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Speaker 2: am again eron Torres here in La jaymart what's.

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Speaker 3: Up, man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing doing well A lot?

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Speaker 3: I just watched the video of the Tim Anderson knockout. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a little bit of a it

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Speaker 3: was a little bit of a kind of a wild

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Speaker 3: sort of it was almost a lucky shot, but it was.

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Speaker 3: Oh but man like Tim Anderson's lights went out on

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Speaker 3: that shot. Was not necessarily expecting it to be that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, violent. Usually a lot of the baseball

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Speaker 3: fights don't tend to be that way, but that was. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I need to watch that one in slow mo because

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Speaker 3: it just looked like Anderson didn't know where he was

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Speaker 3: when he got hit.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what busy night in combat sports. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: not just the base brawl. We will talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We have the sound Tim Anderson, as you said, got

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Speaker 2: slugged by Jose Ramirez, maybe an appropriate term for two

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Speaker 2: baseball players. Summer Slam is going on. You're gonna keep

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Speaker 2: us updated on that. From the World of Boxing, Jake

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Speaker 2: Paul and Nate Diaz. So busy night in combat sports,

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Speaker 2: But you want to talk combat How about what happened

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Speaker 2: in college sports this week? Jason?

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Speaker 3: So listen.

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Speaker 2: You know it's interesting, right, And I think you know

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Speaker 2: one thing, you and I and Pat do a great

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Speaker 2: job communicating throughout the week on what we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about and all that stuff. And I always wonder when

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Speaker 2: I'm putting together the show, you know, you helping me

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Speaker 2: and Pat whatever, are we talking about stuff that is relevant,

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Speaker 2: interesting and engaging for the audience. And why I bring

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Speaker 2: it up was it was literally two weeks ago today

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Speaker 2: that we spent I don't know if we led this show,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, but we spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: talking about the PAC twelve commissioners' comments at PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: Media Day, and I remember sitting there talking it out

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Speaker 2: with you, Jason, I said, I know that the average

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Speaker 2: fan doesn't care about TV contracts and how much money

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Speaker 2: a schools getting in this and that the other thing.

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Speaker 2: But I remember saying why this is relevant, Jason, Why

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Speaker 2: I feel the need that it's not just me, we

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Speaker 2: collectively come up with what the show is about. But

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Speaker 2: why it felt so important is because the PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: I thought, even two weeks ago, was in a more

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Speaker 2: perilous place than people thought because of the fact that

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Speaker 2: there was a TV contract that was holding the league

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Speaker 2: together for one more season. The reason this is the

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Speaker 2: last year that UCLA and USC are in the PAC

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Speaker 2: twelve is because the TV contract expires this coming June,

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Speaker 2: and there was nothing tying these schools together. And so

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because I said out there and

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Speaker 2: I said, is this interesting? Does it matter? Is this

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Speaker 2: something our audience cares about? But I think it's important.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important we discussed this because there is

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Speaker 2: nothing beyond a piece of paper holding this conference together

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Speaker 2: and it's only for another eleven months. I bring it

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Speaker 2: up to say, you don't need me to tell you that.

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Speaker 2: In the last seven days since we have come on air, Jason,

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Speaker 2: it's just sad. I mean, the PAC twelve is essentially

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Speaker 2: done as a power conference. Everybody knows by now, but

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Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington are headed to the Big Ten at

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Speaker 2: the end of this season start of next football season, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: of course there's four schools right now that are left

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Speaker 2: behind Stanford, Cal, Washington State, and Oregon State. Jason, there's

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Speaker 2: so many layers to this. Should mention, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Justin Hopkins, who covers Oregon for Scoop Duck, should be

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Speaker 2: joining us here in about fifteen minutes from now. You

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Speaker 2: take it wherever you want, Jason. But a surreal week

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Speaker 2: in college sports for the present and future of college sports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like, gosh, there really are so

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Speaker 3: many different ways to talk about this story. And luckily

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Speaker 3: you're the one that gets left at the altar. You're

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Speaker 3: when you saw originally, you know, Oregon and Washington were

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Speaker 3: not talking about this week. I'm talking about the first

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Speaker 3: Oregon has Nike attached to him. Washington has a bit

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Speaker 3: Pac twelve doesn't prove itself to those universities, what choice

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Speaker 3: do they have? And that's the first question that I'm

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Speaker 3: Oregon realized, as did Washington, hey man, this is the Titanic.

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Speaker 3: This is over. Like we're done here. And I even

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Speaker 3: was just like, well, the PAC twelve just died. And

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Speaker 3: just it's amazing to me how fast, yep, this got

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get it worked out. I said, well, you

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Speaker 3: It's over. I saw somebody I read an article and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'll tell you this. I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: incredibly disappointing for student athletes, fans, alumni, and staff of

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve who cherished the over one hundred year history, tradition,

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Speaker 2: on securing the best possible future for each of our

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Speaker 2: member institutions. Dated August fourth, twenty twenty three. We remain

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Speaker 2: focused on securing the best possible future for each of

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Speaker 2: that is the sign right there. It's not we are

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Speaker 2: going to work with our remaining schools to whatever. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing to salvage there, you know, first of all, and

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Speaker 2: we don't need to nerd out. But you know, all

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Speaker 2: the schools that you would potentially pursue, they have their

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Speaker 2: own TV contracts, they have their own whatever. But beyond that,

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Speaker 2: nobody is joining. What is It's not just a sinking ship.

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Speaker 2: It's sunk. It's at the bottom of the ocean, and

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Speaker 2: this is again there are a lot of layers to this,

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Speaker 2: but when I do think think about this, it's exactly

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Speaker 2: But it is also largely self inflicted. And I remember

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Speaker 2: talking to you about this last week as we kind

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Speaker 2: to go back to ten, twelve, fifteen years ago, whatever

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Speaker 2: it was, when the Pac twelve had now it was

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Speaker 2: it's largely self inflicted because this conference four years on

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Speaker 3: Jays, yeah, and the other day. And I said this

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Speaker 3: Washington State and Oregon State. Those are schools that I

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Speaker 3: like that where those schools could end up. But more

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Speaker 3: we can offer you this, Like, sure, they're gonna end

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Speaker 2: Well and really quickly. You know, Oregon State's coming off

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Speaker 2: Oregon State won ten games last year, and so you

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Speaker 2: Over the last couple of days, Oregon and Washington are

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Speaker 2: He is the lead writer scoop Duck dot com. He is,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best guy covering Oregon athletics. Justin

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Speaker 2: Hopkins is on the phone, Justin my man, how you

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good and joining a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: So are these normal Saturday preseason beers? Are these Big

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's probably more the celebration beers.

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Speaker 5: I'm just you know what, I'm really glad to put

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Speaker 2: So take us through the last you know, three four days. First,

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Speaker 2: After the the Arizona Arizona State Utah stuff started to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think that's completely fair to say.

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Speaker 3: Justin. I don't know if there's this simple way to

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Speaker 3: What do you think if you had to narrow it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to say that there's one would be hard,

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Speaker 5: that didn't work out. It's just they've made so many

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Speaker 5: streaming only option with Apple TV, which might have been great,

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Speaker 5: We don't really know, But I don't blame schools for

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Speaker 2: Justin Hopkins joining US owner and founder of scoop duck

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Speaker 2: I think I know the answer to. What percent, Like,

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Speaker 5: You know, I think Oregon fans and Washington fans are

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Speaker 5: You're secure, right, You're getting enough money. You're gonna get

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Speaker 5: There's so much great about the PAC twelve. I think

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Speaker 5: Would they like to go back? Unfortunately, no, because, as

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Speaker 5: It's going to be unique. And I know for me firstly,

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Speaker 5: Now there's a whole new, you know, conference of venues

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Speaker 3: They're excited about the venues, but things got a lot

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Speaker 3: I think that they didn't really have a choice in this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree. Like if it was me and

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Speaker 5: should have been presented, presenting to everybody's like, hey, if

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Speaker 5: you stay in the PAC twelve, you got a better pass,

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Speaker 5: you know, to the conference playoffs and and and you know,

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Speaker 5: I think the college football playoff. But you know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: I just you know, I think everybody was too afraid

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Speaker 5: to die that slow dying death, which is really what

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Speaker 5: it looked like was going to happen within the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me. Justin again, Justin Hopkins, owner and

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Speaker 2: founder of scoop duck dot com covering all things Oregon Athletics.

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Speaker 2: Is joining us talking about this big ten news of

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. You know, Jason just mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you know, the move and obviously stepping up in a

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Speaker 2: level of competition. Tell us about what Dan Lanning is doing, man,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. I follow you on Twitter, and

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Speaker 2: it feels like every weekend is a huge recruiting weekend

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Speaker 2: at Oregon. It feels like every day I see you

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Speaker 2: breaking news about commitments in whatever class. It feels like

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Speaker 2: Dan Lanning is really kind of I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he's taking it to another level because Mario Christabaal was

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Speaker 2: doing an incredible job, but it feels as though Dan

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Speaker 2: Lanning has really taken that Georgia recruiting blueprint and has

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Speaker 2: things rolling at organ right now.

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Speaker 5: It is at a different level. And when Mario Cristobal

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Speaker 5: was here, it was at a different level, you know,

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Speaker 5: and Dan Lanning has expanded upon that. So it's just

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Speaker 5: it's pretty tremendous to see the amount of blue chat

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Speaker 5: talent that Landing has been able to acquire in the

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Speaker 5: you know, basically under two years that he's been at Oregon.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, let's face it, you need the horses

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Speaker 5: to win the race, right I mean, Alabama and Georgia

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Speaker 5: Ohio State are continuously at the top because they're recruiting

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Speaker 5: blue chip classes that are ranked inside the top five

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Speaker 5: year after year. And you know, Oregon hasn't quite gotten

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Speaker 5: to that level where they're inside the top five yet,

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Speaker 5: but you're moving the needle to where you're inside the

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Speaker 5: top ten now. You know, obviously the next step is

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Speaker 5: getting it closer to inside that top five so that

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Speaker 5: you can remain competitive. But yeah, I mean, Dan Lanning

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Speaker 5: is going national. I think that the move to the

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Speaker 5: Big Ten also helps Oregon with that national recruiting approach

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Speaker 5: because if you're pulling kids from back east to Northeast, Midwest, whatever,

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Speaker 5: you know, now that you're going to be playing those

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Speaker 5: opponents out there, there's going to be opportunities for parents

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Speaker 5: and family to go see, you know, they're young men

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Speaker 5: play football in those stadiums with Oregon, you know, and

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Speaker 5: of course it's same for Washington. So I think that

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Speaker 5: this helps in recruiting. But if you go and look,

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Big Ten has two or three of

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Speaker 5: so it's gonna be very important for Orgon to remain competitive.

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Speaker 3: There, so because you know you're out there and you

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Speaker 3: know those communities, I know, Pullman, their economy was was

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Speaker 3: really butcherssed by those big time football weekends that now

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Speaker 3: aren't going to be the same. How do you feel

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Speaker 3: if you're Washington State or Oregon State specifically today, just

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Speaker 3: with everything that you lost with your with your bigger

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Speaker 3: brothers leaving for greener pastors.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can't feel good about it. And

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Speaker 5: that's unfortunate because those are great programs that nobody wants

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Speaker 5: to see go away. You know, playing up in the

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Speaker 5: pulouse is something pretty special. You know, Oregon State's kind

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Speaker 5: of been a giant killer here and there along the

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Speaker 5: way with big games against USC and Oregon and other

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Speaker 5: teams within the conference. So it's unfortunate, but their situations

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Speaker 5: look quite dire at the moment. Hopefully, you know, whatever

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Speaker 5: Hopkins or develops with the remaining pack schools and the

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Speaker 5: Pac twelve conferences, we knew it, you know, hopefully they

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Speaker 5: can do something there. But financially, you know, I know,

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Speaker 5: cal Oregon State, Washington State, this is a this is

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Speaker 5: a very very big blow to those those traditions, to

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Speaker 5: those programs, and it's going to be really interesting to

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Speaker 5: see what happens with them in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 2: He is Justin Hopkins, the owner and founder of scoop

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Speaker 2: duck dot com covering all things Oregon and there is

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Speaker 2: plenty on the field and off to discuss with the

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Speaker 2: Oregon Athletic Department right now. Make sure to follow him

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at j Hopkins SD. Justin, Man, it's Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: You only got a few of these left before the

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Speaker 2: season starts, so we appreciate you making a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy those beers.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk soon absolutely, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: That is Justin Hopkins again. Make sure to follow him

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at scoop well follow scoop Duck, but also

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Speaker 2: Jay Hopkins SD on Twitter. Come back discuss some of

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Speaker 2: what Justin said. A lot to react to with this

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Speaker 2: Oregon Washington story. But before we get there, first time

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Speaker 2: this evening news Destin Sega.

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Speaker 7: What's trending, Hello, gentlemen, and recapping what you've been talking

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Speaker 7: about for those who don't know the details of the story.

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Speaker 7: And it is seismic in the sport, not just college football,

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Speaker 7: but of course driven by college football. Oregon and Washington

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Speaker 7: are leaving the Pac twelve to go to the Big

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Speaker 7: Ten Conference a year from now. USC and UCLA are

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Speaker 7: also leaving in a year for the Big Ten, and

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Speaker 7: Colorado will leave for the Big Twelve. Oregon and Washington

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Speaker 7: are not getting full revenue shares until the current TV

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Speaker 7: deal finishes in twenty thirty, and still they choose to

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Speaker 7: leave what was.

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Speaker 8: Left of the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 7: The Big Ten will now have to reissue its football

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Speaker 7: schedules for twenty twenty four and twenty five, changing what

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Speaker 7: it announced in early June. Oregon and Washington each said

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Speaker 7: they hope to play against their in state rival in

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Speaker 7: as many sports as possible.

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Speaker 8: Against Oregon State and Washington State, we'll see.

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Speaker 7: At the Women's World Cup, in the round of sixteen,

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Speaker 7: the US plays Sweden at five am Eastern Time on

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Speaker 7: Fox TV. The winner will face Japan in the quarterfinal.

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Speaker 7: Japan beat Norway three to one. Spain eliminated Switzerland five

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Speaker 7: to one. Netherlands scored early and now leads one nothing

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Speaker 7: against South Africa and the thirty fourth minute on Fox TV.

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Speaker 7: This winner will face Spain in a quarterfinal. Guard Ricky

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Speaker 7: Rubio will not play for Spain at the upcoming basketball

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Speaker 7: World Cup, pausing his career citing mental health. Saints running

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Speaker 7: back Eno Benjamin is likely out for the year with

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Speaker 7: a ruptured achilles. The Broncos say quarterback Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 7: starters will play in the exhibition opener on Friday. To

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball, you mentioned the fight that occurred in

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Speaker 7: the White Sox at Guardians game. Tim Anderson, the shortstop,

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Speaker 7: jawing back and forth with the runner from Cleveland, Jose Ramirez.

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Speaker 7: Anderson threw down his glove, put ups his dukes to fight.

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Speaker 8: This is how it sounded.

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Speaker 3: They're fighting.

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Speaker 9: They're swinging down, Go Sanderson Downanderson can.

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Speaker 7: Always count on Tom Hamilton with the call on Cleveland radio,

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Speaker 7: and Tim Anderson knocked down with a punch. Both Ramirez

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Speaker 7: and Anderson kicked out of the game after this fight.

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Speaker 7: In the sixth inning, White Sox won the game on

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Speaker 7: the road, seven to four, and the losing pitcher, former

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Speaker 7: Mets and Dodgers pitcher Noah Cindergard for the Guardians, gave

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Speaker 7: up four home runs in his six innings overall, these

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Speaker 7: one in five this year ERA six point seven to five.

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Speaker 7: There are two late games on FS one right now.

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Speaker 7: The Dodgers are leading at San Diego three to one

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Speaker 7: in the bottom of the six. Mariners lead the Angels

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Speaker 7: at Anaheim two to one in the top of the six.

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Speaker 7: Everything else is final. Milwaukee has won in ten innings

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Speaker 7: over Pittsburgh three to two, while Cincinnati lost at home

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Speaker 7: seven to three to Washington. Minnesota at twelve one victory

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Speaker 7: over Arizona. Baltimore beat the Mets seven to three, and

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Speaker 7: today Tampa Bay loss that Detroit. It was Tigers four

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Speaker 7: to two over the Rays. Yankees beat Houston and Justin

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Speaker 7: Verlander three to one.

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Speaker 8: Back to you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Saga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 2: Er Tours, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: of course, the home to the University of Virginia. Jason,

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Speaker 2: I want to react to some of the stuff that

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Speaker 2: Justin said and kind of continue this conversation. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought you brought up the question that I wanted

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Speaker 2: to lead this segment with, which is what do you

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Speaker 2: expect from Oregon and Washington here as they transition to

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten? Because I actually thought what Justin said

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Speaker 2: that as this whole thing was unfolding. One to be clear,

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Speaker 2: don't blame anybody at all for making the decision to

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Speaker 2: leave stability. It's not just about money, it's about stability,

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Speaker 2: it's about whatever. But I bring it up because Justin

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Speaker 2: brought up the most interesting point. A year from now

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Speaker 2: we go to a twelve team college football playoff, which

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Speaker 2: at least for the first few years, will have six

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Speaker 2: automatic bids. Six conferences will get automatic bids. And I

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Speaker 2: thought Justin was right. That was the sell from the commissioner.

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Speaker 2: Hey take a little bit less money, but the goal

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Speaker 2: is to compete at the highest level. You will have

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Speaker 2: a better chance to do it here than anywhere else,

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Speaker 2: certainly in the Big Ten. And so I get why

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Speaker 2: Oregon did it again. We're obviously on in Eugene. I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to criticize the decision, but that pathway to

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Speaker 2: a twelve team playoff, even if the Big Ten gets

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Speaker 2: three bids to one automatic bid and two whatever's at larges.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a conference every year where you're competing

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Speaker 2: with Ohio State, with Michigan, with Penn State, with USC,

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Speaker 2: obviously Washington in any given year. I get why the

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Speaker 2: decision was made, but I do wonder from a competitive perspective,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be really hard to continue to have the

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Speaker 2: success on the field that you've had over the last

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Speaker 2: two or three decades at Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, that's right, and you were. I mean, USC

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Speaker 3: was top dog obviously in terms of being talked about

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Speaker 3: and being a storyline, but Oregon was right there. Oregon

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Speaker 3: and Washington were always oh Oregon and Washington plane. Okay,

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Speaker 3: well that's those are interesting teams to see anybody match

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Speaker 3: up with, and that doesn't necessarily change. But now you're

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Speaker 3: joining a conference with Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State. We

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Speaker 3: can just start there and we can continue to go

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Speaker 3: and you'll find more. The few things that I thought

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Speaker 3: about were again, Washington State, and Oregon State, which we

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Speaker 3: already mentioned, what is the future, because boy, the pathway

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Speaker 3: got much more difficult for an Oregon and for Washington specifically.

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Speaker 3: At least Oregon has a Nike tie in and they're

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Speaker 3: still going to be able to recruit very well. The

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Speaker 3: other one I thought of was, how do you feel

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Speaker 3: if you're Matt Ruhle right about now? How does think

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Speaker 3: of that? Yes, I mean Nebraska, Nebraska didn't need this,

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Speaker 3: I know they they sure as heck did not need this,

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Speaker 3: more difficult schedule as he's beginning his tenure, and maybe

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be the answer. It's not like he hasn't

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Speaker 3: been able to win at a high level at you know,

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Speaker 3: a good university amidst a solid football conference. But this

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Speaker 3: is a totally different animal, and it's a different animal

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Speaker 3: for Oregon and Washington, and of course at this point

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Speaker 3: college and these regional rivalries and everything are just completely

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Speaker 10: Like this is.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible just to actually stop and think about the

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Speaker 3: travel and just how college sports will never be the

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Speaker 3: same ever again, and we just kind of have to

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Speaker 3: to watch these games. Yep. We might say all these

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Speaker 3: different things and lament this being lost in that being lost,

651
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Speaker 3: we can't wait to watch these football games. We're gonna

652
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: be so excited to watch these games. And ultimately, the

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Speaker 3: university presidents know it, the conference presidents and the conference

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Speaker 3: officials know it. Everybody is in on it. They know

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Speaker 3: exactly what is to come. Whatever happens now is going

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Speaker 3: to be irrelevant once the football is kicked off.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we'll continue this conversation throughout the show. But

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Speaker 2: that is something that listen again from even Oregon Washington's perspective,

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Speaker 2: I get it, but I'll go back to the day

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Speaker 2: that the first rumor about Texas and Oklahoma going to

661
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Speaker 2: the SEC came out. I said, if you're Kentucky, if

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Speaker 2: you're South Carolina, if you're Mississippi State, why how it

663
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much money like, okay, great, you got

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Speaker 2: an extra couple zeros to your bottom line. It's making

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Speaker 2: it that much tougher to win. And so I asked

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Speaker 2: you about the Oregon Washington perspective. But to your point,

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Speaker 2: the Nebraska's that Iowa was I mean, And that's those

668
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: are the teams that have been good. Now imagine the Purdues,

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Speaker 2: which you know actually is coming off a pretty good

670
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Speaker 2: year but just lost their coach, you know, the Minnesota

671
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: like it just makes it that much tougher for everybody else.

