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Speaker 1: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Guess who's back in the house. It's the Players Lounge

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Speaker 2: and you are now rocking with the best. I'm Hecmharrison

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Speaker 2: alongside former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Churches in the building

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Speaker 2: and man, listen, tonight today we are going to dedicate

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Speaker 2: this show to Rosie Rosie. This is the Rosie Show

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Speaker 2: because my man knew Scrugs lost his dog, Rosie row

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Speaker 2: Row and so he's not in the building. He's not

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Speaker 2: in the building today with us because uh, yes, dog

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Speaker 2: passed away. And I know it's a tough thing, man,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to make sure that I send

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Speaker 2: my condolencens out to him and the Scrugs family. And

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Speaker 2: dealing with the loss of a pet, I don't you know.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: I only lost one pet my lifetime, when I was

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Speaker 4: my childhood dog.

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Speaker 3: What's the childhood doll's name?

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Speaker 4: It was Flash, not Flash flash Man, And so Flash

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Speaker 4: was gone sorry, no, no, no, not flash Cleo clear, I'm sorry, Clil, Clil.

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Speaker 3: She lasted about I want to say.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen years, thirteen thirteen years, and she was she was

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Speaker 4: the heck of a dog, smartest heck. Got a family

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Speaker 4: dog now, Coco. She's on her way up there now,

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Speaker 4: twelve years now. I was like, man, you know what,

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Speaker 4: that's just what I'm telling you. I know how tough

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Speaker 4: that is. Growing up, I didn't have any pets. My

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Speaker 4: mom just she wasn't a pet person. She is, but

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Speaker 4: she wasn't with the pets at all. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I was the only one. But then it wasn't until

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Speaker 4: I was an adult. And you know, my wife she

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Speaker 4: had a dog, and so when we got married, we

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Speaker 4: had to get a dog. So I raised my dog Kato.

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Speaker 4: You made me say Coco Kato, and uh man, he

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Speaker 4: passed away and Barry, I didn't want another dog. I

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Speaker 4: didn't want another dog. I did not want another dog.

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Speaker 2: But then we saved the dog went down to the

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Speaker 2: pet you know, the shelter found someone that last chance

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Speaker 2: dog and we adopted the dog. Man we got papers

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Speaker 2: on it. I don't know how old she is, she

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Speaker 2: might years, I know, but we love her to death,

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't even I couldn't even imagine. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: even imagine being here so newly. Listen, man, I want

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure I send my condolcens out

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Speaker 2: to you and your family.

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Speaker 3: I know that's a tough thing.

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Speaker 2: And look, we gotta do the players lounge, man, So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 3: What have we been talking about this whole time before

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Speaker 3: we do that? What we gotta do? You know, you

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Speaker 3: know how bad?

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Speaker 2: But see, listen, listen, hold on, hold on, no, but

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Speaker 2: see I felt like because I was, you know, Rosie,

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Speaker 2: and we was doing all that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just want to thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just you know what I'm saying, Man, accountable, I

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Speaker 3: heard trying to do. I'm just trying to help my

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Speaker 3: very arry.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I do when I'm on these shows, man,

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Speaker 2: Always make sure I check in. I want to check

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Speaker 2: in with your brother. How are you today? Thank you

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Speaker 2: for asking?

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Speaker 4: And I'm doing amazing as always, man, super bluffs. You

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Speaker 4: know life is good, family, you know friends. Everybody is

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Speaker 4: healthy for the most part, so you know life is good.

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Speaker 3: Man. How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm doing good, man, yesterday, my son had his

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Speaker 2: first scrimmage, young young heck man, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: it's uh, my nerves, well my nerves. I'm so was

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Speaker 2: so happy when the game was over. But he did good.

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Speaker 2: An inner squad or like they went against Louisville. They

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Speaker 2: My son plays wide receiver for the Saxony Mustangs. Here

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Speaker 2: But we went to Louisville. He plays first schedule scrimmage

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Speaker 2: and it was awesome. Man, he did good. Finch with

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Speaker 2: for the season. So mental, my mentals are cooking. My brother,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, love, ready to go. Now let's get let's

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Speaker 3: So listen.

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Speaker 2: Linval Joseph, We've been talking about lin Val Joseph for

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Speaker 2: And there was some some names being thrown around, and

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Speaker 2: he played for Mike Zimber Zimmer for a number of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and so Linval Joseph now going into its fifteenth year.

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Speaker 4: Kudos of that. That's a big especially at that position.

