WEBVTT - Iran War Escalates; Global Markets React

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<v Speaker 2>Waterhouse Coopers right now Coopers in Live at You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we remember it as well. Lexis crow darkins the dirt

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. What does your shop say about the capitalization

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<v Speaker 2>the options of big tech? They feel like they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>by their own rule book because of their profitability, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're young turks out in San Francisco and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does PwC say about the bond issuance or

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<v Speaker 2>the stack buyback? I mean, just just continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much Tom for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think in that realm credit conditions are pretty easy,

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<v Speaker 4>and what we hear from a lot of investors and

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<v Speaker 4>developers is that these are top tier borrowers, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>no concern about mounting piles of leverage.

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<v Speaker 5>How about mounting piles of one hundred dollars oil and

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<v Speaker 5>the impact that has on the global economy. Is it

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<v Speaker 5>a short term blip? You guys aren't too concerned about it,

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<v Speaker 5>or are you reworking your models and thinking about GDP

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<v Speaker 5>and inflation that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul, thanks so much. I mean, this is not Russia Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the largest shock that we've had to the

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<v Speaker 4>global energy system since nineteen seventy nine. At that time,

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<v Speaker 4>as we know, oil doubled in value, and we're headed

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<v Speaker 4>that way again.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate what the former gentlemen said.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say that, yes, effects of this will be localized,

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<v Speaker 4>but in the United States there are downstream impacts. So

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<v Speaker 4>we think about that growth in America right now is

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<v Speaker 4>overwhelmingly tilted toward the investment spend in AI. And where

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<v Speaker 4>do the semicon chips come from that go into fabrication

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<v Speaker 4>of AI and data centers. They come from South Korea.

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<v Speaker 4>Where does South Korea's oil come from? It comes from

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<v Speaker 4>the Middle East. So there are long term implications of

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening, even the downstream impacts of fertilizers here in

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<v Speaker 4>the US as we come into the planting season.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do your research not to us or you

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<v Speaker 2>have minions that do this for me? My god, what

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<v Speaker 2>a fabulous research. Now? Thank you get that from Price

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<v Speaker 2>Waterhouse Coopers. Folks, as you can. PW. See. I love

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<v Speaker 2>your first chart about the multinationalization of American companies. We

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<v Speaker 2>still to this day underplay that, don't we Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty three point six percent of the revenue of the

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<v Speaker 4>tech portion of the S and P five hundred is

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<v Speaker 4>earned overseas, which means that again, those companies that we're

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<v Speaker 4>all relying on in terms of prosperity in America are

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<v Speaker 4>not immune to slowing growth overseas?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they international stocks? Where I don't need to diversify

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<v Speaker 2>Internet nationally. I can just buy Apple because they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I would still I would still bank on diversification and

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<v Speaker 4>getting into European baskets and Asian baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, the outperformance of the SCI has been pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So.

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<v Speaker 5>How do we start adjusting our GDP models. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we just had Delta come out today. He said it

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<v Speaker 5>took a four hundred million dollar higher fuel costs just

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<v Speaker 5>in the month of March. So this really is hitting

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<v Speaker 5>the economy. Is this going to materially slow the economy

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<v Speaker 5>or is it again? Is it something maybe they can

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<v Speaker 5>power through?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it'll be interesting to see what the FED says

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<v Speaker 4>with it's SEP coming out, generally, I think you would

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<v Speaker 4>say it's they'll they'll, they'll bank on. It's something you

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<v Speaker 4>can look through, right in terms of GDP growth, because

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<v Speaker 4>again this fallacy is that AI is insulated from the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of kind of policy shocks in the glory. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the US consumer is super price sensitive

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to the price they pay it the pump.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're coming into the summer driving season, so larger

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<v Speaker 4>share of income will go toward transportation.

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<v Speaker 3>And with oil where it is dieseled.

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<v Speaker 4>Today in California six and a half, that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>put pressure on the purse.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thunderstruck by the price of diesel in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>like ten days ago. I mean, I think there's not

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<v Speaker 2>been enough said PA. I think about refinery products.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, especially California.

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<v Speaker 2>Gas oil fuel oil is looking at you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>way they go from the chemistry of oil in the

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<v Speaker 2>naphtha into ethyline in that I mean the petrochemical business.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Priced water House Cooper see of that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So it's interesting just thinking about some of these

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<v Speaker 4>down down, you know, refined products you have Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 4>can get some of these refined products from the East

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<v Speaker 4>Coast over to the West Coast and the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 4>to Jason and too Yanbu. But that's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a logistical overhaul. Its something that the Finance Minister actually

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<v Speaker 4>prioritized prior to all of this, as they would focus

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<v Speaker 4>on logistics.

