WEBVTT - 7 Blunders of the Ancient World

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what mango was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I was reading up on ancient Greek

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<v Speaker 2>theater this week, which you know I like to do

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<v Speaker 2>every October very personal reasons. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>into it, and I came across this story about an

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<v Speaker 2>Athenian actor name he Geligos, and he once mispronounced a

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<v Speaker 2>word so badly that it tanked his entire career. That

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<v Speaker 2>sounds so harsh, like just one word tanked his career?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the word? Well, so here's the story. This

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<v Speaker 2>happened back in the spring of four hundred and eight BC,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was during the premiere performance of Orestes. This

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<v Speaker 2>was this tragedy written by Euripides. He was playing the

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<v Speaker 2>lead role, and in a scene where his character recovers

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<v Speaker 2>from a bout of madness, he's supposed to say, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>after the storm, I see once more a calm, But

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<v Speaker 2>because he was rushing to get the line out, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this word in it, galen, and he says it with

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong inflection, which changed the meaning from calm to weasel,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's a different word. Those are yeah, I always

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<v Speaker 2>think that's an improvement. Well, it was actually worse than

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds, because in ancient Greece, seeing a weasel was

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<v Speaker 2>considered a really bad omen So the mispronunciation not only

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<v Speaker 2>made the line sound sillier, it also conveyed the exact

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<v Speaker 2>opposite mood. Instead of being this optimistic line about feeling better,

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<v Speaker 2>it became this ominous line about him having bad luck.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was actually that big of a mistake just

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<v Speaker 1>mispronouncing this one word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it ruined his whole career. So comic

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<v Speaker 2>playwrights of the era teased him mercilessly and even referenced

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<v Speaker 2>him by name in their own play. This killed his

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<v Speaker 2>reputation as an actor, to the point that he never

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<v Speaker 2>acted again after that one flub. It also gave him

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<v Speaker 2>a different level of fame than his contemporaries. Like basically,

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<v Speaker 2>even though ancient Greek tragedies are the bedrock of Western theater,

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<v Speaker 2>we usually don't have record of the actors who appeared

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<v Speaker 2>in the original performances. You don't hear the names of

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<v Speaker 2>any of them except for Geligos, who we still know

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<v Speaker 2>for this mistake, and this was definitely not the legacy

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<v Speaker 2>he would have hoped for, but it is still his legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>No such thing as bad publicity. No, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're often hearing about the seven wonders of the

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<v Speaker 2>ancient world, so today I thought it might be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to explore the seven biggest blunders of the ancient world instead.

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<v Speaker 2>This slip of the tongue is just the first on

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<v Speaker 2>the list, but that still leaves six more gafts to go,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's dive in. Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Part Time Genie. I'm Will Pearson, and as always I'm

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<v Speaker 2>joined by my good friend mangsh Hot ticketter and on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of that soundproof glass wearing a It

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<v Speaker 2>took me a minute to read this, but it says

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<v Speaker 2>po body's nerfic T shirt. He's so clear, so clever,

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<v Speaker 2>clever a picture of a great sphinx on it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>our friend and producer Dylan fag and he's just always

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<v Speaker 2>one upping the last thing he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am actually glad that Dylan referenced the sphinx

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<v Speaker 1>because I considered adding the sphinx to our list, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>because of that broken nose it has, but once I

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<v Speaker 1>started looking into it, I realized the nose wasn't broken

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<v Speaker 1>off by mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those stories that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard a few times that I never can like,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't it cut off on purpose? Or shot off by

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<v Speaker 2>French troops or something like that. No one actually knows

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<v Speaker 2>who did it for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been all these rumors over the years that

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<v Speaker 1>it was Napoleon soldiers they had blasted the nose off

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<v Speaker 1>with the cannonball in the seventeen nineties. That was the rumor,

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<v Speaker 1>But most historians actually think that the schnaws was chiseled

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<v Speaker 1>off in the late fourteenth century and chiseled off like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mass of nos that's huge. The most likely

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<v Speaker 1>culprit was this man named Mohammad Sayim al Dhar and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the Egyptian peasants of the era had started making

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<v Speaker 1>offerings to the sphinx in the idea that it would

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<v Speaker 1>improve their harvests or whatever. But when Aldaar found out,

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<v Speaker 1>he was so outraged by this idolatry that he destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the sphinx.