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Speaker 4: That's a big time. Fifteen years, that's a lot in

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Speaker 2: So what do you what was your I mean, obviously

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, starting off, we knew, you know from.

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Speaker 4: The comments that Jerry made that you know, they weren't done,

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Speaker 4: you know, trying to make this roster better, make it

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Speaker 4: more complete heading into the season. And we all understand

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Speaker 4: that's what NFL teams do heading into the You won

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Speaker 4: your roster as strong as possible, with as much depth

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Speaker 4: as possible, because, like new he says, this is a

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Speaker 3: Seventeen gats a long season.

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Speaker 4: So I understand they were gonna go out there and

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Speaker 4: Zimmer you know, likes the place for his defense and

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Speaker 4: could also be that veteran presence. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 4: think they were gonna go after a guy in year fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Look, if this was twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen lin Val Joseph,

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Speaker 4: I'd be a static.

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Speaker 4: I was still in the league, he was doing that,

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Speaker 4: this is it. This is that guy. Because when you

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Speaker 4: look at it back then, he was that gap stopper.

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Speaker 3: He was that guy that let those linebackers.

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Speaker 4: Kendricks had some of his best years, you know, behind

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Speaker 3: But man, I was eight years ago, eight seasons ago.

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Speaker 4: Now past two seasons, he's played fifteen games total, you know,

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Speaker 4: I really going to expect out of the veterans vet

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Speaker 4: ain't like he slimmed up or anything like that. He's

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Speaker 4: But at the very least, you know he can keep

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Speaker 4: of over shown he could that he can do that

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Speaker 3: You know, how long is he going to be able

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Speaker 4: This is already a defense that's depending on Kendricks to

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Speaker 3: He's in year eleven.

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Speaker 4: The Marcus Lawrence, they're depending on him to produce. He's

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Speaker 4: and it's you know, that's a tall task for somebody

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Speaker 4: I see it as a depth piece and you know,

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Speaker 4: hopefully hope him maybe we can squeeze you know, twelve

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Speaker 4: But that's depending a lot on a veteran presence of

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean everything that you brought, I think the

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Speaker 2: know for sure, Barry, that a a one technique can

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Speaker 3: And when you have a guy of lin.

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Speaker 2: Voss Joseph's caliber, and what what exactly is Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 2: was Linvald Joseph because he won a Super Bowl. People

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Speaker 2: and he was a part of a defense that was

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Speaker 2: you know in those years with the Giants, man, they

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Speaker 2: shut down the run and a lot of the things

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Speaker 2: that you want to do. You saw m mass he

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Speaker 3: I know that right now.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys, when you talk about what their main

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Speaker 2: objective is coming into twenty twenty four, it has to

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Speaker 3: That's gotta be it. You got the.

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Speaker 2: Secondary, you got this look, you got all the other pieces.

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Speaker 2: You got all the other pieces that you know you can.

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Speaker 2: You can get stops in the run. You can definitely

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Speaker 2: create turnovers with those dbs. You trust those guys. You

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Speaker 2: have some all pro guys at both sides of corners.

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Speaker 2: On your corners, your safeties are sure fi These guys

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Speaker 2: can tackle. But your linebackers last year showed you that

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Speaker 2: if you did, we're not able to hold that ground.

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Speaker 2: Your linebackers could not work. And it didn't matter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he can't use his speed, he is less than average.

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Speaker 2: He is left less than average. And so the bigger

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Speaker 2: thing also calls to MASI okay, because now you understand,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's not a sound the alarm. It's

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Speaker 2: just that this guy that we are, we drafted high

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Speaker 2: and we expected for him to hit the ground run

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Speaker 3: Pick in the first round wide receiver to.

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Speaker 4: do us no favor?

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 2: What is that? That was a weird That was a

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Speaker 4: I've only seen it happen maybe once or twice, where

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Speaker 4: Because if you're sitting here saying, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: So basically twice, see him twice.

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Speaker 4: So basically, what Dack what was saying is, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: But to me that was that was a weird trade,

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Speaker 2: You know, talent talent wise, if you just do a

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Speaker 2: I guess Washington figure like that we got enough weapons

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Speaker 3: But we've seen in.

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Speaker 3: Whoo? I mean, it's gonna be tight. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I see you know, early early opinions on this, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a sneaky team this year

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Speaker 3: So to me, Washington's gonna be a little sneaky team.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think it's

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Speaker 4: we all understand that the Dallas Cowboys have the best

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Speaker 4: always gonna have a leg up.