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<v Speaker 3>And here they are.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to have to do that. You can get

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<v Speaker 4>fertilizers out that way as well. But in any given

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<v Speaker 4>year in the United States, farmers rely on forty percent

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<v Speaker 4>imports to make up the area and fertilizers, so this

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<v Speaker 4>will be a I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's way under play conty. We're all looking together,

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<v Speaker 2>Gus and I'm sorry, it's way more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, And I don't see how this is anything but

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<v Speaker 5>a political head wind for this administration. I'm just surprised

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<v Speaker 5>this from a political perspective, given that affordability has become

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<v Speaker 5>a gigise and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's massively global. It's amazing how we don't want petro

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<v Speaker 2>chemicals in America, so they're over somewhere else where we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about it. Alexis crow or this

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<v Speaker 2>partner chief economist at PwC, Paul Sweeney with doctor Crowe.

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<v Speaker 5>So what do you expect how do you expect the

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<v Speaker 5>Fed tomorrow to comment about this? Do you expect them

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<v Speaker 5>to comment directly? And how do you think they will

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<v Speaker 5>kind of adjust for this?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it'll be I think the main thing

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<v Speaker 4>that market participants will looking for is if they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to give any guidance on whether there will be rate

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<v Speaker 4>cuts in the future. Obviously you can expect them to

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<v Speaker 4>hold pause tomorrow. I think you've seen some of the

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<v Speaker 4>voting members move from two cuts to one, in which

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<v Speaker 4>case I would say, I mean the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>things is there's still this rich debate within the FED

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<v Speaker 4>right now as to whether or not you focus on

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<v Speaker 4>the inflation part and price stability of the dual mandate,

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<v Speaker 4>or whether or not you focus on the labor market.

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<v Speaker 4>You've had some actually highlighting that what Austin Golesby calls

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<v Speaker 4>the four horsemen in the employment market is actually quite strong.

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<v Speaker 4>So looking beneath non farm payrolls and the levels and

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<v Speaker 4>into the rate of USTAR and the unemployment rate, just

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the vacancy rate, job openings, you actually got

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<v Speaker 4>a quite healthy labor market.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk to you UK? I mean, we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Commission or do you have a parking ticket in London?

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<v Speaker 2>We could have solved that like two hours ago, Alexis Coro,

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<v Speaker 2>the migration from Saint Andrews down to LC Jesuit Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was in the Wall Street Journal like

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<v Speaker 2>three days ago with an article on your Saint Andrews?

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<v Speaker 2>Are there too many ugly Americans at St Andrews?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that.

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<v Speaker 4>Has changed significantly since my days. So that chart that

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<v Speaker 4>they put in there, the number of Americans has dramatically risen.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it's amazing, I mean to say the least. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is the phrase I'm seeing in the British press,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the Prime minister selective realignment? Is Brexit

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<v Speaker 2>a failure? I mean, doctor Crow with in all your

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<v Speaker 2>academics and frankly PwC London and the huge platform you

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<v Speaker 2>have in the United Kingdom. Are we now to a

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<v Speaker 2>point where brexit we could say we've got to do

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<v Speaker 2>selective realignment?

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's interesting anything but name right, a U turn

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<v Speaker 4>in anything but name, I mean fascinating that the now

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<v Speaker 4>Prime Minister of Canada, who was then Central Bank Governor

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<v Speaker 4>in the UK, very clearly stated that brexit would have

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<v Speaker 4>a deleterious impact on the British economy and was almost

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<v Speaker 4>held in contempt of Parliament for it. So we're certainly

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<v Speaker 4>facing the impacts of that today. And Tom, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about this with the growth outlook, but why

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<v Speaker 4>has growth not dramatically in the UK. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things were explained away for COVID, but if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at employment, healthcare social workers are the largest share of employment.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at GDP numbers, the housing market and

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<v Speaker 4>real estate is the largest share of GDP growth and

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<v Speaker 4>that's largely insulated from any downside impacts from Brexit.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me just before we go here, the current zite

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<v Speaker 2>guys to PwC an AI benefiting society. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a massive The fancy people love AI and everybody else's crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Simplistic phenomenal that we're looking at some of the job

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<v Speaker 4>numbers right where layoffs are promised, but basically to channel

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<v Speaker 4>capital into the physical and technological capital in AI. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the exact opposite of what is happening in Europe, where

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<v Speaker 4>you actually had the unemployment rate hitting an all time low.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're in two different I would say we're in

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<v Speaker 4>a tale of two cities here, and the messages are

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<v Speaker 4>very different across very different across the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know the answer. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 5>a net positive. Well, I know it's gonna be net positive,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, but I'm not sure what the costs are.