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<v Speaker 2>Nose just despite them. Wow, So did the villagers kind

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<v Speaker 2>of snap out of it after that or what? No,

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<v Speaker 2>they executed him for vandalism. Oh god. Okay, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>far we've talked about some people that they're just lives,

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<v Speaker 2>have gone poorly after things. But all right, so now

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<v Speaker 2>that we've got that nose story out of the way,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your first fact? Mango?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I actually kind of want to stick with

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt for a minute, because not only is it home

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<v Speaker 1>to the only ancient wonder that still exists, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Pyramid of Giza, but it's also home to a true

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<v Speaker 1>anciente blunder called the Bent Pyramid. Have you ever seen this?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually have not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going to put a photo here, but the

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty foot tall Bent Pyramid of Dashu

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<v Speaker 1>Where was built for pharaoh Sneffru in about twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred BCE, and its name stems from an engineering issue

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<v Speaker 1>that required the builders to abruptly change the angle of

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<v Speaker 1>the pyramid slope about halfway through the construction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm just looking at this picture, and the slope

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<v Speaker 2>really does change drastically right there in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the pyramid, Like the lower portion looks so much deeper

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<v Speaker 2>than the top. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole thing was originally designed to be built

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<v Speaker 1>at a fifty four degree angle, which would have given

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<v Speaker 1>it smooth, straight angles that you see on traditional pyramids.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the builders added more and more layers of blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>these cracks started appearing in the structure, and they realized

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<v Speaker 1>it would probably collapse if they kept going, and so

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<v Speaker 1>after a bit of number crunching, they decided to reduce

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<v Speaker 1>the angle for the upper portion to a much more

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<v Speaker 1>stable forty three degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it worked. It's still standing today, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could argue that the slightly curved appearance is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the landmark's charm. I guess. But I'm curious why the

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptians made such a mistake in the first place. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>building pyramids feels like kind of their thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Egyptians are well known for building pyramids. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to break that fact, right, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But Snepfer's bent pyramid was.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of in early work.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the second pyramid burial structure that the

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptians had ever constructed. The first one had been built

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<v Speaker 1>about two hundred years earlier, southwest of Cairo. And the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing about that one is it was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>stone step pyramid, So the kinds you see in like

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<v Speaker 1>Central America, rather than a smooth faced one like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind that they would later become famous for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I guess this bent pyramid was in this

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<v Speaker 2>transitional phase where they were still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what it really meant or what it needed to build

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<v Speaker 2>a pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were still fine tuning the process, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there was a fair amount of trial and error along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. The Egyptians learned from this mistake, and once

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<v Speaker 1>the Bent Pyramid was finished, they built a second, more

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<v Speaker 1>successful one for the same pharaoh, This three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty foot tall, smooth side red pyramid, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>to the north and the future pyramids built in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>It was built at that same forty three degree angle

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<v Speaker 1>that saved the Bent pyramid. I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is about forty three degrees, but it just works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and definitely does. That's every when we want to

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<v Speaker 2>build a pyramid. All right, Well, I've got an architectural

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<v Speaker 2>mishap to add to our list as well, except mine

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<v Speaker 2>is more of an ecological oversight than some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>design flaw. All so, I'm gonna give you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of background here. This was in the Great Maya

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<v Speaker 2>city called to Call and that formed around six hundred BCE.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to Call started as this tiny village in what's

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<v Speaker 2>now Guatemala, but over the course of about one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>years it developed into this full blown jungle metropolis so

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<v Speaker 2>to call hit its stride between three hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred CE, and at the peak of its power in

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<v Speaker 2>the mid eighth century, it boasted upwards of sixty thousand inhabitants,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was a lot of people living in one place,

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<v Speaker 2>making it one of the largest and most powerful city

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<v Speaker 2>states in all of the Americas.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm guessing the architecture there was pretty impressive as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the architecture is actually pretty stunning. So they're these

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred foot tall temples more than two dozen pyramids.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe most impressively, it also had this highly advanced

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<v Speaker 2>water management system that was there to help residents survive

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<v Speaker 2>the region's dry season. So this included a series of

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<v Speaker 2>dams reservoirs that collected and stored as much rain water

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<v Speaker 2>as possible, as well as these paved sloping plazas to

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<v Speaker 2>help direct the water where it needed to go. So

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<v Speaker 2>the city even had this sand filtration system to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the water clean, so really advanced systems.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds gorgeous actually, and I'm guessing all that water