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Speaker 2: And so again, I don't blame anybody for making the

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Speaker 2: decisions that they do. And I get the stability, I

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Speaker 2: get the money. But one, there's a lot of programs,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Oregon, Washington, Oklahoma, whoever, they're used to winning

676
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Speaker 2: at a really high level, and it's gonna be that

677
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Speaker 2: much harder going forward. But also those second and third

678
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Speaker 2: tier teams in the conferences that they're in, it's just

679
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Speaker 2: got even that much tougher to continue to climb up

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Speaker 2: the ladder. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Tireck dot Com studios. Coming up the event

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Speaker 2: of the night, Jason gives you the rundown on what

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Speaker 2: you need to know about something big in the world

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Speaker 2: of sports you might not be paying attention to. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Traty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Where's Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: the world of sports tonight. The intro music by Chris

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Speaker 2: kind of is a tell here because tonight is SummerSlam.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm far from a wrestling expert, but this thing is huge.

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Speaker 2: People love it, and Jason Martin, of course, worked for

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Speaker 2: years in the professional wrestling space. So Jason, for an

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Speaker 2: idiot like me that doesn't know much about this, I

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Speaker 2: know it's huge and I know people care. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to be the guy that makes fun of

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Speaker 2: pro wrestling or doesn't. I just don't know much about it.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what I need to know about tonight and

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Speaker 2: why tonight is such a big event.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's generally one of the two or three biggest

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Speaker 3: events of the year for WWE annually last year. If

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Speaker 3: you recall, I missed this specific show a year ago

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Speaker 3: because SummerSlam was here in Nashville and I was there

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Speaker 3: along with some of my colleagues at the time, and

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Speaker 3: we had a great time. But that show was not

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Speaker 3: anywhere near as hyped up as this one is. And

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Speaker 3: I think the real reason for that is because World

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Speaker 3: Wrestling entertainment right now is all time hot. They have

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Speaker 3: not been this consistently entertaining, and just the way that

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Speaker 3: they're drawing money right now, I mean they're selling out

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Speaker 3: buildings or coming darn close to selling out virtually every building,

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Speaker 3: and this was not a thing that was talked about

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Speaker 3: at all five years ago. There was definitely a downturn,

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Speaker 3: but this is the biggest they've been since the first

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Speaker 3: quarter of two thousand and one, and that was about

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Speaker 3: as how as it gets because that led into WrestleMania

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Speaker 3: seventeen in Houston, which may have vented with the Rock

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Speaker 3: and Stone colt Steve Austin, which was at the time

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Speaker 3: as big as it could possibly get. And actually on

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Speaker 3: that show, they made it an ill fated decision in

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Speaker 3: the main event to turn Steve Austin from being a

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Speaker 3: fan favorite character into a villain, and the business plummeted,

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Speaker 3: and they really they've been trying ever since to try

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Speaker 3: and recover some of that, and they kind of have

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Speaker 3: some of that life right now. They have many people

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Speaker 3: that are kind of box office attractions, and they've struck

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Speaker 3: gold with a couple of people from mainstream entertainment, one

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Speaker 3: of which I know. We've got Jake Paul against n

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Speaker 3: Diaz tonight. His brother, Logan Paul opened up SummerSlam tonight

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Speaker 3: against Ricochet and they tore the house down in a

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Speaker 3: seventeen minute one of the best opening matches in terms

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Speaker 3: of just pure entertainment and getting a crowd off their

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Speaker 3: rear ends that I can remember. I'm not gonna spoil

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Speaker 3: anything for anybody that hasn't been able to watch it,

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Speaker 3: And of course I had to flip it off two

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Speaker 3: hours in, and once our show was over, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go back and finish it. But and so I'm not

746
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Speaker 3: on social media, and I'm avoiding every spoiler known to mankind.

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Speaker 3: But Logan Paul. The reason I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 3: talk about Summer Slim here is because Logan Paul and

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Speaker 3: his brother just kind of get it in terms of

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Speaker 3: how to make it work, how to be popular, how

751
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: to like there was a time where it's like I

752
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: didn't understand why Paris Hilton was famous. I didn't understand

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Speaker 3: why some of these people were famous. They were famous

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Speaker 3: for being famous, but I never really understood where it

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00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: came from. These guys are hustlers and they know what

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Speaker 3: they're doing. And what's amazing about Logan Paul is every

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Speaker 3: report that I have seen, everything I have heard says

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Speaker 3: behind closed doors, behind the scenes, he is a total pro.

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Speaker 3: He's asking questions, he's totally humble. He knows it's not

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Speaker 3: his thing, but he wants to be really good at it.

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Speaker 3: And we know he's a great athlete, and he shows

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Speaker 3: like it's a he's a natural. It's kind of amazing, honestly,

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Speaker 3: Like you never would have seen him being this good.

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Speaker 3: But he's good at all of it. He's good at talking,

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Speaker 3: he's good at bringing people out of their seats and

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Speaker 3: putting him back down. He's good at cutting promos, he's

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Speaker 3: good at the facial side of the business, he's good

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Speaker 3: at body language, good at all of it. And then

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Speaker 3: in the ring, he's fantastic. So they got lucky with him,

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Speaker 3: and they got lucky with Bad Bunny, one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest music artists in the world. He came in as

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Speaker 3: a huge fan and he wanted to be good. He

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Speaker 3: didn't just show up to collect a check. He didn't

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Speaker 3: just show up to build his brand. He showed up

775
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Speaker 3: because he cared and he did a great job, and

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Speaker 3: so Wwe was able to do a lot with both

777
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Speaker 3: of those guys. And they've had a storyline running for

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Speaker 3: the better part of the last three years that is

779
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Speaker 3: as good as anything I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: And it's still going and I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: end tonight, but it's gonna be the main event of

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Speaker 3: the night with Roman Reigns and Jay Husso. But just

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Speaker 3: shy fifty thousand is what they quoted, which probably means

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Speaker 3: they put about forty three thousand in terms of tickets sold,

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Speaker 3: because it's usually somewhere in that neighborhood where they where

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Speaker 3: they kind of go, but they're in Detroit, Home of

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Speaker 3: the Lions. I'm still wondering if Dan Campbell is gonna

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Speaker 3: show up and bite somebody's knee caps before the end

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Speaker 3: of it. But it's a big time night and I

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Speaker 3: think Logan Paul deserves a lot of credit. You might

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Speaker 3: think he is man. Maybe he is, but behind closed

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Speaker 3: doors he's doing a lot of professional things.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say caught the Jake Paul documentary yesterday. They

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Speaker 2: are an impressive family when you get to know their story.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torres, Jason Martin up next, NFL

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our two Torres and Martin, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: a lot of college football. In hour one, If you

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Speaker 2: missed any of that, Scoop Ducks Justin Hopkins joined us

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Speaker 2: to discuss or again Washington Busy Hour. We will get

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Speaker 2: back to the Oregon Washington conversation, all the different tentacles

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Speaker 2: that come with all the conference realignment of the week

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Speaker 2: in college sports. But Jason, do you want to switch

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Speaker 2: gears to the NFL? We got NFL football. This week's

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Speaker 2: sort of I heard Colin cow heard during the break

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Speaker 2: talking a little bit about Zach Wilson. But the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame game was just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 2: Obviously the Jets and Browns. First of all, we ended

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Speaker 2: last week with the simple question, will you watch the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game? Did you catch any of the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game?

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Speaker 3: Jason? Be honest, like two minutes literally, I flipped over

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Speaker 3: and saw maybe two plays. Heard t Rico, heard collins

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Speaker 3: Worth said, man, I'm almost ready for this, and then

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Speaker 3: I rolled Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was basically the same thing. I was doing some

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Speaker 2: stuff around the house, headed out in the background. Didn't

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Speaker 2: feel the need to break out the pen and paper

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Speaker 2: and notepad and prepare, you know, notes for this segment

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Speaker 2: right here. But like you said, just here in Tarico,

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Speaker 2: here in collins Worth, it's good to be back. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: as the SEGA just told you, Hall of Fame ceremonies

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Speaker 2: were earlier today in Canton, Ohio, and that means that

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Speaker 2: football is unofficially here. Uh, actually, I guess it means

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Speaker 2: it's officially here. It's just you know, we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: any of the good players yet. Anyway, I do want

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Speaker 2: to switch not switch gears, but but but just dive

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Speaker 2: into some of the stuff that happened this week. And

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Speaker 2: it was interesting because there was some interesting quotes from

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Speaker 2: Frank Reich out of Carolina Panthers camp earlier today. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Frank Reich first year head coach, and of course the

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Speaker 2: first year quarterback there is Bryce Young, the number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick out of Alabama. UH just some some co

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Speaker 2: some commentary and some write ups about UH camp. Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young was a little bit frustrated some some miscues in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. Nothing that isn't uncommon this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Frank Reich addressed it a little bit after saying about

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young, he's really harder on himself more than anybody.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback, you've just got to be unflappable. And I

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Speaker 2: think we all know Bryce has that gene. Nothing really

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Speaker 2: changes his pulse. But he's the ultimate competitor. He's got

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Speaker 2: that drive to be great. So that's what you want.

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Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, Jason really quickly. Again,

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Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a quiet week in

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Speaker 2: terms of narratives and storylines in the NFL. What do

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Speaker 2: you think of Let's start with Bryce Young. There's obviously

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Speaker 2: three marquee rookie quarterbacks. I mean Will Levis to a

853
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Speaker 2: degree is, but I don't think anybody really expects them

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Speaker 2: to play meaningful snaps with the Titans. So let's start

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Speaker 2: with Bryce Young because because obviously a little frustration in

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Speaker 2: camp today. But Frank Wright calls him the ultimate competitor,

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Speaker 2: has that clutch gene. What are you expecting from the

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick this year?

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Speaker 3: It just depends on what's around him. I'm expecting him

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Speaker 3: to do some things that show why he went where

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Speaker 3: he went in the draft and why we feel the

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Speaker 3: way we feel about him in terms of what he

863
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: can be. But it's gonna be a work in progress.

864
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: There are gonna be times when he makes mistakes because

865
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: he's used to trying to make things happen and being

866
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: able to make those things happen. In the NFL, there's

867
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna be people that are I'd be waiting for him

868
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: to try to make those plays. And he does not

869
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: have all world skill talent around him, And as a

870
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: matter of fact, he has near the bottom of the

871
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: league kind of skill talent compared to what he's used to,

872
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: Especially if you kind of match that up with the

873
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: competition that he's used to. Although last year they didn't

874
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: have as much skill talent at Alabama, and he found

875
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: a way. I think that he is going to make

876
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: them better than they otherwise would be. He's gonna learn.

877
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some baptism by fire here. There's gonna

878
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: be some serious struggles along the way. But as long

879
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: as he can keep his head about him and him

880
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: getting frustrated because of you know, not being able to

881
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: get a playoff in time and things like that, I'm

882
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: not concerned about that. I'd be more concerned if he

883
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: wasn't frustrated. If those things are happening. If those things

884
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: are happening the week of August fifth, we're okay. Those

885
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: things are happening in the week of September fifth, now

886
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: we've got a problem. This story just kind of he cares,

887
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: he wants to win, He's gonna run into the same

888
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: adversity a lot of top picks do as quarterbacks in

889
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: the NFL. They're used to winning a lot of games

890
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: and having the best team on the field, and in

891
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: this case, neither one of those two things is likely

892
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: to happen in year one. He's got the right guy

893
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: around him, and Frank Reich somebody that ought to be

894
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: able to settle him down. And he's a competitor, and

895
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: so he's gonna have to keep himself in check just

896
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: a little bit. But I believe him Bryce Young. I

897
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: would have taken him number one. I said that from

898
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: the get go. I think he's got star making potential,

899
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: no question about it. But we're going to see a

900
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: lot of up and down in year one, mainly just

901
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: because the Panthers are not going to be that dynamic

902
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: on of offense.

903
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just listen. Obviously I can't speak for you,

904
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: but I have never been around him, but just hearing

905
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Nick Saban talk about him, hearing the NFL people that

906
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: were around him and the draft process talk about him,

907
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: and then observing as a fan of college football, we

908
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: talk so much college football in this time slot. A

909
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that Frank Reich said today is not

910
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: surprising to me at all. That he's a competitor. I mean, listen,

911
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: you know it sounds weird because he played at Alabama.

912
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: He willed them to a lot of victories last year

913
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: that I don't think the coaching staff really put him

914
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: in position to win. I don't know that they win

915
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: at Texas if they get B plus quarterback play as

916
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: opposed to A plus quarterback play from Bryce Young. Obviously

917
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: you go across those other games. I mean, even you

918
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: lose to Tennessee, you lose fifty two to forty nine,

919
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: you put up forty nine points and he ended up losing,

920
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: And it speaks to how talented Bryce Young is and

921
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: how much was put on his plate. And what I

922
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: think is interesting about Bryce Young is exactly what you

923
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: said is that most years at Alabama, the talent is

924
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: so overwhelming that it's hard to get a real gauge

925
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: on the quarterback position. I don't think that was the

926
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: case last year, where yes, Jamier Gibbs was a first

927
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: round pick, but the wide receiver group struggled, the O

928
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: line struggled, the run game really honestly struggled. Outside of

929
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs, who did a lot of his damage in

930
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: the past game. The one guy I think you can

931
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: indisputably say had no doubt about it, more talent and

932
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: pretty much every game that he played was the second

933
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: quarterback off the board in the draft, and that was CJ. Stroud.

934
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: Stroud of course playing with the Houston Texans. A lot

935
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: of the concerns that you said about Bryce Young Jason

936
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: honestly concerned me more about c J. Stroud is that

937
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: the best wide receiver room that he'll probably ever play

938
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: with was at Ohio State. I mean, you go from

939
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave and Jackson Smith and Jigba straight

940
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: to Marvin Harrison, who's going to be a top three

941
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: pick next year, and so the talent isn't going to

942
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: be around you. Let's be blunt. In most of c J.

943
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: Stroud's biggest games, he did not play his best. When

944
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I hear all the time Ohio State, the only team

945
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: that they played during the regular season that has comparable

946
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: talent is Michigan. He went on and too against Michigan.

947
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: Justin Hopkins just reference when Oregon went into the Horseshoe CJ.

948
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: Stroud's first year and beat them. And so I bring

949
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: it up because to his credit, he did play well

950
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: against Georgia in the semi final. But this was a

951
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: guy that for most of his career had the most

952
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: talent on the field, had the best wide receivers that

953
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: he may ever have, and I look at him and

954
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to be a bust but

955
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: defensive coach there. He doesn't have Frank Reich, a former

956
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, that is the guy I worry. Let me

957
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: put it this way, I worry about him more than

958
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I think he's got more of the physical

959
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: tools that maybe Bryce Young is lacking, at least Bryce

960
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Young with the stature. I just don't know if CJ.

961
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: Stroud has enough around him. And I don't know that

962
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: I saw enough at Ohio State for me to be

963
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: confident that he's going to be a successful NFLCB.

964
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know either. I feel like

965
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: Damico Ryans had to probably make this move. They had

966
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: to go get somebody. They have to try something, and CJ.

967
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: Stroud could be the answer. But the Texans aren't in

968
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: a very good spot. They don't have a ton of

969
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 3: talent that's going to be a massive work in progress

970
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: as well. The lucky thing I guess you could say

971
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: in both cases for Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud is

972
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: the divisions. A week, you've got a weak NFC South,

973
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: You've got a pretty weak AFC South. I mean, the

974
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 3: Titans are gonna be in the mix. I think Hopkins

975
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: is gonna be He's not gonna be the Randy Moss

976
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: or the Julio Jones signings of the past. He's somebody

977
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: that is gonna come in and I think still be

978
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: able to contribute in a big way. But they've got

979
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: they've got to determine their quarterback scenario and what they

980
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: want to be as an offensive football team.

981
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: The Colts.

982
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: This is gonna be just kind of a year. It's

983
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: gonna be a year to try and see how much

984
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: further Anthony Richardson will need to come, how much how

985
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: far can we bring him along. It feels like it's

986
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's division to lose, but I don't think they're in

987
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: some kind of commanding scenario. We need to see what

988
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: the next year it looks like.

989
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: I've heard some people make the argument that because of

990
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: the schedule, Jacksonville could be in position maybe down the

991
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: stretch to end up with the number one seed in

992
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: the first round. By So you're not buying that, Jason.

993
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying I need

994
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: to see more than a back half of a season

995
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: or ten games in a season. I guess it wouldn't

996
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: just be the back half because they had a couple

997
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: of impressive wins early. I need to see more than

998
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: last year to buy in. I believe in Doug Peterson,

999
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 3: and I've always believed in Trevor Lawrence. I just want

1000
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: to see it again. I won't be shocked if they

1001
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: come out of the gates and they're that good, or

1002
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: they're in a division that's weak enough that they're able

1003
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: to take advantage of it. They should do well. They should,

1004
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: and we saw what they did last year. But I

1005
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: don't look at Jacksonville, for example, Aaron the way I

1006
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: looked at Cincinnati after their Super Bowl appearance. I look

1007
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: at Jacksonville and I say, all right, that was a

1008
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: nice season. Now prove to me it wasn't a flute.

1009
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: You have what you need in place there for that

1010
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 3: to be the case. But I'm gonna need to see

1011
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: it before I'm putting actual money down on the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1012
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: I know what Tennessee can do because I've seen it

1013
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: with my own eyes, and I've seen how they have

1014
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 3: overperformed expectations. And Mike Vrabel finds a way when most

1015
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: coaches can't. He's had a knack for doing this his

1016
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: entire time in Nashville. So I still think they're going

1017
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: to be challenging. Jacksonville is just it just doesn't have

1018
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: the ring of like a championship team to me right now.

1019
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: They're gonna need to show me something this year to

1020
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 3: really get me on board really quickly.

1021
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: You mentioned Anthony Richardson a minute ago, what are your

1022
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: expectator like like not even just this year, because he,

1023
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: to me, is such a fascinating prospect. And I said

1024
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: this during the draft time, but I did the seven

1025
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: Stages of Anthony Richardson where I watched him in. First

1026
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: of all, we were on air the night against Utah

1027
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: where he looked like Cam Newton and people are comparing

1028
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: him to Cam Newton Vince Young. And then after that

1029
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: that was really kind of the high of his career.

1030
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: But a couple of things. One, First of all, anybody

1031
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: that was around him in the draft process that he

1032
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: was mature, he was about the right things, blah blah

1033
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, kind of the opposite of Will Levis, who,

1034
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: according to people who were around to maybe didn't present

1035
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: himself the best way possible. But also I will say

1036
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: and I said this around the time of the combine.

1037
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: Is I had all the questions about the accuracy and

1038
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: the experience and the this and the that. I will say,

1039
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: when you saw it at the combine in a T

1040
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: shirt without pads on, I get it. But I also

1041
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: got it when I saw him there, the vertical leap,

1042
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: the sprinting ability, the arm strength, and so this is

1043
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: one I just I don't know that I have a

1044
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: strong opinion on it. I know we in our business

1045
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: that's our job to come on these airwaves and believe

1046
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 2: in everything that. Like, I don't know how I feel

1047
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: about Anthony Richardson. I'm excited to watch. I'm intrigued. I

1048
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: don't want to do the cliche thing of thinking that

1049
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: it's going to take time. But when you're a guy

1050
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: that completes fifty eight fifty nine percent of his passes

1051
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: in his final college year, I think it's probably going

1052
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: to take time. I guess this is the one. I

1053
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: feel really good about Bryce Young, as long as he

1054
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: can stay healthy at five ten, one hundred and ninety

1055
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: pounds or whatever it is. I have more questions about c. J.

1056
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Stroud Bluntley. This is Anthony Richardson's the guy. I just

1057
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: don't know what to think about when I think about

1058
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: what his career, what his career is going to be,

1059
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: what it could be. We all know what it could be.

1060
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: What I actually expected to be that I'm not so sure.

1061
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: Well, look that's that's it. That is the take to have.

1062
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: That's the exact take I have. Anyone that has a

1063
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: different take needs to check themselves. The sky is the

1064
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 3: limit his potential. What he could be is unthinkably good.

1065
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: And what he is going to be, we got no

1066
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: idea he could be out of the league in two years.

1067
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: He could be the MVP in three. We just don't know.

1068
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to build around him, and they're gonna

1069
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: have to be patient with him. He has uh he's

1070
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: got some tools in the toolbox. There's no question about that.

1071
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: He's got the measurables. He's got a lot to like.

