WEBVTT - A Mandi Money Live Coaching Call ft. Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this studio and a banana high.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? Because I'm doing great? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine? Yeah, yeah. Our relationship is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for each of us. You know, actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the opposite of what they say, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're drowning and someone comes to save you, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of push you down with you and stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, we're the opposite, will we When

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<v Speaker 1>we're together, we're both trying to lift each other up. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get into it, my lifting you

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<v Speaker 1>up sometimes does feel like taking you down, just because

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<v Speaker 1>her language.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm going to believe my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is just your way of loving me and

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<v Speaker 2>cure she believe her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a She gives it as good as she gets. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she gives it as good as she gets. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the Brown Ambition audience, why do I have Anna on

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<v Speaker 1>the show? I'm going to do a live kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do a live career coaching session with Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>but first I want to give some backstory. So Anna

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<v Speaker 1>is ten years younger than me. We ain't gotta give agentes.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's in her mid twenties, which means you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I am. Anyway, I used to baby said Anna

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<v Speaker 1>when she was just over the toll, twelve year old

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<v Speaker 1>peanut in my pocket. And now, well a decade later,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the pandemic. Right. I was obviously struggling. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a baby, a newborn, and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like balance that with working. Couldn't have childcare because everything

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<v Speaker 1>seemed too dangerous, so I was doing I was like breastfeeding,

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<v Speaker 1>having the baby at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was living back home and I in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just having like the worst mental everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing was working. I was just not happy, was very

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<v Speaker 2>like I was just like a mess. Then Nandy just

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<v Speaker 2>called me out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, standing Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Every Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so yeah, and you and I and

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<v Speaker 2>I just hated whenever, like someone has to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>them because I'm like, damn and that like, am I

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<v Speaker 2>that fragile? But you know, your love really did show through.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told you to get down the ups and

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<v Speaker 2>the downs more downs and ups. And then I think

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<v Speaker 2>we both asked ourselves the same questions, like you were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to warm me up. To the idea of moving,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I was like, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the state. I need to leave. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it just happened where we're like, okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. And then I said.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was so funny because it was around I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was plotting on you, but you were

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<v Speaker 1>planning on I was plotting on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We were trying to warm you up. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you have a husband, and I wasn't trying to huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, please the do well. You were living

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<v Speaker 1>with one of our what you'r aunt on your mom's side,

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<v Speaker 1>so not my auntie anyway, and you were I remember

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<v Speaker 1>forget this phone call when you called me.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, right now, I can't. You're twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're doing a lot of twenty you were at

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<v Speaker 1>the time anyway, right twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, twenty three, twenty two, yeah, twenty time.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time you were like doing what door

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<v Speaker 1>dash you had tried.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing Instacar. I was working on Amazon, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the warehouse home good, Oh my god. I was working.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working.

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<v Speaker 1>But you ain't never not worked, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't never know work, yes, startups, Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>all of.

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<v Speaker 1>That, okay, But at this time I remember because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I really I was already worried about you

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<v Speaker 1>because I could tell when I was talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>that you were struggling. That's why I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that in the spring before, I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk every Thursday at nine pm. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the calendar. We're doing it. Yeah, he did, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just wanted to like keep you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see you, so I just wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>at least talk to you so I could be sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're okay. So anyway, we that's all I'll say you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, I was like I fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>you and with Ariel and RJ and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like really fell in love, like, oh this

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<v Speaker 1>is my like my bonus family. Yeah, but you're not

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<v Speaker 1>always so close with cousins anyhow. So we had this connection.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell when you were off, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>we met all summer long and then this in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall, you were like, I gotta I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to join this. What were you going to sell kitchen knives?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like it's okay, I got a job, I'm gonna try.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna start my own business. I'm gonna sell knives.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a scam. It was a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an MLM. It was a multi level marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like one of those pyramid scheme type things

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<v Speaker 1>people will.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably there were so many that were hitting me up there.

