1 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: No, the sky is not falling. The Browns are one 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and two. The world is not ending. We all got 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: up this morning, put our pants on, aime to work, 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: and we're getting ready. I do have pants on. It's good. 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay. I'm Jason Gibbs, He's Nick Shook, 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: He's Andrew Grippled. This is the best podcast available, wrapping 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: up a week three Sunday Night football loss to the 8 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. The world is not ending. We are 9 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: one in two. We are not where we want to be. 10 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Are clearly the fan base is not thinking is thinking 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: the same thing that we're not where we want to be. 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: But all is not terrible. All there's some things that 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: were good and there are some things that this team 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: has to tweet gribble uh for takeaway on the Sunday 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: Night loss. I think it's all about what you expect 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: from your team and what you expected going into this season. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: I think if I would have if we would have 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: said before the season, if this, what would you think 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: is happening? If this team was one and two after 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: three games, and I would have thought, oh, the defense 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: might be having some issues against the Rams, and might 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: you might have blown a game late and one of 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: these other ones. But really, I think that's been even 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: the root of some of this extended frustration among fans 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: is that it's what everyone was banking on being so good, 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: which was the offense, is what's been your biggest problem. 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: And I think that's what UH is frustrating. And I 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: think after a game like last night, you show that 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: you belong on the same field as the Rams, You 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: show that you put yourself in position to potentially win 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the game, or when you look at the statue, probably 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: should have won the game, UH, even as shorthanded as 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: you were on defense. But it was the thing that 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: you thought all along was going to be strength, which 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: has ultimately been your weakness through three games. And I 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: think that's what has people frustrated, because you know, you've 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: got what you believe is a good quarterback, talent to 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers, and a coach that really impressed people with 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: play calling last year, and none of that's kind of 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: presented itself through three games. And that's why one and 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: two doesn't feel as good as it maybe could have felt. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: If you're off, you're scoring a lot of points but 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: also given up a lot of points and strange. We've 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: been to two games at First Energy Stadium and both 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: for the duration of most of those two games, it 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: just felt like the fans of the Saium have just 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: been waiting on the edge of their seats to explode, 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: like they want that big play to happen offensively, and 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: it really hasn't happened. And they got a little bit 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: closer last night. The screen passed to to Nick Chubb 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: to kind of put the Browns in the red zone, 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: got the crowd going, and then you got a pastor 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: friends called to put you on the goal line, you 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: score touchdown. You know that all worked out well, but 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: it's still has not been there enough. And I think 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: that's the largest takeaway from from the offensive performance is 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: you're getting like baby steps, but they're really hard to 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: notice in the bigger picture because you're playing a team 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: like the to The Browns defense did really well against 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and in limiting, but you're playing a team like the Ramps, 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: who can find Cooper cup wide open over the middle 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: of the field for a game of twenty five or 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: thirty and and this offense cannot do the same thing, 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: even though it has as good as as as talented, 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: if not more talented receivers. So it's frustrating for the fan. 66 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: But if you look really closely, you can see small 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: incremental stuffs. But it's definitely, and Freddie kind of said 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: this today too, it's definitely a learning process and it's 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: an adjustment that even though a lot of these guys 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: were together last year, you still to figure out what 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: works best and what you should do in certain situations. 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: The game by game process where you're slowly figuring out, Okay, 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: in this situation, I should run the fall or this, 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: in this situation, we should go with a short past 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: or a long past, or try to take a shot 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: or not try to take a shot situationally and based 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: on your opponent. It's just something that they're slowly starting 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: to get together. It almost hurts more than getting beat 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: by thirty disagree. See I do disagree, because you're right 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: there and the game was there for the taking. It's tough. 