's like they did that. 72 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: There's there's no there's no denying that. 73 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: And I can't. I can't. I can't do that. I 74 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: can't make a. 75 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: Choice now, Okay, all right, I'm not. 76 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously me, I make bad choices. I would 77 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: choose choose Jeff and Jess. Obviously I would choose Jess 78 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: because I. 79 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: Think a lot of women would make that same choice. 80 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: And I think, right, he's he's kind of an archetypal 81 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: bad boy, bad boy character that you know everybody, all women, 82 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: not all but. 83 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: Not no, no, no, what do I know? 84 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Just the mean ones, the traumatic girls that love the 85 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: cute boys. 86 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: Job. Well, he shouldn't have and she didn't. She went, 87 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: what do you think of what? 88 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so, Jessica, what do you think of Dean? You know, 89 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: they bump into each each other and then they're going 90 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: Then they go to Al's and he wants to be friends. 91 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: What did you think of that. 92 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh, he who wants to be friends? They don't. Neither 93 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 3: of them want to be friends. 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: They don't. 95 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. He's like, no. Dean was like 96 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: I was friends with her. You you were friends with her, 97 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: and look how that worked out. And I'm going to 98 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: be friends with her now. That was very fun. I 99 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: really liked him. 100 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: I actually liked him much more then, and I was like, 101 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: oh my god. 102 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Right, but he's you know, he's yeah, he's maybe he's 103 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: putting himself back in the in contention for Rory's heart 104 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: because now there's some growth, right, he's he Now he's 105 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: going applying to Southern Connecticut State. Yes, if they could 106 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: be friends, she seemed very happy that that's all he 107 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: was asking for. But you know, she sees this guy's 108 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: got some some prospects in the future. He's going to 109 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: Southern Connecticut State. 110 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Oh, all of a sudden, he's going to a four 111 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: year college. 112 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: Pulling, pulling himself up his. 113 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: Bootstraps, like I'm bad for job. 114 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's shift gears here. And Paris seems to 115 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: be in love. I mean, she's in La La lad 116 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Man and she's not paying attention to calculus class and 117 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: it's okay to cancel a student council meeting, and she 118 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: met her boyfriend Jamie's parents over Christmas break and she 119 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: had a great Christmas. 120 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: I'm very happy for right. I don't know how it goes. 121 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen the rest, but sounds like it's 122 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: good for Paris. 123 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm actually everybody. 124 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody does have a soft spart a 125 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: soft spot in their heart for Paris, don't you think so? 126 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah. I think she she needed, she needed 127 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: something to come into her life and you know, make 128 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: her feel loved and appreciated. Right. 129 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: I feel like she specifically needed a boy to pay 130 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: attention to her. 131 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: So that's really cute. 132 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Now Franccene comes into the mix here and decides to 133 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: have a supplementary student council meeting that Paris is not 134 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: involved in, and they vote against the Protestations of Rory 135 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to have the promise, spend the money most of the 136 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: money that's in the budget. 137 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: Not a really bad idea. 138 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's such a bad idea. I mean, 139 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: they want the Wadsworth mansion, they want to have a big, 140 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: splashy prom but they do this without Paris being present. 141 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: And that seems to be a problem. So then Rory 142 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: pulls Francine. You know, obviously it's a power play for Francine. 143 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: Francine's aw a window of opportunity. She took it. And 144 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: now Rory pulls Francene into the bathroom and threatens says 145 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: she's finished being her go between. Have you ever, Jessica, 146 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: been in a situation like do you remember in high school? 147 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember ever being in a situation like this? 148 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Were you involved in a power play like that? 149 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: I was never in a rich high school. 150 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: But I was in a regular high school, like a 151 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: public high school, right, I mean there were some things 152 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: that were power plays, like what this is high school? 153 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: But like no, I. 154 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Never had a rivalry in high school. 155 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: Or but one time I got in trouble for smoking 156 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: cigarettes outside of the theater, and the whole entire well, 157 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: the play wasn't concern because then, like either I was 158 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: going to get to play the part of the you know, 159 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: we were doing a little shop of host and I 160 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: was either going to get to play the part Audrey 161 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: thought I was playing, or somebody else was. 162 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: Going to play. 163 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: And we did get in trouble for smoking cigarettes outside 164 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: of the theater, but. 165 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: I talked my way into getting to do the show. 166 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: For the for the whole school because somebody else was 167 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: going to have to do. And she got caught praying 168 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: that she did get the fourth the weird Yeah, like 169 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: it was a big deal, like she really wanted to 170 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: play Audrey. But anyways, like they mister Brown, the vice principal, 171 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: let me play Audrey for the school, for the entire school. 