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<v Speaker 2>You date, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Global, you want to make money overnight, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>own your work hours, you can work from home, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, because you want some value. Yeah, so they

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<v Speaker 1>got you. And thank god you told me because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, right now, we need to Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was in trouble. She's like absolutely, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So because you were going to buy like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of knives and have.

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<v Speaker 2>That, it just didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Were house and you're the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing the interview like on my on my

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<v Speaker 2>little tiny desk with like fifteen other people, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this? Yeah, and then yeah it

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<v Speaker 2>was Yeah, it was a hot mess dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had this conversation and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really struggling with this and I already was scheming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wouldn't it be perfect if Anna just could

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<v Speaker 1>be here, like here, I could keep an eye on her,

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<v Speaker 1>because somehow I'm working on this too. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>like protect and fix everybody. I don't have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time, I was like, I can keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on her because I'm really worried about her,

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<v Speaker 1>and also I think she would really enjoy watching my

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<v Speaker 1>child for me so that I could start my new job.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had the conversation and I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean and I was like, so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like what you really need is like you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>great helping a family who just you know, was working

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<v Speaker 1>really hard and just had trouble finding childcare during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, and you were like, yeah, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, and said do you know anybody like

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<v Speaker 1>that that you can think of? And your little voice

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<v Speaker 1>well like you, I'm like, yeah, thank you for offering.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That was the funniest conversation. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was plotting on you. I was like, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>how's your upstairs bedroom looking like it's vacant?

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<v Speaker 1>It saved both of our lives? No, for real, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it did?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Did?

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<v Speaker 1>It did?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So cut to and when you moved in. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>again because I have a bit of a like fixer personality,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you were you're not you were not

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<v Speaker 1>finished with like college, your degree, no job and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, also, while you were here, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's have some personal finance conversations. Let's you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>untangle you from that uncle over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Anna's yeah, you talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>that where you were in terms of like you were

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yeah, you were like twenty three. But also you were,

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<v Speaker 1>like with your relationship with your father, not financially free.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, Like I just grew up of he hands

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<v Speaker 2>me money and then I deal with it. So whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I had like my financial struggles, he would always have

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<v Speaker 2>like a string attached to whatever dollar is behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just very exhausted and tire trying to

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<v Speaker 2>chase what he's giving me. And then I have to

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<v Speaker 2>this mental load that I had to pay him for

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<v Speaker 2>the price of whatever amount of dollars. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when I moved to you, he cut me off financially

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<v Speaker 2>and this owed me and all this extra stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mental health was was like down was down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And can you be specific when you say you had

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<v Speaker 1>to pay him for the money, like what were the

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<v Speaker 1>strings attached?

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<v Speaker 2>If it'd just be his controlling ways when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to finances, like if I maybe had an attitude he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well I do X y Z for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to do this to me after I

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<v Speaker 2>gave you this amount of money for school or just

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<v Speaker 2>like just being his daughter, just asking for money here

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<v Speaker 2>and there. It's always like an issue or problem. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's whenever I just I want to stop asking him

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<v Speaker 2>for money completely. So that's why I was working those

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<v Speaker 2>those numerous jobs just to get myself together. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my mental health is just taking a toll

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, all the finances that had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that with him and myself because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little pricey. I noticed he was spoiled.

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<v Speaker 1>For a price. But yeah, and also it was to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where he it was like, i'll pay for school,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got to study what I think is a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Degree, yes, right, yeah, yeah totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So that level of control.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the thing about me, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do well with control like that, Like I I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just stop everything if I don't. I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you should live your life for your parents, and

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that the hard way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you were and I mean, like it was so

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking to see, I mean how tough it was for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are the biggest changes that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened since you moved in with me? For those who

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<v Speaker 1>are watching on YouTube, you might be able to note

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<v Speaker 1>the most significant change. We're not in the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not. Why I was able to move out.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lovely roommate, She's great. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so nice to buy things with money that I

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<v Speaker 2>worked hard for and earned. And I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the hard work really did pay off. And I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the hard work. What have you accomplished. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>sit with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl, Okay, okay, I'm just give me over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely my mental health, for sure. I received so much

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<v Speaker 2>healing from the past, like year, two years, almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Three three, yeah, I mean three years.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost the big three. But yeah, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>huge turnout from my mental health about you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>I feel about myself boundaries. That was a huge thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to develop. I didn't have any like

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<v Speaker 2>especially with my parents whatever they said when I didn't care,

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<v Speaker 2>like they didn't care if I didn't feel comfortable. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care if I didn't feel comfortable. I just did

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<v Speaker 2>what I was told. So whenever I was disowned, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, if I'm really disowned, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do what I what I please and in a respectful way.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me a long devastated.