81 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: I did see improvement and progress us, But like in 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when I'm packing up gear because we're 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: getting man handled, that that that's that is what it is. Yeah, 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: And maybe it's because I've seen it so much in 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: the last seven years and that those kinds of losses 86 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: are demoralizing, though. This is something even though you lost 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: by a touchdown and you had a chance to tie 88 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: it at the end of the game and couldn't do it, 89 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: you still have a lot of positives to take away 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: from this. And let's face it, this is a team 91 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: that won the NFC last year, had that put enough 92 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: up enough points and had a good enough defense to 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: go all the way to the Super Bowl, but before 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: they lost to the Patriots in a game that was, 95 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, just an excellent game plan on the part 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick. No surprise there. So this is a 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: pretty good I mean, if you need a litmus test, 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good one. You should be really encouraged, 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: especially considering the fact that half of your defense was 100 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: not healthy. I mean, you're missing seven starters total. You played, yeah, 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: you played really well despite those circumstances. You just didn't 102 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: come away with a win. This is about as close 103 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: as I think is you can get to a moral victory, 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's These losses are tougher in 105 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: the twenty four hours afterward to stomach, but a blowout 106 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: in this situation would have had us reevaluating everything about 107 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: this team going forward, because even when you have the 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: injuries that the Browns did, you can't go out there 109 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: and get blown out. Because we saw it in New York. 110 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Even though the Browns controlled that game, there were still 111 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: forty six NFL players on the other side of the field, 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: and they at least hung around. I made an instrum. 113 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL's designed. This is a parody 114 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: driven league. You shouldn't go out there and get routinely 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: blown out. And and that's why even the thirty point 116 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: lost the Titans was deceiving in that it was a 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: close game until things got out of hand. But if 118 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: had you gone out there and just not shown up 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: and the Rams just took advantage of your weaknesses, then 120 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: we'd be like, all right, so what is this team? 121 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: Is this a team that we should even be talking 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: about playoffs as a realistic goal or that's why this 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: loss hurts because you know that this one game could 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: mean the difference and you're making the playoffs. But now 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: it's like if you'd gone out there and gotten blown 126 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: out there, like you'd be thinking, why aren't we be 127 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: doing Jim Mora, why are we even like playoffs? Like 128 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: why are we even discussing that? Like? And that's and 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: to me, that's why, that's why it hurts more to 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: me because it was so close. It wasn't like I 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: would rather have gotten blown out. Absolutely not. After what 132 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: happened in week one, I don't want to experience that 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: again in two thousand and nineteen if that can be avoided. Um, 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: But it was one of those where you come so 135 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: close and literally you lay it online. I mean that 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: defensive line. They were sucking wind in the third quarter. 137 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever they could do to get those guys rest. 138 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: Thirty second time outs. I saw coaches rolling bottles of water, 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, water bottles out you know, because they weren't 140 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: allowed to run out on the field while because there 141 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: was a review going. They were literally like sneaking the 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: guy's bottles of water. Just not a lot of guys 143 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: played yesterday. Nick Chubb played all but two steps. That's 144 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: unheard of outrun. Are you are you concerned about that? No? 145 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: I mean I think it was one of those every 146 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: snap mattered kind of games and that that they all matter, 147 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: But it was like you really didn't have every possession 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: mattered because you were trying to slow down the game. 149 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Uh so, I think it was one of those they 150 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: were they they had a game plan to get him involved. 151 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I think Done here was still getting back from his concussion, 152 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and Dernis Johnson's your third back. But each of those 153 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: guys played one snap and they went with Nick Chubb 154 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: the whole way. And I've I've not seen a snap 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: count like that for running backs since I've been here. 156 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: And that's kind of to my point about you know, 157 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the offense and starting to slowly figure it out. Yeah, 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: they only scored thirteen points, but that's something that we 159 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: were calling for in week one, was why aren't you 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: running the ball more? And even to an extent last week. 161 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: So the fact that he's on the field that much 162 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: and that he got the amount of carriers you got, 163 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it was if I'm not mistaken, Um, you know, 164 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: that's showing that there are moving in the right direction. 165 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna be an incremental thing. It's not 166 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna happen overnight. Taking a look overall big picture, let's 167 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: get down to it. One takeaway from each of you 168 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: on the offense in last night's game, and in addition 169 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to that, give me your game ball for it. Could 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: be an offensive player, it could be an offensive coach, 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. I mean, I think my takeaway, 172 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I'll shed towards the positive because we're gonna spend the 173 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: rest of the week lamenting the negatives with this offense. 