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Speaker 3: All right. Dak Prescott to me, is the best quarterback

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Speaker 4: Sixty percent chance that the Cowboys break that that NFC

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Speaker 3: I give I give it a sixty percent chance, And

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Speaker 4: You got the best back and got the best defensive

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Speaker 4: I say that, I say sixty right now as of

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Speaker 2: That's what I was just about to say, Dad Quinn

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Speaker 3: That show made life easy. Quit.

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Speaker 2: But man, we got to get into this preseason game

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hey.

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Speaker 2: how that affects him. But we're going to get a

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Speaker 2: Lewis Perez east Stick. Yeah he's sticking still around, and

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Speaker 2: look we still get an opportunity to see more of

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Speaker 2: Probably this Trey Lancer probably played the entire games, made

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Speaker 2: second game, so I got a lot, a lot better

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Speaker 2: confidence there for what what should be your number three

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Speaker 2: quarterback on this roster. But for a lot of guys,

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Speaker 2: and you've been in this position before plenty of years

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Speaker 2: at this position. This is this has been this, This

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Speaker 2: Saturday's game is very important for a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: go ahead, and it's one of those things like you

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Speaker 2: you are now getting an opportunity to make a case

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Speaker 2: for yourself for being able to make this fifty three

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Speaker 2: band roster. And so man, just talk to that and

498
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Speaker 2: what that pressure is like playing in that.

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Speaker 4: This this game is huge when you talk about guys

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Speaker 4: towards the bottom half of the roster, because that's all

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Speaker 4: you know, every team in the National Football League is

502
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Speaker 4: trying to do. Spoke on it a little bit earlier,

503
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Speaker 4: but they're trying to make sure that a roster as

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Speaker 4: strong as possible going into the regular season. So guys

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Speaker 4: towards the bottom of the depth chart, and I've been there,

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Speaker 4: you know, my first probably two years. You know, I

507
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Speaker 4: was at the bottom of the depth chart trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out how ways to make this team. And this

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Speaker 4: game right here is stressful and it's one of the hardest,

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Speaker 4: if not the hardest game. I probably say I've played

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League. When's when you talk about

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Speaker 4: condition wise, because you're gonna be on every single special team, offense, defense,

513
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Speaker 4: whatever you played, you're gonna get all those reps, especially

514
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Speaker 4: if you're at the bottom and the roster trying to

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Speaker 4: make this team or at least trying to put good

516
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Speaker 4: tape out there for other teams to pick you up

517
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Speaker 4: if you do end up getting released here. But you're

518
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Speaker 4: on every single special teams I'm talking about, you're covering punts, well,

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Speaker 4: straight from covering punts to playing safety or whatever position

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Speaker 4: you play on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: You know, then you're going.

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Speaker 4: On punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, like and you're getting

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Speaker 4: about you know sixty, you know, so whatever snaps in

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Speaker 4: that game on the defensive ward office side of the football.

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Speaker 3: So to me, this is one of the hardest games.

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Speaker 4: And I remember being McCrae, you know, after our rookie

527
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Speaker 4: season and we had to do this last game. I

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Speaker 4: think we played against Miami and at the time, they

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Speaker 4: had a aging Ricky Williams was in there, and we

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Speaker 4: was like, we ain't gonna have to go against Ricky, Like,

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Speaker 4: ain't we aint gonna have to play against it. Man,

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Speaker 4: lo and behold you know, I guess he was trying

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Speaker 4: to make the ropters.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: So we go out there where you know, everybody's hyping everybody. Yeah,

536
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Speaker 4: we got to do this. We're gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: Here comes Ricky Williams out the bet.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hold on, man, wain't a second against Ricky.

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Speaker 3: Man, And let me tell you. I'm playing in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the field.

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Speaker 4: Ricky gets a draw, breaks through the D line, breaks

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Speaker 4: through the second level. Man, it's me and Ricky one

543
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Speaker 4: on one, and I'm like, man, here we go. Because

544
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Speaker 4: I growing up, that's who I was watching Texas. But

545
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Speaker 4: he was holding down man. That man hit me with

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Speaker 4: the illus one two step and got up out of there. No,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about left me reaching. I'm real, I'm grabbing

548
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Speaker 4: out there. I'm grabbing turf, you know, those little black

549
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Speaker 4: beads that are in the turf flying up in my face.

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Speaker 4: Ricky skated off, somebody else ended up tackling him up

551
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Speaker 4: one of our corners, and I'm sitting there like, that's it, man,

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Speaker 4: that's I'm thinking of myself.