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<v Speaker 2>I was heartbroken. Yeah, and then you know therapy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What, but listen for those who are But did he

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<v Speaker 1>actually was?

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<v Speaker 2>It lasted three I think it lasted three months. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he said how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was, So, you're like, yeah, try

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<v Speaker 1>to survive without this cute face.

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<v Speaker 2>That you had daughter you got you can never get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of me. I got. I got off of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't need a car anymore. He owned the car.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I moved here, he sold my car

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's fine, I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he was more upset that I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had it was he did a tantrum.

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<v Speaker 2>He did, and then I think he hit you up

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<v Speaker 2>and was very very angry towards you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so then let's move into the career and finance side.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of what kind of like strides have you made?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you came here in no full time job, no

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<v Speaker 1>job period, it's not the knives thing, and no money

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<v Speaker 1>of your own, So like, when did you start taking

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<v Speaker 1>those strides? What are the big accomplishments you've made?

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<v Speaker 2>I think at that time, whenever I was hoping out

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, your lovely son, my godson. I was

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<v Speaker 2>really ready to just start working again to make money

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, to move out, to save to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>spend things on myself, to give back to you guys

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<v Speaker 2>with whatever is needed, you know. And then I found

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<v Speaker 2>a job doing executive assistant work for this unknown fashion

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<v Speaker 2>and jewelry company. That was the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me touch on that later. But you needed a

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<v Speaker 1>like a non part time like a retail You wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wanted full time. I wanted to hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ground running.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you were like, what's your degree in? What?

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<v Speaker 2>Healthcare administration? Yeah? Healthare administration.

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<v Speaker 1>We got you a LinkedIn page, right, remember that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to tell y'all, Anna is a boomer in

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<v Speaker 1>a generation Z suit body like you and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, here's your A, a r P card, here's

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<v Speaker 1>your handicap.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up sheltered. I grew up sheltered. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this when she's more gen z

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<v Speaker 2>than me. I just know the terms, but she knows

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<v Speaker 2>like the logistics, she knows the you know technology.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you got a LinkedIn page. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a presence. So we put some job experience there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we said that you were my assistant. Don't ever ask

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<v Speaker 1>me for a reference because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I was dealing with so much ments like, yeah, be

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<v Speaker 2>my assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like what So.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just so overwhelmed, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not what you said slack? I said, what is slack?

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<v Speaker 1>She couldn't be my idea?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't I know, I know to do my email?

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<v Speaker 1>She was, she said, what is slack? I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>just you focus on the babies. I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 1>title my admin. Anyway, but you got a job assisting,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from but that point is you had something

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<v Speaker 1>on your resume, and then from there then you got

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<v Speaker 1>the job. You did like a lot more well, actually

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<v Speaker 1>that job was so toxic that you quit?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was, yeah, it was so Me and

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<v Speaker 2>my roommate we worked at the same job before, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she quit a little bit before me. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just such a toxic work environment and nothing was getting done,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I want to put my efforts

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<v Speaker 2>into something else that would appreciate me. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I quit, I shouldn't have done that. That was

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<v Speaker 2>not smart.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>But I did because like I was, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a job for like maybe a month when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I was applying to a to z jobs more like

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<v Speaker 2>to the day I woke up to like at night,

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<v Speaker 2>I was applying. Interviews were happening, but they weren't good

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<v Speaker 2>enough or it just it wasn't the right fit. And

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<v Speaker 2>then my current dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Scam kind of like LinkedIn messages.