174 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: And I think that I think they may have discovered 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: a little something running the ball last night that they 176 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: can really build on. And so that's why I think 177 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb just had a really good game, really solid 178 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: performance from a game ball perspective, and I think that 179 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: when you look back on it, the ultimate regret is 180 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: you didn't run it more in the goal line when 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: you had a chance to tie the game up. And 182 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I think had you run there, maybe on second down, 183 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: you could have either just gotten that play out of 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: your system been like all right, now we're keeping them 185 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: off balance, or you could have gotten to the point 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: where maybe you score or you get to the one 187 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: yard line and that changes everything from a play calling perspective. 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: So that is the ultimate regret from this game. But 189 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: I think in in in the process, you found out 190 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: maybe that you can really start controlling this game with 191 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: with Nick Chubb, and I'm expecting more of that going forward. Yeah, 192 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I would agree, you know, not Tay kind 193 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: of just pee back office take away, But I mean 194 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the basis of success for you, I think. 195 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a good enough running back in 196 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Nick Chubby where you can given the ball times a 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: game and really establish your ground game. And I think 198 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: they did that, you know, to a certain extent last night. 199 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Probably not as successful as you'd wanted to be a 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: bit every you know, then again, this is a good 201 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: defense that they faced. I mean, I don't think we 202 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: give the Rams defense enough credit for how good they are, 203 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: and they are very good at making tackles in open 204 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: space and clogging up running lanes. And Nick still came 205 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: really close to a hundred yards rushing and it did 206 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: give the offense some balance. But then you have to 207 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: also compliment that with the passing game. You know, you 208 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: have to maybe be a little less ambitious in the 209 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: passing game. Now that's also goes back to their scheme 210 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: as well. You know, the Rams are very good at 211 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of doing what they're gonna show you pre snap, 212 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: but doing it really well. And I think that there 213 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: were times there, and this is without going back and 214 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: watching the game again, Yet there were times where it 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: seemed like the short pass was just completely taken away 216 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: and it was either we're going to trust our pass 217 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: rush to get there before your receivers can get open downfield, 218 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: and we'll take that every every time. And they have 219 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: the guys to do that, And I think that was 220 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the biggest struggle on the offensive side of the ball. 221 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: But again, the fact that you are recognizing that you 222 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: can run the football and need to run the football, 223 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: and then next time you find yourself inside the five 224 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: with the game on the line, you're probably gonna run 225 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: the football. You know it's gonna be worth it that 226 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: you took this loss this early in season. Game balls 227 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: anybody outside of Nick Chubb on the offensive side getting 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: your game ball. I mean, I'll give one of Demetris 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: Harris from making a tough catch in the back of 230 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: the end zone. Um. This is his first game as 231 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: the number one tight end in the absence of David Njoku, 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: who's on ire with a concussion and wrist injury, and um, 233 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: and you know this is something that this is why 234 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: he came here, was was to be you know, in 235 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: a larger role at tight end. After spending his first 236 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: four years of his career behind Travis Kelsey. I think 237 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: he did a decent job, not an excellent job, but 238 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: he made that catch, which was key, was tough catch 239 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: to make. Did not make the one uh in the 240 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: end zone late in the game when he was double covered. 241 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Kind of a tough play to make, but he you know, 242 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: he blocked pretty well for the most part. I think 243 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: he has a solid game, probably not one you would 244 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: think I would pick, but statistically, nobody really jumped off 245 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: the page. So I'll go with him because he made 246 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: a key play in a key moment. Anybody outside the show, 247 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think this is a low bar. 248 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean not a low bar, but like for the 249 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: interior of that offensive line to not let Aaron Donald 250 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: completely take over the game. I'm gonna give him some 251 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: credit there. And I know that. It's when you watch 252 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: the tape and you see that the biggest players that 253 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Donald made were against a Pro Bowl garden Joel Bottonio. 