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<v Speaker 1>work was necessary because of where the city was located.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, Like the city was built in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of this dense rainforest and people didn't have easy

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<v Speaker 2>access to lakes or rivers, so that's how the city

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<v Speaker 2>compensated for this. But what's ironic is that the very

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<v Speaker 2>system that helped to Call survive droughts and dry spells

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<v Speaker 2>also led to its downfall. And much of the Maya

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<v Speaker 2>Kingdom collapsed at the turn of the ninth century, and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, to Call seems to have been outright abandoned,

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<v Speaker 2>like with all of its structures left completely intact, as

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<v Speaker 2>if everyone just picked up and left at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the longest time, there's been this mystery about

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<v Speaker 2>what caused the city's demise. It obviously wasn't a violent struggle,

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<v Speaker 2>as there were no signs of damage to the city,

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<v Speaker 2>so that led historians to conclude that the city's collapse

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<v Speaker 2>was probably related to droughts and overpopulation.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're saying the fancy water system that the city has,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason that they left.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there was this very recent study. It was

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twenty that was published in Scientific Reports Journal,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was this investigation of to Call's reservoirs, and

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<v Speaker 2>they revealed that they were dangerously polluted with high levels

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<v Speaker 2>of mercury. And not only that, scientists also found traces

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<v Speaker 2>of very toxic algae blooms. Now, the presence of mercury

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<v Speaker 2>is most likely attributed to a red mineral called cinebar

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<v Speaker 2>or mercuric sulfide, which the ancient mile widely used as

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<v Speaker 2>a pigment or a die for various things. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>the city's temples and the main palace were said to

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<v Speaker 2>be caked in cinnabar, which means that during the rainy season,

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<v Speaker 2>all that mercury rich powder, it just washed right off

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<v Speaker 2>the buildings. Yeah, so you know, it's not good news.

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<v Speaker 2>And so thanks to those sloping plazas, this just flowed

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<v Speaker 2>straight down into the city's reservoirs and obtained the water

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<v Speaker 2>supply of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously with people drinking and cooking with all

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<v Speaker 1>this poisoned water, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Must have started getting sick, right, very sick. Once the

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<v Speaker 2>blue green algae began to bloom in those phosphate filled reservoirs.

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<v Speaker 2>The locals could probably tell from the site and smell

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<v Speaker 2>alone that the water was no longer safe to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess what's weird about this is that the

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<v Speaker 1>entire population just gets up and leaves, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this civilization has lasted what like a thousand years, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like they'd almost wanted to fight to save

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<v Speaker 1>their city a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've got to keep in mind that Takol was

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<v Speaker 2>already struggling due to intensifying droughts. So even if they're

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<v Speaker 2>was a way to fix the pollution, the residents really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the time to implement it. Like, they obviously

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<v Speaker 2>needed to deal with this immediately, and so they had

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<v Speaker 2>to find a new water supply. And there's also the

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<v Speaker 2>religious component to consider. So water was sacred to the

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<v Speaker 2>Maya because it was key to their whole existence, So

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<v Speaker 2>when their supply suddenly went bad in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible drought, they likely took it as a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that the gods were displeased with them. So from a

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<v Speaker 2>practical standpoint and a symbolic one, abandoning their once great

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<v Speaker 2>city probably felt like the most sensible option.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it's a luxury to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>learn from your mistakes. Like when you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptians working on that bent pyramid, they make this awkward pyramid,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they have time to reflect and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>like how to make the next one perfect. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>for the Maya, they don't really have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be scientific.

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<v Speaker 2>In order to survive. They just have to scramble. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it's funny that you put it that way, because

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<v Speaker 2>the next blunder on my list is from someone who

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<v Speaker 2>also had to walk away in order to survive a mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>but in his case there was a literal dead elephant

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<v Speaker 2>blocking the exit. How about that for a tease? Mango.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious. So let's take a quick commercial break

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can tell me all about it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Part Time Genius and we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>seven blunders of the Ancient World.

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<v Speaker 2>So will where are you taking us next? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So for this one, we're headed back to ancient Greece

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<v Speaker 2>to about the third century BCE, which was a tumultuous

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<v Speaker 2>time in the Mediterranean. The recent death of Alexander the

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<v Speaker 2>Great had created this serious power vacuum, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>his former generals and allies were competing to fill it.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the would be successors King Pirus was

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<v Speaker 2>this ruler from northern Greece, and he managed to extend

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<v Speaker 2>his domain by winning their victories against the armies of Macedonia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this was in the year two eighty, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when he set his sights on conquering Rome. So Piras

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<v Speaker 2>sailed to Italy with about thirty thousand soldiers and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>war elephants, marking the first time that elephants had ever

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<v Speaker 2>been seen on the peninsula.