172 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: And you know that's the only time and that this 173 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: would make. 174 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: Any kind of significance in my life. Yeah, so I 175 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: did get in trouble for smoking cigarettes. 176 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: Well I got to play. 177 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: The part and show you should get in trouble for 178 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes. They're very bad for you. 179 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: Very very bad, and especially in high school. 180 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of bad behavior, let's get into uh, Richard's sixtieth 181 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: birthday party with tricks. Emily calls Lurlei to invite them 182 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: for Richard's birthday party. She agrees, but doesn't know what 183 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: gifts to get him, so Rory ends up volunteering to 184 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: shop for Richard. Richard's excited about his gifts, and then 185 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: the doorbell rings and it's his mother tricks and right. 186 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: Away, well that's the whole episode. 187 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: That's a big, big part of the episode. Sure, Emily 188 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: starts freaking out, Well, what do you think of this dynamic? 189 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's very fun and that's what we should be 190 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: seeing stuff like that, Emily. It's not her mother, so 191 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: you don't get to see where she came from, right, 192 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: So it's kind of very different. It's the it's the 193 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: mother in law and so. But I guess they both 194 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: grew up kind of rich or they wouldn't both feel 195 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: that way, right. 196 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: Am I incorrect in saying that? 197 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't know if it has anything. 198 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: Oh I think it does with money? 199 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: Well everything does, right, everything? 200 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: Wow? 201 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: In this scenario for sure, Like, this is not a 202 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: scenario I would have dealt with in my life, and I. 203 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: Grew up very poor. 204 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: So I'm assuming this is either just for rich people 205 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: or for people who are understanding how that goes. 206 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: So when you when you watch an episode like this, 207 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: given your background and how you grew up, as you state, 208 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you can't you can't relate to this at all. 209 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: I as an actor relate because I can put myself 210 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: in those categories, but like as as a human being, right, 211 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: But I'm not a huge Gilmore Girls fan. A lot, like, 212 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: and I don't know what everybody else deals with, so, like, 213 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I assume that most people who are Gilmore Girls fans 214 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: are middle class. 215 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's everybody. It started out that way. Okay, 216 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: it started out middle upper class, right, but I'm telling 217 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: you it's now it's everybody. 218 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: It's it. 219 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all social strata. Every every level of society 220 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: watches this show. Yeah anyway, all right, So getting back 221 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: to richard sixty birthday tricks. They drop a tricks into 222 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the mix here, and Emily is not happy, and she's 223 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: been quite nasty to Emily. She does not like Emily. 224 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: Why do you think Jessica that tricks dislikes Emily so much? 225 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: That's her baby boy? Right, be perfect? 226 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: And isn't it odd how Richard and I've I've talked 227 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: about this before and our first go round of this show, 228 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: of this podcast, because her second go around. But isn't 229 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: it odd that Richard doesn't step in to defend his 230 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: wife ever against these put downs? 231 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 232 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Right, she must be. She must be very wealthy because 233 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to risk the inheritance, right. 234 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: The kids of this generation. Yeah, that's weird. 235 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if that was like, I mean, 236 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: normally you'd feel like, oh, just yeah, but like kids 237 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: today aren't being quiet. 238 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: So I love that right right? 239 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: No, I am like, this is not the same world 240 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: that we're living in right now. The Gilmore Goals world 241 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: is not the same world that we're living in currently. 242 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: That that that Richard and Emily and Tricksie world is 243 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of that's like tradition going back, you know, sixteen hundreds, 244 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, right, that's how people behave back then. 245 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: But I think that kids today at this current are 246 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: we allowed to talk about what's going on? 247 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: What's going on? Sure, you can talk about anything you want. 248 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: Its current world. 249 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: I feel like those kids are allowed to say stuff 250 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: and then just like put those parents off. 251 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: Who am I I said it? I don't know that 252 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: I should say this right now. 253 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Well, no, it is a phenomenon that is happening in 254 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: our society. It's interesting that you bring it up. 255 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, no, no, no. 256 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: No, it's it's don't apologize. It's a it's a very 257 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: interesting and relevant point. It is going on. You're right, 258 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right. 259 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: People are having problems with their parents and their cousins 260 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: and their nephews and their meithas and their uncles and 261 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: their aunts. 262 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: But are not with it right. 263 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: And this is a show that's really grounded in family 264 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: and multi generations of family, which is why I think 265 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: it resonates so much because people, a lot of people, 266 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent correct, don't have this dynamic anymore 267 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: in their lives. They don't grow up this way. They 268 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: don't have a closeness or whatever you know you have 269 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: been referring to. 270 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's more of an accumulating manipulation, Yeah, manipulation. 