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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and

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Speaker 2: Newi Sdrugs.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back. It has been a minute. When

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Speaker 3: I say a minute, fellas, June third was the last

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Speaker 3: time to play, Okay, it is now July twenty sixth.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes. A lot has changed in the world.

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Speaker 5: A lot, A lot they change.

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Speaker 3: In the world, that's true, except contracts. People need contracts,

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Speaker 3: to need contract Sir, all right, Heckma Harrison, how.

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Speaker 4: Have you been my man?

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Speaker 6: Man, I've been blessed. Man, I've been good. We were

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Speaker 6: just talking about where we went and vacations.

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Speaker 5: I am unwound, ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome Church.

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Speaker 7: We know you you stay traveling out, but blessed, just

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Speaker 7: like heck said, Man, having a good time. Ready to

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Speaker 7: get back into this thing, man, catch yourself.

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Speaker 4: All right, Hey man, I'm here. That's the beauty of it, baby,

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Speaker 4: just being here.

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Speaker 3: By the way, congratulations to all the folks here that

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys who got a bunch of Emmy Awards nominations.

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Speaker 3: Emmy nominations came out, man, So the congratulations the crew,

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Speaker 3: I mean the documentaries, the Blue if you haven't seen

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Speaker 3: any of The Deep Blues or any of the stuff,

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Speaker 3: the document they're awesome work.

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Speaker 4: So congratulations. Everyone's out there now.

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Speaker 3: Killing it because we know Chris Ban saying, Scott pers

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Speaker 3: So everybody's out there working getting stuff done.

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Speaker 4: I watched the podcast to Break today.

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Speaker 3: They looked all good, and they got all the California

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Speaker 3: somebody got all the last everybody. So so we're happy

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Speaker 3: to get all the podcasts back here going, especially right

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Speaker 3: here with Aristocrat Gaming Official. We can say it, Aristocrat

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Speaker 3: gave it. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We got

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Speaker 3: a lot of places we can go to. But I

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Speaker 3: want to start with, to me, the most important player

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Speaker 3: because it's the most important position in the in the sport,

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Speaker 3: it is the quarterback, Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 4: What I heard from Dak, and I'll start with you,

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Speaker 4: Church was a guy that's okay if he has to leave.

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Speaker 7: I'm one hundred percent in agreement with you on that.

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Speaker 7: He looked like, you know what, I'm in a good

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Speaker 7: space and rightfully.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, if you.

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Speaker 7: Look at it, the man has all the leverage when

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Speaker 7: it comes to this contract negotiation.

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Speaker 5: If I'm Dak Prescott, I'm getting what I asked for.

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Speaker 7: Because when you look at it, when you look at

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Speaker 7: the National Football League as a whole, you rarely, if

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Speaker 7: ever see a guy, a quarterback in his prime, a

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Speaker 7: top ten quarterback.

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Speaker 5: We ain't talking about just some you know, random guy

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Speaker 7: We're talking about the top ten quarterback out there in

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Speaker 7: his prime, hitting the free agency market and a team not.

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Speaker 5: Getting anything back for him.

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Speaker 7: That's what the Cowboys are facing right now if they

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Speaker 7: let him hit that free agency market, because we all

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Speaker 7: understand dollars talk, and if he gets to that free

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Speaker 7: agent market and he starts getting a I'll gi you this.

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Speaker 7: I'll give you that I've been in the free agency market.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's just like, man, I want this, but

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Speaker 7: then somebody else tap you on the shoulder. I got

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Speaker 7: this for you too. So the Cowboys need to get

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Speaker 7: this thing done. And it might not happen before camp ends.

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Speaker 7: It might not happen, you know, during the season, but

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Speaker 7: it better happened before free agency because I'm telling you,

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Speaker 7: this guy's gonna be one of the top free agents

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Speaker 7: out there if he ends up getting out there.

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Speaker 5: And like I just said, money talks.

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Speaker 7: So Dak Prescott's in a real good space right now

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Speaker 7: and he understands that he just got to go out there.

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Speaker 7: You know, God willing have a healthy season and this

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Speaker 7: guy's gonna break the bank. But the Cowboys have got

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Speaker 7: to get this thing done because you don't want to

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Speaker 7: reset it. They already got lucky one time getting this

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Speaker 5: They found them in the fourth round.

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Speaker 7: They can't sit there and tell me, yeah, we got

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Speaker 7: Dak because we knew he was gonna be our franchise.