254 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: That's when you were, yeah, you respect what this guy 255 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: can do. I wouldn't say you completely shut him down, 256 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: but you didn't let him wreck the game and let 257 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: him take it over. But he definitely had a presence there, 258 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: so I I give the interior of the offensive line 259 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: some credit for holding their own against the best guy 260 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you know, in the larger picture, 261 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: I give them credit for not having not being much 262 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: of a weakness. I think, you know, through three games, 263 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: because this right guard was the big concern in the 264 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: off season, right it's a big concern camp And so 265 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: far air Cush has done his job, and he's worked 266 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: very well in tandem with j C. Tredder and Joe 267 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Bltonio and they've done a really good job. Now if 268 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: they could get some stability at tackle, you know, health wise, 269 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: then you know, you might see that issue start to 270 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of fade away and get some you know, consider 271 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: and see it from knock on glass or whatever. This is, 272 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: UH that will happen uh this week and Chris Howard 273 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be back on Sunday. We'll get an injury 274 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: update obviously when the team reconvenes on Wednesday. A takeaway 275 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: from the defense, A very very good defense last night 276 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football shook. We'll start with you, Um, 277 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, hats off to the guys who who were 278 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: not playing in the weeks prior. I mean an entirely 279 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: new secondary in a primetime game against a team that 280 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: had an explosive offense last season and has one has 281 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: had one so far this season as well. I mean, 282 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: they played well above their heads and they kept the 283 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Browns of the game from start to finish. They made plays, 284 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: they got takeaways. T J. Kerry with a nice interception, uh, 285 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: and then Justin Burrs with a very timely interception. Probably 286 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: could have taken that to the house if you'd been 287 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: able to step aside Joe Schobert there, so you know, 288 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: you could say what it could have should because ultimately, 289 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: ultimately it did not produce the points, but the defense 290 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: did its job and held up its end of the bargain. 291 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: Starting with the secondary. Yeah, I'll stick with the secondary 292 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: because I think this was the area that uh when 293 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: John Dorsey started, he looked at the group UH and 294 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: was basically, I need a completely new room of guys, 295 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: and that's what has been the process and he that 296 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: he went out and got. This was a two year 297 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: basically a project in that secondary to get you into 298 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the bision. You never anticipate having three members of your secondary, 299 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: two of two starters, going down in ten minutes on 300 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: the practice field, but you had that on top of 301 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: both of your safety is getting hurt in the previous 302 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: two weeks, but you were still fine, Like, I don't know, 303 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: you You're in a pretty good spot where you have 304 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Terrence Mitchell who was your star last year, 305 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: t J Carry, a four year, five year veteran who's 306 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: played in a lot of games on the other side, 307 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: and then you have a guy like Eric Murray who's 308 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: played a lot of football, Jermaine white Heads comfortable in 309 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: the system. Literally the only wild card was Justin Burris, 310 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: who was a waiver claim but had experience in the 311 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: defense as well playing it in the preseason. Yeah, so, 312 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean that was the one wild card who really 313 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: played out of his mind very well considering the circumstances. 314 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: But this was why you draft Greedy Williams in the 315 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: second round, even though you look at your secondary at 316 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: that time and think, oh, we've we've got our starters back, 317 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: We're okay, Like, no, you keep building because you know 318 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: you need these guys, because these guys get hurt. I 319 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: mean that it's just it's it's a natural thing in football. 320 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: You you were in such a good spot with your 321 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: secondary that you didn't even have to play Tavy or 322 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Thomas in this game. He didn't didn't he didn't play 323 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: a single snap, even though he's one of your corners. 