1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. You guys, welcome to the Edge. This Edge 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: is a little different because we're missing our buddy Chip. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Don't worry that he'll be back next Friday for regular 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: programming and all things Edge. All things Chip, I should say, 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: but I wanted to make sure that I put up 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: the listener question section of my conversation with Jackson High Tower. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: You guys had some really great questions, so I picked 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: the top ones and we did discuss those, but I 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: wanted it to be just a whole nother conversation because 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: there was such good information in there. If you have 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: not listened to our first conversation. Jackson is the founder 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: of a company called Natural Jackson, where their mission is physical, mental, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: and sexual self mastery. So we covered all sorts of 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: topics and if you are looking for more fulfillment in 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: your sex life, I highly recommend going to listen to 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: that first episode on the Velvet Side of Things that 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: ran earlier this week. But these are all of your 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: questions that I thought I had to get to for 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you guys, and Jackson gives really great answers, so I 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy. Okay, if I don't get to these 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: listener questions, I'll get in trouble. So let's get to these. 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: How do you tell a man you don't want to 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: film a porno without hurting his feelings. So basically, this 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: listener said that they were having almost like aggressive sex. 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: She was like he was throwing her around in all 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: these different positions in the room and she was like whoa. 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: And it was also the first time they had had sex, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: so she wants to do it again to see if 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: it gets better. But she's also like a little nervous. Yeah, 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: so do you have suggestions on how she can approach 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: this conversation? 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: So first off, I would imagine this guy probably watches 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: a lot of porn. Yeah, you know, I would just say, 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: look like you got to talk to the guy and 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: just tell him through the experience, like like let's go 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: a little bit slower, right, like calm down, you know, relax, 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: let me Maybe she can even initiate and engage in 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: some activity where maybe she's massaging him and she sort 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: of takes a little bit of that role. She sets 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: the tone on the pace. Yeah, to be not this 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: like animalistic, primal like throwing around type of thing. I 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: think the best thing is like always hey, I would 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: love it if you just did a little bit slower, 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: or like, go a little bit slower. I like it 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: when you do that, or that feels so good when 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: you go a little bit slower, so that the guy's like, 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: oh good is equated to slower. Right, you're sort of 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: pre programming because he may not realize that, like she 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: may not enjoy what is happening. And you know, hurting 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: a guy's feelings is sort of secondary to like having 51 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: the experience that you want. So I think I get 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: a lot of questions from female friends like, well, I 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: didn't say it because I didn't want her feelings, and 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: I said, but then he never learns. Then he never 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: actually knows what it is that you want. And so 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: I always encourage in a non sexual atmosphere, having a 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: conversation with him about like what do is he like? 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: What are his like kinks? What is his fetishes? And 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: then she can reply with what she likes. If he's listening, 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: then she'll he'll have an opportunity to be like cool, 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that into use. Yeah he's not listening, 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: and he just does it again, probably not the guy 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: for you. 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: Do you want to know something funny, I reposted a 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: video that you were talking about the jack rabbit or 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the like, trying to make it illegal for men to 67 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: be able to I call it jack hammering. Yeah, Yet 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: both every girl that I've talked to about this is like, 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: oh God, thank god somebody's saying this. Every boy or 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: man was like, well, duh, of course. And I'm like, Okay, 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: if y'all are acting like this is such common knowledge, 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: why is it happening so much? So that's the case 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and point of like how it's really difficult as a 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: woman to talk to men about these certain things because, 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: like you said, I think it's the ego thing. They 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say, oh I didn't know that. Yeah, 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: you just go based on what feels good to y'all. 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, or what they've been watching and what they've 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: been attuned to. Right. It's like you're gonna do whatever 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: you learn, right, and that's all through this like fast 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: hard you know, sexual experience. But yeah, I mean as 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: a woman being able to speak up and say like, hey, 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: this doesn't actually feel good for me, right, and like 84 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: if that guy can't handle that, then he needs to 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: work on some stuff, right, Because the reality is you know, look, 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: as a woman, you are being entered. It is really 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: it's the most basic thing in the world that happens. 