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Speaker 5: That's not the case. They got lucky, all right. They

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Speaker 5: got lucky with their past too.

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Speaker 7: You know, franchise quarterback Romo undrafted, then you got Dak

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Speaker 7: Prescott here. So I don't think rolling dice again trying

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Speaker 7: to figure that thing out will be a great strategy.

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Speaker 7: I think what you gotta do. You gotta get the

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Speaker 7: franchise got done, and you got to get them signed.

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Speaker 7: And I'm sure the Cowboys will find a way to

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Speaker 5: BC.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you and my feeling on this is simple.

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Speaker 6: I think that Dak has given you, he's shown you,

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Speaker 6: especially going back to last season second in the MVP votes,

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Speaker 6: that obviously he can get it done during the regular season.

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Speaker 5: All right. The argument with Dak now is and this

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Speaker 5: isn't even moving the goalpost. This is what it is.

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Speaker 6: He only has two playoff wins in his tenure here. Okay,

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Speaker 6: so nine years, two playoff wins, and everybody saying like, look,

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Speaker 6: when the big moments come on the big stage, where

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Speaker 6: are you? And I think that's where you start to

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Speaker 6: separate from him. Thirty six wins the last three seasons,

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Speaker 6: that's nothing to sniff, that's nothing to say. All right, well,

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Speaker 6: that's a mediocre career. It's not I think any team,

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Speaker 6: other thirty one teams in the league will take those

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Speaker 6: type of victories. It's just the playoff victories. And Dak

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Speaker 6: has to get to the point to where he is

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Speaker 6: establishing himself as a presence in the playoffs. Look, Barry,

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Speaker 6: this is this is weird to think of a guy

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Speaker 6: being in his last season to have an opportunity to

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Speaker 6: reach free agencies. No other team, if no other team,

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Speaker 6: would have their star quarterback be in this position. But

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Speaker 6: somehow Dak has found himself here again, all right. But

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Speaker 6: I think his answer was right on point because he's

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Speaker 6: not maligned to his fate. He's just like, look, it

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Speaker 6: could happen to me, It could happen to any of us,

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Speaker 6: because it's a business. But the truth of the matter is,

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Speaker 6: I want to believe that this franchise is going to

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Speaker 6: go forward with the guy that they've invested this time

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Speaker 6: with and make him a priority to get it done,

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Speaker 6: because none of these other things make sense unless you

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Speaker 6: have that apex, that guy at the quarterback position. We've

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Speaker 6: seen so many teams that on the brink get rid

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Speaker 6: I don't think this organization is in start over from

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Speaker 6: scratch mode. In spite of what Jerry is saying, you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't think that he wants to start all over

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Speaker 5: So I look for this to get done just like you.

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Speaker 6: But I mean some of the things that's being said,

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Speaker 6: some of the things that's been said in all seasons,

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Speaker 6: some of the things have been said just yesterday. It's

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Speaker 6: a head scratcher, and it makes you wonder, hey, is

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Speaker 6: to get it done? Does he want to see what

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Speaker 6: free agency looks like.

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Speaker 3: He said he wanted to be here, and I take

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Speaker 3: his word at that, and you've heard Jerry say that

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Speaker 3: he wants him here as well. Jerry's this is by

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Speaker 3: Jerry and his decision to make not just Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 3: but basically everybody play this thing out. He wants everybody

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Speaker 3: saying happened to Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Red Far, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 3: Steve mcnahir won an MVP finished someplace else. Look at

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Speaker 3: When I look at Dak Prescott situation, I just with you. Heck,

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. I really don't get the most

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Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to throw shade, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: being real. If Trevor Lawrence can get paid forty five

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Speaker 4: I said Jerry?

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Speaker 3: If I'm like, maybe what you're doing Okay, this guy's

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Speaker 3: gotten paid fifty five million dollars, hasn't won a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: still trying to operate off potential?

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Speaker 4: Why are we still trying to play this game with

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Speaker 3: That's what I would be if I were Steven Private

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Speaker 3: somebody else who's cap guy, Like, just just you know,

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Speaker 3: off the record, in front of me, help me understand

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Speaker 3: what are we doing, because this is where it's going.

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Speaker 3: You don't have the heck you talked about playoff success.

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Speaker 3: We've just saw the market of people getting paid. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Justin Herbert got paid, right, So this is

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Speaker 3: not about show me what you've done. This is just

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Speaker 3: the way the market is. I always say, baby, this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: Well, you need to prove this or that. No you don't.

