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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I was still live on a first Friday, a miracle

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Speaker 2: edition to Cleveland Brown's Daily. Merely Bo the great Z.

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Speaker 2: It's been a minute, brother, How are you look at

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Speaker 2: you? You look great? The joy in my heart is immense

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Speaker 2: because you are back.

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Speaker 3: You look splendid. You well son kissed. You look like

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Speaker 3: you got a little vitamin D. Still not all the

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Speaker 3: way there, yeah, but you look but yeah, you look great.

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Speaker 3: And I even wore I wore there this for you today.

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Speaker 3: So keep you making you still feel like maybe you're

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Speaker 3: on vacation. You went with a double legal. I actually

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Speaker 3: wear the double eagle over the weekend, and somebody's like

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Speaker 3: double eagle.

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Speaker 2: It's funny when the real ones pretty good. That's a

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Speaker 2: pretty good place. That is that is pretty good place.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. What I miss anything? Anything happened?

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Speaker 3: You have missed a great many things. As a matter

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Speaker 3: of fact, we got do we have a decord?

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Speaker 4: We have a.

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Speaker 3: Defensive coordinator, not officially reportedly, but officially, we've got that.

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Speaker 3: We've had no did we just miss you quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: comb Horizon.

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Speaker 2: Combine will be here next week. We'd look forward to

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Speaker 2: that the winner game they're going on.

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Speaker 3: Young Gabriel's crying right now because he doesn't know just

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Speaker 3: yet what's happening with Sidney Crosby, who was who was

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Speaker 3: injured in their game against the Czech Republic.

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Speaker 2: Big Pittsburgh guy, Young Gabriel, I didn't know that they're

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Speaker 2: big permannys is he liked the primanny in the nachos

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Speaker 2: at the stadium too.

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Speaker 3: He said, yes, yes, as though he was insulted that

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Speaker 3: you even had to ask.

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Speaker 2: Well, document, Young Gabriel, illness. I've ever felt that was

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Speaker 2: not you just.

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Speaker 5: Got big time. He just rap reported you. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what that means, picked up a phone and walked off. Well, Gabriel, wait,

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Speaker 5: hold on, I gotta take this, and he.

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Speaker 3: Walked, well, you know what, I believe that that must

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Speaker 3: be a very important phone call. I believe that must

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Speaker 3: be important, and I think we should support young Gabriel

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Speaker 3: till we find out the truth. Well, so I Rapaport

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Speaker 3: told me in the middle of interview, I'm on the phone,

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Speaker 3: and then I could see his phone.

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Speaker 2: It was not well, he was not on the phone,

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Speaker 2: not at all. It was just rude. I do remember that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember that. Well. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He literally just looked at me was like, I got

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Speaker 5: to take this. So I bet it's important. It's probably

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Speaker 5: important for you, and I think we should hold on,

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Speaker 5: hold on, hold on. This is this is Young Gabriel's

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Speaker 5: mentor trying to run it back after he walked in today,

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Speaker 5: proceeded to stick his hand into Young Gabriel's chest, pull

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Speaker 5: out the heart, stomp on it and just go, hey,

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Speaker 5: you'll be fine, rub some dirt on it.

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Speaker 3: So I come in and and Young Gabriel looks like

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Speaker 3: the human embodiment of a Smashing Pumpkins album Melancholy in

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Speaker 3: the Infinite Sadness, And.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. I saw a woman on the plane

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Speaker 2: in that T shirt Melancholy the Infinite Sadness yesterday that I.

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Speaker 3: Was still just rand and he looked very forlorn, and

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Speaker 3: I said, what's wrong? Like, are you Canadian at the time?

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Speaker 3: Losing before one of the most insane deflected shots. Ever,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure Freeman and many others are jumping for

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Speaker 3: joy at this point, but he was like.

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Speaker 2: Sidney Crosby Gunnar.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, so what.

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 2: So what?

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Speaker 5: At one point, j Mack and I are like, how

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Speaker 5: are we going to talk him off? I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: talk him off the ledge and Jordan's essentially trying to

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Speaker 5: push him to the legend over the ledge. I go, hey,

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Speaker 5: now he is completely out of it and we need

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Speaker 5: him the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the day.

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Speaker 3: Big Penguins fan. And then I said, what I said,

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Speaker 3: you've had Lemieux Yager, Sidney Crosby won how many Stanley Cups?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, you're fine.

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Speaker 5: He literally was furious, Fine, you've won a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean what I mean Crosby's won.

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Speaker 3: Three he won sixteen and seventeen. Yeah, three in his

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Speaker 3: life Cups? Yeah, So what's the what's the big deal?

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Speaker 2: So what? How is he is he out? Like, what's

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Speaker 2: the problem? What do we got? We don't know, we

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Speaker 3: Don't know yet. It's not even trending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't even seem like anyone's worried about it.

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Speaker 5: It sounds that the talk in the locker room after

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Speaker 5: the second intermission, because he went between the second and

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Speaker 5: He went to the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Look at this guy, Look at him?

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Speaker 2: Does he paint it on? Look at that, Just paint

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Speaker 2: it on.

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Speaker 5: Look at that we're talking about, because just.

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Speaker 2: A little toe kick.

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Speaker 3: I want you to know that when I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: your dreams, we've already hugged. Don't stop trying to drive

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Speaker 3: what I just said. If he had to take a

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Speaker 3: call in the middle of this program, it had to

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Speaker 3: be important. We should support until we find out what's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was the you have to tell us if it's

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Speaker 2: a serious, like serious to come in here and tell

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Speaker 2: us some wolf race. Yeah, we got your back, young

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Speaker 2: g Yeah, cool, cool.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying that maybe it was it was

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Speaker 3: it a Sidney Crosby update.

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Speaker 5: No, I wish it was the reporting lower body injury

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Speaker 5: whatever that means.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NHLA, that's what they do. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: always lower body The word hit from Ratco gouddis who's

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Speaker 2: now on the top of my bleep list, as some

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Speaker 2: people would say it, and now and now we got

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Speaker 2: to get over it, Like this is my livelihood we're

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Speaker 2: talking about. Here's what I would say.

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Speaker 3: Ari on Twitter says that using his football knowledge, it's

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Speaker 3: at most in mc l injury, won't require surgery. Probably

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Speaker 3: can play through it for a couple of games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the the Canadian locker room is that he's

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Speaker 5: so upset about Canada's gold medal chances.

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Speaker 2: So he's a Canadian fan. He cares for the Pittsburg

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Speaker 2: I don't know how else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then he came out and he's like, you had

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Speaker 3: all the Niners Super Bowls. I said, yea, we have

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Speaker 3: want thirty years, been a while, seventeen, sixteen and seventeen

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Speaker 3: attacking me immediately what I'm clearly in disarray. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm supporting you. Give is doing this. This is the instigator.

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Speaker 3: Take a note, take notes here. This is an instigator

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Speaker 3: instigating and stirring the pot. We're good, We've hugged. We're

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Speaker 3: totally good here.

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Speaker 2: Doctor j.

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Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time together today, and.

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't understand what what's the what's the

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Speaker 3: There isn't an issue Gibbe is making exactly Gibbe is

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Speaker 5: I was recapping the you might have been at your

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Speaker 5: lowest point and I don't know how long a while,

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Speaker 5: and Zagura came in today and literally ripped the heart out,

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Speaker 5: stomped on it and said, hey, eat my shorts.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been eat my shorts in a long time.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's fantastic. The day has improved tenfold, though,

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Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. All right, well, good, there's

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Speaker 2: your update on that team USA is playing now right

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Speaker 2: about two two minutes.

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Speaker 5: Were about ready to they're coming out of the tunnels,

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Speaker 2: So something happened yesterday on my flight back which I

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Speaker 2: had not seen before. Oh I had a theory on

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Speaker 2: why it's happening. Okay, So this was around nine am Pacific.

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Speaker 2: I got a notification saying that my flight, which was

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Speaker 2: originally intended to leave off at twelve forty twelve to

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Speaker 2: so it was at nine am. So I said, that's

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Speaker 2: the jumping off point. It's going to get worse and

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Speaker 2: worse as the day goes along. It's sure enough one

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Speaker 2: an how we're delayed a whole hour? Ye, and so

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Speaker 2: now can I make the connection in Dallas? This is

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Speaker 2: now that's a big point of contentious Can we make

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Speaker 2: the connection? And the reality is it was going to

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Speaker 2: be what was going to be an hour and ten

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Speaker 2: minutes of a connection time is now ten. But you

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Speaker 2: have to remember too that that connection time is to departure,

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Speaker 3: So like they know you're coming, those same Mariline theoretically

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Speaker 2: Hopefully hopefully American, so hopefully they take care of business.

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Speaker 2: So we are at the airport in Palm Springs and

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Speaker 2: it's it had been departure one fifty six, and all

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that before. Okay, I've never seen us

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Speaker 2: peel time back on a departure that I've never seen that.

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Speaker 2: It's always just once it's there, it only gets worse

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Speaker 2: and worse. So it got less. So incoming plane lands

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Speaker 2: at twelve fifty six. Eleven, yeah, twelve fifty six. So okay,

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Speaker 2: well maybe we can get this sunce They get on

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Speaker 2: a load, get us on the other one. Pilot goes,

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Speaker 2: this plane's been running behind all day. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: you from here to Dallas. We've got a good back win.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get you from here to Dallas in two

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Speaker 2: hours instead of two hours and forty five minutes. Step

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Speaker 2: on it. We're cooking with gas. Let's go. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: so land in Dallas, sure enough, get there in two hours.

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Speaker 2: The lovely flight attendant gets on the thing and says, look,

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Speaker 2: you got a bunch of people with tight connections. If

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Speaker 2: you don't have a tight connection, please stay seated. Allow

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Speaker 2: for the folks that we have a ton of them

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Speaker 2: in the back of the plane that really have tight connections. Pa,

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Speaker 2: stay seated to let those people off. What percentage this is?

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Speaker 3: This is one of the things that drives me nuts.

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Speaker 5: Less than one percent listened to that.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, they listen. They don't care. Zero percent of people.