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<v Speaker 2>What if people do that as like people are like strong.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going all the way to Manhattan to find out

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, what was the thing where they sent

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<v Speaker 1>you home with a big textbook, like a real estate textbook.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted you I honestly wanted to forget that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and for you to bring that up is very triggering.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, but you went through it, and honestly

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<v Speaker 1>a month doesn't see that. But I'm interested. You said

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bad idea to quit. Yes it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I'm not going to lie I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little worried. I'm like, yes you were,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was trying to let you do your own thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And honestly, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mistake because a couple months later you

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<v Speaker 1>got the job in the SPA, right, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>found that on LinkedIn? Is that right or indeed or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them one indeed, and it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>looks sketchy applying for it, but I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what everything was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Yes, it hadn't opened yet. It was a news,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a break.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the it was being built as I

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<v Speaker 2>was applying. So whenever I got the job, interview OV

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, can I see the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like construction walls. There was wood exposed, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, yeah, this is it. I said, I see

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<v Speaker 2>the potential. And I think after the interview went well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you told me to write a letter to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, show my appreciation and at first.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember now, I remember I dropped you off to

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<v Speaker 1>give them the thank you note.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did, and I think it was like an

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a nice little card. It was yellow.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a yellow flower. Yellow's your your brand,

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<v Speaker 2>I see, you know. Yeah, And then I got the

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<v Speaker 2>call that I got the job. And I was so ecstatic.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you, I was struggling financially. I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was living off my savings, like I think one

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<v Speaker 2>time I didn't have enough for two pays if I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go into my I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I started to ask you to pay rent

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<v Speaker 1>because I was fring to get you a little ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the real world. I was going to do that

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<v Speaker 1>thing where you just put the money aside and give

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<v Speaker 1>it back to you at the end of Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you quit. And I was like, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>the renting you.

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<v Speaker 2>Really got to stop. But no, I felt like such

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<v Speaker 2>a loser because I was like, why would I do

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<v Speaker 2>that with that like a plan B. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like I was so scared and so like eager

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<v Speaker 2>to know, like what's next, what's the next move? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what can you do? And then you know, I got

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<v Speaker 2>the I got the call I got the job, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, I can relax a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm gonna we're gonna take a quick break, but

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<v Speaker 1>before we do, I want to just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>round out that phase because I feel like for you

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<v Speaker 1>it was about Listen, your dad chose your major, right,

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare admin, which isn't a bad major. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a hot field. It's a it's on the cover up,

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<v Speaker 1>on the come up, and you got to you still

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<v Speaker 1>kept up, like with your studies virtually while you were

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<v Speaker 1>working full time. But at the same time, you knew

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to like work in a hospital, like

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<v Speaker 1>just like at a desk, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did have this interest in beauty and care

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<v Speaker 1>which I feel like is something that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a controlling dad and you're like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to work in the spa beauty industry and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that. It's woman's stuff. It can't be good,

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be lucrative police but it made it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the whenever I'm helping someone and coaching them through

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<v Speaker 1>like a pivot or trying to figure out how do

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<v Speaker 1>I make a career that I love out of a

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<v Speaker 1>couple out of like the job history that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't love. And it's like not exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>there's not like a lateral like a connection, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but for you, there's enough there, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>admin side and healthcare and spas med spas especially, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that different people aren't using insurance cushit call for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, no, right, but and it like it

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<v Speaker 1>worked for you and it has been working for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But Okay, I'm gonna leave it there. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break and then we're going to come back

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to talk about what's next for you

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<v Speaker 1>because you at the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, Va family are back, and my cousin Anna Banana,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sorry Anna, Victoria Woodruff and Victoria such a

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<v Speaker 1>whole name out there. So you've been in this job

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<v Speaker 1>for over a year now, and obviously it's a stepping stone,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of like front of house in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the MET'SPA space. We're interfacing with customers and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But like, so what do you want for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself now that we have like the little we have

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<v Speaker 1>like this ember you know this, like you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>like building a fire. You've struck this ember now and