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Speaker 4: Now you don't, because the Jacksonville Jaguars they just showed you.

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Speaker 3: Nah, you can be skittish. You could be skittish and yeah,

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Speaker 3: kind of their number one pick in the draft, Trevor Lawrence. Well,

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Speaker 3: what we thought he was gonna be coming out of Clemson?

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Speaker 4: We thought, I know, I did.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to take the next step vision.

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Speaker 3: That was a division I thought they was. Why I

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Speaker 3: don't gamble man? The money right there Jacksonville, you know,

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Speaker 3: his rookie quarterback. He was rolling past there, and so

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Speaker 3: they were not good and he was not good, and

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Speaker 3: to get paid. Jerry at this point in time, they've

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Speaker 3: checkmated you.

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Speaker 4: So they got you. So they got the leverage. Heck,

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Speaker 4: they got the leverage.

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Speaker 5: You know, Look, I think.

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Speaker 6: I love what you're saying, man, and I think that

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Speaker 6: when I look at right now, just even yesterday, I

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: Nobody can dispute that he's made more money for the

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Speaker 5: Is going to put him as send him to that level.

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Speaker 6: But where his fatal where his flaw has came in

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Speaker 6: these last fifty years, or how are you dating back?

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Speaker 6: Is his negotiation tactics with guys that he's drafted that

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Speaker 6: you want your you want to draft guys and you

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Speaker 6: want them to ascend to be the number one guys

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Speaker 6: in the league and pay them that price. But waiting

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Speaker 6: until the last minute doesn't do anything. But like you

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Speaker 6: just said, it changes the leverage. Now that has leverage.

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Speaker 6: Guess what CD has leverage? The only one in a

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Speaker 6: couple of months. Micah's gonna have dron Bland is gonna

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Speaker 4: You needed to get this done. And the same thing

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Speaker 3: Once once we saw old boy Philly get thirty two,

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Speaker 4: We're at training camp and I'm still confused. And I

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: The press conference came and I still left there like,

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Speaker 3: So the closest I got was a staffer telling me

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Speaker 3: Jerry's not happy that he's paid so many people through

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Speaker 3: I'm just so saying, Okay, I've done it this way

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Speaker 3: I've not seen it. So guess what everybody's singing for?

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Speaker 3: This sufer coach quarterback. See, everybody got to sing, You

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Speaker 4: Listening to Jerry. It made sense. But Ceedee Lambs got leverage.

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Speaker 4: You can't make him sing.

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Speaker 5: You got it, you need it?

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Speaker 7: What's the alternative? Don't there is no It was the

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Speaker 5: Uh, Well, we quickly made a trick.

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Speaker 4: That's the alternative carrying bricks.

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Speaker 5: Receivers. But that's the alternative if you don't get these

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Speaker 4: I mean that was after death.

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Speaker 3: Remember, spread it around the DA didn't have to feel

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Speaker 7: Well I hear that, get afraid that's I mean?

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Speaker 6: And we you know, this is a copycat league. And

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Speaker 5: Same vein.

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Speaker 4: Alan, he is not Danny Ammondo.

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Speaker 6: But you figured that out quickly, and then you had

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Speaker 6: other side of it, I mean, not even trying to

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Speaker 6: play the devil's advocate here. There's seventeen point five million

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Speaker 6: so even though he has that leverage, does he sacrifice

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Speaker 5: I don't think he does. I don't think that's like Le'Veon,

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Speaker 5: I don't see.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bell situation is so extreme to go

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Speaker 5: cancel all that stuff.

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Speaker 7: You all right, you dog's gonna be out there first, hey,

442
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Speaker 7: but just staying right behind him and get the movements.

443
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Speaker 7: Come on, man, you said, my man up? Man, you

444
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Speaker 7: just hate and I see it all the time. When

445
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Speaker 7: I played, it was just like, man, you got somebody

446
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Speaker 7: breathing on your neck. First round pick, first round pick,

447
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Speaker 7: like just going cirtle, follow the money follow. Then you're

448
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Speaker 7: just basically telling the man you're gonna be our swing guy.