271 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Thank you, Pat. 272 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: All Right, So everyone arrives at the end, and you 273 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: did mention before Trixie wanting to come over and inspect 274 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: Laurelized house, and she did in a very comical way, 275 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: which they borrowed from Amy and Dan lifted that or 276 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: Sheila Lawrence lifted that from The Three Stooges. I recall many, 277 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: many episodes of The Three Stooges where Moe, Larry and 278 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Curly were behind a landlord or behind an inspector and 279 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: he was going through and they were following behind exactly 280 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: the way they were doing it in that scene. So 281 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: it's it's either yeah, it's three Stooges. 282 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: I didn't realize you were such a Three Stooges fan. 283 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, I grew up with it. 284 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well who doesn't understand that? I mean, well, kids don't, 285 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: but I do. 286 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: Three stages larious. 287 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: They don't know that now that the kids today, they 288 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: don't know that now. 289 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: But it's okay. 290 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: And then they leave and they there's no dialogue. She 291 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: just comes in and they leave, and then she's kind 292 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: of uh, Laura Rory is staying back to study and 293 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: they're going off to the end for a dinner, and 294 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: they get to the end. 295 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: Is this when big Man and a Little Coat comes up? 296 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: You know what you're right, Man on a little Coat. 297 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: That was a very Chris Farley. 298 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super Chris. 299 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: It was Chris Farley. And it hit me when she 300 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: did it because it's one of my favorite moments and 301 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: she's such a great Melissa Crises comedian. 302 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: I'm so glad she was on the same show as us, like. 303 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: She was doing Chris Farley, wasn't she. 304 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, it was and a Little Coat And it 305 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: was really I was very kind of subdued, like we 306 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: wouldn't notice that if we weren't already aware of. 307 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 3: It, right. 308 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: No, it hit me this morning when I was watching, 309 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: I said, wait a minute, that's Farley. She's paying homage 310 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: to Farley. I know. Oh so good. 311 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: I feel like a big man, a little covering it all. 312 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: Right, So they have so they now we're Do you 313 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: think lorele I gets a kick out of seeing how 314 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Emily acts around trick? 315 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh, Loreley is loving this. 316 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: But I feel like in this episode that Laura I 317 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: does not understand Emily's flight and like it's not even 318 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: Emily's mother, it's her husband, it's her in law, right, 319 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: But like like really. 320 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: They don't give this woman enough. 321 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: There's just like loving it, but they're not given her enough, 322 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: you know. 323 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: Like understanding. 324 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like it's not even her 325 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: mother though, if it was her mother being that way, 326 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: then they would understand it more. But yeah, no, they're 327 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: just like. 328 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 3: Right. 329 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: But isn't interesting how Laura I sits her mother down 330 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: on that lumpy couch and explains to her how she 331 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: got over Emily. She's telling her mom, this is how 332 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: I got over you. It's like I don't take you 333 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: seriously anymore. I just I welcome the criticism. I welcome 334 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: the insults because I just ignore them and I turn 335 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: it into humor. I mean, her whole psychology, her whole 336 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: survival of the trauma is just based on totally dismissing 337 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: her mother. I mean she's telling her this in an 338 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: intimate conversation in her house, on her lumpy couch, saying, Mom, 339 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: to me, you are basically a joke. 340 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: What a lot of human beings right now are going 341 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: through with their parents during this exact right I'm not 342 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: trying to. 343 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: Be that political, but a lot of people are feeling 344 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: that exact, this exact way about their parents and their 345 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: family at this time when things are really really weird. 346 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was a very telling scene. I thought, 347 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Emily's what does Emily? How does Emily respond something like that? Mom, 348 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: I think you're a joke. I think everything you says 349 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: is funny. And that's how I can deal with you 350 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: and survive any encounter I have with you. And I 351 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for you, because this is your karma, babe. 352 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: And now Trixie is you, and now you're laurle I, 353 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: who hasn't learned how to deal with the insults yet 354 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: because she ain't changing you gotta change. And here's here, 355 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: I'm giving you the playbook on how to deal with 356 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: this odious woman, Trixie right, who can't hand you the 357 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: same way that she's given her the playbook. I thought 358 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: it was a great scene. It was. It was the 359 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: most telling scene. 360 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: It was the entire everybody loved it. 361 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: It was the entire episode. But let me tell you 362 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: about missus C. 363 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: Okay, missus who Marion who played missus C on right right. 364 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: I ran into Mariam. 365 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: At the ut at Donnie's concert because he does crooning. 366 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: Now he's a crooner. 