1072
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 10: Man.

1073
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: I can totally understand why you would take take that

1074
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Speaker 3: risk and give it a shot, especially if you're Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: and you're just tired of bringing in the next or

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Speaker 3: the next senior quarterback to have his final year with

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Speaker 3: you before you retire and exit the league. You gotta

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Speaker 3: change that, and they have. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: gonna work or not, but I hope it does, just

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Speaker 3: because it's gonna be special, special, special if he does

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Speaker 3: indeed become what some believed he was gonna be early

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Speaker 3: at Florida, even before he was in this past season

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Speaker 3: and just guys salivating over him and everything else. He's

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Speaker 3: got that kind of potential. I always want to see

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Speaker 3: athletes live up to that potential, because the more great

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Speaker 3: athletes we have, the better life is.

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Speaker 2: As a sports fan, zeroed out about it, and I

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Speaker 2: am with you, Anthony Richardson, I would argue, I'm not

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Speaker 2: just as intrigued as rookie quarterbacks I'm talking about as

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Speaker 2: anybody in the NFL. I'm as intrigued by him as

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Speaker 2: Coming up, Stay with the NFL. We got big takes

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Speaker 2: bold predictions and what you need to watch for that

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Speaker 2: Not sure if you heard. NFL's here, baby, Training camps

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00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: are open. Hall of Fame game was Thursday. Everybody else

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: is going to take the field in their season opener

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Speaker 2: here in the coming days. Uh you look at week one,

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00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: starting this coming Thursday. Let me look really quick. Yeah,

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00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: we got two games Thursday and then Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else plays. And so what I wanted to do, Jason, was,

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Speaker 2: rather than feel the need to like, oh, you know,

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: what's the like, I just want to bring in the

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Speaker 2: guys and I want to you know, uh, Pat obviously,

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Speaker 2: Producer Pat Chris Purfette de Saga. If you have anything

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Speaker 2: to chime in with, feel free and just talk about

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Speaker 2: like what what like, what has caught your attention? What

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: are you intrigued by? Give me one story that you

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 2: were intrigued by going into this this uh this, this fall.

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Speaker 2: I mean it could be something super obvious, it could

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Speaker 2: be something a little bit more low key. So I'll

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Speaker 2: get to mind momentarily, Jason, But why don't you go

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00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: ahead and start, uh, like, what just has your attention

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Speaker 2: going into this year?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the the five cent answer, because

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Speaker 3: it's the one everybody is going to say. Say, but

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Speaker 3: it's Aaron Rodgers and the Jets and what that's gonna be?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's to me, that's the most interesting thing

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00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: entering this season of a myriad of things that I

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Speaker 3: know we're gonna get some good responses from everybody as

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Speaker 3: this segment rolled along. But I think that's as good

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: a place to start as any. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: a two pronged story. I think it's Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 3: the Jets and it's Jordan Love and the Packers. It's

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Speaker 3: both of those storylines intertwined. What's gonna happen in Green

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Speaker 3: Bay and what's gonna happen with this Jets team? And

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00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: what are we gonna be talking about in December about

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Speaker 3: both of them? And have we rushed to judgment too

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Speaker 3: soon in one direction or another six or seven weeks

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Speaker 3: into the season or are we gonna know that fast?

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00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: I just think there's there's not been a guy that

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Speaker 3: has left and a situation that remains behind that both are.

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Speaker 3: So it's just so unknown what's gonna happen with the Jets,

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Speaker 3: and it's maybe even more unknown what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers. So I just I know that's

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Speaker 3: the easiest answer in the book. But I think it's

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Speaker 3: the easiest answer for a reason. It's just because it's

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Speaker 3: obvious and everybody is curious about it.

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Speaker 2: If I told you New York, what is more likely

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Speaker 2: to happen New York Jets make the Super Bowl or

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Speaker 2: Green Bay finishes in last place in the NFC North,

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Speaker 2: I think I know the answer.

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Speaker 1: Bowl.

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Speaker 2: What would you say?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: In other words, the super extreme of Aaron Rodgers being

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Speaker 2: maybe even better than we expect, and the super extreme

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Speaker 2: of Jordan Love maybe being even worse.

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Speaker 3: Than we expect I would say the now, what was

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Speaker 3: the okay?

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Speaker 2: So I make I think so when the AFC would

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Speaker 2: think it's more.

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Speaker 3: Likely that the Jets would make the super Bowl because

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Speaker 3: I just don't see the Packers, even if Jordan Love

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Speaker 3: is not good being the Bears.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a function of just not believing in

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Speaker 3: Chicago yet. I know they were a little bit better

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Speaker 3: and I do like Justine, but I just don't see

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Speaker 3: a universe where the Packers are dead last, even though

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Speaker 3: I don't believe they're going to win the division either.

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Speaker 2: Perfet really quick, you're the NFC North guru. Before we

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Speaker 2: get to your kind of thing that you're intrigued by?

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Speaker 3: What so for?

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Speaker 2: People don't I think everybody knows, but Chris hosts a

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Speaker 2: very popular Detroit Lions podcast. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: this division coming in? And specifically, as Jason said, the

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love situation in Green Bay.

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Speaker 11: It's a bit of a mess right now, and to

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Speaker 11: be honest, it's going to be a very opportunistic one.

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Speaker 11: I think there's the reason why a lot of people

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Speaker 11: are penciling in the Lions for division title isn't just

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Speaker 11: because of the positivity, but because of all these massive

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Speaker 11: questions for the other teams, because yes, I get it.

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Speaker 11: The Vikings won twelve games last year. They lost a

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Speaker 11: lot of their defense, and I really don't think they've

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Speaker 11: improved much, and we walked away from them last year

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Speaker 11: looking at them as a paper tiger. For the Packers themselves,

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Speaker 11: they have a good team, but the questions, I think

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Speaker 11: the questions are going to be hampered about. Is Jordan

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Speaker 11: Love a good quarterback? I think they still have some

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Speaker 11: good peace on them, but it's also been a minute

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Speaker 11: since I think, you know, Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon

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Speaker 11: kind of had down years, and the Bears are just

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Speaker 11: in a complete rebuild mode. I think the reason why

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Speaker 11: people have gone to the Lions has been because they're

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Speaker 11: the stable, They're they're they're on the they seem to

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Speaker 11: be the only team on an upward trajectory right now.

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Speaker 11: So really quick, Chris, what what is the most intriguing

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Speaker 11: thing to you going into these I'm gonna I'm going

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Speaker 11: to go to another division. I'm going to go to

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Speaker 11: the AFC North because I think this division, if you

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Speaker 11: would ask me a month ago, I probably shrug and

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Speaker 11: say this is the Bengals to lose. But now we've got,

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Speaker 11: you know, the concerns about Joe Burrow, which I think

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Speaker 11: are going to be minor, but this is a team

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Speaker 11: that really had to catch fire last year. You have

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Speaker 11: the Steelers who have Kenny Pickett, and I think a

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Speaker 11: lot of Steelers fans would say he's already the truth,

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Speaker 11: but I would say I probably still need to see it.

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Speaker 11: The Browns have all sorts of questions, all sorts of questions.

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Speaker 11: We wait to see what Deshaun Watson is for them.

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Speaker 11: But I just want to read you something out of

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Speaker 11: one of my friends, Kyle Barber, who covers the Ravens.

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Speaker 11: He was talking about this today that he was at

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Speaker 11: Ravens practice. Full results there on seven on seven drills,

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Speaker 11: nine interceptions, six fall starts for the offense. Four of

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Speaker 11: those interceptions, in case you're curious, are by Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 11: He got picked off four times, two of them in

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Speaker 11: rapid succession to Marcus Williams. I think that as much

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Speaker 11: as we kind of take the Ravens for granted that

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Speaker 11: they're going to be good, like, there's real questions about

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Speaker 11: Lamar Jackson, and we've kind of thrown them under the

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Speaker 11: weight because a lot of people don't want to deal

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Speaker 11: with the criticism of Lamar Jackson right now. This is

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Speaker 11: a division that has so many questions.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me jump in on that, because

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Speaker 2: I'll say this about Lamar is that when I when

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Speaker 2: I look at Lamar, okay and tell me, guys, tell

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I'll get to you first, Jason,

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Speaker 2: then maybe get back to perfet. So like Lamar, listen,

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Speaker 2: shot up like a rocket. It was awesome, thirty second pick.

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01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: Nobody believes in me, nobody cares work hard or whatever.

1238
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. You win the MVP, then you

1239
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Speaker 2: don't win in the playoffs, then you get over that

1240
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: hump in the playoffs. And I feel like it has

1241
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Speaker 2: been a mostly feel good story right up until this

1242
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Speaker 2: contract situation.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I am at the point now where like Lamar, it's

1245
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Speaker 2: time to deliver. Okay, you're a fifty million dollars a

1246
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Speaker 2: year quarterback. Now, good for you. You deserve it. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to pick apart salaries. It's the salary

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Speaker 2: structure that we've decided for quarterbacks. I have no problem

1249
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Speaker 2: with it, but I'm kind of passed and I still

1250
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Speaker 2: see this whole like whenever a quarterbacks tears rankings comes

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Speaker 2: out or a top one hundred, this it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Lamar's being so disrespected, and it's like, listen, guy is

1253
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Speaker 2: a fifty million dollar year quarterback right now he is

1254
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Speaker 2: not passing like it, not passing like it, struggled to

1255
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Speaker 2: say healthy one career playoff win to this point in

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Speaker 2: his career, not saying he can't get there, not saying

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Speaker 2: that everybody has to be Mahomes. I'm just over this

1258
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: concept that he's somehow being discredited or mischief jug or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You're one of the highest paid dudes in the league.

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Speaker 2: Go deliver. I don't know if this do you want

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Speaker 2: to go?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 11: I just want to say the The other thing to

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Speaker 11: add to this, too, is the big project of the Ravens.

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Speaker 11: This year has all been about We're going to put

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Speaker 11: weapons around Lamar Jackson. We're going to make him comfortable.

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Speaker 11: We're going to scheme new offense that is going to

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Speaker 11: make him comfortable throwing. And this is one of your

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Speaker 11: final practices before the preseason. He's throwing four picks.

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Speaker 2: Not good. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I looked it up.

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Speaker 7: His MVP year he had thirty six touchdown passes six

1273
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Speaker 7: interceptions the last two years combined. It's not thirty six touchdowns,

1274
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Speaker 7: it's thirty three and twenty interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think to Profet's point, like it's it's okay

1276
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: to criticize the guy. It's okay to criticize the guy.

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Speaker 2: He is being paid like one of the best players

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Speaker 2: in the league, and it is time to deliver. It's

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: time to stay healthy, and it's time to deliver in

1280
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Speaker 2: the postseason when it matters. Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torres

1281
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios,

1282
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: will come back do some more bold predictions, hot takes,

1283
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: unique stories, whatever. Before we do, though news test to saga,

1284
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Speaker 2: what's what is Trenty Mine front?

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Speaker 7: Hello once again? And by the way, that Jets pick,

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Speaker 7: isn't that the curious thing for most? I mean, we could,

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Speaker 7: I would say, so, we can all say that, But yeah,

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Speaker 7: I will say that that early season schedule is so difficult.

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Speaker 7: The Jets could play well and not have a winning

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Speaker 7: record by the time they get to the bye week

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Speaker 7: in mid October. They got to play Kansas City and

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Speaker 7: Buffalo and Dallas and Philadelphia standing by curious to see

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Speaker 7: As for what's going on on Fox TV right now, well,

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Speaker 7: what's coming up is USA Sweden five am Eastern time

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Speaker 7: on Fox A the Women's World Cup Round of sixteen.

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Speaker 7: Right now, Netherlands has just taken a two to nothing

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Speaker 7: lead over South Africa. They're about seventy minutes in. While

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Speaker 7: the winner of the US Sweden game will face Japan

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Speaker 7: in the quarter finals. Winners of this Netherlands contest will

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Speaker 7: face Spain in a quarter final. Spain eliminated Switzerland five

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Speaker 7: to one, out shooting him twenty six to two. Japan

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Speaker 7: won its game three to one over Norway. Saints running

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Speaker 7: back you know benj is likely out for the year

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Speaker 7: with the ruptured achilles. The Broncos a quarterback Russell Wilson

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Speaker 7: and the starters will play in the exhibition opener Friday.

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Speaker 7: The Falcons expect defensive back Jeff Okuda to return early

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Speaker 7: in the regular season after his ankle injury, and the

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Speaker 7: colt sign running back Kenyon Drake.

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Speaker 2: There are two late.

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Speaker 7: Games in Major League Baseball on FS one. The Padres

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Speaker 7: have taken the lead eight three over the Dodgers, its

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Speaker 7: top of the ninth now. San Diego scored seven times

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Speaker 7: in the bottom of the eighth for the lead. Mariners

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Speaker 7: now lead the Angels three to one in the top

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Speaker 7: of the ninth everything else final. Milwaukee a ten inning

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Speaker 7: winner over Pittsburgh three to two, getting a run on

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Speaker 7: the bottom of the ninth and one in the tenth.

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Speaker 7: The Brewers are first in the NL Central, now a

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Speaker 7: game and a half over the Reds, and the Cubs

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Speaker 7: are just two and a half back in the division race.

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Speaker 7: Chicago Cubs were eight six winners against Atlanta, while Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: lost its fifth straight game. Washington won at Cincinnati seven

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Speaker 7: to three. Toronto and Baltimore with wins Detroit and the Yankees,

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Speaker 7: who beat Justin Burlander at Houston's one, Texas one at

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Speaker 7: fifth in a row nine to eight over Miami. Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: ended the Royal seven game winning streak. Nine to six

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Speaker 7: victories for Oakland and Saint Louis, Minnesota twelve to one

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Speaker 7: over Arizona. Diamondbacks have lost five straight and the White

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Speaker 7: Sox won seven to four at Cleveland. The lost in

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Speaker 7: Noah Cindergard, who allowed four homers in six innings. Notable,

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Speaker 7: there was a fight in the sixth inning at Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: Jose Ramirez knocked down White Sox short stuff Tim Anderson

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Speaker 7: with a punch.

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Speaker 8: Both were kicked out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. Steve Saga, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Air, Torris, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: a live from the Tireck dot Com studios. A little

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Speaker 2: bit of a slower week from a news perspective in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. So what we're doing is going around just

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Speaker 2: talking about the single story that is most intriguing to us.

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Speaker 2: Pat the floor is yours producer. Pat is a big

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Speaker 2: Seahawks fan, and I think I know where you're going.

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Speaker 10: With this, pet Geo wonder with an interesting I'm a

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Speaker 10: Seahawks fan and you know what, guys, we are gonna

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Speaker 10: go to the Seahawks. So as everyone one's kind of known,

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Speaker 10: like with the draft and just the offseason, Seattle's made, like,

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Speaker 10: you know, some pretty good moves here and there, and

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Speaker 10: then they you know, totally rehuled there with their draft picks,

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Speaker 10: getting Witherspoon, Jackson Smith and Jigba and a sort of

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Speaker 10: all other guys. So a big storyline I got for

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Speaker 10: you guys right now is literally within this last like week,

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Speaker 10: week and a half or so, both of the running

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Speaker 10: backs being Kenny Walker, second year player, and rookie Zach

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 10: Sharboney both sustained you know, injuries. One was a shoulder

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Speaker 10: for Sharbonnaye, who I believe is back at practice but

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Speaker 10: still with a badge sore, beat up shoulder. And then

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Speaker 10: Kenny Walker hurt is growing as we know for running backs,

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Speaker 10: you know that's gonna you know, linger for a while.

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Speaker 10: So they're hurt, and you know they're just they're trying to,

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Speaker 10: you know, stock up on running backs. They're a little

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Speaker 10: down there. And we do have another rookie from the

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Speaker 10: Georgia guy, Kenny McIntosh. So that's an interesting thing of

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Speaker 10: what the offense is gonna look like, you know, like

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Speaker 10: are we gonna sustain like a new you know.

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Speaker 2: Let me jump in here, pat because I think they're

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Speaker 2: very interesting from the perspective of it feels like everything

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: kind of sort of broke right last year, right like

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Speaker 2: right the Denver win was I hate said it was

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Speaker 2: a little bit flukey to open the season. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have the rams are significantly worse than you're expecting.

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Speaker 2: You get some breaks along the way. Gino's a little

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Speaker 2: bit better than expected. I guess my question is, I

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: know the Division's not great. Arizona's going to be a mess.

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Speaker 2: The Rams we may talk about later on in this

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Speaker 2: segment are gonna be a mess. It just feels like

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Speaker 2: they kind of got a lot of breaks last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it's sustainable two years in a

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Speaker 2: row with Gino Smith's quarterback. And I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because obviously the injuries so early to the run game

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Speaker 2: aren't going to help.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Like where I was going with is this whole

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01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 10: entire offense is going to look so super just young

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Speaker 10: and not quite realized, even with a healthy Walker and Sharpennay.

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Speaker 10: And not to mention the fact that uh Dwayne Eskridge

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Speaker 10: as serving a six games in which does open the

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Speaker 10: door for Jackson Smith and Jig but to probably take

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Speaker 10: like the third string or you know, the slot spot.

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Speaker 10: But either way, as you see it, with Gino under

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Speaker 10: the helm, this offense whiles still marginally kind of the same.

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Speaker 10: It's still way super young and could be a little green,

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Speaker 10: a little raw, like I don't know, you know, like

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Speaker 10: you said, everything broke right from last year, there might

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Speaker 10: be a lot of growing paints this year.

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Speaker 2: Jmart Real quickly got any thoughts on did you think Seattle.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a lot of stuff broke right for

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Speaker 2: him last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely have that feel of them duplicating what

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Speaker 3: they did last year. Is not something that I would

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Speaker 3: go into the season feeling particularly good about, because, like

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Speaker 3: you said, they stayed healthier than a lot of teams did.

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Speaker 3: They got I mean, we talked about what Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: gave the Giants and how I in my opinion, that's

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Speaker 3: the best year ever. Going to see Daniel Jones play

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Speaker 3: is last year. I don't think he's taking another step

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Speaker 3: in that direction. Nobody saw Geno doing that. They just

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Speaker 3: didn't and now he's not going to catch anybody off guard.

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Speaker 3: I do think they're going to be decent. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's no reason to think they're going to fall off

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: a cliff, but to maintain what they did last year,

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Speaker 3: I'm just not so sure about that. That division has

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: a lot of I'm not so sure about that. So

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Speaker 3: though that's the one thing about it like I feel

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Speaker 3: good about San Francisco, even though I want to see

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Speaker 3: the quarterback thing in year two. I want to see

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Speaker 3: what they're doing there, but I like everything else that

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Speaker 3: they've got there. Arizona's a complete dumpster fire and the

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Speaker 3: Rams I got no idea, absolutely no idea. So it's

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Speaker 3: still possible they end up in the playoffs, no question

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Speaker 3: about that, but them being what they were last year,

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Speaker 3: I would be a bit skeptical on that.

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Speaker 2: To Sega really quick, what do you got as what

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Speaker 2: you're kind of keeping an eye.

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Speaker 7: On running backs and not just bjon Robinson. Does he

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Speaker 7: step on an NFL field and immediately a top five

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Speaker 7: to ten running back in the league. But after the

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Speaker 7: narrative of this offseason on running backs, how do they

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 7: respond the field in games? Is it the same Austin Eckler?

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Speaker 7: What's Jonathan Taylor's season, Saquon Barkley, what's Josh Jacob's season

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Speaker 7: gonna be?

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Speaker 8: These are questions.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree. It's just a fascinating time for that position.

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Speaker 2: And we go back. You know, we were on air

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Speaker 2: right as that Jonathan Taylor news was breaking last week,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it felt like to me like he

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Speaker 2: kind of saw the writing on the wall from other

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Speaker 2: guys and he's like, I'm not gonna find myself in

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Speaker 2: the same position as Saquon Barkley, But you got to

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Speaker 2: produce to get that contract. Really quickly. I'll say this

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Speaker 2: from my perspective, Jason, I'm curious for yours. I've said

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Speaker 2: this for a few months now, and I truly believe it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think, first of all, I don't think the

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Speaker 2: RAMS is gonna be good. That's not like a new

1444
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 2: crazy thought coming off a five and twelve year How

1445
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 2: many more times can Sean McVay threaten to retire Like

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: this feels like kind of you know what, or get

1447
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: off the pot, and it's like you have a second

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: straight down year and I think they're gonna be I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna be good. And I get you know,

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: there was a lot of injuries last year, but they

1451
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: are so top heavy. They rely on elite play from Dafford,

1452
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 2: from Cup, from Aaron Donald. Cup's a little bit banged

1453
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: up right now. Stafford's got the elbow thing. I think

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: if they go in the tank again, I think this

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01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: might be the last year for Sean McVay there. And

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm totally wrong, but you know,

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Speaker 2: his brand right now is still super Bowl. It's almost

1458
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: like what we talked about with Belichick last week, right

1459
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: is like there's only a certain number of years where

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Speaker 2: you keep losing without Tom Brady, where we start saying, okay,

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Speaker 2: it was Tom Brady. I don't think we're there with

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay yet. They obviously had the Super Bowl run

1463
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: pre Matt Stafford. But if you want to go into

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Speaker 2: broadcasting and you want to be a twenty million dollar

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: a year guy and you want to sell, well, it's

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Speaker 2: because I'm a super Bowl winning coach, Like you can't

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01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: keep having these five, six, four, two, seven win seasons whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a you know what, or

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: get off the pop moment for him or.