324 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Robert Jackson didn't have to play. These guys all played 325 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: every snap and they played really well and to the 326 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: point where it's like Denzel and Greedy Williams when they 327 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: come back, that's great. But you can go into this 328 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: Ravens game saying, if this happens again, maybe we'd like 329 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: to get one of these safeties back, but we we 330 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: feel okay, game balls on the defensive side, this will 331 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: be a little more challenging. We'll start with you. This 332 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: is you know what I'm gonna go off the beaten 333 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: path here. I'm gonna go with Mack Wilson, and his 334 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: first start played like a guy who you could see 335 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: starting for many many weeks to come. Uh, you know, 336 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: in the absence of Christian cur gonna happen. Yeah, he 337 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: will be. Yeah, in the absence of Christie Kerzy, I 338 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: think he stepped up and played very well. You kind 339 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: of saw the natural football player and him come out, 340 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: which is why he was, you know, rate it so 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: high coming out of Alabama. Even though he slid the 342 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: fifth round and luckily Land ended up here. You know, 343 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: he he just looked like a guy who had been 344 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: there before, played into the lights before, and really embraced 345 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I think the moment. There were a couple of times 346 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: we might have played himself a little bit out of possession, 347 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: a little bit over aggressive, but for the most part, 348 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: he was there to make plays. He came really close 349 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: to coming up with interception, and he was pretty reliable 350 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: all night. So I'll give it to him first time 351 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: big moment and answered the call. I'll go with Larry Ogan. 352 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Job continues to fly to the radar. Got the second 353 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: sack of the season last night, and I thought that 354 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, outside of that opening drive of 355 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: the second half, you pretty much shut down Todd Gurley 356 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: in the Rams game. They had to become one dimensional 357 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: and they were only really good passing the ball. As 358 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: for the Rams, I don't know if they truly believe 359 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: in Todd Gurley the way they used to. They don't 360 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: throw them the ball. Yeah, they used him sparingly. He 361 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't really look he looked like a the average running 362 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: back yesterday. I think that was that's the way they've 363 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: been treating in this season. But I think the Browns 364 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: had something to do with that, and that the plays 365 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: they really didn't let him get loose. I don't think 366 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: he had a run of over ten yards in the 367 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: entire game. Uh So the credit goes to the middle 368 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: of the defensive defensive line, which I think ogen jobs 369 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: continue to prove that he's one of the better players 370 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: in that position. My game ball goes to Steve Wilkes, 371 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: what what an amazing job? Like I thought for sure 372 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: with you wearing your Ohio Bobcat shirt, it was going 373 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: to t J Kerrey Today you're in full suppert of 374 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: your boy, But I mean the job he did. When 375 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you think about three of our defensive backs going down 376 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: in the span of ten minutes on Thursday, which is 377 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: really the last day that you're practicing hard Friday, essentially 378 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: is a glorified walk through. There's a little bit, but 379 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: not anywhere closely. Yeah we have, yeah, we have, yeah, yeah, correct, 380 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: But on a on a Thursday, to have those three 381 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: guys go down and bringing guys in like Burris, asking 382 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the back end to your defense to to step up 383 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: and essentially play maybe the best group of wide receivers 384 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: or second best group of wide receivers in the National 385 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Football League and doing the job they did. Will should 386 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: get a lot of credit for this last night. I 387 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: think about the good fortune they had to even happened 388 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: for you to get Bursts. He was on the Raiders. 389 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: They had to cut him, They had to cut a 390 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: midweek for you to get him. I still don't understand that. Yeah, 391 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if I don't even know 392 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: were they even playing him as a as a safety 393 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and he used to be a corner. I don't know 394 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: if they viewed him as a corner. Yeah, he just 395 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: clearly clearly to Steve Wilkes, he's a safety and he 396 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: I thought he played really well. Basically, they went to 397 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: the game plan, not they're They're like, we'll we'll give 398 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: him ten yards at a time, but we're gonna make 399 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: them earn this and we're gonna wait for golf to 400 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: make a bad throw, and which is what they did. 401 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: And they never got beat. They never got beat over 402 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: the top, and that was that was the plan and 403 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: they executed it. Yeah, So a good job by the 404 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: defense special teams. Not a a lot to write about. 405 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good thing. Yeah, because the Scottish 406 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: hammer was under darrest a couple of times. He had 407 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: his first really bad punt of the season. Uh, that 408 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: could have did they score on at the after that drive. 409 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I don't believe so, but it 410 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: was that might have been an interception for us. That 411 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: was the carry interception as well. Yeah, and then it 412 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: followed and then you have a total shank that doesn't 413 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: even go about was like eight ten yards net or 414 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, it was it was that 415 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: was bad. But otherwise and he was he's been solid. 416 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: Cyber makes his field goals. I mean, that's that's all 417 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: you need. And you covered well. I think the one 418 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: player the one the one punt they returned, they got 419 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: called for a penony. So again we're not talking about 420 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: special teams and that's a good thing. Yeah, that punt 421 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: was twenty one yards in my head from Jim last night. 