367 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: Okay, he's still an actor, but he also does like 368 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: concerts where he cruons. We have the same manager. And 369 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: I went to a thing where he was, like at 370 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: a very fancy Beverly Hills restaurant in the hill. 371 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Like it was like a it was kind of like 372 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: a dinner theater type, you know whatever. He was incruding 373 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: his butt off and everybody. 374 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: Was going and missus C Mary Ross was there, okay 375 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: and uh, and it was so great to meet her. 376 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: I met her in the bathroom and it was like 377 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: the most fabulous thing that ever happened to me. But 378 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: we're we're we're digressing, but she is. 379 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: On this show and she's so I was very excited 380 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: when I was like, oh my god, I had not 381 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: even watched this episode before, right right, like we're gonna 382 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: So I did watch this episode twice, so I do 383 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: know what's going on that second. 384 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: It's good, very little you. 385 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one quick little scene, that's all. That's 386 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: all you were in it. 387 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: So I wasn't in it at all. 388 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: So and I feel like they missed an opportunity because 389 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: when when Rory and jess were making out, like I 390 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: feel like I should be on the outside looking at that, 391 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: like they should have had Shane like like all. 392 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: Mad that they're making out. I don't know. I would 393 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: just like to be paid extra day, that's all. 394 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Right, Right? Did you suggest any of this to the producers? 395 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I would never suggest anything at 396 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: that time for sure. So I'm not I'm Chane, I'm 397 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: not Luke Cheesels. 398 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: All right. So now you know, I think we pretty 399 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: much uh nailed this episode. I'll tell you. 400 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like there's we sliced. 401 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: And diced it, we we mashed it pretty good, all right, Uh, Jessica, 402 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: we are celebrating twenty five years a Gilmore Girls this year. 403 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: You were part of it for four episodes, including. 404 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: Or but you know It's gonna dance Marathon. 405 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: But what about that? You've got a great scene inside 406 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: the jewelry store or the nick next door with Rory 407 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: when you had that real confrontation. That was a great scene. 408 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I was happy to be in a scene 409 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: with her, but I feel like, I don't know, like 410 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: they're there, it could have gone further, Like I really, 411 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: I really I would have fought her for years and 412 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: years if had been given the end. 413 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: The opportunity. But like, I'm really happy that we got 414 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: to do that. 415 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: And uh and and in real life, I'm not that 416 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: person at all. But watched me on other shows, well 417 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: mostly Survivor that the correspond with more girl bands. They 418 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: they know that I'm not mean, and most gomar girl 419 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: fands know well assume that I'm you know, they do like. 420 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: You know what. That's my next question. What was a 421 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: fan reaction at the time? 422 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: This was air God at the time, that is was 423 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: zaring everybody. But that's okay. 424 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: Really I was, oh my god, Well I'm the the 425 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: uh the you know. 426 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: You get you're getting between what the fans want. 427 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: Well, I literally was hired to be the person that 428 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: makes the girls jealous for the boy, and you know 429 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: everybody hates so it's fine. I can see the the 430 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: bad girl. 431 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: It's fine. 432 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: Has a has a fan reaction changed? Now do they 433 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: come up to you now and they're they're they're nicer, 434 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: they're I mean, Gilmore fans are never really uncomfortable. 435 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 3: I don't do. 436 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: I don't have the fans like you, Doude Scott, but 437 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: like I am so unrecognizable compared to you. 438 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: But the people that know me, that are fans of me, 439 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: that that. 440 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: Can recognize me also know I was Sugar from Survivor 441 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: and so that they can recognize me easier, like Shane 442 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: from from Gilmour Girls is not as recognizable. It's kind 443 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: of weird. It's weird to be any of us, but 444 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: it's weird especially to be me. 445 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 446 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: I feel Oh so when you when you watch these 447 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: episodes that you were in, do you ever do that? 448 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: And what's your reaction to seeing yourself? 449 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I played my part really well. 450 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: I was supposed to like annoying and the not anarchist. 451 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: Why am I saying that word. I'm not thinking of 452 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: the right word right now. 453 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: This antagonist antagonist. 454 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm the antagonist. I wasn't the main part. 455 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: I was supposed to make you not like me, and 456 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: so I feel like I did really well in my 457 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: playing my part in that character. 458 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm playing myself. 459 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: So it's like the economy is great and like people 460 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: seeing the difference is really great because there's a lot 461 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: of crossover fans, which is weird. I mean, it's not 462 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: that weird. Everybody rewatched everything during COVID. 463 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Right, all right, Jessica, Thanks always fun and remember everybody 464 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: best flans on the planet. Keep the cards and letters coming, 465 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: and remember where you lead, we will follow. Stay safe everyone, everybody, 466 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am all 467 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.