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Speaker 6: Like that's not you know, nothing about that was alarming

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Speaker 6: to me. When I saw seventy one out there, I

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Speaker 6: was like, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 6: You know. I didn't even like, I didn't want to

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Speaker 6: look at it as them being insulting or anything like

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Speaker 6: that to Doga because you know, at the end of

456
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Speaker 6: the day, they're working overtime to get Tyler Guiden ready,

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Speaker 6: and that's because they have to, because I don't I

458
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Speaker 6: don't think that as a first round draft pick, he's

459
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Speaker 6: going to get a red shirt season at all.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's gonna get thrown to the wolves.

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Speaker 6: But if offensive line is a group that you're looking

462
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Speaker 6: at linebacker's where I'm looking. I mean, in truth be told,

463
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Speaker 6: last season, I think the nightmare of the season was

464
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Speaker 6: seeing Leyton Vandersch go down with the neck injury that

465
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Speaker 6: imminently retired him. But I think in the off season

466
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Speaker 6: with bringing you in and Eric Kendricks, I think it's it.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a great addition to this defense, especially

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Speaker 6: with your defensive coordinator. But you also question how much

469
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Speaker 6: does he have left in the tank. Great in Minnesota

470
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Speaker 6: obviously hit the Chargers, maybe not as great, but still

471
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Speaker 6: the guy that understands this, this this system. And last

472
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Speaker 6: year you also were playing with some undersized guys at linebacker,

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Speaker 6: and look, man, if it just if you just go

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Speaker 6: back to the Green Bay game, if you just go

475
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Speaker 6: back and turn on the Green Bay tape, Aaron Jones

476
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Speaker 6: had his way with our linebacker group and in their

477
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Speaker 6: offensive line, they ripped our linebackers. And we have to

478
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Speaker 6: find a way to get some guys at that second

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Speaker 6: level that are able to come downhill, blitz, do whatever

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Speaker 6: you need. But also you have to have other guys

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Speaker 6: that can fill in those spaces when you're trying to

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Speaker 6: tinker and move with Micah around. Let's I mean, we

483
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Speaker 6: hadn't said his name, we ain't talked much about him.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, this is a defense that

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Speaker 6: is featuring Michaeh. Parsons and if we don't have someone

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Speaker 6: at the linebacker position that you trust, then you start

487
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Speaker 6: having to play with Micah at off ball.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a fact. And definitely you know look

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Speaker 7: out for over shown as well. Yes, at that second level,

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Speaker 7: I think he can be like kind of a chess piece,

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Speaker 7: kind of that.

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Speaker 5: Guy you can move around.

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Speaker 7: He may not start because you're gonna have Kendricks, you

494
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Speaker 7: gonna have Clark right there and need more beef in there.

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Speaker 7: But that's a guy to look out for because he

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Speaker 7: was explosive before he went down with the injury. But

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Speaker 7: for me, I'm looking at this cornerback group because you

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Speaker 7: got Diggs on Pup, which I think is gonna be

499
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Speaker 7: as a smart move because we've seen it happen too

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Speaker 7: many times where you look at a guy like Gallup

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Speaker 7: who had that ACL injury, came back, was never really

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Speaker 7: quite the same receiver. Shout out to him. He just

503
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Speaker 7: retired and everything, hopefully everything's going on good with him.

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Speaker 7: Then you look at who was that offensive lineman who

505
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Speaker 7: had the Terrence Steele had the ACL struggled early on,

506
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Speaker 7: but then came along towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 5: I think he got out there a little too quick.

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Speaker 7: So with Diggs on the pup, you know, hopefully they

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Speaker 7: slowly put him in because you got to make sure

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Speaker 7: your number one cornerback is ready to go towards the

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Speaker 7: latter part of the season. If he's not there to

512
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Speaker 7: begin the season, reck you know, week one through three,

513
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Speaker 7: let's just say, you know, who's gonna be that third.

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Speaker 5: Guy to kind of step in there.

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Speaker 7: You got got Lewis at the nickel, you got Bland

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Speaker 7: on the outside. Maybe a na Shan Wright steps in there,

517
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Speaker 7: maybe the young draft pick steps in there. But that's

518
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Speaker 7: the spot I'm gonna keep my eye on because we

519
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Speaker 7: understood what happened towards the end of that season. Last year,

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Speaker 7: people started to pick on that secondary, especially the Green

521
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Speaker 7: Bay Packers. I mean they had the two way go

522
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Speaker 7: with the running attack and passing attack. But that's gonna

523
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Speaker 7: be a position where I'm gonna keep my eye on,

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Speaker 7: especially if Diggs isn't ready or at full tempo those

525
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Speaker 7: first couple weeks.