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Speaker 3: There are one hundred percent of people who did not

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Speaker 2: So we I think not quite. I was actually surprised

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Speaker 2: at the humanity here. We were in row seventeen. It

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Speaker 2: was a big plane. We were in Row seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: I would say there were at least a dozen people

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Speaker 2: ahead of us who didn't have that stayed seated, and

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Speaker 2: I just said, I thanked every one of them because

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Speaker 2: we still had a tight connect with everything that was

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Speaker 2: factoring in. And so off we go. We got it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's Dallas. You gotta get on the train

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Speaker 2: and you got to do all the things to get there.

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Speaker 2: And it's supposed to be fourteen minutes from gate to gate.

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Speaker 2: We've got about twenty five minute. Is kind of something

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Speaker 2: we should be fine. So we take off, run and

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Speaker 2: we get there, get there and plenty of time. Then

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Speaker 2: That is rare. So I've never seen this before where

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Speaker 3: No, you The last time I was on a flight

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Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand or whatever. I wonder if this is a

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Speaker 5: All I know is they got to go to Mexico

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Speaker 2: You I know who's really excited about that.

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Speaker 3: He's already saying that it has been absolutely just it's

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Speaker 3: So this is a Stadio as Tech, officially known as

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Speaker 3: the Stadio but Norte for sponsorship reasons, is a football

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Speaker 2: So this is as Techa. Yes, yes, it's just a

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Speaker 3: It's now known as the Stadio, but Norte for sponsorship reasons.

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Speaker 5: What it was supposed to happen. Remember, like the field

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Speaker 5: Oh that's right, they had to bring the teams back.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. My dad not pleased at all, though,

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Speaker 5: He's what do you have the patience to be on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah he's done New Zealand, so the yeah,

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Speaker 5: That is like three games in London, Madrid, Spain, Melbourne, Australia,

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Speaker 2: professional the Quebec Nordics. Come on, come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: come on. I go to Emery. The next level is

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Speaker 5: The next level just ended. Actually I think it's ESPN

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Speaker 2: But that's a nice flairwalk he's doing out there. It's

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Speaker 2: just peacocking around with flair. You may actually leave. This

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Speaker 2: been a news from the NFL as well. Good jeb

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Speaker 2: at you. The Seattle Seahawks officially up for sale. Schefty

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Speaker 2: reporting the Seahawks could sell for a ten billion, which

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Speaker 2: has set a record for sale of a sports team.

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Speaker 2: Pretty dangn good time to sell. Paul Allen's been gone

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Speaker 2: Do the Lakers have the current record for the most

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Speaker 2: expensive sale of a professional sports team. I think the

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: Schefter was on McAfee today saying he thinks that the

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Speaker 5: that from another NFL owner.

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Speaker 2: So the Lakers, Yes, Lakers ten billion. Ten billion was

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Speaker 2: the Lakers valuation.

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Speaker 3: The veiggest ever in the NFL was six. Washington yep, yeah,

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Speaker 3: at five plus six.

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Speaker 5: I think right around well.

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Speaker 2: There's Washington usurped it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta tell you something that is it four

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Speaker 3: I know it's the Lakers, but there's maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like the NFL so and an NBA

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Speaker 2: They're not. But there was another one.

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Speaker 3: The Celtics sold for six Commanders six, Denver Broncos four

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Speaker 3: points six. So that's Phoenix Suns for Mavericks three and

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Speaker 3: a half, Charlotte Hornets three, Mets two point four, Brooklyn

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Speaker 2: That was a very good investment. I think I would say, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that the Celtics for six is what got

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Speaker 2: the Lakers ten. That was the that was the thing

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Speaker 2: that did it. And I think the other thing with

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Speaker 2: the NBA expansion stuff you're going to talk about could

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Speaker 2: be upwards of a two billion and expansion fees for

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Speaker 2: Seattle and Vegas, so that comes in right away. The

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Speaker 2: other thing with the NBA is you have you do

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Speaker 2: have true international interest in the NBA, overseas interest, like

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Speaker 2: in terms of people consuming it. It's a national I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a more of a global sport than the NFL is.

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Speaker 2: But if you were to tell me would you rather

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Speaker 2: own the Washington Commanders of the Los Angeles Lakers, I'd

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Speaker 2: probably choose the Washington Commanders, yes, pretty easily. And maybe

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks too. Now you got to be careful if

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Speaker 2: you're if you're Allen like, not that anyone ever moved

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, but remember the last time a Seattle team

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Speaker 2: was sold, they sold it to some oil barons from

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, That's right, and all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: So that's pretty well. It is wild to me.

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Speaker 3: People think that the most expensive NFL valuation right now

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Speaker 3: I think if they were up for sale, they might

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Speaker 3: even sell for more than that.

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Speaker 2: Who's two ramit. Let's see, you got to own the stadium,

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Speaker 2: you gotta be in a massive market like the Giants,

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Speaker 2: although they they don't don't know if they own the stadium.

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Speaker 2: This is from Forbes.

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Speaker 3: Forbes says Cowboys thirteen billion. This for twenty twenty five Rams,

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Speaker 3: ten and a half, Giants ten.

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Speaker 2: So good job out of you.

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Speaker 3: Patriots nine nine Ers, nine Eagles, eight Bears, eight Jets eight,

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Speaker 3: Vegas eight, Commander seven point six.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice return into near investment in one year.

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Speaker 3: Billion six, Dolphins seven, five, Texans seven, four, Broncos seven,

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Speaker 2: This is from Forbes.

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Speaker 3: This is the operating income that they list for some

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: The Rams, which is the second most valuable, their revenues

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Speaker 3: This operating income, nobody's even close to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Well, they play on a different level. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: got his own marketing deal, he's got you know, all

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Speaker 3: What's crazy is though, just like think about it from

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Speaker 3: in operating income six hundred and twenty nine two forty.

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Speaker 3: That's four to twenty six forty. They make as much

440
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Speaker 3: as the next three teams on this list combined. That's

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Speaker 3: an operating income. So that I would tell you that

442
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Speaker 3: that bind.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a doppelganger for that, you're probably

444
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Speaker 2: going to have to go to European soccer and say,

445
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: like Real Madrid versus the next three teams in La Liga.

446
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the problem it's because it and yes that

447
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: is probably apples to apples, but because it is the NFL.

448
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: It's almost more like if the number one team in

449
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Speaker 3: the Champions League was making as much as.

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Speaker 2: Two three and four, that's I mean, young Gabriel could

451
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Speaker 2: weigh in. I bet you that. I bet you that's

452
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Speaker 2: not far off off. In terms of Real Madrid versus

453
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Speaker 2: the next three, my hunch would be Barcelona. I'm guessing

454
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Speaker 2: Bayern Munich and one of the English teams, whether it's

455
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: man City used to be man United forever, but they

456
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Speaker 2: it hasn't been them for a while. Arsenal will be

457
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: way up there. Chelsea City all right, so Forbes has it.

458
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: We'll see what forbes. Those would be my comparisons.

459
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Speaker 3: Are Real Madrid is one one at six point point

460
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: seven five billion valuation evaluation, so the most expensive is

461
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: middle of the pack NFL. Yep, they don't have their

462
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Speaker 3: operating income.

463
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Speaker 2: They still have Man United way up there.

464
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Speaker 3: Man U is two, Barcelona's three, Liverpool four. How can

465
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Speaker 3: I forget Liverpool, Man City five, Bayern Munich six, PSG seven,

466
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Speaker 3: Arsenal eight, Tottenham Hotspur nine, Chelsea ten, yea Ventus eleven.

467
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Speaker 2: There you go. What's he all excited about? Now? Spurs

468
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: is not worth three point three billion? Come on? Never

469
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: want anything? Never never. They're in London though, and they

470
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Speaker 2: own their stadium. I think, don't they or do they

471
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: give them? Do they play a new No, they play

472
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Speaker 2: it their own We played there. Yeah, they have their

473
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Speaker 2: own joint.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nice stadium.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would I mean that's I look, that's

476
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Speaker 2: gonna be interesting. I mean, it's not often NFL teams

477
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Speaker 2: come to market the let alone the defending ranging champions, Yeah.

478
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Speaker 3: Conquering defending super Bowl champions of the world.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

480
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Speaker 2: And three super Bowl appearances in the last twenty five

481
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Speaker 2: years and two wins. There is it? Four and two? No,

482
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: it's four and two. They lost to the Steelers. Yeah,

483
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: beat the Broncos lost to the Patriots. Beat the Patriots.

484
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: Correct.

485
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: Four appearances, two titles.

486
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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, should have three titles to just hand the

487
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: ball off to Marshawn Lynch fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good run.

489
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Speaker 4: Man.

490
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: Did you see I don't I didn't hear all of it.

491
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: Robert Turbin, who was with us for a little while,

492
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Speaker 3: who was a running back on that team, who had

493
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Speaker 3: some of the legit, biggest like pipes I've ever seen

494
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Speaker 3: in my life. Guy was jacked out of his mind.

495
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Speaker 3: He was on a podcast this week. I don't know

496
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Speaker 3: if you guys can find the clip, if anybody saw it,

497
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Speaker 3: or it's even worth But the takeaway from it without

498
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: me listening, so to be fair, yep, was that he

499
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: said everybody talks about the play and the decision to

500
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: call the play in this he said there could be

501
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Speaker 3: a thirty for thirty on the locker room immediately after

502
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: that game.

503
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Cam Chancellor Richard Sherman, Earl.

504
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: Thomas Lynch had to be Marshaun had to be out

505
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: of his mind versus Carrol Russ. It had to be

506
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: something nuts. But that's what he said that I was interested.

507
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: I was interested in learning more.

508
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: That is a you know, who would know that team.

509
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Speaker 5: I remember Sure screaming at the top of his lungs.

510
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 5: You took that from us and he was talking directly

511
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: to Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that it was a So the thinking

513
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: behind that call was throw it on third down and

514
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: then run it on fourth because if it's incomplete, you

515
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Speaker 2: get another play. Was that what he is? That how

516
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: he explained it away. I don't if memory serves, because

517
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: that was that play was not on fourth down. It

518
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: was either on second or third down, and the clock

519
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: was down. Yeah, because Belichick didn't call the time out.

520
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: Belichick didn't call the time out, so the clock was

521
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: winding and it.