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Speaker 10: Else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a nice backup plan. It is a

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Speaker 3: good backup plan. So, by the way, real quick before

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Speaker 3: we get to break, and maybe this is one that

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01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: we can go back and talk about. But same building,

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Speaker 3: different team.

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Speaker 2: Oh brand, I'll tell you what we were on it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that we were on air during that meltdown.

1478
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: We open up the phone lines and the phone lines

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: were buzzing. So, uh, we will come back. We will

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Speaker 2: talk about the man, the myth, the legend. I call

1481
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,480
Speaker 2: him coach spreadsheet. That is Brandon Staley loves that spreadsheet.

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: Obviously a new offensive coordinator with Kellen Moore, Justin Herbert

1483
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: with the new contract. You talk about an intriguing team

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 2: in an intriguing division and an intriguing year. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: the Charges next. Fox Sports Radio Welcome back, everybody, Fox

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Speaker 2: the break, we were kind of going through talking about

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Speaker 2: all of the things that we are intrigued by coming

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Speaker 2: into the seat, and I mentioned the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 2: I'm selling any Rams stock that's left. But Jason brought

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Speaker 2: up the team that they share the building with there

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Speaker 2: at Sofi Stadium. That is, of course, the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 2: The last time we saw the Los Angeles Chargers was

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: a game in which you and I were on air. Jason,

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: Chargers had a nice brisk twenty seven to nothing lead

1501
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: right before halftime. Jacksonville scores to go into halftime to

1502
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: cut it to twenty seven to seven. It was game

1503
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: on from there as the Jacksonville Jaguars comeback and win

1504
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 2: that game thirty one to thirty. You and I speculated

1505
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: at the time with Brandon Staley even survived that game.

1506
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: He obviously did, but a lot of pressure on him

1507
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 2: coming into this year. Obviously a little bit of a

1508
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: nice kind of thing bounced their way. Kellen Moore essentially

1509
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: was forced out in Dallas. He ends up with the Chargers,

1510
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: so leant Ami, Jason new Oc, Justin Herbert just got

1511
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: paid about charges going into this year.

1512
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, but this is the year where they

1513
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: better actually have me thinking about them at the end

1514
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: of it, because we both kind of said that night,

1515
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: if it's us, Staley is out of there, yep. And

1516
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: they've now paid Justin Herbert. And they did not pay

1517
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert to be the talk of the Athletic Football

1518
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: Show for the next four months and then completely irrelevant

1519
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: once we get to the playoffs. They did not pay

1520
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: him to be, you know, talked about on the Sunday

1521
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: morning shows. They did not talk. They did not pay

1522
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: him for him to be talked about by us. And

1523
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,799
Speaker 3: then they're out in the wildcard round, or they're completely

1524
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: out and they're not any good, or they're really inconsistent

1525
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: or whatever. You paid him because you want him to

1526
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 3: be Joe Burrow, because you want him to be Josh Allen,

1527
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,919
Speaker 3: because you want him to have those kind of successes.

1528
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 3: And Allen still got a lot to prove. Burrow has

1529
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: gone further than all of these guys at this point,

1530
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: but eventually it's got to start sticking around there. Eventually

1531
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 3: they have to start winning games that actually matter, like

1532
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert just as much as everybody else does. But

1533
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 3: if it doesn't happen this year, I'm gonna say, you

1534
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: just wasted a year the guy's career by bringing back

1535
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: a head coach that wasn't gonna make him better. And that,

1536
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: to me is what is riding this season on the Chargers.

1537
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 3: I think that Staley has a lot of pressure on him.

1538
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: He's lucky he plays for an organization that doesn't really

1539
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: pay big time money and didn't go and search out

1540
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: for the best possible option out there. Maybe he's going

1541
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 3: right exactly. I would say, you know, maybe at the

1542
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: end of the year, he's gonna make us all look

1543
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 3: like idiots that have been kind of critical of him.

1544
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 3: But that's all I've had, that's all I can be

1545
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: right now, is critical of him, because he's done the

1546
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: things that make you critical of him. He's made criticism

1547
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: viable about him. And you look at them and the

1548
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 3: money that they have committed and the fact that they

1549
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: clearly do have their franchise quarterback, and no one is

1550
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: denying that he deserves that money. But now he's got

1551
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: to go earn it, and he cannot have to. He

1552
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: cannot go on the field with his hands tied behind

1553
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 3: his back because Barney Fife's on the sidelines, like we've

1554
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: got to see more this season from the Chargers or

1555
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: Staley is the one that's going to be left holding

1556
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: the bag at the end of this, and a lot

1557
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 3: of us are just gonna say, yeah, this could have

1558
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: been foreseen twelve months ago.

1559
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: It's just it's an intriguing spot to me and I listen,

1560
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: I I you know, I hope I'm wrong. I don't

1561
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: root against people. I agree, totally agree, that's a very

1562
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 2: important point. I want to see him succeed and make

1563
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: me look like a fool. Totally agree, yes, But with

1564
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: that said, I do not trust him at all, and

1565
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: my thought on him is and I said this all

1566
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: last year, So anybody who listens to us normally, this

1567
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: isn't a new take, you know. Listen, I said from

1568
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: the beginning, if you're gonna be the analytics guy, be

1569
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: the analytics guy. And I felt like year one it

1570
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: was by the book whatever, we all saw it with

1571
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 2: our own two eyes. Then that Week seventeen thing happens,

1572
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: or I guess it's week eighteen technically, or I can't

1573
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: even remember if that was a seventeen or eighteen whatever,

1574
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: and I bring it up because they lose to the

1575
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 2: Raiders and the fashion that they did, all those big questions,

1576
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: all those questionable calls on a Sunday night, And then

1577
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 2: I felt like last year it was like sometimes he

1578
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 2: was mister analytics, sometimes he was mister forget the analytics.

1579
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: We gotta play it straight and whatever. And so I

1580
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: don't think he I don't even think he believes in

1581
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: his own you know what. And so, by the way,

1582
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: maybe this is where Kellen Moore comes in. Maybe Kellen

1583
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 2: Moore has discretion over when we're gonna punt, when we're

1584
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: gonna go for it, when we're gonna this one, we're

1585
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: gonna that I don't know, but I to your point, Jason,

1586
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: I'll say this really quick, is I think they are

1587
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: one of the most intriguing storylines because you have the quarterback.

1588
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: He's not going anywhere and so it is time to deliver.

1589
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. And I hope that he can.

1590
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 3: I hope that they have a great year. I hope

1591
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 3: that they are in the mix, and I hope stay

1592
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 3: Away really comes around. And I do think the Kellen

1593
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: Moore addition is a big one. If he can come

1594
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 3: in and be kind of the calming influence and the

1595
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: common sense when it gets out of control, then that

1596
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: can make all the difference in the world. If you

1597
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: can take a little of the pressure off of Stawy,

1598
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: give him a couple of other options to look at

1599
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 3: that aren't a spreadsheet. They are a human being with

1600
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: an actual opinion. That's good. Like I don't know that

1601
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 3: we need to be running our football teams via chat GPT,

1602
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: but that's sort of how it feels sometimes with the Chargers.

1603
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: So this is how I look at it. Texas A

1604
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: and M We're gonna bring in Bobby Petrino because it

1605
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: wasn't working with Jimbo Chargers. We're gonna bring in Kellen

1606
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: Moore because Brandon Stawey. I don't know both of those situations.

1607
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see how they actually play out.

1608
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: Don't disagree. And again, oh, by the way, the other

1609
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: thing that's worth noting much like Texas A and M,

1610
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: actually the division is brutal and there's gonna be no

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01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: off nights when you play Casey the of course, the

1612
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: Broncos with Russell Wilson and Sean Payton, and the Las

1613
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: Fags fiers. I guess there will be off nights when

1614
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: you play the Raris anyway. Fox Sports Radio Ertorris, Jason

1615
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Martin when we come back back to college football. That's next.

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Speaker 2: and preview his show again at two am Eastern time. Jason,

1626
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: we led the show. We've been on since ten pm Eastern,

1627
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: so this is our three as I just mentioned, and

1628
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,959
Speaker 2: we led the show with the big news in college sports,

1629
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: or really it's the entire PAC twelve, right the PAC

1630
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: twelve dissenter in front of our eyes. Earlier this week,

1631
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington the headliners. They are going to the

1632
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: Big ten. Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah headed to the

1633
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Big twelve. Obviously, unfortunately, uh Stanford, Cal Oregon State, Washington

1634
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: State are right now out of a home and it

1635
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: does not look promising that they can stay at the

1636
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: power level. We talked an hour one really about the

1637
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: PAC twelve's demise and fall and what went wrong and

1638
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I want to ask you. I want

1639
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: to start with this, Jason, is these moves we can

1640
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 2: like them, we cannot like them. Whatever, it's here, it's happened,

1641
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: it's whatever. My question for you, though, is is this

1642
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: good for college sports and college football as a whole.

1643
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: And when I say that, what I mean is this

1644
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: is that we have a situation where this sport. You know, Jason,

1645
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: I've been following sports a long time, thirty years or so.

1646
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: At this point in my life, I can't ever remember

1647
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: a single sport transforming more over the course of an

1648
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: eighteen month to two year period than college football. I

1649
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: think everybody thinks of the transfer port of the NIL.

1650
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about

1651
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: is a year from now, Texas and Oklahoma are going

1652
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 2: to the SEC, the Big Twelve is completely revamped. The

1653
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 2: Big Ten has obviously added USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington

1654
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 2: all by the way, as we go to a twelve

1655
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: team playoff that is completely going to reshape this sport

1656
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: in the regular season, a sport that many believe has

1657
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: the best regular season in sports. Now, there's no other

1658
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: way to put it. It's fundamentally changed. You're gonna have

1659
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: twelve teams in the playoff. Teams are gonna have opportunity

1660
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: later into the year, but it's gonna change the sport.

1661
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: So this is a terrible setup. Whatever I'm just trying

1662
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: to frame everything before I toss it over to you.

1663
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: Is all of this good for college sports? Because we

1664
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: have lost at its core a lot of what made

1665
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: US fans in the first place.

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 3: All right, So David Obin is somebody who rice for

1667
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: the athletic by college football, who I've interviewed many many times,

1668
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: who covered ten, who covers ten to see here in

1669
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: the state, used to cover Oklahoma, and he was doing

1670
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: a winners and losers piece, and I think he actually

1671
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 3: says a lot of what you just said, and I

1672
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 3: think I echo most of these sentiments. He has winners

1673
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: and losers, and he says, there's you know, there's some

1674
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 3: winners and there's a lot of losers winners. Casual fans,

1675
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: those who couldn't be bothered to tune in to the

1676
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 3: second most popular sport in America unless the biggest brands

1677
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: were facing off, will see that happen a lot more often.

1678
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 3: The most recognizable teams will be going head to head,

1679
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: and television networks sold out an entire sport to monetize

1680
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: the most eyeballs losers diehard college football fans. This sport

1681
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: is officially unrecognizable from the one most fans fell in

1682
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 3: love with. No one wants to see the game consolidate

1683
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 3: into two major leagues, but schools making the decisions feel

1684
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 3: they have no choice. Authors note they do have a choice.

1685
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: A league with a century of tradition basically disappeared in

1686
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: one day after being kneecapped a year ago. One of

1687
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 3: the alluring things about the sport is its regional identity

1688
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: and differences in leagues throughout the country. That identity is

1689
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 3: no longer as distinct. The reason I read it directly

1690
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 3: is because I couldn't say it better. Sure, I think

1691
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: that's the truth. We're gonna watch the games. We're gonna

1692
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 3: love the games because we love the sport. But what

1693
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: we know as college football is gone completely. Everything that

1694
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: we kind of associated with it growing up, going to games,

1695
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 3: going to school, you know, getting a degree, and going

1696
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 3: to those games on those campuses, being a part of

1697
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: those experiences. That universe is forever shifted and is forever gone.

1698
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 3: It is more dead than horse racing in twenty twenty three.

1699
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: It is more dead than nine of the boxing matches

1700
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: that we see in twenty twenty three. It ain't coming back,

1701
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: and that is a shame because there is a certain

1702
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 3: charm that used to be there that we will never cover.

1703
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: And I do think that as time goes on, we

1704
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 3: will care less and less about it because we are

1705
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: gonna get some incredible television.

1706
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 2: We are and by the way, I think, and this

1707
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: is what you said is always an important point, right

1708
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: is whenever you you being the proverbial sports talk radio

1709
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: host or whatever columnist, whatever, whenever you comment on stuff

1710
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 2: like this, it's not to say that there are no benefits.

1711
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: It's not to say, by the way, that when Oregon

1712
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: is hosting Penn State on a Saturday night and we're

1713
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: doing this show, or USC is playing at Michigan, it's

1714
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: not to say that we're not interested. It's not awesome,

1715
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be fun, but it is different, and

1716
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: it is so fundamentally different than what we grew up

1717
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: with in in what the sport was about. And I'll

1718
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: be honest, is maybe a year from now when we

1719
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 2: get these games, when Texas does host Alabama and when

1720
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: Oklahoma does go to Georgia, like, maybe I'm gonna sit

1721
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: on this stage and say that was the dumbest take

1722
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: I ever had. I can't believe I ever thought that, right,

1723
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: But what I will say is like I did and

1724
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: do enjoy the regionality of this sport. And I know

1725
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: it's something that everybody has said over the last couple days,

1726
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: including the piece that you read from David Oven. But like,

1727
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: to me, that was a fun element of this covering

1728
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: this sport. I remember talking to a mutual friend of ours,

1729
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: former Fox Sports radio host Klay Travis. I remember talking

1730
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 2: to him about this is like the thing that made

1731
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: college football so unique and so different. It was one

1732
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: never ending argument, that's all the sport is is. Well,

1733
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: you know the SEC, remember SEC speed versus Big ten power?

1734
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: Well you know what about USC out on the West coast? Well,

1735
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: how would they handle it if they did? If they

1736
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: went out down to the south and played in front

1737
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: of this team and and and Oklahoma's good? But what

1738
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: happens when they get to the play And it's like,

1739
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: those were fun conversations to have. And it's not that

1740
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm mad that I'm getting Oak Lama, Georgia instead of

1741
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Iowa State. But again, I think it takes away

1742
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: from a lot of what made this sport so unique.

1743
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: And so I know it's not a new thought, but

1744
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: it is. We're trending towards an AFC, NFC. We're still

1745
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 2: gonna watch the games. Everybody loves the NFL and we're

1746
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 2: gonna love college football. When ninety five percent of the

1747
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 2: sports power is consolidated in the Big ten in the SEC.

1748
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: But I remember, I'll give you a very random example, Jason,

1749
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 2: but I remember last year, if you remember, the Bills

1750
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: and Vikings played this unbelievable game, and I forget when

1751
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: it was October or something like that, and it was

1752
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: back and forth and whatever, and it was great and

1753
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: it was incredible, and it was incredible theater and it

1754
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: was seat of your pants and whatever. And I bring

1755
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: it up because I remember when that game went final,

1756
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty overtime November thirteenth. I just looked

1757
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: it up. I remember when that game went final. It

1758
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: was like, that game's awesome. It was unbelievable, and then

1759
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: you just move on to the next one. It's the cliche,

1760
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, Okay, we're on to Cincinnati. And so I

1761
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: bring it up because that's what made college football college

1762
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: football is when you lose that game, it was like, oh, well,

1763
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's chaos. I'll give you another example. This

1764
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: year LSU and Florida State. I think we get the

1765
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: first ape pole this week. LSU and Florida State both

1766
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: be ranked in the top ten to start the year.

1767
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: They play the first Sunday, Labor Day Sunday. When one

1768
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: of those teams loses, it's chaos code read whatever. Next year,

1769
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: it's just it's a loss. Okay, we'll bounce back and

1770
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: we'll be fine. And so I know I went from

1771
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: regionality to how the sket But when I'm just the

1772
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make, this sport is changing so fast.

1773
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: And again, it's not to say that when Alabama plays Texas,

1774
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: when USC plays Michigan, when Ohio State plays Working It's

1775
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: not to say that I'm gonna be sitting refusing to

1776
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: watch Ohio State Oregon when they play. Of course I'm

1777
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna watch. It's gonna be awesome, but it is gonna

1778
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: be different. And again a little bit of what made

1779
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: us love this sport is gone and it's never coming back.

1780
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, to your point about the discussion with Clay, I've

1781
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: had those talks with him years ago as well. And

1782
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: one of the things that you can say about the

1783
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 3: expanded playoff is the discussions and debates they're just not

1784
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 3: gonna have the same exactly, they're not gonna have the

1785
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 3: same bite that they used to because it's just gonna

1786
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: be much less interesting to me to have the twelve

1787
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 3: versus thirteen argument exactly like the four versus five, six,

1788
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: seven team or whatever it might be. And they're just

1789
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 3: being four slots and then like here's a big here's

1790
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: Ohio State losing to Iowa, and then do they still

1791
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 3: get in. That becomes incredibly interesting for days at a time.

1792
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: I do think we're going to lose that We're gonna

1793
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 3: get better football, I think on a week to week

1794
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: out of those two big time conferences, and we're gonna

1795
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 3: see what the SEC is gonna do now and who

1796
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 3: they might add and what's left to happen. But here's

1797
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 3: the other interesting thing you talk about the AFC and

1798
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 3: NFC what college football is looking like. Is the AFC,

1799
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: the NFC, the USFL and the XFL all in the

1800
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: same league. Wow, that's a go ahead because you have

1801
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 3: the have nots in the same world, in the same universe,

1802
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 3: competing somehow for the same award. That But but they

1803
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 3: don't have a shot like those small conference. No one

1804
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: is going to pay attention to any of that. It's

1805
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: the same thing as the USFL and the XFL still

1806
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 3: being eligible for the Super Bowl, but they're playing against

1807
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 3: their own teams and every once in a while they

1808
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 3: become the tomato can for one of these big time schools.

1809
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 3: But that's about it. Like that to me is I

1810
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: don't know if that's appetizing or not, because there are

1811
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: a there is a whole lot of chaff left. We're

1812
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 3: sifting the weed away, but there are schools and I

1813
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: hate to call them chaff, but that's really what it is.

1814
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Like they're just going to be blown away like tumbleweed

1815
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 3: amidst this whole deal. And that's look, that's what it is.

1816
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 3: There are some startup companies that don't last because Apple

1817
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 3: kind of learns of their technology and then comes up

1818
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 3: with a better version of it and then they go

1819
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: completely out of business. Like there's always winners and losers

1820
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 3: to everything, but there are a whole lot of losers

1821
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 3: here in this college football deal, and there are minor

1822
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 3: leagues effectively created because of this current situation.

1823
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Well, and I'll tell you what. We'll come back because

1824
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I do think there's an interesting offshoot to that conversation

1825
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 2: about the future of college football. What does this sport

1826
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: look like? Forget next year, but five years, ten years

1827
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 2: down the road. I think it's something that is worth discussing.

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Speaker 2: conversation on college football. It has changed immensely just to

1845
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,800
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Speaker 2: Before the break, we were talking about the big news

1853
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 2: of the week, the really the demise of the entire

1854
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: PAC twelve five schools left this week, on top of

1855
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: USC and UCLA leaving last summer, on top of Colorado

1856
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 2: leaving a few weeks ago. Pack twelve is essentially down

1857
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: to four schools, and as we said earlier, the league

1858
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: even acknowledged last night on the social media account, we're

1859
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 2: going to help the four remaining schools in whatever way

1860
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: we can, in other words, basically saying that we're not

1861
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: keeping this thing together. Time is ticking here for everybody.

1862
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 2: So we were talking before the break about about just

1863
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: what has happened in college sports and what it means

1864
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: for the consumption patterns, the future.

1865
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 8: All that stuff.

1866
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you. We talked a little

1867
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 2: bit about this in our one when it came to

1868
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington specifically, but I kind of want to

1869
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 2: even take it a step further to the rest of

1870
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: college football is you know, the people that are in

1871
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 2: favor of all this movement, and I don't even know

1872
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: that I'm not in favor of it. I think it's

1873
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 2: just kind of it is what it is at this point.