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<v Speaker 1>your job, like your career is starting to kindle, it's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to smoke. You know, we got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a flame. Now it's about how can we keep

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<v Speaker 1>building that flame. And even though you have a job now,

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy there. It's great, that's great. I'm always talking

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<v Speaker 1>to women about never getting too comfortable and always sort

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<v Speaker 1>of keeping your eye on the next opportunity and what

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to look like for you. So talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit forget him your cousin and more

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<v Speaker 1>of like a coach. What do you want next?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, No, I want to move up in the

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<v Speaker 2>SPA space. I realize I like to do the operations

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<v Speaker 2>side of it. You know, I'm great speaking to people,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I have more fun, but I find

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyment and doing like the operation side. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the ordering getting things done. There's conflict with schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>there's conflict with the guests. Baby, I'm very good at that,

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<v Speaker 2>very strategic managing people. To me, I really do find

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it with that, and I feel like the people

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<v Speaker 2>that I do work with, they feel confident or comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>enough with me to tell them their issues and we

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<v Speaker 2>can address it, you know, as me to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So together. One of the things we did do that

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<v Speaker 1>My first thing was when you came you guys, actually

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<v Speaker 1>the reason you're here is because you came over what

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<v Speaker 1>was it last week? Week before? It was last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let's just want your day off.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get together, let's sit down and talk about what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first thing you wanted to do was your resume, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, how to how to hold up

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<v Speaker 1>before we do the resume. It's really important to know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want so you can tailor your resume, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to a job. And I feel like we spent that

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me that afternoon on LinkedIn stalking people in the

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<v Speaker 1>SPA industry and trying to figure out what are some

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<v Speaker 1>job titles that sound juicy, even if they are like

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<v Speaker 1>a few levels beyond what you could be doing now,

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<v Speaker 1>just like have like a finish line or have a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something that you can work toward. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot about the types of jobs like

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<v Speaker 1>director of operations, SPA manager, SPA director director.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those are like the main three that I saw,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's like a lot of spot owners obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever hear back? I think you sent some

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<v Speaker 1>DMS like cold to some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did. I think if you are not message me,

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<v Speaker 2>but they followed me back or what do they call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Connected with?

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<v Speaker 2>You were connected? Connected? LinkedIn? Connected? That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to twist your arm to get a photo

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<v Speaker 1>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I because I hate that photo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a gorgeous photo. Y'all. Go connect with Anna

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<v Speaker 1>and Victoria Woodruff on LinkedIn if you're in the spot

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<v Speaker 1>industry med spot and listening, Gone and there. She only

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<v Speaker 1>has twenty two connections, y'all. She's lonely.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you called me out like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're so pretty in this picture? I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I took it. I told her she had two years

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<v Speaker 1>to take a better one. I took this headshot back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one. I said, you had two three

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<v Speaker 1>years to pick a better headshot, and you don't have one,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what you're gonna do. I'm stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>the image upload and when you get a better one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can fix it. But done is better than perfect. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what and if people are listening on like pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought pictures were bad, especially if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>woman of color, people can like, you know, have bias

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>against you. But I do believe in having a photo

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<v Speaker 1>on LinkedIn as a hiring manager. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a well rounded image and let's just be let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep it one hundred. Anna, you're going to be in

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the Beauty and MEDSPA space show. You're cute, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care how like in politically unpolitically corrected is two

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:32.120
<v Speaker 1>or politically incorrect. It is to talk about the impact

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of like your look and your presentation. It really matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that people who were reviewing LinkedIn profiles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying put it in your resume, not all

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<v Speaker 1>about that, but at least for LinkedIn, like show that

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<v Speaker 1>you know you are well presented, that you present yourself

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<v Speaker 1>well because I do believe in your industry, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that image is probably going to matter. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give it one hundred. Is that how you feel it?

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<v Speaker 2>Me is correct? You're correct.