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Speaker 3: Of the season so physically unable to perform that you're

527
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Speaker 3: talking about what pup means. Man, heck, but your point

528
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Speaker 3: about the linebackers makes me also wonder is this where

529
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Speaker 3: Will McLay starts to do some work and do we

530
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Speaker 3: see guys that are cut guys just just basically or

531
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Speaker 3: is everybody you need on the team right now and

532
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Speaker 3: that that can happen during the season, or it's like, hey, look,

533
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Speaker 3: you know what we're gonna go.

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Speaker 4: All we got right now, Let's see who's here. And man,

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Speaker 4: this one hurts when Jabrell Cox did not develop. Oh man,

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Speaker 4: this this is this one.

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Speaker 3: And this is not a dig at the organization because

538
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Speaker 3: they've done a great job of drafting. Okay, great, not

539
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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna work out, but this is one where you

540
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Speaker 3: look at Clear you're like, man, this guy you had

541
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Speaker 3: high hosts for it. He didn't come through with injury,

542
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Speaker 3: just never became that guy. And this is where it

543
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Speaker 3: hurts you. And then you kind of look at the

544
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Speaker 3: flip side where Deron Bland has come through. You know

545
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Speaker 3: when about these day three picks, you know we get

546
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Speaker 3: it hit on a day through like brand Ai, we

547
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Speaker 3: feel good you you miss with a guy like Jabrill Katcha.

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Speaker 4: That hurts you. And that's where you're kind of right

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Speaker 4: now searching.

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Speaker 6: Now, this is you know, going back on the other

551
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Speaker 6: side with talking about the cornerbacks. I think that that

552
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Speaker 6: group is particularly important to watch as well. But I

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Speaker 6: wanted to ask you and what Trava Digs blowing his ACL.

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Speaker 6: I think it was week three, week three.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was early early.

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Speaker 6: Does that give you any more confidence that, Look, he's

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Speaker 6: had pretty much an entire year now instead of like

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Speaker 6: six months, seven months like the rest of those guys

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Speaker 6: when they got hurt.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, definitely when you if you do, you know,

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Speaker 7: a big time injury like that, Like when I did

562
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Speaker 7: my achilles it was week like two I think in

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Speaker 7: the season, and so that gave me the whole entire season,

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Speaker 7: all off season to get back right to where when

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Speaker 7: training camp came around, I was itching to get back

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Speaker 7: out there.

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Speaker 5: I was ready. I was established. So hopefully it's the

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Speaker 5: same with Diggs. I mean, the ACL injury.

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Speaker 7: We see guys bouncing back like that nowadays with modern medicine,

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Speaker 7: but I still would like them to.

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Speaker 5: Just just make sure, just slow play it, just make

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Speaker 5: sure it's okay, because like.

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Speaker 7: You said, Cox, Jabiro Cox with the ACL Terry Steels

574
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Speaker 7: started off slow, gallup never kind of came back from that.

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Speaker 7: So we see a string of what happens when these

576
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Speaker 7: guys do these injuries but then try to come back.

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Speaker 7: And I understand what the players, that's what you know.

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Speaker 7: You're a football player. You want to get out there

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Speaker 7: and you want to prove I'm back. I want to

580
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Speaker 7: be a part of his defense and I want to

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Speaker 7: just right where I left off, get interceptions and being

582
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Speaker 7: that guy. But you gotta slow play it, man, you

583
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Speaker 7: gotta slow play it. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 7: So hopefully they do that and when he gets back

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Speaker 7: on the field, he's back one hundred.

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Speaker 6: Percently, I also wanted to go back to what you're

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Speaker 6: saying about the linebacker position. We have a rookie from

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Speaker 6: Notre Dame Maristley a foul I leave is his last name,

589
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Speaker 6: six two two thirty nine, a guy that Notre Dame

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Speaker 6: was a tackling He's a specimen one, but he is

591
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Speaker 6: a guy that is sidelined asideline.

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Speaker 5: I mean he'll hit you.

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Speaker 6: And I think you bring in a guy like that,

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Speaker 6: and really a lot of people hadn't been talking expectation

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Speaker 6: for him, but a guy like him being able to

596
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Speaker 6: be in the same room with an Eric Kendricks, you

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Speaker 6: hope that some of that can rub off on him

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Speaker 6: because that's how important that linebacker group is. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we haven't said much about our one tech, but we

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Speaker 6: are going to talk about our one tech Monzie Smith

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the August eleven preseason game against the Rams.