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00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: Was like a second down, and so he knew that

523
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: he would have to pass and stop the clock or

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Speaker 3: on one of them. And so he figured if he

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Speaker 3: passed on the first down. That down was actually fifty

526
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Speaker 3: to fifty if he ran on the on second if

527
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: he ran on second down and it was stopped, they

528
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Speaker 3: would know that they had to throw it on the

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Speaker 3: next play. And so his thought process was, I'm gonna

530
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: throw it on the play where it's fifty to fifty,

531
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Speaker 3: like they don't know what we're.

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00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Gonna do, right, yeah, which just sound yeah.

533
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: But apparently it did not. That did not go well.

534
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Speaker 2: It's an all time play.

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Speaker 3: It's an all time play, absolutely, all time Yes, and a.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah le definer all of it. I mean it changes everything.

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Speaker 3: By the way, tell him somebody that they stole something

538
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Speaker 3: from you. It doesn't go well in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it does not. No, it does not

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00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: go well. All right, there you go. Those are your

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Speaker 2: continue our position reviews in the quarterback room, doctor Ze.

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Speaker 3: This is obviously the most important room in all the

556
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: professional sports, and it's one that the Browns hope that

557
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: bringing in a guy like Todd Monkin, who has had

558
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks play their best for him, you know, throughout his

559
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 3: ten years and worked with a lot of different kind

560
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks that he can get the absolute most out

561
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: of That is something that I certainly want to see

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00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: happen as well. I was gonna say, young Gabriel, something

563
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: here was not right.

564
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: These capits don't look exactly.

565
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: No, no, they did not. They looked a bit robust

566
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: in some cases and then non existent in others where

567
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: there were quite robust. Look, you've got two young guys

568
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: who started thirteen games for you last year Shoudor sanders

569
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: On Gabriel, then you got Deshaun Watson, and obviously the

570
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: best scenario for the Cleveland Browns is that one of

571
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: those three comes the answer in the in the sense

572
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: of Deshaun Watson, it's that he regains the form that

573
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: unfortunately we haven't seen since the year twenty twenty. If

574
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: we're being totally honest about it now, there were glimpses

575
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. There were glimpses there that maybe,

576
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: you know, that would be the year that Deshaun could

577
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: turn it around. Yeah, he's five and one as a starter,

578
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: even though really he can't count the Indie game. He

579
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: gets a credit for that win, but that was the

580
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: one where he has the great you know, comeback against

581
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: Baltimore and you say to yourself, Okay, this is it.

582
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: We're going now, and then we never really got to

583
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: see that again, you know, the Deshaun Watson that's twenty

584
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty twenty, which really is so long ago

585
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: that Deshaun Watson averaged, you know, over four thousand yards

586
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: a season, that Deshaun Watson threw for eighty five touchdowns

587
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: and just twenty eight interceptions that Sean Watson was a

588
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: highest rated quarterback in NFL history. Yep, that Shahn Watson

589
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: completed sixty eight percent, sixty seven percent, and seventy percent

590
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: of his passes with the Browns, and three years it

591
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: was fifty at sixty one sixty three. I thought there

592
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: was a point in time where it was probably unlikely

593
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: that he would play again for the Browns. I think

594
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: that it is now certainly within the realm possibility. I

595
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: have a new coaching staff, have a new coach, and

596
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: he's going to give these guys the opportunity to compete

597
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: and figure out exactly who is going to be the start.

598
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: Was that a luminary that was just here? I think

599
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: that was a luminary that was just here? Was that

600
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: from you? H yeah? Oh oh, that's illuminary? Oh kibbing.

601
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: I can't believe you're asleep at the wheelback there, dude.

602
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: Knowing I would do a segment.

603
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: We have a huge luminary walk by, huge in a

604
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: lot of ways and all, you know, nothing, nothing, that's

605
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: an in our ear alert.

606
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's got to be known. I got a

607
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 2: you know, little heads up for the kids. Kids in here.

608
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: He was not looking no way.

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Speaker 5: Number one, if the communicators could communicate in advance of arrivals, well,

610
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Speaker 5: that would be appreciated.

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Speaker 2: It would be appreciated. It would have been nice to know.

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00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 5: That that makes a week. Yes, it doesn't make a day,

613
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: It most certainly does. It makes a week, It certainly does.

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Speaker 5: The reflection. I was able to figure it out relatively quickly.

615
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: I figured and I had to figured out while overlooking

616
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Speaker 3: a monitor that had the sun which is distracting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then none of dissent. I know this is

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Speaker 2: what you do. It's a good job of you. Thank you,

619
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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand how there wasn't that level comes

621
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Speaker 3: How we're not involved in this?

622
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Yea, it probably should have been.

623
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: We should have been involved.

624
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: Let's get our top.

625
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: I don't know what do you want me to tell you?

626
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: I didn't know that's the.

627
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: Problem that we there was a grievance that we're airing.

628
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: We're not We're not coming at UK, we're not coming

629
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Speaker 3: to you.

630
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: We just think like you don't think.

631
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: You don't think I wanted to say hi.

632
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: When you get to the luminary of that level that

633
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: is friends with us, at least, let's break a little bread.

634
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Let's have lunch and embrace in the studio. An embrace yes.

635
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean come on yeah.

636
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Like the big like dap up.

637
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: How you doing?

638
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: So you need that's all I need? Back to what

639
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: we're talking for so destroy Yeah that you know. I

640
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: think you're going to get a full opportunity to go

641
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: through and figure out exactly what needs to be done.

642
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is you're going to get

643
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: a competition. And I think Shador Sanders is going to

644
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: get a real shot in this competition. I think Deshaun

645
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: Watson is going to get a real shot in competition.

646
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: I think Dylan Gabriel is probably at this point would

647
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: be viewed more as the backup, but I'm maybe he

648
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: also gets a shot.

649
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: I think.

650
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: I think if we've learned anything from last year, you

651
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: gotta just I think me if you're having a competition

652
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: max two, it's too much to try to have. And

653
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: it turned out last year was really a three person competition,

654
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: but that was even too much.

655
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: It was too much just the max of two.

656
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: And if you can figure it out, the quicker you

657
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: can figure out, I think the better for everybody involved.

658
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more and I Yeah, I think it's

659
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: one of those things you need to you can't have it.

660
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: You're you're pulling the organization pulls it itself in that

661
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: way then and it's nothing gets done and it's you're

662
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: kind of stuck in the muck. And you know, it

663
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: was such an interesting one last year because it was

664
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: it's pretty wild how the entire offseason was around Kenny

665
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: and that he was going to be it, and then

666
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: you get into August and he you know, he gets

667
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: the hamstring and then that then he was gone and

668
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: it was like, wow, that changed a lot, and a

669
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: lot of that was Dylan. I mean, that was a

670
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: lot of that was Dylan. That they that Kevin was

671
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: so impressed with Dylan what he did early in camp.

672
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: And then they had Joe too, they knew how that

673
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: was all going to work, and then away you go,

674
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: and it was between those two. So yeah, I think

675
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: it's this is a really fascinating one. And I think

676
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: the other thing that'll be really interesting is if there

677
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: are if there's another name added to this room. And

678
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: I think that's something that I'm really looking forward to

679
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: next week at the combine, is to Kenny get a

680
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: feel of what is the quarterback market. Who's in that market?

681
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a great one, and I would

682
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: say that if you're looking at it. So here are

683
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: the names that I would put in the quarterback market.

684
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: Malik Willis yep, Okay, I think you're gonna have Kyler

685
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: is going to be available. I think Tua is available.

686
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: I think Geno Smith is available, Yes, all of those.

687
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: You know.

688
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: I think mac Jones is available to.

689
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Well, I was no, but yeah, mac Jones is on

690
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: the is on like the Molik situation. But I think

691
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: it's going to take at least at a second round

692
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: pick to get mac Jones. Otherwise they can hold them

693
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: and let him go next year and get a third anyway, Yeah,

694
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: and also have mac Jones. An event that something were

695
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: to happen to brock per games this year, Willis is

696
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: going to be the top target. Willis is going to

697
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: end up I think somehow for a guy who started

698
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: six games, I think he's going to make him like

699
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: thirty million dollars a year.

700
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: I think it'll be similar to the Donald money. And

701
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a whole year of starting or fourteen

702
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: wins that Donald had in Minnesota.

703
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: No, and I think that I think that puts him

704
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: most likely, not one hundred percent, but most likely out

705
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: of our doable price range.

706
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: Feels to me like he's gonna up in Miami with Halfley. Yeah,

707
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: if they can make it work money wise. You know,

708
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't know their cat.

709
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: I know, but if you're him. Here's the other thing though,

710
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: that people are thinking about right now. People seem to

711
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: think Miami's doing a one year tank. So if they're

712
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: tanking you, you don't want to be Milik Willis to

713
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: come in and start for your first year on a

714
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: tanking team. No, you don't want that at all. So

715
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: that's an that's an interesting I guess wrinkle to it. Look,

716
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: I think if you bring in a Malik Willis or

717
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: a mac Jones or even a Kyler at this point

718
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: to I don't know, I don't know if that's what

719
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: we're looking for. And Gino Smith I think is not.

720
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but doesn't feel like what we're

721
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: looking for. I mean, you feel bad for you know,

722
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Smith two years ago is on the Seahawks, he leaves,

723
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: they win the Super Bowl. He starts one year with

724
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: the Raiders, and now they have the first pick in

725
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: the draft and they're gonna have Mendoza.

726
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Yep.

727
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: So I mean maybe you think, look, if Geno Smith

728
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: plays for us, we're either winning the super Bowl or

729
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: getting the first pick next year. I mean, that would

730
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: be one reason to bring him in for the if

731
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: you're looking like the twenty twenty seven seven quarterback here

732
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: in twenty six next year, we're guaranteed to win the

733
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: super Bowl or get the first pick. I think if

734
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: you brought in a Milik Willis, he's your starter period.

735
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: There's no debate.

736
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: I think if you trade a second UND pick for

737
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, he's your starter period, there's no debate.

738
00:36:59,680 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: Yep.

739
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: I think in house, I think you've got to really see,

740
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: like if Shador Sanders, who showed a lot of good

741
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: flashes and there's a lot to like about him. You

742
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: and I there are a lot that we liked about him,

743
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 3: certainly coming out of college. There were things we saw

744
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: on tape that were very good. This year, there are

745
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: things on tip this here that we're not very good.

746
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: Where is he and his progression and that leap from

747
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: year one to year two? And then what does DeShawn

748
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: have left in the tank. You know, everybody loves a

749
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: comeback story. It's been I think long enough from him

750
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: being kind of in the mix that you never know.