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<v Speaker 1>So this must predate Hannibal and the Alps, then, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>By about sixty years, so not not a ton of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But as you might imagine, the Romans on the battlefield

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty freaked out by the site of these enormous

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<v Speaker 2>armored ann I can't even imagine if I had never

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<v Speaker 2>seen an elephant. But even with the advantage of intimidation,

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<v Speaker 2>Peiris only barely pulled out a win. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 2>number of casualties he sustained was so high that the

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<v Speaker 2>Greek historian Plutarch quoted him as having said, quote, if

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<v Speaker 2>we are victorious. In one more battle with the Romans,

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<v Speaker 2>we shall be utterly ruined. So you can imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>these were hard won battles. So King Pierris became well

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<v Speaker 2>known for his narrow winds, and people started using the

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<v Speaker 2>expression pyic victory, which of course means a victory that

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<v Speaker 2>comes at such great costs that it's almost like a defeat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember taking a class on the moguls in college,

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<v Speaker 1>and elephants are obviously so massive and so intimidating, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also scare incredibly quickly, and so they're not great

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<v Speaker 1>war animals.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine that, especially if you let a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of mice loose. I mean, that's what I hear. Have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea whether that's true, it's not true. So I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't even gotten to his real mistake. If you remember

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<v Speaker 2>that amazing tease before the commercial breath, the dead elephant

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<v Speaker 2>blocking the doorway. Do you remember this? Okay, So, after

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<v Speaker 2>a series of skin of his teeth victories in Italy,

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<v Speaker 2>Pearis actually started losing battles. So in two seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>he retreats back to Greece and begins making a play

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<v Speaker 2>for the throne of mast on first, he targeted Sparta,

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<v Speaker 2>but when the city state proves resistant to his attacks,

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<v Speaker 2>he turns his focus north to Argos. I've always thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was interesting in military history, where they're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go beat these people and then I can't, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, no, I'll go over here. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to think about it. But now Pierce had no trouble

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<v Speaker 2>breaking through the city's defenses, thanks once again to his

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<v Speaker 2>pack of giant elephants. But once he's inside, he finds

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<v Speaker 2>it really difficult to maneuver through the narrow streets, and

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<v Speaker 2>his forces are quickly overwhelmed. And to make matters worse,

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<v Speaker 2>Peers's forces keep pouring into the city even after he

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<v Speaker 2>had ordered a retreat, and in the scuffle that followed,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the elephants, the largest one, falls down right

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the main gate, which sends the other

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<v Speaker 2>elephants into a panic, and they start rampaging through the city,

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<v Speaker 2>basically crushing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you imagine, like there's no reverse on

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<v Speaker 1>an elephant, Like you're in these narrow streets and like

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<v Speaker 1>the turning radius isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 2>Not good? Not good? So does piiskeatry not exactly, but

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<v Speaker 2>his death was the direct result of not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to get around the fallen elephant. So in the battle,

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<v Speaker 2>Puris takes one look at the chaos unfolding and decides

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<v Speaker 2>to take his chances back in the city. Now, as

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<v Speaker 2>the story goes, he's fighting his way through the streets

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<v Speaker 2>and he gets stabbed through the breastplate by this enemy spear.

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<v Speaker 2>Pieris turned to face his attacker and landed a killing blow.

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<v Speaker 2>But what he didn't realize was that the soldier's mother

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<v Speaker 2>had been watching the whole scene from a nearby rooftop. So,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Plutarch, when the old woman saw that her

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<v Speaker 2>son was in danger, she lifted up a rooftile with

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<v Speaker 2>both hands and hurled it at Peuris's head, and the

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<v Speaker 2>resulting blow didn't kill Pearis, but it left him dazed

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<v Speaker 2>enough that other soldiers were able to swoop in and

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<v Speaker 2>finish him off.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like bringing elephants to battle wasn't a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but the king's real mistake was killing someone right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of their mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not the kind of thing you walk away

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<v Speaker 1>from it. But let's leave the battlefield behind for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's time to pay a visit to the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>city of Bethlehem. And that's where Saint Jerome, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the early scholars of the Catholic Church, accidentally sparked one

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<v Speaker 1>of the weirdest trends in medieval and Renaissance are the

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<v Speaker 1>horns on Moses.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've actually always wondered about this, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>that famous statue of Moses by Michelangelo, and for no

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<v Speaker 2>apparent reason, he's got these weird little baby goat horns

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<v Speaker 2>sprouting from his forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's super weird, especially considering Moses's this prophet and

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<v Speaker 1>horns are obviously associated with the devil. But Michelangelo was

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<v Speaker 1>actually far from the only person to make this connection.