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<v Speaker 2>So my brother's a fancy guy in this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>his exact quote. I have no clue or will be

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<v Speaker 2>in six months. That's exactly what he said.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you writing about next? Get out front of

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<v Speaker 2>here of PWC's.

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<v Speaker 4>Word natural capital and investing in agriculture. It is the

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<v Speaker 4>sort of next generation of climate investing because the far

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<v Speaker 4>right actually like agriculture.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's natural capital?

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<v Speaker 3>It is the umbrella, Dad, it's the new one.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the umbrella phrase for everything investing in biodiversity, credits,

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<v Speaker 4>farmland restoration, regenerative agriculture.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good, Alexis Crow. Thank you so much. With PwC.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say enough about the grind, the academic work

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<v Speaker 2>that they're doing at their consultancy really a huge value.

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us. Well. I had so much response

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<v Speaker 2>inside here from Miles Miller and others to your appearance today.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start with the way you do it

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<v Speaker 2>in the United Kingdom. What was it like your first

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<v Speaker 2>day in the West Midlands. You've got the wonderful uniform,

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing all the wonderful thing. In London, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrities and the all the different stuff, probably watching

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<v Speaker 2>the royal family forget about it. What was the first

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<v Speaker 2>day as a constable?

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<v Speaker 6>Like Midlands I always wanted to be I want to

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<v Speaker 6>be a police officer, and I went to university and

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<v Speaker 6>then after university a few months later I'm on the

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<v Speaker 6>streets of Birmingham. So it's a bit of a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a shock to the system. In placing you see

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<v Speaker 6>life in the raw, you see the best of people

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<v Speaker 6>and the worst of people. And it was it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 6>And the thing that stuck with me throughout is our

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<v Speaker 6>people are fantastic because they're so committed to the mission.

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<v Speaker 6>They will stress themselves, strain themselves, put themselves at risk,

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<v Speaker 6>and being part of that has always been a privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark what I find it fascinating of the stereotypes that

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have, our basic ideas. Our police are under the teeth,

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<v Speaker 2>all the uproard ice and all that. Now and am

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<v Speaker 2>I right that a police officer in the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>the United Kingdom doesn't carry a weapon. That's exactly right. First,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still like Mary Poppins.

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<v Speaker 6>Poppins without the Van Dyke accident. It's still careful. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>there's no it's really that's exactly. We've got fewer than

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<v Speaker 6>ten percent of our officers are armed, so we have

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<v Speaker 6>specialists who are highly trained who we deploy to armed incidents.

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<v Speaker 6>We have such a different context. Our firearms legislation is

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<v Speaker 6>really restrictive. It's hard for criminals to get hold of

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<v Speaker 6>guns on the streets of London not impossible, but we're

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<v Speaker 6>constantly suppressing that, stopping organized crime, gangs, bringing illegal firearms

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<v Speaker 6>in the city. I mean, last year twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 6>we recorded the lowest per capita homicide rate London's ever had,

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<v Speaker 6>ninety seven. Very mind with slightly bigger city than New York.

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<v Speaker 6>New York's at record low levels as well, that's three hundred,

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<v Speaker 6>we're ninety seven. It's a fantastically safe place and we

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<v Speaker 6>we're really proud of a policing by content style that's

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<v Speaker 6>based on relationships with the community. It's minimum use of force,

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<v Speaker 6>but also being tough when we need to be commissard.

