WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: 08-23-24 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:05.800 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:14.960 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.640 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:26.360 Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.000 Guess who's back in the house. It's the Players Lounge 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.400 and you are now rocking with the best. I'm Hecmharrison 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.960 alongside former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Churches in the building 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.519 and man, listen, tonight today we are going to dedicate 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:48.480 this show to Rosie Rosie. This is the Rosie Show 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.880 because my man knew Scrugs lost his dog, Rosie row 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.040 Row and so he's not in the building. He's not 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.960 in the building today with us because uh, yes, dog 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.720 passed away. And I know it's a tough thing, man, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.160 So yeah, I want to make sure that I send 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.600 my condolencens out to him and the Scrugs family. And 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.800 dealing with the loss of a pet, I don't you know. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.360 I couldn't. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.440 I only lost one pet my lifetime, when I was 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:13.400 my childhood dog. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:15.679 What's the childhood doll's name? 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.600 It was Flash, not Flash flash Man, And so Flash 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.839 was gone sorry, no, no, no, not flash Cleo clear, I'm sorry, Clil, Clil. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.480 She lasted about I want to say. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.360 Thirteen years, thirteen thirteen years, and she was she was 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.559 the heck of a dog, smartest heck. Got a family 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.039 dog now, Coco. She's on her way up there now, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.240 twelve years now. I was like, man, you know what, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.759 that's just what I'm telling you. I know how tough 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.280 that is. Growing up, I didn't have any pets. My 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.800 mom just she wasn't a pet person. She is, but 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.240 she wasn't with the pets at all. So you know, 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.800 I was the only one. But then it wasn't until 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.320 I was an adult. And you know, my wife she 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.400 had a dog, and so when we got married, we 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.840 had to get a dog. So I raised my dog Kato. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.640 You made me say Coco Kato, and uh man, he 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.640 passed away and Barry, I didn't want another dog. I 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.080 didn't want another dog. I did not want another dog. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.440 But then we saved the dog went down to the 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.920 pet you know, the shelter found someone that last chance 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.880 dog and we adopted the dog. Man we got papers 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.200 on it. I don't know how old she is, she 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.200 might years, I know, but we love her to death, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.440 and I couldn't even I couldn't even imagine. I couldn't 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.519 even imagine being here so newly. Listen, man, I want 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.440 I want to make sure I send my condolcens out 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.200 to you and your family. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.160 I know that's a tough thing. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.800 And look, we gotta do the players lounge, man, So 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.320 we're gonna get into it. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.160 What have we been talking about this whole time before 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.079 we do that? What we gotta do? You know, you 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:47.480 know how bad? 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.560 But see, listen, listen, hold on, hold on, no, but 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.680 see I felt like because I was, you know, Rosie, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:52.680 and we was doing all that. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.440 You know what I'm saying. I just want to thank you. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.200 I just you know what I'm saying, Man, accountable, I 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.959 heard trying to do. I'm just trying to help my 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:05.079 very arry. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.280 Yes, you know what I do when I'm on these shows, man, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.200 Always make sure I check in. I want to check 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.360 in with your brother. How are you today? Thank you 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:11.880 for asking? 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.679 And I'm doing amazing as always, man, super bluffs. You 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.480 know life is good, family, you know friends. Everybody is 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.239 healthy for the most part, so you know life is good. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.040 Man. How about yourself? 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.320 Man, I'm doing good, man, yesterday, my son had his 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:29.280 first scrimmage, young young heck man, and I'm telling you 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.080 it's uh, my nerves, well my nerves. I'm so was 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:34.800 so happy when the game was over. But he did good. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.080 An inner squad or like they went against Louisville. They 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.960 went against louis came all the way out here from Saxony. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.800 My son plays wide receiver for the Saxony Mustangs. Here 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.280 in town in Texas, Texas is a football thing here. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.800 But we went to Louisville. He plays first schedule scrimmage 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.880 and it was awesome. Man, he did good. Finch with 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.560 three three catches, I think forty yards, you know, just 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.640 some men solid. So getting our feet wet man ready 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.800 for the season. So mental, my mentals are cooking. My brother, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.839 I'm ready, love, ready to go. Now let's get let's 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:04.520 get into it. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:05.840 So listen. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.520 Linval Joseph, We've been talking about lin Val Joseph for 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.360 a while now, and we said that Mike Zimmer was 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.360 going to need his tools, was the way we put it. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.560 You know, Carbinger needs his tools. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.760 And there was some some names being thrown around, and 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.400 lin Val Joseph obviously his name came up because he 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.320 was a free agent. Number one, but number two. Uh 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:31.640 he played for Mike Zimber Zimmer for a number of years. Yeah, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:36.080 Minnesota and so Linval Joseph now going into its fifteenth year. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.080 Kudos of that. That's a big especially at that position. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.760 That's a big time. Fifteen years, that's a lot in 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.279 the league. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.800 So what do you what was your I mean, obviously 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.320 didn't surprise you, but when you saw the signing, what 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:47.760 did you think? 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.159 Yeah, because you know, starting off, we knew, you know from. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.080 The comments that Jerry made that you know, they weren't done, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.200 you know, trying to make this roster better, make it 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.320 more complete heading into the season. And we all understand 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.440 that's what NFL teams do heading into the You won 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.360 your roster as strong as possible, with as much depth 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.280 as possible, because, like new he says, this is a 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:07.040 long season. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.840 Seventeen gats a long season. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.320 So I understand they were gonna go out there and 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.160 grab somebody that they felt one knew the system, that 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.039 Zimmer you know, likes the place for his defense and 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.160 could also be that veteran presence. You know, I didn't 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.440 think they were gonna go after a guy in year fifteen. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.080 I'm gonna have to be honest. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:25.400 With you on that. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.840 Look, if this was twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen lin Val Joseph, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:31.679 I'd be a static. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:32.720 I'd be jumping on them. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.000 I was still in the league, he was doing that, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.320 and I'd be on the table jumping up and down, like, man, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.120 this is it. This is that guy. Because when you 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.640 look at it back then, he was that gap stopper. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.200 He was that guy that let those linebackers. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.640 Kendricks had some of his best years, you know, behind 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.440 lind Val Joseph because he didn't get touched. He was 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.120 able to go sideline the sideline with those Minnesota Vikings 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.839 when linv Vald Joseph was there. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.159 But man, I was eight years ago, eight seasons ago. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:00.920 That's a while ago. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:01.240 You know. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:02.760 We look at you know, liv vald Joseph. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.839 Now past two seasons, he's played fifteen games total, you know, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.039 out of thirty four he played fifteen games. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.960 Total these past two seasons. So when I look at it, 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.840 I'm like, man, what what am. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.720 I really going to expect out of the veterans vet 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.800 because that's what he is at this point, fifteen years 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.640 in the game. On that defensive line. You're the veterans 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.120 of vet right. There usually only quarterbacks get that that 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.359 long in the game. So what do I want to 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.440 expect from him going into this season. I'm and I 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.480 think about it, I'm like, he could be that gap 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.400 stopper still because you know, he's a big man. It 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.640 ain't like he slimmed up or anything like that. He's 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.839 a big man. I don't expect him to, you know, 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.760 get much penetration when it comes to getting after the passer. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.720 But at the very least, you know he can keep 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.240 those offensive linemen off of Kendricks, off of Clark, off 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.160 of over shown he could that he can do that 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:56.240 still in my opinion, But you know, how many games 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:56.920 is he going to play? 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.560 You know, how long is he going to be able 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:58.919 to do that? 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.640 This is already a defense that's depending on Kendricks to 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:03.279 remain healthy. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.279 He's in year eleven. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.640 The Marcus Lawrence, they're depending on him to produce. He's 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.520 in year eleven, and now you're depending on you know, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.320 I'm not going to say put it all on his shoulders, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.720 but you want him to produce as well at year fifteen, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.600 and it's you know, that's a tall task for somebody 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.400 playing that defensive line. So I guess if the rotation 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.520 is right, you can get the most out of them, 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.760 you know, for a stretch of games. But you know, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.560 I just to me, just like I said, this was 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.080 twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, I'd be a static right now. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.920 I see it as a depth piece and you know, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.360 hopefully hope him maybe we can squeeze you know, twelve 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.600 games out of him this year, and that's just my hope. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.080 But that's depending a lot on a veteran presence of 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:44.640 a defense. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.160 Look, I mean everything that you brought, I think the 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.360 one thing that stuck out to me what you just 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:54.640 said was Kendricks having his best years with so like 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.080 I think, man, with your years in the NFL, you 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.640 know for sure, Barry, that a a one technique can 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:08.360 make a linebacker look outstand, outstand and make it look outstand. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.400 And when you have a guy of lin. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.040 Voss Joseph's caliber, and what what exactly is Mike Zimmer 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.560 going to ask of him? I mean, if you think 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.320 of him in his first year in twenty ten, when 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.960 he played for the New York Giants, that's when I 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.120 was Linvald Joseph because he won a Super Bowl. People 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.840 forget about that about part of that Super Bowl team, 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.080 and he was a part of a defense that was 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.840 you know in those years with the Giants, man, they 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.640 shut down the run and a lot of the things 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.280 that you want to do. You saw m mass he 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.440 went those Viking years again, a presence in the middle. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:41.679 I know that right now. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.640 The Dallas Cowboys, when you talk about what their main 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.880 objective is coming into twenty twenty four, it has to 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.240 be stopping the run. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.719 That's gotta be it. You got the. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.720 Secondary, you got this look, you got all the other pieces. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.439 You got all the other pieces that you know you can. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.120 You can get stops in the run. You can definitely 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.600 create turnovers with those dbs. You trust those guys. You 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.920 have some all pro guys at both sides of corners. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.800 On your corners, your safeties are sure fi These guys 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.280 can tackle. But your linebackers last year showed you that 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.439 if you did, we're not able to hold that ground. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.520 Your linebackers could not work. And it didn't matter. I mean, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.520 you can get on these young guys and say, man, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.360 they didn't look too good. You could talk about an 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:25.480 undersized linebacker and bel his specialty is his speed. When 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.319 he can't use his speed, he is less than average. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.320 He is left less than average. And so the bigger 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:38.000 thing also calls to MASI okay, because now you understand, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.960 and I think it's not a sound the alarm. It's 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.920 just that this guy that we are, we drafted high 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.360 and we expected for him to hit the ground run 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.920 and hasn't gotten there yet. And it's not that we 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.240 can give him a full sample side. We can't give 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.000 him all of it yet, we're still having to unveil 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.880 it to it and look, bring this guy along and 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.360 a guy like Linval Joseph to me, is going to 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.600 be great for the development of Mazzie Smith. I mean, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 you think about your years and I think you came 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.040 in Gerald Sena. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.760 Was that guy, was a guy that was ahead of you. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.680 Talk about that as as being even that piece you know, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.920 you ask what he has in the tank, but also 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.040 being a presence in the locker room for. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.640 A young guy like Mazzie Smith. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.800 Now, if that's what we're we're basically saying, like that's 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.440 what lim voh I'm assuming will come that We're all 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.600 we're all assuming right here. But if that's his you know, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.679 kind of role here is to be that veteran presidence 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.600 not only in the locker room, but to teach these 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.360 young guys on the field what Mike Zimmer wants out 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.200 of his defense. Then I think it's an unbelievable signing because, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.520 like you said, he he was with Zimmer through those 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.760 Minnesota years. He understands what he wants that one tech 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.160 three tech to play and how to play it, so 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.880 he can definitely teach these young guys, mainly Mazzie Smith, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.120 the way to go about it. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.320 At the defensive tackle position. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.959 Now, the thing is, can he can he get out 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.840 of Masi what maybe the coaching staff hasn't been able 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.720 to so far in his two years here at with 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.400 the Dallas Cowboys. Can he show him the techniques to 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.400 bring out that potential because like you said, hey, we 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:11.400 we still. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.520 Haven't seen it. We still haven't seen it. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.000 And I'm not gonna put Mazi in the taco category 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.040 just yet because he's like the sample size has been 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.439 too small. But we need as many people possible, coaches, players, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.400 vets coming in there to try to get this guy 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.079 to tap into his potential to get to that next level, 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.680 because we all understand how important that position is when 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.320 you talk about stopping to run, and last year it 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.240 was a big eyesaw that middle of that defense. Now 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.520 you had Osa who played you know, in my opinion, 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.400 he played out standing, but he was more of a 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:44.200 let me get. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.800 After the pass rusher type defensive tack. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.120 And to me, when you talk about needing for this defense, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.120 you need a guy that's gonna sit and have concrete 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.079 blocks on his feet and nobody's gonna be able to 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.559 move him out the way, no matter if you've got 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.559 a guy trying to double team him from the left right, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:57.800 he's gonna stand his ground. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.240 You know, he may not get up the field get 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:00.160 all these sacks, but he's. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.559 Gonna stand his ground so that Kendricks and all those 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.120 other guys can do what they do best, and that's 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:04.600 come down here. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:05.400 He'll stop the run. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.760 If that's what lim Vaugh is here to do to 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.240 get the most out of Mizzi Smith, I'm all for. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.079 I just get nervous because I don't know. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.760 I don't know if Mozzi if he got that, if 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.160 he got that mentality to be able to go out 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.680 there and be that one technique that this defense needs. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.920 And then then you're gonna put more on the plate 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.200 of a Limbaugh Joseph who's in year fifteen. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.559 So it's it's a slippery slope. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.640 But if he can get Mazi to get that untapped 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.800 potential out of there then or out of himself, then 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:39.400 I mean. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.400 Then this defense then you're cooking with grease. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.439 And then also please remember, as you mentioned before, Jerry 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.640 said that, look, we're not done with calming other rosters. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.800 And you bring in Karl Lawson and Jordan Phillips, and 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.319 so Carl Lawson obviously a five technique guys gonna play 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.439 out on the outside, but Jordan Phillips is a guy 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.760 that you're gonna move down internally that can also be 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.800 that piece to have some tweener between one and a 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.160 three technique. But before we go to break, I want 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.440 to switch. I want to switch up here and talk 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.080 about the NFC East because a lot of people on 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.800 the outside of this building believe that there are teams, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.400 and you've been seeing it through these signings. There are 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.960 teams that are getting really good and right now in 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.560 the NFC's In one signing in particular, something that I 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.319 thought was really weird, Dan Quinn takes it upon himself 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.560 to trade some picks, but also since Johan Dotson he 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:37.480 receives picks. But since Jahan Dotson, a former first round, sixteenth. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.199 Pick in the first round wide receiver to. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.360 Philly within the division, within the division, that's rare. Wait 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.640 a second, So, Dan Quinn, do me a favor, don't 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:48.480 do us no favor? 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:49.880 What is that? 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.120 What is that? That was a weird That was a 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.360 weird trade. Now to me, that's super weird. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.680 I've only seen it happen maybe once or twice, where 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.920 a guy gets traded within the division, and it goes 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.640 to show you what that coaching staff thinks of Johan Dotson. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.960 Because if you're sitting here saying, all right, we're gonna 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.600 trade you for some pigs, knowing you gotta go against 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.600 this guy twice a year, you would think, oh, we're 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.760 gonna send him somewhere else, maybe still within the NFC, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.520 but not the NFC East. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.680 So basically twice, see him twice. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.240 So basically, what Dack what was saying is, you know, hey, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.160 we don't think much of you, and we don't think 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.200 going going to one of our division rivals will affect 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:25.480 us playing them twice a year. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.880 But to me that was that was a weird trade, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.680 but kind of a kind of a sneaky good one 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.320 for Philly. I think it's sneaky good. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.440 You know, talent talent wise, if you just do a 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.280 comparison on the rosters Philly, Philly that has gotten better. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.240 I think the signing of Saquon Barkley is the one 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.160 is the one I think that everyone points to then 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.920 they go, they got Squon, And that's what what Saquon 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.840 signing gonna do is gonna cut down on a lot 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.600 of Jalen Hurts running and that's the thing that ends up, 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.000 you know, wearing him down towards the end of season. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.440 So you're gonna start to get the best part of 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.680 Jalen also with that running game being as effective as 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.280 it can be. But John Dotson coming out of Penn 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.520 State back in twenty twenty two was a one of 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.440 those receivers you look, take the top off a guy 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.440 that could get you that yackyard and she could do 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.440 it all. But for some reason out in Washington with 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.240 Terry McLaurin, it never kind of started to materialize. And 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.760 I guess Washington figure like that we got enough weapons 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.480 already as it is now. Washington, on the other hand, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.280 that's another team that if you look at their roster 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.560 and it looks young quarterback that you look you cannot 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.440 go out here and put too much on a young 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.040 especially team with a young quarterback. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.560 But we've seen in. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:42.320 Houston what the infusion of a young quarterback can do 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.640 for your squad. And if you're sitting here and you're 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.360 the Dallas Cowboys and you're seeing like everybody except for 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.760 the Giants right now, the Giants right now, it's probably 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.760 like that's the one team in the nfc S that 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.160 you're like, are you guys like literally trying to be 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.960 bad a win? But there has not been a repeat 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.400 NFC East Divisional champ since two thousand and four. This 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.520 is twenty years since this has happened. So that is 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.120 wise wise and so if I mean, you got twenty 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.000 years worth of history here, and I guess my, my, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.040 my biggest question to you is, after you think about 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.400 these trades and think about how teams are getting better 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.280 in the NFCS, what are the chances that this twenty 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.360 year trend is broken with the Cowboys winning it again? 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:32.960 Whoo? I mean, it's gonna be tight. I'm not gonna lie. 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.040 I see you know, early early opinions on this, and 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.760 you know, we all got to see the season play out, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.520 but early opinions. Man, it's definitely gonna be a three 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.400 three team race. And I don't think anybody is just 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.120 gonna you know, the past couple of years has always 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.880 been either Philly or Dallas kind of pulling away one 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:47.760 of the others gonna win. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:49.360 Washington. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.280 I think it's gonna be a sneaky team this year 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.640 because we you know, they got a rookie quarterback, but 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.880 the one Achilles heeled you know, to a lot of defenses, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.080 and it's you know, Cowboys as well has been in 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.920 that quarterback that can escape, that quarterback that can run 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.879 by time with his feet, you know, look downfield to 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.959 still make those big plays. And that's what they have 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.080 in Jade Daniels, in my opinion, is a guy that 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.439 can use his legs, but he can also throw the 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.119 ball extremely well. So the guys Gry Terry McLaurin on 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.760 the outside, they got a lot of weapons. And with 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.600 Dan Quinn, you know, that defensive side of the football 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.800 is gonna be ready. You know, they gonna come to 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.359 play you've seen. But when he came in here and 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.480 infused that talent on this defensive side of the ball, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.280 what they were able to do with the Cowboys, it 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.040 turned everything around. So you understand what's gonna happen on 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.240 that defensive side of the football for the for the Commanders, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.399 they're gonna have pressure on the quarterback. You already know 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.800 that they're gonna be opportunistic in the secondary. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.040 So to me, Washington's gonna be a little sneaky team. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.240 But at the end of the day, I think it's 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.120 really gonna come down to Philly in Dallas. I mean, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.720 we all understand that the Dallas Cowboys have the best 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.040 quarterback in the division. And at the end of the day, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.200 when you have that best quarterback in the division, you're 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:59.479 always gonna have a leg up. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.120 All right. Dak Prescott to me, is the best quarterback 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.159 in this division. So I would give it about a. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.360 Sixty percent chance that the Cowboys break that that NFC 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:09.760 East curse. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.000