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: It's a very very sacred experience. And what porn does 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: is it makes it not super sacred and what you know, 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: this sort of like hard fast whatever, it makes it 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: not super sacred. There's a time and a place for 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: hard sex. The question about that, But the vast majority 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: of my experience with with with men who are talking 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: about stuff and with women who are asking me questions 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: is that it happens way too quickly in the experience, 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: and it's very one dimensional. It's like the only note, 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: that's the only thing that they know how to do. 98 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: And so it's like, let's expand as a as a 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: as a you know, as men, in what we are 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: capable of, and let's learn different ways in different paths too, 101 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: experiencing more pleasure for ourselves. 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Sex on the first date, yes or no? 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: If you see this person as a partner potential, I'd 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: say no. Okay, If you don't and you just want 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: to have a really good time. 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, okay. Do men's This one is really interesting 107 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: to me. Do men's penises shrink as they get older 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: somewhat really. 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So like just like your body sort of shrinks 110 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: as you get older, like you lose muscle mass, you 111 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: have less circulatory response, et cetera. Like if you're not 112 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: actively working on that area, it can get smaller a 113 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: little bit because there's less circulation usually, so the veins 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: get smaller, the outeries get smaller, everything sort of get smaller. Okay, 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: potentially it's not not like a guarante. Yeah, but yes, 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of the herbs and the 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: oils and things like that that I have as part 118 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: of my product line, they're really meant to like continuously 119 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: have blood flow and nitric oxide production, relaxing the skin tissue, 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: but also like working the area, like you got to. 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: You gotta do the exercise right, Like if you go 122 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: to the gym for you know, twenty years and your 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: biceps and it's not and you're working out regularly and 124 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: then you stop working out, well, it's like you're gonna 125 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: lose all them ulcle masks. It's gonna become fat, you're 126 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: gonna get skin that's gonna stretch, right, And that's just 127 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: what happens if you don't cultivate an area regularly, so 128 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: it does happen, but you can avoid it. 129 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: My husband wants sex or fucking twenty four to seven. 130 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: I want love and intimacy. He doesn't get it. 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: Help. Well, it's good. I don't know how this person is, 132 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: but it's good that their husband has a high libido. 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I think that there needs to be a conversation or 134 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: come to Jesus with like, here's what I'm capable of, 135 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: and here's what I'm not capable of. Right, Like, there's 136 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: so many variables. Do they have children, do they live together, 137 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: how long they've been together, et cetera. If the guy 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: has high drive in how libido as a woman, that's 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: good because it means that he is, like, you know, 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: he's healthy and he's strong, et cetera. There needs to 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: be a bit more communication about the needs and goals 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: and desires, right, And what does that mean for her 143 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: intimacy and connection, et cetera. And if he's just like 144 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: fucking twenty four to seven and not like making love 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: or having a more intimate experience, right, it seems like 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: the way that she's experiencing sex right now is not intimate. 147 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: It seems like it's probably that hard and fast thing 148 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: when she says that word, right, Yeah, booking is not 149 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: making love. So you know, you got to just have 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: that conversation with them and say like, hey, I would 151 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: love to just like, let's try this. Let's go really 152 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: slow for one experience and see what that feels like. 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, let's try this move and where I just 154 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: want to like I'll be on I'm going to be 155 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: on top, and I'm going to direct the process and 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: you can't do anything right and like play, you have 157 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: to play games. 158 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of a fun way to make it a 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: game exactly. 160 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: The sex should be a fun game and experience right 161 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: where it's like, let's try this. You just get down 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: with your you know direction, and I'm going to do 163 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: my thing and you're horny all the time. Awesome, I 164 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: want to pleasure myself and you can't move ye, like 165 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, trying things that are sexual and intimate where 166 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: there's penetration but or she's able to maybe control some 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: of the experience more and then give positive feed back 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: about that experience so that he understands, oh, she likes this, 169 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: this is good, and I like it too, and it 170 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: feels nice. But again, the most important part about sexual 171 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: like success in the sexual realm is the ability for 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: us to communicate. Yeah, and like this is obviously all 173 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: of life, business, personal, sexual and whatnot. If you don't 174 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: know how to communicate, you're not going to be really 175 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: good at anything, you know