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:02.959
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to just say I'm correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it's one hundred percent true. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're working or you are coming into a spa and

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 2>you want to look a certain way. When don't you

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>want this staff to look, you know, put together. They

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<v Speaker 2>look like they take care of themselves. That's just what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be doing your crystals in your boobs and

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>where you be putting those crystals, the crevices and the

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>belly button. It's to live here. Just be packages of

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<v Speaker 1>rocks coming to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys would just call it rocks. It's like they're crystals.

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>There's another envelope of rocks for you and listen, shove

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it in your It was part of my healing journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I still have them.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you charging charging in the moonlight.

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<v Speaker 2>They're charging.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you tell moon water one time? She drank moonwater.

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a full moon. Put some water on the deck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah, and it was delicious. It was

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>very refreshing. The next day it so.

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<v Speaker 1>On your LinkedIn. Okay, we got you a photo. You

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<v Speaker 1>have your experience on there. You started to connect with people,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. You need to be connected. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is my advice for anyone listening to Even if you

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<v Speaker 1>and right now, Anna, you only know the people who

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<v Speaker 1>work where you work, right but the industry is so big,

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how can you get connected to more people

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>in your space? So the work that we did that day,

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<v Speaker 1>it may feel like not that big of a deal.

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But even if someone sees your name on LinkedIn, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't connect with you, even if they well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't, but even if they don't respond to

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<v Speaker 1>your DM, but they do connect to you or follow

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>you whatever, you're going to show up in their feed.

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 1>And I've learned you're going to show up in their

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<v Speaker 1>feed a lot for two weeks after they connect with you.

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>So once you start adding people like start, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say sharing something on LinkedIn, it doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>like here are my thoughts on the met's boss base,

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<v Speaker 1>but share an article about the industry, share an article

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<v Speaker 1>that you find interesting, or follow like thought leaders in

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>your space. There's got to be like some I know

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>there's so many like influencers, but also there's probably some

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 1>great names in the business of the MEDSPA industry that

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<v Speaker 1>you could be following so that you can really like

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I want you to be nerdy. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be like in on the MEDSPAT space. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be passionate about it. That is what's gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you that extra something special when you go into an interview.

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>If you show up and you're just like, here's my experience,

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to be Yeah, everyone's got a great resume.

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>This job market it's tough, and it's tough in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that it's for me, it's normal, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>how a job market I feel like should be. It

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>was Craig Krai back in twenty twenty one. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>hiring right, and you could get a job like that.

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>But now it's more like corrected in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>there are good jobs out there, but there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good candidates and it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Competition and is insane exactly On LinkedIn, I think for

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<v Speaker 2>certain jobs, I saw there was like three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two app like applications for that one job, and

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, it's just brutal. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the dating pool.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is where you start to differentiate yourself with strategy.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So one thing is when you see hundreds of people

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>have applied, you can add your resume to the mix.

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But if you're not like a shoe in, like a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect resume, perfect candidate, like for the role when you

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<v Speaker 1>really want it. I feel like less is more when

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it comes to applying right now, like really center in

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>or home in on jobs that you want, jobs that

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>are cool, not just any old job, And that may

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>mean waiting longer to find the job. You're not so senior,

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>like you're you know your entry level right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next step up for you. We're hoping to get

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you on a path to like maybe assistant SPA manager

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>or at a startup SPA, maybe a maybe straight two

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>SPA manager or whatever, but somewhere on the back the

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<v Speaker 1>back of office, back office whatever, back off the oup side.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>But those types of roles are fewer and further between,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and because they're juicier, right, they probably pay more you

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>want a salary and all that, Like, they're going to

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>have more competition. So that's why I'm like last week

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<v Speaker 1>when you were here, I was asking I was impressed

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<v Speaker 1>because you knew some names of other spas in the

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>industry and that, But I want more. I think you

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>should really like get more into the industry. What could

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that look like? What are some ways you could start

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>investing more and learning about the men's SPA space and

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>getting in networking opportunities, so you can meet other people

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of spa conventions. There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's plenty plenty in the city. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to I forgot the name of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I think it's French. But the biologic rushes

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<v Speaker 2>they have, how do you say that it's French? So

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like biolog what's here?