751
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: But that's this that's the room. I mean, like there

752
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: it is.

753
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anybody in that room today

754
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: that you could say one percent we're going all in

755
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: with you. The only person to me that you could

756
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: even like make the case that you do that would

757
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: be would be Shador. Yeah, because you drafted him, he's

758
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: on your rookie deal. You say we're going to go

759
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: with it. And I think that if the sooner that

760
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: we can, if it is this room and there is

761
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: anybody at the sooner that we can say you are

762
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: that guy, the better for this team.

763
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: Yes, the better for this team. Yeah, I mean I

764
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: am curious. See what it looks like.

765
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: He gets every rep all offseason, you do, every cater

766
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: everything to his strengths, and Todd is really really good

767
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: with that. We draft the receiver at six, we get

768
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: bringing another tight end, maybe Isaiah likely. Let's say you've

769
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: got all of a sudden, now your twelve personnel is

770
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: Fanning and likely with Quinn Sean and you got you know,

771
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: Judy and Carnell Tait.

772
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, like you get some weaponry there.

773
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, or Isaiah Bond, you know, to run the big

774
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: clearouts and the verticals that I'm curious about. So that's

775
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: kind of to me where things are.

776
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: But it's not. This is not the best quarterback room

777
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: in the league.

778
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: I would imagine that many people are going to say,

779
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: you know, when they rank quarterback rooms going into this season,

780
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: ours will be in the bottom eight, bottom quartile.

781
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's fair.

782
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you can need somebody to play your

783
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: way out of that in house, or there needs to

784
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: be an addition made. I mean, we know it's an

785
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: offensive overhaul. I do think that, you know, seeing Shador

786
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: and even Dylan, who I think is gonna be a

787
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: very good backup in this league for quite some time.

788
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: You need this room is critically important to where we're

789
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: gonna be able to go. If we can, you know,

790
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: get solid quarterback play that makes us a top half

791
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: of the league offense, even if we're number sixteen in

792
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: that top half of the league. With our defense, I

793
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: think we have an opportunity to be pretty successful.

794
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

795
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And I the reason and

796
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: that's why I would think next week's gonna be interesting.

797
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: Is you know, there's all this Derek Carr stuff that's

798
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: out there. You saw it. You certainly saw the general's

799
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: comments down in Houston. C J. Stroud gets traded, he's

800
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: walking naked down a street, mister McLain with those comments

801
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: socially yesterday about CJ. So that's the other part of it, though,

802
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: And if if one of those dominoes starts to fall,

803
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: then there are corresponding moves that start to happen around

804
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: the league too. Of the ones not necessarily for us,

805
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: but in terms of like watching Todd's six sas with

806
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: in Baltimore, Yep, Kyler would be the one to me

807
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: that I would be curious to see what it looked

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: like running that type of offense. Okay, And not necessarily

809
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: to say that I that you want a paratroop Himani,

810
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: who knows what that would even look like or if

811
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: you could bring him in, But knowing taught and I

812
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: know that he mentioned that in his interview with you,

813
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: when you talked about the mobility, especially in the red zone,

814
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: the things that go with that. He's kind of the one.

815
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: I think he needs a dome. You know, we're not

816
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: getting a dome, not yet anyway, But like well, eventually

817
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: you'll have one. That's that's the one name out there

818
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: of the guys who could be available other than Willis,

819
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: who I like a lot. I do wonder if the

820
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: right people got a hold of Kyler because he's had

821
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: a pretty crazy NFL experience with coaches, three coaches.

822
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: Well, part of it has been I think.

823
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: His own doing too most definitely, Yeah, but there is there.

824
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: There's been times when you've watched play especially early in seasons,

825
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: when you go, man, that you can win with that dude.

826
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: Well, I've watched him play against US. I mean Kyler

827
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: Murray for his career sixty seven percent completions, one hundred

828
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: and twenty one touchdown, sixty picks, a quarterback rating for

829
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: his career of ninety two point two. I mean that's

830
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: better than Yeah, he's been a two time pro bowler.

831
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Way more established than anybody else on that list. Yeah.

832
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Now he is zero to one in one playoff appearance,

833
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: and he threw for one hundred and thirty seven yards

834
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: and two picks in that game. And then what he

835
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: does as a runner is also pretty youthful. He ever,

836
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: you know, run for four five hundred yards and five

837
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: or so touchdown. So he is somebody that can be

838
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: you know, productive, he lives and he's never thrown out

839
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: a four thousand yard season, but you know, thirty eight

840
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: hundred and in his last in his last full season.

841
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. Here's Kyler Murray twenty twenty one

842
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: to fourteen games, twenty twenty two, eleven games, twenty twenty three,

843
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: eight games twenty twenty four, full season, seventeen games twenty

844
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: twenty five, he played in just five games. He's thirty

845
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: eight and forty eight as a starter.

846
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: What was his last full season? Give me the stats.

847
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: If you have that up, sixty eight point eight percent completions,

848
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: three eight hundred and fifty one yards, twenty one touchdowns,

849
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: eleven picks, average seven point one yards per attempt, quarterback

850
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: rating of ninety three point five. If he had three

851
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 3: fourth quarter comebacks, three game winning drives in that one

852
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: as well, and he ran that season for five hundred

853
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 3: and seventy two yards and five touchdowns, averaging seven point

854
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: three yards a rush.

855
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: So I think he's the one who like if somehow,

856
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know what the path of him becoming available,

857
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: but he's the one that to me would be interesting

858
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: for a lot of teams. Not necessarily this isn't necessarily

859
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: a Browns conversation, But to me, he's the one that

860
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: I think will be interesting for a lot of teams

861
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: over there if like, what does that look like? How's

862
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: he become available? Because what you just let read off

863
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: there is last full season. That's pretty dangn good. Yeah,

864
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: that would be. That's in the top half of the

865
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: league on it for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I

866
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: know to it. I'm more worried the Tua injury stuff,

867
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: and that is I don't think it plays at that mobile. Yeah,

868
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: he doesn't have they.

869
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: Not this is outdoors. Like ky has got a hose.

870
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: He does has a very good army, but that would

871
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: be a whole different thing. And what would what does

872
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: that look like? What does it cost? What is the

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00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 3: acquisition cost?

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00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: All of those are going to be questions for for

875
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, next week, if you'll get a feel if.

876
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: Here's those the market with Kyler. Kyler is.

877
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: If he was traded, I.

878
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: Don't know exactly what our number would be, but his

879
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: cap number the next year's forty three fifty two, forty one,

880
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: forty six. Sign a contract's extension in twenty twenty two,

881
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: how are they going to move him? So if they

882
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: were to trade him before June first, they'd have a

883
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: dead cap of seventeen million and a savings of thirty

884
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: four So that means whoever, wherever he goes, you have

885
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: to pick up. It sounds like thirty four million to

886
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Speaker 3: pay him this year.

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00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So there you go. That's where that room is,

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00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: and you know, potentially if there are additions, may do it.

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Speaker 2: That's who some of those editions could be. We will

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Speaker 2: do you have? A score update? Team USA over there give.

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Speaker 5: I think we're at the intermission zero zero. In the

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00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 5: first intermission.

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Speaker 2: The shiffer and girl won gold. So that yeah, by

905
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: a second and a half.

906
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Speaker 5: Crushed it, which is good because yesterday I think was

907
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: like a rough day for Team USA. Like I mean,

908
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: they're winning medals, but there were some that were projected gold,

909
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: that silver, any not.

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00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: The you know what. I kind of came to the realization,

911
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: do you know how many Winter Olympic sports there are?

912
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: How many events there are? It's only like sixteen, you

913
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: nailed it, there are sixteen exactly good job out of

914
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: you give it, you get the gold star. I really

915
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: think there's only about six sports. They're just different varieties

916
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: of the same thing.

917
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: Like what are you counting? Like, so like there's skiing

918
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: women combined, there's.

919
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: Downhill skiing, like all the alpine skiings, so that's one sport.

920
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: Well they counted as one. But I would say that

921
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: alpine skiing isn't that different from freestyle skiing, which isn't

922
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: that different from cross country skiing, which isn't that different

923
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: from the biathlon, which isn't that different from mountaineering. Those

924
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: are all skiing, I think, like downhill but in the

925
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: in the summer Olympics, we just call it all swimming, right,

926
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: there's breaststroke, butterfly, freestyle, whatever. I am all of it,

927
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: but it's all just swimming. These are this is all

928
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: just skiing. It's just different varieties of it. Sure, same

929
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: thing with the skating, figure skating, speed skating, short track,

930
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: speed skating. It's all just skating. Think about the luge, luge,

931
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: bob sled, skeleton, get it an apparatus, or get on

932
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Speaker 2: an apparatus and go down.

933
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Speaker 3: Fast, two man lugetand somebody somebody like, you know what

934
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in the two man loose?

935
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: Hey, we got we got something. We need another event.

936
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Speaker 2: What if we put another dude or or gal and

937
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: yet's go to what do they do? The only different?

938
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: What is the what is the skeleton? You can you

939
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: get it? You go ahead first and you get a

940
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: running start, louge, you do the thing where they you know,

941
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Speaker 2: propel themselves and it's feet first.

942
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: But why did they feel first?

943
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 5: Why are there two? Why is.

944
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: My point?

945
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: Person?

946
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 5: If I can't see what I think?

947
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: That's there's like three sports that they've turned into sixteen events.

948
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: Curling's got four Curling stands on its own.

949
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: And then hockey. So that's it.

950
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: I think there's kind of skating, isn't it.

951
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: I think there's like five or six sports and they've

952
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: turned it into sixteen events. I really do. Yeah, I

953
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Speaker 2: mean the summer game skiing again, but jumping now we're jumping,

954
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: well you jumping freestyle.

955
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Sure do get big air big air snowboarding. Snowboarding similar

956
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 3: to skiing one plank versus two.

957
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, you usually have to start on skis

958
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: and then go to snowboard.

959
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: That's usually what they do. Yeah, I know, like at

960
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Boston Mills, they they make you goes, they won't teach

961
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: my audies, and then they get you a snow work

962
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: by the time you finally get there. Yeah, so it's

963
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: all done. What this weekend?

964
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Speaker 5: Sunday?