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: So they're training camp right now. The pads go on Tuesday,

659
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: so it's just basically, you.

660
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: Know, underwear Olympics. Yes, thank you, thanks. We're not saying much.

661
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: And I say that because the next person we're going

662
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: to talk about is Mozzie Smith, last year's first round

663
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: draft pick from Michigan who.

664
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: Don't do it.

665
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: Mazi did not.

666
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: Deliver with what everyone thought. What you thought you were

667
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 3: getting was a big space eater up there. De tackle

668
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: that was going to make a difference didn't happen.

669
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: In fact, he lost weight. He had shoulder surgery.

670
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: So McCarthy was asked about him today and he said, quote,

671
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: he's getting there.

672
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: That means yeah.

673
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: And then he said, when asked about his weight by

674
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Calvin Watkins, he's close.

675
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: Guys. One thing I learned from Jason Garrett listen to

676
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: what they don't.

677
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how's Michael look Oh, Michael looks great, because

678
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: that's about him not being around.

679
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: Michael looks great. You know, he's all good. That's Mossie

680
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: getting close.

681
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 5: He's almost Yeah, it's good.

682
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: Like prinstance in the frog almost man, almost almost.

683
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 8: Good.

684
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: Mary, that's not good.

685
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: It's not good at all.

686
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 14: And I thought he was good like And I kind

687
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 14: of feel bad for Bozzie a little bits.

688
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Going around everywhere he's almost somebody's getting close close, but

689
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: asking about the way he he need to be. He

690
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: was once at Beefeater, Okay, just gonna get a big guy,

691
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: you know, plug plug up the middle of Vince will

692
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: Fork and thats way. And so apparently he's not back

693
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: there yet. And so when asked about it, Mike said,

694
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: he's close. And I'm thinking it's training camp. As a player, Barry,

695
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: you are once a training camp.

696
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're what does this mean?

697
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 7: You know, you gotta be by the time training camp

698
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 7: comes around, you better be in shape and where you're

699
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 7: supposed to be at. But he's supposed to be gain weight,

700
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 7: and that's and I don't Undertand maybe it's you know,

701
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 7: he wasn't able to work out as much because of

702
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 7: the shoulder and all that stuff.

703
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: Maybe that's the only thing I can think of.

704
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 7: But by this time, you gotta be ready, you gotta

705
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 7: be act, you gotta be where this team wants you

706
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: to be. And I kind of feel bad for him

707
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 7: away because he's he kind of got a lot of

708
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 7: pressure on him coming in here because he was supposed

709
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 7: to be the savior of the run defense, Like coming

710
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 7: in this guy is gonna be a spaceier. Like you said,

711
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 7: he's gonna you know, all our problems are solved because

712
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 7: we have Mozzie Smith. And when you don't really live

713
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 7: up to that, you already know what happens when you

714
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 7: had the star on you, you don't live up to

715
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 7: what you were the building, I mean, it's gonna it's

716
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 7: gonna pile on you. So there is a lot of

717
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 7: pressure on him, and hopefully he's able to, you know,

718
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 7: kind of at least have a better season.

719
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: At least just just show up on tape a little bit.

720
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: We don't need you to be Warren Cyper Aaron Donald,

721
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 7: We don't needed you to have eleven sacks at the

722
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 7: d tackle spy.

723
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 5: Just keep that line. Then, don't worry about he pulled

724
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: out some big names. Don't worry about don't worry about

725
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: it about like that.

726
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: My god, Kennedy Hayes, hands word, Kenny Hankins.

727
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: Can he be Hankins out there? That's all That's all

728
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: we asked for him at this point, lower the bar, brother,

729
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: but you add context.

730
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 6: You add context to the situation with him coming from

731
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 6: shoulder surgery, not able to participate in O t A S.

732
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 5: How does that set him back again.

733
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 6: I'm giving a little grace here again in the second season,

734
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 6: but you understand that the spite lot is firmly placed

735
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: on you if you are Monsie Smith and you have

736
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 6: to perform. You've heard see I've heard things from coach

737
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy saying that, look, you know, on this defense,

738
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 6: we're going to use him the way that he was

739
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 6: being used at Michigan, and we're not going to ask

740
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: him to do anything special. We're not gonna ask him

741
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: to read and react or do it. Just here's your gap,

742
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 6: go okay, whatever that is. This run defense has suffered

743
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 6: because of its inability to get any kind of penetration

744
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 6: up front to any kind of you know, those two

745
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 6: gap space eaters. You're just not getting that, and guys

746
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: are getting pretty much bulldozed out of the way.