1874
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of keeps saying, Oh, it's more it's more

1875
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 2: good games. It's more good games. And and you know,

1876
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: you brought up David Hubbins article in The Athletic that

1877
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: college football casuals now get Michigan Oregon instead of say

1878
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 2: Oregon in Washington State and Michigan and whoever Purdue. But

1879
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 2: why I bring it up, Jason is whenever I hear this,

1880
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 2: this this acknowledgment of it, it's more big games. Here's

1881
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 2: the thing, I like, I don't understand why why no

1882
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: one says this part. Somebody's got to lose those games,

1883
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: right Like, like like it's great we get Oregon Michigan,

1884
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: but somebody's gonna lose that game. Maybe it's Oregon, maybe

1885
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 2: it's Washington, maybe it's whatever. But like these schools that

1886
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 2: have have had so much success, whether it's Oregon and

1887
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 2: Washington in the Pac twelve, Oklahoma in the Big twelve. Texas,

1888
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 2: by the way, hasn't even had success in its previous

1889
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: conference and is now going to the SEC. Like I

1890
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: guess what I'm just trying to get to is, do

1891
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: you think in four, five, six years, when all the

1892
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: dust settles, and let's say this is the iteration of

1893
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: college sports that we have for a while, do you

1894
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be any buyer's remorse? Because I think

1895
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: it's if you're an Oklahoma fan, and we've talked a

1896
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 2: plank about this, like it's easy to sit there and

1897
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: say we're tired of playing Iowa State and Kansas State

1898
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: and Kansas and whatever. But it's a lot of fun

1899
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: to beat those teams fifty five to three, And it

1900
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 2: sounds awesome on paper to now have Georgia and LSU

1901
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 2: and Alabama and whoever on the schedule. You're not going

1902
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: eleven in one every year like you mostly have for

1903
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 2: the last decade if you're Oklahoma or the last couple decades.

1904
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: I should say same with Oregon. Washington has had a

1905
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: lot of success. I just wonder, like, it sounds great

1906
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 2: on paper, Jason, but there's gonna be a lot of

1907
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 2: schools that deal with a lot of losses. I just

1908
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: don't think these are things that people think about. When

1909
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 2: do you think about all this expansion stuff.

1910
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you are a big fish in

1911
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 3: a small pond, and now you're jumping into an ocean

1912
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 3: and you're jumping in with sharks, and that's going to

1913
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: have its casualties, and a few wins a year are

1914
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: gonna be earned by the skinnier teeth as opposed to

1915
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 3: fifty five to three. I will say this, I will

1916
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 3: have no sympathy for an Oklahoma fan or someone that's like, man,

1917
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm getting tired of these twenty four to twenty one

1918
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 3: losses as opposed to the sixty five to nothing like,

1919
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have no sympathy for that at all. The

1920
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: decisions were made for money. I think that it's gonna

1921
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 3: make it much harder for an Oklahoma or a Texas

1922
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 3: in terms of being able to get themselves to the

1923
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 3: same level that they could have had they remained where

1924
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 3: they were just from a football standpoint, but there are

1925
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 3: larger issues at play here. The expanded playoff I think

1926
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 3: gives more freedom for some of those universities to make

1927
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 3: a move that otherwise would be even more treacherous. But

1928
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 3: I absolutely think and I think Oregon is going to

1929
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 3: be a prime example of this, and Washington might even

1930
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 3: be a bigger example of this. But the one that's

1931
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 3: going to be the most fascinating to watch of all

1932
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 3: of these by far as Oklahoma, are because Oklahoma is

1933
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: used to for the most part, being more than just

1934
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 3: mildly relevant in college football, and they are jumping into

1935
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 3: a Southeastern conference that is going to want to do

1936
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 3: nothing more than to shut their mouths permanently. And there

1937
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: is a very good chance Oklahoma could become Texas A

1938
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: and m Yeah.

1939
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean the analogy I've heard a lot of people

1940
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: use with Oklahoma is Nebraska, right, like historic power, probably

1941
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 2: not the right conference for them, And I think with

1942
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's the one I'm with you one hundred percent is

1943
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 2: because the like we talk about Oregon and it's a

1944
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 2: great story and they're fascinating and whatever. Oregon has obviously

1945
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 2: had a lot of regional success and they played for

1946
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: two national championships, so maybe that's not fair, but they

1947
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: haven't broken through. They haven't tasted that sweet nectar of

1948
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 2: a national championship. And I know Oklahoma, it's been a while.

1949
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 2: I think it was two thousand. They want to under

1950
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Bob Stoops, but this is a program that essentially no

1951
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 2: one that is walking the face of the earth Jason

1952
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 2: has ever really dealt, has ever really seen Oklahoma have

1953
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 2: a sustained era of not successful football. Basically, you go

1954
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: through the history of college football, Oklahoma and Ohio State

1955
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 2: are the two teams that it's just like, they've never

1956
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: really been really bad for a really long time. And

1957
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Alabama's had downturns USC is coming out of a downturn.

1958
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Texas may be in one perpetually, but Oklahoma They've never

1959
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: really had it. And I think Oklahoma is such a

1960
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: fascinating team to follow going into this year because they

1961
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: have a second year coach. We don't know if he's

1962
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 2: the right guy.

1963
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: Now.

1964
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to cash in all my my Brent

1965
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: Vetnables stock right now. But it wasn't good last year.

1966
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: They went six and seven. The defense, which is supposed

1967
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: to be his strength, was a train wreck. And that's

1968
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve, and so you got one year

1969
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 2: to kind of get this right and get it back

1970
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: on the tracks. You do not want to be going

1971
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,759
Speaker 2: into the SEC on a downturn and that's the interesting

1972
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: one to me as well, Jason, because again and and

1973
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: here's the other thing too, And you're a historian of

1974
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 2: the sport just like I am, and we love it

1975
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 2: and whatever. Here's the thing, no fan, no one really like.

1976
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 2: When you're good for an extended period of time, you

1977
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: just think it's gonna be that way forever, and that's

1978
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,600
Speaker 2: not guaranteed to anybody. And when it starts turning the

1979
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 2: other way, I I do think a lot of people

1980
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: think it's a lot harder to get it turned back

1981
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 2: around than people realize. Look at your home state school

1982
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: of Tennessee.

1983
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 3: I's say that's the best example that you can find.

1984
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 3: And now the current example was Nebraska.

1985
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 2: Well, go ahead. For people who don't know Tennessee football,

1986
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 2: how good was it in the late nineties. And I

1987
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 2: know you've lived all over the Southeast, maybe you weren't

1988
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 2: living in Tennessee at the time. But they fire Phil

1989
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 2: Fulmer because there's just this assumption that it has to

1990
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 2: be better than Phil Follmer, who led them to a

1991
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 2: national championship. And I could be mistaken. I think they

1992
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 2: won the SEC East in his second to last season,

1993
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: and it just wasn't good. Enough and there was a

1994
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,839
Speaker 2: downturn whatever, but you just fire. I'm assuming it's always

1995
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna you know, we're Tennessee. It's just you know, we're

1996
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: just one season away from it bouncing back. I'm looking

1997
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: at Phil Fommer right now, by the way, his last

1998
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 2: let's see one, two, three, four, five, six seasons, his

1999
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 2: last six seasons, Jason, this is Philip Filmer. Three ten

2000
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 2: win seasons, four to nine win seasons. And so I

2001
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 2: think Tennessee fans fire. I think it's it can be

2002
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 2: better than that, and it was. It got a lot

2003
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: worse than that. And they're just now starting to get

2004
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 2: out of it. And again, whether it's Oklahoma or whatever.

2005
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 2: Once it gets going the wrong direction, especially in the SEC,

2006
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: it's a lot harder to turn that ship than a

2007
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 2: lot of people think.

2008
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 3: That's right. And when you make bag coaching higher after

2009
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 3: bag coaching higher after bag coaching higher, and you have

2010
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 3: fans that push the envelope to say the least at

2011
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 3: different times, and around you you see maybe the greatest

2012
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 3: coach in the history of the sport come back to

2013
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 3: one of your rivals and start winning in a big way,

2014
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 3: and you just kind of fall behind. It's really hard

2015
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 3: to catch back up, and that that spiral can happen

2016
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 3: faster than you think, and it can happen in any sport.

2017
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 3: That's like, I don't know that the Patriots realized that

2018
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 3: this was going to go downhill as fast as it did.

2019
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if their fans were quite prepared to

2020
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 3: become as irrelevant as they seem like they're to be.

2021
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 3: And sometimes you and not Sometimes most of the time,

2022
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 3: you don't recognize how good you've got it until it's over.

2023
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: And that goes for an athlete that leaves a team

2024
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 3: and then recognizes, oh man, that was better than I thought.

2025
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 3: This is not good at all. And they're you know,

2026
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 3: they're chasing happiness, they're chasing whatever it is. They're nowhere

2027
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 3: close to a championship, and maybe they were close at

2028
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 3: one point in time. The example always go to outside

2029
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 3: of college football is the NBA, and I always go

2030
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 3: to the Orlando Magic when they had Shack and Penny

2031
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 3: Sure because people thought that was a dynasty, they were

2032
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 3: gonna go to ten finals in a row. When they

2033
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 3: went to their first finals, which they ended up losing

2034
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 3: to Houston because Nick Anderson missed the four free throws

2035
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 3: it goes to overtime on the Kenny Smith three and

2036
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 3: then they lose and then they get swept. Well they're

2037
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: gonna be back. I mean, it's Shack and it's Penny. Well,

2038
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 3: Penny got hurt, and there was an ego problem, and

2039
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 3: there was a money situation, and there was a Shack

2040
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: wanting to go to La problem. All these things happen

2041
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 3: and they never got back, and they still haven't won

2042
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 3: a championship. And the dynasty that was supposed to be

2043
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: barely ever even got off the ground and got one

2044
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 3: crack at the Apple before it was a complete wrap

2045
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 3: and it just has never been able to materialize since.

2046
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 3: But that was supposed to be a thing that wasn't

2047
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 3: going to end. All of these things are recognize when

2048
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 3: your team is good, it's not always gonna.

2049
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 6: Be that way.

2050
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 3: It's just not you're gonna and if you have a

2051
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 3: sustain length where things are going really well, soak that

2052
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 3: up and enjoy it. I mean, look at Clemson and

2053
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 3: how long it took Clemson to get back. And I

2054
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 3: don't mean like where they sit now, but just when

2055
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 3: Dabos started winning with Taj Boyd and Sean Watson and

2056
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence like before that timeframe, I lived in South Carolina,

2057
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 3: and they acted like Danny Ford had just left them

2058
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 3: the year before. It took forever for them to actually

2059
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 3: get back to some degree of relevance. So that's the

2060
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 3: danger if you're in Oklahoma. They don't know what this is.

2061
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 3: Like Between Switzer and Bob Stoops, they had a little

2062
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 3: bit of a down period, but it wasn't decades long,

2063
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 3: it wasn't fifteen years, and they are running into a

2064
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 3: brick wall in the SEC that's going to try and

2065
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 3: end them. Now we'll see, maybe they're gonna be up

2066
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,560
Speaker 3: for the challenge, and maybe if it's not Brent Vettables,

2067
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 3: then they're gonna throw a ton of money at somebody

2068
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 3: else and they're gonna bring them there and they're gonna

2069
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 3: find a way. Oklahoma's gonna do everything they can. Our guy,

2070
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 3: Chris Plank will tell us that the next time we

2071
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 3: chat with him. I'm sure, but I do look at

2072
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 3: this and say, this is a big time risk for

2073
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 3: Oklahoma because they have been kind of the class of

2074
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 3: a conference for as long as I can remember, and

2075
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 3: now they are just going to be one of the

2076
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 3: teams that's in the mix. You go from being the

2077
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 3: guy to like, oh, miss Overnight.

2078
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, and this is a cliche thing,

2079
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: but it is true. All that money's great. The fans

2080
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: don't get at it, like, as an Oklahoma fan, you

2081
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: don't get a voucher because you're making more money in

2082
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 2: the SEC. They don't hand they don't hand fans a check.

2083
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Fans just want to win. Yes, the competition will be

2084
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: more fun to kind of consume and watch, but again,

2085
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 2: let's see what happens if Oklahoma struggles in the SEC

2086
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 2: the way they did in the Big Twelve last season.

2087
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio era towards Jason Martin coming up. Do

2088
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 2: want to go from a team that is headed to

2089
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 2: the SEC to a team that wants to be there?

2090
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: We'll explain next before we do, though, news death to Sega.

2091
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: What is trending?

2092
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 7: Hello again, gentlemen, and you mentioned in our lifetime sustained

2093
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 7: excellence for Oklahoma football except for those about five so

2094
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 7: so years right before they hired Bob Stoops and then

2095
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 7: year two of Stoops, he's thirteen and zero at.

2096
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 8: A national champion. So yeah, right back on the horse.

2097
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 2: And remember, like Stoops, there was a moment before he

2098
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 2: hired Lincoln Riley where they were winning the conference, but

2099
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 2: it was like, it's not good enough. Why aren't we

2100
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: competing for championships? And Lincoln Riley gave him a little

2101
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 2: juice at the end there. But that is a program

2102
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 2: that has national championship expects and they're not going to

2103
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 2: be very patient, very patient if they continued struggle.

2104
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, and as far as the Big Twelve Conference, remember,

2105
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 7: well let's start with the PAC twelve.

2106
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 8: What you've been talking about.

2107
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 7: Oregon and Washington are leaving the PAC twelve to go

2108
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 7: to the Big Ten Conference a year from now. USC

2109
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 7: and UCLA are also leaving in a year for the

2110
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 7: Big Ten, but Colorado's going back.

2111
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 8: We'll leave for the Big twelve.

2112
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 7: And the Big twelve conference voted to add Utah and

2113
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 7: Arizona State last night. Arizona was also approved also leaving

2114
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 7: the PAC twelve. So the Big twelve will have sixteen

2115
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 7: schools starting in a year, same size as the SEC.

2116
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 8: The Big Ten will be up to.

2117
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 7: Eighteen schools, the PAC twelve will be down to four

2118
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 7: schools at the moment. The odd thing during the show

2119
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 7: last night, there is something that came across and said,

2120
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 7: PAC twelve is having a meeting.

2121
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 8: What you mean four guys in a cubicles, who's the

2122
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 8: PAC twelve. That's media exactly.

2123
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 7: And by the way, none of the departing Pack twelve

2124
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 7: schools will have to pay an exit fee because the

2125
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 7: league has a media rights deal that expires next year,

2126
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 7: so they get to leave for free. And Oregon and

2127
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 7: Washington will not be getting full revenue shares in their

2128
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 7: new conference until the Big ten current TV deal finishes

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Speaker 7: in twenty thirty and.

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Speaker 8: They still chose to leave. That's all you need to know.

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Speaker 7: At the Women's World Cup, in the round of sixteen,

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Speaker 7: the US plays Sweden five am Eastern Time on Fox TV.

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Speaker 7: Rose Lebel is out after two yellow cards. Winner of

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Speaker 7: this will face Japan in a quarterfinal. Japan beat Norway

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01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 7: three to one. Spain eliminated Switzerland five to one. It'll

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Speaker 7: be Spain against Netherlands in a quarterfinal. The Dutch had

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Speaker 7: seventy percent of the possession tonight on Fox TV, and

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Speaker 7: Netherlands shut out South Africa two to nothing. NASCAR suspended

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Speaker 7: Noah Gregson indefinitely for his actions on social media. Saints

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Speaker 7: running back Eno Benjamin is likely out for the year

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Speaker 7: with a ruptured achilles two late games in Major League

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Speaker 7: Baseball each final. San Diego on FS one beat the

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Speaker 7: Dodgers eight three, scoring seven runs in the bottom of

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Speaker 7: the eighth. Seattle down the Angels in Anaheim three to two.

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Speaker 7: The Halos have lost five in a row since the

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Speaker 7: trade deadline. Their fifty six and fifty seve Minnesota a

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01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 7: twelve to one winner over Arizona, which has lost five

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Speaker 7: in a row. Milwaukee won in ten innings Texas one,

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Speaker 7: it's fifth in a row. Yankees beat Houston and Justin

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01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 7: Verlander three to one, and the White Sox were seven

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Speaker 7: to four winners at Cleveland. The loss to Noah Cinderguard,

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01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 7: who allowed four homers in six innings, but notable the fight.

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01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 7: In the sixth inning, Jose Ramirez knocked down White Sox

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01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 7: short stop Tim Anderson with a punch.

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Speaker 8: Both were kicked out back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Steve Sager De Saga will rejoin

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Speaker 2: us here momentarily for his extended Saturday night into Sunday update.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. Jason, this wasn't on the

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Speaker 2: rundown tonight. Have you been monitoring Florida State in all this,

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01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 2: Have you been paying attention to what they're doing?

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01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 3: Because if not, maybe not close enough, please inform me.

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01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 2: Okay, it's kind of crazy. So essentially Florida State's got

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01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of envy from a distance here. So

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Speaker 2: you know, again not to nerd out on TV contracts

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01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 2: all that, But Florida State and the ACC. So as

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01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: the SAGRED has told you, the PAC twelve's TV deal

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Speaker 2: ends in twenty twenty four, the ACC's TV deal is

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Speaker 2: through twenty thirty six. Yep, those schools are tied together,

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Speaker 2: and Florida State essentially sees itself falling behind the SEC,

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01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: their biggest rival, Florida, and they feel like, we got

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01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 2: to get out of this ACC deal. And so anyway,

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01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 2: over the last couple of months they've had two or

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Speaker 2: three board meetings where they've basically said, like, we have

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01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 2: to start putting together a plan. We got to figure

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Speaker 2: it out. Meanwhile, they're contractually obligated to this conference through

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty six. Why I bring it up. Yesterday sported Co,

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01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,799
Speaker 2: which covers kind of the business side of sports, reported

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Speaker 2: that they are looking into a partnership with JP Morgan Chase,

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Speaker 2: a private equity firm, to basically raise money to potentially

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Speaker 2: get like literally hundreds of millions of dollars if necessary,

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01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 2: to get out of their ACC deal. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: just a report. It's in the beginning stages, and again

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Speaker 2: Florida State they're trying to get out of the ACC one.

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01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 2: It's up for debate if the SEC would even want them.

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01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 2: They already have a presence in Florida. The Gators might

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01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 2: not be happy about it. And Florida State respectfully, like

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01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, I understand Texas. There was already a

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Speaker 2: team in Texas, and Texas they still wanted Texas. It's

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01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: debatable if the SEC would even want them. I just

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01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 2: bring it up because Florida State is literally talking to

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Speaker 2: a private equity firm to potentially try and figure out

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Speaker 2: a way out of the ACC. It's the latest twist

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Speaker 2: in this crazy, crazy realignment in college supports GEO.

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Speaker 3: I mean I get it for Florida State. I also

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 3: laugh and say, okay, whatever, Like if they get all

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01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 3: these people to pay hundreds of millions to get them

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Speaker 3: out just to go to a conference and get stomped

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Speaker 3: I'm there for it because that's the other side, like you,

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01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 3: that ACC deals about as bad as it gets. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm a guy who went to an ACC school for

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01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 3: a few years originally and grew up in ACC territory,

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01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 3: and I hate seeing that because I love those universities,

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01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 3: especially the original ACC back before kind of what it

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01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: has become with some of the more recent additions. But

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Speaker 3: that's the deal that got set. It's the one that

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01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 3: everybody at least at one point said, okay, yeah, and

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01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 3: now you're kind of screwed. And Florida State is definitely

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Speaker 3: a school that you would look at if you were

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01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 3: the SEC for sure, but they're certainly one that that

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01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. I can understand what Florida

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01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 3: State is doing. I also think it's insane, and if

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01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 3: they were to actually get the money, it shows just

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01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 3: how crazy this country is, especially for football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this is in the beginning stages. It might

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01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 2: not be though. It's weird because I guess there's some

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01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: clause where if they were to leave the ACC, it

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01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 2: would have to be before August fifteenth. But my whole

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01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 2: thing is you're gonna be paying nine figures anyway, and

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01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 2: so bottom line, it doesn't feel as though this is

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01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: actually gonna happen, but Florida State appears to be unhappy

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01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 2: the irony. By the way, Florida State actually got a

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01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 2: commitment from one of the top high school players of

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01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: the country today, a five star named kJ Bolden. So

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01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 2: so as bad as things as bad as Florida State

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 2: thinks things are there, they're gonna enter the season in

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01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: the top ten. They won ten games last year, they're

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01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 2: on the uptick, and they're recruiting really well. But it

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01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 2: just speaks to the insanity going through college sports right

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01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: now and the fact that everybody that's not in the

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01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 2: SEC in the Big ten is desperately trying to get in.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ERATORUS Jayson Martin coming up de Saga

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Speaker 2: rejoins us his extended update. We do it every week

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Speaker 2: around twelve forty five Eastern to Saga next with the

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Speaker 2: news and notes that you missed throughout the day. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: into Sunday twelve forty five Eastern, eleven forty five Central,

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Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk to stagger take it away.

