1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundreds to San Francisco, 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the countries sees Exam General one nine team, 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio Plus Athen Bloomberg 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: dot Gone. This is taking Stock, coming up on taking stock, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: a look at the European Union and the risks for 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: your portfolio. Are their models for other countries leaving the 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: European Union and what that would do to your money? 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: We'll find out more. We're gonna We're gonna be speaking 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: with Sam Juan. He's founder and managing director of Global 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Risk Management Advisors PAM. I wonder what he'll have to 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: say about Bill Gross of Jane's Capital Management, saying that 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: he is sniffing out some rather bear Stearns kind of 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: uh vibe from what's happening UK property market. That could 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: be a risk. Let's go to Katherine Cadry. Now, no 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: risk there, she's in the Bloomberg news room with the 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business Flash. Thank you. Kathleen was stock selled down 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: to their games after a minute of last month's federal 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: Reserve Policy meeting, so almost all officials present indicated May's 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: weak employment report added to economic uncertainty. Bloomberg has been 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: adel Judas has the details of those f o MC minutes. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Central bankers aired on the side of portion and holding 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: their benchmark interest rate steady. The labor market slowdown was 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: chief among their concerns make job growth with the weakest 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: in almost six years. FED officials also sought prudent to 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: wait for the results of Britain's EU referendum, which at 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the time was too close to call. The Fence Policy 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Panel next meets July twenty seven. At the Bloomberg First 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Woraddest Company Dell shoot Ice, Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg Radio and TV. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Bill Grows Fund, manager of Jannis Capital Management, was asked 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: if anything surprised him in those FED minutes. Will not 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: much pipe. Yes, they reach an employment uncertainties and we 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: know that's probably because of the lower job totals. Will 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: no more on farther loon't wait, and that's when the 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Labor Department will release its June jobs report. We talk 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: the markets every fifteen minutes throughout the rating day. Del 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Industrial LeVert is up forty six points a quarter percent, 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: trading at seventeen thousand, eight hundred eighty six. SMP five 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: funded up seven points a third of a percent at 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: two thousand ninety five and as dat is up twenty 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: six points. That's a gain of half a percent. It's 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: rating at forty eight forty nine less. Texas Intermedia crude 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: oil up sixty five cents a barrel one point four 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: percent to forty seven twenty five s about gold up 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: eight dollar seventy cents. Announced of thirteen sixty seven fifty 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: ten year treasury holding study with the yield of one 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: point three seven percent. Among today's How Business stories, two 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: more UK property funds have halted withdrawals in the wake 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: of Britain's decision to leave the European Union. That brings 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: a total number to five. And now let's get enough 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: date of some of the other stories were following today 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Thank you, Catherine from the Bloomberg Newsroom. 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm Jill Schneider. HOW speaker Paul Ryan says a lot 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of questions still need to be answered about Hillary Clinton's 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: use of a private email server while she was Secretary 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: of State and the FBI investigation into it. FBI Director 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: James Comey has been summoned to testify before the House 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee tomorrow, and the House Judiciary Panel has scheduled 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: hearing for next week with Attorney General Lauretta Lynch. Ryan 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: says Clinton has offered quote, nothing but stonewalling and dishonesty 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: on the issue and appears to have received preferential treatment 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: from the FBI. Tennessee Republican Senator Bob Corker withdrew himself 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: today from consideration as a possible running mate for Donald Trump. 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I know what I'm good at, and I feel like 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm better suited for other kinds of things, and I 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: think they're probably better suiting people for this for them. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: When asked for his opinion on who Trump should pick, 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Corker said, although he knows it would not be a 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: popular opinion, he believes Trump's ex wife, Ivanka would be 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the right person for the job. President Obama will slow 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: down the U. S. Troop withdrawal from Afghanistan. Instead of 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: going down to troops by the end of this year, 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: the United States will make saying approximately eight four hundred 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: troops in Afghanistan into next year. Through the end of 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: my administration. The President also says the Taliban is still 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: a threat. If you've been outside today, you probably don't 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: need us to tell you, but it's a scorcher here 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: in the city. Temperatures have topped the ninety degree mark. 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: The intense heat is expected to last three days. Global 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: News twenty four hours a day, powered by more than 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: twenty six hundred journalists and analysts in more than one 82 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: hundred twenty countries. From the Bloomberg News Room. I'm Jill Schneider. Katherine, 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: thank you. Now, let's get an update of those equity 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: benchmarks down. Industrial leverage up forty eight points to seventeen thousand, 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty nine. SMP five founded up seven points 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand ninety five, nastack higher by twenty eight 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: points at eight fifty. And that's a Bloomberg business flash 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: you're listening to taking start with Kathleen Hays and Pim 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Fox on Bloomberg Radio. The pounds sterling plunges further, trading 90 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: at one nine thirty six versus the US dollar, Japan's 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: twenty year bond deal turns negative, and more UK property 92 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: funds suspend trading. These are all risks that you need 93 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: to take into consideration when managing money. Samuel Juan is 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: the founder and the managing director of Global Risk Management Advisors. 