what I mean. You have 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: to have the ability to communicate. And what I found 177 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: is that this particular area, sexual communication is the one 178 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: that we the least practice in that we have one, 179 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: we have the least amount of teachings in, but we're 180 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: starting from you know, the words, so we can only 181 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: go up from here, you know what I mean. I 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: think that's that's the most important thing. And there's so 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: much content, more and more content that's being created around 184 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: that by from women and for men, so we can 185 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: learn how to be sexually literate as they call it. 186 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: You know, you've mentioned Tantra and I've done some stuff 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: with Tantra too, And when she's saying I want love 188 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: and to see that was the first thing that popped 189 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: in my brain, is the difference between how they're wanting 190 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: the sex to be. So do you have suggestions on 191 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe approaching your partner about something like that, like an 192 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: activity like that together or like seeing a healer or session, 193 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Like what does that look like? 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on the availability of each partner, right, 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: and so I mean even just doing something as simple 196 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: as eye gazing, right, Yeah, how many partners have taken 197 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: three minutes to look in their partner's left eye without 198 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: any other distraction. 199 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: No, ever, you're looking in mine right now, and that's 200 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: so hard to. 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: So but like that's the power of it, right, It's 202 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: a very powerful experience and it doesn't take any it's 203 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: it's it's quick, it's easy, and it's super intimate. 204 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: That's what's so intimate. People don't like try it. To 205 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: try for one minute. It's so much harder than you 206 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: would think. 207 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you you, you become much more vulnerable. But 208 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: you see the other persons you and you're like, oh 209 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: wow when you drop into this other state of being 210 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: breathing together, learning how to align your chakras. If people 211 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: don't believe in chakras, that's fine. But like connecting your 212 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: bodies and breathing in unison, right, that's the super simple 213 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: thing to do so that you can so that you 214 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: can sort of function like this yin yang dynamic. Right, 215 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: Like the problem with the mask and the feminine spooning 216 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: is a really great one. So skin to skin spooning 217 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: in bed, if you know, and taking turns where it's 218 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: like I'm going to spoon you for ten minutes and 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: we don't have to talk, We're just going to breathe. 220 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: And sometimes the man is the outside spoon and the 221 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: woman is the inside spoon. And sometimes the man maybe 222 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: he has a tough day at work and he's the 223 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: inside spoon and she's the outside spoon. It doesn't mean 224 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: you're any lesson. 225 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I love that. I never thought about that. 226 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: I love being inside spoon, you know, because we're out 227 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: of the world, we're doing these things, we're buildings, you know. 228 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's like, well, sometimes we need to feel 229 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: that love and connection from our partner. So they're very 230 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: very simple things that you can do in tantra that 231 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: that cultivate that connectivity, that cultivate more of that intimacy. Right, 232 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: It's really intimate to look in someone's eyes. Yeah, it's 233 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: intimate to like breathe with someone and just not you 234 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: don't have to say anything, you have to talk, just 235 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: be with each other in that moment and do nothing else, 236 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: you know. So that's that's what a lot of what 237 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: the Times contraesn't really about penetration tells is about everything 238 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: outside of that. Yeah, right, and it's and most of 239 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: the touch it isn't really sexual, but most people know 240 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: about it. 241 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: If a sexual that yeah, okay. This listener named her 242 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: question priming the pump. What can she do or what 243 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: can I do in public with my clothes on enticing 244 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: him to experience excitement in the moment but not burst 245 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: on the first thrust later? I think that was something 246 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: you said, yeah, to take his time, but how can 247 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: she like prime and kind of I don't know, maybe 248 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: tease a little bit. Do you have suggestions for women? 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Like what are what are big turn ons for men 250 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: in that area? 251 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: Well, so I want to answer the other question, which 252 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: is like how does he not bust in the first thrust? 253 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: So like a woman just needs to like walk out 254 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: of the house, and a guy can be turned on 255 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: if he's into it, right, we have to remember, like 256 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: that's how easy it is for men to be turned on. Right, So, 257 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: if you're priming the pump and you're doing all these 258 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: things that are sexy and whatnot, and he hasn't actually 259 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: done any of the work on himself, no matter what 260 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: it is that you do. Yeah, especially if you are 261 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: priming the pump, it's even it's going to even faster. 