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<v Speaker 5>How many police officers are in London Metropolitan Police and

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<v Speaker 5>give us it's what's a typical officer.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've got about thirty one thousand officers, about ten

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<v Speaker 6>thousand unsworn staff. So we policed like city of nine

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<v Speaker 6>million people and just like New York, you've got then

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<v Speaker 6>millions of tourists and commuters coming in on top of that.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've i put our people into of four four

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<v Speaker 6>board groups. So we've got community police officers. The Foundation

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<v Speaker 6>they were at the same patch every day. They know

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<v Speaker 6>the community. They're fighting crime where people live and building

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<v Speaker 6>that relationship with the communities. Secondly, you've got your response team,

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<v Speaker 6>so you nine nine nine one one in your language,

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<v Speaker 6>nine nine in my language, calls that are going to

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<v Speaker 6>turning up and dealing with crisis sort of stabblings, domestic

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<v Speaker 6>advance where else it might be in the moment. And

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<v Speaker 6>then thirdly, our detectives who are chasing down cases, whether

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<v Speaker 6>it's street violence, whether it's sort of rape and sexual violence,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're all supported by organized crime teams who are

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<v Speaker 6>critical at taking out the most insidious crime underpins it.

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<v Speaker 5>Talk to us about just in the world we live

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<v Speaker 5>in today, just with Iran, what's going on with Thern Yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 5>a global capital, you have to think about what's going

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<v Speaker 5>on in the rest of the world, much like the

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<v Speaker 5>Police Commission of New York City would as well. How

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<v Speaker 5>do you deal with what's going on in other parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the world and help me relate to again a

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<v Speaker 5>world capital like London.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So I was with Jessicatis yesterday. We've got so

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<v Speaker 6>much in con between London and New York and sharing

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<v Speaker 6>ideas and sharing experiences of the threats we're facing with

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<v Speaker 6>probably the two greatest cities in the world, I would say,

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<v Speaker 6>and that connection to the rest of the world, those complex,

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<v Speaker 6>diverse communities, it's a fantastic place to be. But it

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<v Speaker 6>also means you'll link to every challenge in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>So for example, with what's going on at the moment

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<v Speaker 6>in the Middle East, we've had in the last couple

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<v Speaker 6>of years, we've disrupted more than twenty Iranian directed plots

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<v Speaker 6>on the streets of the UK's Wow. So Scotland Yard,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't just polease London. We lead the national CANCI

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<v Speaker 6>terrorism policing effort as well, so we have a national

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<v Speaker 6>responsibility and it is responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Smark with us here of course of the London Metropolitan

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<v Speaker 2>Police as Commissioner, honored to have them with us to

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<v Speaker 2>say we say good morning to all of you across

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<v Speaker 2>the United Kingdom and around the world. Bloomberg is surveillance.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the reality. I'm at Scotts in Mayfair. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like slumming. I'm at you know where it is, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at Scotts and Mayfair. Here's the reality. I never

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<v Speaker 2>sit outside in Europe when I have food or drink

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<v Speaker 2>because the phone goes right off the table. The phones

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<v Speaker 2>get stolen, stolen, stolen, you're leading a charge in it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you need from Tim Cook? So I can

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<v Speaker 2>sit outside at Scotts again.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So firstly what a police doing about it? And

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<v Speaker 6>then what can tech companies do about it? So in

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<v Speaker 6>the center of town now it's at half the rate

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<v Speaker 6>it was a year ago. Last year was ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>Few of victims. We've been taking out the organized crime gangs.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a global hundreds of million dollar trade because

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<v Speaker 6>the problem with the security on these phones is that

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<v Speaker 6>the tech companies had an amazing job. So we can

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<v Speaker 6>run our life on our phones, our data secure, people

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<v Speaker 6>run their banks and everything else. That's fantastic, but the

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<v Speaker 6>physical securities had less attention. So the phone that gets

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<v Speaker 6>stolen from you in New York or Paris or London,

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<v Speaker 6>on Madrid or wherever, that can be rebooted and sold

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<v Speaker 6>as nearly new and sort of wiped, not with your

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<v Speaker 6>data in it. Those phones have been exported to China, Africa,

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<v Speaker 6>South America and sold for high value, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>driving the trade. What we need from the tech companies

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<v Speaker 6>is to be able to turn the stolen phone into

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<v Speaker 6>a brick. If you report it stolen, you should be

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<v Speaker 6>able to log onto your Android accounts or your iOS

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<v Speaker 6>account and put it down as stolen, and then it's

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<v Speaker 6>never going to be reactivated. That would crash the secondhand

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<v Speaker 6>value and that would stop the thieving, so we can

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<v Speaker 6>keep driving it down. We hosted a conference in London

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<v Speaker 6>last year. We had we had people, we had Santiago, Tokyo, Barcelona, Rome,

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<v Speaker 6>we had cities across the world are all facing the same.