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<v Speaker 1>This image of a horn Moses turns up in all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of Western medieval iconography, and weirdly, it can all

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<v Speaker 1>be traced back to this single mistranslation by Saint Jerome.

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<v Speaker 1>So it all goes back to the late fourth century.

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<v Speaker 1>See when Saint Jerome began working on the first Latin

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<v Speaker 1>translation of the Christian Bible, and for whatever reason, he

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<v Speaker 1>decides to ignore the existing Greek translation of the Old

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<v Speaker 1>New Testaments and instead he translates his own version directly

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<v Speaker 1>from Hebrew into Latin, and unfortunately that led him into

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<v Speaker 1>trouble due to several ambiguities in the ancient Hebrew language.

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<v Speaker 1>One example of this is the Hebrew word for a

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<v Speaker 1>ray of light is almost exactly the same as the

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<v Speaker 1>word for horn, and because the Hebrew language doesn't apparently

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<v Speaker 1>write out its vowels, I guess Jerome wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on the context clues. And so in the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Exodus, when Moses returns from Mount Sinai with

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<v Speaker 1>the Ten Commandments, his face is lit up by this

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<v Speaker 1>divine light, but in Saint Jerome's translation, he gets horns instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right, So Moses spends six weeks on a

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<v Speaker 2>mountaintop communing with God and comes back down he's suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>grown a pair of horns, and nobody manages to comment

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<v Speaker 2>on this again. Is that what we're talking about here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's super weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And the really well part is that the people who

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<v Speaker 1>translated the Old Testament into ancient Greek ray solved for

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<v Speaker 1>this welcome back to part time genius meaning of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hebrew text and described Moses's face as glorified. But because

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<v Speaker 1>Jeromed ignored that Greek translation Moses winds up supporting horns

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<v Speaker 1>in art for the next millennium, even after the error

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<v Speaker 1>is widely acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh. I Like the art world was like, no, We're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're sticking with the horns, you know. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So if my math is right, that brings us up

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<v Speaker 2>to five ancient blunders with two left to go. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to those, let's take one more quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Mango surp my final entry on our ancient

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<v Speaker 2>blunders list. I want to take us back to the

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<v Speaker 2>reign of Shen Sherwang, the first emperor of China. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the third century BCE, and Sheen puts

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<v Speaker 2>an end to a long period of provincial inflict in

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<v Speaker 2>China by unifying the country's various provinces under one central government.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also responsible for several major advances in Chinese culture,

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<v Speaker 2>including the introduction of standardized weights and measures, the creation

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<v Speaker 2>of uniform system of writing, the construction of the earliest

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<v Speaker 2>form of the Great Wall. So a lot of accomplishments here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems so pretty productive, pretty productive. Yeah, But as

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<v Speaker 2>he grew older and more powerful, the emperor also became

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with death and began searching for a way to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve immortality. It feels like a lot of these leaders

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<v Speaker 2>fall into this trap. And we know this because about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, archaeologists discovered this cache of ancient writings

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of an abandoned well in the Hunan Province,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them contains this executive order issued by

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<v Speaker 2>the emperor. The decree ordered a nationwide search for immortality

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<v Speaker 2>potions or elixirs of life, and required every village and

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<v Speaker 2>region to submit a report of their findings. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, China is such a vast territory and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like you can just send out junk mail

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<v Speaker 1>or notification. The fact that like he forced this decree

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<v Speaker 1>on everyone is incredible. It's a testament to Chen's efficacy

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<v Speaker 1>as a leader. But it also just shows how seriously

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<v Speaker 1>he took this quest for his immortality. So did the

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<v Speaker 1>villages end up getting back to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine they all did, but only a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>responses were found in that well, and most of the

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<v Speaker 2>replies were awkward notes from regional governments saying they hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>found the elixir of lives, but like, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep looking for it because they am sure. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get in trouble. But the only semi hopeful