95 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: He joins us now. Sam Juan, thanks very much for 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: coming in and what if you could tell people what 97 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: is Global Risk Management Advisors and what do you actually 98 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: do who some of your customers? UM? Well, I started 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: the firm UM right on the heels of the financial 100 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: crisis to help both asset managers and institutional investors with 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: investment risk management. And about a third of our work 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: is what some people who think of risk management. It 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: is very quantitative, it is very geeky, and we try 104 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: to use very sophisticated modeling and math to figure out 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: what the risks are in your portfolio and what the 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: potential losses are. But two thirds of the majority of 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: the work that we do is really around good government, 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: good processes, good controls, good strategy, because that's really at 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: the end of the day. But what Trump's and one 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: is the most important thing in terms of UH descending 111 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: order of what institutions do. And as I mentioned, we 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: work with UH institutional investors such as endowments and pensions foundations, 113 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and we work with asset managers heavy concentration of alternative 114 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: managers and imagine the phone ringing off the hook because 115 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: people are wondering, Okay, bregsit, what do I stay away from? 116 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: Where is there something I should be getting rid of 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: quickly that I didn't already get rid of before the vote, 118 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: and or is there something I should be getting ready 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: to leap in and buy? Where do you start with 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: that analysis? Uh? We think it's important. So if we 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: take an institutional industrial like a pension or a foundation 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: or endowment, UM, those institutions are fortunate that they can 123 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: take a relatively longer term view, and so we think 124 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: it's very important that they stick to a plan and 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: that plan and starts with their investment policy statement and 126 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: the risk policy guidelines. We think it does make sense 127 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: to assess what impact the portfolio has had near term 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: from Brexit as well as what it may look medium 129 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: term and long term to to, you know, figure out 130 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: whether there should be any strategical, strategic or tactical changes 131 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: they need to make. One thing we've been advising investors, 132 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: and this applies to just retailer John Q Public as 133 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: well is UM We caution that people should not overreact, 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: especially given the fact that two thousand eight is still 135 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: fresh on many people's minds, and that is we think 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: a very important lesson learned. SAM. If there is a 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: money manager who blames poor performance on Brexit, should you 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: go looking for another money manager? Are there ways to 139 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: have mitigated the risk? UM. If you look at the 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: first few days following Brittain Britain's decision to exit the EU, UH, 141 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: and you look at the proverbial winners and losers, the 142 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: majority of the people were, whether the professional or amateur 143 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: investor losers, meaning that when all the markets are down, 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: most people are long the market and so there's no 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: place for cover. The exception to that where people, of 146 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: course who UH might have been UM long some of 147 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: the flight to safety kind of things such as US 148 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: or Japanese bonds or speculative investments such as gold UM, 149 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: but there are very very few winners who anticipated UM Brexit. 150 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: We think in terms of assessing UM, you know your investments, 151 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: it would be foolish to look at it just through 152 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: the filter of Brexit. Certainly, if your investments are eurocentric UM, 153 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: that should give you pause to UH look for opportunities 154 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: to diminish that concentration risk and diversify. But other than that, 155 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: we think that people should um uh, you know, be 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: vigilant about assessing their portfolio, watching it and looking at 157 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: the and trying to understand the broader economic and political implications. 158 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that is the forest from 159 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: the trees that gets lost because there's so people, so 160 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: many people get focused on what's going up and what's 161 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: going down? Okay, so what are what is? What is 162 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: the broader global implication and what does it mean for portfolios? 163 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: As you've in the time you've spent last couple of 164 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: weeks looking at the Briggs that vote, what are what 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: a couple of the key themes that emerge with people 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: to be aware of the key themes to look at. 167 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: As an example, is um is um um the UK's 168 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: separation with the EU? What ramifications is that going to 169 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: have trade within the eurozone? Um? What is that going 170 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: to do for to the extent that investors are invested 171 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: in companies that are within the foot see one hundred, 172 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: what are the implications? So as an example, one of 173 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: the questions I've imposed in the last couple of days is, 174 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: given brexit, how can you explain the foots on being 175 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: up so that's a you know, a paradox, and in 176 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: the near term our answer to that is as follows. 177 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Number one, UM, you know, some of it is just 178 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: relief from the fact that UM, the UK has not 179 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: exercised Article fifty yet. Secondly, if you look at the 180 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: composition of the companies within the foots you one hundred 181 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: more than seventy seven percent of them are multinationals who 182 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: garner majority of the revenue outside the UK and as such, 183 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: UM they're making money that's worth more UH in local 184 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: currency terms the pound. All right, saman want thank you 185 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. His founder and managing director, 186 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Global Risk Management Advisors right here in New York City. 187 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Don't overreact to brexit, step back. Are your investment zero centric? 188 00:10:54,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Maybe you need a broader view. This is Bloomberg coming 189 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: upon taking stock. We'll be speaking with a global macro 190 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: trader and an in house analyst for Vine Street Trading. 191 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: They focus on electronic futures markets who've got details ahead