747
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: Insert the Green Bay tape right here and Buffalo.

748
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: It is so many times that we saw throughout the

749
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 6: season where offensive linemen or just you know, they were

750
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 6: just teeing off on our guys. Mazi is in another situation.

751
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: You come back, you get a guy Justin Rodgers from

752
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 6: from Auburn, the seventh round pick, and hopefully the size

753
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 6: on this guy he can be he can be one

754
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 6: of those you know Walmart parking polls for you. You know,

755
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 6: just put him in there and just let him crowd

756
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 6: everything up. You don't need, you don't need much because

757
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: of what you have on the outside. But there's so

758
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 6: much attention gonna be placed on this defense with the

759
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 6: fact that this this early strength of the strength of

760
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 6: the schedule. Starting out, you start off in Cleveland, regardless

761
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 6: of what we say, whatever you think, it's like going

762
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 6: back to Geydon. You know, you start off with Miles Garrett,

763
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 6: you start off with Dick Chubb. You start off with

764
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 6: the guy that you know, he is.

765
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: A sea gap, the sea gap runner, and he is

766
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: going to test you. Guys.

767
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: Don't sit out there. Then you get and then then

768
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: you got the Saints at home. Then you go to Pittsburgh,

769
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: then you get the Giants on a short week.

770
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 5: Then Lamar is in there. Something no, no, I'm.

771
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: Sorry, it's Cleveland New Orleans.

772
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: Mean yeah, Cleveland home against New Orleans home against Baltimore

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: at the Giants, then you at Pittsburgh.

774
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, you.

775
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 5: Talk about talking about there Henry coming through that row. Yes, crow, Yes,

776
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying.

777
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 6: And only and it's just it's only up from there

778
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: when you start looking at the running back persons go

779
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: down the way. Yeah, got a lot, you got a

780
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 6: lot to deal with, and a run, and they running

781
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 6: in a defense that has not been able to stop

782
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: the run. And I think that has been everybody's in

783
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: mom when they've come up against the Dallas Cowboys defense.

784
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: You have these great pass rushers. Guys get up the field. Great,

785
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: all right, fine, guess what we'll do. We'll run right

786
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 6: behind them. It's just no problem. We have to get

787
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: that fixed. And Zimmer has a man, he has the

788
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: task in his lap right now.

789
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

790
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 8: Man.

791
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: Does the carpenter have his tools?

792
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: Does he have the tool hamer, the tools shark? Yeah,

793
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: a Dole screwdriver. You know, it's just you know, so

794
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: hopefully gets closed.

795
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: I hope you no, no, no, no, hope. I didn't know.

796
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: Somebody on social media tell me is gonna be good

797
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: this year? I said, based on what makes someone you know?

798
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: I said, you haven't seen him do anything, you know,

799
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: other than you just you just hope because he's a cowboy,

800
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: that he's going to be good. I mean, what did

801
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: we see from Terrence Steele and Jayalen Tolbert after disappointing

802
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: rookie years they went and did the worst. And so

803
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: you that and then you heard McCarthy and other people

804
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: constantly telling you what they were doing. Once again, heck,

805
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: what are they not saying. They're not saying that, Hey man,

806
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: we saw him here every day.

807
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: You should have seen it. You didn't.

808
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: You're not hearing that, And that for me is just like, Okay,

809
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: I got this part of the game down. And really

810
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: for all our cowboy fans because you listened to the

811
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy press conference, listen to what he says, man

812
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: Michael boom boom boom Boomzi ain't get close like we're doing.

813
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: And you're feeling good about.

814
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: Him, Manning, you're doing that speaks volumes. I know we

815
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: started talking about Dak Prescott. You know, I love the player.

816
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: No, not just that you know, we have a connection

817
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: that's you know, but beyond player.

818
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: I mean, so he's effusive about it, and Jason would

819
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: be effusive about Dak and.

820
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: Then you go ask him about somebody like Terrence Williams

821
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: and it wasn't the same thing.

822
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about the play, So listen to

823
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: what they're not saying and then listen to who they're praising.

824
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: And right now you just getting closed.

825
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: That's a scary that's a scary thought.