965
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Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, and the Golden Medal Hockey Games at

966
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: like eight ten in the morning on Sunday, that's right,

967
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: which is be interesting. So it's set. It'll be if

968
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: we can handle our business, it should be Us against

969
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Canada in the final, which will be if that if

970
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: you get that at eight ten in the morning, I

971
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: think that's like the final event.

972
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: I would think of the Olympics.

973
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, did the NBA All Star Game register for you

974
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: guys at all? I enjoyed it.

975
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: It was on in the background as I was getting

976
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: ready to go to dinner over the anniversary weekend. I

977
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: enjoy I think they played hard. I liked it, did it? Yeah,

978
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was fun. I always judge this shots

979
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: it was the ratings were the highest.

980
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: They Yeah, they did like eight million.

981
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

982
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: I was judged this by my kids because I think

983
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: that's the audience that they're trying to get. And there

984
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: was no mention of can we watch, which I thought

985
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: was a pretty bit damning piece of evidence that they

986
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: were like, now, we were on vacation, so that probably

987
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: factored in, but there wasn't like, hey we got to

988
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: watch this, like that didn't happen.

989
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it with an eight or nine million,

990
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 5: but again, great number. An All Star Saturday night, you know,

991
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 5: I'm out, I'm out with some friends Saturday night. Yeah,

992
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 5: like I want to watch three point shootout was done

993
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: and it was still daylight out.

994
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: Who won it?

995
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

996
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know who won that or the dunk maybe

997
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: the first time ever. I don't know who won either.

998
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 5: One like because they wanted to get done to go

999
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 5: to the Olympics. You're your own thing.

1000
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: It was on NBC. Yeah, so there's your eight million

1001
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: number two that helped. Yeah, so that's a big part

1002
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: of the eight million number.

1003
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 5: I just I was like, we can't have this at

1004
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 5: six thirty at night. Yeah, like I can't know.

1005
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: That's not it. That ain't it at all? Am I

1006
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: reading this right? De Orlando was up next.

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00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, we want to know about our new defensive coordinator.

1008
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: God, go to the source. I mean you want to.

1009
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about with that guy

1010
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: that goes all time. Hall of fa Off. He's off.

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00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: De Orlando coming up next to listen to Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: He is De Orlando Ledbetter Atlanta Falcons beat writer for

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Journal Constitution, and he joins us now live

1028
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: do Orlando. Great to talk to you, my friend. You

1029
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: like Mike Rutenberg coming in here for us?

1030
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I do, and thanks for that wonderful and production.

1031
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: I think he's a good addition to coach Monk and staff.

1032
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: He certainly has put in the work coming up the

1033
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 4: coaching ladder and did a great jobbins one year here

1034
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: in Atlanta.

1035
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: De Orlando.

1036
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: What was it about that Falcons defense last year that

1037
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: allowed them to be so successful? Obviously they keep Jeff

1038
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: Oldrick there, and we know that Kevin Sefanski, our former

1039
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: head coach and now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons,

1040
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: will talk abou him in a six. But what what

1041
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: can Rutenberg bring from his kind of time with all

1042
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: brick with solid before that, you know, to the the

1043
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: Browns that you saw be successful with the Falcons a

1044
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 3: year ago.

1045
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the intricacy of connecting you know, the

1046
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: back end of the defense to the front end, and

1047
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: uh in unison and doing a lot of different things

1048
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: with with new people. I mean there were rookies back

1049
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: there all over the place and uh, you know, sprinkled

1050
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 4: in with some veterans that they were rotating in and

1051
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 4: out with. But the ability to teach and motivate, uh,

1052
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: and put together a cohesive unit even though you know

1053
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 4: they had hose. Uh, they did a good job for

1054
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: the most part of you know, top second in the

1055
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: league and rushing the pastor had to do some games

1056
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 4: and blitz to do that, but at worked when they're

1057
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: coverage was able to hold up on the back end.

1058
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: So pretty intricate stuff they were doing here. Uh, you know,

1059
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: not so much in in the in New York, uh,

1060
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: under said, but you know they have better players. They

1061
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 4: could just hold their ground and play you know, zone

1062
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: and let the front get after you. But here they

1063
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: had to you know, coach us and stuff and scheme

1064
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 4: up and things and and it worked pretty good. And

1065
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: Mike was a big part of that.

1066
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Do Orlando, what what can you tell us about Mike

1067
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: from a personality standpoint, He's replacing obviously Jim Schwartz here,

1068
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: who's got a massive personality. What what can you tell

1069
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: us about leadership style? Personality?

1070
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, very very personal. The players uh uh gravitated to him.

1071
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 4: They called him coach. Rudy was more like the friends.

1072
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: He can play the free row while Oldbrook could play

1073
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: that test master role. So that one consider moving to

1074
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: the head spot. You're not gonna better be friends with everybody,

1075
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: but you know the players that I talked to you saying, hey,

1076
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: this guy is making us better. This guy simplifying thing

1077
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 4: for us. Now we should just go play football and

1078
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: go faster. So his ability to teach and motivate, you know,

1079
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: it was kind of thing you know that came through

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: and personally, you know, I like the guy came up

1081
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: to me and said, hey, I've been watching marrying and

1082
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: work for years, So you know, it lanted me right

1083
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: after that when I talked to him. The personality, so

1084
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: he was my guy right away, and so I started

1085
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 4: digging a little more on him in his background, and

1086
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: it was fun watching him work last year doing that.

1087
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Speaker 3: Jerleano, what do you expect from from a Falcons perspective?

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: Now Kevin Stefanski is down there? Obviously some unfortunately some

1089
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: off the field issues have arisen. But what do you

1090
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: expect to become the big stories around this Atlanta Falcons

1091
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 3: team when we head to the combine? And what are

1092
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: your kind of initial impressions of our former coach comings

1093
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: to fancy?

1094
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, coach Kevin, Yeah, watched that whole thing up there,

1095
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, did you know start off great getting the

1096
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 4: Browns back to the playoffs of the seventeen or nineteen years?

1097
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: I remember twelve. It's something like that. Too long, but

1098
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: then yeah, too low for sure, and then you know,

1099
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: nearly beating the Chiefs, which was big, uh, and you know,

1100
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Speaker 4: getting back there playing five quarterback to two coaches the

1101
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: other year. Uh. Deals and then everything, you know, the

1102
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 4: Deshaun Washstondale kind of submarined everything for him, uh, and

1103
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: the franchise, you know, with the injuries and the suspension

1104
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: and you know, still kind of rilling from that. But

1105
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: you know, people once they look at the whole record,

1106
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: they understand that, you know, this could be a very

1107
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: good hire for the Falcons. But a lot of people

1108
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 4: just look at the last couple of years and were like,

1109
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: these are I think he wanted eight games in the

1110
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: last two and you know they replacing Morris with a

1111
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: coach with losing record over the same period of time. So,

1112
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: you know, folks, both sides of the story here. Uh.

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00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: But when you dig a little deeper, you know that

1114
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: you know there was some some you know, good coaching

1115
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: going on at at some level there head in Minnesota.

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00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: Do Orlando, When was the last time that you said

1117
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 3: something that ignited an interdivisional rise? Read that I believe

1118
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: will end with the Falcons and the Buccaneers playing in

1119
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 3: Week one in prime time this year. And I believe

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Speaker 3: that you are solely responsible for that.

1121
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: Well, that wasn't I was trying to just write a

1122
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 4: story about the quarterback situation in Cleveland. I think it

1123
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: was nineteen starters under Stefanski. First, the first one was

1124
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, so he made the headline, and the second

1125
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: one was watching And you know, I went to dtr

1126
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: went to the whole list, Drisco, all of them, you know,

1127
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: and U but the Baker got triggered and retweeted it

1128
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 4: and you know said he called me his pale. I

1129
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 4: guess that was a good thing. But Dominic Bucklers did.

1130
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Speaker 3: Like my grandfather right there to Orlando, that was not

1131
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: that was not a friendly palel. That was how my grandfather.

1132
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 4: That's what I would come to understand. And Uh, now

1133
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: he wants coach Kevin uh on the middle of the

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00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: fifty uh when they show down and the showdown at

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00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: the old Sombrero down there in Tampa. We'll see if

1136
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 4: that's the opening week game or not.

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: I think, don't you think it's gonna be? I mean,

1138
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: I feel like.

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00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: That's a two years ago it was up here though,

1140
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, it makes sense to me.

1141
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: How how has the how has the hiring of Kevin

1142
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: down there? How is that hit with the fans?

1143
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: That was kind of slow gun. At first, you and

1144
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 4: everybody kind of jumped on the you know the fact

1145
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: that the Browns haven't been doing that well under him recently.

1146
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: But then once they dig in a little bit and saw,

1147
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: you know, what he did at Minnesota, what he did

1148
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: early on in Cleveland, and they certainly understood the Deshaun

1149
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: Washington deal because he was you know, he's from here

1150
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: from Gainesville right close to the practice facility, was a

1151
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: former ball boy for them. And then you know, if

1152
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: that unfolded, you know, the Falcons were beaters in that

1153
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: and lost it, uh you know, or they were still

1154
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: try and replace Matt Ryan. So they understand what happened,

1155
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: uh to the Browns and and coach Stefanski and they

1156
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: you know, traffling that Benjon playoffs for eight years, so

1157
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: he's got him beat in that regard. He's been to

1158
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: the playoffs. So uh, once you look at it and

1159
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: take a little bit bigger deeper, folks, are you know,

1160
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: in a better place with the hire?

1161
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: What is going to happen with Kirk Cousins and that

1162
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: quarterback situation because as you documented pretty well, the quarterback

1163
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: that was an issue for Kevin Stefanski here. You know,

1164
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: Pennix has been banged up. Kirk Cousins finish the year

1165
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: looked really good, but I know they kind of restructured

1166
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: that deal. What's what can you tell us from somebody

1167
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: down there? Because I know obviously Kirk played well for

1168
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 3: Kevin Sefanski in Minnesota, so they have a strong relationship.

1169
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: How do you see that quarterback room playing out.

