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Speaker 1: there it is there it is, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another phenomen know many episode of My Mama Told Me,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we die deep deep into the pockets

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Speaker 1: of black expiracy theories and we finally work to prove

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Speaker 1: the theories that you the listeners have at home. It's

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Speaker 1: a motherfucking many episode. You know how this ship works.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna spend a bunch of time breaking

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Speaker 1: I don't have the energy to explain how this ship

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Speaker 1: guys are my dear listeners, my dear friends. Should I

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Speaker 1: say here, goddamn family to me, That's what I always say.

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Speaker 1: My listeners are my family, and like my family, I

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Speaker 1: if at all possible, zero interaction. However, we are interacting

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Speaker 1: today because today I received a wonderful Dare I say

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Speaker 1: for you all now. Growing up, I always heard that

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Speaker 1: Now it's hard, right, it's hard to look up too

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Speaker 1: ugly people make a pretty baby because it's not exactly

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