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Speaker 3: Man, I didn't do enohing this preseason.

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Speaker 4: They have to be locked and then I made a

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Speaker 4: you know, a missed the tackle and it made a

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Speaker 4: big play.

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Speaker 3: What's gonna happen, man, I'm thinking it's over with.

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Speaker 4: But you know, our special teams coach at the time,

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Speaker 4: Deacon Millis, you know, he showed love. He was like, nah,

560
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Speaker 4: this guy got something, so we're gonna keep him on

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Speaker 4: the roster. And that's why. And it brings me to

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Speaker 4: my point. When you and these young guys and they're

563
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Speaker 4: going out there, everybody thinks you gotta be great on

564
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Speaker 4: either offense or defense. I gotta make an interception, I

565
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Speaker 4: gotta you know, get a sack. I gotta make ten tackles.

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Speaker 3: And that's good.

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Speaker 4: That's all well and dandy, But where you want to

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Speaker 4: make your hay at it, especially if you're on the

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Speaker 4: bottom of that roster, is you got to make a

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Speaker 4: play on special teams. You gotta show consistency on special teams,

571
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Speaker 4: whether you're gonna you know, protecting the punter, hunt, return, blocking,

572
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Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. That's where you want to

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Speaker 4: make your hay at. You know, defense is great, offense

574
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Speaker 4: is great, but nine times out of ten, if you're

575
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Speaker 4: on the bottom of the roster, you ain't gonna see

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Speaker 4: the offense or defense no time soon. So special teams

577
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Speaker 4: in this last game for those guys, you've got to

578
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Speaker 4: go out there and make sure you show Fossil coach

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Speaker 4: Jim John Fossil that you belong on this field with

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Speaker 4: these guys and you deserve a spot either on a

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Speaker 4: fifty three or whatever. The dress how many players they

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Speaker 4: dress nowadays, you got to make sure you go out

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Speaker 4: there and show that coach that you can play.

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Speaker 3: Offensive. Defense is great, but special teams, you gotta make

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Speaker 3: it happen. There.

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Speaker 2: Man who knew that Ricky Williams almost made you a

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Speaker 2: financial advisorburgh, come see me.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about your forward game. How can we help

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Speaker 4: you to I ain't the same Barry Church I known.

590
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Speaker 4: Dude hit me because he had that mean like triple

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Speaker 4: T man the advisor. I'm like this, dude, one two

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Speaker 4: step was gone. I said, Oh, that's a rap for me.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: So you know, obviously watching all these preseason games, knowing

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Speaker 2: what's going on in camp for you, who would be

596
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Speaker 2: your dark horse player to make this roster?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: A guy that kind of reminds you of yourself the

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Speaker 2: matter offense or defense. But the guy that you say look,

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Speaker 2: this guy has an opportunity to make the squad. So

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Speaker 2: I would have to say, and I don't know if

602
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Speaker 2: he's you know, that far at the bottom of the house,

603
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Speaker 2: he may be a lock already. But you know what,

604
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Speaker 2: I would love to see a little bit more of

605
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Speaker 2: him out there. But Brooks, Jaylen brook to the receiver.

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Speaker 4: To me, you know, each year he's been here, he's

607
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Speaker 4: made strides and when you talk about getting your opportunity

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Speaker 4: on the football field.

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Speaker 3: He's done a great job offensively.

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Speaker 4: We've seen him in that first game when Cooper Rush

611
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Speaker 4: was out there, I believe it was against the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: He was the one that caught that deep ball from

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Speaker 4: Cooper Rush early in the game. He makes those plays

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Speaker 4: on a consistent basis, and he does, you know, great

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Speaker 4: in training camp. You know, he just hasn't had that

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Speaker 4: that he's had that chance during a regular season to

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Speaker 4: go show what he can do. But to me, I

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Speaker 4: understand you can do it on the offensive side of

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Speaker 4: the football. We understand you can receiver, you can make plays.

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Speaker 4: I just love to see him be able to do

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Speaker 4: that same thing and make an impact special teams wise,

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Speaker 4: whether it's being a gunner getting down there like I said,

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Speaker 4: or covering kickoffs, like I said, getting down there, because

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Speaker 4: that'll get you dressed during the regular season. That'll get

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Speaker 4: you out there on the football field running out of

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Speaker 4: the tunnel.

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Speaker 3: White's going crazy, you buckling them up. That'll get you.