1170
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there we're seeing it play out with

1171
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: the kirk Cousins probably being released here to happen at

1172
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,479
Speaker 4: the combine next week or so only for New year starts. Uh,

1173
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: because he wants to look at a starting situation somewhere

1174
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: wherever that is. So if he if he gets that,

1175
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: then he's on his way. Uh. The Falcons are holding

1176
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: out hope perhaps that you know, if that doesn't happen, uh,

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: you know, and the best situation for him is uh

1178
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta with Kevin Stefanski, then you know, they'll

1179
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: keep the door open for him, uh, you know, with

1180
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 4: a reasonable contract deal to to move forward with him

1181
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: as you know, the potential starter back up. Let him

1182
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: compete whatever uh situation with until Michael Pennix gets back

1183
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 4: under Kevin Stefancy, which you know, if he starts off,

1184
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: he might not lose his job this time around, uh

1185
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: because he'll know the system and know our coach uh

1186
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 4: Sefanski wants to play. Uh. So so it's the option

1187
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: that he comes back. But he certainly you know, he

1188
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 4: told him that he felt misled by the franchise when

1189
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: they drafted Pennix just months just weeks after signing him

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 4: to the local trips contract.

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: Dear LANDA Wood, he if you were you've watched all

1192
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: the snaps that Michael Pennox has taken in the NFL,

1193
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: if you were running in that operation, how would you

1194
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: How do you view him?

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01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: He has a young quarterback that's finding his way. I mean,

1196
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 4: I'm not expecting guys to come in and light it up. Uh.

1197
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, I did see Matt Ryan's first rookie year,

1198
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: but he didn't come in and light it up. He

1199
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 4: had a good defense, and he had a two thousand

1200
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: yard running back and Michael Turner and Jerry snow was

1201
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: so he had to All he had to do was

1202
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: get the lunch of STAPs came up, is looked at

1203
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 4: the right or left and throw at the rioting. So

1204
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's not that simple for quarterbacks these days.

1205
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: And you know, I like to see some more accuracy underneath.

1206
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: You know, that was a problem coming into the league

1207
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: because you know, people know he's got a gun, so

1208
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 4: they just laid back and you know, you dare him

1209
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 4: to throw in the cover. So he he wasn't comfortable

1210
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 4: hitting those underneath passes. Not a lot of stuff over

1211
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: the middle of the field. But you know, big enough

1212
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: arm and enough teaching with his footwork and so forth.

1213
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 4: That's those are minor holes. I'd rather have the hose

1214
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: underneath than him not having the ability to stretch defenses

1215
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: and throw it up the seam and so forth. So

1216
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: a lot of work for him to do, but he

1217
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: has got the talent in the arms to be a

1218
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 4: successful quarterback. And what you do worry about all the

1219
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 4: surgeries there have been five. This has been the fifth

1220
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: surgery for him.

1221
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a tough thing. One guy who kind

1222
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: of really came on for them. Last year we talked

1223
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: about the franchise tag window is open. Is Kyle Pitts

1224
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: a candidate for that?

1225
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: Do they do?

1226
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: You think they want to bring him back?

1227
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? We just, uh, that was my I gotta do

1228
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: one of those newsletter deals and that was the league

1229
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: was how you, you know, deal with Kyle Pitts? Do

1230
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: you They didn't tag them immediately, you certainly want to

1231
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: try to get an extension, and then if you don't,

1232
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: near the end of the period, you go ahead and

1233
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: tag them. And that's sixteen point sixteen, sixteen point three

1234
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: million on your cap. You only got twenty six, so

1235
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: you don't really want to do that either. But yeah,

1236
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitch is a candidate. Get the deal done so

1237
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: the CAP's not higher and you can go, i mean

1238
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: instead of cap numbers lower, so you can go after

1239
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: you know, haveing many free agents you want to get.

1240
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: You know, you got a lineback and you want to

1241
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: try to sign Kasan Ellis and maybe the big tackle

1242
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: David Oyamada. It probably can't resign them running back Tyler

1243
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: als year, but that's they're in a tight cap situation.

1244
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 4: A lot of that brought on by the Kirk Cousin contract.

1245
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: Dear Orlando, how would you rank the four teams in

1246
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: that division heading into the combine next week?

1247
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: Well, I still been Timpa Bay, even though they fell

1248
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 4: off a little bit last year. You know, it's probably

1249
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: the best team. Then. Uh, you know, I'm just not

1250
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: buying the Panthers for some reason. But they did play

1251
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: pretty good against the Rams in the playoffs, so I

1252
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 4: might have to reconsider that. But the Falcons, you know,

1253
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: they lost to Carolina twice, so you give them, you know,

1254
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: give them the nod over there. Uh they split with

1255
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. Uh, and then uh, you know then New

1256
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 4: Orleans is down there, you know, coming coming for everybody

1257
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: from the bottom now, so, uh, it's still I still

1258
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: think it's Tampa Bay, Carolina, the Falcons and these Saints. Yeah.

1259
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: Competitive, competitive, competitive, I like it.

1260
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: I think the Falcons are in that division.

1261
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: Are they going back to the old unis?

1262
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: Are they going some Yeah, they got uniform change coming up.

1263
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: The fans like the red helmets down here. Uh so

1264
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: I think they're going to answer to that. Uh. And

1265
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: you know some fans like the old Jerry Glanville black.

1266
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: On this show, do you Orlando, we call those the

1267
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: Jerry the Jeff Georges. Well one of us does, Oh,

1268
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: I call those the Jeff Georges. That's right, the black

1269
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: hill jersey over the silver pants. Those are tremendous. Some

1270
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: people call them the Yeah, but I tend to go Dion,

1271
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: and I can't. I tend to go Dion, he goes

1272
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: Jeff George. Very similar players. Listen, they got rid of

1273
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: Jeff George. They put Bobby Abear in there the next year,

1274
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: and they went straight to the bottom, straight down, straight down.

1275
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Speaker 2: June Jones, thanks for nothing, hey, buddy, thank you so much.

1276
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: I hope to see over at the combine, Sure, no.

1277
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Speaker 4: Problem, move hit up there Monday or Tuesday.

1278
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Speaker 2: Yes, sirry buddy, there you go. Orlando the Great, the Legend,

1279
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer De Orlando Ledbetter. Atlanta Journal Constitution

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah. Well, yeah, I don't know, just already.

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Speaker 3: They always have to do a pre combine one. Then

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Speaker 3: they'll do three point oh probably right out of the combine.

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Speaker 5: Three one is like on that Monday of combine week.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if they're like, hey, look, everybody's traveling on Monday,

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Speaker 5: so no one's ever around. Yeah, so maybe we need

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Speaker 5: a little you know, if we get it out the

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Speaker 5: week before the combine because there's nothing going on this

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Speaker 5: week in the NFL. No, you have Olympics going on.

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 5: NBA is dead till I don't know when, I think

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Speaker 5: tomorrow because of All All.

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Speaker 2: Star Yeah, so then yeah, there's not a lot going on. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: NHL obviously because of the hockey at the Olympics. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we continue to pick six and twenty four. Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: is most recent draft. Spencer Fano. You know what we

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Speaker 2: should do, we should have to do. We should have

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Speaker 2: either young Gabriel. I think it's be a great little

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Speaker 2: project for him track the mock drafts and as they go,

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Speaker 2: pick like three that we want to say, like these

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Speaker 2: are the ones we want to pay attention to and

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Speaker 2: I would be very interested to know like their first

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Speaker 2: mock draft, like just a straight line of guys mocked

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Speaker 2: to us over months. Because Spencer Fano to us is constant.

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Speaker 2: That's sick. I mean it's constant. I see that more

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Speaker 2: than anything else, more than Tate, more than a receiver,

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Speaker 2: It's Fano at six. He writes, the Browns should be

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Speaker 2: hoping one of the top offensive tackles is available to

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Speaker 2: them at six. Cleveland stakes Fano to start from day one,

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Speaker 2: and then at twenty four, DJ has us taking Georgia

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle Monroe Freeling. This draft to be a big

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Speaker 2: success with the Browns and the land two starting offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman they do in the scenario with Freeling joining Fano,

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Speaker 2: if Dwan Jones stays healthy, I think Fano could play

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Speaker 2: inside boy Sagara, how do you feel about that sixth

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Speaker 2: overall playing inside. I'm not a fan of this at all.

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Speaker 3: And and I was on a green chat with somebody

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Speaker 3: who is like offensive linemen or weapons not and I said, no,

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Speaker 3: they're not not. I said this.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I said, this outcome right here would make

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Speaker 2: me want a bomit unless we got a huge free

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Speaker 2: agent or trade wide receiver aj Brown comes in here, fine, okay,

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Speaker 2: started out sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was somebody on that group chat who

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Speaker 3: was pretty good at what he did, pretty good and

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Speaker 3: may have been on the offensive line. Didn't realize the

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Speaker 3: time he was on the chat.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have too many of those. We have too

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: many I don't know which one. And half the time,

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Speaker 2: like if I've had a cocktail, I got a double read, like,

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Speaker 2: all right, who's on this?

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Speaker 3: Well that's I did for my responses. I did not

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Speaker 3: do that, and I well, but you have a good,

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Speaker 3: good report with that. I would say, great report with that.

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Speaker 3: He actually chimed right in and goes I I agree, agree,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: There it is, you know, And I've gone through Listen,

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Speaker 3: I've been on record as being totally fine with by

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01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 3: the way two offensivelignment. In our first three picks. We

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: just don't take first round receivers. And I want to

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: get a stud And to me, that could be at

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: six or twenty four. It's probably more likely at six.

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Speaker 3: If like you love, if you think Carnell Taate's the

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Speaker 3: best striver in this class and he's on the board there, I.

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Speaker 2: Would want to add him to a yes period. The

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: end of the story.

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Speaker 3: So that I don't love the idea of them again,

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Speaker 3: we're pushing it down again. The only two receivers of the

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Speaker 3: Brown's taking the first round since they returned in nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety nine are Braylan Edwards and Corey Coleman.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's the list. That's the entirety of the list.

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Speaker 3: And we have just not, unfortunately, we have not proven

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Speaker 3: to be good at drafting receivers in later rounds. Yep,

1369
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: we just haven't. That's just, unfortunately an unfortunate reality of

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Speaker 3: the situation. We've tried many times. In the third round,

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Speaker 3: we got two guys that aren't even in the league anymore.

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Speaker 2: At least to my knowledge, that this would almost break us.