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>But I call it br BR Hey, I I that's

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the fancy brand. I'd gotten the free samples when I

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>come to your spa.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that's a brand. They have a lot of

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>conventions or just trainings and then we peop so they

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>have trainings like that and then they come to the spa.

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>But like there's a there's a lot in the city.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>There's so many. The beauty field or space in New

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>York City alone is like its huge. So just going

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<v Speaker 2>there and meeting people, I think that's the next step

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that I want to take, because I want to take

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this seriously, Like I found my niche and something that

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy love. I talk about it all the time,

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I'm passionate about beauty, not towards myself,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 2>but other people. I feel like everyone's to feel themselves

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>all right.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>So but here's one thing that I do on my

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>coaching calls. I will sit here and watch you until

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you do a thing that maybe is a little thing

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that you know you haven't done yet, but you just

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>need someone to be an accountability partner. I want you to.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to search for like an event that you

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>could sign up for right now, and I'm gonna I

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>know you're on your phone, you have your laptop next

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to you. No, okay, So I just literally googled MENSPA

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>events New York and there's a whole list. March third,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the International Aesthetics, Cosmetics and SPA Conference in New York.

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's not the only one. There's like an open house,

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a blueprint for success and esthetics. I think some

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of these will probably target people who want to work

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>as an esthetician, but you want to focus on where

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>are some opportunities to be in a room with the

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<v Speaker 1>ops people, people who are like on the business side

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>of SPA. I really feel like that's going to help

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>set you apart. I think in like the you know,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the cosmetics and Men's Boss kind of space, I think

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>people think first of the worker bees who are doing

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the services and all that. That's fine, but there's not

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>much room for growth there unless you're really spectacular at

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>your job. You bring in your own clientele, you know,

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you become valuable that way, and your you know, in

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>your in your space, you need to sort of get

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you have more of a you know, career trajectory, you know,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>but you need people who can I think mentor you

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>show you the ropes, you know, challenge you get you

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>into a job where it feels like a big shoes

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>for you to fill, and that's how you start to

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>learn and grow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to save that event.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>No, we're not going to save it. You're in a

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<v Speaker 1>register and you're gonna ask your job to pay for it.

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? No?

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I did not.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bossy, but yeah, So this is a

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>type of event that I feel like your job should

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>pay for. Your job is a big brand, they got money.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you should make your case like, hey, I

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>really want to like, you know, get some new ideas

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>for the spot. I want to get some ideas for

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just show you can show them the website.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>You can make a little you know, write an email

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and just make a case for why they should cover

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>your attendance, and uh, pitch it. I want to see

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>how much it is first recruiting one oh one, how

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<v Speaker 1>to attract, engage, and retain a great team. Ooh, I

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>love this workshop. Not because you're gonna don't think of

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should think of doing workshops. Just

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>based on what you want out of your career. Do

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it based on who's going to be in the room.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>If you go to a recruiting workshop, who's going to

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>be there. Recruiters, managers need to recruit people, people who

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>are pops possibly hiring right now. Yes, you need to

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>be in that room, baby girl, I feel like I'm

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>like the Toddler and Tierra stage mom right now. Smile, sweetie,

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like doing the choreo in the in the in the wings. Okay,

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>are you on the exhibition page yet?

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>The exhibition page, like the workshops page where you can

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<v Speaker 3>pick No.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still registering. There's so many mercy listen woman, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean my sessions are usually forty five minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>this is way over an hour already, so you need

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to fire in the belly. You're going to be an admin,

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you need to be like type in ninety nine words

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<v Speaker 1>per minute. What are you like reading the questions carefully?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. Don't just think about you, think

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<v Speaker 1>about like who could be in the room like that?