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<v Speaker 2>response came from officials and Langya when they suggested this

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<v Speaker 2>herb from a local mountain might have these life extending properties.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds promising, did it, apparently not considering Emperor Chen

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<v Speaker 2>died at the age of forty nine. But that actually

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<v Speaker 2>brings us around to his big mistake, because it seems

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<v Speaker 2>that in his desperate search for immortality, the emperor may

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<v Speaker 2>have actually shortened his own life. Historians believe that his

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<v Speaker 2>early death was brought on by mercury poisoning, this extremely

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<v Speaker 2>toxic side effect of many of the lixers that he

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<v Speaker 2>drank in pursuit of his eternal life. Now that said,

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel too badly for the emperor, because he did

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<v Speaker 2>have a backup plan. So before his early ish death,

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<v Speaker 2>he ordered the construction of this enormous burial chamber, which

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<v Speaker 2>he famously stocked with a life size army of thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of terra Cotta warriors. To see where we're going here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Jen believed in the afterlife and hope that the clay

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers would protect him in the world that was to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You basically thought he would live forever regardless, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still tried to find a magic pushit, yes, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I was to.

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<v Speaker 2>Live on earth. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oddly enough, my last mistake also has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>one man's quest for immortality. And maybe it's because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually working on a new show on how to Live Forever,

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<v Speaker 1>because I am obsessed with other people's obsession with the topic.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this fact, we need to head over to

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Ephesus, which used to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of ancient Greece but is now in modern day Turkey,

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<v Speaker 1>and the city is largely remembered as a birthplace of

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<v Speaker 1>the philosopher Heraclitis, but it was also home to many

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<v Speaker 1>lesser known female artists. I didn't realize this until we

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<v Speaker 1>did this episode, but Ephesus was filled with sculptors and

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<v Speaker 1>painters and teachers, including the artist Timer Reid, who painted

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<v Speaker 1>a famous portrait of Artemis in the fifth century BCE.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Artemis for anyone who's familiar with Greek myths or

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<v Speaker 1>Percy Jackson was one of the most revered goddesses in

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<v Speaker 1>the ancient Greek pantheon, but the Ephesians laid a special

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<v Speaker 1>claim to her because they actually believed she had been

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<v Speaker 1>born near the city. And while most cities praised Artemis

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<v Speaker 1>as the goddess of hunting and wild animals, the people

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<v Speaker 1>here actually worshiped her as this goddess of fertility and

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<v Speaker 1>the protector of women and young girls, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Ephesian women would often call on Artemis for help during childbirth.

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<v Speaker 1>So Artemis was, I don't know, kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>city mascot patron deity might be a better way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to go with mass.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why the city has had a temple dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to her since as far back as the Bronze Age,

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<v Speaker 1>and the original structure was wiped out by a flood

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventh century, But about two hundred years later,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lydian king Croesus paid to rebuild the temple of Artemis,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made it bigger and sturdier than ever, And

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<v Speaker 1>so this new and improved temple was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest ever built in ancient Greece. It stood roughly sixty

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<v Speaker 1>feet tall. Inside there was this treasure tove of relief carvings, sculptures, paintings,

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<v Speaker 1>including this massive statue of Artemis herself. But for nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years after its completion, the Temple of Artemis

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<v Speaker 1>served as a house of worship, and it was also

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<v Speaker 1>this tourist destination, this art gallery, all in one. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this guy named Haristratus comes along, right and late

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<v Speaker 1>one evening in three hundred and fifty six PCE, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes his way up to the temple and so fire

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<v Speaker 1>to the wooden roof. The flame spread so quickly throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this wooden interior. By morning the temple is totally in ruins.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing left but a few blackened marble columns.

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<v Speaker 2>So not an Artemis fan, I'm guessing that's the things

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<v Speaker 2>we really don't know much about the arsonist.