826
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 6: And that just goes back to what you were saying

827
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 6: about Jabril Cox and guy's not working out at times

828
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 6: that you needed them, because right now, if that development

829
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 6: had happened the way you need it, you probably wouldn't

830
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 6: have an aeric KENDRICKX here. He'd be your heir apparent

831
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: in this situation. And Mazie with obviously his draft where

832
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: he was drafted, you would like to think at this

833
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 6: point he's ready to take over the mountil even after

834
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: you had a guy like Hankins here.

835
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: And what you're saying, heck leads into this.

836
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: If this team is going to be a good team

837
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: and a team that wins playoff games, Mazzie Smith has

838
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 3: to become a contributory.

839
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, you just can't be out here for

840
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: you know, a few plays.

841
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: No, you've got to be on the field in a

842
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: role where you are contributing mightily, and right now we

843
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: don't know.

844
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: It's the underwear Olympics that can't hit until Tuesday.

845
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: And when they do practice and pads on Tuesday, are

846
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: they gonna let him go or they're gonna hold him

847
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: back a little bit the shoulder.

848
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: That's the next thing.

849
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: But we've got to start to see something from this

850
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: young man if they're going to be good. Because they

851
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: didn't go out and address the problem early in the

852
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: draft at all, to say, hey.

853
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: Look, we can't just trust him. We're gonna go find

854
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: somebody else.

855
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: They're like, you know, that's the hope, hope he's gonna

856
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 3: be okay, all right, now he's back.

857
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 5: Is running round Mike, no man, please know.

858
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

859
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

860
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: This is where Cowboy fans should be frustrated because we've

861
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: seen this has been the issue for three years and

862
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: it's not been addressed. And you go back and look

863
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: at the Chiefs. Okay, and Patrick Mahomes is great. That

864
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: was funny when Jerry tried to compare himself to Patrick Mahomes.

865
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: But Chris Jones has been so so good and if

866
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: you look at any Cowboy super Bowl winning team, the

867
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: defensive line has always been good. They always have outstanding players,

868
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: going back to the seventies. You always, you know, you

869
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: dominant defensive line play. And the tackles here right now,

870
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: it's a problem. And this is why you go to

871
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: training camp and you see what happens. But yes, to me,

872
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: Mozie Smith is someone we should look at as much

873
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: as I tell you, the offensive line is what I'm

874
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: looking at, because to me, if the D line is

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Speaker 3: the D line has been, we've seen you. You can win, well,

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Speaker 3: you won't go for a playoffs, but you can win

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Speaker 3: the division. But if this old line isn't straight and

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Speaker 3: you've got a D line's got issues.

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Speaker 5: Baby.

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Speaker 4: This is this is how we end up all talking

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Speaker 4: about the draft and.

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Speaker 5: Starts in October. Let's not do that.

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Speaker 3: If you are not, if you don't have these lines

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Speaker 3: set up, that's that's what you know, like the Jets

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Speaker 3: and there talking about the draft, you know, trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out what the right right, trying to figure out

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Speaker 3: where you're gonna be, so you must, you must improve

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Speaker 3: in these areas. Until the Cowboys were the offensive defensive line,

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Speaker 3: these are to me, these are major areas that we've

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Speaker 3: got to look at. Yeah, you want to get these

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Speaker 3: other dudes signed. But if you can't protect your quarterback

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Speaker 3: establish the run, you can't stop the run.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 6: And you lost some key and you lost some key

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Speaker 6: guys this year. Some guys they packed up and went

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Speaker 6: with the with with the other guy out to the

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Speaker 6: other team. But how do you feel those voids? Man,

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Speaker 6: It's it's gonna be a lot of that field. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of depth that left.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and look, we're gonna we're gonna be here to

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Speaker 3: talk about it all season training camp and started here,

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Speaker 3: keep it locked in.

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Speaker 4: On all the cowboy pots.

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Speaker 5: Tuesday, that's the day.

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Speaker 3: And I decided, well, all right, we got two minutes here.

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Speaker 3: Did you want to really get into trade land.

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Speaker 5: No, let's do that.

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Speaker 8: On give you.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you.

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Speaker 4: That's what I said. Can we from what I heard,

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Speaker 4: can we give them a little more time? Can give

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Speaker 4: a little more time?

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Speaker 5: Rush?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got were good, were good. You know the

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Speaker 4: golf clubs.

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Speaker 3: Right Maharrison Bury, Church of New he strugs for jazz, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Josh, you helped put this together. Players Lounge will catch

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Speaker 4: you next week right here, Dallas.

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