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: I think if this went this way and all of

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: a sudden, the Cincinnati Bengals got Downs at ten, Jordan

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Tyson goes fourteen to the Ravens, and then Denzel Boston

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: goes twenty one to the sim and then Caleb Downs

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01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: goes right ahead I'm sorry, Carnel Tate goes right ahead

1378
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: of us to the Giants. Yes, that would be that

1379
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: would be just like, come on, come on, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not cool. That would not be that is not cool, dude.

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: I think Reefs goes. He has Reefs going seven. That

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: surprises me? Does that surprise you?

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: I think r Vel is going to be very interesting

1384
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: over there because I think he's gonna I think Sonny

1385
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 2: is going to test off the charts, and I think

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Speaker 2: r Bell will test very I think he'll test well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll get to seven. I think the

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Speaker 2: most interesting prospect in this first round is going to

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: be Caleb Downs because I think as more and more

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: people watch the tape of him, and when more and

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: more people talk to him, you're gonna say, I think

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: that there will be a borderline consensus by the time

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: we leave Indie next week. I would not be surprised

1394
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: if there's a borderline consensus that the best player in

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: this draft, the surest thing in this draft is Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that the position he plays is

1397
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: not a premium position, So I think how he's drafted

1398
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: is going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's going to go as early

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 3: as people think, at least from the things that I've heard,

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 3: and it's because of his position, which at some point

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01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: you just get the best player.

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: In my opinion, and Aine was having a back and

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: forth with somebody about him and he's like, I think

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: he's the best player in it. I saw Breer having

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: some of those comments.

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Speaker 3: Like I'd have no problem, and I've said this for

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: I really would have absolutely no problem if the Browns

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: ended up taking if I personally, I like Caleb Down's

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01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 3: a great deal. I think he is excellent. I don't

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01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 3: think he would go to US at six. But if,

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: like Caleb Downs, kind of fell into the middle of

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: the first round somewhere, yeah, I wouldn't mind going and

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: getting him, Or if he fell to twenty four. I

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: think that's a no brain like sprint sprint up there.

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01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: You know it's funny. I'm on NFL dot com right now, yep.

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 3: And when you click on Daniel Jeremiah, they just have

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 3: his mock one point oh. That's like the lead headline.

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: They don't even have mock two point oh. Mock one

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01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 3: point zero had us taken David Bailey tech tech Edge

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 3: r vel Reese went second in his original k mock second,

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 3: So that makes that's typically when you see a shift

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Speaker 3: of that magnitude that that would mean that means something

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: to me. That's and we can ask him about that

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: when we're there, because obviously that'll be of interest for

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: our listeners. But again, you know, I'm about weapons and

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 3: scoring and all of that I think about. You know,

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: when I've been here in my tenure alone with the

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01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, we've had Joe Thomas who was huff probably

1430
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 3: the best left tackle ever, Joel Botonio who is made borderline.

1431
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 3: But like in consideration, Alex Mack pro bowler, All Pro,

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Speaker 3: Jack Conklin's been a first team All Pro whyat Teller

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 3: a three time pro bowler? You know, Johnny Greco was

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: excellent in his time here as well, Mitchell Schwartz was

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 3: excellent in his time here. If we had that quality

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: of offensive line in weaponry over this time period, and

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 3: that would include quarterback obviously, yeah, we're.

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 2: We're you're winning divisions, You're in the winning divisions.

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Speaker 3: We're winning is probably were winning super Bowls if we're

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Speaker 3: being yeah honestly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hall of Fame, like a true blue blood Hall

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: of Fame first ballot, and then four other guys who

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01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: are all pro guys. Yeah, you're winning massive things at

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: that point. Yes, So yeah, I agree with you.

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01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: So that's that that goes back to just where my

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: mind is. And that's why I think that's kind of

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 3: what why I think that's what it's got to be.

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: Well, we did this last week and we kind of

1449
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: outlined like the Seattle blueprint because that's much more attainable,

1450
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: quicker for us sure than the other one. Yep, because

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 2: we're picking six and everybody, the quarterbacks, all of it.

1452
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: Like the Seattle Blueprint, you have to have Jackson Smith

1453
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: and Jigba. Yes, like it doesn't work, but it does

1454
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: not work without the offensive player of the year in

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: the National Football League. You've got to have that weapon.

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01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 3: Correct.

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: Then you can lean on the defense, you can lean

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: on you know, the offensive line coming together in the

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: quarterback and the rest of it. You could, but you

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: gotta have one of them. You gotta have one guy

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01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: who everybody has to game plan for. And without it,

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: you're limited with what you can do. It's very difficult,

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: very very difficult. All right, we'll do a little thing,

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: not a thing up next. What do you got to

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Speaker 2: get an update?

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Speaker 5: I do the USA is on the board one nothing,

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Speaker 5: Let's go under five to play in the second pier.

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Speaker 2: Just what US Canada in the gold will be nuts

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Speaker 2: if and that's how it should go.

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Speaker 5: That's a little Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, that's a real treat.

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Speaker 3: I just one thing I want to just remind people

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Speaker 3: of is that in the season in which Joe Flacco

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 3: threw for more than three hundred yards and five straight

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Speaker 3: games that we went to the playoffs, that Amari was thriving.

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Speaker 3: The Djoku goes to a Pro Bowl because we're throwing

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: the ball so well. Our starting tackles were two of

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Speaker 3: the following three for the for this run, James Hudson,

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Speaker 3: Dewan Jones, and Jaron Christian.

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Speaker 2: The defense rests, or I guess in our case, the

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Speaker 2: prosecution rests. I mean, yeah, come on, come on, we'll

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Speaker 5: hot seat going into the twenty twenty six season? By

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Uh So.

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 5: This is a thing or not a thing?

1508
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 3: Okay?

1509
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 5: Number one the Jets head coach, Aaron Glenn. He's the

1510
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 5: number one one hot seat head coach going into twenty

1511
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 5: twenty six. Thing or not a thing?

1512
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a thing. He is definitely on the hot seat,

1513
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: I would say, Aaron Glenn, and then turned over his

1514
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: entire staff after last year, so he said everybody else

1515
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,879
Speaker 3: is the problem, but not me, and they were dreadful

1516
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: last year. Were the Jets three and fourteen? Their margin

1517
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: of defeat they were had a negative two hundred and

1518
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: three point differential, negative two oh three point differential, one

1519
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: of the worst in the league. So yeah, it's worse

1520
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: than the Titans. It might have been the worst in

1521
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: the league as a matter of fact as I look

1522
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: at it now. So yes, I think he is very

1523
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: much on the hot seat. Would not surprise me at

1524
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: all if this is it.

1525
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 5: And I'm I'm not looking to fire coaches, but the

1526
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 5: fact that he survived year one and literally replaced three

1527
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 5: quarters of his staff, yep, kind of shocked. He's coming

1528
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: back for year two, but he is a Jets legend,

1529
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 5: so yeah, that's how you get that second chance. But

1530
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 5: I don't know if they'll be a third if this

1531
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 5: coming year goes as poorly as last, and frankly, I'm

1532
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 5: not sure how it's going to get better given the

1533
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 5: quarterback situation. Yeah. Uh, The number two hottest coaching seat

1534
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 5: from Fox Sports NFL is Nick Sirianni of the Philadelphia Eagles.

1535
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,759
Speaker 5: Thing or not a thing.

1536
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 4: So.

1537
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: You got to say that it is a thing, right,

1538
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: I think because Nick Sirianni is in Philadelphia and Doug

1539
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:46,480
Speaker 3: Peterson was fired by the Eagles in twenty twenty one

1540
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: following a four and eleven ones finish. Now, Peterson and

1541
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles had been better than that, right prior, and

1542
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 3: Sirianni certainly has been better than that. But this is

1543
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, won the Super Bowl. Four years later

1544
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: he was gone. I do think Sirianni's on the hot

1545
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 3: seat just because it just there's something that felt a

1546
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 3: little bit off about what was going on there and

1547
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles. So that's what makes me just wonder

1548
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 3: a little bit. But if you look at Sirianni, since

1549
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 3: he's been the coach nine and eight, fourteen and three,

1550
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: eleven and six, fourteen and three, eleven and six, they've

1551
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: won the East three out of the last four years.

1552
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 3: When he looked at when Peterson was there, he went

1553
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: seven and nine, thirteen and three, won the Super Bowl

1554
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: nine and seven, nine and seven, then four eleven and one,

1555
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: and that got him camp. So I think he's on

1556
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: the hot seat if things don't go well. But if

1557
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: they win another double digit games, I would be pretty

1558
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 3: surprised if he got fired at the end of this year.

1559
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, two Super Bowl appearances. I think if things were

1560
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 5: to not look great this year, I don't. I still

1561
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 5: don't know if they would pull the trigger, But I

1562
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 5: don't know how long the leash would be.

1563
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 2: The follow up. I think if they win something like

1564
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: five and twelve, you'd be fired.

1565
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: Oh, I think that's totally in play, like if the

1566
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 5: wheels completely fell off. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.

1567
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1568
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 3: I think it's important for them to get their offense

1569
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: going again.

1570
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 5: I still don't. I will never understand what exactly went

1571
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 5: wrong there.

1572
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither.

1573
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. I mean it starts with Jalen Hurts

1574
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 5: and he's got to play a lot better. Thing or

1575
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 5: not a thing. Fox Sports NFL coaching Hot Seat Rankings

1576
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six. Number three is Todd Bowles Tampa

1577
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 5: Bay Buccaneers Thing or not a Thing.

1578
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 3: Eight and nine, nine and eight, ten and seven, eight

1579
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 3: and nine, one game over five hundred. If I think

1580
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: if I have that.

1581
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 5: Right, sounds right, sounds like it.

1582
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think absolutely. I think at some point it's

1583
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: like we either have to figure this out or we

1584
01:20:58,920 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: have to blow the whole thing up.

1585
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you choked down the stretch.

1586
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've been first or second in the

1587
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: division every year he's been there, just because the division

1588
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: has been so bad. They actually had a negative point

1589
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: differential this year when eight to nine. I do think

1590
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: that that they I think he should be on the

1591
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 3: hot seat. I think that, honestly, they should have considered,

1592
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: you know, getting rid of him and putting Liam Cohen

1593
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: in that seat. Even last year, coming off of his

1594
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: best season as a coach, I would have considered that.

1595
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: I really think that that was a mistake.