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Speaker 7: Do you know there is boxing tonight? Yeah, Pallas with

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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 7: Nate Diaz and Jake Paul. Apparently halfway through.

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01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: Can I jump in on that really quick? Jason brought

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01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 2: up earlier Logan Paul and the impact that he's having

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01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 2: on wrestling. So I just saw this from Dave Mason,

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Speaker 2: who works for bet Online. Ag said that both bets

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01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: and volume of bets on Jake Paul Nate Diaz about

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01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 2: two times more than Spence Crawford last week. WHOA, So

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01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: you talk about like their superstars exactly. They're great at

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01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: what they do. They're great at promotion. I think they

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Speaker 2: take both of them take their respective sport more seriously

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Speaker 2: than people give them credit for. But anyway, I didn't

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Speaker 2: mean to interrupt it.

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Speaker 8: sEH good.

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01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 2: They had to create interest.

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Speaker 7: They're through five rounds apparently scheduled for ten. That's where

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Speaker 7: it stands.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 7: Today for football, we had the Hall of Fame in

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01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 7: Shrineman and Canton, Ohio Pro Football Hall of Fame the

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01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 7: class of twenty twenty three. Not a lot of offense,

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01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 7: but some big names from like Joe Thomas, Darrell Reeves

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01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 7: in the Hall. Also Joe Cleco, Ronde Barber, DeMarcus ware,

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Speaker 7: Zach Thomas, coach of Don Coriel, Chuck Howley and Ken

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Speaker 7: Riley are.

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Speaker 8: In the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 7: So who's in the Hall next year? Well, we know

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01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 7: who's eligible to be on the ballot and that is correct.

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 7: Andrew Luck will be eligible to be considered for the

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Speaker 7: All of Fame in a year is four Pro Bowls

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 7: in six years and retiring early with injury enough to

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01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 7: one day get in the Hall. Tom Brady for one,

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01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 7: not eligible to till twenty twenty eight. You have to

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01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 7: be five years from retirement. Antonio Gates, former Charger tight end,

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01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 7: will be up for the Hall next year. He's number

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Speaker 7: one all time among tight ends in career touchdown receptions

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 7: with over one hundred. Defensive end Julius Peppers, who played

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 7: for Carolina and others nine Pro Bowl teams for him

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01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 7: in a seventeen year career. He'll be up for the Hall. Also,

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Speaker 7: running back Jamal Charles mainly with the Chiefs his career

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01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 7: eleven years in the league, over five yards per carry

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Speaker 7: for his career. Wide receiver Brandon Marshall will be on

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 7: the ballot. Heloti Nata, Nata. We're talking about Oregon here.

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01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 7: That's immediately what I think of his Oregon brace and

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 7: not his pro career Eric Berry and Sebastian Jenikowski. There

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01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 7: are only two full time kickers to be enshrined in

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01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 7: Ken Jon Stenerud Morton Anderson Adam Vannit Terry is not

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01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 7: eligible until.

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Speaker 8: Twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Just for the record.

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Speaker 7: As far as NFL notes, yesterday, Saints running back Alvin

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Speaker 7: Kamara was suspended for three regular season games after the

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01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 7: fight in Las Vegas over a year ago. Today, the

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01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 7: announcement from the Saints that running back you know Benjamin

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01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 7: is likely out for the year with a ruptured achilles.

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Speaker 7: Most of the NFL starts the preseason in about a

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01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 7: week after the Hall of Fame Game open things last Thursday.

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Speaker 7: The Broncos say quarterback Russell Wilson and starters will play

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Speaker 7: in the exhibition opener on Friday. The colt sign running

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Speaker 7: back Kenya and Drake. The Falcons expect defensive back Jeff

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01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 7: Okuda to return early in the regular season after his

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01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 7: ankle injury, and wide receiver Garrett Wilson of the Jets

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 7: should return from his ankle injury on Tuesday for joint

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01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 7: practices against the Panthers. An announcement with Fox and USA

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Speaker 7: Basketball that will include some coverage of the exhibitions this

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Speaker 7: month now. USA Basketball is practicing in Las Vegas right

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Speaker 7: now for the Feeble World Cup that starts in late August.

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Speaker 7: There will be a USA VERSUS Puerto Rico exhibition Monday

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Speaker 7: night in Vegas and that will be on FS one

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Speaker 7: ten pm Eastern time. Next weekend, there will be two

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Speaker 7: US exhibitions live from Spain, one on FS one, one

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01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 7: on Fox, one of them against Spain. And the big

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01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 7: news today that guard Ricky Rubio will not be playing

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Speaker 7: for Spain at the upcoming Basketball World Cup. He is

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01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 7: pausing his career citing mental health. Spain won the last

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Speaker 7: Basketball World Cup four years ago and the tournament MVP

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Speaker 7: was Ricky Rubio. In twenty fourteen, the US won the

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Speaker 7: gold beating Serbia. Kyrie Irving was the Star twenty ten,

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Speaker 7: the US one at Turkey when Kevin Durant was the Star.

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Speaker 7: So training camps in Vegas here, then the exhibitions in Spain,

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Speaker 7: and also three exhibitions that will be televised from Abu Dhabi,

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Speaker 7: including the US against Greece and the US against Germany

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Speaker 7: in a couple of weeks. The American team does include

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Speaker 7: Rookie of the Year Paulo Bankeero playing for the US

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Speaker 7: and not for Italy. Defensive Player of the Year Jaron

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Speaker 7: Jackson is on the American team this summer, as well

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Speaker 7: All Stars Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Halliburton, Austin Reeves of the

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Speaker 7: Lakers playing for Team USA, Brandon Ingram, and others. The

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01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 7: last roster spot for the summer went to Knicks guard

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Speaker 7: Josh Hart when he committed to Team USA. Nikola Jokic

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Speaker 7: will not play for Serbia at the World Cup. Kyle

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01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 7: Anderson of the Timberwolves at of UCLA will play for China.

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01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 7: He's become a naturalized citizen there. At the Women's World Cup,

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Speaker 7: Team USA plays Sweden in the Round of sixteen on

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Speaker 7: Fox TV at five am Eastern time pregame at four

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Speaker 7: am Eastern. The winner will face Japan in the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 7: Bad news for the US. Not only they've had very

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Speaker 7: little offense for months now, including in this tournament, but

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Speaker 7: Rose level is out after two yellow cards. The US

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Speaker 7: missing five injured players that includes four scores. That includes

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Speaker 7: Mallory Swanson, who's out for the tournament with a knee injury.

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Speaker 7: This is the sixth straight World Cup where the US

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Speaker 7: and Sweden have met. The US's ranked number one for

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Speaker 7: now Sweden number three in the world. Earlier this week,

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Speaker 7: Sweden sat as starters and still won two nothing over Argentina,

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Speaker 7: and before that they beat Italy five nothing, and Sweden

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Speaker 7: won its tournament opener on a late goal. US and

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Speaker 7: Sweden did meet a couple of years ago in the Olympics,

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Speaker 7: and the Americans got shut out by Sweden three nothing

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Speaker 7: in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: things sports, including the Big Ten the PAC twelve coming up.

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Speaker 2: about a crazy week in sports. Jason, before we move

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Speaker 2: on to some odds and ends for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the week, I just want to kind of put it

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Speaker 2: out there for you. We've talked a lot throughout the

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Speaker 2: show about the news of the week in college sports. Oregon,

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02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Washington off to the Big Ten, Arizona Arizona State, Utah

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Speaker 2: headed to the Big twelve, and the PAC twelve essentially

2380
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Speaker 2: disintegrating in front of our eyes. Credit to the Athletic,

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Speaker 2: they actually just put out an article within the last

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Speaker 2: few hours with some details on everything that went wrong,

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Speaker 2: some of the details on the TV proposals that came

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Speaker 2: out earlier this week. Why the school said no kind

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Speaker 2: of the timeline with everything, We've talked about this from

2386
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Speaker 2: every angle, but just want to give you the floor

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Speaker 2: for half a second. Is there anything about this whole situation,

2388
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Speaker 2: because there's so many moving parts, from what went wrong

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Speaker 2: to the death of the Pac twelve to how these

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Speaker 2: schools are going to compete in the Big ten all

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Speaker 2: that stuff. Is there anything on that topic that we

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Speaker 2: have not hit yet? Any closing thoughts, but before we

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Speaker 2: move on to some other stuff tonight.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it'd be too easy to

2395
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 3: just sit here and dunk on Larry Scott, but certainly

2396
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 3: a lot of this falls on him. Kleevkov came in

2397
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 3: and it was already burning, and maybe there was a

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Speaker 3: hose outside somewhere. He couldn't find it in time, and

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Speaker 3: the thing just burned down. And I continue to go

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Speaker 3: back to the same point. It's just Washington State and

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02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 3: Oregon State. I know, a few people that went to

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Speaker 3: Washington State, and I'm sure this is tough on them.

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02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what their future is going to look

2404
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 3: like as a university, but I do know that their

2405
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 3: best days in terms of being relevant are gone, and

2406
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 3: that's that stinks. There's always gonna be losers and stuff

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Speaker 3: like this. The rich are gonna get richer, and the

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Speaker 3: poor are just going to disappear. In many respects. We're

2409
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Speaker 3: not gonna know what all of this really is for

2410
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 3: a while. Like we know what it's gonna be on

2411
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Speaker 3: a week to week basis in terms of the games

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Speaker 3: that we're going to see and the games that we're

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Speaker 3: not going to see, but in terms of the full

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Speaker 3: ramifications in what college athletics looks like a decade from now,

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Speaker 3: maybe even five years from now, we're just gonna have

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02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 3: to We're gonna have to sit on the edge of

2417
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 3: our seats and find out and see whether or not

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Speaker 3: this turns out to have been the right move, even

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Speaker 3: if we all saw it coming now for a few years,

2420
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 3: like the inevitability of all of this, this thing's been

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02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 3: building and building and building, and now we've reached this

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Speaker 3: spot and so we just kind of have to sit

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Speaker 3: back and watch it. Actually start start watching this twelve

2424
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 3: team playoff. See what happened with the Florida States of

2425
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 3: the world. Can this acc rights deal? Is there a

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Speaker 3: way out of it for anybody? And what does it

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Speaker 3: look like? But I just look at the schools that

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Speaker 3: are going to be left behind and the ones that

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Speaker 3: might have had a chance and are now not going

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Speaker 3: to have a chance, and I do feel some degree

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Speaker 3: of sympathy for them, even if they were reaping benefits

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Speaker 3: that maybe they hadn't fully It's not like they weren't

2433
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Speaker 3: all carrying equal weight in terms of what was coming

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Speaker 3: back to these universities based on what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: The television deal wasn't about securing Pullman Washington. It was

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Speaker 3: about Oregon, it was about USC It was about these

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Speaker 3: bigger universities. So I see that side of the argument

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Speaker 3: as well. But I also think Washington State did all

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Speaker 3: they could. Oregon State won ten games. We talked about

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Speaker 3: that earlier. They beat Oregon last year, had a heck

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Speaker 3: of a year. Looked like they were really on the build. Well,

2442
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Speaker 3: now what do you sell if you're trying to build

2443
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Speaker 3: that that team, build that university, build that program. What

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Speaker 3: do you sell if you're not part of a quote

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Speaker 3: unquote big five that now doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you. I know it's impossible to know,

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Speaker 2: but five, ten, fifteen years down the road, right, So

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Speaker 2: a couple thoughts. One, like you look at an Oregon, Washington,

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Speaker 2: USC UCLA, like, do you think we get to a

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Speaker 2: point ten twelve years from now where you know, we

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Speaker 2: talk about the PAC twelve not being sustainable the way

2452
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Speaker 2: that it was, and whether that's actually fair or not

2453
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. Could you see a scenario in

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Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty years where it does go back to

2455
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Speaker 2: being more regional where like USC UCLA they did that

2456
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Speaker 2: thing in the Big ten for ten to fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: and it's just not sustainable to have the entire athletic

2458
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Speaker 2: department flying across country, you know, ten times, you know whatever.

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 2: If a volleyball team, I don't know what a volleyball

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02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 2: schedule looks like, but if they play twenty matches, ten

2462
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Speaker 2: of them going to be on the road, right, So

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Speaker 2: that's five probably five cross country road trips. That's probably

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Speaker 2: five weeks on the road when you whatever, Because I

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Speaker 2: look at this and like, I don't know, I just

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Speaker 2: I could see the scenario where like ten fifteen years

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Speaker 2: from now, it's just no, these West coast schools, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna do a West Coast I don't know. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: out of my you know what here, because there's no

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Speaker 2: way to know, but like it all sounds great now,

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02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 2: but you just look at five ten years from now,

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Speaker 2: is it really going to be sustainable for Oregon to

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Speaker 2: fly its entire athletic department. It's what I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking out, well, we're already seeing that there

2475
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Speaker 2: are already questions.

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Speaker 3: There are already some things being mentioned in some of

2477
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Speaker 3: the non revenue generating sports about the travel and all

2478
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 3: those things. And this is ultimately what all of that

2479
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 3: boils down to. Nobody cares, like, nobody that really matters

2480
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 3: in terms of the business side of this, cares about

2481
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:00,880
Speaker 3: what's going to happen to the field hockey team, cares

2482
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 3: about what's going to happen to the tennis team, cares

2483
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 3: what's going to happen to the volleyball team in some cases,

2484
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 3: and some of these things. That's just everything is a

2485
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:14,440
Speaker 3: casualty to the dollar, and everything in America is a

2486
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 3: casualty to the pig skin and then to a lesser

2487
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 3: degree to the round ball. But I would say this

2488
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 3: is all being generated by football. There are going to

2489
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Speaker 3: be a lot of bodies left behind. There're gonna be

2490
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Speaker 3: a lot of things that are not taken into consideration,

2491
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 3: that are going to cost a lot, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to see I think programs disappear from some of these universities, well,

2493
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 3: to see some of these non revenue generating sports no

2494
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 3: longer exists.

2495
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 2: And my last question on this, and again this is

2496
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 2: another one that there's no way to know, but I

2497
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 2: look at the PAC twelve, right, or the ACC might

2498
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:54,120
Speaker 2: even be the best example. Florida State essentially is trying

2499
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 2: to get out because they're tired of carrying Boston College

2500
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 2: and Syracuse and all, you know, or to Tech whatever.

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02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:04,640
Speaker 2: My next thought is, do we get to the next

2502
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 2: TV contract? Like, do you ever think and this is

2503
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 2: impossible to know, but I'm gonna say it anyway, do

2504
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 2: you ever think we get to the point where some

2505
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 2: of these leagues contract?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 2: Because if the concept of this is the reason we're

2508
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 2: adding Oregon, USUCLA, whatever, is because they do add value

2509
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 2: to the existing TV deal, It's clearly about what you

2510
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 2: just said, making the most possible money for everybody. But

2511
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 2: do you think we ever get to a point where

2512
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 2: the SEC comes up on its next TV contract? And

2513
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 2: Alabama and LSU said the Vanderbilt like, we appreciate you,

2514
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 2: but like, what are you doing for us? Like I'm

2515
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 2: curious as to that as well. Is that three four

2516
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,840
Speaker 2: five years ago? I think the conversation started about, Hey,

2517
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 2: in European soccer, we have contraction? Could that ever come

2518
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 2: to college sports? I never really believed that that would happen.

2519
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 2: But the way that it is so egregiously about money,

2520
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 2: and the way that these TV networks respectively respectfully, everything

2521
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 2: is done by the TV networks to put on the

2522
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 2: best possible TV product imaginable. And so that's why O'regon

2523
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 2: and Washington are going. That's why USC and UCLA went, Texas,

2524
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Vanderbilt right now is not a good TV product.

2525
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 2: Mississippi State isn't. Washington State and Oregon State aren't. And

2526
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,120
Speaker 2: I just wonder if that's the next iteration of this

2527
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 2: when the next contracts are up. Is basically it's about money.

2528
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 2: It's about TV deals, and the powers that be say,

2529
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 2: you know what, you know, we wanted more good games.

2530
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 2: We got a Oregon playing Michigan, this and that. Well,

2531
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 2: now let's get rid of Minnesota. Now let's get rid

2532
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:43,080
Speaker 2: of Purdue, and let's get more good games. I know

2533
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking out of my you know what, but these

2534
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 2: are just things that I don't know. I just I

2535
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 2: find them fascinating conversations about what this looks like ten

2536
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 2: years from now, because again, as we learned, it's all

2537
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 2: about money, and once you get a lot of it,

2538
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 2: it's never enough for the powers that be.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and yes, that's exactly right, and that is

2540
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 3: exactly the kind of thing that is going to happen.

2541
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 3: It's the same thing as you know, TV and movies

2542
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 3: that get canceled. It's like, even if the critics love them,

2543
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 3: even if they're absolute just darlings of independent cinema and

2544
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:14,959
Speaker 3: all this, and they don't make money in the studios

2545
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 3: shut down, or you know, just as a weird example,

2546
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:23,080
Speaker 3: video games costing tens and tens and tens and sometimes

2547
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars, if they come out and

2548
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 3: they review poorly, that entire studio shuts down because there's

2549
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 3: just nothing there. They spent five years trying to build

2550
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 3: something and it wasn't there. It doesn't matter how good

2551
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:39,560
Speaker 3: a television show is. It matters if people are going

2552
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 3: to watch. That's why there's a bunch of garbage reality

2553
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 3: on TV that I feel like basically makes us all

2554
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 3: stupider for ever consuming any of it. But tens of

2555
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 3: millions of people, or five or six million people a

2556
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 3: week watch it. And so it's on and a lot

2557
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 3: of scripted things disappear and they try to find different homes.

2558
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean, here's an example that's that's football related. Friday

2559
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 3: Night Lights. Friday Night Lights on NBC could never get

2560
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 3: a ratings foothold. First off, it was put on Friday

2561
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:13,560
Speaker 3: nights in the fall, not the best idea for target ratings.

2562
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 3: The target audience is at high school football games. So

2563
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 3: NBC cancels it because they just can't find it, just

2564
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 3: can't find home. Despite the fact that critics adure it.

2565
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 3: It's in most people's including mind and when I was

2566
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 3: writing for Clay, it was number six on my OutKick

2567
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 3: Drama list of all time. Just an absolutely tremendous show.

2568
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 3: It gets picked up by a direct TV group and

2569
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 3: they put it on the Audience Network for two seasons

2570
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 3: and it ends there because they made a decision that

2571
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 3: the critical mass and even the small audience, there was

2572
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:50,880
Speaker 3: a reason for it. This is basically that there are

2573
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 3: some schools that are Friday night lights, but there is

2574
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 3: no audience network. There is no like Apple's not paying

2575
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 3: money for the Mountain West. That's not going to happen.

2576
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 3: Netflix is not paying money for some trash acc even

2577
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 3: or something like that. That's the biggest issue, and that's

2578
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 3: what's going to happen. And some of these schools that

2579
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 3: are in the big time conferences that aren't generating the

2580
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 3: same kind of numbers, aren't generating the same kind of revenue.

2581
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 3: You want to talk about Brandon Staey being a spreadsheet guy.

2582
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna have Excel and it's gonna be a bottom

2583
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,920
Speaker 3: line P and L and it's gonna and you mentioned

2584
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,840
Speaker 3: Minnesota and some of those schools, that's right, they're gonna

2585
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 3: look around and say, you know what X school actually

2586
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 3: is would offer us more? And that's what it's going

2587
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 3: to be. It's what can you bring us? And it's

2588
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 3: gonna be the haves making those decisions. And you're going

2589
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 3: to see some of the I wouldn't call them bottom feeders,

2590
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 3: but just some of those teams that aren't particularly relevant

2591
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 3: aren't giant draws in those big conferences. They're gonna go

2592
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 3: because regional rivalries are going to play second fiddle to

2593
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 3: money and television. And look, ESPN and everybody that was

2594
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 3: associated with the Big Ten deal in advance is thrilled

2595
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,280
Speaker 3: because they just got a couple of more big brands

2596
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 3: on top of it. There's gonna be more great windows.

2597
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 3: I heard Common Colard talking about the Big Ten is

2598
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 3: gonna be able to own the whole day because they've

2599
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: got stuff on the West coast to get stuff on

2600
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:20,560
Speaker 3: the East coast. That's a brilliant point. And that's the

2601
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 3: way this is gonna go. And I do think behind

2602
02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 3: closed doors, the TV networks that are paying into this,

2603
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:29,200
Speaker 3: and the conference administrators and the university presidents in these

2604
02:12:29,240 --> 02:12:32,560
Speaker 3: athletic departments, they're going to be the ultimate arbiters and

2605
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be based on money. And there's gonna

2606
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 3: be some schools that you won't believe that are gonna

2607
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 3: end up being replaced in short order.