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<v Speaker 6>This is an issue for global cities happening across the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to the moon. Why can't Tim Cook fix

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<v Speaker 2>the phone once and for all. I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't get it either. I hope I have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>If we used to have a problem in the UK,

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<v Speaker 6>and I imagine here as well, where thirty years ago

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<v Speaker 6>car radios would be stolen out of cars. Guess what

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<v Speaker 6>we redesigned dashboards, didn't we You can't steal a car

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<v Speaker 6>radio now, it's like integral to whole vehicle. You say

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<v Speaker 6>to your kids you worried about your radio being stolen,

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<v Speaker 6>So why can't we design this at It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 6>If that was a brick when it was stolen, that

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<v Speaker 6>would kill the global trade.

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<v Speaker 5>In this told us are just about technology broadly in policing.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to think it's like the rest of us

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<v Speaker 5>has changed the way you do your job your first

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<v Speaker 5>days to how you're doing it now. How do you

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<v Speaker 5>stay on top of the technology.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's one of the things Commissa New York and

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<v Speaker 6>I were discussing yesterday, the clever things they've done. We're

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<v Speaker 6>doing exchanging notes on it. Keeping pace with that is

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<v Speaker 6>really critical to keep pace with criminals. Also to make

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<v Speaker 6>best use of the data. A quick couple of examples,

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<v Speaker 6>so we've been using sort of algorithms and sort of

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<v Speaker 6>data science to identify the most dangerous men who are

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<v Speaker 6>poser threat to women and children. So you get all

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<v Speaker 6>these allegations of sexual violence, you follow the case by case,

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<v Speaker 6>but how do you spot the most dangerous man has

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<v Speaker 6>the most big risk out of ten thousands of cases.

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<v Speaker 6>Data science does that and then you throw the kitchen

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<v Speaker 6>singert getting him off the streets and in prison. Another use,

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<v Speaker 6>we've been using facial recognition on the streets to the

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<v Speaker 6>UK life facial recognition. I know that makes people here

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<v Speaker 6>feel a bit nervous. We've been really thoughtful and quite

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<v Speaker 6>about it. We've got eighty five percent public support for it,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're arresting over one thousand people year. It's dangerous offended,

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<v Speaker 6>wanted offenders. It's so powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I looked it up, folks. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's you know, a Lexus taught me how to

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<v Speaker 2>use Google Gemini and I'm killing it. Jasica t shares

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand cameras. You we have by this listing,

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred forty thousand cameras. You have eight times as

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<v Speaker 2>many cameras. You have eighty five percent public support from

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<v Speaker 2>where you said, sir Mark, what in God's name is

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<v Speaker 2>America getting wrong? And the idea of getting the thugs

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<v Speaker 2>off the street with cameras? So, I mean, my whole

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of this is slow horses.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's that's a great show, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great Is it real? It's slow horses? Horses?

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<v Speaker 6>And I hope my personal hygien is a bit better

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<v Speaker 6>than the lead character.

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<v Speaker 2>When you watch Emma Thompson and down Cemetery Road? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that real?

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<v Speaker 6>It's not. It's not real. It's great fun, though, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I watched these shows as well. They're fantastic

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<v Speaker 6>any more than a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>The wire is real. The cameras work right, that's the battle.

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<v Speaker 6>The cameras are fantastic and sort of what they do

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<v Speaker 6>is so we have. How about this our homicide solved

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<v Speaker 6>rate over ninety five percent of cases we solve. That's

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<v Speaker 6>where above American City is. That's partly about technology. It's

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<v Speaker 6>partly about great detectives, the facial recognition stuff. We've worked

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<v Speaker 6>hard to make sure we're using it ethically and carefully.

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<v Speaker 6>We're showing the public the results of the sub dangerous

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<v Speaker 6>sex offenders and the wanted people we're taking off the streets.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got eighty five percent for that support. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think we can in policing make the best use of

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<v Speaker 6>bond technology. We shouldn't be scared of it. He's got

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<v Speaker 6>to be thoughtful and clever about it, because if you

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<v Speaker 6>misuse it, you'll break that trust. And the thing I'm

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<v Speaker 6>most proud of what we're doing in trust in the

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<v Speaker 6>police is going up, even in this world where trust

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<v Speaker 6>in the state is so challenged and there's hostile states

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<v Speaker 6>trying to undermine it, and all of this difficult polarized dialogue.