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<v Speaker 1>He's believed to have been lower class and possibly enslaved,

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<v Speaker 1>and many historians suspect that he wasn't Ephesian by birth,

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously with that kind of background, you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of potential motives. It might have been politically motivated.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have been protesting this injustice of his low station.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he also might have been a misogynist lashing out

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<v Speaker 1>it this women's protector.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe and I'm not trying to be funny here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was just unwell and not thinking clearly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are all sorts of plausible options, except that

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<v Speaker 1>none of them are the explanation that he offered, because

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<v Speaker 1>after being arrested, he admitted that he had torched the

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<v Speaker 1>temple just to make a name for himself. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to leave his mark on history, and he decided the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to do it was to destroy the symbol

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<v Speaker 1>of the city, which had been, you know, a wonder

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<v Speaker 1>of the ancient world that could have lasted for a very,

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<v Speaker 1>very long time had it not been for him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because it makes you wonder why the Ephesians

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<v Speaker 2>would play into his hand by recording his confession. Why

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<v Speaker 2>not just say the fire was an accident and sweep

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<v Speaker 2>it under the rug.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently they tried so. Not only did Efesian authorities sentence

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<v Speaker 1>Haristratus to death for the arson, they also institute this

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<v Speaker 1>special kind of punishment known as damnatio memory or condemnation

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<v Speaker 1>of memory, and under this order, the public was forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>to speak or write the culprit's name. This was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>done to discourage others from committing similar copycat crimes, but

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<v Speaker 1>also to ensure that he didn't get his wish. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that people would forget the name Herostratus, so instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being remembered, he would be condemned to obscurity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the people that streak across like at the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl and stuff like that on the field. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it don't show them. We do not want them to

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<v Speaker 2>be known. But that's clearly not what happened, since we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely Apparently some historians refused to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with this punishment, so they write down his story, his

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<v Speaker 1>name before it could be forgotten by history, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, Arsenist's name was not only remembered, it became

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<v Speaker 1>the basis for a new expression, which is herostratic fame.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically means fame at any cost. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>what are we calling the mistake in this one? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the Arsenists got exactly what.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the Ephesian authorities who made the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>because they tried to suppress the truth about this fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went about it in the worst possible way,

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<v Speaker 1>right They told everyone not to talk about it, which

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<v Speaker 1>just makes everyone want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, I'm glad we put this

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<v Speaker 2>list together. It's nice to know that the people of

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<v Speaker 2>the past were just as accident prone as the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of us, and as susceptible to mercury poison. It is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to close out the show. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep the fact off mercury poisoning free?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try, no promises. Well, let's see what happens. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here is a messy medieval blunder from the city

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<v Speaker 1>for Germany. This is back in eleven eighty four. Dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of noblemen gathered at Saint Peter's Church at the request

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<v Speaker 1>of the King Henrik the sixth, and he had called

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting to settle a land dispute between two prominent citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately they actually never got a chance to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>it because shortly after the meeting started, the floor of

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<v Speaker 1>the church collapses, right, and apparently the upper room where

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<v Speaker 1>the group met wasn't intended to hold such a large gathering.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's in chainmail and all this heavy armor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>floor just wasn't strong enough. So the weight of the

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<v Speaker 1>falling people and the debris was so heavy that they

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<v Speaker 1>broke through the ground floor too, and wound up plunging right.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the church's.

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<v Speaker 1>Communal sessca post. I know, it's like the money pit

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<v Speaker 1>or something. It's believed that almost everyone for the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>fell into the latrine pits. Supposedly, the king and the

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<v Speaker 1>archbishop avoided this embarrassment by clinging on to some iron

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<v Speaker 1>rails on the church's windows. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of like polishing the story, but the majority

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<v Speaker 1>weren't so lucky, and altogether more than sixty people fell

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<v Speaker 1>into this latrine and never made it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Goh, that might be the saddest story about people falling

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<v Speaker 2>into a giant toilet that I've ever heard, So can't

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<v Speaker 2>use that in our future list of sad stories of

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<v Speaker 2>people falling into giant toilets. But yeah, that's really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a tragic, low brow blunder of my own

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Mango, and it's about the first known mooning

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<v Speaker 2>on record, and it took place in Jerusalem. This was

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<v Speaker 2>back in the first century CE, and according to a

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary historian of the era, Flavius Josephus, the first mooning

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<v Speaker 2>took place just outside of the city when a Roman

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<v Speaker 2>soldier exposed his backside to a group of Jewish pilgrims

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<v Speaker 2>on their way to celebrate Passover. As Josephus puts it, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the soldier pulled back his garment and, cowering down after

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<v Speaker 2>an indecent manner, turned his breach to the Jews and

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<v Speaker 2>spake such words as you might expect upon such a posture.