2608
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think the lesson that we continue to

2609
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:46,720
Speaker 2: learn with all this stuff, it's about money, It's about brands,

2610
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:50,080
Speaker 2: it's about it's a TV product, okay, And I just

2611
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 2: sit there and think, you know, listen and maybe Callen

2612
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 2: Stanford are a good example of this is they thought, hey,

2613
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 2: we've been grandfathered into this thing and it doesn't really

2614
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 2: matter whether we're good or not because we're part of

2615
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 2: this quote unquote power five and we're gonna be that

2616
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 2: way forever. And so what I've learned is it's about

2617
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 2: the money. But once you get the money, it's never enough.

2618
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:13,560
Speaker 2: Right Like there, I don't I can't think of whatever,

2619
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 2: just whoever it is, it's never enough. You always want more,

2620
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 2: you always want to cut people out. And so when

2621
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:22,840
Speaker 2: I look at that, and when I look at the

2622
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 2: fact that TV networks are controlling this product, I just

2623
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a fascinating thing to see going forward,

2624
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 2: because I don't think if you're Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Minnesota,

2625
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry to those schools or those fans or whatever,

2626
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm just using you as a hypothetical. Minnesota's coming off

2627
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 2: a great season under PJ. Flex. So that's not a

2628
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:44,600
Speaker 2: criticism of the individual school. It's just if Ohio State basically,

2629
02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:46,680
Speaker 2: this is what Florida State is saying right now in

2630
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 2: the ACC negotiations, is we bring in a disproportional amount

2631
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 2: of money, we should get a disproportional amount of money.

2632
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 2: And so that was USC and UCLA when they were

2633
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:59,360
Speaker 2: in the PAC twelve, that was Oregon and Washington this

2634
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:02,360
Speaker 2: week where they asked for a bigger cut of whatever

2635
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,560
Speaker 2: the pie was going to be from the PAC twelve.

2636
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 2: And so I just think it's interesting and I think

2637
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:10,280
Speaker 2: we've learned if we've learned one thing in the last

2638
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:13,400
Speaker 2: two or three years, just because things are a certain

2639
02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 2: way doesn't mean that they're going to be that way

2640
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 2: in perpetuity.

2641
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 3: And it's just.

2642
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:21,640
Speaker 2: Like I think we all think that this is all

2643
02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 2: going to slow down at some point, and I guess

2644
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 2: to a degree, once all these TV contracts are signed,

2645
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:29,080
Speaker 2: it will slow down for a four, five, six, seven

2646
02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:32,640
Speaker 2: year period. But again, the money is never enough. And

2647
02:14:32,680 --> 02:14:36,040
Speaker 2: if Ohio State feels like it deserves more, and they

2648
02:14:36,160 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 2: probably do deserve more, then again fill in the blank, Indiana, Rutgers,

2649
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 2: whoever it is. I just wonder if that's the next

2650
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:44,120
Speaker 2: iteration of this stuff.

2651
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:46,320
Speaker 3: Jason, So yeah, I do too, And I know we're

2652
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 3: gonna talk to Bernie and would be able to, you know,

2653
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:51,040
Speaker 3: get his feelings on all this as well. I think

2654
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:53,000
Speaker 3: the biggest issue, and we know this right now and

2655
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 3: we can take this into the break, is that there's

2656
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 3: no one in charge. There's no one in charge that

2657
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:01,800
Speaker 3: can kind of keep this this whole thing together. We've

2658
02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:04,760
Speaker 3: used that wild wild West analogy about a trillion times

2659
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years as this whole thing

2660
02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 3: has exploded, But there is no governing authority that actually matters.

2661
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:17,880
Speaker 3: There is no one that can actually set up a structure,

2662
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:21,640
Speaker 3: some kind of organization where this doesn't just turn into

2663
02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 3: highest bidder or what have you done for me lately?

2664
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:28,720
Speaker 3: Or almost ransom notes. And I don't know how that changes,

2665
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:31,240
Speaker 3: because it's so far down the road right now. How

2666
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 3: do you pull it back in.

2667
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:36,720
Speaker 2: Well, the way it changes is that everybody splits the

2668
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:40,200
Speaker 2: money evenly, so that way you don't have incentive to

2669
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:43,520
Speaker 2: stab your colleagues in the back and steal their best teams.

2670
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:45,800
Speaker 2: But again, I don't.

2671
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:47,240
Speaker 3: Think anybody is easier said than done.

2672
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think again, I mean, just use the

2673
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:53,800
Speaker 2: common sense, Like the SEC is not going to decide, hey,

2674
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:56,320
Speaker 2: let's split this money evenly with the big twelve. It's

2675
02:15:56,360 --> 02:15:59,200
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. And I always crack up when people say, oh,

2676
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, we need a z are of college football.

2677
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:04,440
Speaker 2: It's like, well, until these conference commissioners stops stabbing each

2678
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:07,360
Speaker 2: other in the back, until these school presidents stops stabbing

2679
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:10,080
Speaker 2: their conferences in the back and start having negotiations with

2680
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:14,640
Speaker 2: these other leagues, that is not gonna happen. And I truly,

2681
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, I think everybody thinks this chaos is gonna

2682
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:19,320
Speaker 2: die die down soon. I don't think that it is.

2683
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Speaker 2: Bertiefredo Love the Bernie Fredoh Show joins us. You can

2699
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:18,000
Speaker 2: hear him at the top of the hour, Bernie, what's

2700
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 2: up man?

2701
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 3: How you doing?

2702
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,640
Speaker 12: You know I want to start tonight by asking you

2703
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,279
Speaker 12: guys a question because you're both very well connected.

2704
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:25,720
Speaker 6: College football.

2705
02:17:25,959 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 12: I've followed this game since Nixon was president, and look,

2706
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:31,440
Speaker 12: I've never seen it as volatile. So is this gonna

2707
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:33,840
Speaker 12: end up being a careful what you wish for? I'll

2708
02:17:33,879 --> 02:17:36,760
Speaker 12: tell you why I take Stanford to me. Stanford is

2709
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:40,400
Speaker 12: an elite academic brand and an athletic brand when you

2710
02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:43,200
Speaker 12: consider they have twenty seven sports and they do extremely

2711
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:46,320
Speaker 12: well in their Olympic country club sports as it were.

2712
02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:49,480
Speaker 12: But that requires a thirty million dollar budget. So for

2713
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 12: people to say, oh, let's just merge with the Mountain West, well,

2714
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:55,520
Speaker 12: those schools have about a four million dollar budget. It's

2715
02:17:55,560 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 12: not gonna work. So is this gonna end up being

2716
02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,120
Speaker 12: to be careful what you wish for?

2717
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 2: I'll jump in on that burn and I'll say this

2718
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:03,760
Speaker 2: is that first of all, I do think it's gonna

2719
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:05,360
Speaker 2: be be careful what you wish for. And I think

2720
02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:09,760
Speaker 2: outside of the monetary things. The thing that I keep

2721
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 2: going back to is, I've said it a million times,

2722
02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:17,240
Speaker 2: the old Herm Edwards quote. You play to win the

2723
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 2: game and fans don't get a cut of the check.

2724
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 2: There is no Oregon fan that picks up a voucher

2725
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:26,240
Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty bucks because they signed with

2726
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 2: the Big ten. That's not how this works. Like, so

2727
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 2: it comes down to, yes, there is a better, more

2728
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:36,440
Speaker 2: compelling product down the field, but Oregon is I looked

2729
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:37,840
Speaker 2: it up while we were on air. I think they've

2730
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:41,199
Speaker 2: won five pack twelve titles at pack ten pack twelve

2731
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:44,280
Speaker 2: titles in the last probably about ten twelve years. I mean, guys,

2732
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:46,200
Speaker 2: I'll toss it back to you. Either one of you

2733
02:18:46,280 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 2: can answer if I gave you an over under of

2734
02:18:48,879 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 2: like two in the next fifteen years, knowing that you're

2735
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:55,959
Speaker 2: gonna have to go through Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State,

2736
02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 2: and I get there's an expanded playoff. You're not gonna

2737
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 2: have to win the conference to make the playoff. But

2738
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:04,480
Speaker 2: I think the years of Oregon going eleven and one

2739
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:07,600
Speaker 2: in steamrolling seven out of their eleven opponents are done.

2740
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Same with Oklahoma.

2741
02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:13,680
Speaker 12: Go ahead, Well, I'll tell you everybody remembers Appalachian State

2742
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:14,760
Speaker 12: beating Michigan.

2743
02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:18,240
Speaker 6: The following week. Oregon went in there and.

2744
02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 12: Completely embarrassed Michigan. With Dennis Dixon at quarterback. Oregon went

2745
02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:26,000
Speaker 12: into Ohio State a couple of years ago and pushed

2746
02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:30,520
Speaker 12: him around the field. Oregon played Northwestern in the There

2747
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:34,360
Speaker 12: is no butt Michigan. Those Big ten defenses are going

2748
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:37,360
Speaker 12: to have trouble with Oregon's offense. So you ask a

2749
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:40,920
Speaker 12: very thoughtful question, It ain't going under. Oregon can win

2750
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,280
Speaker 12: two Big Ten titles in the next fifteen years.

2751
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:45,720
Speaker 3: Now to dot my mind, I think, so Bernie, Yeah,

2752
02:19:45,720 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 3: I Bernie, I was just gonna say this to the

2753
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:51,320
Speaker 3: money aspect. I was trying to find the actual quote.

2754
02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,279
Speaker 3: I kind of round about mentioned this earlier in the program.

2755
02:19:54,480 --> 02:19:58,640
Speaker 3: Past piscoal year PAC twelve distributed thirty seven million dollars

2756
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:01,840
Speaker 3: to members the Mountain West, which is where maybe in

2757
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,640
Speaker 3: Oregon state or Washington its state? Could Land? Do you

2758
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:06,600
Speaker 3: want to take a guest, Bernie, you're smart with numbers?

2759
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:10,480
Speaker 6: Where well among the whole conference.

2760
02:20:10,879 --> 02:20:13,160
Speaker 3: Like to each member of the Mountain. I think it's

2761
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:16,360
Speaker 3: four million per team six point six, so it's a

2762
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:19,520
Speaker 3: little better than four but it ain't thirty seven. Like

2763
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:23,280
Speaker 3: that's I don't even know what to say about that.

2764
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:27,640
Speaker 12: But you in Stanford should consider going independent. I know

2765
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:30,800
Speaker 12: for the states already had internal meetings. You got going

2766
02:20:30,879 --> 02:20:33,480
Speaker 12: in independent. They're pissed off about their thirty million.

2767
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:34,480
Speaker 6: That's not enough for them.

2768
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:38,360
Speaker 12: So this is gonna be crazy, stupid, and it's gonna

2769
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 12: work for football, and we're all gonna watch and look

2770
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 12: the Southwest Conference. I want to talk about this later

2771
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 12: in the show. Hey man, you guys all remember Earl

2772
02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:50,640
Speaker 12: Campbell and Low Holts and SMU and the Pony Express

2773
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:54,240
Speaker 12: and Eric Dickerson, Johnny Lamb Jones and Johnny Han. That

2774
02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:58,800
Speaker 12: was the Great Southwest Conference, which disbanded in nineteen ninety

2775
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 12: six after eat two years for.

2776
02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:01,840
Speaker 6: A simple reason.

2777
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:06,440
Speaker 12: All these schools started to get multimillion dollar budgets to operate,

2778
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:10,000
Speaker 12: and the Southwest Conference couldn't meet theirs because they didn't

2779
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 12: have a TV contract because it was proven if all

2780
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:14,199
Speaker 12: the schools were.

2781
02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 6: In Texas except one in Arkansas.

2782
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:20,320
Speaker 12: Arkansas went to the SEC, and that left a conference

2783
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 12: where it was proven they only had six percent of

2784
02:21:23,120 --> 02:21:24,280
Speaker 12: the nation's TV sets.

2785
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:26,960
Speaker 6: The conference just banded. We've got the same thing happening here.

2786
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Just as a historian of sports burned, like

2787
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 2: put aside, will it work? Will it not work? Who's

2788
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 2: gonna win? What do you just make of it? I mean,

2789
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:39,640
Speaker 2: you're a guy that grew up in southern California, lived

2790
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:41,360
Speaker 2: in the big ten foot print. I'm sure you've been

2791
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 2: to a million Rose Bowls.

2792
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:43,240
Speaker 3: In your time.

2793
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, just as a consumer of the sport, what have

2794
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,240
Speaker 2: you made in the last couple of days.

2795
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:48,920
Speaker 6: I don't love it.

2796
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:54,520
Speaker 12: The recent tradition works so much because people come to

2797
02:21:54,720 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 12: expect the anticipated excitement and the history that happen when

2798
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:03,000
Speaker 12: two schools get on the field and have history. But

2799
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:05,960
Speaker 12: I'm also a realist and a pragmatist. It's we're in

2800
02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:08,440
Speaker 12: a world that's adapt or die. We used to fight

2801
02:22:08,560 --> 02:22:11,520
Speaker 12: wars with a single shot rifle. In a couple of years,

2802
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,040
Speaker 12: they'll get this sorted out. Things have a way of

2803
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:16,440
Speaker 12: working out. I'll give the history of what happened to

2804
02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:19,520
Speaker 12: the sees. The Southwest Confidence ended up having a pretty

2805
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 12: happy ending. Actually, well, not that kind of happen never mind.

2806
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,840
Speaker 12: The bottom line is this, guys, give it a couple

2807
02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:25,240
Speaker 12: of years.

2808
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:26,160
Speaker 6: It's all new.

2809
02:22:26,760 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 12: This is an incredible shock to the system. Three weeks

2810
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:34,560
Speaker 12: before kickoff on week zero and I was on the

2811
02:22:34,600 --> 02:22:37,280
Speaker 12: phone a little bit today. We're really lucky this didn't

2812
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:39,840
Speaker 12: happen last year. It should have happened last year. And

2813
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:42,119
Speaker 12: the reason it did is because the Pac twelve kept

2814
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:44,640
Speaker 12: dangling this carrot. We're gonna get a TV contract. We're

2815
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:46,600
Speaker 12: gonna get a TV contract. We're gonna get a TV.

2816
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:47,640
Speaker 6: And it never happened.

2817
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:51,280
Speaker 12: They showed the carrot got the stick and frankly, you

2818
02:22:51,360 --> 02:22:53,440
Speaker 12: gott to trace this back to everybody, says, well, you

2819
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:54,480
Speaker 12: want to find someone to blame.

2820
02:22:54,600 --> 02:22:55,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Larry Scott.

2821
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:58,119
Speaker 12: He wanted to run a TV network and he wanted

2822
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,160
Speaker 12: to keep the money and this didn't work out, and

2823
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:01,000
Speaker 12: they're paying the price.

2824
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Bernie, you send us a message sometimes you let us

2825
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,520
Speaker 3: know what you might have on tap and which what

2826
02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:09,480
Speaker 3: we could ask you about that might be a little

2827
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:12,039
Speaker 3: off the beaten path. And look, the game took place

2828
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:13,800
Speaker 3: a few days ago. But I'm going back to this

2829
02:23:13,959 --> 02:23:16,000
Speaker 3: because I just want to hear the rationale for it

2830
02:23:16,120 --> 02:23:18,680
Speaker 3: says I'm on the Jets big for tonight. Yeah, for

2831
02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:22,120
Speaker 3: the NFL Hall of Fame game. I will explain why.

2832
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,120
Speaker 3: I would just like to hear it.

2833
02:23:24,760 --> 02:23:26,760
Speaker 12: So this and by the way, this turned out to

2834
02:23:26,800 --> 02:23:29,600
Speaker 12: be a heavily bet game by the pros. Cleveland opened

2835
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:31,680
Speaker 12: up two and a half and swung all the way

2836
02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,520
Speaker 12: to the Jets land two by kickoff. I got the

2837
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 12: Jets had pick him. Thought I was looking good when

2838
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:38,520
Speaker 12: it was thirteen to nothing. I take my medicine. Here's

2839
02:23:38,560 --> 02:23:41,879
Speaker 12: the rationale and that as we get to the preseason.

2840
02:23:42,320 --> 02:23:45,280
Speaker 12: As we've talked about, it's the one sport where you've

2841
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:47,400
Speaker 12: got one team over here and one coach over here

2842
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:50,680
Speaker 12: who cares if they win, and the other coach they

2843
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:51,640
Speaker 12: don't really care if they.

2844
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:52,080
Speaker 3: Win or not.

2845
02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:56,720
Speaker 12: Interestingly enough, Kevin Stefanski two days before the game said

2846
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:58,520
Speaker 12: he didn't care if he win the game. As a

2847
02:23:58,600 --> 02:24:00,600
Speaker 12: matter of fact, when you look at the court backroom,

2848
02:24:00,959 --> 02:24:04,400
Speaker 12: obviously Deshaun Watson wasn't gonna play. They didn't even dress

2849
02:24:04,520 --> 02:24:07,720
Speaker 12: Joshua Dobbs, so they were going with Kellen Mond, who

2850
02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:10,680
Speaker 12: might be one of the biggest busts in history, and

2851
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:13,959
Speaker 12: then Dorian Thompson Robinson, a fifth round draft pick. Meanwhile,

2852
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:17,480
Speaker 12: the quarterback room, obviously Rogers wasn't gonna play, but Zach

2853
02:24:17,560 --> 02:24:21,320
Speaker 12: Wilson's actually won games in the NFL, Tim Boyle, who's

2854
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 12: been a starter in the NFL and had an NFL experience,

2855
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 12: and Chris Streveler who's also got real NFL experience and

2856
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:30,400
Speaker 12: last year in the preseason completed twenty four and thirty three,

2857
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 12: two hundred and eighty yards five touchdowns.

2858
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:34,680
Speaker 6: So the quarterback room.

2859
02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:38,240
Speaker 12: In the second half was tremendously better than what Cleveland

2860
02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:40,880
Speaker 12: brought out there, and it completely backfired. So we go

2861
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:44,520
Speaker 12: from leading sixteen to seven and losing twenty one to sixteen. However,

2862
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:48,080
Speaker 12: we're gonna get right back on that same theory. Here's

2863
02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:50,480
Speaker 12: another game next week for you guys to keep track

2864
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 12: of Super Bowl losers who play in their first preseason

2865
02:24:54,920 --> 02:24:58,080
Speaker 12: game in the last thirty years six and twenty four

2866
02:24:58,120 --> 02:25:00,920
Speaker 12: against the spread. That would be Philodel And who are

2867
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:03,800
Speaker 12: they going up against? The Baltimore Ravens who've won twenty

2868
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:05,840
Speaker 12: three in a row, twenty one and two against his

2869
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:10,680
Speaker 12: bread and we all know how much John Harbaugh wants

2870
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:13,280
Speaker 12: to win, and Nick Sirianni doesn't give a flip. So

2871
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:17,240
Speaker 12: that was the rationale Jason one. You know, one team

2872
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 12: had far more incentive by what they said, and a

2873
02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:21,480
Speaker 12: much better quarterback room.

2874
02:25:21,959 --> 02:25:24,680
Speaker 2: He is Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Fratto Show. You

2875
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:27,800
Speaker 2: can hear him in exactly twenty six minutes from now

2876
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:30,960
Speaker 2: the top of the hour following us, Bernie, we gotta

2877
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:33,000
Speaker 2: let you go because we gotta let you get ready.

2878
02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:33,400
Speaker 3: For your show.

2879
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time. Man, We'll talk soon.

2880
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, enjoy your Sunday.

2881
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:40,040
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Fratto Show. Bernie,

2882
02:25:40,040 --> 02:25:42,680
Speaker 2: by the way, we'll have some live sports during his show.

2883
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:45,400
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that and of course some more of what

2884
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:48,199
Speaker 2: Bernie said. But first news desth to Sega for is yours.

2885
02:25:48,400 --> 02:25:50,680
Speaker 7: And as you guys mentioned, I would be careful to

2886
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:54,880
Speaker 7: all college football fans to be so dogmatic as to say, oh,

2887
02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 7: I know how team X is gonna do at a

2888
02:25:57,080 --> 02:25:59,800
Speaker 7: new conference. Let's remember a decade ago when Texas A

2889
02:25:59,800 --> 02:26:02,879
Speaker 7: and at number one, Alabama completely out of the blue

2890
02:26:02,920 --> 02:26:07,440
Speaker 7: with Johnny Manziel and Missouri. Missouri was in the SEC

2891
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:09,600
Speaker 7: Football Championship game in back.

2892
02:26:09,520 --> 02:26:11,600
Speaker 8: To back years Grace that decade ago.