262 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: So I actually don't think it's anything that she can 263 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: do in that regard like dress sexy, you know, be flirtatious, 264 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, allow him to be a man, and allow 265 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: him to feel wanted and needed. Like if a man 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: doesn't feel wanted or desired, he's not going to be 267 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: interested in you. But I would say it's more about 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: sharing information with him in a subtle way or however 269 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: she's she can do it where it's like, let's go 270 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: let's try to go slow here, let's actually experience this 271 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: together because I like it slow and I like when 272 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: you do this. So if a guy gets positive feedback 273 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: through a behavioral action, right, that's going slow. It's like, oh, 274 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: I love when you do this. I love when you 275 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: do that. He's going to get the clue. Right, It's like, 276 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: let's go slower learning teaching him how to breathe, or 277 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: him taking courses or whatever. It is like I've got 278 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: a ton of stuf where it's like learning how to breathe, 279 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: learning how to do kegls, learning how to do stuff 280 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: that's going to elongate the experience. But yeah, it's less 281 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: about her, I think at this point, you know, she 282 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: probably just needs to like look sexy and be feminine 283 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: and you know, do her thing. It's more about teaching 284 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: him and guiding him in a direction of like, I 285 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: want to elongate this experience with you, and she needs 286 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: to not say like hard or faster, et cetera. Like 287 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: she needs to be like slower. Let's go as slow 288 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: as we can. Let's just try something new, right where 289 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: she suggests an idea or she gives moral sex and 290 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: she does it super slow, you know, where it's like 291 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: let's build the anticipate anticipation or the game is let's 292 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: actually like have an experience where we have to do 293 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: everything five times slower than we normally would, right, Or 294 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: we're going to do this for X number of minutes, 295 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: right and the timer goes off or something like that. 296 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Right. 297 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: You have to to communicate and be creative with your 298 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: experiences together. If you want them to go slower, you 299 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: have to teach and behave in a way that is slower. Right. 300 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think sometimes it's hard 301 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: for women too, and a lot of the younger men 302 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: that I've even heard talking about sex are like, well, 303 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: she said she likes it hard, and you know all 304 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: the women, And I'm like, who are these women and 305 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: why are you ruining it for the rest of us? 306 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: A lot of women who. 307 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Do, I know, But I also think it's because they 308 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: don't know really like the other way or that's what 309 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I that's the story I make up, And so I'm 310 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: just yeah, I think it's kind of a both. It's 311 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: like both people or both sides of it are really 312 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: not helping the issue. And again it goes back to 313 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: like we're so uncomfortable talking about sex, so we just 314 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: do the thing we see and porn, And like I 315 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: think for women, what men understand is they just want 316 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: you to be into them. So like a lot of 317 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: times they're just acting that out in the sex life exactly. 318 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, well he likes this, so I'm. 319 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: Going to be better like this the key thing. Yeah. 320 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: And also a lot of women watch porn, and so 321 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: if you are a woman watching porn and it's hard, fast, 322 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: et cetera, you're going to get habitually trained as well, 323 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: and your brain chemistry is going to change as well. 324 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: And so you're going to want that in your sexual experiences, 325 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: and so you know, it's a two way street. It's 326 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: not like men are the only ones that are getting 327 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: screwed up from watching porn. And then a lot of 328 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: younger women also are watching it because they have so 329 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: much more access to it than you know, people who 330 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: are older in their forties and fifties. Yeah, so you know, 331 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: if she does want that, that's just probably because she's 332 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: also a one note person. That's all she sort of knows. 333 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: And as a man, you actually have to you have 334 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: to change the script and sort of like break or 335 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: poort with that situation, which is like, actually, no, I'm 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: going to go super slow, and what I want you 337 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: to do is just feel right, feel as much as 338 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: you can. But if she's used to that thing, right, 339 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: and think about like women whose vibrators right, men can 340 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: never like no, and men can never compete with that. 341 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: It is a machine that is creating a physical response 342 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: that a man can never do. Right. It's also not 343 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: a human thing, so there's no skin, etcetera. So you know, 344 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: when we get into these habits of hard fast women 345 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: are habituated as well, and so they need to also 346 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: unlearn that. Yeah, you know it's yeah, it's not just 347 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: the man's role. Especially if she's like harder and faster, 348 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: Well then that's what you're gonna get. Yeah, you're only 349 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: going to know this one lane. 350 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that you keep saying the one note, 351 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: like there's just so much more and because that actually 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: makes you want to try it all. Like if you 353 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: think about it that way, it could be so much 354 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: more interesting. Okay, can a seventy seven year old active 355 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: man who doesn't drink overcome d without viagra? 