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Speaker 4: That opportunity is if you go out there and you're

629
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Speaker 4: able to do it on special teams. So, like I said,

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Speaker 4: receiver wise, I understand he's a good receiver. He'll probably

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Speaker 4: end up being the you know, maybe fifth or sixth

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Speaker 4: option out there.

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Speaker 3: But if you want to go out there and get

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Speaker 3: dressed on a regular.

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Speaker 4: Basis, I want to see you do some of that

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Speaker 4: on the on the special teams case.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sitting here, I want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at I mean, there is a ton of

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Speaker 2: depth at the cornerback position, and obviously a ton of

640
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Speaker 2: ton of depth, and you know, and you know how

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Speaker 2: good you are on both sides, uh, Treyvon Diggs a

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Speaker 2: lot doron Bland.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jeorge Lewis Lock.

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Speaker 2: You know you have guys in that secondary case Carson

645
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Speaker 2: who's made his cases, he's been playing well. But a

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Speaker 2: guy by the name of Keemon Hall he did his

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Speaker 2: day last look look go me go mean Green, I'm

648
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Speaker 2: going home world this one for sure. But Keemon Hall,

649
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Speaker 2: to me, has made a case for himself. And look,

650
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Speaker 2: they're guys like Eric Scott. There are other players on

651
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Speaker 2: the scene that you know obviously are coming over to

652
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Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer from another regime. But still I think you

653
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Speaker 2: know they're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's Rock's in.

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Speaker 2: I see Rocks in the month, so I had to

656
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Speaker 2: give a shout out. But but keem On Hall is

657
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Speaker 2: a player that I think man has made a case

658
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Speaker 2: for himself. Now as you stated, as you stated, it's

659
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Speaker 2: gonna come down to special teams.

660
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Speaker 3: What can you do? What can you do?

661
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Speaker 2: And I think those are the Those are guys like

662
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Speaker 2: that that even if you know, I would be watching

663
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Speaker 2: him as a player to see if another team picks

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Speaker 2: him up. I mean, because he's been in the league

665
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Speaker 2: for quite some time. It's not like he's one of

666
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Speaker 2: these young guys first year in the league. But you

667
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: see that play making ability from him man, and it

668
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: would be it would be good to see a guy

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Speaker 2: like that make make the team. But also I got it,

670
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Speaker 2: since you can pick me in. None of the guys

671
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Speaker 2: that I thought you were gonna pick number number fifty seven,

672
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Speaker 2: Buddy Johnson, Buddy Johnson, and I'm torn, and I'm torn

673
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Speaker 2: between Buddy Johnson and Nick Vigil.

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Speaker 3: Those you're saying Willie Harvey is a lot, I think

675
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Speaker 3: will he's a lot. Yeah, I do too, I think

676
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Speaker 3: he's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he didn't have as good as

678
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Speaker 2: showing that first time around, but I just think that

679
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: what you've been hearing from him out of camp. So

680
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: if he doesn't, I mean, look, it's it's really a

681
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: toss up though there. And you never know when he

682
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 2: especially when they're making spots for other guys which house

683
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: they're still, So he may be one of those guys

684
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: like c J.

685
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Speaker 3: Goodwin. You know, you know CJ. Get cut. Yeah, they're

686
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: gonna bring you so well repaired. We prepare ourselves for

687
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Speaker 3: that right now. But those are the guys.

688
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: And and I'm really interested, also, Barri, to see some

689
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: of these other positions. What are they thinking in some

690
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: of these other positions like running back We talked about

691
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: this a couple of days ago, but how many do

692
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: they playing on keeping in the running back room? How

693
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 2: many wide receivers do they keep? I do think your

694
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: guy Jalen Brooks is a lot you think I think

695
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: I think he's locked in and I just think he's

696
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: he's big, He's made a cast for himself. He's definitely

697
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: improved on last season, and I think you need another

698
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: presence and he's a young guy that's that's showing you

699
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Speaker 2: that he has something.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you on that one for sure. So I'm

701
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: definitely good on the Jalen Brooks one one position. And

702
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Speaker 4: I want to get you thoughts on this. And I'm

703
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: not sure if either of these guys you know, will

704
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Speaker 4: play or have a lot of playing time, but we've

705
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Speaker 4: talked about it at length in this offseason. Which is

706
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Speaker 4: the center position, brock Hoffman and bib which has been

707
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: a battle back and forth. You've seen the coaches they're

708
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: starting to grow with Bebe and as far as him,

709
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: you know, understanding that center position because he played guard

710
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Speaker 4: in college, but understanding as a unit how to play there.