2893
02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:14,520
Speaker 7: A last reminder at the Women's World Cup in the

2894
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:17,680
Speaker 7: round of sixteen, the US plays Sweden five am Eastern

2895
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:21,200
Speaker 7: Time on Fox TV. Rose level is out after two

2896
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,440
Speaker 7: yellow cards. A couple of years ago, Sweden beat the

2897
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 7: US three to nothing at the Olympics in Tokyo, and

2898
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 7: at the twenty sixteen Reo Olympics, Sweden eliminated the US

2899
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:31,880
Speaker 7: in a quarterfinal. In fact, Sweden's the only nation to

2900
02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 7: finish in the top three in each of the last

2901
02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:36,800
Speaker 7: three big events, second at the last Olympics. They were

2902
02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 7: third at the last World Cup, second place at the

2903
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:42,600
Speaker 7: Real Olympics. The winner of this matchup will face Japan

2904
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:46,080
Speaker 7: in a quarterfinal. Japan beat Norway three to one. Japan

2905
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:48,760
Speaker 7: now four to zero in this tournament, outscoring its opponents

2906
02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:52,879
Speaker 7: so far fourteen to one. Spain eliminated Switzerland five to one,

2907
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:55,480
Speaker 7: outshot him twenty six to two. In the match, Spain

2908
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:58,360
Speaker 7: had seventy percent of the possession. The Swiss had posted

2909
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:02,320
Speaker 7: three shutouts. Will now face Spain in a quarterfinal. The

2910
02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:05,280
Speaker 7: Dutch had seventy percent of the possession tonight on Fox

2911
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:08,960
Speaker 7: and shut out South Africa two to nothing. As for

2912
02:27:09,080 --> 02:27:12,320
Speaker 7: the MLB News, the late game had Seattle holding on

2913
02:27:12,520 --> 02:27:15,160
Speaker 7: to beat the Angels three two in Anaheim, Halos have

2914
02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:18,400
Speaker 7: lost five straight. The Angels record is fifty six and

2915
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:21,360
Speaker 7: fifty six. They trail for the final ALE wild card

2916
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:22,680
Speaker 7: by six games.

2917
02:27:22,760 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 3: Now.

2918
02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:26,440
Speaker 7: Mariners two and a half back San Diego on FS

2919
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:29,040
Speaker 7: one beat the rival Dodgers eight to three with seven

2920
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:31,360
Speaker 7: runs in the bottom of the A's Manny Machado a

2921
02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:34,879
Speaker 7: home run and three RBIs Dodgers four game winning streak

2922
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,520
Speaker 7: ends LA is first in the NL West. Three games

2923
02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:40,840
Speaker 7: out of San Francisco. Oakland beat the Giants two to one.

2924
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:43,800
Speaker 7: Giants offense held to just three hits and a run

2925
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:45,480
Speaker 7: in the bottom of the eighth got the home team

2926
02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:48,640
Speaker 7: will win. The a's attendance thirty seven thousand to.

2927
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:52,199
Speaker 8: See him beat the Giants. Today, a's record now thirty

2928
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:53,160
Speaker 8: one and eighty.

2929
02:27:53,720 --> 02:27:56,240
Speaker 7: Saint Louis six to two over Colorado, and the White

2930
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:58,279
Speaker 7: Sox won seven to four at Cleveland.

2931
02:27:58,320 --> 02:27:59,640
Speaker 8: There was a fight in the sixth inning.

2932
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:03,120
Speaker 7: Jose Ramirez knockdown White Sox short stop Tim Anderson with

2933
02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:03,560
Speaker 7: a punch.

2934
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:05,280
Speaker 8: Yes, both were kicked out back to here.

2935
02:28:06,879 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

2936
02:28:09,640 --> 02:28:12,880
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Ara Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

2937
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:17,480
Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. By the way, one last

2938
02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:22,040
Speaker 2: put a bow on this college football stuff. Fernando Mania

2939
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:24,320
Speaker 2: Part two is sending a few good tweets I want

2940
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:28,280
Speaker 2: to address here. He's we're talking about, obviously the realignment

2941
02:28:28,400 --> 02:28:32,160
Speaker 2: and what's gonna happen. What's the next iteration? He says?

2942
02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:35,560
Speaker 2: To complicate this even further, schools, especially lower tier ones,

2943
02:28:35,560 --> 02:28:38,560
Speaker 2: will have to navigate TV and conference realignment with Title nine.

2944
02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:42,000
Speaker 2: If they can't support football, how can they support anything else?

2945
02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:46,240
Speaker 2: And so this is another byproduct of everything that's going on.

2946
02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Jason is you know, like I'll give you an example

2947
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:53,520
Speaker 2: is you know my mi alma mater, Yukon, they were

2948
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:55,760
Speaker 2: actually you know, some thought they had a chance to

2949
02:28:55,800 --> 02:28:58,000
Speaker 2: go to the Big twelve. Why bring it up is

2950
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:01,640
Speaker 2: they are an independent in football. And you know people say, oh,

2951
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, just just get rid of football. I mean,

2952
02:29:03,640 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, you're never gonna be good a football whatever.

2953
02:29:05,680 --> 02:29:08,480
Speaker 2: It's like, Well, here's the thing you get rid of football,

2954
02:29:08,879 --> 02:29:10,960
Speaker 2: that's eighty five scholarships. You got to get rid of

2955
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:15,680
Speaker 2: four women's sports to match the scholarship output. Yes, and

2956
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:19,480
Speaker 2: so there are so many layers to this, And Fernando

2957
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Mania also brings up another good point where he says

2958
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:24,360
Speaker 2: schools will have to decide between keeping football and pretty

2959
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:27,200
Speaker 2: much everything else. It may not be able to be both,

2960
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:30,680
Speaker 2: which again would obviously be counter to the title nine stuff.

2961
02:29:30,720 --> 02:29:34,520
Speaker 2: But it's just so complicated, Jason, and I don't know

2962
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:39,039
Speaker 2: how soon we get there, but I do think that listen,

2963
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:40,959
Speaker 2: if you're in the SEC, if you're in the Big ten,

2964
02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:44,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna be fine. If you're not, though, and maybe

2965
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:46,520
Speaker 2: the Big twelve survives, but the ACC is on the

2966
02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:49,000
Speaker 2: verge of crumbling. And there's some schools that have value

2967
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:51,520
Speaker 2: to other conferences, but they're schools that don't have value

2968
02:29:51,520 --> 02:29:56,240
Speaker 2: to other conferences. I just bring it up because I again,

2969
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:57,800
Speaker 2: I know we're kind of beating a dead horse here.

2970
02:29:57,840 --> 02:30:00,040
Speaker 2: I just think everything's on the table from the so

2971
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,880
Speaker 2: the rich continuing to get richer. I think we could

2972
02:30:02,879 --> 02:30:05,640
Speaker 2: see contraction of some of these major conferences. And I

2973
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:08,880
Speaker 2: do think in our lifetimes we will see some schools

2974
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:12,200
Speaker 2: that are now playing quote unquote major college football be

2975
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,480
Speaker 2: forced to drop it because maybe it's not this version

2976
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:19,120
Speaker 2: with Washington State, Oregon State, Callen Stanford, But what happens

2977
02:30:19,160 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 2: when the ACC breaks up, what happens if there's eventual

2978
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:24,600
Speaker 2: contraction in other conferences? It's just I think everything is

2979
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 2: on the table. Those two tweets very well encapsulate just

2980
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 2: this very turbulent time in college sports that I don't

2981
02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:32,600
Speaker 2: think is going away anytime soon.

2982
02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:35,160
Speaker 3: No, it's not. I mean, this is I don't know.

2983
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:38,119
Speaker 3: I would say it's gonna get more crazy. I don't

2984
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:41,320
Speaker 3: really know how it can because so many of the

2985
02:30:41,320 --> 02:30:43,640
Speaker 3: big brands have now been swallowed up. Now we're gonna

2986
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:47,440
Speaker 3: see something, whether it's somebody going independent or you know,

2987
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 3: Florida State exploring options, and maybe there's a few other

2988
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:53,520
Speaker 3: Florida states out there that could try to drum up

2989
02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:55,880
Speaker 3: the same kind of deal. I don't know. I mean,

2990
02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,240
Speaker 3: there's so many different things that we're going to have

2991
02:30:59,360 --> 02:31:03,160
Speaker 3: to start paying attention to to cover college football, in

2992
02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:07,240
Speaker 3: particular with NIL, with everything that's going to be happening

2993
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 3: on these campuses, with whatever might start to you might

2994
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:14,640
Speaker 3: start to hear conversations about some of the schools that

2995
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:18,119
Speaker 3: aren't pulling their weight, however you want to define weight

2996
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, being in a little bit of

2997
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:23,119
Speaker 3: trouble or being on the outs here and there. There's

2998
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:25,800
Speaker 3: just going to be so many different discussions they're going

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02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:28,080
Speaker 3: to be had that aren't going to even have to

3000
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:31,480
Speaker 3: do with what's happening on the field. And then we're

3001
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:32,960
Speaker 3: going to have to see what the product looks like.

3002
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:34,960
Speaker 3: And I think generally the product is going to be

3003
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot better, but it's also going to be a

3004
02:31:38,959 --> 02:31:42,960
Speaker 3: lot more samy. There was a difference in the way

3005
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:46,960
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve looked from the way the SEC looked,

3006
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:50,199
Speaker 3: and I think that a lot of those differences, even

3007
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:52,840
Speaker 3: the style differences, the way that you could win games

3008
02:31:52,879 --> 02:31:54,880
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve that you couldn't win in the

3009
02:31:54,959 --> 02:31:57,920
Speaker 3: Big Ten, for example, a lot of those things are

3010
02:31:57,959 --> 02:32:02,320
Speaker 3: being eliminated here as well. And I think that's more

3011
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:05,480
Speaker 3: to the NFL point that you made earlier, is it's

3012
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:08,199
Speaker 3: all just gonna kind of be It's gonna be different schools,

3013
02:32:08,360 --> 02:32:10,000
Speaker 3: but a lot of it is gonna look a lot

3014
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:13,240
Speaker 3: more similar across the country, a lot more uniform than

3015
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:16,200
Speaker 3: it has a lot of the regional differences, not just

3016
02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:20,240
Speaker 3: from a geographical standpoint, but from an actual style a

3017
02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:24,160
Speaker 3: scheme standpoint, those are gonna be kind of deteriorating as well.

3018
02:32:25,600 --> 02:32:28,320
Speaker 2: Again, we will continue to watch the games. We're not

3019
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:29,080
Speaker 2: saying that we will.

3020
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 3: Oh you, We're definitely gonna be watching the games.

3021
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 2: But the sport is going to look fundamentally different. Fox

3022
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air toors Jason Martin live from the Tireck

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Speaker 9: And another household double right over the bag at first

3027
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 9: Now Holdsey and Anderson square off. They're fighting, They're swinging down,

3028
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Speaker 9: goes Anderson, goes Anderson. Ramirez went in with a head

3029
02:33:06,879 --> 02:33:10,800
Speaker 9: first slide. Hosey never gets upset about anything.

3030
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Speaker 6: They came up chewing.

3031
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Speaker 9: Anderson squared off, Hosey dectum. It's a five to one

3032
02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:26,280
Speaker 9: Chicago lead, but everybody from the Dugouts and the Bullpence

3033
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:33,160
Speaker 9: congregated around second base. You never see Jose Ramirez get

3034
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:34,320
Speaker 9: upset like that.

3035
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Speaker 2: seen the video of Jose Ramirez slugging no pun intended,

3042
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Speaker 2: Tim Anderson, give it a look. It's all over social media.

3043
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's on TV as well. Jason. I do

3044
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:12,760
Speaker 2: really quickly want to talk Anthony Davis, but before we do,

3045
02:34:13,480 --> 02:34:15,520
Speaker 2: one last I swear I don't want to keep talking

3046
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 2: this college sports stuff. But Kevin weeber tweets in he says,

3047
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:21,720
Speaker 2: in an ideal world, there's a top tier of teams

3048
02:34:22,200 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 2: that's sixty four. We call it the FBS, a second

3049
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:28,039
Speaker 2: tier of sixty four teams, FBS be a third tier FCS,

3050
02:34:28,360 --> 02:34:30,959
Speaker 2: on and on and on and on. I don't think

3051
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:33,280
Speaker 2: we end up at sixty four. I think it's a

3052
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:34,600
Speaker 2: significantly yeah.

3053
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:36,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a season about half that, maybe not

3054
02:34:36,760 --> 02:34:37,360
Speaker 3: even half that.

3055
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:39,520
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I mean, if you think about

3056
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:43,039
Speaker 2: it now, right, SEC's at sixteen, Big ten is at

3057
02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:48,160
Speaker 2: eighteen that's thirty to thirty four. You know, there's a

3058
02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:50,200
Speaker 2: few teams at the Big twelve, there's Notre Dame. There's

3059
02:34:50,200 --> 02:34:52,840
Speaker 2: a few teams in the ACC. But you know, and

3060
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,480
Speaker 2: and again, I think to a conversation that we've had

3061
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:58,000
Speaker 2: is I think some of those teams, even in the

3062
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:01,320
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big ten, could eventually get squeezed out.

3063
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:04,440
Speaker 2: So fascinating time in college sports. If you missed any

3064
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:06,920
Speaker 2: of the conversation we basically talked about it throughout the show,

3065
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:10,720
Speaker 2: make sure to download the podcast Jason really quickly. One

3066
02:35:10,840 --> 02:35:13,320
Speaker 2: little piece of NBA news over the last couple of

3067
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:16,400
Speaker 2: days not what we were expecting. We've obviously talked a

3068
02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:19,080
Speaker 2: lot about Dame Lillard, We've talked a lot about James Harden.

3069
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:24,720
Speaker 2: But yesterday Anthony Davis a three year, one one hundred

3070
02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 2: eighty six million dollar extension. He will have the largest

3071
02:35:31,800 --> 02:35:35,560
Speaker 2: it's the largest ever in terms of annual salary, sixty.

3072
02:35:35,320 --> 02:35:36,760
Speaker 3: Eight million I think a year.

3073
02:35:37,720 --> 02:35:40,200
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. I mean, I guess you know,

3074
02:35:40,360 --> 02:35:43,120
Speaker 2: by the time it kicks in, Lebron James will probably

3075
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:46,360
Speaker 2: be gone or definitely at the tailtale tail end. A

3076
02:35:46,400 --> 02:35:48,200
Speaker 2: lot of money for Anthony Davis, We'll see if he

3077
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:48,680
Speaker 2: lives up to it.

3078
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:52,280
Speaker 3: Chase, Yeah, I mean when he's healthy, you know what

3079
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 3: he can be. There's a little bit of it, well

3080
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:59,080
Speaker 3: not a little. There's a decent amount of inconsistency from

3081
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:03,720
Speaker 3: night tonight, or certainly from week to week or chunk

3082
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:08,440
Speaker 3: to chunk when it comes to Anthony Davis. But there

3083
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:11,600
Speaker 3: are moments where he's worth anything that he asked for,

3084
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:14,959
Speaker 3: and the Lakers weren't going to do very much without

3085
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:17,600
Speaker 3: him in this scenario. They need him as part of

3086
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:21,400
Speaker 3: what they are trying to build. Lebron is coming towards

3087
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:24,800
Speaker 3: the end and Anthony Davis is either going to be

3088
02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:27,480
Speaker 3: the centerpiece or this is going to be just a

3089
02:36:27,560 --> 02:36:29,800
Speaker 3: deal that bridges him to whatever's going to be the

3090
02:36:29,920 --> 02:36:33,560
Speaker 3: end of his career. I pretty much when I saw this,

3091
02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:35,840
Speaker 3: it's just like, yeah, okay, Like if you would talk

3092
02:36:35,879 --> 02:36:38,680
Speaker 3: to me before this season and we'd have been having

3093
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:40,520
Speaker 3: this conversation, I don't know how it would have felt

3094
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 3: about it. But watching how it played out, I'm not

3095
02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:45,160
Speaker 3: sure that I'm upsetting the Apple card either. When it

3096
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:47,920
Speaker 3: comes to the Lakers, considering what happened with them after

3097
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,360
Speaker 3: the trade deadline and the way things have gone for

3098
02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 3: him in the off season. I feel pretty good about

3099
02:36:53,080 --> 02:36:54,520
Speaker 3: the team that they're going to be putting on the

3100
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:56,480
Speaker 3: floor in the fall, and I'm not sure I want

3101
02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:57,160
Speaker 3: to shake that up.

3102
02:36:57,840 --> 02:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one again, and like it's just hard for

3103
02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:04,080
Speaker 2: me to have a take like it's it's It's like

3104
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:06,960
Speaker 2: to me, it's like the NFL quarterback contracts, right is

3105
02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:09,520
Speaker 2: the next guy is gonna get a little bit more

3106
02:37:09,560 --> 02:37:11,400
Speaker 2: than the last guy. And that's what it is. And

3107
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:14,240
Speaker 2: so no, I'm not gonna freak out when Josh Allen

3108
02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:16,680
Speaker 2: gets this much, Lamar Jackson gets that much or whatever.

3109
02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Now there's extenuating circumstances. Deshaun Watson two hundred whatever million guaranteed.

3110
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:24,760
Speaker 2: H that was an outlier, but it's kind of the

3111
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:27,280
Speaker 2: same here. Is like it's a lot of money, but

3112
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:29,720
Speaker 2: guess what, in a week or a month, somebody else

3113
02:37:29,840 --> 02:37:33,200
Speaker 2: is gonna get a different extension and it's gonna be

3114
02:37:33,280 --> 02:37:36,360
Speaker 2: for more. So it's interesting and I do think it

3115
02:37:36,440 --> 02:37:38,119
Speaker 2: sets up the Lakers nicely. But I think the Lakers

3116
02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:40,920
Speaker 2: are set up nicely anyway. Thanks to some of the

3117
02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,640
Speaker 2: stuff that Rob Polinka did. We talked about it all

3118
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:46,680
Speaker 2: throughout the spring. You could be a critical of the Lakers,

3119
02:37:46,720 --> 02:37:49,120
Speaker 2: you could be critical of Lebron whatever. They were a

3120
02:37:49,200 --> 02:37:51,680
Speaker 2: really good team. They were probably the second best team

3121
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:53,800
Speaker 2: in the NBA by the end of the year. Took

3122
02:37:54,200 --> 02:37:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, got swept by the Nuggets, but the Nuggets

3123
02:37:56,520 --> 02:38:00,640
Speaker 2: just ran through the NBA playoffs. So so yeah, anything

3124
02:38:00,720 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 2: else that we miss, Jason. We're starting to wind down

3125
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:04,200
Speaker 2: as we get ready for Bernie here at the top

3126
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:04,560
Speaker 2: the hour.

3127
02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:06,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I know he's gonna pick up the slack.

3128
02:38:06,840 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, we spend a whole lot of time

3129
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:12,240
Speaker 3: on college and that's to be expected. We're about to

3130
02:38:12,360 --> 02:38:15,280
Speaker 3: jump into the preseason and you know, you're starting to see,

3131
02:38:15,400 --> 02:38:17,879
Speaker 3: hey man, Timver, we've already we're already down two wide

3132
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:22,720
Speaker 3: receivers now going into the year already. I am hopeful

3133
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:26,000
Speaker 3: that the preseason is not going to really water down

3134
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:29,400
Speaker 3: the NFL year. I know, you know, with the one

3135
02:38:29,480 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 3: fewer game. I'm just hoping people stay healthy as we

3136
02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:35,920
Speaker 3: get more into the practice schedule and everything else. I

3137
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:38,160
Speaker 3: don't want to see that be the story of this year.

3138
02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:42,240
Speaker 3: I want to see everybody healthy, and especially these rookie quarterbacks,

3139
02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:46,080
Speaker 3: these younger quarterbacks. The league needs them. I'm looking forward

3140
02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:47,440
Speaker 3: to to really being able.

3141
02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 2: To dive in and start watching some of those a

3142
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:52,160
Speaker 2: lot to peel back, a lot to get into. By

3143
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:54,520
Speaker 2: the way, you're Denver Broncos playing their starters, Jason, how

3144
02:38:54,520 --> 02:38:55,960
Speaker 2: about that? Did you see that story?

3145
02:38:56,240 --> 02:39:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like imagine Nathaniel Hackett had been russ suit up.

3146
02:39:01,040 --> 02:39:03,360
Speaker 3: But Sean Payton says that it's gonna happen. I know

3147
02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:06,440
Speaker 3: he broke the code, Nate and he had Aaron Rodgers.

3148
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:09,160
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. I'm still not fully over it.

3149
02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't like what he necessarily said about the Jets,

3150
02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:15,600
Speaker 3: but breaking a code and all this whatever. Man, Sean

3151
02:39:15,640 --> 02:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Payton knew exactly what he was doing, and I'm fine

3152
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:18,280
Speaker 3: with it.

3153
02:39:18,680 --> 02:39:19,959
Speaker 2: We gotta get out of here. I want to thank

3154
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:23,800
Speaker 2: the crew, producer Pat, producer Pat Chris on the board,

3155
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,359
Speaker 2: Steve de Sega from a partner, Jason Martin, I'm meritorus.

3156
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3157
02:39:27,160 --> 02:39:30,480
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