356 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? How well, you know, look like there are so 357 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: I mean that you can take herbs and supplements and 358 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: things like that. You can use, you know, physical devices 359 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: that can be helpful. You have to cultivate the energy 360 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: in that region more regularly with yourself. I don't know 361 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: if he's watching porn or not. If he is stopping immediately, yeah, 362 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: that may take a long time. If he's not, you know, 363 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: continue on the path. But like you got to do 364 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: the exercises, You got to work on your PC muscle, 365 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: You gotta do kegls. You can take herbs and things 366 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: like that which will be supportive and helpful to increasing circulation. 367 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: I always say like as natural as possible for as 368 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: long as possible. Okay, Biagra is a great invention and 369 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: it's super supportive to a lot of guys. It is 370 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: heavily oversubscribed, especially to men under forty in this country, 371 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: and it's a whole epidemic that you know, that's a 372 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 2: whole conversation. But you know that he can. It may 373 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: take him a little bit longer, right because he's old, 374 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: but working in your cardiovascular system is super important, so 375 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: you totally can do it. You just have to be 376 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: committed and diligent. If he's overweight, oh, he said it's healthy, 377 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: so going on, but that's another bigger ways. If you're fat, really, 378 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: that's going to be challenging. It makes a lot harder. 379 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: Well what if? Because the next question is how should 380 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: a woman approach their partner who has not yet accepted 381 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: that they potentially have d MM. 382 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: I think that only happens a lot. Yeah, So the 383 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: set and setting and the intention is super important, right, 384 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: and it's probably one of the most challenging conversations a 385 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: woman has to have with a guy. If a woman 386 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: doesn't want to just you know, sit back and not 387 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: have sexual experiences because of that, right, because that guy 388 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: who has D is not going to be engaging in 389 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 2: sexual experience, right he doesn't know he has I mean, 390 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: first of all, he knows he has D. 391 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: He knows, yeah, Right. 392 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: So some of it's just like you know, you got 393 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: to break ropport sometimes, but doing it in a super 394 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: compassionate way, which is like, let's let's do this together, 395 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: or let's work on this and let's stry to find solutions. 396 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: If that guy doesn't have the wherewithal to do something 397 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: on his own and search for options or explore, then 398 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: he needs support and he needs help. You know. All 399 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: I could say is like it's contextual about what this 400 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: person is into what they like, but finding an environment 401 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: where they're at there, you know, peak high, and then 402 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 2: you know bringing in this topic of conversation is going 403 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: to be helpful. Where you do that sandwich and maybe 404 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: it's two slices of sandwich, like two slices of bread, 405 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: and then the middle of the sandwich, you know, like 406 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: you have to maybe have to stack on more and more, right, 407 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: And you know, because because if you don't say anything, 408 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: you may never actually get what you're desiring. And if 409 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: you do say something, you may run the risk of 410 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: hurting his feelings momentarily, but he already knows what's going on. 411 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: So just approaching it being like, hey, like, let's let's 412 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: let's get this going, you know, for you, and just 413 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: being like on his team and on his side, not 414 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: like I'm feeling less then or I'm feeling not supported 415 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: in our sexual life, where it's just like, let's support you. 416 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: I want this for you, I want to do this 417 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: for you, and you know I love you and it, 418 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, all this sort of. 419 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Stuff that you have to make sure that affirming. 420 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, affirming and positive response. 421 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay, how do I initiate more sex if my sex 422 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: drive is higher than my husband's. 423 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Oh well, usually that happens as men get older, right, 424 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: And so it's actually interesting you find a lot of 425 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: women that are in their late thirties, early forties, mid 426 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: forties who their sex drive is usually at their highest 427 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: then exactly because they have more to stay strone production 428 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: at that time in their life. And then they if 429 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: they're not into partnership or if they're divorced or something 430 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: like that, they usually go for guys that are younger 431 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: because sexually they're getting their sexual primes mats. Societally, it 432 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: makes no sense, and children wise, it makes no sense. 