711
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Speaker 4: But then you also got I wouldn't call him a veteran,

712
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: but you got Hoffman in there, who's had some experience

713
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Speaker 4: at the center position as well. I would love to

714
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Speaker 4: see those two in this preseason game. I know you're

715
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Speaker 4: not gonna have, you know, Smith or Martin next to

716
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Speaker 4: you and the starting offensive line, but just to get

717
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Speaker 4: those guys more experienced and basically see, you know, whoever

718
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Speaker 4: plays better is gonna get that spot because these right now,

719
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Speaker 4: these guys are neck and neck, and usually it goes

720
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Speaker 4: to the guy with the higher draft capital, which would

721
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Speaker 4: be BB. But I don't know what are your what

722
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Speaker 4: are your thoughts on on on them playing in this last.

723
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Speaker 3: I said it.

724
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Speaker 2: I said it on Wednesday, man, I'll say it again.

725
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Speaker 2: I think that when you have two guys, you have

726
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Speaker 2: an incumbent and you have a rookie in the same category,

727
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Speaker 2: if the incumbent is in leaps and bounds better than

728
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Speaker 2: the rookie, then you're gonna go with the rookie. I

729
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: mean it seems to me like Hoffman, he has been

730
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Speaker 2: a feel good story and a guy that I think

731
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Speaker 2: you know has shown you that you have some added

732
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: depth there. He can be that depth piece for you.

733
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Speaker 2: But I think you cannot keep Cooper BB's nasty on

734
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Speaker 2: the sideline. You need that, you need that. And the

735
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: whole thing about your team the offseason on down has

736
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Speaker 2: been toughness. Everybody's questioning our toughness. Are we tough? As

737
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Speaker 2: a team, when you get another guy in there that

738
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Speaker 2: you say, oh he got a little bit of nasty

739
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Speaker 2: to him. That counts in December, you know it, you know.

740
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Speaker 2: And so at some point, as we said, as you

741
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: know that it's a long season, just knowing that you

742
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Speaker 2: have that extra piece there, I think it's gonna be

743
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Speaker 2: good for coach McCarthy going into the season. But when

744
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: we come back, we're going to talk about expectation. I

745
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: know that we haven't gotten to We're gonna wait until

746
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Speaker 2: next week a couple weeks to start talking about the

747
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Speaker 2: schedule and what we predict. But there are some players

748
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Speaker 2: that have a little bit of extra pressure on them

749
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Speaker 2: So we'll have a conversation. But so I was talking

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: about expectation. And look, I want to know from you

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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: because I think this off season, in this Cowboys camp has.

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Speaker 2: certain position groups and certain players. So you don't have

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Speaker 2: Give me, give me what your expectation is going to

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Speaker 3: You say, all right, so.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the you know what

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: you had said at first, I'm gonna mix it match

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Speaker 4: a little bit off the side, and I'm gonna go

821
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: to defensive side of the football. But when you talk

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Speaker 4: about a position group that I have high expectations for

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Speaker 4: and I would hope that they were able to fulfill

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Speaker 4: those expectations.

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Speaker 3: Would be the.

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Speaker 4: Tight end group, in my opinion, you have Ferguson, who

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Speaker 4: that's your mass, and he has played outstanding last year

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Speaker 4: and he's on the cusp of being one of the

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Speaker 4: top tight ends in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: But to me, that.

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Speaker 4: Group has got to play outstanding this year, not only

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Speaker 4: in receiving, but blocking as well. You got a young,

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Speaker 4: you know, left tackle out there. You're gonna need some

834
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: help chipping players out there and holding double teams. So

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00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: that tight end group, blocking wise, is gonna have to

836
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: be outstanding. And then we talk about receiving wise. Ferguson's

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00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: gonna have to make that lead you know, seven hundred

838
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: I believe was sixty one yards seven sixty one last year,

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00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: which is outstanding for a tight end. But I'm gonna

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00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 4: need a little bit more because I believe, like you said,

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Speaker 4: you know, last week, the tight end group, mainly Ferguson

842
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Speaker 4: is gonna be that number two option Cooks who you know,

843
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: still got speed out there. But but but he's an

844
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: aging receiver out there, and last year he made a

845
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: couple of plays here and there. But to me, you're

846
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: gonna need that solid number two option. That's gonna need

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00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: that security blanket, cause we all know what ceed's gonna represent.