1596
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, nope, I agree with you on that, And now

1597
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 5: you're probably gonna have to do it without Mike Evans.

1598
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 5: So because all signs seem to point that he will

1599
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:46,480
Speaker 5: test the free agent.

1600
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: Water somewhere yep.

1601
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 5: Number four on the list on the hot seat rankings,

1602
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 5: Ave Canalis, does he Carolina?

1603
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 3: Does he have a like a rationale for this? There

1604
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: are any written words that are not that I'm not

1605
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 3: privy to.

1606
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 5: Stand by. I believe I have those written down.

1607
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 3: I just I don't think so.

1608
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: No.

1609
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 3: My answer is no, he is not on the hot seat.

1610
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 3: Not a thing. I wouldn't think so either, But made

1611
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: the playoffs. The offense, you saw Bryce a little rational,

1612
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: though Bryce Young come a little take a little bit

1613
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: of a step forward. McMillan looked good. So do I

1614
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: think that they're great? No, But I think that he's

1615
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 3: developing and you're seeing your young quarterback develop a little

1616
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: bit with him, and I would think that that has

1617
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: to be encouraging.

1618
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 5: So this is Ralph Vacchiano. His twenty twenty five season

1619
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 5: was a nauseating roller coaster ride. He went from the

1620
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 5: hot seat to Coach of the Year candidate, to the

1621
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 5: hot seat again, and then to the playoffs, where his

1622
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 5: team gave the Rams all they could handle. So it

1623
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 5: edited on a relative high, But is that sustainable? It

1624
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 5: better be. Considering Canalis enters year three working for an

1625
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 5: impulsive owner, There's not much room to slide backwards from

1626
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 5: an eight to nine season and a thirteen to twenty

1627
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 5: one overall record. It doesn't help that his primary job

1628
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 5: has been the development of quarterback Bryce Young, and the

1629
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 5: progress there has been inconsistent. I'm not sure I agree with.

1630
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: That me neither.

1631
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he's on the hot seat now. I

1632
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: think if the season goes off the rails everybody's on

1633
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: the hot seat. But I wouldn't put him on the

1634
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: hot seat right now. No, I don't think he's on

1635
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: the hot seat right now.

1636
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 5: Upwards, we go number five thing or not a thing,

1637
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 5: and we go to Northern Kentucky and Zach Taylor, the

1638
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 5: head coach of the Bengals.

1639
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: He's gotta be on the hot seat. He's got to be.

1640
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: I don't see how he's not. They haven't been to

1641
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 3: the playoffs in three years.

1642
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 5: When's his contract though, because that's what it comes down to, Like,

1643
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 5: I don't think you could put him on the hot seat.

1644
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 3: He's been there for seven years.

1645
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 5: Give back, yeah, but what But again, the Bengals are cheap.

1646
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 3: So my guess is he probably signs an extension after

1647
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, so one too. Maybe there's at most

1648
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: two years left on it. I think he's on the

1649
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: hot seat. Yes, I do, Yes, I do.

1650
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 5: He should be he one hundred. I mean it's malfeas

1651
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 5: it's what that organization has put around.

1652
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 3: Here, and then that's not all his fault, to be fair,

1653
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: But yes, he should be on the hot seat.

1654
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1655
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 5: I mean he did fire the defensive coordinator that went

1656
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 5: on to Indian head a little bit of.

1657
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: Success lul An Arumo. Yeah, but I think that was

1658
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 3: probably pressure from above, that's right.

1659
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

1660
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 5: Number six, we go to Indianapolis where we will be

1661
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 5: next week for the combine and Shane Stiching thing or

1662
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 5: not a thing?

1663
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: Nine and eight eight nine eight nine. No playoff appearances, Yeah,

1664
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 3: I think three years. Yeah, he's on the hot seat.

1665
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 5: Yes, I just I don't know about that because I

1666
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 5: don't know.

1667
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: What.

1668
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 5: I mean, Look what he did with Daniel Jones before

1669
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 5: Jones got hurt.

1670
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: I know, but he did get a hurt and then

1671
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: they were not very good after that. I think he's

1672
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: on I think he's on a warm seat. I'd call

1673
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: him a warm seat.

1674
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean he might be the sweet spot right there.

1675
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 5: Where he's currently ranked. Number seven is an interesting one

1676
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 5: given everything that's happened up in Minnesota here this offseason.

1677
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell are good friends.

1678
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: So if what has been reported is true, which is

1679
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: that Quaycy got fired even though O'Connell was the one

1680
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 3: who had the full say over the quarterback situation, if

1681
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: that is true, now he's on the hot seat. If

1682
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: that's not true, then I don't think he's on the

1683
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: hot seat.

1684
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: But if that's.

1685
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 3: True, and you you got your way, you won the

1686
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 3: power struggle, you need to deliver right now.

1687
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 5: So deliver with JJ McCarthy, Sam Darnold going and wing

1688
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl for Seattle was not good for anybody

1689
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 5: in that organization.

1690
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 3: Quaycy got fired, i'd and if the reports are true,

1691
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 3: you know, obviously Quacy could have done things better, that's clear.

1692
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 3: But if the reports are true that O'Connell was the

1693
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 3: one who actually handled and drove the entire quarterback situation,

1694
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 3: then to me, that puts him firmly on the hot seat.

1695
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: Ownership said, okay, we got your back now, but it's

1696
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: you better deliver or it's it's curtains.

1697
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 4: Yep.

1698
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 5: I would think that you would have to be. If

1699
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 5: you've already fired the GM. The head coach has got

1700
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 5: to put up or shut up, And especially if you

1701
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 5: have a star like Justin Jefferson and if he's not

1702
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 5: getting the ball again this year and starts to complain,

1703
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 5: I think at that point the owner has got to

1704
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 5: listen hard. Number eight on that on the list. Dan Quinn,

1705
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 5: the head coach at Washington, thing or not a thing.

1706
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he's on the hot seat at the moment.

1707
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: I think if things don't go well, I could see

1708
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: him being on the hot seat. But I don't think

1709
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: he's on the hot seat right now, because you know,

1710
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: you have your quarterback healthy, you go to the NFC

1711
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 3: Championship in his rookie year. In the second year, your

1712
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 3: quarterback is not healthy, and you go five and twelve.

1713
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: So I don't entering year three, I do not believe

1714
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: that he is on the hot seat yet.

1715
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 5: See, I think he could. I think he could be.

1716
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 5: I mean we talked about it on this show, like

1717
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 5: should they have made a move to get rid of

1718
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 5: him and go get John.

1719
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Harbaugh potentially, But to me, that's a way he's on

1720
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 3: a warm seat.

1721
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 2: At best, he's on a warm seat like.

1722
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 5: He ran he ran Cliff Kingsbury off.

1723
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Speaker 3: I think he's I think I think going into the scene,

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01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: they said, okay, let's see one more year with with

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01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels healthy and see where that lands us.

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: And that's what I think they're looking at. So I

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01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: don't think he's necessarily on the hot seat right now.

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01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 3: No takes us to number nine, which is this one's

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 3: completely insane. When was this written?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 5: This came out February eleventh.

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: How does he justify? What's his words for this one?

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur Green Bay Packers. Remember there was talk about,

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01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 5: like are the Packers going to part ways with him

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01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 5: after the seat and part of that was like they

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 5: held up and giving him a contract extension. He just

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01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 5: got a multi year contract.

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01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he just got it.

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01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: Give me.

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01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 5: I know I'm reading this article, but since when as

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01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 5: that mattered anywhere outside of Cincinnati. New team president ed

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 5: policy was unsure enough about Lafleur last year that he

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01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 5: made him twist until the end of the season. Part

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01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 5: of that is because the stakes are high in title

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01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 5: time and Lafloor's Packers teams haven't made a deep run

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 5: in five years. His seventy six forty and one record

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01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,959
Speaker 5: is stellar, and it's great that he's made the playoffs

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01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 5: six times in seven years, but he has one playoff

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01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 5: win since the twenty twenty one season and a three

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01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 5: to six postseason record overall. If the Packers slipped next

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01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 5: season or failed to get beyond the divisional round of

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01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 5: the playoffs, that contract extension might not be enough to

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 5: save him.

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01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: It's a multi year extension, it's guaranteed money. He's been

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01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: one of the winningest coaches in the league. If they

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01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: were going to get rid of him, they would trade

1757
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: him rather than they would try to trade him.

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01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 5: I would think so, especially because that group is you're

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01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 5: owned by the public. Yes, uh, final one. Brian Schottenheimer,

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01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys.

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 3: Somebody said that the new contract is not a prove

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01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 3: it deal. It is a real commitment long term. He

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01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 3: is not on the hot seat at all. Brian Schottenheimer.

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01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, I do think he's on the hot seat.

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 3: But one of the things that's actually pretty interesting is

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01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 3: that Jerry is not a quick trigger guy. You look

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01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 3: at at the coaches that have been there. So Jason

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01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: Garrett is there from twenty eleven to nineteen, McCarthy's there

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01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 3: from twenty to twenty four, Wade Phillips was there three

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01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: four years, Parcel was there one two three four years,

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01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Dave Campo three. Chan Gaily is the last coach that

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01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: was there for two years or fewer. The only one

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01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 3: that's ever been there for two years or fewer in

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01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 3: his in his tenure. So I don't think he's it's

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01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I feel like there's a lot of pressure

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01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 3: there but it does not feel to me like he is.

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01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 3: He is firmly on the hot seat right now.

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01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 5: Okay, in our final moments here on this first Friday

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01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 5: edition of the program from Iron, will our good friend

1780
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 5: please tell us all how to pronounce our new head

1781
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 5: coach's last name. And I hope Andrew Siciliano's listening.

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01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: Give me why would you air that kind of dirty laundry?

1783
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 3: Don't you have to go do a BPA with the man.

1784
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what.

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01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 3: It's Monkin like dunkin Donuts.

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01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Monkin, he knows that.

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01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 5: There's what's the crime going after our guy?

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01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 3: He must be saying Monkin like, no, we're saying he does.

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01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Then then I don't know. But it's Monkin like dunkin Donuts, Monkin,

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01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: the Monkin men, And there it is.

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01:30:58,960 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: That'll do it for than for us today. Thanks to

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01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 3: new Orlando Ledbetter's Gritsey bo back in studio. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back again tomorrow with more Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you

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