433 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: But a guy in his mid to late twenties is 434 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: much more sexually primed and appropriate for women mid forties 435 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: or early early late thirties. You can you can you 436 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: can sort of like try to create more experiences where 437 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: you're sexual together. You can do things that are going 438 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: to be more of a turn on for him. You 439 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: can memla physical touch, so it's like I've never you know, 440 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: if a man doesn't want to get massaged or touched 441 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: or whatever it may be, try to have, you know, 442 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: do a shower with him, give him a massage, turn 443 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: him over, whatever you got to do right where it's like, 444 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: let's get you into more of that sexual realm is 445 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: going to be helpful. Men respond usually through physical touch 446 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: and through words that's like their love languages. So creating 447 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: an environment where you're maybe initiating a bit more than 448 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: you would want to, but like you kind of have 449 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: to do it just because that's what happens. And also 450 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: making sure he's not watching porn, because again, any energy 451 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: that is going outside of the relationship, especially to the computer, 452 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: is going to take away from any of his drive 453 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: that he has for you. Like it's just it's just 454 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: a fact, you know. And he's going to get less 455 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: and less and less and less interested in you if 456 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: that porn continues to stay, if he's not watching porn 457 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: and he's not into you, I don't know. I mean, 458 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, you got to try to spice things up 459 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: a little bit in some capacity. It's tough one, you 460 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yeah, And maybe you need to 461 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: do more things for him just to get him into 462 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: that sexual zone. Yeah, you know, maybe you need to 463 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know going on, I don't know, 464 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, but it's like getting him in 465 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: the moment where he's like he's being more served to 466 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: get him into the sexual zone and then you can 467 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: get into it. 468 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: Also, what's coming to me is how you said to 469 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: ask for preferences or things that turn you on, like 470 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: kinks or anything like that. Like maybe start with that 471 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: kind of conversation. 472 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And also, like you know, who knows the 473 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: dynamic of the relationship, how long they've been together, old 474 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: they are, there's so many variables. True, there's so many 475 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: variables as part of that. And you know, I just 476 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: think that it's all about communication. And as a woman, 477 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: you don't need to be afraid you're going to hurt 478 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: his feelings. But being able to communicate your desires in 479 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: an environment where you feel safe, where he feels non threatened, 480 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: is like that's the key creating however, you e is 481 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: it you need to create that with your partners. 482 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to say something else to women too, 483 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: because we've said you don't need to worry about like 484 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: hurting their feelings. But it's so ingrained in us to 485 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: not do that and to not rock the boat. But 486 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: what I've taught myself and a couple of my friends 487 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: and I talk about this like it's actually more cruel 488 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: to not be honest. Correct, you're not doing anybody any favors. 489 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: It's enabling the bad behavior or the same behavior or 490 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: anything like that, and it is not intimate, it's not truth. Yeah, 491 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: so it's actually like more mean exactly, that's what you're 492 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: worried about. It's actually more mean not to be honest. 493 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: So it's a short term you know, you're you're looking 494 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: for more of like a I tell, you know, my 495 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: girlfriend's like, oh, I don't want to say something because 496 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: I feel bad. Yeah, you know, I don't want to 497 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: hurt his feelings. Men are linear like creatures. Right, we 498 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: don't like being in purgatory. We don't necessarily love feedback, 499 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: but if we get a response, at least we know 500 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: where we stand. Right, So this happens a lot with 501 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: a ghosting or like I didn't want to communicate with 502 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: him because I felt bad, or I didn't want to 503 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: tell him that he was bad and bad because I 504 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: felt bad, or that I wasn't enjoying the experience and 505 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: I didn't want to continue the experience because he was bad. Right, 506 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: if you're in a partnership with someone, you're with him 507 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: more regularly, it's a different scenario. But men can rationalize 508 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: things pretty easily. You know. Yeah, it's about an area 509 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: that's very sensitive for us, but we can rationalize mostly 510 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: anything as long as there is communication that's compassionate. So 511 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: if you're being engaged with and you're not feeling like 512 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: you're attacked, I would say I would encourage all women, like, 513 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: speak up, speak your mind. And if he can't handle it, 514 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: that's something he needs to work on, right, that's something 515 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: and he needs to really focus on, right, because at 516 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, if you're not 517 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: comfortable getting feedback even in this area, right, Like, you 518 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: got to just continue to work on yourself and aulement 519 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: so that you can because we're not all perfect. We're 520 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: like really good at everything, right, you know, and every 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: man in his life has situations sexually which have been suboptimal. 