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<v Speaker 6>Trust in the met is going up because of the

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<v Speaker 6>policing we're doing. Why are you here and here exchange

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<v Speaker 6>notes with, say, with Jessica Tisha and other other commissioners,

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<v Speaker 6>meeting up with the FBI colleagues because we do this

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<v Speaker 6>national cancterrorism work and that's important to sustain those relationships

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<v Speaker 6>and talk about case.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a plumber's convention.

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<v Speaker 6>Come out to the West coast as well to talk

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<v Speaker 6>to your god Junken.

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<v Speaker 5>Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the biggest challenge for you these days? In a

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<v Speaker 5>world where so much change, so much uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 6>So keeping pace with the technology, which is hard in

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<v Speaker 6>the public sector for all the reasons we've discussed, and

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<v Speaker 6>building trust in the world which is so angry and

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<v Speaker 6>polarized and all the hostilitybates that go on online is

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<v Speaker 6>so so difficult, and economic issues means we're a police

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<v Speaker 6>force which is having to get smaller, so doing better

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<v Speaker 6>while getting smaller as TRD, but we're arresting one thousand

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<v Speaker 6>people more a month than we were a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>years ago because of all the clever stuff we're doing

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<v Speaker 6>and fantastic people.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark I get one final questions critical. I noticed the

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<v Speaker 2>BBC's a small news organization over in London. You had

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<v Speaker 2>a blistering conversation that you need seventy pounds that's the

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<v Speaker 2>currency over there for policing a football teams of Premium

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<v Speaker 2>League like they're basically doing their security off your budget. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>as well, what in God's name are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>do about Totenham being relegated? I mean what does that

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<v Speaker 2>do north of London if Tottenham is relegated?

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<v Speaker 6>So most people outside London will probably celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna ask and for.

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<v Speaker 6>The fan from my jersey told us this, so I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna I'm not going to shed any tears if

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<v Speaker 6>they do get relegated. I'm most interesting where my team

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<v Speaker 6>get into the Champions League this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They look pretty good. Villa.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got a brilliant Spanish manager in Imra who's complete transformed.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you go to the you got the World Cup

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<v Speaker 6>coming here is what I'm you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to the concert in July at Eston Villa,

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<v Speaker 2>the Metal Concert?

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<v Speaker 6>No? I didn't think he was born one. I did

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<v Speaker 6>once seeing the A couple of decades ago. I saw

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<v Speaker 6>Bruce Springsteen at the park that was an amazing We

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<v Speaker 6>have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>But sir Mark, I have only one thing for you

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<v Speaker 2>to understand. John Pharaoh, when he grew up as a

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<v Speaker 2>tough kid in Coventry. He has a police blotter. The

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<v Speaker 2>things he did in school we're unspeakable. Next time you come,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll introduce you to John Farrell of Coventry, England.

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<v Speaker 6>He started a few historic clear ups from seeing Crawley

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<v Speaker 6>here with all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the men and women in duty. Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Jennis suits with us within the Texas, sutly could

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<v Speaker 2>be with us today doing a strategy there. What is

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<v Speaker 2>the operative strategy amid war?

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<v Speaker 7>You know right now? I think what we look at

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<v Speaker 7>is both tail risks are opening up right. The downside

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<v Speaker 7>tail risk, I think is a little bit wider, but

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<v Speaker 7>you also have the upside tail risk.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do well?

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<v Speaker 7>I think the portfolio here is the strategy is simply

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<v Speaker 7>stay invested, but shuffle the deck a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We're looking at getting a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>More invested with the US a little bit less susceptible

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<v Speaker 7>to higher energy prices. You're looking at maybe a little

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<v Speaker 7>valuation count because of the correction we've seen tech maybe

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<v Speaker 7>a place to hide here because it's you know, a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit more on the margin side, still decent revenues,

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<v Speaker 7>it's really how derating more recently so bottom line of states.

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<v Speaker 2>Means it cratered. That's Boston's securities analysts society raid.