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00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 4: He's gonna get his stats, he's gonna get his yards,

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Speaker 4: but teams are gonna make sure and they still might

850
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: not be able to stop them, but they gonna triple him,

851
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: quadruple team him out there. So you're gonna have to

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00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: have that number two option in that security blanket. And

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00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be this tight end group, mainly Ferguson.

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00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: You got Jalen Torbert out there, who's unproven, gonna get

855
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: a lot of one on ones out there, and then

856
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: you got Cooks out there, who's gonna get a lot

857
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: of one on ones, but he had a lot of

858
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: one one on ones last year and we still it

859
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: didn't see that crazy production. So to me, that tight

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00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: end group as a whole, whether it's blocking, receiving, they're

861
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 4: gonna have to step their game up, and I believe

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00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: they'll be able to cause Ferguson's a hell of a

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Speaker 4: tight end and you got some guys in there that

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Speaker 4: can block along the line of scrimmage as well.

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Speaker 3: So that's the group I'm all with.

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Speaker 4: And my expectations for them are being, you know, to

867
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: play their butts off this season. Now when you talk

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Speaker 4: about individual players, and you know, we keep piling on

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Speaker 4: my guy, but you know it has to be said

870
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: because it's the main problem when you talk about the

871
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: defensive side of the football, and that's the run game.

872
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 4: I expect Mozzi Smith not to take a massively. You know,

873
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: I don't expect him to go from what he was

874
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: last year to Aaron Donald or whatever the case may be.

875
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: But I need him to be that guy that they

876
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: drafted in the first round like when he was in college.

877
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: I need him to be that guy to go out there,

878
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: take on those double teams, be able to be a

879
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: solid contributor against the run, and keep those offensive linemen

880
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: off the second level. Let those guys do what they do.

881
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: And I know we said it at NAZIM about Mizzi

882
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: Smith being able to go in there, and it's tough because,

883
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, being a first round pick, I feel like

884
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: all the pressure is on him to stop the run,

885
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: like it's just him bass up. If he can't do it,

886
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: then this defense is done, which is not the case.

887
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: It takes you know, all eleven guys out there to

888
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 4: stop the run. But to me, that interior part has

889
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: got to be more solid than it was last year.

890
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: And I believe if he can take that leap with

891
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: the you know coaching under Zimmer, you know, you got

892
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: lin Vald Joseph, you got some veterans around you that

893
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: can teach you the game a little bit more and

894
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: the ins and outs and the little sneaky tricks that

895
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 4: those guys like to do on the inside.

896
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: Then I believe he can take that leap.

897
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: And the Cowboys are gonna need him to take that

898
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 4: leap if they want to go to where they want

899
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: to go, which we all understand where that is and

900
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: gain goal or go at the end of the season.

901
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: So those are about my group, tight end group gonna

902
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: take it, take that next step, you know, block in

903
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: being that number two solid, number two option and on

904
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: the defense side of the football, get my Mansi to take

905
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: take my get my boy Manzi to take that next league.

906
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: So what I'm gonna say about the the tight end

907
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: group is Jake Ferguson definitely, And Jake Ferguson is to me,

908
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: is a guy that can have a thousand yards as

909
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 2: a tight end. You haven't seen a thousand yard tight

910
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: end since since j wit right and and I'm I'm

911
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: gathering those numbers from the targets that Gallup left behind.

912
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a there's gonna be guys

913
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: that are can get more work than you saw before.

914
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: So a young guy like Tober, his targets are gonna increase.

915
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: Be Cooks, his targets are gonna increase. But there's also

916
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: gonna be more balls for you on that end. For

917
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson. So I think Jake Ferguson, Jake Gregsy, Jake

918
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: fergus is gonna get that gonna get that work.

919
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go.

920
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and look, man, amen to what you

921
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: said about Mazie. But my position group that I'm gonna

922
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: go with is gonna be this offensive line. Offensive line

923
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: and the reason the offensive line. Last season, the Dallas

924
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys finished in statistical top five in area area yards, touchdowns,

925
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: all that all right, uh game, you know the amount

926
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: of drive, the length of drives that they had, they

927
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: were one of the best in the NFL. And I

928
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: think you do that because you have a solid offensive line,

929
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: right and those things protection for Dak This is a

930
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: big year for DAK obviously, but if we are trying

931
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: to get rid of the ghosts of Green Bay, you

932
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: are going to need your offensive line to play up

933
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: to par. And we know we're already a little nervous

934
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: about this running back room. If you're gonna have any

935
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: success on the ground, it's gonna be because your offensive

936
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: line is the catalyst for that.