522 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: It just happens. Yeah, you know, it's like it's complex, 523 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: you know. 524 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, last one advice for women who struggle to 525 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: you because they have never had an orgasm with their partner. 526 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: Oh well, you said earlier, some guys don't care, so 527 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: I guess make sure he cares. 528 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well, should make sure he cares. But also yeah, 529 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: I guess the questions I would ask are have you 530 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: had an orgasm with yourself? Have you had an orgism 531 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: with other partners? Have you never had an orgasm ever? Right? 532 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: Those are sort of like qualifying questions. And you know, 533 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: if you know what you like, right, and you know 534 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: what gets you, what turns you on? Are you communicating 535 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: now with your partner in some way? Right? Is there 536 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: the communication clear? Right? Like I like this or I 537 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: like that, or like this position or this position you 538 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: know usually turns me on. Some women don't actually explore themselves. 539 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: They don't know right, and then it's kind of like 540 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: the blind leading the blind. The guys try to figure 541 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: it out. The woman doesn't actually explore it herself, and 542 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: it's like, well, if it happens, it's like it's a miracle, 543 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: or it's like, you know, once out of every hundred times. 544 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: So knowing what you like, communicating that to the man, 545 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: the man being able to like take that feedback and 546 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: be like cool, like let's try this together, you know. 547 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: And it could be a function of, you know, maybe 548 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: there's a lack of skill on the man's side where 549 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't actually know what to do, you know, and 550 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: he needs to sort of like learn different things. But 551 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: it's but it's it's complicated because there's there's so many 552 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: things I would probably want to ask this person. But 553 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: I think it really stems from like, if you know 554 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 2: what you like and you can get yourself off, then 555 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: you need to share with him what that's like and 556 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: sort of do it together and guide him. You know. 557 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: It's like you're going to take dance lessons as a guy, 558 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: and you need to learn how to lead ultimately, but 559 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: before you learn how to lead, you need to learn 560 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: the moves. And so usually there's like a woman who's 561 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: teaching the guy the moves, right, how do you do 562 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: these dances together? And you know, sort of very similar 563 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: sexually in this scenario where it's like, if she knows 564 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: what she wants, she shouldn't just leave it up to 565 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: him to figure it out. He needs to be really 566 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: communicative of like, hey, I love this, let's try this, 567 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: or like, do it here. And maybe she's more in 568 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: her masculine in those first little bits until he gets 569 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: a hang of it, but hopefully he'll learn and then 570 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: he can just do it on his own and then 571 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: she can fully rocks in her feminine and then he 572 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: can do his thing. Okay if that makes sense. 573 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if she doesn't know what she likes, 574 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's where to start exactly going to figure that 575 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: out on your own of course? 576 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 577 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Jackson has a ton more info on his 578 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: social media pages, lots of videos on all the things 579 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and actually more We kept it fairly 580 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: PG for some of this content. So can you tell 581 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: the listeners where they can find you if they want 582 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: to keep up with you? 583 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: Yes? So social media is all get natural Jackson, Instagram, TikTok, 584 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: and Facebook, and my website is natural Jackson dot com 585 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: for supplements and programs and things like that. 586 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: What kind of programs are you offering on the website. 587 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: So I do. I have individual courses about edging and 588 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: keggles and breathing and things like that, mostly for men, 589 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: but a couple for women. And then we're actually putting 590 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: together a community where there's going to be conversations, chats, 591 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: a private community where people can get access to the courses, 592 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: the programs, the PDFs, the brochures, all the stuff that 593 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: I create, all the guides and things like that, and 594 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: that's going to be released in May, which is exciting 595 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: cool and so you'll be able to get access to 596 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: everything there. But yeah, those are the two. 597 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: Places to go awesome. Well, as always, I will put 598 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: that in the description of this podcast for you, guys, Jackson, 599 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. This is so fun. We 600 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: won't have to have you back and answer some more 601 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: of thosuming questions. I love that, all right, thank you 602 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: guys for listening.