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<v Speaker 5>Cratered jack about earnings. I mean, before the Iran War,

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<v Speaker 5>the focus was on earnings, and earnings were pretty darn

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<v Speaker 5>good out there for the quarter, and I think most

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<v Speaker 5>companies were pretty optimistic about the remainder of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you think is our earnings enough to support

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<v Speaker 5>these markets here?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think we're the starting point matters. So

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<v Speaker 7>we're coming in from a pretty good perspective. You've got

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<v Speaker 7>margins that are still pretty wide, so we can see

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit of maybe room for companies to absorb

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<v Speaker 7>higher energy prices that are built into that. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>again still up into the right. Maybe we take a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit off that. So maybe you go from fifteen

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<v Speaker 7>percent expected for next year to fourteen thirteen relative to

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<v Speaker 7>the rest of the world. That's still pretty good. So

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<v Speaker 7>when we talk about sort of positioning and portfolios, the

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<v Speaker 7>more defensive relative bias I think is still US and

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<v Speaker 7>US archs cap in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Could let's just say, because we had the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>the world actually outperformed the US last year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not you know, a lot of that was the weekending

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<v Speaker 5>of the US dollar last year, but so you still

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<v Speaker 5>feel more or feel comfortable with the maybe a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit overweight the US versus the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and again think about it more from a cyclical

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<v Speaker 7>versus growth trade. Right, part of the trade was that

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<v Speaker 7>we saw international developed I'll perform. It's because the cyclical

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<v Speaker 7>portion of the economy started to reaccelerate. Now there's some

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<v Speaker 7>questions about that going forward if we start to see

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<v Speaker 7>elevated energy prices for a prolong period of time. So

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<v Speaker 7>I think maybe you get the growth story coming back

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<v Speaker 7>into play, and that's where the US I think has

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit of an advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're at Boston University and you're in the party,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's that oriental rug when you go up the

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<v Speaker 2>stairs and all that and you're trying to be smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Wise guy, can you explain to me Walmart with a

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<v Speaker 2>pe forward of forty three and Microsoft with the pe

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty three? I think across the arc of my

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<v Speaker 2>career that started at Folly, you know where that is,

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<v Speaker 2>and the arc of my career that's never happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And I think part of this is the maybe

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<v Speaker 7>the AI story that's built into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>We sort of had that derating that we were just

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<v Speaker 7>talking about anything that was associated with potentially being adversely

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<v Speaker 7>impacted by AI. Sell it down self first, ask questions later,

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<v Speaker 7>Let's see how this plays itself out. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe Walmart is and maybe in that beneficiary as opposed

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<v Speaker 7>to being maybe eaten alive so to speak.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get that market wants a higher premium for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the biggest delinkage right now of common sense for

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners and viewers.

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<v Speaker 7>You know? To me, it comes back to that tech

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<v Speaker 7>backdrop again, right, what's the US good at. It's good

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<v Speaker 7>at innovation. That's one thing that I think we're always

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<v Speaker 7>going to be a strong port relative to the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of the world. And yet to see this massive derating

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<v Speaker 7>in here to me, thinks, are we really going to

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<v Speaker 7>see our sort of leadership in that area?

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<v Speaker 2>Given back, I don't think so. Okay, So I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix and I do want to see, if anything, And

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the Giants fabulous baseball park, Scott Steal Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>you told me it's perfect out there. I'm moving there

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<v Speaker 2>next week. And they're playing like the World Baseball people.

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<v Speaker 2>And a guy named Bragman comes up to the plate

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<v Speaker 2>the first pitch, the ball came down somewhere near flag staff.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of the Red Sox can a miss? Alex Bregman.

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<v Speaker 2>The narrative for the Red Sox just changed.

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<v Speaker 7>It's all about pitching and defense and then we'll scrap

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<v Speaker 7>out three to two wins.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it's coming down to, Dodgers of our youth exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, Raphael's like in San Francisco way, Hi. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex is like Humpty Million with the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can't put it on Roman Anthony. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the pitching staff. I'm telling you that that's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be the key here. If they stay healthy, they've

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<v Speaker 7>got four quality starters sound.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just my ute, Jack, I think, thank you, Alex

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<v Speaker 2>Bragman with the Cubs, it's going to be something to

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<v Speaker 2>say the least. Jack. Jennis Suit's with his lead portfolio

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<v Speaker 2>strategists at Texas. Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>coming up after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bloomberg Surveillance Podcast. Catch us live

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<v Speaker 2>now the newspaper is much needed. Here's Alexis gustavorus.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, March madness is here, guys. And there is

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<v Speaker 8>an article on the Wall Street Journal that says you

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<v Speaker 8>have to think like an investor to win your bracket pool.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what that means.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't pick Duke? Yeah, once again, we know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Duke enters the NCAA tournament as the number one overall seed,

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<v Speaker 8>and the Wall Street Journal says that's exactly why. The

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<v Speaker 8>smartest thing you can do is to pick against them.