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<v Speaker 2>To put it another way, he farted than for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I'm going to skip to another one. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we've talked about the Wicked Bible before aka the

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<v Speaker 1>Sinner's Bible, and it's just a normal English printing of

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian Bible. This is from sixteen thirty one, except,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it leaves out the word not from the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh Commandment, so instead of saying thou shalt not commit adultery,

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<v Speaker 1>it orders the readers to go out and have an affair.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this a typo situation or did the printers leave

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<v Speaker 2>out the non on purpose, like as a prank or

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<v Speaker 2>what was the origin of this? So there's this long.

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<v Speaker 1>Running rumor that the misprint was actually an act of

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<v Speaker 1>sabotage by a rival publisher, but today most experts think

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<v Speaker 1>it was just an honest mistake, not that it made

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<v Speaker 1>much difference to the two printers responsible for this. Once

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<v Speaker 1>King Charles found out about the wicked Bible, he ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the printers to stand trial for sloppiness, and ultimately he

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<v Speaker 1>stripped them of their printing license. Now, one thousand copies

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bible were printed before the error was discovered,

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<v Speaker 1>but ns most of them were destroyed by all these

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<v Speaker 1>scandalized readers, priests, or whatever who wanted to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Only about twenty copies are known.

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<v Speaker 2>To exist today. Okay, all right, well here's a quick

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<v Speaker 2>one I found. So back in thirteen twenty five, a strange,

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<v Speaker 2>short lived conflict broke out between the Italian city states

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<v Speaker 2>of Bologna and Modena, and it was called the War

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bucket. Now, trouble had been brewing between the

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<v Speaker 2>two cities for centuries, but the thing that supposedly tipped

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<v Speaker 2>them over into this all out war was the theft

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<v Speaker 2>of an old wooden bucket. I mean, buckets are very handy,

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<v Speaker 2>so you could see the other night frustrate someone. But

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<v Speaker 2>apparently a group of Modanese soldiers sneaked into Bologna one

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<v Speaker 2>night they noticed this random bucket at a public well,

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<v Speaker 2>and they decided to take it with them, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the spoils of victory, I guess. And of course someone

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<v Speaker 2>noticed the missing bucket the next morning and was able

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<v Speaker 2>to quickly suss out who had stolen it. So Bolanese

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<v Speaker 2>officials demanded this bucket be returned, and even when the

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<v Speaker 2>Modenese were fused to oblige, Bologna declared war on its

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<v Speaker 2>longtime rival.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that has got to be some bucket

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<v Speaker 1>rightly special.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely hope so, because although the war only lasted

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<v Speaker 2>a few months, it's estimated that roughly two thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>died between the two sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, a few months. So how did Bologna

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<v Speaker 1>get this bucket back?

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<v Speaker 2>They did not. They wound up surrendering, and just to

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<v Speaker 2>add insult to injury, the Modinese were said to have

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<v Speaker 2>stolen a second bucket on their way back home.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about some pretty silly fluffs today, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this fact might be the most embarrassing yet.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a biography of Greek philosophers, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Stoic philosopher named Crispus, and this is in the second

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<v Speaker 1>century BCE. He apparently laughed himself to death while watching

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<v Speaker 1>a donkey eat figs. Okay, so apparently this happened during

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<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and forty third Olympia. Chrysippus was just

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out watching the games when he noticed that his

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<v Speaker 1>donkey had started helping himself to some figs, and he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's the funniest thing he's ever seen, so he

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<v Speaker 1>cries out, now, give the ass some pure wine to

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<v Speaker 1>wash down his figs. And then, according to Diogenes, he

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<v Speaker 1>laughed so violently that he died.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so this guy got presumably very drunk at the

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics and then die laughing at his own dad joke.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, are we sure this guy was a stoic?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that does not sound very stoic to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his real mistake was not giving a close

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<v Speaker 1>enough watch on his fig supply, because the easiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent death by laughing at watching a fig eating

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<v Speaker 1>donkey is to never give your donkey figs in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place.

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<v Speaker 2>A truer words were never said, Mango, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>deserve the trophy this week for imparting that bit of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>You built it up like it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great fact and it delivered. So congratulations you win

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<v Speaker 2>the trophy this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's going to do it for a part Time

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<v Speaker 1>Genius from myself, Will, Mary, Gabe, and Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next week with and other brand new episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>so please tune back in. Part Time Genius is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. This show is hosted by

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<v Speaker 1>Will Pearson and me Mongashtikler and research by our good

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<v Speaker 1>pal Mary Philip Sandy. Today's episode was engineered and produced

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<v Speaker 1>by the wonderful Dylan Fagan with support.

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<v Speaker 2>From Tyler Klang.

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