422 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: It was from the Rams and it went out well, yeah, 423 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: out of bounds at this and it was one of 424 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: those thanks where he saw the official coming up the sideline. 425 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: You're just like stopped running. Stop. You couldn't go to 426 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: time out. He just keeps going. They wouldn't signal there 427 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: was for the media time out. He's still coming. I'm like, Okay, 428 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: he's almost to our window. That's not a positive. Freddie 429 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: Kitchens After three games, Freddie has put a lot on himself, 430 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: especially last night after the game and again today when 431 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: he met with the media. You know that, Hey, everything 432 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: starts with me. When things go bad, it's on me. Um, 433 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: He says, he doesn't have too much on his plate um, 434 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: just in terms of the play calling. It's got to 435 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: get better, and he recognizes that. Uh, it has to 436 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: get better, probably sooner rather than later, though, based on 437 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: who you're playing here in the next few weeks. Yeah, 438 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean we did. We're just talking about the same 439 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: things we've been talking about. It's just you don't feel 440 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: any sort of comfort and consistency with this offense. I 441 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: think that that they had a few more spurts of 442 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: football yesterday that we hadn't seen in the previous weeks. 443 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: So that's why I was telling Nathan before the show, 444 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: it's like, you started off really low and you're making 445 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: these really incremental steps up. And even though you scored 446 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: more points week two, I think the offense was considering 447 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: the competition, uh, and considering the plays you made. I 448 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: thought the offense was a little bit better this week 449 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: than it was the previous week. So you're making progress, 450 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: but you've only got sixteen of these games, and and 451 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: the schedules catching up to you in a hurry. So 452 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: you've got to make this progress in a little bit 453 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: more swift fashion. And I think that that's that's gonna 454 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: be the point of emphasis this week. I mean, crazily, 455 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: this might the This Baltimore defense might be your best 456 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: shot of these first four. They've taken a little bit 457 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: of a step back defensively, they're still pretty good and 458 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: so it's not gonna get much easier. Uh So you 459 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: just need to build off what you're doing well. I 460 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: can't believe if you had told me this three years ago, 461 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I'd be saying this. But this offense 462 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: really really needs Rochard Higgins back in the offense. Like 463 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: there's just something there that really opens things up for Baker, 464 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: opens things up for everything else that you're just not getting. 465 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: You need that guy underneath, yeah, and you're just it's 466 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: just missing right now. And so the play calling, I 467 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: think we all agree with Freddie when he says you 468 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: probably should run the ball once they're on in the 469 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: fourth down. I think we all agree that we didn't 470 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: know what was going on in fourth and nine with 471 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: with the draw play. Those are the two easy ones. 472 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: But this is, this is why Freddie got the job 473 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: is this is and he he knows that players know that, 474 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: and that's why talk of anyone else calling the players 475 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: is just silly at this point. I think, for as 476 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: much as it stings right now, and it's gonna stay 477 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of the week, it's gonna stay until 478 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: another win is recorded. I think that if we get 479 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: to the end of the season, the Browns up in 480 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs, we're gonna look back in this week three 481 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: and this is the way this game ended as as 482 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: a good thing for this team. Because games like this, 483 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: when you have to go immediately accept blame for making 484 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: what most people would view as a poor decision or 485 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: not the right call, and you have to go admit 486 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: that immediately, it forces you to then examine and re 487 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: evaluate what you've done at on a micro level. What 488 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: place should I have called here? What place should we 489 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: have done here? Should these routes have run this deep? 490 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: So on and so forth? And I think that as 491 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: they evaluate this tape. This their best test so far, 492 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: This the highest caliber team they've played so far. They're 493 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna look back and say, man, we were that close, 494 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: and if we had done this instead of this, or 495 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: called this play, or run this route, or maybe this 496 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: personnel grouping and mixed it up or done something different, 497 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: or not run three guys super far down the field. 