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<v Speaker 8>They said the Blue Devils are right now the most

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<v Speaker 8>overvalued team. Yep, so you bet against them, it's strategically optimal.

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<v Speaker 8>They also said there's an extra incentive for shorting Duke.

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<v Speaker 8>Two starters are injured, so they're limping their way in,

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<v Speaker 8>and the statistical models are inflating or might be inflating

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<v Speaker 8>their chances.

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<v Speaker 5>One of those starters is coming back for the tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, see I knew you're on it the inside.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, they're all freshmen. The reason that they never

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<v Speaker 5>win since this playing the one and done freshman kids

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<v Speaker 5>is because they're kids. They can't pay against men. When

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<v Speaker 5>it gets to the time, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they allow this? We have to stop the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Why in God's name do they allow this?

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<v Speaker 5>Because they should. The players should get compensated because they're

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<v Speaker 5>creating huge value for the university. So they give a

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<v Speaker 5>ton of money, absolutely whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They give them a ton of money to stay around.

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<v Speaker 5>If they want to stay, they can say if they

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<v Speaker 5>want to leave, they could leave. So it's it's a

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<v Speaker 5>it's a fair system. The players are getting value for

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<v Speaker 5>or getting paid for their value. It's just hard to

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<v Speaker 5>build a team.

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<v Speaker 2>That excuse us. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, let's get back to it. Because which team should

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<v Speaker 8>you pick? Which sort of begs the question? And according

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<v Speaker 8>to the paper Michigan. Yeah, so the Wolverines they say

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<v Speaker 8>have nearly the same title chances as do but they

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<v Speaker 8>say they are the most value of any team in

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<v Speaker 8>the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell West law Fia. To the end of that boiler.

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<v Speaker 5>Up, Yep, you who did it exactly? You got the

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<v Speaker 5>boiler Makers going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the boiler Makers going all the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do have Triple UNC taking them out because Trimble's

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<v Speaker 2>been there for four years. Yep.

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<v Speaker 8>Next, all right, it is not just investors now some

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<v Speaker 8>states are adding gold to their investment portfolios. This one's

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<v Speaker 8>from the Wall Street Journal. So some states actually now

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<v Speaker 8>have laws on the books requiring them to buy precious

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<v Speaker 8>medals as a hedge against economic terminial. Wyoming is one

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<v Speaker 8>of them. They spent ten million dollars on gold bars

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<v Speaker 8>the actual physical gold back in December. It's now valued

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<v Speaker 8>at eleven point six million, so not bad for a

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<v Speaker 8>few months investment. Other states also looking at doing this Utah,

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<v Speaker 8>West Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia all pursuing legislation to further integrate

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<v Speaker 8>these precious medals into their economies.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, there are critics.

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<v Speaker 8>Wyoming's governor says it's a liquid golds to but they're hedging.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a hedge. So I'm not sure. I'd never

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<v Speaker 5>heard of them owning the physical goal. Yes, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>Wyoming is actually putting it in a building that once

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<v Speaker 8>belonged to the Casper Star tribune'sned by Wyoming's reserves, sort

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<v Speaker 8>of like, I don't know, it's the Old West, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>got that Old West feeling. All right, here's a good one,

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<v Speaker 8>especially for coin collectors. I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 8>collect coinsnies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very cool.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so here's something for you. The US Men has

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<v Speaker 8>rolled out temporary commemorative coins to celebrate our nation's two

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<v Speaker 8>hundred fifty of the dime.

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<v Speaker 3>Is very controversial here. Do we know why?

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<v Speaker 8>It's because on the flip side of it, the new

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<v Speaker 8>design left out the olive branch, which is supposed to

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<v Speaker 8>signify piece. We still have the eagle with the talon

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<v Speaker 8>holding thirteen arrows, I guess for the original thirteen colonies.

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<v Speaker 8>But they say now beneath the eagle is the inscription

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<v Speaker 8>liberty over tyranny, so this temporary design was finalized in

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty four, before President Trump took office. Some thought

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<v Speaker 8>he had something to do with this. The artist and

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<v Speaker 8>the US men say it symbolizes the early US quest

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<v Speaker 8>for freedom from Britain. But don't get too crazy about it, everybody,

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<v Speaker 8>It's only here for a year.

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