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Eleven The eleven forty five panel discover the path to

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<v Speaker 1>Empowered Leadership business Management. That could be great for meeting

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>people who are in leadership positions and also, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>start putting yourself in the space where you want to

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>become a leader.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Right. Maximizing performance with your current SPA software. Oof, the

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 2>software needs help?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, the software one's going to be good, you know what,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>because there's going to be full of SPA edmins. Anna,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go a lot? Is exciting. Which one were

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you saying, that's the one that you mentioned three fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to four thirty Maximizing performance with your SPA software. Mm hmm, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's perfect because you need to be nerdy about shit

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't want to be nerdy about. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to separate you. I'm really excited. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way that I love to end a coaching session,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it is a little painful for me to

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<v Speaker 1>sit here breathing while you breathe and type things into

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<v Speaker 1>the internet and sign up for a thing because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it sounds simple. But were you planning to sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for this conference today?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like it's like you've taken a big step and

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<v Speaker 1>these are like I'm so I think we got so

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<v Speaker 1>lucky with the timing because this is an few months.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly what you need. Like it's almost even

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<v Speaker 1>more important than I mean, you're going to finish that

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare degree, health care admin degree. This is the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just cost sleep, That's all I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're paying your own way one yes, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Proud of you mm hmm. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of education that it's going to specialize you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're in like a generic healthcare admin program, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like the continuing education where you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find your niche.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I think if I'm a niche and like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we use it, we'll take advantage of it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like thinking, I'm gonna definitely put this one on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so excited for you. Are you excited? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I the only one?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just a tabit hungry, this will say,

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<v Speaker 2>go so am I I.

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<v Speaker 1>Sent I sent you home with chili in a box

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<v Speaker 1>of corn bread, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even have time to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I'm glad you said, because you probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>been belching on the show. I would that time that

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<v Speaker 1>chially got a kick. Okay, but when you come over,

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<v Speaker 1>do I not feed you?

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<v Speaker 2>You feed me and you somehow like I always have

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<v Speaker 2>something packed on my way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on Brown Ambition was.

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<v Speaker 2>A pleasure, babes. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure what we were going to accomplish, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like we took the first up last

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<v Speaker 1>week in terms of like getting you more comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn and connecting with folks. And now I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing the thing that is so you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that so many especially women, know that they probably

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing but aren't doing it, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>why they're staying stuck. And it's actually shoving yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms like buying your way in getting an invite, whatever,

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in the rooms where opportunity can happen. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>create so much of like the job search and your

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<v Speaker 1>career it's as much a strategy as it is putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in a position where exciting opportunities can happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? Like, it's hard to describe, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's an element of I don't know what the exact

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to be, but if I put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in this room, things can happen. Things.

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<v Speaker 2>May you have to make it happen. To make it happier.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, you got to put yourself in that space, and

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<v Speaker 1>it sure ain't going to happen if you just stay

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<v Speaker 1>at the front desk at the spa you're at now

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<v Speaker 1>and never branch out and sort of dip a toe

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<v Speaker 1>into the wider industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm very proud. I'm so proud of you. You.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you a year since moving ou you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>be a year in your new apartment. You got your

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<v Speaker 1>own bills paid, yo, you got savings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? How that credit score looking? It's good? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm super happy for you on your journey. You're

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<v Speaker 1>doing just so amazing. Do you feel proud of yourself, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel it like I have done a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you judge itself harshly?

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<v Speaker 2>I judge yourself harshly, like I see the difference of

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<v Speaker 2>how I was like two years ago, but like at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I was like, we gotta keep going. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to. I really want to put myself on the

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<v Speaker 2>back and be like you did it. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>in a transition, but I am very happy of how

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<v Speaker 2>far I come along.

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<v Speaker 1>Just walking through your story with you, it just reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me you've come so far. Hunt like, you've come so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and I just need to get you to that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get you to the next, the next

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<v Speaker 1>once you get this, I feel like the next role

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be so pivotable, pivotable, pivotal once you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the right title and like more of a

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<v Speaker 1>high higher level, more the admin side. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an easy path, not an easy path, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a path that you want to be on,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nowhere, there's no way you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to have that great career if you just like

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<v Speaker 1>get on this next sort of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get on the train.

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<v Speaker 1>You're Oh, You're so great though, and I'm so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you and I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you too.