498 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: But you don't need it, uh. I think that they'll 499 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: realize that, oh, this is the these are the changes 500 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: that we need to make, and then we'll apply them 501 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: moving forward. And and and I think that only really 502 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: comes about if you run into some adversity like this. 503 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: You have to be sometimes you have to be forced 504 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: to look yourself in the mirror and and reevaluate what 505 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. And I think Freddie's got the ability in 506 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: the talent, He's demonstrated it before and and the wherewithal 507 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: intellectually to go call a good game a really good 508 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: game based on his personnel. He needs his personality get healthy, 509 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: and I think he needs to just tailor it more 510 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: to those guys. More consistency, you know, just have the 511 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: patience and know that it's going to pay off if 512 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: you keep if you keep hammering away and doing the 513 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: things that you're good at. Look, having Odell Beckham is great, 514 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: but every play he doesn't need to, you know, go 515 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: deep and sometimes I mean, look, what's what's his touchdown 516 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: this year? Right? It was a four yard uh skinny post. 517 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean he was I was down the scene. Was 518 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: just a quick hitter and he was gone, just give 519 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: the ball in space, that kind of thing. And I 520 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: think they'll they'll do a little bit better where that last. Yeah, 521 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: they'll adjust that, and they kind of got away from 522 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: it in the second half. But I think the Rams 523 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: you have to then, you know, the Rams offense is good, 524 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: The Rams defense is a lot more than just Aaron Donald. Yeah, 525 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: and I think that we should make sure that we 526 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: acknowledge that as well. And again, this is a RAMS 527 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: team that has played together for three years now, right, 528 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: this is our third game playing together, right, and really 529 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: this is our This is like preseason game number three 530 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: because most of them didn't play in the preseason all 531 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: right around the a f C North the Bengals, Steelers, 532 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: oh and three Steelers forty niners. Wasn't ugly game to 533 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: say the least, but I got exciting at the end 534 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: that Steelers defense is still there. Yeah, the offense showed 535 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: some signs of life in the second half, but you know, 536 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: they reminded me of early Browns two yet I saw, 537 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: of course five turnovers and can't win. Yeah, I mean, 538 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: that's that's bad. I mean, but the forty Niners a 539 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: three and oh, but they've had two games offensively where 540 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: they've looked like that, and that's that they should feel 541 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: very happy that they're three. And I saw next gen 542 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: stat graphic yesterday that showed Mason Rudolph only completed two 543 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: passes beyond the line of scrimmage and they both went 544 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: for touchdowns. Everything else was short. So that kind of 545 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: shows you that they're probably trying to ease him into 546 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: the action a little bit now that he's going to 547 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: be the guy this year, and uh, and not put 548 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: anything that might be too big for him on his shoulders, 549 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of throwing the ball downfield. The 550 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: NFC West is five and one already against the a 551 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: f C North, but the only Ravens have the only 552 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: win against the Cardinals. But both the Bengals and the 553 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Steelers are now against the Nfcust, and the Bengals remind 554 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: me of past Browns teams pick a year and a 555 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: year will do the Bengals inability to just close out 556 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: an opponent. That's what's going on there. I mean between 557 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: the Seattle game, between what happened yesterday with Buffalo. Uh, 558 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: they just they're having trouble finishing off games. You know, 559 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: they played well for three and a half quarters and 560 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: or just well enough to be out in front and 561 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: can't finish down to Earth game for the Ravens, yeah yeah, 562 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: but they played pretty well to this, they represented themselves well, 563 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: very similar to what the Browns against the Rams. They 564 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: just can't can't get it done. And we will get 565 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: in more about the Ravens later this week. But this 566 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: is not This is not some team that I think 567 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us thought, and not necessarily the people 568 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: in this room, but I think a lot of people 569 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: in the perception nationwide was this team is going to 570 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: take a step back. They have not taken a step 571 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: back now. They have stayed about the same. I don't 572 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: know if they're any better than they were a year ago, 573 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: but they are there. They're still right where they need 574 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: to be. They're built for the future. Even if they 575 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: took some losses on the defensive side, of the ball 576 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: in the off season, which we're probably pretty well calculated. 577 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I think the one that they didn't expect was Mosley. 578 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: But letting a guy like Zadarius Smith go, you know, 579 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to pay everybody because it's just not 580 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: feasible long terms. You have to let some of those 581 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: guys go when they come up for contracts and then 582 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: and try to replace through the draft or other means. 