937
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: And so uh definitely going there. Now.

938
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: We did have a production meeting, so I didn't think

939
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: he was just gonna take the tight hands away from

940
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: me like that. Thank you for making me scramble berry.

941
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: Fast on your feet.

942
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: God, I'm gonna go o Sa Diggiza sego Mazi. I'm

943
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: gonna go Osa, I think. And here's my thing with Osa.

944
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 2: We have been giving Osa, I almost we're not giving

945
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: him a pass. But I think that for what we

946
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: imagine he is and what he actually is, it's not

947
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: going together right. I need Osa, Diggiezua to be a

948
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: presence on this defense.

949
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 3: And I understand. Look when sometimes when things are.

950
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: Going downhill, it's easy for the lady downhill altogether, it's

951
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: just not just them, It'll be me too.

952
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: We could do it as a unit.

953
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be left behind, right, But I

954
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: think OSA has to to take that step, and that's

955
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: like cliche, take the next step. What is that, you know,

956
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: be consistent game in and game out. Don't be a

957
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: guy that disappears after you've had you know, a sack

958
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: or two, or a tackle for a loss or any

959
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: of that. We need that consistency from a guy that

960
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: you still view as a young guy, third round draft pick.

961
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: He's been solid, he's giving you some good reps. But

962
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: I think it's the consistency piece for OSA that I'm

963
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: looking to man.

964
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 3: But we got it done. We did group.

965
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I forgot about one more group in there,

966
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna put the the corners that I mean

967
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: the secondary as a whole, but I'm gonna put the

968
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: corners in there as well.

969
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: Because if you know, Diggs.

970
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: Is able to come back and be that player that

971
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: we know he is, you know, defensive player of the year,

972
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 4: you know in the running for that type of type

973
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: of performance, if he and be that guy, and Bland

974
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: can continue to take the football away like he did,

975
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 4: if those guys can lock up on the outside, including

976
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: Jordan Luis, if those guys can lock up on the outside.

977
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 4: That'll allow Zimra to bring more guys in to help

978
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: on that run. So that's to me, you know, I

979
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: understand what we got on the outside. Those guys are special.

980
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: If they're able to continue to play special like that,

981
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: that'll allows Zimmer to put more pieces towards that run

982
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: defense and allow maybe that you know, that Cowboys defense

983
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: to I mean, if they can be top ten run

984
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: that's all they need talking about. Then this guy's a

985
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: limited So corners, they gonna be good on the outside. Though,

986
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 4: one player that you have, you know, worries at all about, Oh, that's.

987
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: The business gun. I mean, you know he's gonna Michael Parson.

988
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: You know he's going ball out, whether it's you know,

989
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: getting after the pass and making plays, whatever the case

990
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: may be.

991
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: I have no worries about him.

992
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: I would say Kendricks as well, because Kendricks is a

993
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: heck of a linebacker.

994
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: The only issue year eleven durability will he make.

995
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: It throughout the entire season, Because to me, that's gonna

996
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: be a quarterback of the defense. He's gonna get that

997
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: defensive line set up, he's gonna be the secondary knows

998
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 4: what they gotta do.

999
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: He understands Zimmer's defense. We can't lose that guy.

1000
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: That he's gotta be durable throughout the entire year.

1001
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: No.

1002
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: My one player then is gonna be uh, Brandon Oakcliffe Aubrey.

1003
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: From Cliff came from OAKLFT. He kick it for pleasant

1004
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: grown on some day. But Brandon Aubrey, that's the one

1005
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: guy I'm not worried about. Sixty six yarder in the preseason.

1006
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: That is banana's man. How how how big of a

1007
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: weapon is that that once you pass the fifties, it's

1008
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: basically an automatic three.

1009
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: That's no, that's that's crazy. Hey, that is ridiculous, man.

1010
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I'm like saying to myself, like, Brandon,

1011
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: come on, man, save some of this for the sixty

1012
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: six yards that is That is bananas man. But BC,

1013
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: we did it again. We'll be back next week. It's

1014
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: gonna be Players Lounge on Tuesday and Thursday of next week.

1015
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: But for Jazz, for Josh, for all the people responsible

1016
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: for getting this thing done, for Nicky Harrison that provides

1017
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: the reads.

1018
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 3: This is the players Now shout out the Rosie Rosie

1019
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 3: to see you on Tuesday.

1020
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