583 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: And I think they've done a decent job so far. 584 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: So their defense might not be quite as good as 585 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: it was last year, but it was the number one 586 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: unit in the league last year, so you know, a 587 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a drop back is still a pretty 588 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: good unit. Uh, But I do I will say the 589 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: door is open for the Browns. I mean, right now, 590 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens are two and one, of the Browns are 591 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: one and two, and the Bengals and the others are 592 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: own three. You go, you come back here too, and 593 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: from tied with a technical tiebreaker, with another matchup with 594 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens coming later in the season at home, and 595 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be smiling instead of 596 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: how they're feeling right now. I've been saying it for 597 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: a while, and I with the way the schedule shapes up. 598 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: If you just get to week seven at three and four, 599 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: that's the minimum. I don't think you're in You're in 600 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: okay shape. Yeah, I mean just with the way the 601 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: schedule breaks out, with the travel, with the opponents, I mean, 602 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make a Seattle week six. 603 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean they've been all over the map these first 604 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: three weeks. Uh, It's just this schedule is frontloaded. We 605 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: knew that from the beginning. I don't think we expected 606 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: San Francis gonna be three and oh. But I I'm 607 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: that game still doesn't worry me as much as some 608 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: of these other ones. But you know, every one of 609 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: these games. If you these next few, if you can 610 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: just get a couple and be in a good position 611 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: after the bye week, I think you and you're trending 612 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: upwards that that's a spot you want to be in. 613 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: All right, guys, one quick thing that each one of 614 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: you are looking for. As we have the player to 615 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: day off tomorrow, back to work on Wednesday, what does 616 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: this team need to work on this week? I'll say 617 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: they need to work on their health, because you don't 618 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: want to have nine guys that can't play on top, 619 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: but two guys you put on injured reserve. I mean 620 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: that's unheard of. I mean you had seven inactives, two 621 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: guys that were placed on injured reserve, and two guys 622 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: who if you had to declare more inactives, we're not 623 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: playing in that. Shulter, Guadwine, and Christman did not play 624 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: us today, and I don't think they could have. Like 625 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Gribel walked in and deliver the inactives on the radio 626 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: network and it was like the grim Reaper watched him 627 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: up and it's just brutal. I mean, this is the 628 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: worst case scenario. And I just went and and and 629 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: they lost by a touchdown and a touch I think, 630 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: I think what made it the worst Yesterday's I don't 631 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us we maybe should have 632 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: been paying more attention to it, but there were so 633 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: many guys who didn't practice this week that we just 634 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: assumed all the other guys who were limited, we're going 635 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: to practice this week. And I think the one that 636 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: stung and twisted the knife a little bit was the 637 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Richard Higgins. That was the one that maybe all of 638 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: us had taken for granted and just assumed he was 639 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: ready to go and then when you get that one 640 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: years like I will, I mean, I will say, Damon 641 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Rightley did a good job. Yeah, he's done fine. Couple. 642 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's the throw that Baker made Trushard Higgins 643 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: on that first drive of the season. That's what we 644 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: have not been seeing. And I don't know if that's 645 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: just a confidence thing with Higgins. It opens things up 646 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: for everyone else. Yeah, well we'll we'll see. I mean, 647 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: this is the Rams when they lost Cooper Cup last year, 648 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: different offense take a step back. Yeah, And I mean 649 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: look at last night. He was the focal point of 650 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: their offense. Eleven catches for two yards, two touchdowns. Tour 651 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that in November, Brandon Cooks, they were never the same 652 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: after he was gone out. So so Brandon Cooks had 653 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: eight catches for a hundred and twelve yards and probably 654 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: the quietest eight for one twelve I've ever seen in 655 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: my life because we're all too concerned with Cooper Cup 656 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: and is eleven catches for d and two scores. I mean, 657 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a game changer right there. And 658 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: he's been that for them, like you know, like Gribble said, 659 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: since he came to the league. I mean, that's what 660 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: he did for them last year. So again you lost 661 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: by a touchdown to a good team. It's not the 662 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: end of the world, all right, It is not at 663 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: the end of the world. We'll be back with you 664 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday, getting you dye for Brown's Ravens. Week four. 665 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: The quarter Point, The first quarter point of the two 666 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen NFL season for Andrew Gribble, for Nick Shook. 667 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs. This has been the best podcast available